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Providence,UT,

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Apr 18, 2008

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Age Division Winner

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no heart attack yet

 

 

Short-Term Running Goals:

turn 50 and have a colonoscopy done


Long-Term Running Goals:

avoid open heart surgery

Personal:

I am a 50 year old biochemistry professor at Utah State University in Logan.

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Mizuno Precision 9 Lifetime Miles: 255.80
Saucony Triumph 5 Lifetime Miles: 97.70
Vibram Five Finger Sprints Lifetime Miles: 242.26
Wave Rider 11 Lifetime Miles: 342.95
Mizuno Wave Ronin Lifetime Miles: 183.31
Brooks T5 Lifetime Miles: 107.40
NB 790 Pair 3 Lifetime Miles: 244.65
Hoka Bondi B Lifetime Miles: 758.08
Hyperspeed 3 Pair 3 Lifetime Miles: 74.03
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Kinvara 2 Lifetime Miles: 53.52
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
1525.26178.2080.1085.821869.38
Asics Nimbus Miles: 27.85Mizuno Wave Rider 10 Miles: 180.69Saucony Triumph Miles: 186.22Mizuno Wave Precision Miles: 66.70NB 1062 Pair 1 Miles: 124.50Saucony Triumph 5 Miles: 39.30Mizuno Precision 9 Miles: 82.20Asics Speedstar Miles: 91.40Montrail Hardrock Miles: 7.00Vibram Five Finger Sprints Miles: 155.41NB 790 Miles: 285.09Brooks T4 Miles: 132.84Asics Gel Hyperspeed Miles: 108.85NB 790 Pair 2 Miles: 96.60Wave Rider 11 Miles: 105.40Mizuno Wave Ronin Miles: 36.20
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.100.000.000.007.10

Asics Nimbus Miles: 7.10
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
13.750.000.000.0013.75

half day skiing at the beav.

then thrashed out an ugly 13.75 miles as the temperature dropped and the roads iced over.

ready to go back to california.


Asics Nimbus Miles: 13.75
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.000.000.000.007.00

7 @ 7:37, 8 degrees

Asics Nimbus Miles: 7.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.004.000.000.008.00

OK, this weather is getting old, and I have only been back a few days.

4 miles slow outside in the snow, ice and cold, and four miles at tempo pace 6:34 on the indoor track. 32 miserable laps. The only thing worse than a 220 yard indoor track is a treadmill, and if I have to resort to that, then forget it. My trusty sportcount ring finger lap timer works good for keeping track of laps and splits, and all I have to do is try to hit 49 seconds for each lap. Thats my trusty sportcount on my finger in my picture at left in Boston in 2007. If anyone is reading... my quantcast numbers are dropping faster than the stock market... the rooster's blog must be pretty boring :-(



Mizuno Wave Rider 10 Miles: 8.00
Comments
From paul on Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 19:37:29

Do you know if the indoor track is open to alumni? Do I need an ID card or anything?

From Jon on Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 19:52:14

Count me, quantcast!

If it makes you feel better, my number has dropped, too.

From Jon on Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 19:52:35

By the way, what do you use the sportcount ring for in a marathon?

From redrooster on Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 20:34:59

Jon, thanks for checking my blog and getting my numbers up. of course you can see YOUR blog is on MY favorites list...

At Boston, my GPS watch started going on the fritz (I had an old junky timex before getting my forerunner) , so I used the sportcount to get my mile splits. It didn't help me much though as the weather took me down at about mile 18, and I finished in 3:13. Next year I will slay the boston beast!!

From Jon on Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 21:43:35

Don't worry, all Logan runners get on my favorites list... after I run with them once. So hopefully soon.

By the way, how did you like the Bolder Boulder? I am from Colorado originally so ran that race 6 or so times.

From redrooster on Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 22:06:11

Jon, my brother lives in Boulder so I take my family to Boulder every memorial day for the creek festival and to run the BB. I think it is a great and fun race. I always run out of the AA wave since I usually am between 38 and 39 minutes but this year finally qualified for "A" by running 38 flat, but probably won't run BB this year if I do the Ogden marathon May 16. This last year I finished 4th out of 46 year olds which I was happy with!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.000.000.000.007.00

USU to green canyon. slow.

Mizuno Wave Rider 10 Miles: 7.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.000.000.000.0010.00

10 miles @ 7:36 with one altercation, running in North Logan on 1600 east , on the rich people bench, middle of nowhere, road wide open, no sidewalks, I am as far as i can get on the side without going into the slush, minding my own business, and some jerk driver (not a kid) in a pickup (a nice expensive one) decides to send me a message by ripping by me a few inches to my side even though the road is wide open in both directions. So I make a gesture to move out (not obscene), he stops, and then things heat up. Running deaf is hard enough without jerk drivers picking fights with you. Anyway I couldn't hear what this guy was yelling at me which is one of the frustrations of running deaf but I didn't care, I just unleashed a verbal barrage and held my ground until he drove off, up a side road to his mcmansion. I have little tolerance for these types anymore. 99% of the drivers in Logan are friendly and courteous, but the 1% can be very dangerous. I guess I could try to run with my cochlear implant in but it is not easy with slippage, sweat getting on the receiver, etc. Well, I feel bad now for losing my cool, I should have been mature enough to keep myself under control and just memorized his license plate and reported him, but since losing my hearing I get very very frustrated when running and am provoked like this. Next time I will try to keep my cool.


 

Mizuno Wave Rider 10 Miles: 10.00
Comments
From JD on Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 22:16:59

When I encounter drivers like that I wonder about the state of their souls...really, how lost is a person who chooses to increase the risk of maiming or killing another human when they have a clear choice to take a safer course but don't? Other times I just lose it, and it feels good!

Way to run through these tough winter conditions. I hope to get back out on the roads tommorrow after three days in a row on the treadmill.

Have a good one.

From redrooster on Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 22:32:03

JD, thanks for the kind comment, makes me feel better!! You have given me a great perspective on these types.

Hope to meet up with you at a race or something, good luck on the roads tomorrow! Scott

From Jon on Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 22:40:39

Next time, just pelt him with iceballs!

From redrooster on Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 22:44:05

can I just bring you along on my next run as my muscle?

From paul on Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 14:44:30

I have drivers do that with increasing frequency. It's very frustrating.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.000.000.000.006.00

6 miles slow, with 6 strides, and no fights.

Mizuno Wave Rider 10 Miles: 6.00
Comments
From Snoqualmie on Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 00:18:25

Good grief! I just read yesterday's post. Wow. What a jerk! He nearly runs you off the road, but you're supposed to... what? be polite about it? It's outrageous and you should have no regrets. You stood up to a bully. Just a few days ago, I had a car come *across* the road (I was on the opposite side, running against the non-existent traffic) to express his brute nature and scare me by driving fast and close. (In other words, he had to drive on the wrong side of the road to enforce his twisted sense of justice.) Barbarians.

From redrooster on Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 01:49:35

wow, your experience beats mine- it's amazing the animosity some drivers have for us poor runners. we're a little outmatched in terms of damage that can be done if they do decide to hit us... I was running a 10K with a friend a few years ago and a truck purposefully swerved over and hit him with his mirror. I didn't see it happen as I was separated so couldn't do anything, and he was too stunned to react, I wish we had gotten his plates and filed charges.

Sounds like you are drowning up there in the pacific northwest, what a mess. But your mileage is awesome! Already up to 19 miles, I am just trying to get to 14-15. The Eugene marathon sounds fun. I am shooting for Ogden, Utah but still want to do Newport sometime, probably with my friend who teaches at Linfield college in Mcminnville Oregon-he runs that sometimes.

Well, thanks for the kind words and be careful on those flooded roads! Scott

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
14.000.000.000.0014.00

14 @ 7:46

Saucony Triumph Miles: 14.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.000.000.000.007.00

Mizuno Wave Rider 10 Miles: 7.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.004.800.000.008.80

2 miles @ 7:33, 4.8 miles @ 6:33, 2 miles @ something easy

Mizuno Wave Rider 10 Miles: 8.80
Comments
From Jon on Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 22:32:04

Did you get the email about runs this week? Thur, Fri night, plus Sat morning.

From redrooster on Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 23:58:46

oops, haven't checked my yahoo mail in a few days... let me go check and reply!! thanks!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.100.000.000.007.10

Saucony Triumph Miles: 7.10
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.000.000.000.007.00

7 miles @ 7:30 on the indoor track while dodging members of a PE class that decided the track is a good place to, walk, sit, hang out and socialize. 

Mizuno Wave Rider 10 Miles: 7.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
14.000.000.000.0014.00

air quality is "red", so I went up Logan canyon above the inversion and ran from RH fork to about 3/4 miles past rick springs. Not smart- too many blind curves, too steep, too many trucks and cars, not an area intended to be run on, at least in the winter. Should have gone up to franklin basin area. Oh well. 7:58 up, 7:13 back down. Will stay out of that stretch from now on.

 

Saucony Triumph Miles: 14.00
Comments
From Metcalf Running on Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 19:02:27

Even with all the dodge of cars and steep are, you had a great pace!!

From Jon on Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 13:54:16

You sure are dedicated to drive all the way up the canyon just to avoid red air.

From redrooster on Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 19:19:21

Yeah, mostly anal retentive, being a biochemist I fixate on what those little pm 2.5 particles are doing to our lungs and being OCD can't bring myself to run in this soup...

Are you running Ogden? Should I take a shot at it? I will be up for some long runs and training sessions once the air clears out! Scott

From Jon on Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 19:23:43

Baring injury, I'm doing Ogden. Have you done it? I enjoyed it last week.

From redrooster on Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 19:46:18

Last week? Did I miss it? you mean last year right?

No, I have only done two marathons, TOU2006 and Boston2007, neither to the level I want to. So I thought I would take a shot at Ogden as it is easier for me to train for spring than fall... would be nice to get a group from Logan to go down. Of course, I will be way behind you guys, but let's say you spot me two minutes for each year of age difference as an equalizer...

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.000.000.000.008.00

LC, where it opens up below Bunch Grass to below Franklin Basin. 7:23 average up and down

Saucony Triumph Miles: 8.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.005.000.000.009.00

northeast of Bear lake on dirt road to Dingle 2 mile 7:43, 5 miles 6:43, 2 miles 7:43

Mizuno Wave Rider 10 Miles: 9.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.000.000.000.007.00

pm 2.5 in Logan is 75 micrograms/liter, rivaling Beijing for the most polluted air in the world.

 so I ran the canyon again,above the inversion, temperature difference of 20 degrees above the inversion and clear unpolluted air. you can tell where the inversion level is simply by watching the thermometer- went from 24 degrees to 40 degrees in one mile around RHF.

 7 miles @7:23

Mizuno Wave Rider 10 Miles: 7.00
Comments
From Metcalf Running on Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 14:55:02

I went snow shoeing up by Snowbasin ski resort Saturday just for that fact... to get above the inversion. Let's hope for a storm soon to blow it all out :)

From redrooster on Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 17:54:22

yeah, this is getting really old.. yuck. It looks like a storm is coming in Thursday, let's hope for the best.

I am training for Ogden Marathon, are you thinking of running that? Scott

From Metcalf Running on Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 16:07:00

Scott,

My plan is to run Ogden, but I guess that's if my shins and other health issues start doing better. I was really hopeing for a good time this year.

Lori

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.000.003.000.0010.00

went to north end of Bear lake to get out of the soup, the lake road from highway 89 to past north beach. foggy, cold, 1500 feet higher in altitude, but clean air. 2.5 mile warmup 7:43, 6 x 0.5 mile at about a 6:03 average, 3.5 mile cool down at 7:49. getting headaches from running in the mountains and Bear Lake, I assume it is the higher altitude. 

Mizuno Wave Rider 10 Miles: 10.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
13.920.000.000.0013.92

13.92 miles.. thats what my GPS says... so 13.92 miles. at bear lake. on the south end. in the drizzling rain. feeling sick. 7'35" pace. I wonder if the extra altitude is what is making me sick?

Saucony Triumph Miles: 13.92
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.100.000.000.007.10

Prov Millville loop

Mizuno Wave Rider 10 Miles: 7.10
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
3.500.004.000.007.50

1.5 mile warmup, 4 x 1 mile on indoor track: 6:07, 6:10, 6:08, 6:09; 2 mile cooldown

Mizuno Wave Precision Miles: 7.50
Comments
From snoqualmie on Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:32:00

Great workout to start the week! I wish I had an indoor track nearby.

From JD on Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 18:28:33

I wish I had some of that speed!

From redrooster on Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 23:51:17

yeah, the indoor track is nice for the speedwork when it is just too cold and icy. disadvantage is at 220 yard too much turning! I am planning some tempo stuff tomorrow and will have to see if I can do it outside or not, supposed to snow again.

JD, thanks, I've always had some natural speed, the endurance is another matter! gotta keep building up if I am going to survive Ogden marathon. are you running that?

From JD on Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 15:45:26

I'm running the Ogden Half. It'll be my first race in six years. I'm planning on a marathon in the Fall.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.100.000.000.007.10

USU to green canyon. cold. icy.

Saucony Triumph Miles: 7.10
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.946.500.000.009.44

1.5 mile warmup at 7:55; 2 miles @ 6:42; 2.5 miles @ 6:38; 2 miles @ 6:48, 1.5 miles cooldown @ 7:47

Mizuno Wave Rider 10 Miles: 9.44
Comments
From Metcalf Running on Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 17:13:00

I envy your speed... I like your new pic also :)

From redrooster on Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 19:22:07

thanks! But I was dying today... it was a tough run! I am really looking forward to spring. But I better not hold my breath yet!.

From David on Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 11:38:33

Hmmmm....if you lack endurance I'm not sure I know what endurance is. It's been really tough running in Logan this past week....great job and incredible speed!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.100.000.000.007.10

UUS to green canyon, threw in 4 strides.

Saucony Triumph Miles: 7.10
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
15.000.000.000.0015.00

BF canyon, from hyrum city park (TOU 1/2 start line) to hardware ranch ending at  the TOU start line, and back again. Turns out to be exactly 15 miles. 11 ounces cytomax and 6 ounces water enroute. 7:37 overall pace

Saucony Triumph Miles: 15.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.000.000.000.007.00

LC 7:29

Saucony Triumph Miles: 7.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.500.004.000.008.50

North end of Bear Lake. 1.6 mile warmup at 7:46, then 4 x 1 mile cruise intervals with 2 minute recoveries. Goal was 6:09 per mile. First two were downwind in 6:06 and 6:06. Second two were opposite direction, upwind, 6:07 then lost steam with the wind and extra altitude and ran a 6:13 for the last one. But I guess they average out pretty close to what I intended though I wish I could have held pace for the last one. 2.3 mile cool down 7:55

Mizuno Wave Precision Miles: 8.50
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.000.000.000.0010.00

east side of bear lake from north end going south. 7:45

Saucony Triumph Miles: 10.00
Comments
From rocinante on Tue, Feb 03, 2009 at 20:26:41

I think I have to start escaping to Bear Lake - the air was awful in town and it wasn't much healthier in the fac. meeting!

You're putting in some amazing times and distances. It is a bit inspiration!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.006.500.000.008.50

north end bear lake, 25 degrees, foggy, 6000 feet elevation with no hills, no wind. goal: 2 miles MGP, 2.5 miles tempo, 2 miles MGP, no breaks between fast intervals.worked out pretty well:

1 mile 7:45

2 miles 6:44

2.5 miles 6:30

2 miles 6:42

1 mile 7:39


Mizuno Wave Rider 10 Miles: 8.50
Comments
From cody on Wed, Feb 04, 2009 at 19:16:12

Nice workout!

Looks like I need 3+ miles tonight to keep up with you.

From redrooster on Wed, Feb 04, 2009 at 19:23:23

thanks Cody, I was pretty happy with the results after a 10 miler yesterday and some speed work monday but am worn out now. I will bask in my two mile year-to-date edge while I can, I am sure it will be short-lived!!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.000.000.000.005.00

LC  7:40. 

Saucony Triumph Miles: 5.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
15.500.000.000.0015.50

finally some breathable air in this wretched little valley. My neighbor celebrated as he does every morning by idling/warming up his F350 diesel pickup for 30 minutes while he stays inside the house. Just the right time to make it toasty comfortable, wouldn't want to get in a cold cab you know.

Building my long runs about 0.5 miles a week... ran USU to Smithfield, 1600 east, down 3400 North, then north again. coming back up 3400 north is a tough uphill lasting forever.  7:39 overall pace. now 10 miles ahead of Cody on the year, we'll see how long it takes for him to overtake me again.

Saucony Triumph Miles: 15.50
Comments
From cody on Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 17:05:20

Oh man, a 15 miler on a weekday? You will blow me away if I keep up the long hours and only put in 3 miles a day.

From rocinante on Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 19:06:23

I know that hill on 3400 N - it's a killer. I ran part of the same route today and it was really pleasant (air, temp. etc) for once. It really kills me - this "keep the big D running while I go and have breakfast at Angies" mentality. Today a guy in a pickup cut me off so he could drive up his mailbox to extract the mail without having to actually, you know, walk to the mail box. I just smiled and shook my head at him - what can you do!

From Jon on Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 20:46:57

Wretched?

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.100.000.000.008.10

Got hit with 12 grants for NIH study section, due at 10 PM today. Got the last one submitted at 9:56. ha ha that's as close as it gets. Now I get to go to San Diego for three days as a "reward".

 

8.1 miles BF canyon 7:32. About 30 police cars, ambulances, fire trucks, and search and rescue vehicles went screaming by to hardware ranch area as I was coming down. I assume a snowmobile accident or someone lost. Hope it turned out OK, will watch for details on the news.


 


 

Mizuno Wave Rider 10 Miles: 8.10
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
3.500.004.000.007.50

plan was 4 x 1 mile at 6:05. plan broke down fast. too tired, too much slush, chose a route with too many turns, 100% humidity with too many layers so I got exercise asthma, I needed albuterol bad after one interval and didn't have any with me.... lots of excuses. oh well. 6:04, 6:10, 6:07, 6:15. My next tempo run will be on Mission Bay in SD, that should cheer me up.

Mizuno Wave Precision Miles: 7.50
Comments
From rocinante on Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 20:21:19

Have fun in San Diego. I'm off to the Bay Area this weekend for an assault on Tilden Park and Strawberry canyon. Lots of elevation gain and loss - the last time I did this run I cried from the pain. But, as they say, no pain no pain. Also, have a 12 mile hike planned .... at least no possibility of a thermal inversion...

The Tilden Tough Ten which I ran a few years back covers some of the same ground as the planned Tilden Tough 16 I'm planning to do...

http://www.lmjs.org/Tilden_Tough_Ten

From Jon on Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 00:07:00

Have fun in sunny CA.

From redrooster on Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 16:10:32

hey thanks guys. Have fun running those hills in Berkeley David, but be careful with the calves. I just about blew mine out in Escondido running some hills over christmas.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.000.000.000.0010.00

10 miles 7:31 USU east bench route

Saucony Triumph Miles: 10.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.007.000.000.009.00

ha ha ha, here I am at the beautiful Catamaran Hotel and Spa on Mission Bay in San Diego. They gave me a nice suite on the 10th floor with a balcony overlooking the bay, pretty nice, I guess NIH hasn't suffered from the economy turndown yet. Ran 7 miles @ 6:26 with 1 mile warmup and 1 mile cooldown. It is easy to run fast at sea level. OK better look over some exciting grant proposals to get ready for "nerds R us" tomorrow.

Mizuno Wave Rider 10 Miles: 9.00
Comments
From Jon on Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 21:32:38

Have fun at Nerds R us

From redrooster on Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 21:51:24

man, I was counting on you to carry me thru the ogden marathon. now I find none of you guys are running. what do I do now????

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.000.000.000.005.00

5 @7:32 threw in 4 strides. mission bay.

 

Mizuno Wave Rider 10 Miles: 5.00
Comments
From edrickt on Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 22:22:53

I was just checking some blogs to see what other people were doing and stumbled on yours. Dang, now I'm just intimidated! Great work ethic and unbelievable speed for an old college professor. You may have taught my niece or nephew, Adam or Sydney Tew. They both graduate from your college if not department this spring. Anyway, keep it up. Maybe I'll see you at the TOU this year. (I'll be the one way in the back.)

From redrooster on Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 00:11:57

thanks for the note and kind words!! The Tew names sound familiar... I will have to see if they were in one of my intro gen chem classes. I don't think they were in my biochem class. I am running Ogden this spring, how about you? I may or may not do TOU depending on how thrashed I am after Ogden... hoping to break 3 hours at Ogden, that is why I am training so hard. Scott

From edrickt on Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 04:46:18

These kids are from the smart side of the family. Syd's planning on graduate work in pharmacy and Adam's choosing between Stanford and some Ivy League offers for post grad work in something that sounds like what you do. I thought you might know them, but then again, they don't run...

I'm planning 2 marathons this year: Ogden and TOU. I'm pretty sure I'll only see the back of you in either of them. Keep it up! Squaggies!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
15.900.000.000.0015.90

looking out at mission bay from my 10th floor suite... not looking forward to heading back to cold nasty Utah in a few hours... and my in-laws house and the avacodo farm are just 30 minutes north of here in Calsbad and Valley Center....  I could just crash their place and leave my wife and kids to fend for themselves and return in April...

Oh well, I got up at 4:30 AM, yes 4:30 AM and punched out a 15.9 mile run. 7:24 pace, two gu gels, 14 oz water. Upside of running mission bay: nice trail system. downside: CONCRETE. my body does not like concrete.  well, gotta run to "nerds R us" aka NIH study section, what a blast.

Mizuno Wave Rider 10 Miles: 15.90
Comments
From Blue Raccoon on Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 11:57:19

The Red RoadRunner would me more appropriate. Man, you are doing good.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.250.000.000.007.25

lower millville-Prov- RH loop, from Don's auto. 5 strides. 7:38

10 degrees icy cold.  air quality good, 12.3.

Mizuno Wave Rider 10 Miles: 7.25
Comments
From rocinante on Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 20:52:39

Brrr...I'm dreading coming back. I think that even with Frankenstein (muddy) feet it's easier than a 10 degree run....Good job in Mission Bay by the way....

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.000.000.000.0012.00

pm 2.5 was above 30 this morning... my cutoff is 25... so I checked the weather conditions/forecast and noticed a nice east wind coming down BF canyon- so I ran there in nice clean air. Hyrum city park to Rock Creek sign is 12 miles RT. 7:37 pace.



Mizuno Wave Rider 10 Miles: 12.00
Comments
From RivertonPaul on Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 11:30:11

I do know Mark Ostler, he is in my stake. Small world, isn't it.

From redrooster on Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 17:22:02

yeah, ostler and I are running the SLC 1/2 together, are you doing that?

we were missionaries together in Norway back in 1980-1982. He got me back into running several years ago by forcing me to train for the DN 10K.

Hope you can slide into Ogden, are you on the waiting list?

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.000.000.000.0010.00

10 7:39

Saucony Triumph Miles: 10.00
Comments
From Jon on Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 22:34:17

You're about as descriptive as I am some days.

http://jon.fastrunningblog.com/blog-8/01-07-2009.html

From redrooster on Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 11:33:09

yeah, kind of a reflection on my general level of running enthusiasm these days. hope you are back on your feet!!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.007.300.000.009.30

Need some sort of tempo run today... roads look really icy and snowy... the question is- risk life and limb to run on the icy roads, or hit the little 220 yard indoor track and dodge PE kids, while trying to keep my sanity feeling like a hamster on it's little wheel running 64 mind-numbing laps...... I am going to have to think this one through a bit...... 

 

OK- Neal Legler called and agreed to pace me out on a 7-8 mile tempo. I thought I could hold a 6:26 pace like I did last week in San Diego. I thought wrong. Four miles in at 6:32 and I started getting fierce intestinal cramps. Had to stop at 5 miles having averaged 6:34. Rested a couple minutes and dragged out another 2.3 at 6:41. I told Neal to just leave me at that point so he could get his workout, we then met up and jogged an easy 1 mile back to campus.

The cramps... strange.... but then I did have baked beans for supper last night.. am wondering if that caused my trouble? Or the fact that I did the tempo after three days putting in 29 already, which is alot for me in 3 days... I guess I am just not ready for prime time.

Mizuno Wave Rider 10 Miles: 9.30
Comments
From cody on Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 13:01:30

Do what I do and run easy miles on the treadmill instead....Bag it all...

From redrooster on Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 14:43:38

Aren't you guys supposed to be motivating me as my role models not tempting me to bag it..... man I was hurting today. You ever had intestinal cramping like that on a run? Do you think it was the baked beans for dinner last night???

I wish I was back in San Diego.... man that was easy running down there.

From rocinante on Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 14:47:42

Did you make the beans yourself? Hopefully they weren't out of a can!!!

I would blame the beans unless you eat them regularly. I eat a ton of pinto beans and have become immune but if I go a few weeks without (e.g., in England where they are hard to get) then I have the same reaction.

Tip: soak the beans overnight and then slow cook them before eating them or converting them to baked beans.

Doubleplussgood tip: "For the bean town marathon eat plenty of beans."

Steeling myself to run in the ice and snow - suffering from Berkeley withdrawal...

You are climbing the mileage board far to quickly....

From redrooster on Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 16:26:29

David, good old Bush's baked beans with brown sugar right out of the can. not exactly fine dining. I don't think I will use those to carb load before the marathon. still feeling sick... blech...

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.000.000.000.005.00

5 miles @7:50 with five strides. If I can run 16.5 tomorrow I can hit 60 for the week.

Saucony Triumph Miles: 5.00
Comments
From jtshad on Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 16:21:28

Go for the 16.4 miler, you can do it!

From redrooster on Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 17:39:05

Thanks, your blog is great, you are the master's champion, which is why I am watching your blog to see how you train!

I hope to see you in Ogden, but I will be way behind you, I am just hoping to break 3 hours.

Thanks for the encouragement, Scott

From jtshad on Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 10:45:30

It would be good to meet you in Ogden as well. I haven't heard back from them yet as to if I got in (comp) and I am considering running another one just for a change from the last couple of years (Couer d'Alene, Great Potato).

From redrooster on Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 12:27:31

Jeff, I never heard back from Ogden but found my verification on the active.com registration page:

http://www.active.com/search_reg.cfm?SR_ID=21967&CHECKSSO=0&EVENT_ID=1635798

I see you already ran an awesome 2:40 marathon this year at Disney World- sounds like fun, sea level and warmth is starting to look pretty good to me right now!

From jtshad on Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 12:31:46

WDW was fun, just a hard time of year to train for a marathon but I hit exactly where I thought I was trained for.

Warm weather is definitely needed soon for most everyone in our area!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
16.500.000.000.0016.50

ran the east side of Bear lake on cisco road, around the back side of the lake. what I didn't count on was the strong north wind. I am guessing it was a continuous 15+ mph wind, all I know is it felt like a brick wall for 8.25 miles. I parked my car half way through the route so I could refuel without carrying more than one 7 oz bottle. Ran the first 4.25 down wind, then turned north and ran continuous 8.25 into the wind, stopping for a a gu and water at the car and to pick up another 7 oz bottle. Turning back south for the last four was like heaven, I felt like I was being pushed all the way back to the car. But I paid for this run. big time. I am not sure I will ever run again. I am seriously traumatized. I don't think I am built for the long distances. 

16.5 at 7:38 average, probably faster than I should be running this kind of condition, but I just wanted to get through. Hit my goal of 60 for the week.

one gu, 14 oz cytomax, 8 oz water.


Saucony Triumph Miles: 16.50
Comments
From rocinante on Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 11:35:58

Well, you did it! Congrats! Your run sounds like mine last weekend in Berkeley with the wind (and mud). Wind is very discouraging but your time was awesome especially considering the wind - now we have to think about a 70 mile week!

From redrooster on Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 20:49:18

geez, it was hard enough to go 60, I can't even think about 70. just want clean air, warm weather!!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
9.000.000.000.009.00

BF canyon, 4.5 up 7:55 4.5 down 7:15

Saucony Triumph Miles: 9.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.005.000.000.007.00

trying to assess my options for running today...bad air quality... drizzly rain but no wind.... no time to go anywhere out of the inversion....  we need a 6-7 mph wind for one hour  to clear the air... will it come? the weather forecast is not clear... is the air indoor better than outdoors? I guess I can run the indoor track if I have to... but I really doubt the air in there is any better than outside.... well, I will grade enzymology exams for a couple hours and see what shakes out.. 

 OK, ran the indoor track, maybe the air is better in there, who knows? one mile warmup, 5  miles at 6:26, one mile cooldown.

I wanted a longer tempo today but that will have to do. just praying for the next storm to come and blow out the pollution for a few days.

Mizuno Wave Precision Miles: 7.00
Comments
From rocinante on Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 14:04:52

My dilemma too - I've watched the PM2.5 climb from 45 to 51.9 while SLC is at 4.5 - yes 4.5.

If I miss today I've awarded myself a 10 mile deficit that has to be made up over the next 5 days :-) I can't stand running indoors.

From redrooster on Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 15:55:15

I bit the bullet and ran inside. But I really doubt the air is any better in there. But what can we do??? AUUUUGGHHHH

From rocinante on Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 16:01:45

Not much...

I'm still debating. If I can run every remaining day this week I can meet my mileage target but I'll need to push the 8 milers to 10. The air quality has actually become worse over the past hour despite the drizzle.

From rocinante on Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 19:38:34

Great, they just revised the forecast - red alerts through wednesday. This is truly abysmal.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
11.002.000.000.0013.00

USU to 3400 N, down the nasty hill, then out to 4400 E. That is 6.5 miles from Widtsoe building so 13 RT

Ran the first 11 at an overall 7:40. Then I kicked it up the last two miles and ran 6:41 for the last two.

Good air, finally.

Broke in a new pair of new balance after two years out of them; these 1062's seem a little bigger than the 1060s I had a couple years ago but I guess the extra toe room can't hurt on the long runs, which is all I plan on using these super-cushioned shoes for.

NB 1062 Pair 1 Miles: 13.00
Comments
From JD on Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 22:49:56 from 32.176.44.34

Hey! What happened to my 12 mile lead over you for the year? Now I'm only .84 miles ahead! Maybe you should take an easy week you know, don't want to over do it. :-)

From redrooster on Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 16:49:31 from 129.123.3.31

JD, I feel like taking a week or two off right now! Problem is, you have more mileage and are only training for the half marathon, which means I should have twice as many miles I guess.. so you are technically WAY in front of me!!

From JD on Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 16:59:40 from 64.65.159.206

Well, if we consider the amount of time it takes you to run these miles with the amount of time it takes me to run them...I'll never catch up!

You're going to blow the doors off of 3 hrs. at Ogden!

From redrooster on Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 00:53:46 from 71.219.151.12

JD, now I've done something to my foot- I am hoping nothing too serious but maybe I should take a day or two off and let you get the lead back. Injuries- the one factor that isn't completely in our control. sigh...

From JD on Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 11:16:44 from 32.176.143.174

I hope the foot heals quickly. This is an easy week for me so if you take a day or two off I won't get that far ahead...however, I'm hoping to run some higher mileages then next couple of months...send some speed my way!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.300.000.003.009.30

first day of interval running since last November and I was as rusty and out of shape as I expected 4x 0.5 miles and 4 x 0.25 miles with recoveries, on the street. I ran about 20-25 seconds slower on a per mile pace than I can do when training for a 10K so I definitely have some work to do. Results were:

0.51 miles, 5:48 pace
0.50 miles, 5:43 pace
0.51 miles, 5:44 pace
0.52 miles 5:43 pace
0.26 miles 5:26 pace
0.26 miles 5:46 pace
0.26 miles 5:28 pace
0.26 miles 5:45 pace

 2.6 miles warmup, 2.5 miles cooldown.

Did something to my inside left foot when I fell skiing Saturday and it is bugging me with a dull aching pain, especially on turns/lateral movement. I may have to take a day or two off and rest it... I checked with my coach, trainer, and sports  Dr. Paul and he provided sage and prompt advice as always, for the usual price. Will get it looked at if it doesn't improve. 

Mizuno Wave Rider 10 Miles: 9.30
Comments
From jtshad on Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 17:38:25 from 204.134.132.225

Solid intervals! Listen to your body and rest the foot a bit, better to not aggrevate it for training.

From paul on Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 17:48:21 from 65.103.252.214

And the advice is worth exactly what you paid for it...

From redrooster on Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 18:24:44 from 129.123.3.31

Jeff, thanks, in my paranoid mindset now I am reluctant to take the time off but in the long run you are right, I will probably be better off resting it. Will see how it feels tomorrow..

Paul- I keep waiting for the coaching bills to show up in the mail but maybe you got my address wrong.

From rocinante on Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 19:30:32 from 129.123.67.241

How do you keep track with such precision? - I have a Garmin 305 but can barely read it without glasses, i.e., when I'm running and have no idea how to program it! You either have someway of doing this automatically or you have an excellent memory, or both!

From redrooster on Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 00:48:13 from 71.219.151.12

David, you've got a 305? I only have a 205. I will show you how to set the different screens and review your laps sometime, you need to be taking advantage of all that technology in that little sucker, its powerful and easy!

From rocinante on Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 11:30:45 from 129.123.67.241

Scott, yes I got a 305 in Spain because I lost my 205 and they didn't have a 205 in stock. Don't use the hrm. I guess I should read the manual!

Hope the foot is improving...

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.000.000.000.005.00

well, I should have rested my foot but I iced it last night, wrapped it, then wrapped it today and put in 5 easy miles. It felt better than yesterday. I think I must have strained it when I fell skiing last saturday. Well, I have to do probably 3 more ski days before the season ends at Beaver as we have season passes and go every Saturday. I thought about bagging the skiing, but then, I kind of have to go to take my seven year old twins on the lifts and make sure they don't get separated or lost on the runs, so if I have to injure myself skiing at the expense of running, I guess it is worth it in the grander scheme of things.
Need to get my foot looked at anyway, left foot is supinating bad based on wear patterns, consequence of really high rigid arches, a genetic curse from my father's side of the family- might need to look into orthotics as I am very susceptible to sprains and IT band injuries due to no natural foot cushioning.

5 @ 7:36 throwing in 5 strides

 

NB 1062 Pair 1 Miles: 5.00
Comments
From jtshad on Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 15:15:50 from 204.134.132.225

Hope you can get your foot issues addressed to keep up your training. Have you looked into orthodics?

From redrooster on Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 15:22:42 from 129.123.3.31

Jeff, yeah, I want to look into orthotics, do you have any knowledge about them or experience with them? It is a little bewildiering- custom, mail order, then something called "great feet" which I am kind of skeptical of but don't know much. Paul put me onto a sports orthopedist who is a runner so I am going to ask him about them next week. I think it is probably a good idea with the miles I am looking to log here.

Any advice you have on orthotics would be welcome!!

From jtshad on Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 15:33:07 from 204.134.132.225

I don't have any personnel experience with them, but I do know several folks who have used various different kinds.

My wife developed PF last year and we got her into some "over the counter" types that seemed to have helped (along with other things). The chiropractor she went to see for it said she shouldn't try them unless she got worse (she is getting better but still has some pain). Her mom had PF bad and when she finally got custom orthodics she improved.

I have a runner friend here in town who is training for Boston and she just developed foot issues and went and got custom orthodic, we are waiting to see if they help.

Sorry I can't help more.

I have heard the full range from yes the help to no they don't, so it is a personal thing to investigate.

From redrooster on Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 18:14:26 from 129.123.3.31

thanks for the info, it is helpful. I will look at different options- there appear to be lots.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
16.700.000.000.0016.70

I am pretty sure I was not cut out to be a marathon runner.... after this gig is up I think I will take up monster truck shows and demolition derbies as my hobby.
And I am going to shred these sorry new balance shoes and just stick with mizuno and saucony from now on. 

16.7 miles @ 7:34, millville- LC via first dam

NB 1062 Pair 1 Miles: 16.70
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
9.000.000.000.009.00

BF canyon, 4.5 up 8:04, 4.5 down 7:21. 4 strides

Saucony Triumph Miles: 9.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.000.000.000.000.00

My foot hurts so I think I will just take a couple days off and rest it and wait and see what the doctor says, so marathon training is on hold. In the meantime I will entertain myself watching the stock market crash and all my investments and retirement go up in smoke.

Comments
From rocinante on Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 18:37:49 from 129.123.67.241

Good luck with the doc. You probably need a bit of a rest anyway after the last two mega-weeks. Great timing, eh - stock market crash and a furlough at the same time.

From cody on Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 18:51:57 from 69.9.58.17

Smart move waiting. Better to get healthy before pushing it.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
3.705.000.000.008.70

Wanted to run 6 miles at about a 6:30 tempo pace. Quit after 5 miles at 6:34. Legs were just tired, and my foot still hurts. whine, whine... Ran in a North-South out and back, with wind first, and the wind was out of the south at about 13 mph with gusts, maybe it was running back into the wind that just took the energy out of me, but I didn't have another mile in me. So I decided to run down to the track and do some 400s or 800s to round things out thinking naively the track would be clear of snow. No such luck, stupid thing has a foot of snow on it still and of course no one is going to clear it off. So I just cut my losses and ran back to work.

Discouraged by my lack of stamina for the tempo runs and foot problem, I feel like I was running stronger and easier back in December than I am now. 

Mizuno Wave Precision Miles: 8.70
Comments
From jtshad on Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 14:36:22 from 204.134.132.225

Could just be one those days where your aren't feeling it. Just put it behind you and continue to hitting your training goals.

Keep up the good work.

From redrooster on Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 16:58:37 from 129.123.3.31

thanks, I appreciate you helping me stay with it!! at least the weather is warming up finally!

From Predog on Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 19:34:37 from 129.123.243.53

The weather was nice today wasn't it? Hope your foot gets better. Be careful with it. Nothing like an injury to put a damper on your training and feel goods.

From redrooster on Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 19:59:12 from 129.123.3.31

Joe, yeah the weather felt good. I am getting the old foot looked at tomorrow. If I get the green light we should go for some training runs from USU depending on your class schedule. Neal Legler (they guy we ran on the track with last fall) signed up for Ogden too, and he probably would be interested in some training runs too.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.000.000.000.000.00

Went to see Dr. Lyons, it as good I did as it appears I have inflamed the tendons on the inside of my left ankle and it could degenerate without some prompt actions. It is a very strange injury, due to the fact that I have very high rigid arches that cause me to supinate, particularly the left foot,  causing stress on the inside. I also have a strange extra bone down there (from the x-rays) which I didn't know about, that kind of interferes with the tendons ruinning intot he foot. Well, anyway, I am out for a few days while I see if this thing responds to rest, ice antinflammatories and then start some physical therapy with a running and orthotic evaluation  next week before I am cleared to run again. Dr. Lyons thinks I can still run Ogden, I am not sure what the impact will be for a guy my age losing a week of training with my sub 3 hour goal for the marathon. I will have to check with my coaches, Paul, Cody, Jon, etc.

I guess I should have had the foot evaluated a long time ago. Thanks to Paul Petersen for getting me on top of this and suggesting Dr. Lyons, it is obvious he knows feet and running. So now I will eat big macs and fries and see how much weight I can gain while I "rest". It's been a good run, I gave it my best, and maybe it's not over yet.



Comments
From jtshad on Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 14:56:43 from 204.134.132.225

Sorry to hear about the foot, but now you can at least name the pain and have treatment/recovery options. Hang in there and take the approach you outlined and come back running healthy.

From redrooster on Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 15:01:03 from 129.123.3.31

Thanks for the support Jeff, you guys are awesome, I will keep myself motivated by watching yours and others training logs!

From Jon on Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 15:02:50 from 138.64.2.78

Missing one week of training when you are 10 weeks out? No problem- still on track for your goal. Cross train if you can (bike? water running?) and don't get fat. But get your foot better and then jump back into it.

Do you need to give up skiing?

Also, where is Dr. Lyons? Does he take IHC?

From paul on Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 15:16:12 from 75.162.221.204

I'm glad your visit with Dr. Lyons was fruitful. He's by far the best dr. I've seen in Logan, simply because he's so attentive and knows his running. (Jon, he is at Canyonview Orthopedics, in the Budge Clinic @ IHC). He is the USU sports doctor as well, and there was an article in the Cache Weekend magazine about him a few weeks ago.

Keep your chin up, and hit the elliptical and arc trainer hard, if you have access to them. You can maintain great fitness with just the elliptical, and you can do "intervals" and "tempos" on them as well. With any luck, you'll come back stronger than before, with a chip on your shoulders and fire in your eyes.

I've done PT at IHC several times. I found it very tedious, but it always cured my injury. They have a running lab there and can analyze your form.

From redrooster on Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 15:23:36 from 129.123.3.31

Paul and Jon, thanks- I have never done the elliptical or arc trainer, I will see if they have something in the HPER I can use- I assume that is less stressful on the foot joints? The nice equipment in the fieldhouse is for students only, we poor faculty can't use it but maybe I can sneak in or bribe a student I've had in class. I was thinking of biking to work and back in the interim.

Yeah, Dr. Lyons is definitely the right guy-knows his stuff and clear he cares. There is also an article on him in last week's Cache magazine if you haven't seen it.

From cody on Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 16:26:28 from 69.9.58.17

Not much I can add that hasn't been said. "Pool running" helped me maintain fitness last year. I would highly recommend that if you have access to a deep pool. I can tell you how to do it if interested.

I hope the recovery goes fast so you can give me a run at the mileage board :)

From Jon on Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 17:10:14 from 138.64.2.78

Yeah, Scott, I think you jinxed yourself into an injury by trashtalking with Cody about the mileage board...

From redrooster on Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 18:31:30 from 129.123.3.31

trash talking? moi? OK, get way ahead of me on the miles so the jinx is off!!

pool running... sounds interesting- except I hate water as I get cold due to 0% body fat- but might be worth a try!

I think marathons just ain't my gig, I am designed to be a 35-50 mile a week runner. I would have just stuck with the Bolder Boulder 10K as my "big" race this year, but my brother in Boulder will be out of town Memorial day so I thought, hey here is the year to do a marathon. Oh well, I will try riding my bike tomorrow for fun, if I can find my air pump.

From wheakory on Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 14:32:50 from 134.50.89.55

Did you get an MRI done. My pain is kind of on the side of the heel, but not underneath just on both sides. One side hurts more than the other.

From redrooster on Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 14:53:10 from 129.123.3.31

they took some x-rays, unfortunately I can't have MRIs because I have a cochlear implant in my head and the MRI would rip the sucker right out. I can have a CT scan if I have to, but I am hoping with a few days rest I can ease back onto it again. My problem is just the inside left foot above ankle, probably because of a real nasty supinatioin problem.

Hope your foot gets better fast!

From JD on Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 20:53:10 from 32.176.81.26

Sorry to hear about your foot. I hope the condition responds well to the icing, PT etc. I was looking forward to our little race up the yearly mileage board. Hope Ogden's still in there for you. I'll be running the half, looking forward to meeting some bloggers.

Good luck!

From RivertonPaul on Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 18:38:07 from 67.42.27.114

Any update? Hope things improve.

From paul on Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 08:21:03 from 75.162.221.204

Hope things are going well for you. How is the PT?

From redrooster on Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 22:36:33 from 71.219.142.244

Paul and Paul, thanks for the notes, went to PT today- after more exxamination things may be a little worse than I thought, with some shin splint problems to boot. All linked to a tendon running down the interior of my lower leg, into my toes. Inflamed in the foot and against the shin bone. So I have orders still not to run for awhile though I haven't in a week. My guess is Ogden is now out. Maybe I can get it back together for TOU in the fall? Kind of bummed out, I should probably cancel my Ogden registration so someone on the waiting list can get in.

Next week when the university opens again I will start hitting the elliptical and maybe take a stab at water running?

Paul (Riverton)- I will watch for you to take care of business in Ogden for me, we will have to run a different race another time!

Thanks guys, Scott

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
13.002.000.000.0015.00

last two miles @6:40

NB 1062 Pair 1 Miles: 15.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.150.000.000.008.15

8.15, last run before calling it quits, just catching up the log

NB 1062 Pair 1 Miles: 8.15
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.100.000.000.000.10

I thought I was impervious to injury. I guess I was wrong. Went to PT and was told to not run, just stretch and strengthen my weak foot and inflamed tendon. I have been humbled and (I guess) learned the importance of preventive maintenance and watching for problems.  I hope to be back in form for Smithfield Health Days 10K and the July 4 Blacksmith Fork Freedom run 15K. For the next couple weeks it's just stretching,  foot, shin and calf exercises, and I will start riding the old bike to work and back. To console myself I shall live vicariously through the accomplishments of others on the blog! As Governor Arnold says, I'll be baaack... I hope....

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.000.000.000.000.00

Anyone know how you modify the training categories to add "cross training" so I can keep track of my ellipticals?

Anyway, I hit the elliptical for the first time. I have no idea what I was doing and the programs made no sense. So I just got on and pedalled, played with the resistance a bit but kept it pretty low and easy. So I "ran" at about 80 rpm for one hour, keeping my heart rate at about 150. Paul- if you are reading this- any suggestions for modifying that? Seemed like a decent workout anyway. My feet were kind of numb when I finished but that went away fast-maybe these spenco arch supports I have been wearing at doctors advice?

OK- my foot is starting to feel better and the tendon is not as irritated down there. I have one really, nasty sore spot on my left  interior of shin, right on the muscle against the bone, just in one place, probably 1/3 to 1/2 the way up my calf. If you touch it just right, and not hard, it induces huge pain, the type that makes you scream and hit the roof. Does not seem to be improving.  But doesn't hurt when I run, but the PT guy said it is a shin splint injury and not to run til it improves. Has anyone experienced anything similar, and any advice on how to deal with it? I wonder if it is knotted, inflamed or something worse? Why just in the one spot-is that good or bad? Anyone out there who can help me out?

Comments
From paul on Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 17:25:14 from 65.103.252.214

Sounds like about what I do. If you want, you can "go backwards" just to break things ups and use some different muscles. I also like to progressively ramp up the resistance to keep my mind occupied.

From redrooster on Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 17:34:32 from 129.123.3.31

Paul, thanks, yeah, it is pretty boring, but a decent workout. any thoughts on that tender spot on my inside shin? How is the enbrel going? I think I am going to start taking some supplemental calcium to go with my 1000IU vitamin D, probably just TUMS (generic brand).

From cody on Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 17:59:30 from 69.9.58.17

My tendon issues I had took a combination of rest, ice, TENS unit, and TIME. I could only speed up the healing process so much. No impact exercises were a must for me.

I have no experience with shin splints if that is really what it is. I kind of wonder... Odd for a guy like you to have shin splints.

From paul on Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 18:05:58 from 65.103.252.214

I know nothing about shins. Have you tried ice massage on the spot?

I think the Enbrel is working pretty well. I haven't taken NSAIDs since Wednesday, and I would normally be in much more pain than I am now, whenever I go off them for this long. I think my peripheral joints are doing better too.

I think I heard somewhere that Tums is actually bad for you. Probably because it would keep your stomach acid low or something. Might want to check into that. I just ordered some of this stuff:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001G8Y920

From redrooster on Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 19:05:02 from 129.123.3.31

Cody- I dont know much about shin splints as this is my first experience, just relying on what the PT guy (Nathan) said. this surfaced after I met with Dr. Lyons so I haven't discussed it with him. I go back to PT wed. so will ask more questions.

Paul, thanks for the tums heads up. I have acid reflux anyway and take prilosec for that so maybe best like you say not to mess with my stomach acid anymore, I do now recall tums long term is bad. I will check out the product you suggested, thanks.

From Jon on Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 16:58:22 from 138.64.2.76

This is how you change mileage categories:

http://fastrunningblog.com/forum/index.php/topic,849.0.html

From jtshad on Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 16:59:39 from 204.134.132.225

My feet go numb on the eliptical as well.

Hang in there and get healthy and get back out running after you get over the injury.

From redrooster on Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 01:27:53 from 71.219.149.227

Jon- I am afraid that might blow up my computer- sounds tough....

Jeff- good to hear I'm not the only one with numb feet on that thing, numbness always makes me nervous. Few more days and I am going to ease back in to running if I can!!

From Jon on Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 09:00:24 from 138.64.2.76

Yeah, I've blown mine up a few times but Sasha can bring it back.

Just so you know, Paul and I are now above you on the mileage board (just barely).

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.000.000.000.000.00

45 minutes on the stupid elliptical. gee what fun. great weather outside and I get to be a hamster on an elliptical in the stupid fieldhouse. Question- why don't they put an electrical generator on the ellipticals so the energy could be put to green use? Since I am producing 180 watts I could power 10 high efficiency fluorescent light bulbs on this stupid thing.


Comments
From paul on Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 17:07:46 from 65.103.252.214

At my gym, the ellipticals power the TV audio jacks. Better than nothing, right?

From rocinante on Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 18:18:54 from 129.123.67.241

That's a bummer! It must be the season for injuries - last week I hurt my knee. But it seems ok now. I thought I was done but today managed 8 and it feels alright.

How long do they think you'll be out?

From redrooster on Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 18:37:24 from 129.123.3.31

Paul- you're kidding, right?

David- beats me. If it was up to me I would start running tomorrow. But I guess I am going to have to listen to wiser people and just ride this out for awhile. Ogden is out. Now I am thinking about doing the Boulder Bolder 10K on Memorial day and shoot for a sub 38. I figure all I need for that is 8 weeks of solid training, so I am hoping two weeks to get back to running.

From paul on Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 18:40:33 from 65.103.252.214

No, I'm serious. Jon can vouch for me. If I stop pedaling, I lose audio to my headphones.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.500.000.000.000.50

30 minute elliptical. 0.5 miles treadmill

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.500.000.000.000.50

30 minutes elliptical 

0.5 miles treadmill.

May start running tomorrow based on what PT and Dr say

 

Today I have three sons with birthdays. Two born the same year, one born a different year, but all born on the same day.

Comments
From Jon on Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 16:29:25 from 138.64.2.76

Is today the birthday day?

From redrooster on Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 16:31:02 from 129.123.3.31

umm...yeah, March 24, did you remember to buy gifts for them??

From Jon on Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 17:04:54 from 138.64.2.76

I thought you were taking care of that for me.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.000.000.000.002.00

two miles at 7:45. foot and shin seem reasonable OK... maybe a little sore on the foot? Not sure if pyschosomatic or not. Iced, ibuprofen, will probably not run tomorrow. But I can't do the eplliptical anymore- it drivesme carzy and it also makes my right knee sore- dont like the motion. I need to learn how to water run. Cody, can you help me out if you are listening?

Comments
From wheakory on Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 23:30:33 from 24.116.153.110

At least you had faith and tried. Now you know like me that the recovery can be frustrating like we mentioned early on my blog.

I've heard a lot of people mention that the Elliptical hurts knees. I haven't experienced it yet. But I experienced the crazy part of using it.

What do you think about getting an Ultra Sonic treatment on it? That might speed the healing up. I've thought about doing this myself.

From redrooster on Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 12:49:26 from 129.123.3.31

thanks for the info on the elliptical knee thing- now I know I'm not imagining it, it really bugs me!

we got snow last night, it was 20 degrees this morning and the roads were icy. but trying to be dedicated I hopped on my bike and headed to work. then going up a hill the chain broke! maybe all this is just a sign that I need to just eat donuts and watch TV for a few months :-)

I will ask about the ultrasnic, sounds interesting.

Hang in there, keep healing, I am looking forward to meeting you when we get back in shape and can run a race together, Scott

From wheakory on Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 13:59:39 from 134.50.89.33

Can I join you with the donut idea. I really like that. Maybe we can hang out at the races and watch everyone else run and we will eat donuts.

I would try the water jogging like I hopefully I'm going to try next week. I'm going to maybe try and run tomorrow or Saturday.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.010.000.000.000.01

rode my bike to work. 20 degrees. ice covered roads. going up dugway couldnt get gears on granny sprocket as derailleur was iced. broke the bile chain as I powered up dugway. In process slammed my knee into my handlebar as the chain broke leaving a really nice bump and bruise.

 PM- Tried a new elliptical, precor, a different experience than the other model- keeps feet at a higher incline- and it didn't hurt my knees. chose a cross country program and pedalled hard for 50 minutes. It definitely worked me, with heart rate up around 140-160. I like this one better than the other ones. but it is still sheer boredom.

Also did 2 x 20 reps on the horizontal bench press at low weight (75 pounds). together with the biking not a bad exercise day I guess.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.700.000.000.002.70

2.7 easy, no problems

2 x 20 horizontal leg press with 55 pounds. yeah that is nothing but I am not looking to bulk up

2 x 20 foot rasies with 55 pounds on the horizontal leg press

played on stationary and spinner bikes a little. I am thinking of following the FIRST program of training for awhile, maybe even for a marathon. I am pretty sure the high mileage stuff is not my gig.


NB 1062 Pair 1 Miles: 2.70
Comments
From paul on Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 16:15:00 from 76.27.122.123

Glad you were able to run a few miles today.

From redrooster on Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 16:45:44 from 129.123.3.31

thanks Paul, foot and shin feel pretty good, but just going to take it easy for awhile to play it safe, keep doing the PT exercises and stretches. I am planning on going with more cross training too, I downloaded all the FIRST training programs, I am intrigued by that approach. Hope the enbrel is working well and I can catch up and run with you guys sometime soon.

From cody on Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 17:02:56 from 69.9.58.17

I looked over the FIRST marathon program. Not a bad approach. 1 day speed, 1 day tempo, 1 day distance. Cross-train or easy miles the other days. Good theory. The question is whether it is easier on your body (injuries-wise) to drop the mileage and do this program, but add a huge stress by making the long run so much more volume-wise than the rest of the week. Those are some tough long-runs too as all are near MP for the whole thing. I have a VERY hard time approaching my MP for more than a few miles of the long run. Those will be very stressing runs. but with the reduced mileage you should recover easier. Interesting. I do forsee a fuel shortage issue too as your body will be accostumed to hour long workouts and not used to 2+ hours of running.

But if it means you can race a marathon without getting injured, ti is worth it, right?

Glad you were able to run with no issues today!

From redrooster on Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 21:14:13 from 71.219.136.152

Cody, yeah, I have the same concerns/questions about that first thing, but find it intriguing. I am going to play it by ear, if my foot keeps giving me trouble I am going to give it a shot. What I like is how all the runs are pretty fast- I hate grinding out slow easy runs, I like the idea of three quality runs. But who knows.

Hey- my brother turns 50 this year so I will probably go run BB with him as he lives in Boulder- thought I would get him a FRB singlet for his birthday. Do I just order it from the St george running company or something? I need one too- but must be sure I can wear it worthily..... don't want to embarrass the blog and our sponsors...

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.000.000.000.004.00

4 miles @ 7:25 overall with six strides.

then 15 minutes on the spinner stationary bike.

NB 1062 Pair 1 Miles: 4.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.100.000.000.000.10

Tried water running in the HPER pool. 65 minutes varying pace. no idea what I was doing. Just kind of... ran.... I guess. with a belt on. in the diving pool. varying pace up and down to simulate intervals. HR between 120 and 145 probably. Well, I did something because when I got out of the pool I could barely walk. Pfitzinger claims it is a true substitute for running. I guess we'll find out if is for me. 

Not sure how long stride should be, if I should kick legs up, they say stride rate is lower in water. I imagine I was turning over slower than maybe I should have been if I was supposed to hit 80 cycles per minute, I guess I was doing maybe 70.


Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.100.000.000.007.10

7.1 miles @ 7:24 USU to green canyon, 6 strides

Comments
From cody on Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 16:31:33 from 69.9.58.17

so far so good??

From redrooster on Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 16:45:42 from 129.123.3.31

Cody, yeah, knock on wood, but I am taking it pretty conservative. tomorrow I am probably going back to the water!

I hope I am doing the water running right.

I don't think I can recover in time for Ogden but maybe I can drop down to the half if they will let me? I am shooting my sights on memorial day in Boulder. Maybe I can do some tempo runs with you guys to help me out?

From cody d on Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 18:06:24 from 69.9.58.17

Yeah, Ogden is probably too soon. The half would be lots better. Let me know when you are ok for some workouts. It looks like you are doing the water running right. Its simple, do whatever feels natural (as close to running as you can get). Yes, your turnover will be much slower. All that matters is effort.

From redrooster on Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 18:27:33 from 129.123.3.31

Thanks Cody, I just transferred down to the half so it is not a total loss. should be good training for the BB. You should do the BB with me this year, you can be my pace setter, or just leave me in the dust (I assume you would do the latter). Looking forward to some speed work with you guys (speed work for me, easy running for you).

From cody d on Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 23:10:09 from 67.161.250.22

I want to run BB one day. Probably next year. I must limit my colorado races to one per year.

You should still fly in Ogden. Pretty sweet 1/2 course. I want to do that too someday.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.000.000.000.000.00

did 55 minutes of water running, 5 minute intervals "hard" (I guess) with 2 minute recoveries plus some warm up and cool down.

nothing to gauge this technique against so I don't know what I am accomplishing if anything. we will find out in two weeks when I run the SLC half with no real conventional training for a 5 week period leading up to it! good thing the course is downhill.

also 2 x 20 75 lbs horizontal leg press, 60 reps 55 lbs toe raises. and all the miserable stretches and stuff for PT.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
13.100.000.000.0013.10

No, I didn't run a half marathon race, I just ran 13.1 miles in tribute to Paul Jon and Cody who were down in Ogden representing Cache Valley proudly. Me, I haven't run this far in weeks, and it showed. I ran the first 8 miles pretty well, then kind of pooped out. 7:30 average overall. 

Just to show my support for the fast guys slogging it out in Ogden, I ran from Prov to Millville to Nibley then down the PLANET WALK- yes- the famous PLANET WALK- a secret route only known to a few select elite runner (and then me). 

Foot a little sore- iced immediately after and had it and my shin wrapped tight.

I am going to make a fool out of myself at the SLC 1/2 in two weeks with my lack of training  but thats OK I guess.

Saucony Triumph 5 Miles: 13.10
Comments
From cody on Sun, Apr 05, 2009 at 21:37:24 from 67.161.250.22

Man! you ran a half AND included the Planet Walk into the course? sounds perfect. Hope your foot survived ok though, better watch that close. Sorry I didn't win, but technically I won my age group, so you could still collect your dough.

From redrooster on Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 14:25:02 from 129.123.3.31

yeah, I made a cool 300 bucks off that one since you and Jon and Paul all won! not bad for not doing anything.

I had to risk life and limb crossing highways 165 and 89 twice to make it to planet walk but it was worth it. I figured the route I picked would be close to 13 miles so thought it was pretty funny when it turned out to be exactly 13.1 from door to door according to my garmin!

From Jon on Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 14:44:41 from 138.64.2.76

Had you done Planet Walk before?

From redrooster on Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 14:56:35 from 129.123.3.31

Jon, not running, though my twins love to bike it. Right after they learned to ride bikes at age 5 we were doing it pretty much every day (drive down, then bike out and back). Haven't taken them down yet this year (they just turned 8) but will soon.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.900.000.003.108.00

went to last day of PT and cleared to do some real running again. ran 5 x 1000 w/400 recoveries on track and boy does my rustiness show. too fast first lap and then all downhill from there. got my work cut out for me. now all I am working for is a decent Bolder Boulder on Memorial day, I don't care about the half marathons anymore, just going to use them as tune ups.

times: 3:33, 3:39, 3:41, 3:45, 3:44. bad trend... but I was absolutely hammered. Tomorrow, back to the pool...

If I add those times and could run them continuosly  (ha ha) that is an 18:22 5K- which would be all right- and I am planning on doing a 5 K this saturday. But I bet it will be about a 19:30.

 

Mizuno Precision 9 Miles: 8.00
Comments
From Jon on Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 22:56:48 from 75.169.149.246

You may be the only person who tries to use half marathons as a tune up for a 10k.

From redrooster on Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 23:10:07 from 71.219.120.101

yeah, but just trying to look on the bright side of things after a miserable March- I am in poor shape, can't train maximally for awhile, I have a free entry to SLC 1/2 from a friend, and so as not to lose all my money dropped to the Ogden 1/2 from the full marathon. So might as well just enjoy them I guess!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.450.000.000.008.45

from usu up logan river trail with Carol Rowe. still alot of snow up there in places, I would have turned back but Carol kept going so I slogged on praying I wouldnt sprain my ankle. We had a good workout on the big hill coming back, I went out hard at the start but she overtook me at the top by the ranger station. Overall 7:37 pace including shuffling through the snow fields.

 

NB 1062 Pair 1 Miles: 8.45
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
3.140.000.000.003.14

"ran" in the stupid pool for 55 minutes. later I will run a mile with my twins to get them ready for the providence family fun run.

 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.000.000.002.006.00

USU track, I was planning on some 800s, but there was a student down there doing 400s so I ran some with her. She was wearing spikes so was obviously a serious runner though I hadn't seen her before. She was doing  80 second intervals with 200 recoveries and that sounded good so I ran her last 3 with her, then 5 more for 8 total: 1:18, 1:20, 1:15, 1:18, 1:20, 1:23, 1:23, 1:21. Short workout but good to air the legs out a bit.

I will run a mile with the twins again this evening. On our first run "twin 1" ran 9:47 while "twin 2" pooped out with about 200 meters to go. That is the problem with twins- a balancing act to keep them both happy and from getting all competitive and then being bad sports and mad when one does better than the other. So maybe I will run two miles, individually with each twin. The dog needs the workout too but he never gets mad.

 

Mizuno Wave Precision Miles: 6.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.000.000.000.005.00

tired today... just ran 5 easy with 4 strides. tomorrow Paul and I are going to run to benefit common ground, an excellent  program that provides youths with disabilities outdoor recreational opportunities. Several of my premed undergraduate students at USU have volunteered for common ground and speak highly of it. Race registration is at 9AM at the Utah State University  HPER if anyone is interested. There is a 5 and 10K starting at 9:30.

NB 1062 Pair 1 Miles: 5.00
Comments
From paul on Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 14:26:12 from 65.103.252.214

From what I hear, it's going to be one HOT 5K.

From redrooster on Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 15:16:28 from 129.123.3.31

cool!! I mean HOT!!!

I just hope I don't embarrass the blog too badly tomorrow.

From wheakory on Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 18:08:23 from 134.50.89.55

Trust your training and have a great race.

Make it fun and you'll do well tomorrow. Don't worry about the blog, we all support eachother.

Race: Race for Ability "5K" (2.9 Miles) 00:17:24, Place overall: 4, Place in age division: 1
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
11.100.002.900.0014.00

Ran this "5K" with Paul as a benefit for Common Ground on the USU campus. I will never be able to match the descriptive nature and elegant writing of Paul's race report, maybe the result of too many years writing boring technical scientific papers . My meager readership, if any, should refer to his blog for the whole story. I am not sure why they didn't use the classic USU 5K route, which is not a bad course, but instead they created a labyrinth of confusing twists and turns starting on the USU campus and then going into the Logan cemetary, where we must have made 8 or 9 turns, then back to USU campus. As Paul noted, the race was further enahnced by the addition of bicyclers, most noteworthy the kid who decided the four or five serious runners in the race would be entertained by his weaving in and out and around us. Since I wasn't wearing my CI (cochlear implant) I couldn't hear him as he decided to pass me on the first cemetary turn, running me off the "road" in the process. Fortunately I didn't wipe him out, he figured that out on his own later. I was hoping to run this thing at a sub 6 minute pace but my garmin said 6:06 when I finished. First "race" of the year for me, and I got one of those runner stitches after about 1.5 miles that kind of slowed me down. I was disappointed when I found they cut the course short due to construction as I would have made a push to bring my mile pace down a bit if I had had the extra 0.2 miles (my garmin said it was only 2.85 miles, Paul's said 2.9; maybe I cheated the corners better than him).

Good cool down run up Logan Canyon river trail afterwards with Paul, 7:45 overall, I think he was afraid he might have to carry me up the big hill on the way back to campus. Good news is river trail is now snow-free, unlike Tuesday when it had a lot of snow.  Well, hopefully Paul won't disown me after this one, I think I will let him suggest our next race... :-)

Asics Speedstar Miles: 2.90Saucony Triumph 5 Miles: 11.10
Comments
From Burt on Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 20:12:54 from 98.167.151.26

Great job. I hope you didn't trample any graves with all those twists through the cemetary.

From redrooster on Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 20:19:45 from 71.219.154.222

Burt, it was indeed weird running a race through the cemetary, I kind of wonder why they would set it up like that.. and another weird thing is, and I didn't register it at the time, the race course took us on one of the cemetary roads right by the family plot where my paternal grandparents and many other relatives are interred. Maybe they were watching over me?

From Jon on Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 20:34:21 from 75.169.139.217

Sounds like an exciting race. About what you would expect given the situation. Nice job taking 4th.

From paul on Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 22:35:00 from 75.162.222.44

Good times. I think we should go out to the cemetery again sometime and run intervals there, with 90-degree hairpins. It's good practice.

From Jon on Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 23:36:54 from 75.169.139.217

Paul, on top of the 90-deg turns, you forgot to include bikers weaving around you. That would add a whole new dimension to intervals.

From Burt on Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 23:52:04 from 98.167.151.26

And don't forget to dance and spit while reciting ancient spirit chants.

From Snoqualmie on Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 10:59:57 from 67.171.56.164

Congratulations on the AG win and a great race!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
9.500.000.000.009.50

Canal trail from USU to LC river trail single track and back. And my left foot just started hurting again. Great. Three weeks off, expensive physical therapy, dutifully doing exercises etc, orthotic arch supports at Dr advice, new shoes, mucho dollars spent and maybe back to square one. sigh.

NB 1062 Pair 1 Miles: 9.50
Comments
From Steve P on Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 21:52:48 from 66.60.123.236

Red Rooster,

Sorry to hear about that. So that means you can't run the SLC half? If so, bummer.

-Steve

From redrooster on Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 22:02:01 from 71.219.129.234

Steve, yeah, I am calling it quits for a while. I have a pretty irritated posterial tibial tendon so am going to just work on stengthening it with exercises and resting it with some non weight bearing cardio stuff like biking and swimming. I doubt I will be running again for several months but maybe sooner if I can get this under control. good luck in the half, I look forward to reading your race report. Scott

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.000.000.004.008.00

catching up for posterity- 4 x 1200 1 x 800. foot trashed, now I am a cross trainer

Mizuno Wave Precision Miles: 8.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.000.000.000.000.00

donuts and mountain dew

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.010.000.000.000.01

more mountain dew, more donuts. this is fun

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.000.000.000.005.00

pool running and kicking. kick about 600 yards, with short rest every 50 yards. cool down with water running 15 minutes

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.000.000.000.000.00

yard work

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.000.000.000.006.00

water running. 55 minutes, with a bunch of two minute intervals. whee

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.000.000.000.000.00

spinner bike, 110 rpm, 10 minutes easy, 35 minutes hard, 10 minutes easy. this thing kicks your butt

lots of strengthening and stretching stuff

 

I think Sasha Pachev is on to something here.....2000 miles in a pair of brooks T4 and he never gets injured.... interesting article below:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-1170253/The-painful-truth-trainers-Are-expensive-running-shoes-waste-money.html

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.000.000.000.005.00

kicking with a kick board. it is really fun. you just kick. tried some variations Neal Legler was doing but pretty much almost drowned trying to do things fancy. so I went back to my normal kicking. about 600 yards of hard kicking. it is a good workout. I have lots of new muscles and am looking buffed.

spent a lot of time compiling emails for my subpoena and deposition. pretty exciting- to be subpoenaed. I've never been subpoenaed before. I wish I had gone to law school and could have been a lawyer and made a real contribution to society by suing people instead of educating students and doing biochemical research

Comments
From RivertonPaul on Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 10:08:06 from 67.42.27.114

Sorry you don't have the same privilege I do of being a professional lawyer (prounounced li-ar of course.)

From redrooster on Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 13:50:30 from 129.123.3.31

Paul- hey great, and I assume you offer free legal representation to blog members right?? thanks in advance!!

From Jon on Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 14:03:48 from 138.64.2.76

What is the subpoena for?

From redrooster on Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 14:12:56 from 129.123.3.31

Jon, I would love to tell you, but lawyers are probably monitoring the blog, just looking for me to reveal confidential details of this subpoena so they can pounce on me and mess with me even more. just look how fast riverton paul picked up on this. So I will have to tell you over a bagel in person some time. But first I will have to be sure you are not wearing a wire, maybe hidden under your kinsei tape.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
1.500.000.000.001.50

went to the track to see how my foot would do on a run. 1 easy around track. no problem. tried a few pickups, started to hurt again. OK, so I guess that is it. No Bolder Boulder, the only race I really care about for the entire year, and I had an A wave bib to boot. I will probably lose my coveted status as a member of the Logan FRB running club, and it is just a matter of time before Cody and Jon take me off their favorites list, which will hurt even more. But I don't blame them. But I will be back. Faster than ever.  Just wait for first dam run this fall. 

Mizuno Precision 9 Miles: 1.50
Comments
From cody on Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 14:47:28 from 69.9.58.17

I dont use my favorites list anyway. I have a feed reader. If you dont make THAT list, you are doomed...

From redrooster on Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 16:01:16 from 129.123.3.31

feed reader? I see I am way out of touch on technology these days.

From cody on Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 16:45:52 from 69.9.58.17

I have one that interfaces with Outlook so that it appears as if it were a new e-mail. Everytime a new post is created for the sites I set up, I get a notification. Saves me time checking to see if anyone updated their blog.

I use Attensa River of News

Downside is it doesn't notify me when someone updates (could be a good thing) for a second PM run.

From Jon on Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 19:33:39 from 75.169.153.20

Sorry you are still hurting. And a wasted A wave at Bolder Boulder- darn shame. Maybe I can use it! But as long as you keep blogging, we won't kick you out of the Logan FRB chapter. Although Paul is technically the founder and President, so he would have to confirm.

From redrooster on Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 21:07:03 from 71.219.155.194

If either of you guys wants to run as me on Memorial day you are welcome to use my bib- I'll bet "I" would win my age group, but some blog lawyer might find out and tip them off in which case we might get subpoenaed for fraud or something.

I will see if I can get a deferral but if not I will just withdraw and keep my cool t-shirt as a souvenir.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
3.500.003.500.007.00

water running: why I have it: I hate water unless I am on top of it on a connelly concept going 38 mph in a wetsuit or drysuit. I hate being cold. I hate chlorine. I hate every aspect of it. If chlorine kills microbes, then what does it do the epithelial cells of human lungs as we breathe it in? 

But I managed a 50 minute workout before mylast class of the semester, 4 x 5-6 minute intervals with recoveries. Geez this is so boring and stupid. I keep thinking I should just run, I was inches from deciding to run the providence panda fun run 5K  tomorrow to defend my title (never lost that race since it's inception, a testament to the fact that no one else takes it seriously). I keep wondering if I am just being a wuss and should run through the foot pain, but the definite shin splint sore spots I still have tell me that whole tendon (which runs from the toes around the inside of ankle and up the inside shin) needs some rest. Hopefully non weight bearing stuff is not aggravating it as well but who knows?

Comments
From Jon on Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 11:51:35 from 138.64.2.76

Anything happening?

From cody on Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 11:58:00 from 69.9.58.17

Yeah, are you alive?

Quit whining and hit the pool!

From redrooster on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 16:38:02 from 129.123.3.31

Guys, I am touched that you remember me!!

Just sitting around eating donuts and getting fat and lazy. And rooting for you guys.

From Jon on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 16:40:58 from 138.64.2.76

I thought you were more of a bagel guy...

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.000.004.000.006.00

water run ladder 1 2 3 4 5 4 3 2 1 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.050.000.000.000.05

spinner bike 10 warmup 30 tempo 10 cooldown

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.100.000.000.000.10

swim kicking about 30 lengths

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.100.000.000.000.10

found out my daughter received the Thomas S. Monson Presidential Scholarship to BYU. that is better than running.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.100.000.000.000.10

studied for the AP chemistry test. Oh, I mean I spent the day helping my daughter study for the AP chemistry test

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.500.000.000.000.50

I hopped on my old chromoly road bike and knocked off a pretty brisk 27 miles, from Providence to my cousins house in Paradise and back. Got hit by the thunderstorn at Millville on the way back. 

Comments
From Jon on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 16:56:16 from 138.64.2.76

A year ago, there were some heated discussions about how to count biking miles- people were getting upset by bikers on the mileage board. The general consensus was 3:1 bike:run miles. Apparently you have a 54:1 ratio.

From wheakory on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 17:21:08 from 134.50.89.33

I'm sorry. It's too bad they can transfer your membership to another gym to use their pool for three weeks, or you may not have another gym where you live.

You could always do some air bicycle exercises.

From redrooster on Wed, May 06, 2009 at 02:13:48 from 71.219.149.110

Jon, yeah, I dont want to get banned by overestimating those running miles on the bike!

Kory, yeah, kind of tough with the pool closed, but I have found the spinner bikes work pretty well too, and I used the elliptical today without my knee hurting by putting a compression band on. Another week or so and I will start running again- bringing the mileage up real slow. I learned my lesson the hard way this time.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.000.000.000.007.00

50 minutes water running 5 x 5 minute intervals. they drained the main pool that has the deep diving pool I use so I ran in a corner of the stupid other lap pool, but it is only over my head for about 6 feet so it really sucked. no water in the main pool for 3 weeks. I am screwed.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.200.000.000.007.20

low on training options... so I hit the elliptical again. I found that the elliptical knee problem can be helped by a compression band below the knee cap. about 45 minutes with some 4 minute intervals at about 160 HR

 

 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
1.000.000.000.001.00

1 mile track 7:00

34 lengths pool kickboard

Saucony Triumph Miles: 1.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
3.140.000.000.003.14

20 miles bike. nice local squall up BF canyon forced me back.

 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
9.000.000.000.009.00

45 minutes elliptical

2 miles treadmill 7:00 pace


Saucony Triumph Miles: 2.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.000.003.100.003.10

biked to zollinger park, then ran the providence sauerkraut days 5K route just to see what i could do being so out of running  shape. 6:28 pace over the 5K, which is an accurate course, running about as fast as i felt I could. Then I tucked my beaten tail and biked home, all up hill the long way.  but my foot felt OK. I will try to put in 3 days next week of low miles  if I can.  If all goes well I will start testing whether the FIRST program works by following the training program for DN 10K, starting end of May.

Saucony Triumph 5 Miles: 3.10
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
3.500.000.003.507.00

I have found cross training does not help your speed.

2 x 1600 6:00, 6:03

1 x 1200 4:38

1 x 800 3:00

At least I can run without hurting. But just 3 days a week from here on.

I just want to get in good enough shape in the next two weeks to pace by brother in Boulder in the BB for his 50th birthday. I want to push him down to 42:00 which would be a PR for him.




Mizuno Precision 9 Miles: 7.00
Comments
From JD on Mon, May 11, 2009 at 20:41:09 from 32.176.174.84

Crosstraining may not help your speed, but it seems to have helped keep you fast!

Let me know if you figure out how to acheive your short-term running goal.

From redrooster on Mon, May 11, 2009 at 22:03:27 from 71.219.149.110

JD, actually those are way off from my 10K race interval times I need to meet my 10K goal. I have to run 4 1600s in 5:40 and 8 800s in 2:40 to be ready for a 38 minute 10K. So thats why i will just run the BB for fun. But I will be ready for deseret news in July, hope you will do that one, it is a great 10K to PR in, all downhill (but HOT, even at 6AM)

From JD on Mon, May 11, 2009 at 22:26:27 from 32.176.52.251

Good luck with the training. A 38 minute 10k looks to be within reach for you. I'll be giving the DN 10k and BFC 15k serious consideration this Summer. Thanks for the info.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.000.000.000.002.00

kicked in the pool 36 minutes, 38 lengths. i think i probably kick really poorly, i have no technique. but i am not chasing michael phelps so i guess it doesn't matter. 

Comments
From Steve P on Wed, May 13, 2009 at 00:32:19 from 66.60.123.236

Nice job staying with your workouts. Thanks for your comment on my blog and your vote of confidence. I feel like if I stay healthy that I will be able to reach that goal of qualifying for Boston. Glad to see you are running again, even if it's not every day of the week.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.600.003.100.005.70

ran my sauerkraut days 5K course again today. I managed to run it 8 seconds slower than last time, 6:32 pace.


Comments
From Jon on Wed, May 13, 2009 at 17:46:49 from 138.64.2.76

Where is the sauerkraut course, anyways?

From redrooster on Wed, May 13, 2009 at 22:20:33 from 71.219.149.110

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=490006

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.720.000.000.002.72

biked 29 miles 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.004.400.000.006.40

AM- sort of a tempo run attempt that fell apart due to a nasty attack of post 29 mile bike ride ... never mind you dont want to know. really you dont.

pm- father son campout up prov canyon. cutting marshmellow sticks for my twins with a schrade razor sharp knife. being stupid and not paying attention. result- a hasty ride to the emergency room and ten new stitches, and now i type with one hand for awhile.

and i shoul have run ogden today. just an omen or something i guess.

 

Saucony Triumph 5 Miles: 6.40
Comments
From Jon on Sun, May 17, 2009 at 16:16:21 from 75.169.140.132

I never knew that marshmallows could be so aggressive that you would need stitches from them...

From RivertonPaul on Mon, May 18, 2009 at 11:55:10 from 67.42.27.114

Keep getting better. What was the deal, about 5 wards had father's and sons this weekend, including mine (which I missed.)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.503.100.000.005.60

3.1@6:42

Saucony Triumph 5 Miles: 5.60
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.000.000.000.007.00

river trail entrance to spring hollow campground and back 8:18

Montrail Hardrock Miles: 7.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.000.000.002.006.00

8x400

80 seconds
82 seconds
82 seconds
82 seconds
80 seconds
85 seconds
81 seconds
84 seconds

Mizuno Wave Precision Miles: 6.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
3.000.000.000.003.00

Boulder CO, got some vibram five finger sprints and tested them out on a short run on a dirt trail. they are pretty fun, except the dirt was actually mud from all the rain so they got broke in and dirty fast

Vibram Five Finger Sprints Miles: 3.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.000.000.000.008.00

ran the bolder boulder 10K with my brother. not going to count it as a race report because I didn't race, I just ran with him for his 50th birthday, trying to pace him to a PR. I had an A wave bib but ran with him out of the B wave, which is the fourth wave and has a 44 minute qualifier (the A wave is a sub 38 qualifier). I was pretty annoying, egging him on and trying to push him, trying to get him to follow me on surges, bouncing around, we ended up finishing in 43:47 whcih was his second best time so we did OK. Had alot of energy left at the end so I ran about the same pace back to my bike near the start.

Foot and shin splint still aggravating me a little, now I am going to have to decide whether to quit for a couple months and heal them completely and start up fresh for the fall or try to run through this so I can do July 4 and 24. Upside of taking a couple months off is I can just go hiking and camping with the kids, which I prefer to do in the summer anyway, while I heal properly.

Asics Speedstar Miles: 8.00
Comments
From Jon on Mon, May 25, 2009 at 23:28:59 from 75.169.157.16

Congrats on your brother's almost PR.

As for the injury, you just have to decide how important the races in July are to you. Are they worth risking further injury and delaying recovery? Or is it worth not doing them and healing?

From redrooster on Tue, May 26, 2009 at 02:36:06 from 71.219.155.106

Jon, yeah, common sense says to just cut back and get this problem fixed right. I will most likely do that. I have a zion trip with scouts in a couple weeks, then a family cruise, and the twins want to go camping at flaming gorge, so I don't have much running time anyway in the next few weeks, so might as well take the time off. I hoped to take crack at TOU, but maybe next year. I am getting interested in trail running too- seems a little easier on the joints than the asphalt?

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.000.000.000.004.00

After reading "Born to Run", a kind gift from Rocinante, and seeing his initial success with five fingers, as well as Sasha, I have decided to put the barefoot running philosophy to the test. The idea is that high end running shoes are causing our injuries and running in a minimalist fashion will actually strengthen us and prevent injuries. What do I have to lose? OK- so I bought the vibram five fingers, got the sprint which has a strap. They are bright red and ugly. Breaking into this slowly- maybe two days a week unless my foot feels worse then I will stop completely. So here is data from test day 2:

4 miles up and back on river trail, with about 0.3 of that on single track to see how they perform off road. I am not brave enough to try these things on pavement.  The five fingers feel good, they are comfortable. I could feel the rocks under my feet but nothing painful. The idea is your feet get the input from the ground, with no shoe padding to interfere, and adjust/adapt accordingly, and without cushioning your feet and calves strengthen naturally. I was definitely landing on the ball of my foot, no heel striking. I counted my foot turnover at random points going up and down and found I automatically had increased turnover by about 12 fpm, from 180 to about 192. No obvious pain in foot, sore spot in shin did not increase.  If I feel OK I will do a little track work tomorrow in light trainers. I am ditching all the cushioned trainers for the bulk of this experiment I am performing, will only use them when (if) I can do long runs.I am just playing around for awhile to see what happens.

easy pace not really affected by the "shoes": up at 8:12, down at 7:35, I wouldn't have dared go faster than that. My guess is these are best suited for easy runs- which is what I intend to use them for.


Vibram Five Finger Sprints Miles: 4.00
Comments
From cody on Tue, May 26, 2009 at 22:37:29 from 67.161.250.22

I would think that the pavement would be better. No rocks..

From redrooster on Tue, May 26, 2009 at 22:44:39 from 71.219.155.106

Cody, yeah, I really don't know, but I figured I needed some kind of roadbed cushioning with these things so paid for it with the rocks. I wish we had some good dirt roads here. In Boulder you can run on dirt everywhere- which you know of course. I think my next five fingers test will be on grass, maybe just do laps around the quad? I see Sasha is going completely barefoot now- will be interesting to see if he does TOU barefoot.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
3.600.000.001.905.50

important update: just realized I carry the exact same brooks water bottle as Scott Jurek and also have the same protec IT band he has. Maybe a sign it is time to make the leap to ultras??

 

day 4 of rooster light shoe/five fingers running experiment.... 5  x 600 in asics speedstars with 300 recoveries. Thought I ran 6 x 600 but can't find a 6th lap on my watch (??) so I will count it as 5 x 600. who cares.  Ran to track and back on grass as much as possible, on park strips and cemetary, avoiding asphalt and concrete like the plague.

Splits: 2:04, 2:04, 2:05, 2:08, 2:06 averages out to 5:36 pace.

speedstars are kind of a lightweight trainer or borderline flat for mid range road races. no foot or shin pain to speak of. calves are really sore though, probably from the five fingers and all the heel raises I am doing to boost my calf strength.  tomorrow I think I will do a long bike ride as a recovery day.

Asics Speedstar Miles: 5.50
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.100.000.000.000.10

ummm... I rode my bike to work. and home again. and went to cub scout pack meeting. and helped my man-servant son mow the lawn. and whacked some weeds. that's about it. I also joined the group "barefoot ted" on facebook.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.003.100.000.007.10

track and band practice field. 2 mile warmup five fingers. 5000 m  tempo in shoes on track, 20:08, 6:30 pace. 2 mile cooldown five fingers, using a loop spanning track and band practice field (grass). five fingers are more comfortable on grass than on track, or a gravel trail like river trail. I will probably stick to grass and track with them from here on.


 

Mizuno Precision 9 Miles: 3.10Vibram Five Finger Sprints Miles: 4.00
Comments
From rocinante on Fri, May 29, 2009 at 19:00:06 from 94.197.113.190

Scott - Good summary of the barefooting thing. I need to sign up with Barefoot Ted's blog too!

I've just about put 75 miles on the 5 fingers on a variety of surfaces from road to trails to sandy beaches. At first pavement and rocky trails felt the hardest, especially pavement. Now they feel fine. Grass and sand are really nice but now I can run on the road without any real discomfort. I've been wearing the injinji socks for a bit of extra support but w/o socks is starting to feel good as well, even on the pavement.

The worst surface is mud because they don't have much traction there....

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.500.000.000.008.50

first dam parking lot to Spring hollow campground and back with Joe Furse, beautiful morning, lots of runners on the trail but we passed em all. we would have passed Cody and Jon too if they were going the same way, good thing they were coming down as we were going up. Joe pushed me good, wore me out, good run, perfect weather.

1st dam to single track: 2.62 miles@7:46
single track secton up, 0.95 miles @8:55
single track to spring hollow CG and back to single track, 1.38 miles@7:16
single track section down, 0.95 miles @8:50
single track to first dam, 2.62 miles@ 6:57
overall pace 7:41

Mizuno Precision 9 Miles: 8.50
Comments
From Snoqualmie on Sat, May 30, 2009 at 13:45:37 from 67.171.56.164

For a minute there I thought you were cussing. lol Good run today! :)

From redrooster on Sat, May 30, 2009 at 13:51:39 from 71.219.155.106

thanks! yeah, we have a series of dams up the Logan river, first dam, second dam, third dam. we even have a "first dam run" in the fall. My mother will be here next week for my daughters high school graduation, I will show her your posts about Richard Peck, she will like that!

From Jon on Sat, May 30, 2009 at 13:56:16 from 75.169.150.250

It was nice to finally meet you today and put a face with the name. Now I can justify having you on favorite blogs list...

From redrooster on Sat, May 30, 2009 at 16:06:49 from 71.219.155.106

yeah, and you guys looked good for finishing a 20 miler with no water! glad my spot is secure for the temporary future at least...we still have to do a run together sometime!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
3.000.003.000.006.00

1.8 mile warmup five fingers. 3 x 1 mile cruise intervals track, 6:06 pace, in shoes. 0.8 mile cooldown in five fingers

PM, hiked to Saddle Rock above Prov canyon and back with kids

Mizuno Precision 9 Miles: 3.40Vibram Five Finger Sprints Miles: 2.60
Comments
From rocinante on Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 05:07:19 from 150.244.37.67

Are you a cross training rooster or a cross-training rooster? Or possibly a cross cross-training rooster....

From redrooster on Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 15:05:16 from 129.123.3.31

I am thinking of becoming a cross dressing cross training cross in the lab rooster!

From David Farrelly on Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 09:16:39 from 150.244.37.67

Curious sartorial proclivities aside, I just ordered a pair of these - they are made in the UK.

Terra Plana

(hope the link works but if not they are the Terra Plana Aquas reviewed in the link I have over on my blog to barefootrunner.com)

From redrooster on Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 16:33:01 from 129.123.3.31

David, the terra plana looks like a great shoe, I checked the review and website. But geez they are expensive. The other thing that kind of bugged me about them is the implication on their website that parts of the foot are linked to wellness of body organs- see the picture in lower left where they show the points of the foot linked to bladder, eyes, tonsils, sinuses, etc:

http://www.terraplana.com/vivobarefoot_info.php

Man, I hate that hocus pocus nonsense, you'd think they would know better. oh well- let me know if the shoe hits those pressure points and cures all your ailments, then we;ll know the magic works!!

From rocinante on Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 05:48:41 from 150.244.37.67

Scott,

I hadn't noticed that but, yeah, that puts me off too. There is a lot of this alternative medicine type of stuff in the UK. I was mainly going off the review at barefootrunner.com. They are expensive but I am looking for some lightweight shoes to do the pilgrimage to Santiago in. The Nikes are just not up to it and to go without a backup for the Fives is just asking for trouble. I might even have to haul my Keen Wasatchs along as a 2nd backup - they are super comfortable but a long way from the concept of barefoot. I'd hate to embark on a 250 mile walk and get blisters or something after 10 miles. Plus with a backpack (albeit 15 pounds or less) I'm not sure how barefoot/Fives etc would hold up.

I'm a bit put off by the thickness of the sole, that they point up at the front and that they are bit heavy (comparatively). But the fact that the reviewer recommended them is reassuring because I think he does a good job - e..g., his review of the Fives.

I ordered the black ones though - the white ones look way too nerdy.

From redrooster on Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 20:49:55 from 71.219.120.27

the shoes look really nice even if they arent magic- I will see if I can pick up a pair on ebay cheap!

I think those new balance Jason was talking about might be a great trail hiking shoe- I actually ordered a pair, found them on clearance on Nordstroms web site for 44 dollars.

From rocinante on Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 05:23:42 from 150.244.37.67

I was thinking the same about the New Balances - maybe they would be good in winter too. I really can't see running to Smithfield and back in Five Fingers when it's 15 degrees!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
1.000.000.000.001.00

kicked 28 lengths in pool. I must be the worst kicker on the planet, as everyone else who kicks just dusts me. It is very discouraging.

Then I ran 1 mile on the USU quad in my five fingers.

My hike to saddle rock yesterday hammered me-straight up and down, hard on the foot. I cant believe my 8 year olds motored right up the mountain without a single complaint. They slid most of the way down on their butts.

Vibram Five Finger Sprints Miles: 1.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.000.000.000.007.00

river trail to SHCG and back 8:00 average pace.

Mizuno Wave Precision Miles: 7.00
Comments
From Kory on Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 16:48:56 from 134.50.89.33

Great run today. You have to love the beauty of trails. What type of elevations does this trail have?

From redrooster on Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 17:18:02 from 129.123.3.31

thanks Kory. the Logan river trail is indeed really beautiful right now, and I am trying to stay off pavement for awhile so it works well. This is a pretty modest elevation gain- 500 net feet from the start of the trail to the Spring Hollow Campground, though the single track portion in the middle takes you higher. you'll have to do it with us when you come down sometime.

From Jon on Sat, Jun 06, 2009 at 22:53:14 from 75.169.153.187

Scott- it was good to be able to talk to you today. Thanks for stopping by. Sorry I couldn't talk longer, but I'm sure we'll talk in the future. Have a good time at Zion's and on the cruise, and rest your legs!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
1.050.000.000.001.05

the rooster is back. 1.05 miles on the USU quad (grass) in the five fingers. don't want to overdo it or anything.

Vibram Five Finger Sprints Miles: 1.05
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
3.100.000.000.003.10

new shoe- new balance 790, recommended by Jason, a minimalist trail shoe, very light, low heel. Reviewed here by some local guy named Paul, he seems to know a little about running . I am following Dan Lieberman's advice- stay out of rigid shoes with big built up heels, run on the midfoot, take short rapid strides, land under the hip, not extended. Pretty much same as chi approach Paul suggested. I notice my stride has increased to about 190-200 turnovers by consciously using this technique with no real change in effort or speed on the easy workouts. keeping the mileage low and the surfaces soft for awhile. watching for foot/shin pain. 3.1 miles river trail in 22:18.

Geez, I now have more active shoes than Imelda Marcos had in her heyday.

 

NB 790 Miles: 3.10
Comments
From Predog on Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 14:37:07 from 75.165.246.29

Good to see you back at it. Those 790's look sweet...I hope they work out for ya.

From redrooster on Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 15:03:08 from 129.123.3.31

Joe, thanks for the note, the 790s are indeed cool. Paul's review is dead on if you read it. I actually like the response you get from them, though I didn't take them on the single track. are you running freedom run on the 4th? I wanted to but have decided to just lay down and increase a base slow and easy for the rest of the summer.

From Jon on Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 15:10:18 from 138.64.2.76

What size are your feet? I bought a pair of NB800 (essentially identical to NB790) that I have hardly used and may be willing to sell.

From Jason McK on Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 15:21:08 from 63.255.173.99

Nice shoe. The first week or so, I noticed my calves working more - I looked forward to this little burn, but it went away after the second week :{

From redrooster on Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 17:13:57 from 129.123.3.31

Jason- I have already noticed that calf burn. Lieberman says it is a good thing so I guess we are doing the right thing-and the five fingers should burn you good!! he really pushes those.

Jon- In new balance I usually have to go with an 11, though sometimes 10.5 will work.

From rocinante on Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 17:50:18 from 150.244.23.54

I am the same Emelda Marcos wise - today the foot felt much better and I'm eyeing the 5 fingers again. But I think I'm going to get the NB 790s and mix and match. As for calf burn, well, it is amazing in the 5 fingers, but you probbaly need to stick to softer surfaces than I did to start.

I am miserable not running but am finally starting to see some light at the end of the tunnel....

From Jon on Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 17:52:57 from 138.64.2.76

These are 9.5's, though they are very tight and fit more like 9's. Hmm, too bad. Or I guess you could cut the toes out.

From rocinante on Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 17:55:21 from 150.244.23.54

Jon,

they might fit me but I'm not back in the US (logan) until end of August...

david

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
1.500.000.000.001.50

few loops on the quad in the bright red five fingers. think I'm starting to get noticed and typed as the crazy professor who runs in the grass onthe quad in the weird "shoes". 

Vibram Five Finger Sprints Miles: 1.50
Comments
From Jon on Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 23:17:28 from 75.169.149.161

Did you still have Born to Run to lend out?

From redrooster on Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 23:37:15 from 71.219.135.124

yup. a great read- how do you want to get it? I can come there or you can come here, or something

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
3.700.000.000.003.70

3.7 river trail. uneventful until I came within a step or two of running over a rattlesnake in the middle of the path on the way down. stopped to warn a lady coming up the trail with two little kids. then I met Carol R. as she was running  from campus.

NB 790 Miles: 3.70
Comments
From Jon on Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 00:17:22 from 75.169.145.125

Gotta love snakes!

Like the new picture- I can actually tell it's you.

From redrooster on Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 16:09:15 from 129.123.3.31

yeah the old pic was kind of stupid, I put it up in frustration when I hurt my leg and couldnt run. I was thinking of becoming a professional water skiier but then decided maybe I am too old for that too.

From Predog on Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 17:39:20 from 75.162.207.195

I've done the almost-stepping-on-a-rattler thing too...tends to put new life into your legs for a bit. haha

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.000.000.000.002.00

two. quad. five fingers. 

Vibram Five Finger Sprints Miles: 2.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.403.100.000.003.50

back to the pavement for the first time in weeks. decided to continue the lieberman/chi running experiment by using my lightest, lowest heel flat I have, the brooks T4. I really love that shoe. So I did 0.2 slow then picked it up for what I intended to be a 5K tinman tempo, employing the chi running technique. Ended up easily running the 5K at a 6:33 pace, feeling at the end I could have gone on for several more miles at that pace. quite happy given I haven't done any speed or tempo work in ages and after time off. I am starting to gain confidence in the chi approach- it certainly did not affect my speed at a tempo pace. Question is whether the leg and foot can handle higher mileages with these minimalist shoes I am using, especially if I run more on pavement? I will take the mileage up slow and watch the leg carefully, but right now everything feels fine.

Brooks T4 Miles: 3.50
Comments
From Jon on Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 18:49:49 from 75.169.153.89

Sounds like a good plan- slowly increase your mileage in those shoes and I think you would be fine. It is the sudden changes that get us.

From Jason McK on Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 14:21:15 from 63.255.173.99

I've read a little about the chi running. Are you enjoying it? Did you read the book or watch the DVD?

From redrooster on Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 23:09:46 from 71.219.135.124

Jason, Paul Petersen suggested I get the book, I kind of read thru the important technique stuff real fast, but have yet to actually dive into it, or do any of the additional stretching, strengthening etc that go with it. Just gotta find some time to get into it, but the book looks good!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.000.000.000.004.00

four miles river trail 7:45

NB 790 Miles: 4.00
Comments
From Jon on Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 14:26:36 from 138.64.2.76

4 miles in 7:45? Holy cow, man, that's twice world record pace! We need to get you to the Olympics!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.570.000.000.002.57

7:38 pace around the quad and USU campus, looking stupid in my five fingers.

 

Vibram Five Finger Sprints Miles: 2.57
Comments
From Jason McK on Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 18:02:58 from 63.255.173.99

People love them!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.000.000.000.004.00

river trail 7:33 average pace

NB 790 Miles: 4.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.760.000.000.002.76

2.76 miles @ 7'25"

Vibram Five Finger Sprints Miles: 2.76
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.250.000.000.005.25

first dam to river trail then to single track and back. 37:08, must be about 7:11 pace. moving faster than I thought I was.

NB 790 Miles: 5.25
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
3.700.000.000.003.70

I was really looking forward to watching the Paul-Sean showdown at the freedom run, but Sean had to pull out, so I just showed up to harass the local bloggers and see some other friends at the finish. They started the race way late, I got bored so ran up the course to see what was going on, met Paul WAY out in front of everyone (no one even in sight behind him) just east of 165, turned around and ran with him for a quarter mile to make sure he crossed the highway safely, then turned around and was pleasantly surprised to see Joe Furse in about 4th place, so turned around and ran with him a bit, then just cruised back to the finish and joined Joe for his cool down. Finally met blogger Dave from Preston, he took second in my age group, nice job! The local bloggers all did great, wish I could have run the race, as it is one of my favorites, but I am still nursing the foot and leg so keeping the miles low.

After the race I shuttled Cody Paul and Joe back to the start and we also picked up some stray running hitchhiker  heading back up the canyon to his car.

Mizuno Precision 9 Miles: 3.70
Comments
From Dave S on Mon, Jul 06, 2009 at 02:06:53 from 4.254.228.174

Scott, great meeting you at the race. Hope you can get healed up soon for some of these upcoming races in the valley.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.250.000.000.005.25

my blog is boring. my quantcast numbers are dropping off so fast they may go into the negatives soon. 

NB 790 Miles: 5.25
Comments
From Jon on Mon, Jul 06, 2009 at 14:24:43 from 138.64.2.76

Dancing girls? Funny animal videos?

From paul on Mon, Jul 06, 2009 at 14:30:16 from 65.103.252.214

I look at your blog on 3 different computers into order to inflate your numbers.

From redrooster on Mon, Jul 06, 2009 at 14:35:03 from 129.123.3.31

worth a try. I need to take some cues from rivertonpaul, he has cool stuff like that on his blog! I guess the other thing to try would be to actually run a decent competitive race or two..... just wait til this leg heals.... when's that Nibley 5K anyway?

From redrooster on Mon, Jul 06, 2009 at 14:38:37 from 129.123.3.31

Paul- thanks, you are too kind- now I am feeling better. I am going to make you guys proud in the Nibley 5K- just wait!!!

From Jon on Mon, Jul 06, 2009 at 14:43:20 from 138.64.2.76

I look at it from 2 computers. Maybe I can fire up my laptop to give you a third, like Paul.

Actually, the key seems to be commenting on lots of other people's blogs, rather than being fast. Maybe branch outside the Logan blogs?

From redrooster on Mon, Jul 06, 2009 at 15:25:37 from 129.123.3.31

Jon- will do, I also need to get out of Cache valley and run some races to meet more bloggers. next winter I want to run the striders series with you guys if you do it. but bottom line- my blog is still boring, just like me!!

From Jon on Mon, Jul 06, 2009 at 23:36:39 from 75.169.155.188

I don't think it's boring. Dry humor is enjoyable, which is what I see in your entries. Same as Paul.

From JD on Thu, Jul 09, 2009 at 14:41:05 from 64.65.159.206

Just send the folks at Quantcast a $100 bill and watch yours numbers rise.

Good luck with your continued recovery!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
1.603.250.000.004.85

still experimenting with running in flats, per the advice I got from Dan Lieberman at Harvard, the idea of course being that modern high end running shoes cause running injuries due to the inherent flaws in their designs, they don't prevent them. The advantages of flats are obvious: light, flexible, low heel, makes running easy rather than fighting rigid heavy shoe coffins that have no movement. Whether I can sustain this at high mileage I don't know. But I sure like running in a 6 ounce  brooks T4 more than a 14 ounce asics nimbus.

Bumped my tempo run distance up a tad maintaining the same pace. Didn't get out til 10:30 in the morning and it was getting hot, but it didn't really bother me. felt good and foot is giving me no problems in this mileage range.

one mile warmup 7:30

3.25 mile tempo 6:33

0.6 miles cooldown 8:03

 


Brooks T4 Miles: 4.85
Comments
From Jason McK on Tue, Jul 07, 2009 at 18:38:31 from 63.255.173.99

Nice tempo pace - I am not in recovery mode and haven't gotten that pace in any more than a single mile...

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
3.000.000.000.003.00

it was a vibram five finger day. coordinated my bright red five fingers with my red halo bandana, I looked very cool if I do say so myself. Made a loop from USU down to the USU track and back taking advantage of all the open grass and park strips I could find. Carol Rowe, Paul Wolf and Tom Griggs were at the track doing speedwork so I stopped to show off my five fingers. They probably just thought I have gone nuts. 3 miles @ 7:26

Vibram Five Finger Sprints Miles: 3.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.000.000.000.007.00

threw caution to the wind and upped to 7, river trail to spring hollow. foot a little sore at the end, but I iced it fast. I really like these 790 trail flats Jason and Paul got me on to- I find it easier to negotiate the single track in them than in built up trail shoes like the montrail, because I get more response from the terrain and can adapt faster to avoid ankle turns. 7 miles in 54:50.

NB 790 Miles: 7.00
Comments
From Jason McK on Thu, Jul 09, 2009 at 15:51:12 from 63.255.173.99

I really like those 790s - I don't think I'll be using my Asic GT-21XXs much any more - comfy, but my legs adapted to the 790s so easily, just walking in my old shoes seems foreign.

From redrooster on Thu, Jul 09, 2009 at 16:27:09 from 129.123.3.31

Jason, yeah, the 790 is awesome, it is really comfortable, it reminds me of the brooks T4 but with a better sole for rocks. I hope they don't discontinue it or change it- which will probably happen knowing new balance!

From rocinante on Thu, Jul 09, 2009 at 18:57:50 from 92.41.46.216

Great job! I have to order some 790s before they get discontinued....we all seem to have developed a footware fetish.

From auntieem on Thu, Jul 09, 2009 at 22:40:46 from 67.182.145.8

Saw your comment in Sno's thread, and just wanted to say that, from all that I've read, you are taking exactly the right approach. The foot arch is an arch, and like the arch of a bridge, needs no support from below. I went through a stress fracture, orthotics, the whole works, and am finally just back to running in regular shoes, with less support all the time. Took a Chi Running workshop and made some minor modifications in my stride. And, I'm experimenting with the barefoot thing!

From redrooster on Thu, Jul 09, 2009 at 23:15:38 from 71.219.135.124

auntiem, thanks for the note, your story sounds eerily similar to what I have just been through (stress fracture, tendonitis, physical therapy with the experts telling me to use arch supports, more cushioning, heavier shoes, longer strides etc). Born to run was an awakening for me, thanks to blogger rocinante who sent it to me! I also got the chi running book but think I would benefit from the video and/or the workshop. But I think I have the gist of it. Sounds like a new revolution of sorts is underway in running, it is exciting to be part of it! I look forward to seeing you hit some new PRs and hope you stay healthy! Scott

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
3.050.000.000.003.05

sore spot on shin flared up a tad after my 7 miler yesterday... so just did an easy 3 in the five fingers. I think I am going to have to start incorporating some cross training or water running to supplement these low miles to get my CV fitness up. Then again I am enjoying the lazy summer.  I am thinking Carslbad marathon in January as a possible target race if my leg holds up. 3.05 @ 7:36

Vibram Five Finger Sprints Miles: 3.05
Comments
From Dave S on Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 15:20:44 from 4.254.230.188

A little cross training sounds like a good idea. Hope you can get healthy without any more set backs.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.700.003.800.006.50

tried to run some consistent one mile cruise intervals on the streets, shooting for 6:10,  with 2.5 minute recoveries. but the heat (got out late), lack of training, and lack of smarts (ran first mile, uphill, too fast) brought me down.

1 mile warmup 7:47

1 mile @ 6:08

1 mile @6:14

0.8 miles @ 6:16 (couldn't finish off the last 0.2 miles on this one).

1 mile @ 6:20 fading fast

1 mile cooldown


Brooks T4 Miles: 6.50
Comments
From Jon on Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 14:07:14 from 205.149.142.66

Looks like it was a fine workout to me.

From Steve Piccolo on Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 14:52:03 from 155.100.160.248

Yeah, that is still a great workout. Hey did you get my email sent to your USU account? No worries if you haven't had a chance to reply. Just checking.

From redrooster on Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 21:23:17 from 71.219.155.80

Steve, did get your email and will reply asap. sorry for delay, been off with the kids doing stuff and haven't been at the computer much- will write tonight!! Scott

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.000.000.000.005.00

getting a bit of cold feet on minimalist shoe running... compromised with the mizuno precision on the street, five miles from my house to road to entrance to Millville canyon and back (that's Millville not Nibley...). compression socks, shin wrap, ice...

7:30 pace

PM- went rock climbing up Logan Canyon with my lab students and oldest son.

Mizuno Precision 9 Miles: 5.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
3.500.000.002.005.50

1.4 mile warmup five fingers

8 x 400 intervals, 80 seconds each

1.3 mile cool down five fingers

Brooks T4 Miles: 2.80Vibram Five Finger Sprints Miles: 2.70
Comments
From Jon on Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 16:59:05 from 128.217.221.145

Do you do your repeats on USU outdoor track?

From redrooster on Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 17:44:43 from 129.123.3.31

yep. come join me sometime!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.000.000.000.005.00

5 easy

Mizuno Precision 9 Miles: 5.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.750.000.000.002.75

2.75 at Tony Grove lake. then I hiked 9 miles RT to white pine lake with the fam

NB 790 Miles: 2.75
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.500.004.000.006.50

came back from camping. tired.

evening- ran 4 x 1 mile cruise intervals in the dark (10 PM). running deaf and in the dark = stupid. couldnt even see my watch so just ran by feel but hit the lap button on the GPS for splits knoiwing about where the miles were. here is what the watch said when I got home:

1 mile warmup 7:56

1 mile 6:15 pace
1.06 miles 6:21 pace
1.03 miles 6:17 pace
1.12 miles 6:20 pace

1 mile cooldown 8:27

oh well.

Brooks T4 Miles: 6.50
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.000.000.000.006.00

6 @ 8:05

Mizuno Precision 9 Miles: 6.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.000.000.000.007.00

river trail to SHCG 7:51

NB 790 Miles: 7.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
3.400.000.002.606.00

1.4 mile warmup five fingers
7 x 600 intervals in T4s with 200 recoveries: 2:05, 2:03, 2:03, 2:04, 2:05, 2:06, 2:08

1.4 mile cool down five fingers

Brooks T4 Miles: 3.20Vibram Five Finger Sprints Miles: 2.80
Comments
From Ruthio on Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 02:18:07 from 97.117.6.98

That's so crazy! I had no idea that one of my professors would be on the blog! And, to answer your question directly -- I am in your 8:30 section of Chemistry, along with a few of my friends. I'm looking forward to meeting you! And running with you once I move back up...

From redrooster on Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 13:29:27 from 129.123.3.31

Ruth, great! I look forward to having you in the class and look forward to some runs. Joe Furse (predog on the blog) is a mechanical engineering major too, from Hurricane, maybe you know him? We have a group of USU faculty, staff and students who run together occasionally and meet for speedwork once a week. Neal Legler in our group just won the local sprint triathlon by over three minutes! Have a great summer and see you in a month or so!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.240.000.000.006.24

decided to check out the Sumac trail Cody tipped me off too. Never knew it existed, strange since my aunt and uncle live on Sumac, one of the last houses on the Logan River, 0.1 miles before the trail.  Now I have a great fuel/water/bathroom stop for long runs from my home to RT when I can get my leg healed again since I can get across from there.

6.24 miles @ 7:46 from my aunts house to 2nd dam and back. Stopped off to say hi to my aunt and uncle. My aunt mentioned she and my dad and the rest of the family used to use the same Sumac trail in the 1930s and 40s to get to the canal and Logan River from their old house at about 350 South 100 east, a block from the Logan river, north of the bridge they just rebuilt to expand the road. I believe they used to float that canal and the Logan river back to the house. That old house is still there, it is the red house to the right in this google street view.. My dad used to tell us a lot of stories of swimming in and floating the canal and Logan river. Kind of makes the canal disaster even sadder given it's rich history. I imagine that entire Sumac drive area was completely undeveloped back then as well.

 

NB 790 Miles: 6.24
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
3.750.000.001.985.73

A full fledged five finger workout, first time running intervals in them on the track. decided to test them out with 200s

1.9 mile warmup USU to track at 7:33

8 x 200 on the track: 36, 41, 40, 39, 38, 37, 35, 38 seconds

1.97 mile cool down 8:20 pace

Five fingers worked well on the track at interval pace. No problem running 40 second 200s. Calves are sore though.

After that I met with blogger Steve Piccolo who was visiting USU and showed him around a bit. I also filled a big helium balloon for his cute little daughter.

 


Vibram Five Finger Sprints Miles: 5.73
Comments
From paul on Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 14:53:56 from 76.27.122.123

You have pretty good speed. Those aren't bad 200m splits.

From redrooster on Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 17:14:40 from 129.123.3.31

thanks Paul! I have plenty of fast twitch muscles, I used to sprint when I was in high school, problem is sustaining speed over the longer distances, as I don't have much endurance! If I could figure that out.... and keeping my poor leg from breaking down... well, maybe I could quit my day job!!! But it feels good to loft out the legs, even for short distances. BTW- I am thinking of running DN 10K tomorrow on a whim- are you running it??

Race: Deseret News 10K (6.2 Miles) 00:37:19, Place overall: 107, Place in age division: 3
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.200.006.200.006.40

I wasn't going to run this today, as I haven't trained and am still nursing a bum leg, but I received my brand new FRB singlet in the mail Thursday and I was just itching to try it out. That, and I knew Jon and Cody were going to be coming down, and my old mission buddy from Riverton runs every year, so I called him at 4PM friday  and he got me signed in with 15 minutes to spare. And then I also figured, I'm 47 years old, and you can only run the days of 47 race one time when you're 47. And my son was marching in the Mountain Crest Marching Band, headlined as a marquee attraction, and third position in the parade, (yeah, see this link) and I didn't want to miss that, so it all made sense to run.


I've run this race several times so I knew how fast it is and figured even with the lack of training I could probably pull of a sub 38 to re-qualify for the "A" wave at next year's Bolder Boulder. Got to the start line kind of late, not really any time for a warm-up but oh well. Found Cody and Jon and some other bloggers- easy now that I finally have my singlet, ha ha ha, I am pretty proud of my new look (see new picture).

OK, so I lined up with my friend Mark, Cody, Jon, Adam, and then Sasha joined us, it was nice to meet Sasha finally, he had his five fingers on of course. I was kind of intimidated in that company, but having run this race I know not to get caught back in the pack at the narrow start so held my ground and hugged the right outside edge behind Cody and tried to keep a low profile.  I didn't bother to keep track of my splits, just ran fast on the downhills and tried to survive on the flats and uphills with my lack of training. The last push back up to Liberty was pretty tough as I was out of gas from lack of training, but I made it, pulling off a 37:19 giving me exactly 6:00 pace (averaged over the course).

I ended up third in my age group, and would have been number two if I had run ONE SECOND faster (NOTE- JUST SAW OFFICIAL RESULTS- ACTUALLY I TIED FOR 3RD, 2ND WAS ACTUALLY 11 SECONDS AHEAD OF US).   Adam, Cody and Jon did absolutely phenomenal as usual and local blogger Dave Scott from Preston turned in a very impressive time as well. Got some pictures of the group at the finish. Would have run a cool-down, but I suffered a HUGE blood blister on my right big toe into the forefoot, I guess the shoes weren't laced tight enough for the downhills, or the compression socks I wore for my stress fracture just don't do the blister control that smartwool does. So I met my daughter, drove to the parade route, and filmed the mountain crest marching band, then limped on home.

Overall I am glad I ran, it was really ideal weather for this race, much cooler than some previous years. I figure with training and a taper and a healed leg I can knock this down to 36:30 next year, I'll set that as my goal.

Brooks T4 Miles: 6.40
Comments
From Kelli on Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 15:29:08 from 71.219.89.21

DANG ONE SECOND!!!! Nicely done for your 47th year. I wonder where you can race on your 48th?

From James on Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 16:22:51 from 76.27.11.191

Good job Scott!

From Cody on Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 18:53:22 from 71.219.81.42

A very well-run race Scott! It was great to see you come in so soon after me. I had better watch my back. I hope it didn't aggravate the injury, all that downhill. Congrats on the many family accomplishments all in one day. If that one was good weather, I fear for the bad days. It felt like a sauna to me!

From paul on Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 19:01:26 from 76.27.122.123

Great job. 5-finger shoes were well-represented today.

From Steve Piccolo on Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 21:18:13 from 66.60.123.63

Awesome time, Scott!! Definitely next year you've got a sub 37:00.

From Jon on Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 15:07:43 from 75.169.150.167

Excellent job, Scott, especially given your lack of distance training. Speedy. Hopefully we can get together for a training run sometime soon.

From Adam RW on Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 17:13:54 from 155.101.152.103

Scott, Great to meet you in person. Great race!

From Dave S on Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 20:49:25 from 4.254.226.50

Great job on the race Scott especially so soon after your recovery. Hope you can stay healthy and see you at some more of the local races. Of course that always seems to drop me a spot in our age group standings. I guess I'm going to have to work at getting a little faster to give you a run for your money.

From JD on Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 21:12:46 from 32.178.206.141

Nice job! You'll "easily" get 36:30 on this next time.

From redrooster on Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 00:25:36 from 71.219.156.139

thanks for all the kind comments and support guys, I really appreciate it, this blog is great! It was great to get out and run with and meet some new bloggers. Now I need to meet Kelli and JD in person sometime, hope we can get in a race together. JD, you'll be here for the TOU half right?

From JD on Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 11:21:05 from 166.128.134.197

I'm signed up for the TOU marathon. Are you running the half?

From Snoqualmie on Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 13:46:48 from 67.171.56.164

Awesome job! Congratulations. :)

From Sasha Pachev on Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 15:21:35 from 64.81.245.109

Solid time. I think you can run a sub-3:00 marathon with good training.

From redrooster on Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 18:24:54 from 129.123.3.31

Sno, thanks, looking forward to seeing you get those five fingers !JD, yeah, I think I will try the half if my recovery continues to go well.

Sasha- thanks, that is exactly what I am hoping to do- break 3 hours- I think I was on pace to do it at Ogden this year until I got hurt while training and had to drop out. Now I am going with your minimal shoe/five finger approach and so far so good! I am only doing a few a week in the fives but I can already see the benefits. Maybe I'll run DN next year in the fives? :-) I am looking forward to joining you guys for a run when I drop my daughter at BYU! Scott

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.500.000.000.008.50

I was supposed to run a small local 5K race here today, but after my impetuous decision to run the DN 10K yesterday, I woke up in no shape to run anything, in fact I could barely move, and the blisters on the bottom of my feet hurt bad. So I got up and went back to bed. Then in the evening I decided I would take a crack at training for the TOU 1/2, which means i need to get serious about ramping up the miles fast, so I ran a very easy 8.5 from first dam to Spring Hollow campground via river trail. Overall pace was 8:49, I thought I was running faster than that but nursing my feet and with very sore quads and calves I guess I subconsciosuly slowed down a lot. Probably a good thing. then I took a page from Jon's book and drank two glasses of chocolate milk for recovery after icing my leg. The blisters are going to be a problem I can tell. My guess is they are a result of the fact that i ran those downhills yesterday on my forefeet, I don't do any heel striking anymore, and the stupid race yesterday was just too steep to be landing like that. oh well. 

NB 790 Miles: 8.50
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.500.000.000.005.50

5.5 miles first dam to river trail and just a short section up single track. 7:30 pace. 

NB 790 Miles: 5.50
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.000.000.002.986.98

interval workout, bumping up 200 meters a week, did 600s last week so 6 x 800 this week. goal time ~2:50 ish
2 mile warmup to trackin the five fingers. ran the gauntlet of sprinklers in the cemetary. They use more water inteh cenetart per day than I use on my lawn all summer.
interval 1: 2:52 not bad
interval 2: 2:52 very consistent
interval 3: 2:52, and got stung by a stupid wasp that flew up inside my shorts, he stung me on my upper thigh, man that hurt, stupid wasp, I hate those stupid things. What did I do to deserve that?
interval 4: wasp venom taking hold... pain... 2:57
interval 5: starting to recover from wasp bite, 2:56
interval 6, still 2:56. tired. and red bite and welt. stupid wasp.

0.75 miles back to lab. I did this on an empty stomach as I had a doctor appt. afterward for a physical. Hungry and tired.

OK, need to drop those times down to a consistent 2:50 before I step up to 1000 meters...

Brooks T4 Miles: 4.23Vibram Five Finger Sprints Miles: 2.75
Comments
From Jon on Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 15:21:34 from 138.64.2.76

I thought most people would run FASTER to get away from the wasp!

From JD on Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 15:24:09 from 64.65.159.206

Seriously, stupid wasp!

Nice workout though.

From Steve Piccolo on Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:19:47 from 155.100.160.248

Good job on the workout. Sorry about the wasp.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.000.000.000.007.00

the usual, river trail to SHCG and back. 29:15 up, 27:47 down. average 8:09

NB 790 Miles: 7.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.254.350.000.006.60

tempo run. I'll call it a SMW (small-medium workout)
1.15 mile warmup @ 8:00

4.35 mile continuous tempo. splits are:
1 mile, 6:42 pace
1.05 mile, 6:42 pace
1.07 miles 6:56 pace , over the new bridge on 100 east, through the construction, up the river heights hill, slowed me down
1.0 miles 6:34 pace
0.23 miles, 6:20 pace
averages out to 6:42 pace over the run, little slower than I would have liked but I can live with it.

1.1 mile cooldown 8:17 pace

route

Brooks T4 Miles: 6.60
Comments
From Cody on Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 13:00:30 from 69.9.58.17

Good Job. Hills slow you down but are good.

From Steve Piccolo on Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:53:16 from 155.100.236.52

Nice! I wish I could run that pace.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
3.000.000.000.003.00

short FFF workout- that is a "five finger fun" workout. around USU quads, through the cemetary,  stayed on grass as much as possible.

Vibram Five Finger Sprints Miles: 3.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
11.400.000.000.0011.40

from Crockett ave. up Canyon road to first dam, LC, river trail to SHCG. 8:08 pace up, 46:42; 7:40 pace down, 43:38. 11.4 miles total in 1:30:20, 7:54 average pace

left foot got a little sore at nine miles. iced it fast. still have that mild sore spot on shin, doesn't seem to be getting any worse, but I wish it would go away completely... debating running tou half for fun depending on foot and shin.

 

NB 790 Miles: 11.40
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.000.000.000.006.00

evening run 6 miles home prov millville loop up the big hill 48:00

Mizuno Precision 9 Miles: 6.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.000.000.000.000.00

packed the truck hooked up the fishing boat and drove to Carmel cmpgrd on Sheep creek by flaming gorge reservoir for some family camping

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
3.603.500.000.007.10

AM/day- boating/swimming on flaming gorge reservoir

PM- ran up sheep creek drive from carmel campground. 3.6 miles up at 8:10 pace. then turned around and ran down at a 6:44 pace.

NB 790 Miles: 7.10
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.600.000.000.0010.60

one of the dumber runs I have ever done. drove from sheep creek/carmel campground over to the dam, rented a raft and floated with the fam down to little hole. On the way back to camp around 6PM I had the bright idea to run the sheep creek geological bypass while my family drove back on the main road to camp. so I hopped out at the upper entrance to sheep creek road. I forgot the elevations on the loop. Started at 7690 feet. Climbed hard for 2 miles then easy for another mile up to about 8325. Then it was just a nasty 6 mile downhill shin pounding killer descent to about 6350 feet. I just took little steps and tried to protect my legs. dumb. Loop was longer than I anticipated. the "map" says 10. it is actually closer to 13. my wife came and picked me up after I had run 10.6 miles, 7 of them downhill and drove me the two additional miles to camp. soaked feet in sheep creek. appear none the worse for wear but it was not a fun run withthe steep descent. a better workout would have been to go the other way.

NB 790 Miles: 10.60
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.000.000.000.000.00

return from camping. tired. too old for this tent camping stuff. need a big RV with AC and a shower. too tired to run. and there is a lot of smoke in the air. I also return to find big dogs and wasps attacking fellow bloggers. planning to go rottweiler hunting tomorrow morning with a can of grizzly bear pepper spray. 

Comments
From Jon on Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 00:15:27 from 75.169.139.44

Yeah, apparently it's animal week in Logan.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.300.000.002.957.25

interval workout 6 x 800: target 2:50 per interval with 400 recoveries

1.9 mile warmup to track in five fingers, then switched into shoes.

intervals 2:50, 2:47, 2:48, 2:51, 2:58 (slow) 2:47

average 2:50.2

recovery 1.9 to work in five fingers

felt good, fifth interval was slow just due to not paying attention. next week i will try to drop them to 2:45 average.

I think I am ready to run a sub 18 minute 5K. Shooting for the one in Nibley, I just don't know when it is, maybe a few weeks. Then I will do TOU 5K and also shoot for sub 18.

 


Brooks T4 Miles: 3.45Vibram Five Finger Sprints Miles: 3.80
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.600.000.000.0012.60

a little further than last week, canyon road to spring hollow campground.

51:51 up

48:52 down

7:55 average


NB 790 Miles: 12.60
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.600.000.000.005.60

yawn.

NB 790 Miles: 5.60
Comments
From Jon on Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 08:21:46 from 128.217.221.53

Double yawn.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.300.000.002.957.25

repeat of last fridays workout, back on my regular schedule after camping last week.

1.9 mile warmup to track in five fingers.met our "newly-recruited to Cache Valley" blogger Allie at the track for intervals. great to have a new member of our USU blogging team.

 6 x 800: target 2:45-2:50 per interval with 400 recoveries

intervals 2:42, 2:43, 2:48, 2:45, 2:50, 2:50

average 2:46

recovery 1.9 to work in five fingers. Then Allie continued her big workout by running another five or so while I wimped out and went to work. 

Brooks T4 Miles: 3.45Vibram Five Finger Sprints Miles: 3.80
Comments
From allie on Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 15:59:42 from 129.123.246.38

nice job today. you smoked me on all of those. and the only "wimp out" today was me giving up on the 800s after #3 :)

great work and nice meeting you. i look forward to running more with you guys.

i will get back to you about thursday...still unsure about work.

From redrooster on Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 17:21:13 from 129.123.3.31

Allie, thanks, I had a great run today, thursday would be great for a tempo if it works out.

Also, if I had run a marathon two weeks ago I doubt I would even be doing more than four or five super easy miles yet, the fact that you are doing speedwork and hill work so soon after DN is incredible!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.000.000.000.007.00

river trail to spring hollow CG. the usual wednesday. 28:59 up (vs 29:15 last time), 26:53 down (vs. 27:47 last time) for an average 7:59 pace.

more on the five fingers debate here.

NB 790 Miles: 7.00
Comments
From Cody on Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 16:14:35 from 69.9.58.17

That reminds me. I have your Born to Run Book. I just finished it. Great book, gave me some serious food for thought. How do I get it back to you?

From redrooster on Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 17:03:19 from 129.123.3.31

Cody, no big hurry. you are doing TOU half right? maybe we can show up at the packet pickup around the same time and I can grab it then- I think it is friday evening the 27th? or in the morning before we grab the bus to the start.

From allie on Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 19:37:29 from 70.102.50.166

hi scott - sorry for the delay in getting back to you. looks like i will be going to park city tonight and i won't be back in time for a run tomorrow. someday i will stop traveling :)

i got the email from paul wolf. thanks for the info.

From allie on Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 19:38:39 from 70.102.50.166

great article on the five fingers, by the way. i am inspired to pull my back out and start running in them again.

From redrooster on Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 21:39:24 from 71.219.136.10

Allie, have fun in Park City, maybe we can get the USU group together at the track next tuesday, I will lobby Paul to switch the date, I don't think he'll mind!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.404.500.000.006.90

tempo run , Island area.
1.2 mile warmup 8:06
4.5 mile tempo: mile splits: 6:34, 6:41, 6:31, 6:37, 0.5 @ 6:43; 6:37 average.
1.2 mile cooldown 8:21

Brooks T4 Miles: 6.90
Comments
From Steve Piccolo on Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 18:23:23 from 155.100.160.248

That is an amazing workout! Nice job.

From redrooster on Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 20:24:49 from 71.219.136.10

thanks Steve, and thanks for the card too! I hope the research is going well, and I am looking forward to seeing you get a BQ at St George!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
3.500.000.000.003.50

just a short run on grass in the five fingers. used the zollinger park soccer and baseball fields. legs weren't turning over very well.

then I skipped work and took the family innertubing down the Oneida narrows.

Vibram Five Finger Sprints Miles: 3.50
Comments
From allie on Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 20:26:14 from 97.117.52.102

sounds like a fun day. nice five fingers run.

From Dave S on Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 22:12:11 from 12.174.32.2

Tubing the narrows. That's a blast on a hot day when the river is high. That stretch of road down through the narrows along oneida reservoir and then the bear river is part of my favorite mountain bike loop. Usually zero traffic in the mornings.

From redrooster on Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 22:56:57 from 71.219.136.10

Allie, thanks, I was dragging today though on the run. I'll try to do 13 tomorrow if I can...

Dave, the river was running high, it was a good day to tube. There were a surprising number of people up there, keeps getting more popular, of course 15 years ago it was a well kept secret but no more. The hardest part was holding my 8 year old twins together on their tubes along with me so they didn't get separated and strung out on their own. I'll be pretty sad if they dam up that stretch, it is sure a nice area. A nice perk you have living in Preston, certainly a great mountain bile loop!

There was some kind of runners relay going on along 91 and then along the 36/34, I think it was going to Jackson, quite a few runners and aid stations, any idea what that was?

From Jon on Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 23:02:10 from 66.255.187.114

http://epicrelays.com/running-relay-utah-wyoming.html

It's the Cache-Teton relay.

From redrooster on Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 23:37:37 from 71.219.136.10

Jon, thanks, never knew about that, looks like there was a good turnout from the number of runners i saw.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
13.500.000.000.0013.50

central park to spring hollow campground via river trail. left foot starting to hurt again. I just can't seem to shake this thing, it reappears when I hit the 12+ mile range. 

up, 53:43, 7:57 pace
down 50:28, 7:29 pace
average 7:43

NB 790 Miles: 13.50
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.600.000.000.005.60

first dam up river trail and a bit of single track. 22:15 up, 20:53 down. the five fingers are fun on the stretches that are packed dirt, but they are not so fun on the stretches with the gravel, which is most of the way, ouch.

Vibram Five Finger Sprints Miles: 5.60
Comments
From Jason McK on Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 17:54:30 from 63.255.173.99

I've only worn mine off pavement while in Lava Hot Springs - there certainly is a time for soles...

From Kelli on Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 18:10:26 from 71.219.64.200

OUCH, I am not sure you guys run in those things on trails. Nice job, though!

From redrooster on Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 19:43:06 from 71.219.123.203

Jason, I actually have never worn mine ON pavement, too chicken for that. Been doing grass strips, the quad, dirt to prepare my feet for harder surfaces. But after those rocks on river trail, I think asphalt has to be better than that!

Kelli- see you at the half- yeah!!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.500.000.004.008.50

intervals on the USU track, ran with Carol Rowe. 4 x 1 mile with 400 recoveries. target pace about 5:55. we switched lead on alternating laps to keep the pace up.

Intervals 1-3: 5:54, 5:55, 5:53. Then on the last interval I kind of zoned out on the last lap, and thought I had only run two when actually we were on the final lap. Carol came blazing by me with 200 to go, I thought she was going to run a fast final lap and I didn't follow. then she stopped and I thought she had shortened the interval to 1200. Then I looked at my watch as I continued and realized I had already run a full mile. oops. So I guess my final interval must have been about 6:03 or something, I could have run the 5:55, I just wasn't paying attention. I guess it is better to think you have a lap left when you are actually done than thinking you are done when you actually have a lap left. if that makes any sense.... good workout anyway, was glad to have Carol to help me keep the pace, even though I messed up the final 200 meters of the final lap.

Brooks T4 Miles: 8.50
Comments
From Steve Piccolo on Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 22:55:30 from 66.60.123.63

Awesome times! I only dream about running that fast on mile repeats.

From redrooster on Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 00:33:44 from 71.219.123.203

thanks Steve, I am feeling pretty confident on the interval workouts, maybe this barefoot running is making me stronger and faster? gotta watch that poor left foot though...

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.000.000.000.007.00

the usual... river trail to spring hollow. ho hum. sluggish up, 29:56, 8:33 pace
picked up the pace down, 25:36, 7:19 pace

average pace 7:56

NB 790 Miles: 7.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
1.605.200.000.006.80

tempo run. drove to central park but then found I had forgotten my GPS watch I use as a crutch. So I decided to run some of the first dam course hoping I could find the mile markers. But they have largely disappeared. So I finally hit one at mile 3. Time 19:28. Was happy I was running a solid 6:30 without my crutch. Then I saw mile 4!! 6:25. I am the man. I decided to quit at mile 5, but couldn't see the mark. So I ran the last leg in 7:50. I know I passed mile 5 and don't think I slowed down, so I will assume I ran 1.2 miles here at 6:30. Who cares anyway. Then I cooled down the  rest of the route and a little more. What do I call these- threshold or marathon pace miles? I think threshold is more like a cruise interval which would be about a 6:15. But hoped-for marathon pace is 6:45. So I am right between. again, who cares?

Time is a precious commodity right now with school starting next week, just trying to squeeze in a run when I can as I am now in panic mode.


NB 790 Miles: 6.60
Comments
From Steve Piccolo on Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 17:21:56 from 155.100.160.248

You are the man!

From Dave S on Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 17:53:11 from 4.254.230.191

Nice run! Isn't it funny how we get to where we just have to know exactly how far how fast.

From Jon on Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 13:05:55 from 128.217.221.71

I run on the TOU marathon course when I don't have a GPS. I know exactly where mile markers 17-26 are, even when the paint is gone.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
3.600.000.000.003.60

just a short five finger run around zollingers park.

my biggest concern now is the monster blisters on the bottom of my feet, in particular the big toe and sole of my right foot. The newest one blew open this morning, inevitable. Got em at stupid DN 10K, and they just keep getting worse. probably exacerbated by all the speedwork I am doing in minimal shoes and downhill running.



Vibram Five Finger Sprints Miles: 3.60
Comments
From Snoqualmie on Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 13:04:28 from 24.18.192.33

Moleskin?

http://www.ithacasports.com/drscmopl.html

From Jon on Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 13:05:05 from 128.217.221.71

Yeah, the downhill could definitely make it worse. I can't believe you've been fighting a blister for a month- maybe just pop it?

From redrooster on Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 13:16:42 from 129.123.3.31

sno- great idea on the moleskin, I wish I had thought of that before the DN 10K :-) I have been putting moleskin on off and on, it certainly helps, and probably could have prevented my problems in the first place. I forgot yesterday, dumb.

Jon, its actually a family of blisters, the older ones getting callused, but the new big one popped today on its own, and that relieved the pressure. I've always been prone to blisters on the bottoms of my feet so I guess I will survive. Kind of worried about the TOU half downhills now though, but not much that can be done except wear moleskin and keep em from getting infected I guess. Are you going to be back by next saturday?

From Jon on Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 14:25:43 from 128.217.221.71

I'm flying home tonight. And I have 2 words for you on blisters: Drymax Socks. Look into them.

From redrooster on Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 15:17:13 from 129.123.3.31

will do, I use smart wool right now, but have heard drymax are awesome.

I won't be running with your group tomorrow but maybe another time. Havent built the miles yet and cant handle the downhill in BF. I will just try to put in 13-14 as a last ditch effort to get ready for the half. good to have you coming back, I am sure the family will be happy!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
14.800.000.000.0014.80

got up and put off running as long as I could, didn't really feel like getting out with my blistered feet and not looking forward to a long run. bored with river trail so I just took off from my house at 8:30, ran up to Canyon road, through millville, picked up the TOU course, and ran out to the end of Hollow road  and back home the same way. There were a lot of runners comng down Hollow road, I then realized it was Jon's work running group coming down the canyon. There was an incredible wind coming out of the canyon this morning, if we get it next week we will be very fortunate.

I saw Jon, Cody and Allie at the junction of the highway and Hollow road, recovering from their run so stopped to say hi. Jon probably ate three or four bagels in the short time I was there.  I then took off and ran back home, including about a 3 mile continual climb back to the providence bench. I figure my 14.8 mile out and back is the same intensity as their 21 mile aided downhill canyon run with the 30 mile an hour tail wind.  Yeah.

14.8 miles, 7:35 average pace.

Asics Speedstar Miles: 14.80
Comments
From allie on Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 13:33:50 from 67.177.43.41

haha. you are right! we were being lazy today :)

nice work on the tough miles.

and yes, let's hope for that wind at TOU 1/2 and full...

From Jon on Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 16:22:51 from 75.169.140.152

Yup, we were definitely lazy today.

By the way, you only saw 5 people from my work club. The rest were just other runner.

From Dave S on Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 21:13:39 from 4.254.226.179

Nice run. Looking good for the half next week. How fast are you planning to go out?

From redrooster on Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 21:38:45 from 71.219.123.203

Dave, if we have the tailwind I will go out fast (for me), probably 6:20 the first mile and then try to start hitting 6:15s until I hit highway 165 (end of Hollow road). After that it all depends on how much stamina I have from this limited training regime. I could use the company, so if you are up for that strategy let's run together until one of us gets tired.

From Dave S on Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 00:25:30 from 4.254.227.63

Scott, that's about how I ran the canyon section at the Freedom Run. I was thinking around 6:20s but hopefully I'm in a little better shape than I was then and 6:15 might be about right. I'll probably be closer to 6:40s though after the canyon. We can start out and see how it goes. Take care of those blisters.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.000.000.000.008.00

I taught chemistry 1210 at 8:30 and chemistry 5700 at 10:30. The computers in both classrooms were messed up. Typical. Now I am off to run. I advertised my blog in my classes. We will see if my quantcast numbers go up as a result. If all my students check my blog I should get up to the 370 range. I hope they don't let me down.

OK, went running from work up LC and up river trail to single track and back. It is exactly 8 miles and I finished in exactly one hour and zero seconds. I can set my watch by this run, which I typically do within 20 seconds on either side of one hour.

NB 790 Miles: 8.00
Comments
From Snoqualmie on Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 14:09:45 from 24.18.192.33

Whoa, whoa, whoa... Is there a way of knowing how many people read one's blog?!?! Do tell. :)

My 12 y.o. is taking a beginning chemistry/physics class starting this fall at our homeschool coop. I am so hoping she likes it and does not get intimidated. She is very bright, but suffers from the influences that keep many girls from enjoying science and math. I myself, way back in the Jurassic Period, was told by my step-father in 9th grade that I was "too cute to be good at math." The pressure on me in chemistry was even greater - so dumb! - and I was constantly filled with anxiety even though I was at the top of the class. OK, end of therapy session... send me your bill. ;)

From Cody on Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 14:59:53 from 69.9.58.17

The only way to raise your popularity among college age kids is to be on twitter. sorry.

You could post extra credit answers or maybe a cheat sheet for a "suprise" quiz on here and word will get out pretty quick.

From redrooster on Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 15:28:22 from 129.123.3.31

Sno- it is the all important quantcast number right next to the St George running center icon. The higher the number the more popular you are. You are something like 115 so are waaayyyy more popular than me! My life's goal is to beat Cody and Jon on the quantcast chart, but alas they are just too fast and popular and out of my little league.

I hope you daughter enjoys chemistry. I hated chemistry back in high school, my teacher was horrible,I am surprised I went into it. I guess it was because of the family pedigree. I have encouraged my daughter to take the hardcore science classes in high school, she took AP calculus and chemistry for example. She scored a 35 on the science section of the ACT so it appears to have paid off. She starts school next week at BYU and is taking physics/engineering track classes, I am pretty proud of her!

Cody- you read my mind on the blog secret class hints thing, I was thinking the same thing! unfortunately I don't think doing that would be unviersity-PC, I better not get myself in trouble.

From Ruthio on Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 15:47:50 from 98.202.30.157

If my quantcast numbers go below yours do I get extra credit? :) And thanks for the shout out in class today... not! Haha I'll never hear the end of it from my friends in there now.

From redrooster on Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 15:55:05 from 129.123.3.31

Ruth, of course!

sorry about drawing attention to you today... but I get to brag about my students, right!! Winning the Bryce half and then turning down the 500 dollars- classic!! I am proud to have you in my class. we are going to have lots of fun this semester, trust me :-)

From Ruthio on Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 22:43:27 from 98.202.30.157

Hey I sent you a Blackboard message about Labs... I am wondering whether we need to go to them this week. If you'd get back to me asap I'd appreciate it!

From allie on Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 01:29:53 from 67.177.43.41

sorry, i know it's short notice, but just letting you know i can't make it to the track again this week...i'll be in class :) see you saturday.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
3.000.000.003.306.30

I forgot my shoes today and it was track day so I did my first real interval workout in five fingers. Paul Wolf and Carol Rowe had the plan, 6 x 800 but with only 1 minute recoveries. I was going to do miles but what the heck went along with the program. We ran a little slower than when doing 800s with full 400 m  recoveries: 2:57, 2:51, 2:50, 2:50, 2:50, 2:48. Good solid workout though short.

Then ran a 400 in 1:26 and a 200 in 43. Feet held up fine running on the track in the five fingers, but I found some new places on my feet to insert new blisters.  Two mile cooldown back to my office, by the time I got there I did not feel like running barefoot anymore.


Vibram Five Finger Sprints Miles: 6.30
Comments
From Steve Piccolo on Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 16:51:26 from 155.100.160.248

Great times, especially with short recovery. Pretty soon you might only have one blister, but it will cover your whole foot.

From Jason McK on Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 16:55:19 from 63.255.173.99

I find that after a while, I slap my feet down after my heel hits. Two days in a row and I don't want to run in VFFs anymore. If I can keep good form, I'm good for 35-45 miles a week in them...

From redrooster on Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 18:51:54 from 71.219.137.198

Steve, thanks, and I think I am well on my way to the one big blister...

Jason, I can only handle two days a week in these. 35-45 miles is amazing. you still wearing them for the half Saturday? Looking forward to hopefully seeing you there. you should be easy to find in the five fingers

From allie on Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 21:16:44 from 67.177.43.41

great workout in the five fingers! great splits with the short recoveries.

From redrooster on Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 22:41:12 from 71.219.137.198

Thanks Allie! Carol pushed me really hard, she likes the short recoveries on the 800s and miles, while I always try to get her to do 400 recoveries. I am glad I followed her plan today, a nice difference. looking forward to getting you back on the USU track with us when your semester calms down a bit. See you Saturday!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.000.000.000.007.00

7 really easy slow river trail to spring hollow. my calves are absolutely trashed from the five finger track workout yesterday. It is obvious that a five finger workout, though equivalent form an aerobic standpoint, works your lower legs much harder than when wearing shoes. Whether this translates to a higher quality workout and provides higher training benefits I don't know. I will find out eventually I guess, if I keep it up.


NB 790 Miles: 7.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.800.000.001.005.80

I think I am going to be really really sorry about tuesdays five finger workout.. my calves feel like raw hamburger. 

Oh well, I decided to run 8 x 200 as a final speed tuneup for my "crash and burn" half on Saturday. About 39 seconds each. 

Asics Gel Hyperspeed Miles: 5.80
Comments
From Dave S on Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 18:36:44 from 4.254.231.12

Hope those calves get feeling better by Saturday. My back has been keeping me from running all week. It's feeling pretty good today. Hopefully by Saturday it'll feel good enough to race and I don't end up a dns or dnf.

From redrooster on Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 19:39:23 from 71.219.137.198

thanks, and sorry to hear about the back, good to hear it is getting better (knock on wood), will be looking for you Saturday AM.

From Steve Piccolo on Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 22:48:52 from 66.60.123.63

I think you'vee reached your short term goal (to stop aging). 39 seconds running on hamburger is great.

From redrooster on Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 01:18:45 from 71.219.137.198

Steve, thanks, As I was running today I pretended I was racing Usain Bolt on my intervals, it made them a little funner. I think I will set a new long term goal to beat him in the 200 meters. All I have to do is cut my times a little more than in half. should be easy.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.100.000.000.000.10

absolute chaos at work today. no time to run if I wanted to. will just rest for tomorrow I guess. 

Race: top of Utah half marathon (13.1 Miles) 01:21:23, Place overall: 23, Place in age division: 1
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.000.0013.100.0013.10

I was nervous about this race, as I have only run twice over 13 miles since March, plus I decided to run in some pretty worn out lightweight flats, and wasn't sure how the leg would like that. My goal was anything under 1:23, and my original plan was to run at about a 6:15 pace down the canyon and then see what happened when I hit Hollow road. The plan changed quickly when I joined up with Carol Rowe, and she set a blistering pace down the canyon. Since she was going for the women's overall, I stayed with her to watch her race develop, and to see if I had what it took to stay with her. We ran in stride the first seven miles and came out of the canyon at a 6:02 average pace, along with the woman she was racing. Then they dropped me like a ton of bricks. I was pretty sure Carol was going to win, as she was pulling ahead, but apparently the other woman runner caught her and beat her by just six seconds. Quite an exciting womens finish, but I missed it as I was a minute or so back by the time they finished.

After the canyon, I was really out of gas, had bad stomach cramps, and just ran on sheer will power. But I don't think I got passed by anyone and did manage to pick off a few people, so I guess I wasn't doing too bad.  I struggled on the hills, but once I turned onto 200 west I was on my home turf and that gave me the energy to pick it up. I looked back behind me with about a quarter mile to go, and there was a  younger guy bearing down on me, so I cranked it up as fast as I could and managed to outkick him at the end, which felt good. My leg seemed to hold up fine though my calves are pretty trashed.

There was some confusion with some of the posted times right after the finish, and they kept getting changed, which was weird. I forgot to stop my watch when I came through the chute, and stopped it probably 20 seconds after I finished, after taking off my chip, and it read 1:21:45 at that time. The official time that is posted at milliseconds is different than what they had for me initially on the preliminary results and at the awards, but now appears correct based on what my watch said (the official time says 1:21:23, consistent with my ~20 second lag in stopping my watch). I'm glad they got that sorted out, I worked hard for this time, and it is a half marathon PR for me.

Didn't get a chance to see as many of the bloggers as I hoped to, with a hectic schedule after the race as well, but did talk to Allie, Dave, Paul and Cody at the start. Dave ran a great race finishing in the top 3 in our age group. My wife got some good pictures of Jon, Paul and Cody coming in, I will have to send them proofs along with instructions on how to order copies if they want them.... maybe I will release the copyrights for a bagel or two.

LATE ADDITION- great local news write up on the race, with great comments by Jon Allen, and a nice coverage of the amazing women's race. Great to see Carol's picture in the paper too. See this link if interested.

Brooks T4 Miles: 13.10
Comments
From Jason McK on Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 02:12:03 from 97.117.52.182

Congrats on a nice race! Way to PR.

From Jon on Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 09:44:09 from 75.169.148.99

Scott, you seem to run amazing off limited training- how do you do it? A PR plus winning your age group- big congrats.

From redrooster on Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 11:48:43 from 71.219.137.198

Jason and Jon, thanks! And Jon, thanks, that means a lot to an old guy like me coming from you. I think my current improvements are due to my new running attitude, really inspired by McDougall's book, as well as the inspiration I get from this great blog. I had been running more tentatively in my old age, afraid to get hurt or crash, and was rigorously following training plans and then limiting myself to the predicted times from those. Now I am just going out and having fun and not worrying as much anymore about meeting particular goals or times, and I am just training like I feel like training. And having Carol to carry me really was the key to today's race. Now I am excited to train for a marathon again, wish I could be in shape in time for TOU but I know my limits there! I will be at the finish to watch you guys come in.

From Burt on Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 13:34:27 from 98.167.151.26

Great race rooster. Glad the 12 year old didn't beat you!

From Jon on Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 14:40:08 from 75.169.148.99

Glad to hear you are more relaxed and more successful. Yes, you probably don't want to try a marathon off limited training- good choice. But I'm sure you'll be there soon enough.

From Kelli on Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 15:03:56 from 71.219.64.200

Nice job and congrats on the PR!!!

From allie on Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 15:17:08 from 67.177.43.41

great race and a nice PR! well done.

From paul on Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 15:43:04 from 75.162.205.122

Great job on the PR. See, I told you 1:21 was doable! Congrats also on winning your age group...and were you 2nd masters overall too?

From Adam RW on Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 16:09:24 from 98.202.223.65

Scott, Sorry we didn't get to touch bases this race. I saw you but only in passing. Thanks for sending the pictures. Hope to see you at the full in a few weeks.

From redrooster on Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 17:40:45 from 71.219.137.198

Paul, thanks, and thanks again for encouraging me to go after the 1:21. I wouldn't have gone that fast if you hadn't told me I could at the packet pickup. They only went one deep on the masters, but I would have been second there I guess, but hte age group first place trophies were nicer anyway so I was happy with that.

Burt- the 12 year old kid was incredible. He actually was in front of me for awhile, then I passed him with about 3 or 4 to go and encouraged him as I went by. He was way cool, smiling and waving, just having a great time. What a cool kid with a bright running future.

From Dave S on Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 18:22:36 from 4.254.228.85

Great race Scott! Wish I could have kept up. Wow 6:02 average down the canyon. No wonder I fell back. I'm glad they got your times and placing straightened out. Looks like they finally got it right. Congrats on the age group win and second overall masters in a race that big is pretty darn good.

From Steve Piccolo on Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 19:35:51 from 97.112.254.49

Unbelievable, Scott! That's an incredible time. 6:02 pace? You're almost convincing me to try barefoot running now. Congratulations on a great race. Keep up the great work.

From JD on Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 22:09:23 from 209.183.51.47

Great job! Congrats on the AG win too.

From Cody on Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 23:42:26 from 67.161.250.22

Nice Job Scott! You really ran well and now have a nice trophy to prove it! Not bad for jumping into the race with short notice. Stay injury free and you will continue to tick off the PR's.

When you are ready to go after the marathon PR, let me know and I will try and pace you to a good race.

From Mattrow on Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 09:41:31 from 138.64.2.76

Nice race, You looked strong right from the start.

From redrooster on Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 16:07:05 from 129.123.3.31

thanks for the kind comments! Cody- thanks, that would be great, I am now thinking of doing Mesquite on November 21. I would love to join you for some training runs to get ready. Maybe as I ramp up the next few weeks I will overlap with your taper, what are you guys looking to do on Saturday?

From Burt on Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 16:08:56 from 68.76.197.194

I'm thinking about doing Mesquite, too. Who else is doing it?

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.000.000.000.008.00

back to the grind after a fun Saturday. Now I am thinking of signing up for the new Mesquite marathon, it will be held at just the right time for me to train properly. Will wait and watch the leg for a few long runs to be sure.

Ran from my office to RT up to single track and back. two minutes and 47 seconds slower than last week. oh well. body feels OK overall. thinking of running intervals in five fingers again tomorrow.

NB 790 Miles: 8.00
Comments
From Cody on Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 18:07:07 from 69.9.58.17

Uhh, I may have to edit my offer to pace you. I will likely not be doing much running this fall (after TOU). Therefore, I will not be any help unless the race is say next year. Sorry.

I bet you wont need any help though to bust the 3 hour (and maybe the 2:50 as well) barrier. Maybe I should edit my post to read: "I can (weather and mood permitting) pace you for 1/4 mile to 1/2 marathon distance if the race is held during the short season that I am in shape and is within 100 miles of home (or if you are willing to provide travel and hotel reimbursement for my family to a location of their choosing)." Not too enticing anymore, huh? Maybe I could run with you for the wellsville race and call it good...

From redrooster on Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 18:51:27 from 129.123.3.31

Cody, yeah, thats what you get for not thinking I would take you up on it!

But thanks anyway, and you deserve a break, so take a well-deserved one! I know what I have to do to get a BQ so I am good to go. I don't really even care if I PR if I do Mesquite. My brother wants me to run Boston with him next spring as he is 50, so all I need is a sub 3:30. I could do that right now at TOU, but I don't want to risk getting hurt. I am hoping to run Mesquite in just under 3 hours. Then I am going to try to run Boston in 2:55. then I too will take a break if the plan holds up!

Look forward to hopefully seeing you guys saturday.

From allie on Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 01:23:07 from 67.177.43.41

scott - i once again won't be at the track tomorrow. too risky. looks like paul and carol are taking it easy tomorrow as well (just read the email). sorry to burden you with that silly AG trophy. thanks for snagging it though, i really appreciate it. i left the race in a rush and didn't think twice about it. just let me know when the best time is to come get it. i am on campus virtually all day on tuesdays and thursdays. and about the theraband, yes i have one now...no, i have no idea what to do with it :)

very cool about the mesquite marathon. you are starting on a very good base so it should go well for you.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
3.200.000.003.006.20

for some reason none of my training partners showed up at the track today. go figure. well, I decided to repeat last weeks workout: 6 x 800 in the five fingers with short recoveries (in this case 200). I ran as fast as I could but I obviously was still feeling the effects of Saturdays effort.

2:53, 2:52, 2:54, 2:58, 2:57, 3:01

That was as tough a workout as I can remember. Combination of the five fingers and only a 3 day recovery I guess.

Vibram Five Finger Sprints Miles: 6.20
Comments
From Jon on Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 13:52:42 from 138.64.2.76

I've learned to bump my first post-race workout to Wed, min, after a race like TOU 1/2. Too much residual fatigue on Tuesday to get a good workout.

From redrooster on Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 16:09:05 from 71.219.137.198

yes, I think in retrospect that is good advice. oh well, it is in the bag now, and I am a better person for it. i guess...

From rocinante on Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 18:14:50 from 129.123.67.48

Good work with the Fives. I signed up for the Mesquite - don't expect to do that great but it's incentive.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.000.000.000.007.00

really tired.

NB 790 Miles: 7.00
Comments
From Mattrow on Thu, Sep 03, 2009 at 11:12:29 from 138.64.2.76

I couldn't believe you were able to do a speed workout yesturday. Your legs should be tired. I am just wondering when my legs will recover.

From redrooster on Thu, Sep 03, 2009 at 15:12:49 from 129.123.3.31

I am glad I am not the only one with tired legs! I am just forcing myself to slog on... it was a tough race for sure!!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.505.200.000.007.70

I continue to punish my poor weak recovering body. Kind of a tinman tempo thing today. about 5.2 miles at temp pace down on the island.
1.25 mile warmup
mile 1, 6:33 pace
mile 2, 6:41 pace
mile 3, 6:30 pace
mile 4, 6:35 pace
mile 5, 6:42 pace
0.23 miles at 6:43 pace.
1.2 mile cooldown


Asics Gel Hyperspeed Miles: 7.70
Comments
From allie on Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 21:25:27 from 129.123.26.13

punishment is good! within reason of course. great running.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
3.000.000.000.003.00

three easy FF about 8 minute pace

Vibram Five Finger Sprints Miles: 3.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
16.100.000.000.0016.10

home to Millville and out the TOU course, about a half mile or so up BF canyon and back. stopped and said hi to Cody and Paul on Hollow Road. they looked good in their matching running outfits. I wonder whether they planned that or it was just a coincidence?

 7:45 average pace. I don't enjoy having to finish this run with three miles of continuous uphill.

Asics Speedstar Miles: 16.10
Comments
From Cody on Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 12:13:11 from 67.161.250.22

I called Paul and we coordinated. We look like brothers then...

From Jon on Sun, Sep 06, 2009 at 00:48:12 from 198.60.103.104

What were they wearing? I can just picture the cute couple in my mind...

Race: Wellsville Founders day 5K (3.1 Miles) 00:17:53, Place overall: 4, Place in age division: 1
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.400.003.100.007.50

Wellsville does a good job putting on races, and the course is accurate, so I decided to ues this to break 18 minutes in the 5K. The course follows the Wellsville Biathlon run course, adding an additional 0.6 miles. Rolling hills, nothing major, very nice course. Keith Anderson ran the 10K so I didn't get to race him today. So I picked Jason Miller at the start as the guy to race. Jason beat me by 2 minutes last week at the TOU half so I was looking to get even today. Jason took off fast and I hung back a bit. I ran the first mile at about a 5:45 pace, passing a bunch of over enthusiastic fast starters, then caught Jason at about mile 1. We looked at each other, then paced off each other the rest of the race. We were racing for 3rd place, two fast younger guys were way out in front of us. I knew it was going to come down to a sprint at the finish and it did. Unfortunately for me, I didn't have the fire to finish it, and he beat me across the finish by a second or two. So I missed the "money" by 2 seconds. The story of my life. Well, Jason is 10 years younger, and won the Wellsville Biathlon this year,  so that is some consolation to me. Good news is I met my goal of breaking 18 minutes, which I haven't done in a long time, so was happy with that. After the race I re-ran the course with Carol Rowe to cool down. Then went home and changed the oil on my daughter's car. 

Asics Gel Hyperspeed Miles: 7.50
Comments
From Snoqualmie on Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 13:50:18 from 24.18.192.33

Congratulations on breaking 18. That must be a great feeling.

From JD on Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 19:48:19 from 166.183.32.95

Nice job. You're looking strong!

From Burt on Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 20:20:00 from 98.167.151.26

Way to go Rooster! That's some good speed.

From Cody on Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 22:58:55 from 67.161.250.22

You are in good company to give Jason a battle. Well done!

From Jon on Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 23:05:54 from 75.169.140.144

Yes, congrats on your sub-18 goal.

From redrooster on Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 12:22:35 from 129.123.3.31

hey thanks for the nice comments, support and encouragement! this blog is really great, it's amazing how the info and support I have gotten here has resulted in faster race times and more confidence. great to have a community of fellow runners to hang out with and learn from!!

Oh, and Cody, my guess is Jason could have dropped me anytime he wanted too. He was just running a fast tempo to get ready for TOU, and it was nice we both were running the same pace. He is fun to run with. we even had the same shirts on, the same ones you and Paul had when I saw you last week, so we sort of looked like twins too.

From Dave S on Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 12:59:06 from 4.254.231.223

Nice job Scott! You seem to just keep getting faster. Congrats on breaking 18.

From Steve Piccolo on Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 14:07:28 from 155.100.161.11

Congratulations, Scott! I wish I could do that!

From Kelli on Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 14:13:24 from 71.219.97.42

Nice job on breaking 18!!! Super impressive, it is always hard for me to believe times like that miss the money!

From paul on Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 14:59:37 from 76.27.122.123

Great job Red, nice to see you under 18.

From redrooster on Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 18:36:28 from 129.123.3.31

Thanks!! sub 18 was a great hurdle to clear and gives me some confidence for a (hopefully) 37 minute 10K.

Kelli, I don't think I will quit my day job yet, no matter what I do some young fast guys always seem to spoil my attempts at fame and glory and money...guys like Paul... but he's a pretty good coach. I only ran this fast because he told me I could. I'm now waiting for his instructions for my next race....

From Kelli on Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 19:17:21 from 71.219.97.42

I wonder what he will say? If Paul says it, it is. I like that mentality.

From redrooster on Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 19:39:51 from 71.219.136.195

yeah, I pretty much do what Paul tells me to. He told me I could run TOU half in 1:21 so I did. The next thing I get to do is help him move on Thursday, a small price to pay for expert coaching.

From Kelli on Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 22:37:00 from 71.219.97.42

I wonder how much I would have to PAY Paul to tell me I still can run St George in 3:16???

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.000.000.000.008.00

work to river trail to single track and back, 7:40 average. little sore but not too bad.

NB 790 Miles: 8.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.500.000.001.005.50

my week is all messed up, and little time to do anything, so a quick FF workout, including 8 x 200 on the track, about 40 second reps. just trying to strengthen my feet with two days of FF running per week. tomorrow I will try some kind of MW. I am too weak for a BW, but a MW is better than a SW.

 

Vibram Five Finger Sprints Miles: 5.50
Comments
From Jon on Wed, Sep 09, 2009 at 16:55:31 from 138.64.2.76

Were you interested in coming to my work club run?

From redrooster on Wed, Sep 09, 2009 at 17:49:16 from 129.123.3.31

Jon, just replied to your email about the long run...

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
3.055.702.000.0010.75

MBW work out, Providence/River Heights. 1 mile warmup. then 5.7 miles tempo at 6:31 average pace. then 0.8 miles easy. then 4 x 0.5 miles: 2:59, 2:57, 3:00, 2:56. then 0.75 mile cooldown.

Asics Gel Hyperspeed Miles: 10.75
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.300.000.001.005.30

five fingers, work to track, 8 x 200 about 39-40 seconds and back to office.

Vibram Five Finger Sprints Miles: 5.30
Comments
From allie on Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 19:13:00 from 129.123.26.66

nice workout. i have some nice blisters from my FF run last week. i really should wear them more often. are you coming to jon's work club run tomorrow?

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
18.000.000.000.0018.00

Ryans place park in River Heights to mouth of BF canyon and back along TOU course. 18 miles @ 7:33 average pace. Wore a pair of neutral 6 ounce asics racing flats. No problems, thereby proving to myself that my previous foot problems were caused by the heavy cushioned shoes the so-called "shoe experts" told me to wear.

 

Asics Gel Hyperspeed Miles: 18.00
Comments
From Jon on Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 14:21:20 from 75.169.155.86

We waved to you while you were on the hwy, but you didn't see us.

From redrooster on Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 18:01:30 from 71.219.149.75

Jon, I was looking for you guys on Hollow road, I saw some cars but no people. I was ready for a glass of sunny-D on my way back too, bummer.

From allie on Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 23:59:26 from 67.161.243.158

i saw you as well, heading toward hollow road. looked like you had a nice pace going. great run. are you running the 5K next weekend?

From Cody on Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 00:22:55 from 67.161.250.22

Do you want to pace me the last 10K? Piece of cake right? I will be in death march mode...

From redrooster on Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 19:38:21 from 129.123.67.87

Allie, yeah I will do the 5K, feeling guilty that i am not out the slogging through the whole thing. But I am still planning for Mesquite if my leg holds up.

Cody- that would be fun, and an honor- but do you think I could keep up with you? what kind of pace are you looking for that last 6 miles? I am assuming you will be running around 6:15, right? I will probably jog back up the course after the 5K and will be happy to give it a shot!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.000.000.000.008.00

NB 790 Miles: 8.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.800.000.004.008.80

first time doing mile intervals on the track in the five fingers. 4 x 1 mile with 400 recoveries. intervals were: 5:43, 5:46, 5:47, 5:44. I am going to do all my track work in five fingers from now on

Vibram Five Finger Sprints Miles: 8.80
Comments
From JD on Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 14:28:17 from 64.65.159.206

Hey Rooster. Glad to see the VFF's are working out for you.

It turns out I'll be in Logan to pick up my packet Friday Eve. (staying at Paul Peterson's house, Smithfiled). So I'll know my bib#. I won't have a computer with me though, so I don't know how to get that info to you. I do know I'll be wearing a dark gray t, black shorts, yellow shoes, either eyeglasses or sunglasses, and I'm currently sporting a goatee and a short beard. If you're still hanging out by the time I finish (3:45 is the goal), it would be great if you kicked my butt across the finish line.

From redrooster on Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 15:37:31 from 129.123.3.31

JD, sounds good. you are always welcome to stay at my place too for local races if the Paul hotel is full. Maybe I will see you at the packet pickup too, I usually show up just for fun. And Hotel Paul has computer access so you can email me with your bib number.

I may run in with Cody in which case I will probably be completely trashed on Saturday. I will see if he really wants me to, he may just be joking as it is kind of stupid to think an old guy like me could pace a young guy like him in. But if I hobble him when I meet him I could do it, maybe I will slip him some ribs and corn dogs and a big blizzard shake to eat.. will let you know....

From Nan Kennard on Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 16:22:02 from 174.51.250.151

Wow, that is a great workout! And in five fingers, no less! Nice.

From Paul on Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 16:25:20 from 76.27.122.123

Hotel Paul has one desktop, two laptops, and streaming wifi.

From redrooster on Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 18:12:09 from 129.123.3.31

Thanks Nan! and good luck on Saturday, now that I know your bib number, courtesy of Jon's post of the elite women, I will watch for you to come in at the finish! I wish I was running with this exciting field, hopefully I will be in shape for next year.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
11.000.000.000.0011.00

HPER to spring hollow and back via river trail with Carol R. 7:46 average pace. tired.

NB 790 Miles: 11.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.000.000.001.005.00

short five finger track workout to air out the legs. 8 x 200 with 100 recoveries. 36:52, 41:07, 36:31, 37:15, 34:66, 35:95, 34:95, 38:59.

The scary thing for me is I wasn't even working hard to run these intervals, I wonder just how fast I can run 200 meters at my age (47). I am interested now in seeing how fast I can run 400 meters as well.  I may do an all out 400 next week just for fun- 60-65 seconds? If I can run a 49.88 I can set the mens 400 meter record for the 45-49 age group. That would be fun.

Vibram Five Finger Sprints Miles: 5.00
Comments
From Dave S on Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 18:31:24 from 206.54.113.250

You keep getting faster. Your going to smoke that 5k this weekend

From James on Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 22:53:55 from 174.23.35.13

Scott you should jump in an indoor meet or a USATF meet sometime. Summer games would be a great place to test your speed as well.

From redrooster on Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 23:41:18 from 71.219.126.66

James, that would be fun, I have always been a track and field junkie. it would be fun to enter the Utah summer games just for a kick. I better keep my day job though! You have the best job, coaching cross country, I would love to do that. If yor team ever takes on Mountain crest i will have to come watch.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
3.000.000.000.003.00

NB 790 Miles: 3.00
Race: Top of Utah 5K (3.12 Miles) 00:17:47, Place overall: 1, Place in age division: 1
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.006.200.003.1017.30

side show 5K to the Top of Utah marathon. Felt guilty I wasn't running the marathon, but not quite ready for that yet. There were a lot of people running but unlike last year when Paul, Cody and Joe ran there were no serious runners this year. So I was able to win the race, just due to the lack of depth. I am not sure about my exact time, I was hoping for 17:30 but I missed that by probably 15 seconds, but 17:47 felt pretty good. Carol Rowe finished second overall and first womens overall.

After the 5K Carol and I jogged up the course to run Cody in. Was super excited to see Paul way out in front at mile 20.5, cheered him on, didn't even look like he was sweating. He was a good 2-300 meters in front of one of the closest kenyan then. Jon Allen was not far behind in the top 5, awesome. Then Nan Kennard came by running really strong in the womens. Waited for Cody at mile 20, just back from Nan. Ran all the way back in with Cody and part of the way with Adam, felt really guilty because they had already run 20 miles yet here I am "encouraging" him, but probably just annoying him. But I sure had fun pretending i was an elite athlete running with these superheroes. I am not worthy but what the heck, I even got permission from the TOU organizers ahead of time to run back on the course to be sure I was legit.
Talked to a bunch of bloggers at the finish, a great day for the Cache valley and SLC bloggers.

Ran another 3 miles to cool down then went home. good day!!

Brooks T4 Miles: 5.10Asics Gel Hyperspeed Miles: 12.20
Comments
From Jon on Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 13:35:10 from 75.169.140.248

Hey, can't beat a win! Huge congrats, Scott, and thanks for cheering for us.

From Burt on Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 13:39:21 from 98.167.151.26

That's not a bad time at all. Way to go!

From Cody on Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 13:47:30 from 67.161.250.22

Excellent Time and cant beat the place! You even had too much energy to show me how good of shape you are in. Man was I suffering, but you really helped take me mind off of the task at hand. Thanks for pulling me along. A million thanks!

From Jon on Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 14:36:59 from 75.169.140.248

Hey, your race pace today was faster than my race pace- no fair!

From Snoqualmie on Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 15:39:35 from 24.18.192.33

A win is a win! Enjoy it! Nice job!

From Kelli on Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 16:09:52 from 71.219.96.151

WOO-HOO!! you can only race who shows up and that is one heck of a time!

From allie on Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 16:14:35 from 67.177.43.41

congrats on the win! i feel so bad i didn't even know that when i was talking to you. great job today.

From JD on Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 17:10:38 from 166.216.128.151

Dude your amazing! Nice win. It was good to meet you and I look forward to your future domination of our AG!

From Steve Piccolo on Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 17:56:24 from 66.60.123.63

Way to win it, Scott! that's great!

From Paul on Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 18:52:57 from 174.23.74.252

A win's a win, so enjoy it! Plus, the trophy for this race is super-cool for a 5K (actually, it's better than the marathon trophies).

From redrooster on Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 23:30:25 from 71.219.152.116

hey thanks everybody, I appreciate the kind comments! looking forward to bumping up to the marathon next year if my foot holds up. And Paul- you are right, the trophy is indeed way cool, the TOU people do a great job. Just wish I could have delivered on that 17:30 I promised you.

From James on Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 14:25:09 from 174.23.35.13

Scott, that is a smokin race for an old science prof!:) A win is a win is a win! Excellent race!

From Dave S on Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 21:13:19 from 4.254.225.248

Awesome time and congrats on the win! It looks like you got in a good day of running besides. I think you're about ready for a great marathon time in Mesquite. Great job!

From Sasha Pachev on Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 16:11:43 from 192.168.1.1

Congratulations on the win! The time is also encouraging. Shows you have the speed for a sub-2:50 marathon, it is just a matter of injury-free mileage overtime.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.000.000.000.008.00

8 mile 7:30 pace.

signed up for Mesquite Marathon November 21. should be interesting, as I am entering a two week period where I am as busy as I have ever been- teaching two big classes, running my lab, trying to write/proof papers, and then I have NIH study section in two weeks, and have barely made a dent in my reviewing load due in 13 days, then off to Washington for three days. Two exams to write and give this week, I am in way deep here. Sleep will have to be put on hold I guess. 

NB 790 Miles: 8.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.200.000.005.0010.20

killer track workout. only planned 4 x 1 mile w/400 recoveries but Carol made me go one more. ouch.   5:43, 5:48, 5:48, 5:49, 5:52


 

Vibram Five Finger Sprints Miles: 10.20
Comments
From allie on Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 17:00:03 from 161.38.223.220

nice work. you guys are awesome.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
11.200.000.000.0011.20

I was really dragging today, an easy run was a huge effort. I don't know what was wrong with me. 11.2 miles 7:48 average. 

NB 790 Miles: 11.20
Comments
From JD on Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 16:45:17 from 70.96.78.157

Gee I don't know. Could it be the string of sub 6 miles you did yesterday? Nice running!

From redrooster on Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 17:24:28 from 129.123.3.31

thanks JD, I feel a little better now. This marathon training stuff just wipes you out. why am I doing it anyway? I should just stay inside and eat oreos.

From Dave S on Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 12:57:51 from 4.254.230.111

Besides that, 7:48 pace for 11 miles isn't all that slow.

From redrooster on Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 16:27:22 from 129.123.3.31

Dave, if Carol Rowe hadn't been pulling me it would have been more like 9 minute miles. I guess that is the benefit of having a strong training partner.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.008.000.000.0010.00

did a tinman tempo sort of thing, 8 miles continuous.

1 mile warmup, 8:03

8 miles tempo Prov RH Millville rolling hills: 6:30, 6:33, 6:27, 6:33, 6:30, 6:36, 6:47, 6:49

1 mile cooldown 8:05.

really hurting the last couple miles as the splits show. that was mostly uphill but still. Paul tells me these runs should leave me feeling "energized" and "fresh". yeah right, I think he is just trying to hurt me or make me suffer or something.


Asics Gel Hyperspeed Miles: 10.00
Comments
From Jon on Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 16:43:39 from 138.64.2.76

Energized and fresh after a BW? Maybe Paul does if he runs them at our pace. I finish them feeling tired.

From redrooster on Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 16:47:07 from 129.123.3.31

Jon, does this qualify as a big workout? I would really like to do a big workout. It sure felt like a big workout anyway. But maybe I need some additional threshold work to qualify as a big workout?

Paul said to do some long tinmans at this point so I will do what he says. even though I still think he is just trying to hurt me.

From Jon on Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 17:27:03 from 138.64.2.76

10 miles? BW should be 90+ min, so this would be a bit short. And you're right- Paul is trying to hurt all of us.

From redrooster on Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 20:49:42 from 129.123.3.31

can I add in all the other crap I did at work to count it as a big workout?

From Steve Piccolo on Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 23:21:07 from 66.60.123.63

Nice splits, Scott!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.000.000.000.004.00

easy 4 in the 5's. as in the five fingers. just some vibram slang I made up. easy as in 8 minute pace.

Vibram Five Finger Sprints Miles: 4.00
Comments
From JD on Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 14:40:02 from 70.96.78.157

If I could ever manage even 1 in the 5's I'd be drooling all over myself from excitement.

From redrooster on Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 14:44:44 from 129.123.3.31

actually the fives are the five fingers! More like an 8 minute pace or slower!

From allie on Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 14:51:40 from 67.177.43.41

i thought the same thing about the pace...and you called it easy! sounds like a nice run. what a beautiful day today.

From redrooster on Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 14:58:26 from 129.123.3.31

hmm.. I better modify that entry so people don't think I am a superhero.... :-)

Allie, are you up for some track fun on tuesday? probably be 10AM, usual time, if you can make it.

From JD on Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 15:19:52 from 70.96.78.157

In that case, it's nice to see you go easy today. You've had a really solid week of training. If I could train like that, I'd be drooling all over myself from excitement!

From allie on Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 20:15:20 from 67.177.43.41

scott- i think i am going to give it one more week before i get back into track work. i have set some new goals for the 5K though, so i am planning on less mileage and more speed this fall.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
20.000.000.000.0020.00

20 at 7:25 and I appear to have injured my lower calf/achilles tendon.

Asics Gel Hyperspeed Miles: 20.00
Comments
From Jon on Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 13:53:34 from 138.64.2.76

Details on injury?

From redrooster on Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 20:42:03 from 71.219.139.154

Jon, lower calf pain, right above the achilles, swelling in lower calf, achilles and foot, inability to stand on toes, pain walking, can't run. I think I overloaded the calf with this minimal shoe approach. It came out of nowhere during the run and I foolishly kept going. first calf problem ever and first problem ever on right foot. will wait a few days and see how it looks, but it may be the end of the season for me. I guess I could go to the doctor but I imagine the only solution is good old RICE which I am doing anyway. So much for relying only on the low profile/minimal shoe approach, at least for long miles, anyone doing this needs to watch their calves very closely and probably augment with weights and lots of calf strengthening/stretching exercises, even though I was stretching a lot.

I guess I could be more bummed. I am plenty busy at work right now anyway so if I have to take some time off from running it isn't the end of the world, but maybe it will be OK in a week or so. it is out of my hands now anyway, what is in the past is just a lesson for the future I guess.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.000.000.000.007.00

water running for about 50 minutes. what a dumb activity. tonight I have an appt with Paul's magic muscle massage therapist. maybe she can figure something out. 

weird... after water running the swelling in my foot and lower calf is all but gone. before that icing and ibuprofen didn't even help it out. why would water running reduce swelling?

Comments
From Paul on Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 15:36:21 from 174.23.80.242

Hope you have a good massage. She has worked magic on me before...

From redrooster on Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 16:46:54 from 129.123.3.31

thanks, I am going to have her just work my calves- I have more faith in her diagnostic abilities than doctors. And it is cheaper than the co-pay for going to the doctor and being told I strained my calf.

From Cody on Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 17:27:55 from 69.9.58.17

Water Running only works because you hate it so much....

From Dave S on Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 22:18:03 from 4.254.231.190

Sorry to hear about your injury. That marathon training seams to be hard on us older runners. Hope it heals up quickly

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.000.000.000.007.00

25 minutes of kicking in the pool with a kickboard.

then 35 minutes of water running.

for the record, I hate both of these stupid activities. swimming = stupid in general. why would anyone do this for fun or fitness? I can't stand being cooped up in a stupid room with stupid cold water, stupid chlorine, no scenery, no chance to go anywhere, it is just... stupid.


Comments
From Steve Piccolo on Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 00:40:17 from 66.60.123.63

Tell me how you really feel about swimming. :)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.000.000.000.008.00

warmed up for 7 minutes on a spinner bike. then stretched the crap out of my calves. then ran a very easy mile on the indoor track, stopping to stretch a couple times. then went to the stupid pool and did 45 minutes of stupid water running. Ruth was there water running  at the beginning so I had some company and  I guess this counts as my first "run" with her. 

did some heel raises, more stretching, will do more PT stuff at home tonight and maybe schedule another calf massage. haven't given up yet.


Mizuno Precision 9 Miles: 1.20
Comments
From Jon on Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 15:57:38 from 138.64.2.76

Are you doing interval repeats in the water? Makes it go faster than just steady running.

From redrooster on Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 16:00:59 from 129.123.3.31

Jon, yeah, I kind of do fartlek stuff I guess, with 2-4 minute speed bursts. I try to vary the pace the whole time. Sometimes I close my eyes and try to go to a far away place, like Bagel-land, but then I end up hitting the side of the pool.

I am pretty confident I can be back on the road by Saturday, though I am going to be doing a lot more cross training for the next few weeks in addition to running. And lots of calf stretching. and I am going back to real shoes for awhile.

From JD on Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 16:07:06 from 70.96.78.157

Your love of water running is inspirational. :-)

Good job sticking with and dealing with this current injury in a smart way. You'll be back on the roads in no time.

From redrooster on Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 16:15:18 from 129.123.3.31

JD, did you get the idea I don't like water running.. thanks for the support, I appreciate the motivation!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
3.002.000.000.005.00

tested my calf, it started to hurt on my run. so I am calling it quits. I want to let it heal properly, and I have lost my confidence and interest because of this anyway. And I refuse to water run anymore. So I'll take 3-4 weeks off and then ease back into it, but mostly ride my bike to work for exercise until early spring. And start doing more cross country skiing. I want to get some skate skis and ski the course by beaver 2-3 times a week this winter.

Lessons learned: stretch the calves with minimalist running and continue to do calf strengthening exercises. The minimal shoe worked very well for me in the 40-50 mile range, and I am pretty sure that is all my body is designed for in any shoes. I can train for a marathon in that range if I just augment those miles with cross training, per the FIRST approach. If I decide to do TOU next fall it will be on 4 days of running, 50 miles running max per week, two days of cross training per week.

And I refuse to go back to conventional shoes, running in the mizuno's today just sucked big time. whats the fun in running if your feet can't move and enjoy the motion?  I like the freedom of light shoes and the five fingers. So I just have to train my calves to like them.

OK, I am leaving work early , I think I will hook up the tent trailer and take the twins to Willow flats. then hike to spring hollow tomorrow with them. play some tennis, do some hiking, take a running break.

good look to all the St George runners tomorrow, cant wait to see how you all do!!


 

Mizuno Precision 9 Miles: 5.00
Comments
From Jon on Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 17:07:37 from 138.64.2.76

Well, enjoy the time off.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.100.000.000.000.10

hiked to wind cave with my 3 sons.

 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
17.500.000.000.0017.50

had to go to work today to get ready for NIH panel. at 3PM I couldn't take sitting at the desk  anymore. so I put on my shoes said what the heck and ran to Spring Hollow via single track. then on the way back I ran the 1st dam run 10K. 17.5 miles total 7:51 pace. rained on me the whole way, hard. what the heck.

NB 790 Miles: 17.50
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.000.000.000.004.00

kicked 34 laps in the pool, 35 minute workout.

 

Comments
From Jon on Mon, Oct 05, 2009 at 16:45:38 from 138.64.2.76

I thought you were done with the pool?

From redrooster on Mon, Oct 05, 2009 at 17:30:48 from 129.123.3.31

I refuse to give up...yet.... they won't take this rooster down without a fight!

From RivertonPaul on Mon, Oct 05, 2009 at 18:00:26 from 67.42.27.114

Redduck.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.000.000.004.468.46

My calf is reasonable., I am watching it closely I am now loosely following the FIRST training program to allow my calves some recovery time between runs. Basically, you run only three days a week- one interval day, one tempo, one long run. then do 2-3 days of cross training. And that's the magic formula. Will it work? We shall see. 

So today's workout: 6 x 1200, as 2 3x1200 reps. short 1-2 minute recoveries between each interval, and then a longer 400 meter recovery between the two sets. Here are my times:

4:19, 4:20, 4:18, 4:21, 4:19, 4:17

target was 4:15 so this was OK. calf feels pretty good, iced it after running.

tomorrow should be a cross training day., then thursday a long tempo run. since I will be in DC I will have to see what the hotel exercise room options are. Pool? stationary bike? elliptical? I shall see. then thursday- excited to run my tempo on the capital crescent trail, one block from my hotel, if my leg is in decent shape.





Brooks T4 Miles: 8.86
Comments
From allie on Tue, Oct 06, 2009 at 17:34:06 from 67.177.43.41

glad the calf is at least runnable. it will be interesting to see how the running/XT program works. if i keep getting injured i may have to try something along those lines. are you still planning on a marathon? (was it mesquite?)

From redrooster on Tue, Oct 06, 2009 at 17:52:06 from 129.123.3.31

Allie, yes, that is the plan right now, mesquite novemeber 21, if I can make it without stressing my calf or shin too badly! All I need is a BQ, which is 3:30 for my age, so I just need to stay healthy enough to get there, I really am not looking to PR or anything.

Whats your tuesday schedule looking like? We had a good group today- you should come join us next week, this is the perfect group for getting ready for the first dam 5 or 10K. Having other runners thhere really helps for these intervals. Today Neal Legler joined us, he is our speediest runner with a 34-35 minute first dam 10K last year. hope to see you next week if you can make it, Scott

From allie on Tue, Oct 06, 2009 at 18:26:57 from 67.177.43.41

unfortunately, tuesdays have turned out to be the busiest day for me. i have classes starting at 7:30 AM that run until 6 PM, and not enough time in between to make it down to the track and back.

i am glad you are still planning on the marathon. i am also glad that you are no longer confined to the pool. i'm with you, pool running is a dumb activity :)

From Dave S on Wed, Oct 07, 2009 at 12:27:03 from 4.254.225.180

Scott, good to see you running again already. I'm interested to see how that FIRST program goes for you. I need to figure out how to quit getting injured too.

From RivertonPaul on Wed, Oct 07, 2009 at 13:58:08 from 67.42.27.114

FIRST is not so different from Tinmann and other programs in that it really is about taking your recovery days as real recovery. I think if you are going to do FIRST, be sure to do the cross training. I sort of do that with a lot of elliptical for the same reason -- to recover and avoid injury. You need to learn how to be a slacker like me. :)

From redrooster on Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 08:52:15 from 65.79.229.3

Paul, I will take your breakthrough time at St George anytime! I like the combo of elliptical and running you have been doing and you show it works. I wish I had started this x-training approach before my calf got strained. now I am not sure what I should do....

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.000.000.000.007.00

georgetown branch capital crescent trail, 4 miles easy. then 15 minutes stationary bike, then 15 minutes elliptical

NB 790 Pair 2 Miles: 4.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
1.7010.000.000.0011.70

10 mile tempo run 6:31 average pace. capital crescent trail Bethesda, in the pitch dark in the evening. no lighting on trail at all, it is lined with trees all th way so when the sun goes down it is dark. kind of scary too.

calf was a little sore when I got done, I can feel a specific point in there, above the achilles, when I stretch and stand on toes. I don't know if I should keep going, stop completely, or just scale back. makes me nervous.... never dealt with this before.

NB 790 Pair 2 Miles: 11.70
Comments
From Steve Piccolo on Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 16:20:50 from 66.60.123.63

Sheesh, Scott, it seems like the more you get injured, the faster you run your tempo runs. That's fast.

From redrooster on Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 12:43:18 from 71.219.122.45

Steve, sea level makes everything easy :-)

that and the adrenaline from running in pitch black down an isolated trail, fearing for my life...

OK not really fearing for my life, except from the bikers who went flying past, but it was a strange run!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.000.000.000.006.00

finished NIH study section and went to the exercise rooom here at the hyatt. did 35 minutes on the stationary bike. the seat hurts my butt big time- I can't sit longer than that.the spinner bikes at USU are better. then I finished off with 15 minutes on the elliptical. 50 minute workout. debating what to do with my calf- it is sore in one spot, but I can run on it... do I keep going or quit for awhile? the elliptical and bike dont hurt at all. it gets slightly sore running, and I can feel a spot when I do heel raises... any calf experts out there? Jon? Paul? Cody? anyone???  help me out, I need advice!!!

OK- taking the metro to national now to catch my flight home. long flight, in at 8:15, then I will drive to BYU and take my daughter for a late dinner or dessert or something. which means I probably wont be back home til around 2ish. but my daughter is worth the extra travels.


Comments
From Cody on Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 14:52:29 from 69.9.58.17

I am not the best example to follow. I generally over-do it and cause a small problem to become a big problem. So, generally I would have to say that you should take care of it first, before running (or biking or anything that aggravates it) too much on it. But, like I said, I rarely follow my own advise.

From redrooster on Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 18:08:37 from 71.219.122.45

Cody, that is kind of what i am thinking... maybe just cut the running miles severely and cross train for a couple months, and bag the marathon this fall. I am worried about doing something that becomes a chronic problem, but I was looking forward to mesquite, and I am in really good shape right now, for me anyway. oh well, thanks for the advice!

From Jon on Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 20:51:58 from 75.169.146.171

If you don't have anything to train for, then rest may be good. Personally, if I can keep training and it doesn't get worse or slowly gets better, then I keep running.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
20.000.000.000.0020.00

20 miles in 2:23

Asics Speedstar Miles: 20.00
Comments
From Steve Piccolo on Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 00:14:55 from 66.60.123.63

Glad you're able to run that long and at a good pace!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.000.000.000.004.00

kicking HPER pool 28 lengths

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.000.000.004.008.00

8 x 800 intervals about 2:50

Brooks T4 Miles: 8.00
Comments
From Steve Piccolo on Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 00:15:25 from 66.60.123.63

Nice pace!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.000.000.000.007.00

51 minutes water running. OK my calf is now fine but I messed something else up last week. I wore a new pair of shoes last thursday and the laces were tight, at the end of my run I had a really sharp pain on the top of my right foot midway up, where the laces are. I am assuming I damaged something by lacing too tight. What I don't know is how bad it is- just a muscle/tendon inflammation/bruise, or is it possible I stress fractured the metatarsal bones? It still hurts almost a week later, painful to walk on, painful when I start running but then the pain smooths out. It is sensitive to the touch, but nothing that would make you scream, which I think is the case with a SF but who knows. Anyone else have a problem like this? I don't know what to do here. It is not healing fast, I guess I can take time off but I am not convinced that is going to help as walking hurts as much as running anyway. Just one thing after another, it is really starting to tick me off.

Comments
From Jon on Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 17:46:34 from 138.64.2.76

I've had bruises on top of my foot that felt exactly like that from tying too tight. Took over a week to go away. I don't think you could give youself a SF from tying tight, but something else could cause a SF and the timing just coincides.

From redrooster on Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 22:56:24 from 71.219.122.45

Jon, thanks for the info, I know I overtightened that stupid shoe so I am banking on it just being a bruised tendon, I am glad to hear you experienced something similar. Not that i wish you pain of course, just good to hear someone else has had that and survived. Happy birthday by the way!!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.402.200.000.004.60

new problem developed today, back of left calf, very painful so I stopped and walked back. It came out of nowhere. I guess it is a sign that I have done something seriously wrong with my training this time around. I have been stretching my calves, and also using a stick to work the muscles. I wonder if all this has done is to aggravate them even worse. I have very tight calves, and I imagine stretching them is a catch 22, it may help to loosen them, but it probably also strains them. So I am at a loss as to what to do. I think the harsh truth is I don't have the build for long distance running. My arches are too high and rigid, my muscles too tight. OK, I'll give this a rest for a day or two and then see how it feels.

Mizuno Precision 9 Miles: 4.60
Comments
From Mattrow on Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 16:08:55 from 138.64.2.76

That is to bad injuries sure stink.

From Dave S on Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 10:36:45 from 4.254.231.144

Dang! If it's not one thing it's another. I can relate. It seams like the injuries always strike me when I get into my marathon training. It's got to be the long runs and overall higher mileage. Us older guys don't seem to recover as fast anymore. I think next time I train for a marathon I'm going to keep my longest runs at a slower pace. Most of what I read says 1-2 minutes slower than MP but I always figure that's for other people. Right?

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.000.000.000.008.00

USU to RT easy

NB 1062 Pair 1 Miles: 8.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.600.000.004.008.60

4 x 1600 about 5:50

Brooks T4 Miles: 8.60
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.000.000.000.008.00

2 miles treadmill 30 minutes elliptical 15 minutes spinner bike

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
1.809.000.000.0010.80

9 miles @ 6:35

Asics Speedstar Miles: 10.80
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.000.000.000.007.00

7 very easy RT

NB 1062 Pair 1 Miles: 7.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
22.000.000.000.0022.00

ran from mile 20 to mile 9 of TOU course and back. 7:29 average pace.

 

Wave Rider 11 Miles: 22.00
Comments
From Cody on Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 23:05:11 from 67.161.250.22

Looks like you are still training quite well! Very nice.

From redrooster on Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 23:10:15 from 71.219.150.58

Cody, thanks, going back to real shoes has helped my calves a lot. I guess the lesson is, light shoes and five fingers are fine and fun for the 5K to half, but they just don't work for marathon training. Are you still planning on pacing me in Mesquite :-)

From Cody on Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 23:11:32 from 67.161.250.22

I feel a cold coming on....maybe it will pass in time....maybe

From Jon on Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 11:36:10 from 75.169.149.3

Wow- a long run! Leg feeling better?

From redrooster on Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 20:03:48 from 71.219.150.58

Jon, calves seem pretty OK...knock on wood... we'll see...

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.000.000.000.008.00

USU to RT easy

NB 1062 Pair 1 Miles: 8.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.500.000.005.009.50

USU track 5 x 1 mile with 2 minute recoveries. cold. windy. snowy. didnt go all out, so not really VO2max, but with the cold and snow I will count it as such.

6:02,  5:56, 5:52, 5:54, 6:02

 calves a little troublesome. tomorrow I will do the elliptical and stat bike. All I have to do it make it through a long run Saturday with my calves intact and I can start a 3 week taper.


Brooks T4 Miles: 9.50
Comments
From allie on Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 15:29:51 from 129.123.245.126

nice mile repeats in the not so nice weather. i know you will be tapering, but are you planning on running the first dam race this year?

From redrooster on Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 15:36:42 from 129.123.3.31

Allie, yes, I always do first dam, I can't miss that. I probably won't "intend" to go all out, but with Keith Anderson there I will have no choice but to try to keep up with him, although I have yet to beat him in the first dam run, he is just too fast.

Are you doing the 5 or 10K? I always do the 10.

Lonely at the track these days. Carol is injured and Neal has meetings so I am all alone. Maybe we should reschedule the day so you and others can make it? we could move to monday or wednesday?

From allie on Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 16:03:37 from 129.123.245.126

i have always done the 10k in the past, but this year i am doing the 5k. i really hate the distance so i am trying to embrace my fears and go after some shorter distance goals that i have been avoiding. mondays and wednesdays are great for me. if you can do speedwork on either of those days i would definitely join you. let me know what works best.

From redrooster on Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 17:20:30 from 129.123.3.31

Allie, go for it, I did the same thing, running a couple "fast" (for me) 5Ks recently, with a 17:47 at TOU. it is indeed tough to run that fast but TOU 5K is a good course with not much elevation change.

I'll email you next week and see what your schedule is!

Scott

From allie on Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 17:37:17 from 129.123.245.126

i totally forgot about that TOU 1/2 award. sorry you have had it for so long, but thanks for keeping it safe for me. i'll come get in on thursday.

From Adam RW on Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 22:58:51 from 24.10.175.42

For having a troublesome calf those splits were pretty tight.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.000.000.000.007.00

20 minutes spinner bike. 30 minutes elliptical. 0.5 miles running. 

Mizuno Wave Precision Miles: 0.50
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
3.306.000.000.009.30

tried to run kind of some 3 mile threshold runs but my legs had other ideas. first 3 miles at 6:20 pace, second 3 miles at 6:29 pace, then I felt like I was going to puke so I stopped and did a couple easy recovery miles. sigh. maybe its the cold weather. or not enough recovery time. I am just tired.

Asics Speedstar Miles: 9.30
Comments
From allie on Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 18:58:46 from 67.177.43.41

was this on the track? road? TM? i think those are great paces in the crazy cold weather. sorry, i once again failed to come pick up the TOU 1/2 award today. just too much other stuff going on. you know, you could just trash it and i wouldn't care. at least then it would be out of your hair.

From redrooster on Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 20:30:24 from 71.219.150.58

Allie, thanks, it was on the road, I guess it is just hard to run fast on these first cold days? blech.

your cool award is way too cool to trash. I'll get it to you someday!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.000.000.000.007.00

7 very easy river trail to spring hollow. cold. ready to migrate south.

NB 1062 Pair 1 Miles: 7.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
22.000.000.000.0022.00

22 miles in 2:45, ran miles 23 to 12 of TOU marathon course. 7:30 pace.

now I feel like I am going to throw up. this 20+ mile stuff just isn't my gig I guess.

Wave Rider 11 Miles: 22.00
Comments
From allie on Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 20:09:01 from 67.177.43.41

great job. those long runs are definitely not easy, plus you are running UP the canyon. hard core. looking on track for a great marathon. taper time!

From redrooster on Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 20:22:08 from 71.219.150.58

thanks Allie, I will do my best! but right now I still feel like I am going to throw up....

From Dave S on Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 21:11:56 from 4.254.227.86

Nice run. It looks like you're going to be ready for a good marathon. Puking from running hard is a good thing. Right?

From redrooster on Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 22:14:42 from 71.219.150.58

Dave, I kind of have a negative view on puking, I am kind of like Jerry Seinfeld, trying to extend my streak of years with no puking, if you remember that old episode. fortunately my streak continues though it could have ended today very easily. maybe 10 years now? knock on wood....

From Steve Piccolo on Sun, Nov 01, 2009 at 13:45:52 from 66.60.123.63

Good job getting out there and running a good pace.

From Dave S on Sun, Nov 01, 2009 at 20:05:56 from 4.254.231.72

I remember that episode. Congrats on keeping the streak alive.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.000.000.000.008.00

USU to RT single track 8 miles 59:30

 

 

Wave Rider 11 Miles: 8.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.300.000.003.007.30

6 x 800 with 200 recoveries 2:50, 2:48, 2:50, 2:48, 2:48, 2:44

 

 

Brooks T4 Miles: 7.30
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
11.200.000.000.0011.20

11.2 miles USU to spring hollow 8:15 pace.

Wave Rider 11 Miles: 11.20
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.500.001.000.005.50

aired the legs out by doing 8 200s on the USU track at about 36 seconds each.

 

Brooks T4 Miles: 5.50
Race: first dam 10K (6.2 Miles) 00:37:31, Place overall: 3, Place in age division: 1
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.900.006.200.0015.10

I run this race every year. I needed about 15 miles today as a part of a marathon taper and the speed work seemed like it would be helpful. A new guy on the local scene, Steve Anderson, took off at a blazing pace, I haven't seen him at the local races before. Right  behind him was Jesse Dunn, an 18 year old track speedster. they gapped me fast and I was left to run this all by myself in third place. Fortunately I had one of my students in my gen chem class running as a bandit as part of my "beat the professor" challenge, where they get a free t-shirt stating they beat me if they can beat me in a race. We ran together for about 2 miles then he pulled ahead and beat me by about a minute (althoush since he ran as a bandit he didn't get an official time). He earned his t-shirt as he threw up after finishing :-) . First time I have had to award a t-shirt for my challenge, bummer!!. For the record, he is 22 and I am 48; I may have to start giving myself an age handicap for these challenges as I get older and slower...

Did a 1.8 mile warmup and another 7.1 miles right after the race to get my 15 for the day. My left foot is starting to act up again and my calves hurt as well. icing everything right now. good thing I have a couple weeks to take it easy.


Mizuno Precision 9 Miles: 7.10Asics Gel Hyperspeed Miles: 8.00
Comments
From Cody on Sat, Nov 07, 2009 at 16:24:01 from 71.219.66.5

Nice Job Prof! A great sign that the fitness is great. A taper should take care of the aches and pains.

From Paul on Sat, Nov 07, 2009 at 16:41:28 from 174.23.72.133

My college coach put on a 5K every summer. The deal was that anyone who could beat him would get a free donut. The problem was that he was a sub-14 guy back in the day, and at age 40 could still run pretty quick. But every year he had to put out more and more donuts. It was both sad and sweet at the same time.

Oh, and nice job today.

From Jon on Sat, Nov 07, 2009 at 17:10:55 from 75.169.140.28

Good job! Make sure you give an A to the kid who beat you.

From JD on Sat, Nov 07, 2009 at 18:08:11 from 166.128.3.157

There's no substitute for good "old" speed!

Congratulations!

From crockett on Sat, Nov 07, 2009 at 18:21:42 from 71.35.210.18

Well done. You looked strong and fast flying down past me.

From Burt on Sat, Nov 07, 2009 at 18:42:27 from 98.177.216.165

Nice job Rooster. Good luck in Mesquite.

From redrooster on Sun, Nov 08, 2009 at 02:25:37 from 71.219.150.58

thanks guys! I'll try not to embarrass myself in Mesquite too badly. just gotta avoid that pesky swine flu for a couple more weeks....

From Dave S on Sun, Nov 08, 2009 at 15:31:54 from 4.254.226.147

Great job! Nice time! Too bad Keith wasn't there it probably would have been close. Sorry I missed you down there. I only saw you run by as Paul and I were running a cool down after the 5k. You must have been out on your second run when I got back. Good luck in Mesquite.

From Steve Piccolo on Sun, Nov 08, 2009 at 17:27:00 from 66.60.123.63

Sheesh, nice job!! Your time has to be some kind of record. That's amazing.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.100.000.000.007.10

ran from work to green canyon and back. calves are sore. I wonder if saturday's run was a smart thing to do. oh well it is in the bag, and a 10K PR for me on a loop course since I started running again in 2005. Just for fun I checked my first dam 10K times over the last 5 years:

2005: 42:09, I had just started running again in June of this year after 15 years off
2006: 38:53
2007: recovering from cochlear implant surgery where they carved up my head pretty well: 40:02
2008: 38:09
2009: 37:31
2010 ????



Wave Rider 11 Miles: 7.10
Comments
From allie on Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 19:20:08 from 67.177.43.41

great job on saturday. you ran very well and looked strong to the end. great PR.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.000.001.002.008.00

plan: 4 x 400 speed intervals, then 2 x 800 cruise intervals, then 4 x 400 speed intervals. 200 recoveries in between each

first four 400s: 83, 83, 81, 80 seconds
800s: 2:59, 2:56
second set of 400s: 81, 83, 79, 82 seconds.

for the record, Logan drivers are idiots. I got cut off at 4 crosswalks today. first, some idiot talking on his cell phone went right thru the crosswalk on campus by the education building nearly hitting me. So I smacked his car, inviting a confrontation but he didn't stop (he slowed down, looked at me like "huh?", then kept going). then two cars turned left into crosswalks directly into my path from 1200 east on the way to the track. they never even look for pedestrians, they are either too stupid or busy talking on their stupid cell phones. then someone in la-la land stopped fully across the crosswalk at a stop sign while waiting for traffic. So I gave her a long dirty look as I went around the front of her car. don't even know if it registered with her that you don't stop your car on a crosswalk at a stop sign. that is how stupid drivers in Logan have become. it is hardly isolated, just an everyday occurrence. attentive driving is so hard these days.

OK now I feel better venting my frustrations. down with cars. I also broke in a new pair of shoes that I am considering wearing in Mesquite. Mizuno ronin, a fairly lightweight trainer/flat. Seems like a decent shoe. question is if I can go 26 miles in something with this little cushioning and heel support.


Mizuno Wave Ronin Miles: 8.00
Comments
From Mack on Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 16:52:59 from 71.111.182.118

I think they are probably Idaho drivers who have strayed down south into Cache Valley:)

From allie on Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 17:08:07 from 129.123.245.246

i agree. bad drivers everywhere. mostly distracted students. glad you weren't hit. nice workout too. what kind of time are you shooting for at mesquite?

From JD on Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 17:13:54 from 70.96.78.157

Nice run today.

I've observed a notable increase in the type of driving behavior you're describing, over the last year or so. It's like planet earth is actually being taken over by zombies from another planet.

From redrooster on Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 18:00:28 from 129.123.3.31

yes, the driving thing is becoming very annoying. what to do??

Allie, Mesquite... first goal is make it without getting the swine flu that 20% of the kids in my classes have. second goal is to have healthy calves. if (1) and (2)work out and the weather is good I would like to run a 2:50-2:55...but we will see.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.000.000.000.008.00

usu to RT to single track and back. just the usual. 

Wave Rider 11 Miles: 8.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.000.000.000.005.00

5 easy with 8 striders

Asics Gel Hyperspeed Miles: 5.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
3.000.000.000.003.00

 3 easy

Wave Rider 11 Miles: 3.00
Race: Tremonton turkey trot (3.1 Miles) 00:18:30, Place overall: 5, Place in age division: 1
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.900.003.100.0011.00

Today I decided to test the hypothesis that we evolved as runners, to relentlessly hunt down food. My goal was to catch a turkey. I know this theory is still controversial... are we designed to be hunters? gatherers? scavengers? couch potatoes?
well, to catch this turkey (which was conveniently already killed, defeathered, cleaned, packaged in plastic and frozen) all I had to do was outrun any other participants in this race in the 39-49 year old age group. The race course runs through the quaint little town of Tremonton on the other side of the mountain from us. I mapped the race course out here. The course is very nice, a loop with very few turns, almost no traffic, and completely flat. It would be a great course to set a PR on under good conditions and if going all out. The race appears to be accurate based on gmap mapping and what my garmin said. And the entry fee is just one dollar, which includes a t-shirt. This is the best deal in Utah, kudos to Tremonton for putting this on, doing a fantastic job, and setting a price that encourages anyone to come and run!
The weather for this race was downright frightening. About 27 degrees at race time, with snow, and some gusting wind out of the north. I ran the course once to warm up. As the runners lined up to start, I ditched my jacket, running in a short sleeve shirt with a pair of Sugoi arm warmers. It was cold but I figured the race would start right away since everyone was lined up, freezing, ready to go. Ooops, some gentleman had gone into the city offices to use the restroom, and the race organizers waited patiently for him to come back before allowing the rest of us to start. he sauntered on back after we stood there freezing for 5 or so minutes. Thanks pal.
A group of four high school kids went out fast and I tucked in behind them and let them pull ahead. I decided to run about a 6 minute pace, not go all out, with a marathon next Saturday. But I was prepared to do whatever necessary to get that turkey. Fortunately, the 6 minute pace got the job done. Mission accomplished!
After finishing and staking my claim to my turkey I ran back up the course and found my wife. She was winning her age group as well, yippee!! I paced her in to a first place win in the 39-49 womens FOR A CLEAN SWEEP OF THE AGE GROUP FOR THE ENSIGNS AND TWO, NOT ONE, BUT TWO, TURKEYS FOR OUR EFFORTS!
After the race ran another cool down on the course (third time running it) and a little more to get me to 11 miles. Then we went to Ridleys in Tremonton where they had potatoes on sale for the amazing price of 89 cents per ten pound bag! I know nothing about potato prices but my wife assures me that is an incredible price. We also got fantastic prices on pomegranets and bananas. In Tremonton Utah of all places. Put Ridley's on your "must go" spots for your next trip to Tremonton.
A good friend of mine in Tremonton who I served my mission with (we were in the same MTC group, and then way up north above the arctic circle in Norway in the same district and zone for quite awhile) ran this race as her first race ever after starting running several months ago. She finished an amazing third in her age group, congratulation Gina, and welcome to the fun of running and racing.  It just occurred to me it will be 29 years from next Saturday that we entered the MTC together,spending thanksgiving, christmas and new years in there. time flies.
After all this fun got in the car, drove home in a snow storm, put the turkeys in the freezer, and am now resting, assured it is going to be a great thanksgiving this year!!

 

Mizuno Precision 9 Miles: 7.10Asics Gel Hyperspeed Miles: 3.90
Comments
From James on Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 15:37:29 from 174.23.43.206

I went turkey hunting in those parts a couple years ago and had a lot of success with 3 turkeys in three weeks and 7 dollars in entry fees. Is that race still $1?

From allie on Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 15:38:01 from 67.177.43.41

nicely done on your turkey winnings, and congrats to your wife as well! it is sure a cold day to be racing.

From Paul on Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 15:46:43 from 174.23.93.107

Nice job. Enjoy your turkeys.

From redrooster on Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 15:52:23 from 71.219.150.58

thanks!! James- yes the race is still a buck- I better add that to my report. best deal on the Utah circuit with a t-shirt included in that price. my kind of race!!

From James on Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 16:00:24 from 174.23.43.206

When I ran it I got a t-shirt, a turkey, and a pie for $1... yeah, you can't beat that!

Good time today!

What marathon is next week?

From Kelli on Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 16:08:27 from 71.219.97.167

Nicely done you hunter!

From Burt on Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 16:35:13 from 98.177.216.165

Great job and entertaining report, pal. Hahaha. I asked my wife if that is a good price on potatoes, and she said yes. Doubly confirmed. Also, she said she bought pomegranates for $1 a piece which is a good price. See you in Mesquite!

From Snoqualmie on Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 16:53:57 from 24.18.192.33

Awesome job scoring those turkeys!! Loved your race report!

From Dave S on Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 21:07:31 from 4.254.231.152

Nice job and congrats to your wife.

From redrooster on Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 21:39:40 from 71.219.150.58

James, this year they gave the pies to the second place finishers. got to spread the wealth I guess. still a great deal. the marathon is Mesquite. Burt and I are running that. he is bringing our support team in from Arizona, at least I am expecting him to.

Burt- I will look for you at the packet pickup on Friday- driving down with my wife from Logan Friday after teaching my classes. What time do you think you will be there?

From Steve Piccolo on Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 01:56:54 from 173.13.137.18

Good job on another excellent time, a turkey, and testing a hypothesis, all in the same morning.

From flatlander on Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 07:56:46 from 198.207.244.102

redrooster, thanks, this is one of the funner race reports I have read. Never been to Tremonton and at this point probably never will, but I had a seminary teacher years ago who was from there. He talked about it all the time.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.903.100.000.006.00

just some tempo paces interspersed with easy running:

2 miles at 6:37 pace

0.5 miles at about 6:30 pace

0.64 miles at about 6:17 pace

Wave Rider 11 Miles: 6.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.000.000.000.006.00

just doin what the coach tells me to do.

Wave Rider 11 Miles: 6.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.000.000.000.005.00

coach told me to do 6 easy with strides. I cheated and did five easy with strides. but coach probably wont  read this entry anyway so I should be OK

Wave Rider 11 Miles: 5.00
Comments
From Burt on Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 18:00:42 from 12.231.112.98

I hope that doesn't come back to haunt you Saturday ;)

My only hope for victory is that the whole of Utah is infected by swine flu. I think I can take Nevada.

From redrooster on Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 23:16:48 from 71.219.125.113

swine flu is indeed a problem here. I am teaching 350 students and about 20% have had it or have it now. and of course they come and tell me in person, gee thanks... if I make it to saturday without getting sick that will be a victory itself!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.000.000.000.004.00

4 easy

Asics Speedstar Miles: 4.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.000.000.000.002.00

2 easy treadmill

Mizuno Wave Ronin Miles: 2.00
Race: Mesquite marathon (26.2 Miles) 02:57:36, Place overall: 5, Place in age division: 1
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.0026.200.000.0026.20

I had only one purpose for running this race: qualify for Boston so I could run it with my brother. Of course everyone knows Boston never fills up before January, and being plagued by injuries earlier in the year I couldn't get ready for TOU in time, so decided this race would get me the qualification I needed. Which it would have, had it been held 8 days earlier. sigh..
OK, so I had signed up, trained (although kind of spotty), had a hotel at the lovely Casa Blanca casino in beautiful Mesquite...might as well go through with it. So I drove down with my wife as my support crew and cheering section.
Well, first off, the beautiful  sloping downhill elevation map they posted on their web page advertising this race is completely wrong. Fortunately Clyde (superfly) scoped the course out and provided the accurate description here.

 Buses loaded at 5:20 and took off at 5:30 and dropped all 170 of us about 11 miles north of the interstate in the absolute middle of nowhere. They did however place 5 porta potties there so we knew we were in the right place. There was no scheduled start time, just "whenever everyone is through with the porta-potties". OK....

so the race starts at maybe 6:30 or 6:45. Superfly was right on the money in his description. the first six miles were some great downhill, then the course levelled out and was fine until we hit the interstate at about mile 11. Then the fun started. the route followed the frontage road for the next 10 miles or so, kind of paralleling the interstate, but with some of the nastiest hills you would ever want to encounter in a marathon. These were not your run of the mill gentle rollers but some serious mile long inclines followed by equally steep declines. I was running with two guys at this point and we kind of looked at each other in amazement each time we went around a corner and saw another one of these fun hills looming ahead. The hills ended at about mile 20 but by then they had taken their toll. I was wiped out. But the (much younger) guys I was running with got more wiped out and I dropped them.

There were no mile markers on this course, just "miles to finish" signs. I was keeping track of my mile splits on my sportcount but then I dropped it and lost it. oops.

The aid stations on this course were quite interesting. Apparently mammoth marathons believes in "self service" and water conservation. There was no "gatorade followed by water" order, you got what was handed to you. If anyone bothered to do that. At some of the aid stations the volunteers smiled broadly as they let you stop and help yourself. gee thanks. As we got closer to the finish, water must have been running low so they began to ration. I was pretty thirsty at that point, so running through an aid station and being handed a cup with one ounce of water in it didn't help my mood much. Fortunately, my wife spotted me 10 oz bottles of cytomax at miles 11 and 20, or I would have seriously dehydrated.

As for traffic control: there was none until you entered Mesquite. I came within about a second of ending my marathon at about mile 12 when a guy came out of his ranch driveway and turned onto  the highway. he looked right at me then decided I should stop for him and gunned his truck right at me. I managed to pull up just in time to avoid getting hit head on, running into the side of his truck. then he stopped, I guess amazed I didn't stop sooner. Along the frontage road, running three abreast, we were forced to pull off onto the gravel by at least 4 or five trucks who decided they didn't want runners on their road, in spite of almost no traffic, they could easily have moved into the other lane. 

On the bright side, I did finish as the top finisher over 40, and I think maybe 5th overall, though I am not sure exactly who was in front of me. There were a few fast runners, including some bloggers. I will be interested to hear what Walter has to say about his Mesquite experience. Read his report for comparison :-)  I know he had a tough run too.

On the women's side, there was Mary Ann and another woman I don't know who were vying for the big 1500 dollar award. I pulled ahead of them at about mile 6 and I don't know how the women's race turned out as I took off right after finishing and didn't stick around.

OK, so a 2:57 on a very tough course is fine with me, and a great way to end the season. I am glad I ran this race, it was a life experience, but it is one I will not repeat, thank you very much. I'll run TOU or enter the lottery for St George if I decide to run another marathon.

Mizuno Wave Ronin Miles: 26.20
Comments
From Steve Piccolo on Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 01:07:09 from 66.60.123.141

Nice time on a tough course. Good job breaking 3 hours! Too bad it wasn't as well organized as you hoped.

From redrooster on Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 01:36:47 from 71.219.128.171

Steve, thanks, and it was fun overall, a little more casual than I expected but fun nonetheless.

Are you running Boston? your fitness looks great, you will do awesome!

From Steve Piccolo on Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 09:52:30 from 66.60.123.141

Not planning to Boston in 2010. We decided to wait till 2011. Maybe I'll see you there!

From JulieC on Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 09:53:44 from 67.40.111.101

Wow that is quite the event for a BQ. You so ran well for that on a not well aided, tough hills and roadblocked course (trucks) and well congrats, really feel good about this you certainly tore it up. Really a countdown mileage? That would be only be good at the one mile to go sign : D.

From James on Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 11:24:13 from 174.23.43.206

Scott, nice job on a sub 3:00 marathon! Way to go down and win the Masters too. The lack of organization will likely get better, at least we all hope, right!

From Burt on Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 12:32:36 from 98.177.216.165

Rooster! Wow! You did awesome! Sorry I didn't get to meet you. I got about 30 miles out of town, and I told my wife, "I didn't see Red Rooster!" I was so bummed. Anyway, great first marathon. And hey, you're right about the aid stations. At mile 15 they had nothing! That was depressing.

From eightkidmom on Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 14:31:58 from 4.254.235.196

HAHAHA!!! I LOVE your race report! Your descriptions were perfect - especially the aid staitions - what a hoot! It was certainly an interesting race. Congrats on a great time with such a tough course! Wow! Too bad we didn't get a chance to meet there. Let me know if you make it to Saint George, 2010. I'll be there next year, with my husband and three of my kiddos. :D

From redrooster on Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 16:52:43 from 71.219.128.171

Julie and James, thanks for the kind comments!! Burt- I am sorry I missed you, I was looking for you at the start and the pickup but with only a picture to go on wasn't sure who you were.. dang! next time!! 8kidmom- sorry I missed meeting you too- I will probably enter the lottery for St George next year and will run if I can get in. If so I hope to see you there!

From Kelli on Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 17:01:31 from 71.219.71.229

That is a real bummer about Boston filling up so fast. I had been putting off registering because of the price tag for two of us, but in the end I did it a week before---THANKS GOODNESS!!!!

That course just does not sound like a fun one (traffic, crappy aide stations, etc). Way to tough it out and finish first in the over 40 crowd. That is an accomplishment in and of itself, but your time speaks volumes for the course. Nicely done!!!

From Cody on Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 17:11:15 from 67.161.250.22

Excellent Race Scott! Pretty unfortunate that the typical race organization was lacking (typical MM). Way to tough out a solid time over some tough hills. It is still a PR right?

From MichelleL on Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 17:11:19 from 71.213.97.46

Way to show the youngen's who's boss. That sounds like such a tough course. You'll be likely feeling this one for a while. Nicely done - is this a big pr for you?

From Snoqualmie on Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 18:28:26 from 24.18.192.33

Great race! Sorry about the negatives, but the memory of those will fade soon, right? Congrats on the AG win - very nice.

From Paul on Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 19:07:11 from 174.27.196.20

Great job! Isn't this a PR and your first time under 3:00? Where's the cheering and fanfare?

I considered doing this race until I emailed the race management to ask if it was a closed course. They said, "no", and that closed the deal for me, plus I wanted to be done for the year. I've heard too many bad things about MM and traffic control, so this one just adds to the list.

From Superfly on Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 22:00:13 from 208.117.127.110

Great race Scott. I'd hoped my details would help someone. People all to often go into races with a false perception of what the course is like (I've done it too many times). Anyways you ran GREAT on that course. The one thing that you guys had going yesterday was the weather was great and altitude. Mesquite is under 2,000 ft so that can help the lungs. But on some of those hills not too much:)

Once again Congrats!

From Walter on Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 22:52:59 from 76.27.15.208

Oh yeah Scott, I really didnt comment enough on the mountainous hills we ran on but I agree with the aid stations. pathetic! And I did come close to getting clipped a few times by Nevada drivers. I hate them! Sorry if I offend but Nevada drivers have no clue! They drive slow in the passing lane and leave the slow lane for passing. Very frustrating driving through Nevada! I hate it. Back to commenting, Ill have to look at Clydes elevation. I do know about the first 6 miles had down and then it felt flat and then the hill started. I hated looking 1 mile+ ahead and seeing for ever. I like TOU and other Canyons that hide that better.

From Dave S on Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 23:15:07 from 4.254.224.120

Scott, great job. Congrats on the PR, sub 3, and winning the masters. That's a bummer about the traffic and aid stations but it sounds like you had some nice weather and a good time. I'm sure your glad you went.

From Nan Kennard on Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 23:25:49 from 174.51.250.151

Wow. What a mess. Such disappointing race organization. Good job running strong and going sub-3:00 anyway. Glad you didn't get hit by the truck!

From redrooster on Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 12:00:18 from 129.123.3.31

thanks everyone, I appreciate all the kind comments, you guys are awesome!

Cody, yes, a PR, but I still needed you at mile 20 to bring me in. next time..

Paul, I think I lost my cheering and fanfare along with my sportcount at about mile 20..

Clyde- I owe you big time for providing an accurate description ahead of time so I knew what was coming. Thank you! If I hadn't been prepared for it I probably would have cried like a baby on about the third or fourth of those hills..

From Jon on Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 12:12:02 from 75.169.150.52

Hey, awesome job, Scott. I can't believe you PR'ed on this less-than-ideal course, after all your injuries. You should be proud. We better watch out or you'll be whupping up on us soon, too.

From JD on Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 18:04:42 from 70.96.78.157

Way to kick butt in a poorly organized and tough coursed marathon! I wonder why anyone would even desire to direct a race so poorly thought out.

Awesome time though. You're going to fly in a proper marathon next time.

From Adam RW on Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 22:59:19 from 155.101.240.107

Nice time. Especially having to figure out your own aid stations. Have fun in Boston!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.000.000.000.000.00



Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
3.100.000.000.003.10

river trail to second dam bridge. snow on trail but not too bad. 8:20 pace.

NB 790 Pair 2 Miles: 3.10
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
3.100.000.000.003.10

happy thanksgiving!

NB 790 Miles: 3.10
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From Bonnie on Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 21:46:56 from 64.119.33.134

Happy Thanksgiving to you too!!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.000.000.000.007.00

 7 very easy river trail

NB 1062 Pair 1 Miles: 7.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
3.100.000.000.003.10

easy

NB 790 Miles: 3.10
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From Jon on Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 00:54:23 from 71.218.105.79

hard

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.500.000.000.006.50

dang it!! in the theme of the blog I had my own dog attack today. ran from USU up to green canyon and then on to the bonneville shoreline trail. Some stupid guy was on the trail with two dogs off leashes (against the law). when one of them saw me running towards them it came after me barking and took a couple nips at me. It got a couple hits in but I don't think it broke the skin. So I yelled at this schmuck when he got his dog back, really let him have it, but stupidly I didn't follow my own advice, which is that I should have hauled that sorry sucker down to the police station and filed a report and had him fined for having dogs off their leashes. Part of the problem is I don't wear my cochlear implant to run, so I can't communicate. So it is easier just to yell and leave, and I was also a half mile down the trail. But now in retrospect I have had enough. I am going to pick up some pepper spray at cal ranch and put it in my running jacket. next dog that attacks me gets a face full of that.

NB 790 Miles: 6.50
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From Jon on Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 18:05:39 from 138.64.2.76

I hope this happens Saturday so I can see it. Just don't spray me if I happen to sneak up on you and surprise you from behind.

From redrooster on Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 18:08:14 from 129.123.3.31

just don't bare your teeth at me or bite me and you should be OK.

geez I am ticked off. mostly at myself, as I shouldn't have let the schmuck off that easy. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR...

From Burt on Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 18:25:49 from 12.231.112.98

Hopefully the guy learned his lesson. Did he seem apologetic?

How bad is your hearing without your implant? How well does it work?

From redrooster on Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 21:30:36 from 71.219.145.201

Burt, I have a small amount of residual hearing in my left ear, so I can hear very loud noises, but no ability to discriminate speech (the hearing loss is in the "profound" region). But I can communicate a bit with a high-powered hearing aid in that ear by also watching lips. I lost my hearing too late in life to learn to read lips properly or to sign. the right ear is implanted with the CI, so that ear has no hearing whatsoever as the cochlear structure has been removed. The CI device itself works great, very clear hearing when I am wearing it, but it is hard to run with, and sweat can short circuit it, so I tend not to run with it in. I almost never wear the hearing aid as the sound from the CI is far superior.

At mesquite, I wore my hearing aid (not CI) to the starting line so I could hear the instructions and gun, then carried it to mile 11 where I gave it to my wife. So from mile 11-26 I had no ability to hear anything. It was still hard to hear anything at the start.

None of this bothers me particularly, except when I get into an altercation like today. The guy was probably apologetic, and I didn't swear at him or anything, just yelled at him to leash his dog, but it gets frustrating when you can't have a two way conversation while running when things like this happen. So I tend to get very frustrated.

I could carry my CI on runs, but it is a bit bulky, and I am afraid I might lose it or damage it I may start carrying my hearing aid for emergencies though. I do wear a med alert bracelet with info about the CI and medical implant in case of an emergency.

From Burt on Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 22:51:33 from 98.177.216.165

I did not know that about you. That is very interesting. I looked up cochlear implant on Wikipedia after I read your entry. I never even knew they existed.

From Nan Kennard on Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 16:24:29 from 174.51.250.151

Interesting story. I've let dog owners have a piece of my mind for dogs off leash too. VERY irritating. Lets hope your outburst was as effective as a citation at least for this dog owner. I'd sure rather pay money for a citation than be yelled at by a guy who my dog just bit. Especially if it was a guy who wouldn't even listen to me and hear my apology. ;)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.500.000.000.005.50

I ran part of this North Logan-Hyde park canal trail Paul keeps advertising. Started at 3100 north and ran to 600  south in Hyde park and back. didn't wear a GPS watch so I kind of gmapped it. Looks like about 2.75 miles out and back.  good trail, but a little rough in spots, especially since I was wearing the five fingers. 43:30 so about a 7:54 pace I guess. PM 2.5 about 16.

 

Vibram Five Finger Sprints Miles: 5.50
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From Paul on Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 16:17:21 from 76.27.122.123

Oh, I should have warned you. They dredged the canal after they drained it earlier this fall, and dumped all the muck on the trail. That is why it's so rough in some spots. Very muddy when it thaws out, too. Before they did that, it was quite smooth and wonderful. But we'll beat it down into smooth submission again.

By the way, you ran to 600 S in Smithfield, not Hyde Park. You can keep going north on the trail for another 1.1 miles, until you get to the golf course. It turns to pavement for about 0.4 miles, then back to dirt after you cross 300 S.

From redrooster on Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 19:15:47 from 129.123.3.31

Paul, thanks, I was wondering why there was all those mud piles on there. it is a nice trail and would be really great if someone graded it. maybe we can borrow a backhoe or something?

From Paul on Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 19:19:34 from 76.27.122.123

Rumor has it, they are thinking about piping the whole canal, and putting a paved trail over the top of it. Pie in the sky though.

This time of year, you can always run in the canal itself. It is nice and graded, thanks to the recent dredging.

From redrooster on Tue, Dec 01, 2009 at 19:33:27 from 129.123.3.31

I hope if they do that they don't pave it but leave it as a dirt or a gravel trail, like the shoreline trail. too much asphalt here already.

good idea on using the empty canal, I may try that!

From Aaron Kennard on Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 11:31:31 from 174.51.250.151

How often do you run in FiveFingers? Have you ever had any chaffing or problems with them? I'm curious to know other people's experience, but not a lot of people use them. My only problem with them so far happened when I was running around a circular track indoor and they rubbed weird in some spots.

From Bonnie on Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 18:28:53 from 128.196.228.134

What's up Red? Did your toes fall off after running in the 5-fingers or are you running and not blogging or are you just so busy trying to write final exams that you can't run?

From redrooster on Fri, Dec 04, 2009 at 17:26:52 from 129.123.3.31

Aaron, before I started marathon training in earnest I was running two days a week in them, and the rest in light shoes. Then I had to switch to real shoes as my calves just couldnt take it. I like the FF, I htink they are good for strengthening the feet and ankles and conditioning muscles when the weekly load is reasonable, but once I started doing 20 milers I had to abandon them. I plan to go back to two days a week in them now that the marathon stuff is behind me.

Bonnie- my toes are still sort of intact but it was indeed cold in those FF! but my main problem is indeed the end of the semester, yikes, and then I leave for a meeting the day after finals next week and have to prepare a talk for that. so blogging and running have been kind of on the back burner... bummer...

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.600.000.000.006.60

USU BST loop 7:54 average

NB 790 Miles: 6.60
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.100.000.000.007.10

USU to GC 7:46 average pace

Wave Rider 11 Miles: 7.10
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.500.000.000.008.50

a providence millville loop from my house in the snow. tough hill on 100 east. cold wind. still feel wiped out and tired, have no pep in my legs. 7:52 average.

 

NB 790 Pair 2 Miles: 8.50
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From Carolyn in Colorado on Sat, Dec 05, 2009 at 23:05:39 from 24.8.167.243

A snowy hill sounds tough.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.100.000.000.007.10

USU to green canyon. outside in the cold wind. actually wasn't that bad. now I am working furiously on a new talk for my lecture at the West Coast Bacterial Physiologists meeting on Friday in Carmel. And I have two finals Wednesday and have to get my grades in before leaving. Time is a valuable commodity right now. anyway I hope it is freezing cold here this weekend and nice in Monterey.

53:27,  7:32 pace

NB 790 Miles: 7.10
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From Steve Piccolo on Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 20:03:03 from 155.100.160.214

I hope it snows in Carmel and is warm and sunny here!

From redrooster on Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 21:45:03 from 71.219.121.116

Sgteve, if it is any consolation there is 100% chance of rain the whole time I will be in Asilomar. but at least the air will be breathable I guess.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.000.000.000.005.00

snowy and slippery. 7:36 pace

NB 790 Miles: 5.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.700.000.000.004.70

cold. bad air. only solution, the dreaded track. ran about 10 strides and varied the pace just to stay sane. worked well in the five fingers. I will bring them to California to run in the rain on the beach and coast trails.

 

Vibram Five Finger Sprints Miles: 4.70
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.500.000.000.006.50

I am at the Asilomar conference grounds in Pacific grove. it was 10 below when I left Logan this morning and 60 when I arrived here. ha ha ha. intermittent rain but hasn't rained on my runs. again ha ha ha. ran 6.5 from Asilomar to almost Monterey 7:18 pace. along the coast. nice clean air, warm. again ha ha ha

NB 790 Pair 2 Miles: 6.50
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
9.300.000.000.009.30

today I ran from Asilomar along 17 mile drive toward Carmel on the pedestrian dirt trails that wind along the coast.incredibly scenic, this is paradise. perfect weather just a little windy. I hear it is snowing and cold in Utah. ha ha ha. 9.3 miles 7:35 pace

NB 790 Pair 2 Miles: 9.30
Comments
From Steve Piccolo on Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 14:24:55 from 66.60.123.141

You're evil.

From Aaron Kennard on Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 20:23:12 from 174.51.250.151

That sounds pretty sweet. Thanks for not rubbing it in.

From redrooster on Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 21:31:25 from 64.168.229.15

well, if it is any consolation I am now stuck in San Jose airport as my flight home got delayed.... that's what I get for gloating.

From Jon on Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 21:57:25 from 75.169.136.120

Actually, the Sat run was pretty nice weather!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.100.000.000.007.10

back to reality. at least the air is clear. USU to GC 7.1 miles 7:43

NB 790 Pair 2 Miles: 7.10
Comments
From Jon on Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 23:58:58 from 75.169.141.225

No worries, Christmas is coming.

From redrooster on Tue, Dec 08, 2009 at 00:14:42 from 71.219.121.116

Jon, contrary to popular belief, we poor academicians actually work while the students take their holiday breaks. I will be madly writing papers and reviewing grant proposals for NIH over the christmas break. sigh. I need a vacation. bad.

From Bonnie on Tue, Dec 08, 2009 at 14:56:59 from 64.119.33.134

I hear you red! That conference sounds exciting - "almost" as exciting as the Joint Statistical Meetings ;-). Good luck on your talk, finals, etc.

From redrooster on Tue, Dec 08, 2009 at 16:30:41 from 129.123.3.31

thanks Bonnie, if I can survive just five more days.......

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.000.000.000.006.00

prov millville home loop slow

NB 790 Pair 2 Miles: 6.00
Comments
From Cody on Tue, Dec 08, 2009 at 14:35:00 from 69.9.58.17

Its either impressive that you got out in this snow, or stupid. Not sure which.

BTW, I think you have skipped a week in December. Christmas will come really early this way...

From Burt on Tue, Dec 08, 2009 at 14:51:52 from 12.231.112.98

Good catch Cody.

Slippery and a 7:36 pace. You must've been Apollo Onoing it. (Is that a word?)

From redrooster on Tue, Dec 08, 2009 at 15:17:08 from 129.123.3.31

geez I am all messed up here I cant even keep track of what week it is. thanks for the catch. I may very well be losing my mind... now what do I do??

From Burt on Tue, Dec 08, 2009 at 15:26:22 from 12.231.112.98

Pay it forward. And I don't even know what that means, but it sounds cool.

From Kelli on Wed, Dec 09, 2009 at 20:02:58 from 71.219.71.229

I was so confused....had to check the calendar and see if Christmas was closer than I thought.

Nice slippery run!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.300.002.000.006.30

treadmill, yuck. 4 x 0.5 miles at 6 minute pace just for something to do.waiting for good air again. did the "intervals" in the five fingers. I don't likethe five fingers on the treadmill- too much traction from the rubber on rubber. the soles were hot and my feet hurt. 

Vibram Five Finger Sprints Miles: 3.00NB 790 Miles: 3.30
Comments
From Aaron Kennard on Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 22:31:01 from 174.51.250.151

I don't like the FiveFingers on the treadmill that much either, especially trying to go fast. I tend to get blisters trying to push the pace on the treadmill with those. Going slow doesn't bother my feet as much.

From redrooster on Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 23:46:40 from 71.219.142.235

yes, they dont seem to work well on the TM. you are really proving they workin the winter in the most extreme conditions, the saturday report was amazing, nice job, and keeping me inspired to stay with the FF!!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.500.000.000.007.50

provo river trail, up to where tkey have it closed. kind of icey in spots.

My left foot and shin are giving me a little trouble, so I think it is time to cut back, do a lot of PT  stretching/strengthening stuff and cross training, and try to recover for the spring. This is a good chance to try to strengthen my hip, calf, and foot I guess. I still think that the five fingers and minimal shoes are still the best way to strengthen the foot and shin, so will run mostly in those while doing some cross training. The winter inversion is sapping my motivational level for running outdoors anyway. Maybe I will do some water running Monday.

NB 790 Pair 2 Miles: 7.50
Comments
From Bonnie on Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 13:50:44 from 128.196.228.134

Enjoy your "winter break" (from running that is) recharge and come back strong! Good luck getting caught up over the winter break from school. I am really looking forward to focusing on my grants and papers for a change!

From redrooster on Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 16:14:10 from 129.123.3.31

thanks Bonnie! I have to focus on writing grants and papers this semester as well, I am backlogged pretty well right now and in panic mode. Unfortunately I will have a stack of NIH grants coming for study section in about a week. sigh... I cannot wait for my term there to end.

Have a great break!!

From Bonnie on Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 16:16:20 from 128.196.228.134

So far I have managed to stay as "ad hoc" and therefore can say no ... which I have twice this semester. Good luck ... I like the new scoring system, and will really like the new page limits (for reviewing, not submitting).

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.000.000.000.005.00

was going to water run but forgot a swimsuit. then I thought about the elliptical and spinner bike. but them I found Carol R. running laps in the indoor track so just joined her for five miles, two of them in five fingers. ran 8 100 yard strides just to break up the monotony. a bunch of people decided today would be a nice day to play indoor cricket on the indoor track in the fieldhouse so we had lots of fun dodging them. I guess it is really a track/cricket field.

 

Vibram Five Finger Sprints Miles: 2.00NB 790 Miles: 3.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.500.000.000.005.50

43 minutes of water running. whee

Comments
From Aaron Kennard on Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 01:15:16 from 174.51.250.151

how do you do water running? Do you have access to an under water treadmill or do you just run in the lap pool somehow?

From Jon on Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 01:58:23 from 198.60.103.104

He actually just stands in his bathtub with 6" of water and swings his legs... :)

From redrooster on Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 16:37:01 from 70.234.2.232

Aaron,I had the same question as you when I first did it, it made no sense. fortunately I wasn't gullible enough to listed to Jon, though that is what he told me to do.

you just put a water running belt on, jump in the pool where it is deep enough to be above your head, and simulate running. in our pool they have a portion of the diving pool roped off for it. laps won't work if they aren't over your head as your feet will scrape the bottom. you do actually go somewhere, just real slow. I try to vary the pace/intensity doing what Cody told me to do. Like 1-2-3-4-5-4-3-2-1 minute intensity ladders with recoveries.

It is actually a pretty good workout, and takes the load off the legs at the same time so no impact. good for injury recovery or in my case, trying to minimize pounding for awhile.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.500.000.000.007.50

San Marcos CA pedestrian/equistraian trail system, packed dirt, absolutely perfect for the five fingers. did 5.1 miles inthe fives, then switched into shoes for 2.4 more putting in about 6 strides. averaged 7:10 for the workout.

sixty degrees at 9AM, sunny, beautiful clear air, lots of oxygen. running at 7:10 pace here feels like 7:45 pace in Logan.

Vibram Five Finger Sprints Miles: 5.10NB 790 Pair 2 Miles: 2.40
Comments
From Paul on Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 16:51:42 from 174.23.191.243

Sounds very nice.

From Aaron Kennard on Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 20:14:17 from 174.51.250.151

Merry 'non-white' Christmas! Glad to hear you're enjoying the warm sea level running, its sounds VERY nice indeed. Glad your legs seem to be feeling good. Just curious, why did you switch shoes part way through the run?

From redrooster on Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 20:51:56 from 70.234.2.232

thanks, the warmth is indeed nice. I switched into shoes because I have to be very careful not to overload my calves in those five fingers. Right now even five miles is pushing it. they are great for strengthening the feet but they sure push my calves hard. the "shoes" I am running in though are very minimalist as well. they are a 7 ounce trail running shoe that feels like a racing flat. very flexible and light. My rigid tight high arched feet hate real shoes now and I am convinced rigid cushioned shoes caused my injuries last spring.

Right now I am still fighting posterior tibial and shin problems, but I am putting my faith in the minimal approach. It seemed to work before, then the calf problems occurred, and I had to switch to real shoes for the last part of marathon training to let my calves heal, but that gave me more shin problems... so it is kind of an ongoing duel for me. I am told my feet architecture is the worst possible for running (high rigid arches, and I supinate badly, especially my left foot). Anyway, Lieberman thinks the minimal/five finger approach will work long term, so I will stick with it for now!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.200.000.000.008.20

well, the kids were all preoccupied with new video games so I took off and went to explore Daley ranch again. Last December I went in from Cougar pass, big mistake, huge nasty uphill climb, too much for me. so this year I tried going on from Valley center road first. nope, another mistake, still a killer climb and I had to give up after 1.3 miles and go back. So then I drove to the main entrance on La Honda drive. I should have done that to start with. After a 0.4 mile steep uphill climb up an asphalt access road  the nice level soft dirt trails began on a fairly level high plateau and there was some incredible trail running with amazing scenery. I did the middle pond/east ridge/jack creek meadow loop. a great run, anyone coming to the San Diego area should do this one for sure. and lots of harder technical stuff for true trail runners. ran about a 9:05 average including the nasty nasty hill I did on castillo trail to start.

NB 790 Pair 2 Miles: 8.20
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
1.365.000.000.006.36

San Marcos pedestrian/equistrian trails. 0.9 mile warmup, then 5 mile tempo at 6:30 average pace. then 0.46 mile cooldown.

NB 790 Pair 2 Miles: 6.20
Comments
From Dave S on Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 21:28:14 from 12.174.32.2

Nice tempo. The weather sounds great. I'm probably going down there some time in Feb. Can't wait. You've really been missing out on some nice running back up here in near zero temps with bad air. Bet you can't wait to get back. Ha ha.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.500.000.000.006.50

five fingers 6.5 miles. was a little warm for running, 66 degrees. fortunately there was a nice breeze coming in from the ocean, and shade from the foliage on portions of the packed dirt trails here in San Marcos. 7:27 average

Vibram Five Finger Sprints Miles: 6.50
Comments
From Aaron Kennard on Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 16:18:20 from 24.2.84.184

Could you just leave out the temperature comments for the benefit of those of us in the rockies still?? Just kidding, its nice to hear somebody is warm at least. Nice run.

From redrooster on Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 16:28:19 from 70.234.2.232

ha ha I am just seeing if anyone is paying attention. but yes it is really really nice down here and no I don't want to come back to Utah. I don't mind the cold really, it is the air quality i can't take. hopefully some storms will line up to clean things out soon.

From Paul on Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 16:34:04 from 76.27.122.123

I think air quality will improve in the next day or two, and stay good for a little while. It looks like we have a string of "unsettled weather" coming in, which is good for breathing, bad for footing.

From redrooster on Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 00:31:57 from 76.194.190.173

hey Paul, -- who ever thought I would be cheering for the bears in a football game? but I have to begrudgingly admit- brent looked pretty good in the 2nd half. which is the only half I watched. no way I could watch a whole bears-viking game, that would be worse than running in Logans air.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.100.000.000.0010.10

Daley ranch, Escondido CA. started out going out the jack creek meadow loop. took a couple side trails to explore a bit. exited the park on the north end and found a house overlooking it that I would like to buy and live in. But I am guessing it is a few million out of my price range. ran back into the park and greeted a few coyotes. then turned onto the sage trail, started to follow it with no idea where it was going, not carrying a map. hmmm... kept going, and going... made some turns, ended up at Dixon lake, had no map so had no idea where I was. drank my first 6 ounces of water, I was smart enough to carry two fuel belt bottles.... then followed some single track trails around the lake, picked up a road, and found the entrance to the park about a half mile away. ha ha ha what good planning! here is the gmap of my adventure trail run. now I know my way around daley ranch in any event. 10.1 miles 8:38 average pace

NB 790 Pair 2 Miles: 10.10
Comments
From Steve Piccolo on Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 00:50:32 from 66.60.123.141

Sounds like a fun adventure. That house must be worth well over $1 billion if it's a few million out of your price range. :)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.000.000.002.006.00

8 x about 0.25 miles on dirt pedestiran trails, averaging about 80 seconds but slower on the first one.

NB 790 Pair 2 Miles: 6.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.500.000.000.006.50

6.5 miles San Marcos in five fingers 7:21 average. got up to 75 today.

Vibram Five Finger Sprints Miles: 6.50
Comments
From Jon on Wed, Jan 06, 2010 at 23:17:58 from 75.169.138.167

75 seconds per quarter?

From Jon on Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 00:38:27 from 75.169.141.185

Scott?

From redrooster on Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 22:12:05 from 63.226.92.94

yeah, still alive, just kind of got sidetracked after the holiday and got behind on the blog. will try to get caught up!!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
1525.26178.2080.1085.821869.38
Asics Nimbus Miles: 27.85Mizuno Wave Rider 10 Miles: 180.69Saucony Triumph Miles: 186.22Mizuno Wave Precision Miles: 66.70NB 1062 Pair 1 Miles: 124.50Saucony Triumph 5 Miles: 39.30Mizuno Precision 9 Miles: 82.20Asics Speedstar Miles: 91.40Montrail Hardrock Miles: 7.00Vibram Five Finger Sprints Miles: 155.41NB 790 Miles: 285.09Brooks T4 Miles: 132.84Asics Gel Hyperspeed Miles: 108.85NB 790 Pair 2 Miles: 96.60Wave Rider 11 Miles: 105.40Mizuno Wave Ronin Miles: 36.20
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