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Location:

Lake Orion,MI,

Member Since:

Dec 28, 2011

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Other

Running Accomplishments:

PRs

16:52 Phillies Charities 5k (2016)

35:52 Beach to Beacon 10k (2015)

58:10 Broad Street 10 Mile (2016)

1:16:02 Philadelphia Rock and Roll Half Marathon (2015)

2:46:54 Philadelphia Marathon (2015)

Personal:

I live in Michigan with my wife, Megan, and our boys, Charlie and Sawyer. I started running in September 2010.

(Please note that Strava links might contain blog inappropriate langauge)

 

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Miles:This week: 34.80 Month: 129.20 Year: 677.60
Miles With Megan Lifetime Miles: 613.75
Nike Zoom Streak LT2 White/Orange Lifetime Miles: 189.95
Saucony Kinvara 5 Viziglow Lifetime Miles: 530.45
Kinvara 10 Lifetime Miles: 186.30
Kinvara 10 II Lifetime Miles: 137.80
Miles With The Boys Lifetime Miles: 99.90
Nike Zoom Streak LT4 Mr. Pinks Lifetime Miles: 21.60
Saucony ISO Freedom 3 Lifetime Miles: 631.45
Saucony ISO Freedom 3 #2 Lifetime Miles: 154.30
Altra Rivera Lifetime Miles: 337.95
Altra Rivera (Dark Blue) Lifetime Miles: 129.10
Saucony Kinvara 5 (2023 Vault Shoe) Lifetime Miles: 263.15
Saucony Kinvara 5 (2023 Vault Shoe II) Lifetime Miles: 250.70
Saucony Kinvara 13 Lifetime Miles: 226.60
Saucony Endorphin Pro Lifetime Miles: 193.50
Saucony Freedom 5 Lifetime Miles: 59.30
Saucony Kinvara 13 #2 Lifetime Miles: 35.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
3500.37176.05206.6665.333948.41
Kinvara 5 Miles: 249.70Newton Gravity III Miles: 224.25Newton Gravity LE Miles: 239.80Saucony Kinvara 2 (2) Miles: 31.20Mizuno Musha Miles: 237.90Newton Sir Isaacs (wide) Miles: 8.00Saucony Fastwitch Miles: 20.75Altra The One Miles: 8.25Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 432.05Saucony A5 Miles: 215.00Kinvara 2 White/Blue Miles: 224.50Saucony Kinvara 4 Miles: 13.00Newton MV3 Miles: 44.75Saucony A6 Miles: 106.66Inov-8 Roclite 295 Miles: 166.95Newton Flat 5 Miles: 27.00Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 496.70Salomon SL Sense Ultra Miles: 34.80Miles With Megan Miles: 94.30Nike Zoom Streak LT2 Miles: 188.45Nike Victory Spikes Miles: 6.25Saucony Ride 7 Miles: 367.50Kinvara 5 White/Black Miles: 188.50Saucony Fastwitch 7 Miles: 151.20Nike Zoom Streak LT2 White/Orange Miles: 38.25New Balance Zante Miles: 75.00Saucony ISO Triumph Miles: 92.60Kinvara 5 Black/White 2 Miles: 27.50Yaktrax Miles: 21.30
Weight: 173.63
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.000.000.000.000.00

Nothing.

Weight: 0.00
Comments
From flatlander on Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 05:32:59 from 76.31.29.220

You ran it perfectly in light of the big race next week. Good luck on the B2B encore.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.000.000.000.000.00

Basically took up space. Drove 8 hours back to Philadelphia from Toledo. Megan and I had a rough day. Just trying to figure everything out for the present and the future.

Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.300.000.000.0010.30

Forbidden Drive (NW) - 10.3 miles, averaged 7:36

35 and pouring rain. Good run though. Feel like I got my head on straight. I got pretty dirty though.

Exhibit A:

 

Kinvara 5 Miles: 10.30
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Jake K on Sun, Jan 04, 2015 at 19:49:12 from 98.202.128.218

Your shoes are cleaner than your legs!

From Jason D on Sun, Jan 04, 2015 at 19:57:18 from 68.80.27.222

You should see what I pulled out of the inside of the shoes. Not quite a handful, but maybe a small handful between the two shoes.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.500.000.000.0010.50

Germantown to Roxborough - 10.5 miles, averaged 7:48

Did a little exploring on the other side of the creek. Plenty of hills. Not sure how much as both Strava and Garmin Connect are being crappy. Crappy like my Garmin 610. The pin popped out twice on this run and it has done it before. Not super impressed.

Newton Gravity III Miles: 10.50
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Bret on Sun, Jan 04, 2015 at 14:01:01 from 99.1.220.106

A very common issue/flaw that I have heard with the 610. I have also heard that Garmin is pretty good about getting it corrected though, if you need a replacement.

From Jason D on Sun, Jan 04, 2015 at 14:35:20 from 68.80.27.222

I'll see if I can send it in for repair. It did it pretty early on and I haven't used it much. Thanks.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.500.000.000.0010.50

Forbidden Drive (SE) - 10.5 miles, averaged 8:07

Newton Gravity LE Miles: 10.50
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.700.000.000.0010.70

AM/Lunch: Forbidden Drive (SE) - 10.7 miles, averaged 7:48

First day in screw shoes of the season. Not much snow but I worried about the downhills.

PM: 50 minutes on the bike while Megan was on the treadmill. My butt is sore. That grandma comfort seat just ain't cutting it. Got a decent sweat going even though my breathing wasn't super taxed. The New Years Resies were slamming the weight stacks. In jeans.

Saucony Kinvara 2 (2) Miles: 10.70
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Bret on Wed, Jan 07, 2015 at 07:29:56 from 216.234.133.229

In jeans. Nice. I have a friend who saw someone running with a HRM chest strap on the outside of his shirt. When he tried to nicely let the guy know it needs to have contact with the skin to be properly functional, the guy flipped him off.

From Jason D on Wed, Jan 07, 2015 at 14:57:19 from 68.80.27.222

Sometimes all you can do is try!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
13.250.000.000.0013.25

Medium Long Run route - 13.25, averaged 7:42

Pretty cold with the gusting wind. Had to break out the tights for the first time this year.

Forbidden Drive in the winter:

Saucony Kinvara 2 (2) Miles: 13.25
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From allie on Wed, Jan 07, 2015 at 15:57:15 from 24.30.41.119

what a great place to run! that's a pretty winter scene, and i bet those trees make for beautiful greenery in the summer and brilliant orangery in the fall. i like it.

From Jason D on Wed, Jan 07, 2015 at 19:25:34 from 68.80.27.222

No mountains and magical views like Utah, but I quite enjoy my dirt and it's a lovely neighborhood. Fall was glorious. The creek is nice in the summer even though there's no swimming permitted. I blew a workout this summer and sat in it a while to cool down/cool down.

From Matt Schreiber on Wed, Jan 07, 2015 at 21:21:33 from 66.17.102.175

Looks like a neat run. Although it's hard to say neat about a picture that has snow in it... :)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
9.000.000.000.009.00

AM/Lunch: Treadmill - 9 miles in 63 minutes. Did a little over 43 minutes @ 9 MPH

Mizuno Musha Miles: 9.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From SlowJoe on Fri, Jan 09, 2015 at 10:49:49 from 107.77.66.119

Pretty quick TM run, nice work.

From Jason D on Fri, Jan 09, 2015 at 12:26:46 from 68.80.27.222

I'm sore. And embarrassed about it :-)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.000.000.000.008.00

Chestnut Hill College Hill Loop - 8 miles, averaged 8:01

Around 8:10-8:20 pace until I came down Germantown Hill and ran after 8-minute Guy. Trail was icy and I didn't want to wear my screws because they get too much wear in the ~2.5 mile jaunt there. Looks like Philly police caught so more jerks breaking into peoples' cars (they wait for people to go into the park, then strike) as I was exiting and getting ready to climb the College hill.

I am sore from yesterday, which is embarrassing.

PM2: 40 minutes on the bike while Megan ran on the treadmill. Ace Ventura came on and I almost continued, but I had a long enough warm up for weights. Did a set of weights.

The apartment complex got a new treadmill to replace the one with the broken plug. Bad for them, good for me! It goes faster than 6:00 pace, has a new taut belt, and feels pretty accurate. What more do I need?! I gave it a quick stride at 5:12 pace to test it.

Newton Sir Isaacs (wide) Miles: 8.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Jake K on Fri, Jan 09, 2015 at 12:51:36 from 159.212.71.200

You should hide in the trees and when you see a thief strike, strike him back with a citizen's roundhouse kick. You'll need to wear the screw shoes for this to work properly.

From Jason D on Fri, Jan 09, 2015 at 13:28:30 from 68.80.27.222

I've thought about volunteering my chasing skills. But your comment also reminds me of the Roadhouse episode of Family Guy where Peter kicks everyone and everything and shouts "Roadhouse!"

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.050.000.000.008.05

Lunch: Treadmill - 8 miles in 62 minutes. Did some strides for the first time since before Philly.

The newer treadmill goes faster than I thought. Put it down to what I though was the top speed of 5:12 pace and all of a sudden I was staring at 4:24 pace. I finished up, hopped on the sides, and put it up all the way to 14 MPH. Sounds like a jet taking off, but it is nice to have for something for hill sprints, strides, etc, when I need a treadmill.

PM: 30 minutes on the bike while Megan was on the treadmill. Then ab bench, pushups, and stretching

Mizuno Musha Miles: 8.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From jtshad on Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 11:54:15 from 69.20.183.178

I love putting the TM at 14mph and running for as long as I can...fun to see the stares you get when it is going that fast!

From Jason D on Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 14:45:24 from 68.80.27.222

Not too many people running faster than 8 MPH in the complex that I've seen, so I think I just *might* have impressed the weightlifters, if just a little.

Looks like you had a hard workout yesterday!

From Rob Murphy on Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 15:06:45 from 24.10.247.181

I'm not aware of a treadmill in Salt Lake that goes faster than 12 mph.

You didn't get flung off the back?

From Jason D on Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 18:10:27 from 68.80.27.222

Are you saying I can't keep up? :-)

I didn't try running on it, but I did hit some in the 12.5-13.5 range for a few stretches. I straddled the belt and let it fly after I finished.

I pretty much hit a wall at 4:20-4:25 pace on 200s on the track. I've got better at running faster, but my top end speed has remained pretty muchthe same.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.500.000.000.0010.50

Forbidden Drive (SE) 10.5 miles, averaged 7:23. Did some strides at the end.

Saucony Fastwitch Miles: 10.50
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.250.000.000.008.25

AM/Lunch: Treadmill - 8.25 miles in 61 minutes.

Did 20 minutes @ 9 MPH, but felt tired so I didn't continue what I had planned. Did some strides at the end. Followed up the run with core (ab bench) and stretching.

 

Altra The One Miles: 8.25
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Matt Schreiber on Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 21:22:34 from 66.17.102.175

Good stuff Jason. Good to see the core sneaking in there.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.000.000.000.004.00

Lunch - Treadmill - 4 miles in 28:22. Didn't leave myself enough time between not wanting to get out of bed on the first day of classes and printing syllabi. I'll get something in before dinner, either a run or some time on the bike. Weather looks glorious in the 10-day forecast (35-45). Time to get serious about base building.

PM: 60 minutes on the bike. The treadmill walkers were out in force pre-dinner. Serves me right for being lazy this morning. First day of classes was fine.

Mizuno Musha Miles: 4.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Matt Schreiber on Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 11:29:23 from 24.196.59.126

It's that time of year again.. base miles and treadmill walkers.

From Jason D on Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 12:01:18 from 68.80.27.222

Some days avoiding the zero is all you can ask for!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
17.000.000.000.0017.00

North West Philly LR Loop - 17 miles, averaged 7:43

Felt pretty good today, but I really didn't want to run. Explored some new areas, including the Manayunk Tow Path (take a left instead of a right on the Schuykill River Trail toward Valley Forge), which I quite liked and enjoyed the ruins and grafftti. Forbidden Drive was pretty icy but I still kept an honest pace through there (7:30-7:50).

Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 17.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From SlowJoe on Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 12:34:23 from 12.182.148.249

The ancient ruins of Philadelphia...looks nice!

Nice 17. Pretty solid mid-week work.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
11.300.000.000.0011.30

AM: Treadmill - very easy hour + strides. Then a set of bench, incline, and shoulder presses.

PM: Treadmill - 4 miles in 30:22 + core (ab bench) and stretching

Mizuno Musha Miles: 7.30Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 4.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Jake K on Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 10:20:52 from 159.212.71.25

You benching double digits, bro?

From Jason D on Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 10:37:59 from 166.216.165.115

50 big ones. I hope I don't get huge.

From Jason D on Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 10:38:35 from 166.216.165.115

(Do you even bro, Bro?)

From Jake K on Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 10:58:01 from 159.212.71.25

Nah, Brah.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.250.003.000.0010.25

AM: 10.25 miles.

40 minutes out and back to Forbidden Drive (still too icy), and immediately hopped on the treadmill for an improvised workout of 6 x 3 minute farlek with long (2 minute) recovery jogs. 5.25 miles in 35:30.

I was warm in my baselayer, but I had to break up a run with too much time in beween a warm up and workout, so I didn't change. Planned to do 1-2-3-2-1 after 5-6 miles on Forbidden Drive but it looked icy even in the non-shady spots and even though it is almost 40 out. The fast treadmill was taken up by a walker (not a zombie), so I went as fast as the treadmill would allow and just shook some of the cobwebs out.

Had a sandwhich and did some stretching.

I'll be doing a lot more farlek style stuff during base building to take the pressure off before doing my more typical workouts. Plan is to run purely by effort over some uneven dirt and focus on staying tall and relaxed. I think that's traditionally how this running business is supposed to work.
 

Saucony A5 Miles: 10.25
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.000.000.000.005.00

Wrench Loop w/ Megan - 5 miles, averaged 9:23

We looked at all the houses we will never be able to afford.

Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 5.00
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.500.000.000.008.50

Lunch: Treadmill - 8.5 miles in 60:30. Did 30 minutes @ 9 MPH and a few strides in the last 10 minutes. Core (ab bench) + stretching.

I keep trying to talk myself out of a spring marathon, but then I watch this: Philly 2014 Finish

Saucony A5 Miles: 8.50
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Jake K on Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 19:43:16 from 98.202.128.218

Man, you looked strong at that finish. It's such a good feeling to come through the line and have enough in the tank for a fist pump. And hold off the wheelchair!

From Jason D on Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 20:18:03 from 166.216.165.94

I didn't take the partial but Strava had it at 6:00 pace, which seemed about right. I tried to really crush the last half mile or so but my legs would start to lock every time I got the crowd going and tried to sprint. Not as fast as my Sugarloaf finish (5:44ish). I recovered fairly quickly except for the coughing.

Oh, I'm pointing at the clock :-)

Still super happy about that race. Working on getting my shorter distance and weight down for now. Maybe a Sugarloaf if I'm feeling frisky. It's just on the side of too aided even though it's not crazy (the downhill is just sweetly placed). Maybe 3-5 minutes faster than a dead flat course.

From Jason D on Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 20:28:40 from 166.216.165.94

She almost hit me! Or maybe I was the jerk for cutting her off.

From Jake K on Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 09:15:15 from 159.212.71.199

It would be good to keep that option open... that's mid-May(ish)? So no need to make a decision too early... you could decide 6-8 weeks out and do enough marathon work to be ready.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
14.000.000.000.0014.00

Lunch: 9 miles, averaged 7:57

PM: Treadmill - 5 miles. Did a few sets of bench, incline, and shoulder presses.

Kinvara 2 White/Blue Miles: 9.00
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
9.000.000.000.009.00

AM: 9 miles, averaged 7:57 + core work (ab bench)

Newton Gravity LE Miles: 9.00
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
17.250.000.000.0017.25

AM: Medium Long Run Route - 13.25 miles, averaged 7:53. Did a good set of strides.

PM: 15 minutes on the bike + 4 miles in 30:15 on the treadmill. Wasn't planning on running again, but the weights were taken up by stack slammers so I figured I'd burn some more lard.

Mileage is getting up faster than I planned and I've got back to doubles sooner than I usually do this time of year, but I need to run the crazy out.  I'll try to keep it sensible and go from there.

Kinvara 5 Miles: 13.25Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 4.00
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.000.000.000.008.00

AM: Treadmill - 8 miles, mostly easy + strides. Ab bench and stretching after.

Mizuno Musha Miles: 8.00
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
20.000.000.000.0020.00

North West Philly LR Loop - 20 miles, averaged 7:41

The plan was 30k for 30 years old (a day early because tomorrow the weather won't be nearly as pleasant as it was today), but I took an exended turn in Whitemarsh and got too long before coming back into Philadelphia. So 30k with 2k for good luck.

Probably should run Sugarloaf given that I am in pretty solid aerobic shape and I have a solid 4 months until race day.

Kinvara 5 Miles: 20.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Jake K on Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 13:10:20 from 159.212.71.200

Not a bad little 30th bday run. Much more sensible that a 30 miler. You gotta mix it up w/ the units.

Happy 29th for one more day!

From Jason D on Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 15:07:30 from 68.80.27.222

I felt pretty strong at the end, but not another 10 miles strong. That would be another 77 minutes! Gone are the days of 3+ hour long runs. I've been close on a few 24s.

30 x 200 didn't sound super fun either.

From Jason D on Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 15:10:03 from 68.80.27.222

Actually that's not terrible, but I tend to run them well under 5k pace to start and then cut down to ~600-800m pace (for 6-8)

From Bret on Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 16:25:06 from 99.1.220.106

Happy Birthday Jason. (Youngster!)

From Drew on Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 17:18:52 from 24.92.19.68

Happy Birthday! I live in Philly for a year from '96-'97 at the corner of 20th & Chestnut.

I'm trying to visualize your route, but I wasn't doing much running in those days - except at night when it seemed wiser than walking home.

From Jason D on Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 17:29:41 from 166.137.244.113

Thanks, gents.

Drew: you can see if you click the link in my Strava widget. Basically we live at the very opposite end of the city from Center City. We live in a nice neighborhood called Chestnut Hill, the exact last housing area before you enter the suburbs. I don't venture too far toward the city on foot but I walk a little bit to get from the bus to La Salle. Very different from the town of 2000 people I grew up in in Maine. I quite like it here.

From RileyCook on Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 18:01:23 from 73.52.134.194

Happy Birthday! Nice run, but I think you'd have enjoyed 30 200s too!

From Jason D on Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 19:58:47 from 68.80.27.222

Thanks, Riley. I seem to recall a set if 30-34ish 200s on your birthday in recent memory. Maybe next year. Of course, 31 is a good time for a 50k to knock of 31ish miles.

Here it is

http://rileycook.fastrunningblog.com/blog-05-09-2013.html

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.250.000.000.005.25

PM:: Treadmill - 5.25 miles in 40 minutes w/ a few strides. Good set of weights and core.

Mizuno Musha Miles: 5.25
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
9.000.000.000.009.00

PM: 9 miles easy

Kinvara 2 White/Blue Miles: 9.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From SlowJoe on Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 13:09:14 from 104.51.208.13

Looks like I'm a day late but happy 30th! New age group - now you can beat up on the old guys!

From Jason D on Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 13:41:12 from 68.80.27.222

Thanks, Joe. I hadn't thought about the new age group. Probably continue to get beat by young guns and college kids. Hoping this decade will be my prime running years. We will see!

From Matt Schreiber on Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 13:49:38 from 66.17.107.219

Happy birthday Jason! Welcome to the club. :)

From allie on Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 15:59:13 from 24.30.41.119

happy 30 yrs

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
14.000.000.000.0014.00

AM: Treadmill - 9 miles in 62:20 w/ quality minutes based progression + strides. Core and stretching after.

Did 15 minutes up, 20 minutes @ 9 MPH, 15 minutes @ 9.3, 5 minutes @ 8, then some strides in the last 5 minutes. Better than last week. A bit stronger, but nothing impressive. Just trying to tune effort levels during base building.

PM: Treadmill - 5 miles with a few harder strides. Light stretching after

A guy (Mike Popejoy) I had a few classes with at Purdue won RnR New Orleans with what I think is about a minute or so PR. Held off Ben Bruce, but I see he ran a cheeky little sub-63 minute half at the championships. 15 seconds shy of the OT for the half. Still searching for that photo of us from B2B. It's pretty funny (the size difference).

Saucony A5 Miles: 9.00Mizuno Musha Miles: 5.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Jake K on Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 19:24:32 from 98.202.128.218

That's a nice win for Mike, and fast time!

I think Bruce ran that sub 63 in 2014. He's been on a 100% Rock and Roll series tear since then. But I read that he's moving back down to the steeple for 2016.

From Jason D on Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 19:51:15 from 68.80.27.222

Now that I think of it, that's right. I was reading a bit about his RnR conquests the other day, but the article I saw today was from last year at this time.

From Jason D on Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 18:35:04 from 68.80.27.222

He's running LA. Hope he's thinking B standard and not A. Chicago didn't end well. 30k and dropped I think.

From Jake K on Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 20:18:04 from 98.202.128.218

Yeah I saw his name on the entries. He would definitely benefit from being a tad more conservative. He's obviously got some ability and can be a very good marathoner.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.000.000.000.006.00

AM: 6 easy. A little slushy/snowy but not bad. Got slushed by a plow truck #jerkpants

Saucony Kinvara 4 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Jake K on Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 11:01:35 from 159.212.71.77

Better than being hit by a plow truck!

From Jason D on Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 11:02:51 from 166.216.165.95

It wasn't so bad really, but I was tempted to throw some snowballs in return!

From Jake K on Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 11:05:48 from 159.212.71.77

That's how I know you live back east. When it snows here, it's so dry and light that you can't make snowballs :-)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
13.000.000.000.0013.00

PM: 13 miles easy

Kinvara 5 Miles: 13.00
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
9.000.004.000.0013.00

AM: Treadmill - 8.75 miles in a bit over 62 minutes. Did 6 x 4 minutes with 2 minute recovery jogs. Strides at the top of the hour, then core. Bowl of cereal and stretching.

A little faster than last week, a little longer, and shorter recovery. Not much to write coach about but I'll take small increments for now.

PM: Treadmill - 4.25 @ gentleman jogger pace. Did a set of weights (presses).

Why so many treadmill runs? Oh, I don't know. It does force me to get my core, stretching, and weights in, which is part of the idea.

Saucony A5 Miles: 8.75Mizuno Musha Miles: 4.25
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From SlowJoe on Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 19:11:13 from 104.51.208.13

You don't get slushed by plow trucks on the treadmill.

From SlowJoe on Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 19:11:33 from 104.51.208.13

Whatever those are...

From Jason D on Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 19:50:19 from 68.80.27.222

Yeah, but I have nowhere to blow snot rockets!

Plow trucks vary by state. This one was a true plow truck. Some times the road crews in Indiana would plow with pickups . . . I'm not expert but I'm from Maine and I think you are doing this wrong!

From Matt Schreiber on Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 21:41:07 from 66.17.102.175

You haven't been falling much!

I think most everyone I know here has access to at least one plow truck (or skid steer). :)

From Jason D on Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 23:02:14 from 68.80.27.222

I thought of that the other day, Matt! I slid on some snow the other day but caught myself.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
9.000.000.000.009.00

Lunch: 9 miles easy + core and stretching.

Saw this yesterday. A list of current qualifers for the Olympic Trials. Number 63, just behind Ryan Hall, FRB's Paul Petersen. Not sure there are too many on there who have been 3 times (there are a few).

Kinvara 2 White/Blue Miles: 9.00
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.250.000.001.0011.25

PM: 11.25 miles, mostly easy with a throw down in the last mile @ 5:32.

I was pretty pleased when I saw that little Easter egg when I opened Strava. I recovered quickly. I think I will be ready to put a hurtin on my 5k goal in April.

Kinvara 5 Miles: 11.25
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.000.000.000.008.00

PM: 8 miles easy + strides. Core work and stretching after.

Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 8.00
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.860.000.003.6411.50

PM: 11.5 miles, averaged 7:51. Did 10 x 2 minutes w/ 2-minute recovery jogs. Averaged 5:30 for those, which wasn't too bad considering I have 0 speed right now. Effort was under 5k at this point I would say. I just went hard and tried to hang on. Started to smell the first hint of colors and figured I was probably chewing up my o2 toward the end.

I turned my pace off, and taped my boo-booed Garmin 610, which worked fine.Very wet and slushy.

Saucony A5 Miles: 11.50
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From SlowJoe on Mon, Feb 02, 2015 at 18:06:08 from 104.51.208.13

Does red smell like strawberries?

From Jason D on Mon, Feb 02, 2015 at 18:26:53 from 68.80.27.222

Snozberries but my hearing could be off.

From Matt Schreiber on Mon, Feb 02, 2015 at 20:39:44 from 66.17.102.175

Nice workout despite the "zero speed"! Looks like you still have a little.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.250.000.000.0012.25

AM: 7.25 miles easy. Pretty much an ice skating rink the whole way.

PM: Treadmill - 5 miles + strides. Did a set of weights after (presses).

Saucony Kinvara 2 (2) Miles: 7.25Mizuno Musha Miles: 5.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Jake K on Tue, Feb 03, 2015 at 12:53:36 from 159.212.71.200

I do not miss those east coast winters

From Jason D on Tue, Feb 03, 2015 at 18:12:06 from 68.80.27.222

This winter has been very mild. Not many days below ~22-25 and we have maybe had 8 inches of snow total. But Philly gets a lot of up and down weather (e.g. rain yesterday and a good flash freeze last night and this morning).

Not quite like the harsh winter in Indiana last year, knocking out 8 mile tempos in 3 degrees and running 20 mile big workouts on all snow!

44 degrees tomorrow. Probably means I need to squeeze in a long run since it miss it this last week.

From Matt Schreiber on Tue, Feb 03, 2015 at 21:20:29 from 66.17.102.175

44 degrees!? Sounds like it might be a little damp. Have a good LR tomorrow.

From Jason D on Tue, Feb 03, 2015 at 22:13:21 from 68.80.27.222

Going to be a wet one. Unfortunately the creek flows the other way. Otgerwise, might me tempting around 12-13 to just float the last several miles :-)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
20.000.000.000.0020.00

NW Philly LR Loop - 20 miles very easy.

My stomach wouldn't let me get into typical long run pace. Time on my feet I guess.

Kinvara 5 Miles: 20.00
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.000.000.000.000.00

Day off.

I was going to take Sunday off, but I have some work to get through this morning and I woke up later than planned. 33 days on, so that's a decent stretch for getting back into things. Might get on the bike to help flush the legs later if I can get on before getting back from campus and making dinner.

Weight: 0.00
Comments
From jtshad on Thu, Feb 05, 2015 at 07:52:10 from 141.221.191.225

Well derserved.

From Matt Schreiber on Thu, Feb 05, 2015 at 21:08:11 from 66.17.102.175

Agreed. Nice miles yesterday, too.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
15.250.000.001.0016.25

AM: 11.25 miles easy w/ a throwdown mile at mile 10 @ 5:30/5:31 (so, mostly easy) + core and stretching.

A guy stopped me as I went into the gym to do my supplementary stuff and asked about my running. His mom died about a year ago and he got out of running. I encouraged him to run, and think I may have helped. Super nice guy. I did at least one good deed today.

PM: 5 miles easy. First road double in . . . a long time with the decreasing daylight last fall, down time after the marathon, etc.

Newton Gravity III Miles: 11.25Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 5.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From jtshad on Fri, Feb 06, 2015 at 15:04:19 from 69.20.183.178

Nice job being an advocate for the sport and an inspiration to help someone else out.

From steve ash on Fri, Feb 06, 2015 at 15:25:51 from 174.27.252.143

It's always good though not easy at times to reach out to folks who are struggling. Your a good man Jason.

From Jason D on Fri, Feb 06, 2015 at 15:45:17 from 68.80.27.222

I am now thinking I should have asked if he would like to run sometime. Hopefully I'll run into him again.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.000.000.000.005.00

PM: 5 miles nice and easy with Megan

Conner Mantz!

Kinvara 2 White/Blue Miles: 5.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From allie on Sat, Feb 07, 2015 at 12:37:36 from 73.207.133.226

yeah!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.258.000.000.0015.25

AM/Lunch: Flourtown Tempo Loop - 15.25 miles, averaged 7:06

4 up/3.25 down w/ 8-mile tempo. Ran by effort. No cheating/Easter Egg Splits. Results were good. Just under 6:23 average. It helps that I have two 20 milers and a 17er under my belt already. Still, pleased with this as a start. It was a solid progression and I felt I could have pushed on harder if asked to for 2 more miles.

6:31, 6:31, 6:29, 6:26, 6:20, 6:15, 6:17, 6:12

Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 15.25
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Matt Schreiber on Sun, Feb 08, 2015 at 18:58:07 from 66.17.102.175

Left a little in the tank - always a good feeling!

From Jake K on Mon, Feb 09, 2015 at 10:24:50 from 159.212.71.199

That's a really smooth progression without cheating.

From Jason D on Mon, Feb 09, 2015 at 10:54:45 from 68.80.27.222

Turning my pace off, even for workouts, is something I should have done a long time ago.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
15.500.000.000.0015.50

AM/Lunch: 7.5 miles easy. Stretching and core.

Extremely slippery from melting and then reglazing. Managed to stay on my feet.

PM: Treadmill - 8 miles in about 58 minutes (I punched the emergency stop at 7 miles and about 51 minutes). Felt really good. Did some strides.

I made homemade ice cream last night with the maker my mom got me for my birthday. It is really really good. Unfortunately, it's going to have to be about a once a month treat to help maintain my weight, but man is it a delicious treat!

Mizuno Musha Miles: 8.00Newton Gravity LE Miles: 7.50
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Drew on Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 03:56:14 from 24.92.19.68

I got an ice cream maker from my parents a couple years ago, and we've made a few batches.

It is delicious, but you really have to blank out how much sugar and cream you just poured into that thing.

From Jason D on Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 09:41:17 from 68.80.27.222

And 1/2 cup = 1 serving? Crazy talk!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.300.000.000.008.30

PM: Treadmill - 8.3 miles in an hour w/ strides. Didn't get out this morning because I was being lazy, but this felt pretty good. Sweatin everywhere. As I do.

Saucony A5 Miles: 8.30
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.500.005.000.0017.50

AM/Lunch: Flourtown Tempo Loop - 13.5 miles, averaged 7:11

5 x 1 mile with 2:00 recovery jogs (~9:00-9:45). 5:46, 5:41, 5:41, 5:44, 5:43 (5:43 avg)

4 up/3.5 down

I skipped my last repeat. I was working a bit toward the end but the effort was normal. I was far ahead of projected pace and decided I have lots of time to add repeats (or minutes). Figured I would take this for now and . . . run with it. Pleased to finally be out of 6-minute purgatory for the first LT session of the year.  I always seem to run this workout early in a buildup just below to just over 6-minute pace. This is pretty much what I was running 4 weeks out from Philadelphia last fall (off of more mileage and accumulated fatique, of course).

PM: Treadmill - 4 mile plod + weights and stretching

Newton MV3 Miles: 13.50Mizuno Musha Miles: 4.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From RileyCook on Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:27:46 from 38.98.41.97

Very nice workout Jason.

From Jake K on Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 12:09:12 from 159.212.71.173

Taking the hammer to Flourtown!

From Jake K on Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 12:10:12 from 159.212.71.173

Or, taking the Quern-stone to flourtown!

From jtshad on Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 12:41:08 from 141.221.191.225

Great workout, looking strong.

From steve ash on Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 13:23:46 from 174.27.252.143

Great workout Jason. Keep up the easy aerobic mileage on the other end and you should see some really good gains.

From Bret on Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 07:07:23 from 216.234.133.229

Strong effort Jason. You have a really solid level of fitness based on that workout.

From Jason D on Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 20:23:15 from 68.80.27.222

I appreciate the encouragement. I figured getting 5:50-5:55 would be good (not that that's where I wanted to be). I knew I was running about low-5:40 for the first one, got nervous when I saw the split, but kept the same effort, loosened up, and hit some faster splits.

I guess I am seeing the results of over 4000 consistent, injury-free miles since late-November 2013 at work and an honest several weeks of basebuilding following my marathon recovery weeks last fall.

From Rob Murphy on Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 21:09:06 from 24.10.247.181

That's pretty impressive Jason. A few more workouts like that and you might have to start considering yourself pretty good at this!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
13.600.000.000.0013.60

AM: 6.6 miles easy. Core work. Legs were tired, but not trashed or sore.

Did not want to get out of bed this morning.

PM: Treadmill - 7 miles in about 51-52 minutes. I punched the emergency stop again. Felt really good. The run, not punching the emergency stop.

Saucony A5 Miles: 7.00Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 6.60
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Matt Schreiber on Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 09:22:27 from 66.17.107.219

Accidental punching of the emergency stop?

From Jason D on Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 09:26:21 from 68.80.27.222

More of a slight bump with the fist. The machines have a emergency shutoff and a stop button (I've hit one of each in the last week).

From Matt Schreiber on Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 10:31:23 from 66.17.107.219

My gut hurts just thinking about it.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.000.004.000.009.00

Lunch: Treamill - 9 miles in 61:40 w/ 4-mile tempo @ ~10.2 MPH

Started at 10, then dropped every mile until the 4th, cut it back to 10 but then bumped it back so I ran the last kilometer between 10.1-10.4. Not what I was planning and my quality has jumped a bit too much this week. I feel great, but that's not the point.

I usually run a 5-mile treadmill tempo about 2-3 weeks out from a key half and run about 6:00 pace and run under that for the actual race. Feels good to be where I am already.

One more week of basebuilding even though this week looked a lot more like a regular training week.

Saucony A6 Miles: 9.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Jake K on Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:16:03 from 159.212.71.69

Is Broad Street your primary goal race for the spring? Or the half a week earlier?

From Jason D on Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 13:37:46 from 68.80.27.222

Probably the half. I am not sure why Broad Street is highlighted. Alternatively I could skip the half and put in some other shorter races. But if I am doing Sugarloaf I won't be racing Broad Street. I'll do it as a ~95% MP tempo or pace Megan for an easy run.

There's a bit of money for Sugarloaf (not that that is the point), so I am tempted, but I will have to drive up to Maine, etc. and not sure what my job situation will be.

I'll find out in the next 3-4 days if I am in for Broad Street.

From SlowJoe on Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 03:43:05 from 107.72.164.16

Wow, this has been a quality-laced week, nice work.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.750.000.000.006.75

PM1: 6.75 miles easy

Some snow. I was a cartoon character slipping on a banana peel in a few places. Lucky I was able to grab on to a fence (light snow over packed ice is super greasy). I managed not to fall.

Megan and I are going to try a Mexican place in Fort Washington. The new place in Chestnut Hill is extremely tasty, but it is expensive and the entrees are the size of appetizers (no rice or beans and no free chips and salsa). Drinks are expensive and scanty as well. This place looks pretty good.

PM2: 35 minutes on the bike, followed by stretching and a pretty decent core session

Newton Gravity III Miles: 6.75
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Rob Murphy on Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 13:08:27 from 24.10.247.181

That does look good. Have fun.

From Matt Schreiber on Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 13:31:23 from 66.17.123.25

Cantina Feliz... Looks amazing.

I'm all about free chips at Mexican restaurants.

Congrats on staying upright on the run.

From allie on Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 18:12:09 from 73.207.133.226

looks good. write a review tomorrow.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.250.000.000.008.25

PM: Treadmill - 8.25 miles with a set of 200s starting at 5k pace and ending at mile pace

Saucony A5 Miles: 8.25
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Matt Schreiber on Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 21:45:30 from 66.17.102.175

Gotta mix it up a little!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
11.500.002.000.0013.50

Lunch: Treadmill - 5 miles in a bit under 35 minutes w/ blown workout

Plan was mile repeats starting around 5:49 and cutting down. I overshot the first one but it felt fine, then toward the end the effort got high (10.4), jogged a quarter and did the next one at 10.3. Just could not concentrate. Started another one at 10 after deciding I was going to try to just get through the workout. By then my head wasn't in it (it really wasn't from the beginning).

Couple problems here

1. Too cocky from last week

2. My head was really not in it. Having a tough time getting out of bed with the weather and not knowing about full-time job prospects.

3. I am much faster on the roads from 200s to marathon effort

PM: Treadmill - 8.5 miles. Followed that up with two turkey burgers and some baked sweet potato fries. That was good.

 

Mizuno Musha Miles: 8.50Saucony A6 Miles: 5.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Bret on Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 11:20:23 from 99.1.220.106

Sometimes you just call it a day - and move on. Nothing wrong with that. Still got some decent running in anyway.

From Jason D on Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 12:28:50 from 68.80.27.222

Thanks, Bret. That's what I did. I'll try again on Wednesday or Thursday depending on how I feel.

From Jake K on Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 12:53:30 from 98.202.128.218

Re: #2 - your body interprets all stress the same way. So when your head isn't in it due to those kinds of worries, your body isn't going to perform at it's top level.

You are only 4-5 days out from crushing a set of mile reps, too!

From Jason D on Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 13:25:28 from 68.80.27.222

True. I got too greedy on Friday as well. Just need to relax and put my 2-3 easy days in. Getting outside would help, but it's been very cold, windy, and the footing isn't fantastic. Oh, and I've turned wimpy this winter with a treadmill just down the way.

I guess the idea is to let the running relieve stress and not add to it!

From SlowJoe on Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 14:34:46 from 107.77.80.84

Treadmill workouts are really tough, mentally. Hotter than optimal indoors, and horrific boredom play a part too. You have a better workout success ratio than most, no harm in flubbing it once in awhile.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.000.000.000.000.00

Unplanned day off.

Got home a bit after 9:00 and could have jumped on the treadmill, but didn't. Went to a lecture on prisoners and voting rights. Intriguing stuff, but I think the level of discussion was a bit too much for college students. Taught my two classes and Megan and I went to a play called Mothers and Sons. To think most of my days used to get busy like this. Free time is nice but an over abundance can drive you crazy (but I guess the alternative does too).

Got into Broad Street, which most people do. I want to run it hard but it's two weeks before a potential marathon, and one week after my key half. If I change my half to the end of march I have fewer weeks to get fit and my key 5k is a week later. Trying to be judicious with my race fee money this spring.

Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Jake K on Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 16:11:54 from 159.212.71.199

Broad Street seems like it would be an awesome opportunity to run fast. Competitive, and what a course!

I'm partial to that 10 mile distance. It's very humane :-) I wish I could do Cherry Blossom again this year.

From Jason D on Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 16:46:47 from 68.80.27.222

I am doing some restructuring of my racing schedule so that it isn't the weekend after a key half.

It's a light downhill, point-to-point. Megan and I can park at La Salle and it is just about 1/2 mile to the start.

10 miles is about as close to ideal a LT test as I can get (given that there are no 10.25-10.5 mile races).

From Jake K on Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 16:51:29 from 159.212.71.199

Oh I'm sure there are plenty of Garmin-believers who think it's a 10.25 mile race :-)

Based on how you knocked out those workouts last week, late March could actually be a good time-frame for a half marathon. You'd be building fitness all the way up to it. A shorter buildup, but less chance of cooking yourself in the process.

From Jason D on Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 17:55:35 from 68.80.27.222

The plan is the Philly Love Run 3/29 (it's basically the RnR course) or the Unite Half 4/12. Your comment makes me realize I ran 1:17 in late March after being injured in November last year. My fitness is better than at this point last year and I didn't have to lose 10-13 lbs to get to racing weight (currently about 2-4).

That would also keep me marathon specific in the later weeks if I do Sugarloaf.

From Jake K on Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 20:26:40 from 98.202.128.218

Those seem like good options.

Love run, Unity Run... doesn't Philly lead the country in murder?! (or at least near the top of the list)

From Jason D on Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 20:47:29 from 68.80.27.222

The other half is in New Jersey, but year they love the City of Brotherly love stuff.

I think the murder rate is much higher in other cities, but maybe we are up there for total number of murders (it's astonishing really), which is now under 300 for the last two years! Camden (just across the river) is particularly dangerous. La Salle is in a pretty sketchy neighborhood. I wouldn't want to walk through there at night. Certainly not the worst area in Philly.

From Jason D on Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 09:59:08 from 68.80.27.222

Megan just informed me that one of Nicki Minaj's roadies was stabbed two miles down the road just today or yesterday.

If you are ever in the area, we'll stick to Forbidden Drive and Chestnut Hill.

From Jake K on Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 10:02:35 from 159.212.71.77

I say we just meet up in Cape Elizabeth this summer :-)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
13.500.000.000.0013.50

AM: 8.5 miles easy + strides. Did core at the gym after.

PM: 5 miles + stretching

Newton Gravity III Miles: 8.50Kinvara 5 Miles: 5.00
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.000.005.000.009.00

AM: Treadmill - 9 miles in 60 minutes. Did 2 x 15 minutes at 6:00 to a touch faster with 4 minute recovery jog. Strides after the last interval and a 3 minute recovery jog.

I was supposed to wait and do a 4-5 mile tempo tomorrow but wasn't sure about the route getting there due to recent weather. Still should have waited one more day given Monday. Supposed to be quite cold in the morning and I hate running fast in tights. Today's workout wasn't what I wanted (4-5 tempo) but the effort was there. I wanted to quit pretty much every minute in the last repeat. I much prefer the roads where I don't have a clock staring me in the face. Still need to settle down a little and let my 10k the weekend after next judge my fitness (too long a time without a race). I'm ready to get after it and if not win, get a podium spot. 

PM: no shakeout. Megan and I ended up not coming home for dinner, getting a light dinner and very rare early week early day beers (5:30 is early drinking for a night owl).. We went to a fiction reading, which I enjoyed (they had free wine and small ginger cookies). When I was a serious student I used to do academic and cultural things all the time. Pretty insular these days but I had a solid week attending lectures and cultural events. I have plenty to eat, I'm warm, I can run a ton, and Megan is amazing. The rest will fall into place.

Saucony A5 Miles: 9.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From jtshad on Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 12:58:06 from 141.221.191.225

Good luck in the 10K! Go get it!

From Bret on Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 06:54:02 from 99.1.220.106

You sound well-primed! Good luck!

From Matt Schreiber on Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 07:48:32 from 66.17.107.219

That clock staring at me gets me every time. Good luck in the 10k! It's always fun to actually see where your fitness really is.

From Jason D on Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 10:16:36 from 68.80.27.222

Thanks, guys. It's not this weekend but next. Hoping this cold air clears out a little, but it's a 10AM race, which I think was made just for me :-)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.000.000.000.008.00

PM: 8 miles easy

16 degrees with some biting winds. Snow tomorrow, which will mess up the tempo loop when in rains on Sunday and then freezes on Monday. Ho hum.

Newton Gravity LE Miles: 8.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From SlowJoe on Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 19:01:30 from 104.51.208.13

If it makes you feel any better, the natural gas futures I bought last week are soaring right now - I'm hoping it stays cold up there another week. No, I guess that doesn't help. Sorry.

From Jason D on Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 20:00:22 from 166.137.244.59

We have electric, which is the stupidest heating source but it's bundled so it's not so bad. I miss the natural gas I had in the Midwest. It was plenty cheap.

For some reason the hallway outside our main door is always really warm. Trying to figure out how to pipe some of that in.

From SlowJoe on Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 08:08:59 from 107.77.66.49

Dang I figured everyone up there had gas - it's still super cheap at the moment...

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.500.000.000.0012.50

Lunch: 7.25 miles easy

PM: Treadmill - 5.25 miles + strides. Set of weights.

Mizuno Musha Miles: 5.25Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 7.25
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
3.006.000.000.009.00

PM: Treadmill - 9 miles in 62 minutes. Did a light workout of 6 miles @ 9.0-9.2 + a set of strides

The gym was up 14 degrees from what it's been so the pace to effort ratio was where it needed to be. Not much of a workout, but I'm slowing things down now that the buildup has started. No need for monster workouts just yet.


 

Saucony A5 Miles: 9.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From steve ash on Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 22:44:53 from 65.130.187.195

Good to know I'm not the only one that checks gym temps. Every time I would ask I would get some strange looks. If your building towards a 10k as per your schedule I think it actually would be ok.. Though not all that beneficial.. Just my thoughts. Take it for what it's worth.

From Jason D on Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 23:09:32 from 68.80.27.222

True. It's not 10k specific, but I like to hit some stuff above threshold but faster than easy pace. I generally do not run any miles on my easy runs faster than 7:30 (on roads). So I go from running 7:45-8:45 to running 6:00-5:40 for workouts. This was actually easy MP but given my wine intake and higher air temp the effort was harder than it should have been.

The 10k is to shake the dust off before I transition to mile repeats, ladders., and so on. The roads haven't been fantastic and I really struggle running hard on the treadmill and I'm limited to 60 minutes unless I get creative.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.650.000.000.0012.65

Lunch: Treadmill - 7.4 miles very easy. Core work.

PM: Treadmill - 5.25 miles. Stretching.

Saucony Fastwitch Miles: 5.25Mizuno Musha Miles: 7.40
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.000.000.000.0012.00

AM: Treadmill - 7 miles easy. Did some strides. Core and stretching after.

Got my first complimentary entry confirm this morning for the Unite Half Marathon (Rutgers U Half). I haven't earned it but I am happy to have saved $97. Financial matters have had me trying to really think about where I put my race fees, so this was a nice bonus.

PM: Treadmill - 5 miles

Saucony Fastwitch Miles: 5.00Mizuno Musha Miles: 7.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From jtshad on Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 09:30:45 from 141.221.191.225

Cool about the comp! You have too earned it!

From Jason D on Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 09:39:10 from 68.80.27.222

Let's just say their elite entry is very liberal :-) There are some competitive times in the last few years but that is usually for places 1-3, then places 4-8 drops off into my range. 2012 6 guys were between 1:07-1:12.

From Matt Schreiber on Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 20:32:22 from 66.17.102.175

That's awesome! Must be a pretty sweet half for $97!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.650.003.100.5011.25

AM: Flourtown Tempo Loop - 11.25 miles, averaged 7:26

Sharpening Workout 5 x 1000 + 4 x 200

Goal was to hit slightly faster end of mile repeats for the ks (3:30-3:32) with 90 second recovery jogs and then run 6 x 200 in 38-40 seconds with about 90 second recovery jogs. I ended up only doing 4 x 200 because I made the loop and wasn't planning on much more than 10-11 miles.

Warmed up 3.4, did a few weak strides and went straight into the workout. The first one was slow and the rest varied by terrain and wind, which I had a decent dose of (10-15 straight on headwind).

3:36, 3:32, 3:35, 3:34, 3:28 (averaged what I did for 5 x 1 mile 2 weeks ago) Recovery jogs were 8:15-9:15

Quarter mile jog

36, 38, 37, 37 (recovery jogs were 8:30-9:15)

Wasn't really feeling great, but that's usually how these sharpening workouts go. Not sure if a PR is in the cards but I'd like to come in under 36 minutes on Sunday. Last year I ran a sizable PR off a week like THIS and only 2 solid months of training after injury and recovery.

PM: Off

Newton MV3 Miles: 11.25
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From SlowJoe on Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 18:33:15 from 104.51.208.13

Nice K's. I'd only worry when you can only do the 200s at mile rep pace. Have a good race on Sunday!

From Jason D on Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 19:14:10 from 68.80.27.222

Why is it that I always think 39-40 seconds is slow? 200s should be faster than 5k pace but I never know. I love 200s on the track. I did them pretty much right up to the marathon.

Good luck to you. Keep it under control and then start picking people off! I was almost tempted to sign up for a 50k in May. Almost. Except running shirtless, sweating, drinking out of springs, and training on trails under summer sun sounds really good right now.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.500.000.000.007.50

AM: 7.5 miles easy. Stretching and core work.

PM: No run. Didn't fit it in before getting dinner ready. Looks like another week under 70. I think I am planning a bit lower mileage and getting in some serious faster stuff over the next 6 weeks to see what I can do in the 5k and half. Daylight savings is about 10 days away. An extra hour+ will make getting outside before dinner a sure thing.

The company that publishes Men's Health, Running Times, and Runners World is looking for different kinds of editors. Tempted to put in my application, but I don't quite have the skills for inDesign. That and I think I owe Runner's World some money for their automatic renewal that I never requested.

Kinvara 2 White/Blue Miles: 7.50
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
11.500.000.000.0011.50

AM/Lunch: 7.25 miles easy. Did a few strides.

PM: 4.25 miles. Stretching.

Newton Gravity III Miles: 4.25Kinvara 5 Miles: 7.25
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.100.000.000.005.10

PM: 5.1 miles. Did some strides. A few on the roads, a couple 200s on the track (mostly clear), and then one more on the road. Stretching after a late PB&J.

Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 5.10
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From allie on Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 14:42:42 from 73.207.133.226

PB&J :)

From Jason D on Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 16:11:25 from 68.80.27.222

Had to fit in lunch even if it was at 4:15 PM! A very late start to the day . . .

Race: NE Road Runners Winter 10k (6.21 Miles) 00:36:37, Place overall: 2, Place in age division: 1
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
9.000.006.250.0015.25

AM: Northeast Roader Runners Winter 10k. Not a great time for me, but I raced a bit today which was the point. I thought I could run between 35:30-36:00 but not today.

The course is an out and back along the Schuykill River Trail on Boat House Row.

Warmed up 4 miles, changed into flats and did some strides. Felt really good. First mile we took off and I was in 4th or 5th, but moved into second. Effort felt fine, form felt smooth. Hit mile 1 in 5:35, which was too fast but I honestly felt fine. Kept 1st place within striking distance and listened for folks behind me. Tried to keep relaxed and focus on my breathing. Felt like a hard tempo (comfortable but definitely not easy). I maintained my distance on first, but this was probably a mistake because he was slowing and I was slowing and not realizing it because I didn't have my pace on.

Around mile 3 I heard footsteps and the guy behind me started to move up. I figured the leader wasn't going to last so I waited to see what the guy behind me would do. We went into the turn around (~18:00, WTF!?!) and he went by me and took the lead. I then passed the second place guy and traded places with the leader. I could see his shoe was untied, which he stopped to tie around mile 4 or so. I went into the lead but felt dirty about it so I slowed up a bit. We had a decent amount of headwind on the way back, and after catching back up to me he sat right on my shoulder for a while. I threw in some surges mostly to see where my own legs were. He took the lead back at some point.

With a mile to go I took the lead back and tried to break him at 3/4 and 1/2 to go (I even ran through some runners coming the other way to use them as human shields. Not sure if this is kosher, but I think it's funny and they were in the way of my tangents). I could see the final straightway and tried to pour it on. Well, he waited and kicked and I lost confidence and lost the race by a handful of seconds.

I did okay racing today, but I still race like an amateur. Part of the problem is a lack of mental toughness and part of the problem is a lack of opportunity. I get a real racing opporunity maybe once or twice a year.

Much work to be done in the next 6 weeks, but I'll get there.

I didn't take splits because I decided to race and get an update or two from the scant number of clocks they had on the course (I had quarter mile markers though, which was nice). But these are from Strava. A really "good" regression race: 5:35, 5:46, 5:52, 5:53, 6:01, 6:00. With a more sensible start I probably could have hung out in the mid to upper 5:40s.

1 mile cool down before awards, which were a waste of time and I should have finished a proper cool down. It was snowing and I wanted to make sure Megan and I got home.

PM: Treadmill - 4 miles. Core work after.

 

Kinvara 5 Miles: 5.00Saucony A6 Miles: 6.25Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 4.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From steve ash on Sun, Mar 01, 2015 at 12:57:50 from 174.27.245.106

Good race Jason. I like how you utilized the tangents to your advantage with other other runners. Enjoyed the report also.

From Rob Murphy on Sun, Mar 01, 2015 at 13:19:02 from 24.10.247.181

You have to re-learn how to race each year. Only way to become a tough racer is to race a lot!

From SlowJoe on Sun, Mar 01, 2015 at 14:56:02 from 104.51.208.13

The shoe-tying, see that's when you pour it on to demoralize him! But I like the pick and roll through the crowds, definitely acceptable. Nice work Jason.

From steve ash on Sun, Mar 01, 2015 at 15:05:52 from 174.27.245.106

I like the "Pick and roll analogy" Slow Joe. The Utah Jazz back in the days of Stockton and Malone were masters of this play:)

From SlowJoe on Sun, Mar 01, 2015 at 18:35:44 from 104.51.208.13

As a lifetime Rockets fan I still cringe thinking about Stockton and Malone doing their thing back in the 90s. They had it down to a science. It usually ended with a Malone flop + free throws but it was still impressive!

From Drew on Mon, Mar 02, 2015 at 03:38:08 from 24.92.19.68

Jason, for your first race this year, this sounds like a very good result, and juggling places with the leader sounds like you are a much better racer than you give yourself credit for.

I often find my first race back is a little off the mark- although for some reason, I have trouble putting it into perspective when it's my own racing!

Nice running and great report, it was a lot of fun to read.

From Bret on Mon, Mar 02, 2015 at 07:52:08 from 216.234.133.229

Good report Jason. Whenever I am in Philly, I go for a run along the Schuykill River Trail on Boat House Row. So I felt as though I knew exactly where you were. Memory tells me the outbound leg would have been a slight downslope and so the inbound would be slightly uphill - which could also explain the slower splits at the end, plus the wind.

In any event, to me, if you are in a battle back and forth for the win, that's what makes racing fun as opposed to a time trial. So you are right to be pleased with that aspect of the event. You will learn/grow from the experience and others as you race more. Nice Job.

From Tom Slick on Mon, Mar 02, 2015 at 08:55:45 from 168.179.158.193

Jason D, Hey that was my 2007 trip to the Boston Marathon, and that is my finish line photo. I do believe that this year (2007) was my best Boston ever with a 3:29:++. What was your first at The Boston? This year will be my 12th trip to Bean Town!!!!!

From Jake K on Mon, Mar 02, 2015 at 10:04:41 from 159.212.71.77

Good race Jason. I like all of your efforts to break him - multiple surges, pick and roll. Here's what you need to do next time - "dream shake". You take the lead, pretend to make a hard turn to the left (that isn't part of the course), then spin 180 in the other direction and cruise in for victory.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.900.000.000.0012.90

AM/Lunch: 7.5 miles easy. Icy in places, lots of water in others. Jumped four deer near the Poseidon Statue.

PM: 5.4 miles easy. Stretching and weights. Icy in spots and wet in others. Almost fell 4-5 times today and avoided skating into two intersections.

A little sore from yesterday in the quads and IT area, the fact and placement of which is atypical (but symmetrical).

Newton Gravity LE Miles: 7.50Kinvara 5 Miles: 5.40
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
13.750.000.000.0013.75

AM/Lunch: 7.25 miles easy.

Still sore. I've never been sore after a 10k. Probably means I need more doubles and mileage.

PM: Treadmill - 6.5 miles easy. Did some strides. They felt good. Stretching after.

Another round of snow/sleet/crap. 40+ degrees in the 10-day forcast. Can't wait.

Kinvara 2 White/Blue Miles: 7.25Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 6.50
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
13.500.000.000.0013.50

AM: Treadmill - 7 miles very easy. Light core session after.

PM: Treadmill - 6.5 miles very easy + strides

After feeling very sluggish this morning I wore my HR monitor this evening. It told me what I needed to know. Have to slow down a bit. If I need to run 8:30 pace that's what Im going to do. Doesn't usually take this long to recover though.

Late: rolled out my legs. A few spots hurt, my hamstring tickled. I got after it a bit. Feel great. We shall we see what morning brings.

 

Mizuno Musha Miles: 6.50Kinvara 5 Miles: 7.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Matt Schreiber on Wed, Mar 04, 2015 at 21:04:32 from 66.17.102.175

8:30 sounds just right. Way to rack up the miles!

From Jason D on Wed, Mar 04, 2015 at 21:09:43 from 68.80.27.222

Thought of you today, Matt, and our many easy pace exchanges. Sometimes you got to run slow! I've been running 7:20-7:40 on the treadmill but today even 8:00 pace felt hard. So I rolled with it and ran mostly @ 7 MPH.

Tonight my average heart rate for 6.5 @ 8:22 with strides was 143-145, which was higher than I would have expected but it's in the right zone. Had I tried to run 7:30 it might have been marathon effort (~160-165).

From Matt Schreiber on Wed, Mar 04, 2015 at 21:29:36 from 66.17.102.175

Is so important to run slow yet we all hey carried away. :) 7 mph had been my go to speed for recovery on the treadmill lately. It's easy to remember.

The strides must have pulled the avg up. Still sums like a good HR to me!

From Drew on Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 10:31:09 from 24.73.66.122

My average pace for morning runs is pretty close to 8:30. Good times!

From Jason D on Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 12:00:14 from 68.80.27.222

I meant to ask you what you easy pace is but I never know if people really like to be asked that question. I end up running about 8:00-8:20, though I will often start at 8:45-9:20 for the first mile. In the last few months, I have turned pace off.

Typically in marathon buildups I will run 4-5 doubles a week and 75-95 miles at about that easy pace, but for some reason I am really feeling dead. And it is too early for that. May have to slow down even more. It's funny when I am able to slow down an run 8:30-9:00 I really enjoy it. My favorite runs are with my wife, Megan, and we run 9:00-10:00. I usually yammer about the houses in the neighborhood and say "I really should run this pace all the time."

From Bret on Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 12:04:43 from 216.234.133.229

I literally just finished a treadmill run at 7mph as recovery effort...I see a theme here...

From Matt Schreiber on Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 15:18:03 from 66.17.107.219

I'm always reminded of Camille Herron's blog post about recovery runs. Seems like 9-9:30 would be ideal? I run right close to 8:30 lately (7mph) but struggle getting that slow while outside. Ironically, some days (day after a tempo) it feels like too hard of an effort.

From Drew on Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 17:26:16 from 24.92.19.68

Arg, my opus on easy running somehow got clipped. I'll have to repost later with more time.

From Jason D on Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 18:24:00 from 68.80.27.222

Drew: it's in my mail as a comment. I'll copy and paste it in.

From SlowJoe on Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 18:26:16 from 104.51.208.13

For me recovery pace is more of a feeling rather than a target speed (although I guess you have to pick SOMETHING on the TM, in which case it's 7.0 for me). The "feeling" for me is that I just pick up and set down my legs without feeling like I'm using any muscles. Of course I am actually using muscles, but you know what I mean.. I like to post my paces as it tells me how beat up I am or am not, but I don't look until after the run is over (makes for a fun guessing game as well). Those are my unsolicited words on recovery, anyway...

From Jason D on Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 18:32:23 from 68.80.27.222

Good words they are, Joe. That's the first time I've seen the feeling described that way but it's 100% right on.

Drew's lost comment:

Jason - I'm pretty insensitive, and like to talk about running. :)

Disclaimer: everyone's different, etc...for me, I feel there's a sequence.

Race breakthroughs

From Jason D on Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 18:35:37 from 68.80.27.222

Hemmm....it thinks I'm trying to use HTML I'm afraid. I took out what I think the issue is. Edits in brackets.

Jason - I'm pretty insensitive, and like to talk about running. :)

Disclaimer: everyone's different, etc...for me, I feel there's a sequence.

Race breakthroughs [come from] hard workouts [which are built on] mileage foundation. More like the recycling symbol than linear, though.

To build and maintain foundation, I don't think it matters much if you run 7 minute pace or 9 minute pace. It probably has more of a conditioning effect when you are a new runner, but after years of training your easy and hard paces are pretty spaced apart.

Generalizing, but most workouts leading to a good race will be 90-110% of race pace. That's hard running, so on one hand, recovery needs to be easy, and on the other, running at say, 80% of race pace is not all that meaningful from a racing perspective, but it beats you up more than slower running.

I do all my easy runs by feel, and they vary considerably, but on average in the morning I'm swinging between 8 and 9 minute miles. Later in the day, often running with a buddy, the pace is between 7 & 8. When we run faster than 7:30, I usually regret it.

From Drew on Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 19:32:14 from 24.92.19.68

Ah, good catch Jason! I was trying to get fancy with symbols and inadvertently put in the HTML comment sequence. :) So I commented my comments out.

From Jake K on Sun, Mar 08, 2015 at 07:51:17 from 98.202.128.218

You guys already know my thoughts on easy paced running so I don't have a ton to add, other than I really liked reading this discussion!

From steve ash on Sun, Mar 08, 2015 at 08:12:33 from 65.130.146.32

Me too. I still have a tendency to break the speed limit on my recovery days:)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.500.004.000.0012.50

Lunch: Treadmill - 7.5 miles w/ 4-mile LT tempo @ 6:05

6 inches of snow this morning and still falling. Kind of a crappy workout but I pushed through it. Waiting to feel good again. Not sure if I will run later today or just rest. Running is not going super well but I'm plugging along.

PM: Treadill - 5 miles

 

Saucony A5 Miles: 7.50Kinvara 5 Miles: 5.00
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.000.000.000.007.00

Lunch: 7 miles. Pretty much every variety of snow/slush/water/ice you can think of. My least favorite is kitty litter (the stage when snow is just before slush but it is loose and not hard packed). 40-55 degrees throughout the 10-day forecast after that!

PM: Off. Mileage is fine this week though. Assuming I am out of bed before 11:30 tomorrow, I'l get in two runs. Hoping the sun works it's magic on the roads for Sunday, which will be my first of a couple 5k-paced workouts to try to see if I can break the 17 minute mark. Probably not enough time and I will need at least two 5ks to do it, but I'll see what I can do after the peak of spring racing season if I can't get where I need to be before then.

Saucony Kinvara 4 Miles: 7.00
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.750.000.000.006.75

PM: 6.75 miles. The first 3.75 with Megan. Did a few strides after.

Decent week for mileage but no runs over 7.5 miles is not great. Roads will be clearing up this week for some workouts and time on my feet.

Kinvara 5 Miles: 6.75
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Matt Schreiber on Sun, Mar 08, 2015 at 07:46:36 from 66.17.102.175

Hopefully the roads clear up soon with all that warm weather! I've already designated one pair of shoes as my spring running shoes. They're absolutely ruined from the dirty water/snow.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.250.000.002.009.25

PM: Flourtown Tempo Loop + Springsdie Track - 9.25 miles. Failed workout.

I attempted the Drew Ladder workout (okay so he probably didn't invent it but he's the only person I've seen do it). I warmed up 4 miles with strides. I got through about 3/4 of a mile and pulled it. A bit of slush and some nasty wind on the backside and I just couldn't hold my concentration.

I cursed the air, cursed myself, my cat, and pretty much everybody's mother. Vowed never to run again, vowed to skip the rest of the spring season. Got back and I checked my watch. 5:12 pace. I'm an idiot. 5:25-5:27 for the mile and the rest around that would have made me happy. I'm both gunshy and anxious at this point and it's not making things go well. Obviously the pacing was the majority of the problem here. Might need to put the pace back on for workouts if I can't find it.

Drove over to Springside Academy and did some hard 400s in lane 2 1/2 (some snow on the inside)

5 x 400 @ mile pace with 60-70 seconds rest

73.7, 75, 76, 76, 74.6

I was okay with those. I mean it was lane 2 1/2 and all.

 

Saucony A5 Miles: 1.25Newton MV3 Miles: 8.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Matt Schreiber on Sun, Mar 08, 2015 at 21:55:18 from 66.17.102.175

Failed workout... We've all been there. Nice job with the 400's. It's not quite the workout you wanted, but you got some quick stuff in. I won't think any less of you if you turn your pace back on for a hit. :) I'd blame the pacing on the mix of outside and treadmill miles.

From Jake K on Mon, Mar 09, 2015 at 08:59:43 from 159.212.71.200

When I read this, I'm not concerned by the bombed workout (insignificant in the grand scheme of training), but I see a couple phrases that raise yellow (not red) flags - lack of concentration, gunshy + anxious... it sort of reminds me of how I felt when I fell apart last May. I became an up and down basketcase for a month. I don't want to see you go down that path. Take the pressure off yourself. It's hard training through the winter, in places where winter hits hard! Save something for when the weather gets good again!

From Jason D on Mon, Mar 09, 2015 at 09:28:31 from 68.80.27.222

Thanks, Jake. I appreciate that. The pace was too hard (even though based on form I thought it was right), but I could have pushed another minute and change but I thought for a second and it was too late.

I had three really strong workouts and I think that went to my head. A number of factors at work here probably, but I'll take your advice and try to sort things out.

From Jake K on Mon, Mar 09, 2015 at 09:32:27 from 159.212.71.200

Think about it enough to sort it out, but not enough to drive yourself crazy.

And don't let the lows get too low, or the highs too high (unless you are in the last third of a race and feeling great, then just ride the high).

From Matt Schreiber on Mon, Mar 09, 2015 at 09:45:11 from 66.17.107.219

Did you just come up with that on the fly? Pretty good.

From Drew on Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 10:12:25 from 24.92.19.68

Hey Jason - sorry for the late reply, and sorry my ladder brought woe unto you. Which one was it by the way? (We do a few variations)

And joking aside, our club's coach (Joe Burgasser) is the proprietor of those workouts, although he's quick to point out that he just incorporated them from others over the years. Generic workouts, as one of my friends calls them when he's feeling uncharitable.

You already got all the good advice. The only thing I'd add is to *really* not worry about blowing up. Our club has about 15-20 workouts we rotate, and I've blown each one of them at some point. It's just inherent in the nature of intervals - if you overcommit early in the workout, you're doomed.

But going through that experience is actually incredibly valuable - it gives you a lot of insight into pace, which translates in races.

Also, one thing that is very likely is that the next time you attempt a similar workout, you'll pace it better.

Last comment, I really love Jake's comment about not too high or too low. I don't always live it, but I believe it.

From Jason D on Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 10:58:31 from 166.137.244.46

Thanks, Drew. Sorry to attach your name to failure :-). For a long time I rarely missed in a workout but I've had a lot of bad ones this year (some breakthroughs as well I might add).

It's the mile/1200/800/800/(4)400 workout. I should probably do it on the track. Mile-2 mile repeats on my loop and tempos are great, but shorter distances don't always work (there's Garmin accuracy with really short stuff too).

Part of the problem is limited workouts before my half in a month and the pressure to smoke all of them. I don't usually get super impatient but I'm definitely not patient. Basically my drive is counterproductive right now.

Some sort of workout tomorrow. I may give Megan some workouts and have her randonly select one and text it to me so I don't know what it is until I head out.

From Jake K on Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 11:10:11 from 159.212.71.17

So many variations of the "mile down". I like 1600-1200-800-400-4x200. If I ever run a short race again, I'll use it :-)

On the roads, considering Garmin issues w/ short distances, a good alternative is doing something like 5-4-3-2-1xX min efforts.

Drew that's a good thought about interval workouts that don't go well. It happens, you learn from it... you just don't want to get into a streak of doing it 5 sessions in a row. Provided you can deal with it mentally and allow yourself to physically recover, blowing up a little bit in a workout actually provides a huge adaptation stimulus.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
13.250.000.000.0013.25

Noon: 8.25 miles easy. Core.

PM: 5 miles. Stretching.

Glorious weather today. Saw 4-5 runners today all in tights, jackets, hat, and gloves. It was 50+ degrees. I wore shorts and a light long sleeve this morning and a t-shirt this afternoon. V

Newton Gravity III Miles: 8.25Kinvara 5 Miles: 5.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Matt Schreiber on Mon, Mar 09, 2015 at 21:14:26 from 66.17.102.175

I love it. That's an all too familiar scene.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.500.000.000.0012.50

AM: 5.5 miles.

Air quality warning. First time I've seen that (other than summer heat index /air quality warnings).

PM: 7 miles. Rainy and cold. Better than snow.

Kinvara 5 Miles: 7.00Kinvara 2 White/Blue Miles: 5.50
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
11.250.005.000.0016.25

AM: Flourtown Tempo Loop - 12 miles, averaged 7:13 w/ 5-mile tempo

I kept changing the workout so that I couldn't get nerved up about it. I decided on a 4-5 mile tempo as I was headed down the hill. The workout went well, even if I wanted it to be a bit closer to half PR pace of ~5:55 or faster. Can't complain though (I'm not quite there). The real idea was to build confidence and regain focus. Think I achieved that. Started out slow, but I knew it was slow.

Feeling better today thanks to a number of excellent FRB coaches.

4 up/3 down

Splits were: 6:09, 6:03, 6:03, 6:01 5:53 (~6:02 average)

PM: 4.25 miles easy with Megan. I was very loopy around mile 2 until the conclusion of our run. Lack of calories or dehydrated or both. Trying to tighten up on food intake.

Newton MV3 Miles: 12.00Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 4.25
Weight: 174.00
Comments
From RileyCook on Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 09:37:31 from 73.52.134.194

Awesome! I saw your strava post before this and deducted it was a 5-mile tempo around 6:00-flat. But you can't always tell for sure the way Strava records it. Nice run.

From Jason D on Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 10:48:49 from 166.216.165.63

Strata automatically does mile splits, even if you lap the watch or if you have the auto turned off like I do. I started at 4 miles just in case I didn't want to take splits and just check them later. Strava also rounds pretty seriously (13.1 is 13.0 and so on).

I don't tend to run 4-5 mile tempos on the road because they are hard. Last fall (late in a buildup) I ran 5 @ 5:48. That was after 3-4 months of 340-370 miles. But I guess I don't have to tell you how fitness comes and goes. Onward and upward!

From SlowJoe on Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 19:33:02 from 104.51.208.13

That's how you do it - nice run Jason. The times will come down, as I'm sure you know, as long as the effort is good.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.500.000.000.0012.50

AM: 7 miles easy

PM: 5.5 miles easy

Made white chicken chili for dinner. One of my new(er) favorites.

Late: stretching and rolling

Kinvara 5 Miles: 5.50Kinvara 2 White/Blue Miles: 7.00
Weight: 174.00
Comments
From Matt Schreiber on Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 21:22:48 from 66.17.102.175

I was sitting in the hospital yesterday and heard one old lady yell to another old lady sitting next to her if she'd ever tried white chicken chili. It sparked my interest, and now I'm going to have to try it! Thanks!

From Jason D on Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 11:12:52 from 68.80.27.222

It looks like my message got lost from last night. Try this one, but you only need to cook it on low for about 5-5.5 hours. I add about 3 mandolin sliced jalapenos to bring the heat up.

http://www.thekitchn.com/recipe-slow-cooker-white-chicken-chili-recipes-from-the-kitchn-215412

I add extra beans and mash about a can to a can and a half and stir it in late in the cooking process to thicken it up so.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.0010.000.000.0020.00

AM: Signed up for Beach to Beacon in 2:47 (maybe a PR). 6:40AM is too early for this Rock Star.

Flourtown Tempo Loop (mostly) - 20 miles, averaged 7:31

I was going to do abut 15-17 miles w/ 8-tempo around 6:25-6:30 pace but decided maybe 17-18 miles with a long warm up and a longer tempo if I felt good. I warmed up 6 really easy and did 10 miles moderate down to marathon pace. I felt really comfortable and now that I checked have checked my splits I can see why :-) Well, after not giving myself at least two recovery days and it's been 5-6 weeks without a 20 miler, any substantial longer runs, and mostly 60 minute runs, this could have been a lot worse. I'm happy pretty much any day I can knock out 20 miles and feel relatively good at the end.

Averaged 8:36 for the 6 miles and averaged 6:42 for the 10 miles, but I started at 7:00 and ended at 6:28 for the last two. A nice long and controlled progression and just stayed relaxed and gave it a slightly uptempo effort. It pains me to count 6:50-7:00 as marathon pace but this was maybe a click or two of full marathon effort and I am trying to be more in tune with pacing and effort, mostly not taking splits, and not checking pace for easy runs.

 

Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 20.00
Weight: 175.50
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.250.000.000.004.25

PM: Treadmill - 4.25 miles. HR 141. Core and stretching after.

A good week. Mileage is up, workouts were decent. Feeling pretty good. More of the same the next few weeks and try to sharpen up for the Unite half in 4 weeks and try to PR in the 5k the weekend before. Then a few more weeks and it's Broad Street. Hard to beleieve that will more or less be the end of my usual spring training season. Feel like I just started this week.

Mizuno Musha Miles: 4.25
Weight: 173.80
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.500.000.000.0012.50

Lunch(ish): 7.25 miles on the trails.

I slipped and fell and scraped my knee. It hurt a lot, but I think it's fine. Ran on my baby, Forbidden Drive, for just a short stretch. It's been a while.

PM: 5.25 miles. Did some strides. They felt good.

Inov-8 Roclite 295 Miles: 7.25Kinvara 2 White/Blue Miles: 5.25
Weight: 173.80
Comments
From Matt Schreiber on Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 21:11:51 from 66.17.102.175

Bummer on the fall! The knee ones are always bad. Remember this fall on Thursday when your knee feels like it might be bruised for no apparent reason. Nice miles nonetheless.

From Jason D on Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 21:32:40 from 68.80.27.222

I'm getting too old for this crap! One of the reasons I don't like to run the trails, as much as I like to play in the woods and the mud. Falls on concrete hurt, but there's not the chance of twisting, tweaking, etc.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
9.500.006.000.0015.50

AM/Lunch: 15.5 miles, averaged 7:20 w/ 6 x 1 mile (~1:45 recovery jog)

Jogged to the tempo loop. Construction everywhere. All I can say is I hope they are making it pretty because that loop is magical and I have work to do in the next 3 weeks.

Jogged some more trying to figure out what to do. Try to find another loop I marked out. Couldn't find it. Saw a track at a school but it was funny looking and the fence looked high and not inviting. I saw a U-shaped residential area road and just ran it blind. The makeshift loop worked nicely even though it wasn't quite a mile (~.8). Ended up with a very sufficient warm up of 5.4 miles.

5:51, 5:51, 5:48, 5:53, 5:53, 5:55 (~5:52 average), split slightly long on a few but close enough.

3.1 cool down. Took down a low hanging fruit Strava course record. It's not an easy hill.

PM:Likely off. Not sure I will fit anything more in today, which is fine.

Saucony A6 Miles: 15.50
Weight: 174.80
Comments
From SlowJoe on Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 15:49:42 from 12.182.148.249

Those are really solid, nice work Jason.

From allie on Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 16:23:50 from 73.207.133.226

agreed. great workout.

From Jason D on Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 19:55:30 from 68.80.27.222

Feel like I'm back on track. Just hope this construction business doesn't last too long. I can wait until next week, but no longer!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.000.000.000.008.00

AM: Off. Too much work to be done

PM: 8 miles on the trails.

Inov-8 Roclite 295 Miles: 8.00
Weight: 174.80
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
13.000.000.000.0013.00

Lunch/PM: 13 miles. Did some strides.

Quite sluggish. Thinking tomorrow is a complete rest day rather than a workout day. Not sure when my last rest day was. I'll move the workout to Friday. Except I think we are getting rain and snow . . .

Kinvara 5 Miles: 13.00
Weight: 174.80
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.000.000.000.000.00

lDay off.

Typically a sluggish run wouldn't make me take a day off (they are the case in marathon training), but I have woke up the last two days feeling almost as tired as when I went to bed and my body is telling me something I think. Tomorrow's workout should be interesting with the snow (gross).

29 days on. I used to be able to go 40-80 days. I'm getting older I guess (running a bit faster though).

I haven't got the workouts in I wanted to before the 5k in two weeks, but I will be rested for the race which I never do in a 5k. I have two 5k paced workouts scheduled, but doing that crap on the treadmill is not my thing. Might have to just suck it up and let the snot fly indoors.

Late: stretching and rolling, core, push-ups

Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.250.000.003.7514.00

AM: Springside Track - 10 miles, averaged 7:33

Mile Breakdown Workout in the snow

I bombed this one on the tempo loop a few weeks ago, and thought I might do it today (among some other options). It was snowing, but I figured I'd try it. I jogged to the track and it was already covered but I could see the lanes through the snow (that ended pretty quickly). I cleared off my usually starting point on the finish line and continued warming up and snow continued to fall. I got busy without much of a proper warm up (3.1 miles, a few pickups but no strides). I just ran and didn't take an 200 or 400 meter splits, just the concluding split. You can see I wasn't really consistent throughout.

1600 in 5:31/400 jog

1200 in 4:14/400 jog (5:36 pace, which was off target)

2 x 800 in 2:45 and 2:50/200 jog (off target second interval)

4 x 400 in 79, 81, 80, 80/200 jog (more or less on target)

Not bad for the first track workout of the year. I am sure I was mentally slowing down on the snow and not getting complete traction but I doubt I would have been too much faster. I was end of race effort after the last 400, so I felt good about my effort. Pleased to get this one in. I wasn't sure I was going to.

2 mile slush plod cool down

PM: Treadmill - 4 miles. More snow than expected. Light core session and pushups.

Saucony A5 Miles: 10.00Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 4.00
Weight: 174.80
Comments
From allie on Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 10:21:50 from 73.207.133.226

snow-covered track?! really good workout, esp in less than ideal conditions.

TM got the bird.

From Jason D on Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 10:37:26 from 68.80.27.222

Winter was gone . . . until it wasn't! Thankfully it won't be much and it won't last long.

From Jake K on Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 10:45:12 from 159.212.71.77

Nice. Looks like you've gotten in some really solid workouts over the past 10 days or so.

From SlowJoe on Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 19:04:31 from 104.51.208.13

Definitely a good start!

From Drew on Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 04:44:23 from 24.92.19.68

Nice workout Jason. That's a great job, plus running solo and in the snow. That has to give you confidence you can run through a lot.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
11.500.000.000.0011.50

PM: Treadmill - 6.5 miles

Evening: 5 miles

Kinvara 2 White/Blue Miles: 5.00Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 6.50
Weight: 174.80
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
9.000.000.000.009.00

PM: 9 miles. Did a few strides.

Newton Gravity III Miles: 9.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Matt Schreiber on Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 21:25:15 from 66.17.102.175

Nice track workout last week Jason.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.500.004.000.5010.00

AM: Springside Track -10 miles, averaged 7:38 w/ 4-mile tempo + 4 x 200

flat, crappy workout. Ran in lane 3 as some young guys were doing 200s. I warmed up about 3.8 and did some light stretching and strides. About 30 degrees out. Splits were dog crap: 6:05, 6:18?!, 6:13, 6:13. Quarter mile jog then 4 x 200 with 200 jogs: 34.2, 35.4, 35.5, 35.5. My pacing on the roads is better I think, but the tempo loop looks like it might be a while. Not sure what's wrong. Probably needed an extra recovery day. Too much to drink this weekend. I weigh too much. What else is new. Onward and upward I guess.

Saucony A5 Miles: 10.00
Weight: 175.20
Comments
From Bret on Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 12:02:51 from 216.234.133.229

Did you account for the extra distance you were running if the reps were being done from lane 3?

From Jason D on Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 12:23:35 from 68.80.27.222

The splits above are manual laps, but no, I didn't (even though I know it starts to run a bit longer as you move out). For 4.07 I ran 24:50, or 6:06 pace, which isn't terrible but slower than a 5 mile tempo 12 days on the roads. Just didn't have any turn over.

Legs felt like concrete yesterday even walking. My mileage has jumped up a bit, but I don't think I am doing anything out of the ordinary. I feel like last fall my recovery was almost zero.

From Bret on Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 12:32:09 from 216.234.133.229

Well from lane 3 it is about 15 meters per lap longer than lane 1 - so, that's roughly 60 meters per mile. It is a few seconds to consider. So that 6:05 was likely sub 6. But that doesn't help how you were feeling. May help with the mental aspect though.

Try tracking your nutrition. Maybe there is something going on with it. Use a calorie counter app, input what your are consuming. If you keep an accurate record you can get a breakdown of proteins, carbs and fats.

From Jason D on Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 12:58:50 from 68.80.27.222

Thanks. The 6:06 is the adjusted pace. I need to have my iron checked. My diet is pretty much the same as it has been. But I need to dial it in more. I've been lax about my iron supplements for a while now. Need to make sure I stay on them. Something just feels off. I appreciate the advice.

From Jake K on Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 13:13:38 from 159.212.71.69

I'm re-iterating my high/low comment. You nailed 4 very good workouts in a row before this one.

From Jason D on Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 18:15:12 from 68.80.27.222

Ugh. I know. I need to wait until the evening to do my posts so I can sit on it for a while.

4 x 1 mile w/ 90 seconds rest on Friday. Nothing like getting after the hardest workout I do! A more modest 5 x 1000 with short rest might be more sensible but not really a good predictor.

From Drew on Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 10:17:38 from 24.92.19.68

Jason, how do you manage the 90 sec rest? Is that standing, or do try to jog a 200 at that pace?

I also do 4x1 mile, but we usually do it with a quarter jog, which often turns out to be ~2:30 of recovery. Probably as a result, 4x1 mile splits for me tend to be 2-4 seconds faster than I can handle in a 5k. I'm interested in cutting my rest next time to see if it is closer.

So far my best predictor workout for the 5k is 2 x 1.5 miles with ~5 minute standing/jog recovery. For probably psychological reasons, going beyond the 1 mile mark at that pace is really helpful to me.

From Jason D on Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 10:32:04 from 166.137.240.63

It's standing rest. But don't stand still :) I keep walking in circles with my hands over my head. If you can jog it you probably aren't running the right effort. Well, maybe not but the jogs would need to be greater than 10:30 pace I would think.

I've never run a 5k after doing it for some reason. Usually it's done a workout or two before a big half marathon workout for turnover and a sense of the danger zone. I ran 5:30 average for it about a year ago. If I can run ~5:32-5:35 I'll be happy.

From Jason D on Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 10:39:38 from 166.137.240.63

2 x 1.5 sounds pretty painful. But at least you can concentrate on two intervals.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.500.000.000.0012.50

AM: 7.25 miles

PM: 5.25 miles. Slow but strong and smooth.

 

 

Newton Gravity LE Miles: 7.25Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 5.25
Weight: 175.20
Comments
From Matt Schreiber on Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 20:58:48 from 66.17.102.175

Strong and smooth are good. Nice miles!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.250.000.000.0012.25

Lunch: 7.25 miles.

PM: 5 miles w/ 9 x 200 strides (I can't count) in 40 seconds just to loosen up but not hammer.

Megan asked me if I was limping earlier. I said no because I'm not in pain but my legs are very stiff, particularly my left knee that I wacked on the trails. Just really stiff walking down stairs. I've run a lot harder with more mileage for much longer periods of time and felt a lot better than this. Need some rolling time I guess.

Mizuno Musha Miles: 5.00Newton Gravity III Miles: 7.25
Weight: 173.70
Comments
From Matt Schreiber on Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 21:13:18 from 66.17.102.175

Gotta respect the roller. I accidentally give mine a break all too often.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
11.930.000.001.3713.30

AM: Springside Track - 6.3 miles. Bombed workout.

Warmed up 3.5 with some strides. Cool, but actually a bit humid. I almost kept going toward Flourtown because track folks have been there during the mornings and last workout I found it very hard to concentrate. I got through the first mile feeling flat but decent, hoping I wasn't running 5:50 pace. Got through the mile. Effort felt hard, but correct. I didn't see the split because the workout feature doesn't show it the way I have it set up. I need to turn on pace when the rate of failure for overshooting is high.

At this point guys were lining up for drills so I moved over. I got through a bit over a third of a mile and pulled it. Walked 300 meters did 1 200 in 35 seconds and as I came back around they were setting up blocks. So I wouldn't have been able to finish the workout even if I was able to finish the workout.

On closer inspection my mile was 5:22, which is probably more than I can handle right now. It's a non-mile-race PR, but being proud about that is kind of stupid.

I was ticked as usual, but I need to go where I can concentrate. Trying to decide if I should do a treadmill tempo this afternoon (outside is not an option as it will be 70 degrees and humid and I am not adapted to that). Try something tomorrow based on how I feel? Wait until Saturday or Sunday? Just skip it and wait until Monday to do the final half marathon pace workout?

PM: 7 miles. Backup tempo recon. It's got a bit of up and down. Might work.

Saucony A5 Miles: 6.30Kinvara 2 White/Blue Miles: 7.00
Weight: 174.50
Comments
From Jake K on Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 09:16:28 from 159.212.71.25

Don't try to do a make-up workout in the afternoon. I've been down that road, it's a vicious cycle.

You gotta stop almost PRing for the mile at the beginning of workouts!

From Jason D on Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 09:24:22 from 68.80.27.222

I was shooting for 5:30-5:35. My sense of pace is just way off. It's magnified when I have an audience too. I should have gone to the tempo loop but I need to check the construction status.

Yeah, makeup workouts in the afternoon are a bad idea. I'll regroup and figure it out.

From Jake K on Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 09:28:18 from 159.212.71.25

At least you are "off" in the right direction... running a lot faster than you think you are. You are in shape... but need to dial the pace back a bit and you'll be fine.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.000.000.000.0012.00

AM: 8 miles slow. Stretching and core.

PM: 4 miles slow.

Newton Gravity LE Miles: 8.00Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 4.00
Weight: 173.40
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
15.000.000.000.0015.00

Noon: Trails - 7.5 miles

PM: Treadmill - 7.5 miles. Did strides.
 

Inov-8 Roclite 295 Miles: 7.50Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 7.50
Weight: 173.40
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.500.007.500.0016.00

Flourtown Tempo Loop - 16 miles, averaged 7:04

Big Workout. 3 x 2.5 mile LT repeats with 3:30 recovery jogs

4 mile warm up plus strides and light stretching

Repeat 1 in 14:47; 5:55 average. 3:37 recovery jog at 8:26 pace

Repeat 2 in 14:41; 5:53 average. 3:36 recovery jog at 8:11 pace

Repeat 3 in 14:53; 5:57 average

3.6 cool down

Good workout for me today. I usually do 4 x 2 miles with 3:30 recovery jogs just before a half but I wanted a little more pain (even though the overall quality volume is a whisker less). I've done this one once before: fall 2013 2 days before I couldn't walk, so I never got to see how it translated in a half.

I put my pace on and monitored it. I figured 6:05-6:00 would be good. I was glad to get everything under 6:00. Legs are better, but still dead and my left glute was locking a bit (as it sometimes does). Had a little bit of wind to contend with but it wasn't terrible just annoying.

 

Newton Flat 5 Miles: 16.00
Weight: 173.40
Comments
From SlowJoe on Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 17:02:42 from 104.51.208.13

Yep, that's a solid amount of pain right there! Back into form, looking great.

From Bret on Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 23:51:37 from 202.45.10.20

Really nice workout Jason. Good measure of your fitness. Take em when you get em - and forget about the blown ones that happen every now and then.

From Jason D on Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 10:45:34 from 68.80.27.222

Thanks, guys. Things have been tough lately and usually I can point to my running and say, "Well, at least that is going well."

From SlowJoe on Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 08:20:56 from 12.182.148.249

Hang in there, man. I think I've said the same thing to myself in years past. Really good Ks yesterday too!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.500.000.000.0012.50

Lunch: 7.5 miles easy

PM: Treadmill - 5 miles

Newton Gravity III Miles: 7.50Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 5.00
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.250.000.000.0010.25

AM: Off

PM: 10.25 miles. Did some strides. Cold and windy. Started making dinner and I heard thunder.

Late: Stretching and rolling

Kinvara 2 White/Blue Miles: 10.25
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Matt Schreiber on Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 20:52:21 from 66.17.102.175

Thunder? I kind of miss that stuff.

From Jason D on Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 10:48:30 from 68.80.27.222

I miss the warmer weather it is usually associated with. This was not your typical warm weather thunder. I could barely untie my shoes when I got back because they were so cold.

From allie on Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 10:48:51 from 66.249.83.194

i'm glad you got your run in before the storm. i actually turned around two miles into my long run on monday due to lightning, but thankfully it let up pretty quickly.

From Jason D on Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 10:51:10 from 68.80.27.222

I used to think lightening didn't matter that much until one day when I was running in the cemetery when I swear the lighting was coming for me and me only. That easy 4 miler got pretty fast by the end of it.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.900.000.003.1010.00

AM: Flourtown Tempo Loop - 10 miles, averaged 7:32. Stretching and core.

Sharpening Workout of 5 x 1000+ with 2:00 recovery jogs

Warmed up a little over 3 and went straight into the workout. There was a bit of construction so I played nice and jumped on the sidewalk in places. Goal was to get down to low 17-minute 5k pace or under. Couldn't quite get there today but I got a little bit of faster work in. Probably ran too hard given the effort output and could have lengthened the rests just to get the pace in. Plan is to taper a bit. Yep, tapering for a 5k.

Averaged 5:42 pace for the 1000s. Jogs were 9-9:30

Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 10.00
Weight: 173.80
Comments
From Jake K on Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 10:52:34 from 159.212.71.17

Double "Nice!" on this one and the big workout on Sunday.

I almost never say this, but wear your Garmin and don't go out at 5:15 pace! You've had a lot of really good workouts... the only "bombs" have been the ones where you started way too fast. But those served a purpose as well. Go get a 5K PR!

From Jason D on Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 10:58:51 from 68.80.27.222

Thanks, coach :-)

I don't expect too much competition based on previous years, but you never know on race day. Even though it is a certified course (the first certified 5k I've ever run), I am going to strap on the old GPS, mostly so 1) I don't go out too fast 2) so I can turn it more into a time trial if I have no one to chase (or fend off) and race the clock.

From Jake K on Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 11:03:06 from 159.212.71.17

I think that's a great idea. If there aren't people to race... race the watch. It's close enough (assuming you aren't running in a forest or downtown)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.250.000.000.0010.25

AM: 6.25 miles easy.

PM: 4 miles. Core and stretching that I didn'y end up doing earlier.

Feeling very run down. Not just training tired. Likely stress, but I'm going to mark it here in case I need to refer to it in the future.

Newton Gravity LE Miles: 6.25Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 4.00
Weight: 173.80
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.000.000.000.004.00

AM: 4 miles. Did a few strides. Core and stretching at the gym after.

Looks like tomorrow will be warm and windy (it's been warm the last two days here). 20 MPH winds. Hoping it's a tailwind, but I can't get a map even though the course is supposedly certified. Plan is to run as hard as I can and go for the win. It's at the zoo, so maybe first place gets a monkey.

Mizuno Musha Miles: 4.00
Weight: 175.40
Comments
From Jake K on Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 09:56:03 from 159.212.71.200

I don't see a rabbit run...

http://goo.gl/8XCjd2

Just memorize all the maps in your area.

From Jason D on Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 12:57:21 from 68.80.27.222

I found it, but it's not a standard certified map; it's a drawn on map of the zoo.

Looks like paying to park and Megan will have to pay admission to the zoo (at a discount they happily say), which we were going to do anyway but that's pretty crappy. So much for it being a sensible, cost effective race.

I should stick to races that I can warm up to.

From Jake K on Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 13:15:12 from 159.212.71.200

http://goo.gl/4hX5TY

Race: Philly Rabbit 5k (3 Miles) 00:17:26, Place overall: 1, Place in age division: 1
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
11.500.000.003.0014.50

AM: Philly Rabbit 5k in 17:26 (short course).

What a cluster of a race. Just terribly organized. Megan and I got there are around 7:20 and there was a line of at least 100 people. I had her hold our place and warmed up a bit but I was nervous they would start without everyone getting bibs. I didn't get a sufficient warmup. Only 2 miles. Got my bib just before 8:00 when the race was supposed to start. They extended the start time so I changed into my flats and continued to warm up and do some strides. The organizers kept saying they were going to start soon but it kept not starting, so I stood around for a while.

At 8:29 we got going. I started out behind a young guy who knew the course from the previous year. I stayed behind him. There were a lot of winding turns and short, sharp downhills that didn't feel great after standing around. I took the lead around three quarters of a mile and kept the lead. I kept the guy off and always felt like I had several more gears but just couldn't get the legs to move. The wind was pretty unpleasant, blowing around 20-25 MPH. Toward the end of the race I had another guy not far from me but I held him off and kicked it in. The results show a 1 second win, but this couldn't be correct. 

Time was irrelevant today. Last Sunday I ran 3 x 2.5 miles at only 3-4 seconds slower (with a bit too much wine over the weekend) than this 5k today, so I am not upset about it. Need to find a decent 5k I can compete in and run fast. I'm also going to have to do a few weeks of mile-5k stuff this summer to be respectable at Beach to Beacon.

Only cooled down 2 miles. No great place to do it. I did manage to get a $75 gift card, which I appreciated even though it was $15 to park and $15 for Megan to get into the zoo. Megan and I walked around after, which was great but very windy.

PM: Treadmill - 7 miles. Kept my compression socks on, mostly to embarrass Megan

Mizuno Musha Miles: 7.00Saucony A6 Miles: 3.50Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 4.00
Weight: 174.10
Comments
From RileyCook on Sat, Apr 04, 2015 at 13:41:31 from 73.52.134.194

So annoying when races are short and poorly organized! But congrats on the win!

From Bret on Sat, Apr 04, 2015 at 14:53:27 from 99.1.220.106

Congrats on the win Jason.

From Drew on Sat, Apr 04, 2015 at 15:49:12 from 24.92.19.68

I feel pretty strongly that race directors should certify any race of more than a couple hundred runners. Certainly, if you're using timing chips, the distance should be accurate.

I understand there are community and charity races where this wouldn't apply, but outside of that it just smacks of not taking the sport seriously.

Anyway, nice running on your part. At the very least, it was a great workout and practice for more organized competition.

From jtshad on Sat, Apr 04, 2015 at 17:57:01 from 69.20.183.178

Congrats on the win. Too bad about the organization of the race.

From Jake K on Sun, Apr 05, 2015 at 08:43:26 from 98.202.128.218

Nice win... silly course.

You need a 5K on the track!

From Jason D on Sun, Apr 05, 2015 at 11:48:03 from 68.80.27.222

Thanks all. Hoping to not embarrass myself next weekend after a light week this week.

I will only run a marathon if it is certified and the same now goes for the half. Shorter races are less crucial given that I generally use them as workouts. But I will sure complain about them!

I probably could have time trialed a better time on the track or even the tempo loop. Oh well. Onward and upward.

From Jake K on Sun, Apr 05, 2015 at 12:18:52 from 98.202.128.218

The Mid-Atlantic is a good place for open spring/summer track meets. They are the best... usually cost like $5 max and occasionally you'll find a 5000... like this...

http://www.uagtca.org/uagoutdoorinfo.asp

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.000.000.000.0012.00

AM: 8 miles

PM: 4 miles

Little tight in the hamstrings but nothing terrible. Seems like my post-30 inability to quickly recover continues.

Megan and I are going to a prime rib dinner tonight. We've been cutting back on our going out to eat, so I am looking forward to this. Happy Easter.

Newton Gravity LE Miles: 4.00Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 8.00
Weight: 173.20
Comments
From SlowJoe on Sun, Apr 05, 2015 at 19:34:53 from 104.51.208.13

Nice work on the 5k win yesterday. I'd say getting the W and a good tempo makes it a success.

I was just thinking about how I've always been a slow recoverer but I guess I never ran in my 20s. You get no pity from me!

From Jason D on Sun, Apr 05, 2015 at 20:48:57 from 68.80.27.222

Just taking it in stride now. Hoping together some more mile-5k training to build some leg speed and strength prior to my key 10k in August.

Seriously, my first race after I turned 30 I was almost marathon sore. I told Megan I'm waiting to capitalize of my old man strength. I know it's a real thing.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.250.000.000.0012.25

Lunch: 8 miles. Did a few strides.

PM: 4 miles

Newton Gravity III Miles: 8.25Kinvara 5 Miles: 4.00
Weight: 172.50
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.000.004.500.008.50

AM: Off. Came down with a little bit of a cold. It's been quite some time. I guess I was due.

PM: Impromptu Sharpening Workout - 8.5 miles on the treadmill

Decided I would do my workout today and on the treadmill, which seemed silly at first but as I got moving I realized I wouldn't be able to whine tomorrow if my pace was off and I felt sluggish tomorrow. Given that the treadmill isn't super accurate I could just come close and go by effort. I already did a big goal pace workout the weekend before last, so this was more to get the wheels turning (and they have felt pretty rusty lately).

4 x 1 mile: 5:53, 5:50, 5:46, 5:43 w/ quarter mile recovery jog, then 2 x 400 @ 5:30 pace

Felt good today. Easy double tomorrow then descending singles until Sunday's race. Bib number 24, which I think means that is my first official seed (other than Boston). Goal is not to keep a PR out of the question but I'm going to work into it I think. I am not sure I have the strength I usually do from marathon training but my fitness is decent. Got to be under 80 minutes, but I wouldn't be suprised if 78-79 is where I am at.

Mizuno Musha Miles: 8.50
Weight: 173.50
Comments
From Matt Schreiber on Tue, Apr 07, 2015 at 21:00:42 from 66.17.102.175

Great way to get ready for the race. As usual, looking forward to seeing how you do in the 1/2.

From Jake K on Wed, Apr 08, 2015 at 14:41:01 from 199.190.170.30

I wouldn't be surprised if you are on the faster end of the spectrum. You've been really solid on the mile repeats and tempos/races in the 4-6 mile range. So maybe you don't have the margin of error strength that you acquire from marathon training, but if you run it smart, you can run it fast.

From SlowJoe on Wed, Apr 08, 2015 at 15:05:59 from 12.182.148.249

Nice! Crush it on Sunday.

From Jason D on Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 11:35:30 from 68.80.27.222

Thanks, guys. Weather looks ideal. Looking for a sensible start and get moving in the second half and final 5k. Hoping I have some folks to run with, but it might be thin out there.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.250.000.000.0012.25

AM: 7.25 miles

PM: Treadmill - 5 miles. Stretching, core, and pushups. Getting pretty strong. I can knock out 35-40 before and after each of my runs. Not going to be Mr. Universe but trying to make my arms a bit leaner. Helps with arm swing and race fatigue too I think.

Mizuno Musha Miles: 5.00Kinvara 2 White/Blue Miles: 7.25
Weight: 172.90
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.000.000.000.007.00

AM: 7 miles slow. Purposefully, but slower than I even thought.

Kinvara 5 Miles: 7.00
Weight: 174.00
Comments
From Bret on Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 08:05:51 from 198.73.226.15

Good luck in the race!

From Jason D on Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 10:00:22 from 68.80.27.222

Thanks, Bret. Weather looks ideal.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.000.000.000.006.00

Noon: 6 miles easy. Did some strides in the middle, mostly barefoot on the turf.

I got moving pretty good and had fun. Always feels good to run fast barefoot. I used to jog barefoot a bit in my basement and do drills. Need to do more of that.

Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 5.25
Weight: 174.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.300.000.000.004.30

Noon: 4.3 miles with Megan. A few pickups here and there crossing the street but nothing serious.

Newton Gravity LE Miles: 4.30
Weight: 175.00
Comments
From Matt Schreiber on Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 19:54:57 from 66.17.102.175

Good luck Jason!

Runner tracking is set!

Race: Rutgers Unite Half Marathon (13.109 Miles) 01:20:05, Place overall: 13
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
3.500.0013.000.0016.50

AM: Rutgers Unite Half Marathon in 1:20:05

I didn't deserve to run much faster but I was somewhat suprised by the lack of sub-6:00 miles given that workouts, although not great, have been solidly in the 5:5X range. Part of the problem today was a lack of a proper warmup. These days I don't run fewer than two miles before a half. Today I got in a 5 minutes. Driving to New Jersey, the shuttle, etc.

Started out fine, but felt very flat. Breathing was up and it took me a while to settle and I really didn't want to run after 2-3 miles. About 5-6 miles in a felt better and my breathing settled, but I lacked turnover. I ran behind a guy who increasingly was having a hard time. I could feel my legs waking up but still no real snap. I got passed around mile 9, but spent the final 5k reeling him back in and kicked from behind just before the 13 mile marker and handily beat himw with a 32.5 second partial (with a little bit of performance enhancing downhill).

The course was okay, aside from 3 180-degree turns and some really rough pavement.

Slowest half marathon in 2 years, but I'm fine with today. I'm going to keep pressing on.

The rich chocolatey goodness: 5:58, 6:04, 12:10 (missed), 6:04, 6:01, 6:10, 6:12, 6:04, 6:21 (not sure. bridge?), 6:07, 6:09, 6:05, 32.5 seconds (decent downhill)

Megan told me a guy ran about 4:50 pace for roughly the first 5 miles or 10k. Turns out he ran 10 miles in 46:42 or 4:40 pace. He's 45, so I'm guessing he cheated and still didn't win, running 1:27 something. Or maybe he had a funky chip. But I am guessing something is rotten in the state of New Jersey. On closer thought, he may have been the guy in the wheel chair but he has no 10k time.

3 mile cool down. Felt a little loopy.

PM: Likely no shakeout

Saucony A6 Miles: 13.50Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 3.00
Weight: 174.00
Comments
From Jake K on Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 12:59:46 from 98.202.128.218

Good assessment of New Jersey :-)

Not your best run ever, but still solid. If nothing else, very consistent running throughout the race. Seems like you were just locked into that 6:05-6:10 pace range. Maybe a little more warmup will help the beginning feel less awful. You'll be able to be a little more aggressive at Broad Street and run ALL 5:XXs.

From Drew on Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 16:20:02 from 24.92.19.68

Nice pacing Jason, it seems you ran with what you had today, which is sometimes all you can do.

Good attitude in not getting bogged down too - with your consistency the difference between a blah race and a very good race can come down to how you feel on race day. In other words, things could turn around very quickly.

From Matt Schreiber on Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 21:52:44 from 66.17.102.175

Nice work Jason. I know it's not quite where you thought the end result would be, but it's still a really good race for you. Nice work. Looking forward to seeing how Broad Street goes now that you're in the half mindset!

From SlowJoe on Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 08:43:01 from 12.182.148.249

An off day, probably, but still not too far off. When I pork a race I tend to do it in spectacular fashion but you just had a small miss here, probably because of a lot of small things adding up. Good work.

From Bret on Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 08:55:14 from 216.234.133.229

Decent showing - solid effort with all things considered Jason. Nice job.

I should mention that my very early years were spent not too far from Piscatway NJ - I was just a town over in Dunellen until I was 5. Fairly nice area from what I can recall.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.100.000.000.0010.10

AM: 6 miles slow. Some light hip stretching.

Feel pretty good. Quite sluggish but not too bad.

PM: 4 miles. No time for more. Less sluggish.

Megan almost beat me for mileage today. She's gearing up for Broad Street, so we will be extending our occasional outside runs with maybe some tempo minutes this weekend.

Kinvara 5 Miles: 4.00Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 6.00
Weight: 173.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
14.000.000.000.0014.00

AM: 8.25 miles slow

PM: 5.75 miles slow. Stretching and core.

Slowing things down even more than my recent committment to slow down from what ends up being ~8:00-8:15 to 8:20-8:40. Today I ran 9:05 in the morning with only 1.25 miles under 9 minutes. Tonight I ran 9:20 (but over some technical trails in spots) and ran only 1.75 miles under 9 minutes. I'm hoping it burns some more lard and running is really enjoyable when you slow way down.

Observation: Strides become even more important when you run your easy runs slow as you get pretty stale.

Newton Gravity III Miles: 8.25Kinvara 2 White/Blue Miles: 5.75
Weight: 174.70
Comments
From Matt Schreiber on Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 21:44:51 from 66.17.102.175

Keeping it enjoyable.. I like it. Thanks for the reminder on running slow.

From SlowJoe on Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 07:43:10 from 12.182.148.249

I noticed the same thing with the staleness, and started doing strides last week...ugh. Need to set a reminder somehow!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.600.000.000.0010.60

AM/Lunch: Wissahickon Valley Trails - 10.6 mile w/ ~1200 feet of gain.

I fell of course but only once and more of a stumble if we are keeping track. That's probably it for today (100 minutes on my feet is fine for today) even though the weather is very dry and around 70 degrees and mostly sunny. Very tempted to pack on miles and see if we can get this machine looking like a runner by August 1.

Decided to race a 5k on Sunday to get the legs spinning. A few of the Wanderers are also running, so I might have some guys to latch on to, and see if we can beat up on the young guns.

Inov-8 Roclite 295 Miles: 10.60
Weight: 173.10
Comments
From Matt Schreiber on Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 20:45:29 from 66.17.102.175

Even a bad stumble is not equivalent to a fall. Good idea on the 5k. It's been a while since you ran one. 2 weeks?! :) Seriously, seems like some quick turnover would be good. Good luck!

From Rob Murphy on Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 21:29:29 from 24.10.247.181

Sunday races!

That's not a thing in Utah. Too bad since I always have track meets on Saturday.

From Jason D on Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 16:27:23 from 68.80.27.222

You get east of the Alleghenies and you get Sunday races. As near as I can tell, when you get to Ohio you start getting Saturday races. In Indiana they were always Saturday races, which I liked.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
13.250.000.000.0013.25

AM: 8.25 miles easy. Stretching and core.

PM: 5 miles easy. Did a few strides to wake the legs up from their sleepy 9-minute pace revery.

The humidity has been in the 20-30% range in the afternoon. It's glorious. Except for the fire danger warning. It's 67-72. I could use a few weeks of this.

Newton Gravity III Miles: 5.00Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 8.25
Weight: 174.60
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
11.000.000.000.0011.00

Lunch/PM: Wissahickon Valley Trails - 11 miles w/ 950 feet of gain

Paid some bills, felt good and bad about that, then plodded on the trails for just under two hours #notbad I jumped a deer (I was very close to it) and a few frogs. The greenery is getting green.

Inov-8 Roclite 295 Miles: 11.00
Weight: 172.70
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.000.000.000.008.00

PM: 8 miles w/ Megan.

Just under 80 degrees with 25% humidity. I'm getting used to this. Best run of the year. Goal was to get Megan some time on her feet. She was working coming up the hill and of course I was goofing off with an old piece of bamboo pretending I was carrying a pacer's stick in between swiping at cars that might come too close to us.

Legs are feeling good after all the really easy running. 5k course tomorrow looks fast and flat. I need to make sure I get a good warmup, and not make the mistake I have the last two races.

Weight: 172.80
Race: Run for Jake 5k (3.03 Miles) 00:16:57, Place overall: 3, Place in age division: 1
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
11.300.000.003.0014.30

AM: Run for Jake 5k in 16:57. A little short on the Garmin at 3.03 but still a PR given that my posted 5k is for a 3.05

Warmed up 2.8, which wasn't enough but better than I have been doing. Did a few brief strides. Weather was dry and fairly cool with some decent sun.

I found Leo and Jonathan at the start line and introduced myself (they are two of the Wissahickon Wanderers, an informal running club I am a part of).

A slight uphill start and I got through some young, overzelous high schoolers. There was a pack of 4 or 5 that I passed and we hit some slight downhills as I tried to keep Jonathan in range, knowing he is faster than I am. The course flattened out and I could see the first mile marker ticking sub-5:00 and crossed somewhere around 5:10-5:15 but it was definitely short, Garmin believer or not. Mile 1 split later at 5:22. That seemed about right.

I realized about this point I was in 3rd and feeling really good. I maintained perhaps 15-20 seconds on Jonathan. Leader was pretty much gone after the turn around, which was probably 1.5 miles. I slowed quite a bit but tried to grind it out. Two miles was under 11 minutes and 11:03 on my watch. Mile 2 5:41. There was a slight winding grade and I started to lose time. I still felt pretty good but my legs were firing on all cylinders, probably complacent 3rd place mode. Someome coming the other way shouted some encouragement. Something like "you don't even look tired!"

Crested the small hill and got a nice bit of downhill. Jonathan is lost at this point. I can see the course flatten out but can't see the finish. I should have pushed harder here. I did push but I should have sooner as I crested the hill because I had another few gears. I got a nice response from the crowd and started to dig. Saw 16:42 on the clock and immediately grabbed another gear. Mile 3: 5:45. 9 seconds for .03. On closer inspection the last ~.25 was around 5:00 flat or a bit under. I recovered pretty quickly so the effort wasn't all there but it wasn't easy.

Jonathan got me by about 30 seconds and Leo came in about 18 seconds behind me. The winner ran 15:low.

2.8 cool down with Leo and Jonathan.

I got shafted during the awards. They were supposed to award to top 3, but they only did top 2 then they didn't count me for the first age group award. I put in a mild complaint, not really caring about the medal but that's just silly logic.

PM: 5.7 easy. Stretching and core.

Newton Gravity LE Miles: 5.70Saucony A6 Miles: 5.80Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 2.80
Weight: 174.70
Comments
From Bret on Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 18:52:59 from 99.1.220.106

Nice race Jason - and a PR as well - congrats!

From Tom K on Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 20:06:36 from 174.58.54.215

Great race and great report. And, you've got me ticked off about the awards!

From Matt Schreiber on Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 20:38:11 from 66.17.102.175

You did get the shaft on that one. Especially for a PR! Nice run!

From jtshad on Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 07:42:46 from 141.221.191.225

Congrats on a great race.

From SlowJoe on Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 09:06:42 from 12.182.148.249

Still pretty cool to see the 16:xx there, even if it was short. Sounds like a PR effort for sure, congrats.

From joebell1981 on Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 14:59:01 from 99.39.133.24

Wow! Congrats, Jason!

From Jason D on Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 18:45:36 from 68.80.27.222

Thanks, everyone. I'm hoping to get as many 5ks this summer as the budget allows and do a block of mile/3k/5k training leading up to Beach to Beacon to see if I can get this 170 lb frame to float a little faster.

From Jake K on Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 13:33:57 from 198.134.92.173

Nice run... And thanks for supporting the Run for Jake. All proceeds go to... skiing.

Who does top 2 awards??

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
11.000.000.000.0011.00

PM: 11 miles easy. Felt great. Humid but not too hot.

Kinvara 5 Miles: 11.00
Weight: 173.40
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.000.000.000.000.00

Day off. 32 days on. Would have rather run but rest is good and sensible.

(weight 173.7)

Late: Stretching and light core

Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.750.006.250.0015.00

AM/Lunch - Backup Tempo Loop - 15 miles, averaged 7:29

Did 10 x 1000 w/ 90 second jogs, averaged  ~3:37

Warmed up 5 miles instead of the planned 3-4 because the Flourtown tempo loop is under construction still. It was between there, Forbidden Drive (too much tree cover), and the track (too many kids more than likely). Only did a few quick strides because I wanted to get moving and I already had over 40 minutes of warmup.

First one was on the faster end of things at just under 3:33. Ended up doing fairly well. I checked in on my watch a bit but it was showing current pace, which doesn't help much for a 3:30+ interval. Where there's consistency there wasn't any looking. Go figure.

3:32.6, 3:35.3, 3:38.4, 3:37.8, 3:36.5, 3:38.3, 3:38.2, 3:38.7, 3:40.3, 3:36.3 (3:37.2 average)

2.4 cool down with a good bit of climbing, which hurt quite a bit. Tough workout but a good one.

PM:

Saucony A6 Miles: 15.00
Weight: 172.40
Comments
From Matt Schreiber on Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 19:43:25 from 66.17.102.175

10 reps! Looks good, and your last rep was faster than your average.

From RileyCook on Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 10:03:58 from 208.54.4.185

Awesome work. Seems like 1000s is the workout of choice this week. Matt, you should get in on that!

From Jason D on Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 10:11:47 from 68.80.27.222

Admittedly, I sometimes go with what's trending :-) I had either 6 x 1 mile or 10 x 1000 scheduled but I decided something faster than LT and close to 5k. I achieved that.

I want to run sub-75 minutes in the half this fall and if I just keep doing mile repeats at 5:45-6:00 I'm never going to get there. With this workout I still get the volume but the rest is relatively short. The effort was about a notch or two higher than my usual mile repeat effort.

Felt the lungs burning on the first two, which I haven't felt for a while.

From SlowJoe on Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 16:49:13 from 107.77.64.34

I hate Ks because I can't tell what the times mean but these seem very good even for a fast guy. 10 of em!!

From Matt Schreiber on Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 21:27:53 from 66.17.102.175

I think you're right Riley! I'm with Joe on these though. I wouldn't know if they were fast or not.

Good to see the lungs burning Jason!

From Jason D on Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 22:12:23 from 68.80.27.222

I only can covert a few. This was only 5:50 average (5:42 to as slow as 5:52). 4-5 weeks ago I ran 5:55 for 4 x 2 miles. You have to go by effort. 3:25-3:28 is right around sub-17 5k or 5:27.

3:08 is 5:00 pace as I recall. You'll see the fast guys on the blog running in 3:teen to 3:singles. Riley was under 3:00 the other day. I haven't seen that too much (once I think and that was Jake B.) Paul does them fairly often. During the half champs of 2013 it was pretty much every other week. I wouldn't be surprised if you see him doing them in the coming weeks. Yes, I keep an eye on everyone pretty closely :)

1000s are good. You can do 5 x 1000 for practicing 5k pace (even with shorter rest it doesn't covert but it's a good workout). 6-10 around 12k-5mile pace is to help bring down your lactate threshold (what I was doing). You can tinker from there. Keep the rest short.

From RileyCook on Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 07:21:51 from 73.52.134.194

It's true they are hard to convert! I only understand the times in my range. Knowing 3:07.5 is 5:00 pace (for 1600 meters, almost mile) you can add or subtract 2.5 seconds for 4 seconds of mile pace. So 3:05 is 4:56, while 3:10 is 5:04. 3:00 is 4:48-ish and 3:15 is 5:12, etc.

In college 1000s were a main staple, mostly in early cross country training as rust busters. We'd do 15x1k with 60 second rest. Start at 3:15 per rep but by mid season get down to 3:00-flat. Some fit 10k runners would do 20 reps! But I never did that.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
13.500.000.000.0013.50

AM: 7.25 miles easy. A little bit of hip stretching.

PM: Trails - 6.25 miles

Inov-8 Roclite 295 Miles: 6.25Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 7.25
Weight: 171.90
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.300.000.000.0012.30

Wisshickon Valley Trails - 12.3 miles in a bit over 2 hours with 1300+ feet of climbing

Stretching and core after some lunch.

Salomon SL Sense Ultra Miles: 12.30
Weight: 171.90
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.000.001.000.0011.00

PM: 11 miles mostly easy w/ 1 mile @ 5:46 and 4 x 200 strides in 35-36 seconds on the track at the end.

Think I paid a little tree tax (Forbidden Drive) on the mile because it felt pretty hard and faster than 5:43-5:46. Strava adjusted it to 5:26, which was very nice of them. The primary purpose was to inject a little speed into my as of late 8:40-9:30 easy pace. Running for two hours on trails will slow your foot speed down too.

Saw an honest to goodness cricket game going on across from the track. I assumed "Philadelphia Cricket Club" was a place for old men to hide from their wives so they could drink, smoke cigars, and play cards.

Core and stretching after a little lunch.

Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 11.00
Weight: 171.90
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.500.000.000.0010.50

PM: 10.5 miles easy. HR 145. Enjoyable run. 60ish, partly cloudy, and dry!

Wore my heart rate monitor for curiosity. I kept the same easy pace I have been 8:30-9:00. I would have thought it would be lower but I guess the heart rate is where is should be. I need to ask the resident expert, Bret Jardine, how I am supposed to keep it adjusted. I keep having to monkey with it.

Heart rate while I was sitting at the table was 38-40, which seemed low after being up for a bit and having a ton of coffee but I checked it against the manual test and I got about 42 when it was reading 40/41.

Kinvara 5 Miles: 10.50
Weight: 173.80
Comments
From Bret on Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 18:46:51 from 99.1.220.106

Is the strap is too loose? I usually keep it pretty tight, and it doesn't require too much adjustment.

The resting HR is good.

What's your HR max? Once we get that we can sort out the HRR to figure out the proper HR for your easy runs.

From Jason D on Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 19:07:27 from 68.80.27.222

I think I need to notch it up a bit. I just didn't want to throw it off too much.

I used the basic formula to determine HR reserve and my zones. I know there are many suggested formulas but my breakdown looks some like this for the basic:

115-152 fat burning

152-167 aerobic zone

167-175 lactate threshold

My terms might not be lining up, but basically easy/recovery, maintenance to upper end of marathon pace, lactate threshold.

I think the problem with the basic is that it only gives me a max of 190, which is obviously higher than I want to train at for an long durations. On the treadmill I've pushed a LT tempo from 168-178 or so. Seems like it would sky rocket during a 5k session.

From Bret on Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 07:21:19 from 216.234.133.229

So - (you may already know this - apologies if so) if you are using 190 as your max HR based on the generic formula of 220-age; (which is not necessarily wrong, but you may want to conduct some of your own testing to determine your true max HR) - I would use the following:

Most "aerobic" efforts according to Lydiard's 1/2 effort - translate to about 70% HRR. 1/4 effort is about 65% HRR - and high aerobic is 75-80% HRR.

That calculation for 70% is Max HR - Resting HR * 70% + Resting HR = HRR. So 190-40 x 70% +40 = 145.

So if you are doing your easy runs at a 145 HR - and it may be humbling to see what that pace actually is per mile - eventually your body will become more efficient and will be able to sustain a much faster pace at the same HR - and at the same time be less taxing on your body.

For me - if I lock into running at around the HRR's as mentioned above - with most of the aerobic efforts right at 70% HRR - and the recovery efforts below 65% - my pace per mile gradually decreases (I get faster) with the same HR effort as I get more and more aerobically efficient.

Depending on your level of fitness and natural talent - this can be dramatic. Google Mark Allen - triathlete and HR training. Although he could race in the low 5 min range per mile he was struggling in competitions - he discovered that his HRR in the 70% range was actually 8:15 pace. After several months of training using this method, he was able to drop his pace still at that same HR into the 5:20 ppm range and thus extend his aerobic endurance.

From Jason D on Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 10:53:00 from 68.80.27.222

Thanks for the helpful feedback. I used to use the monitor on the treadmill so that I wasn't worrying about pace too much. Lately I have been working to hard to hit 8:00-8:15 (for whatever reason). I turned off my pace a few months ago and check it when I am done. I've been slowing backing down my easy pace more and more.

I've been running pretty slow and the HR monitor confirmed that I am more or less in the range. I could have run the entry run above slower, although I was quite comfortable. It could have been under 140 I think. My average pace was 8:45 for a dry day with a decent amount of climb at the end. But, yes, quite humbling! I expected it to be solidly in the 130 range.

Thanks again for the tips. I'll check out Mark Allen.

From Bret on Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 11:55:44 from 216.234.133.229

Cool. I think you have it zeroed-in with 10.5 miles at 145 HR - for a solid aerobic effort. If that was for recovery, I would slow it down just a bit.

Some days after a hard training effort, that 145 HR may translate to a much slower pace per mile - but what you are really looking for is the benefits of the aerobic blood flow and the restoration of the proper ph levels after anaerobic efforts. In other words, you should not really care what the pace is - it should be about time and the proper HR effort to maximize the benefits of adaptation in recovery. And if you can do that by feel instead of using the HR monitor - than you are way ahead of the game.

From Jason D on Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 13:44:25 from 68.80.27.222

I only display time of day and mileage on my watch at this point. Like my pace, I am only checking my heart rate after runs. The idea is to try to intuit the heart rate based on effort. Today I might have been a little slow, but it is a pace I have gotten comfortable at and I enjoy my runs a lot more and they feel a lot less like work, which is what I want most days.

The day after a workout I will try to see if I can keep it under 140.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.500.000.000.0010.50

PM: 10.5 miles easy. HR 139. 40 resting.

Had to take advantage of the Valley Green bathroom just before mile 8. Figured I would get it over with before things got ugly.

Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 10.50
Weight: 171.90
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.400.000.002.5010.90

AM: 4 miles easy. HR 144. Stretching and core.

PM: Short Track Workout with Leo and Jonathan

Jonathan was doing a couple 800s since he is doing the Pittsburg Marathon. Leo was doing 6 x 800. I was doing whatever they had planned on.

I ended up doing 4 x 800 then 4 x 200. I led the third 800 and went to fast because I am an idiot. Nothing like looking like a hot shot on your first workout with a new group. Ran another one with Leo. Jonathan stopped, but jumped back in for a bit with Leo at one point while I did 4 x 200.

4 x 800 w/ 85 second rest ~2:40 (missed the first 400), 2:40, 3:36 (nice work, Jason), 2:44

85 seconds rest, then

4 x 200 with 200 jogs 33.3, 35.2, 34.2, 33.9

HR was 172-176 for the 800s, which doesn't seem high enough, but had I continued I guess it would have skyrocketed. I think I will put my pace on next time or bring my Timex.

Saucony A5 Miles: 6.90Newton Gravity LE Miles: 4.00
Weight: 174.30
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.250.000.000.0012.25

AM/Lunch - 8 miles slow. HR 142. Core and stretching.

PM: 4.25 mile w/ Megan. HR 137 (but I was jabbering the whole time).

Enjoyed the run. Showed Megan a few neighborhoods just across the street from Philadelphia proper. 75 and 27% humidity. Loving the dry air.

 

Kinvara 2 White/Blue Miles: 4.25Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 8.00
Weight: 172.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.000.000.000.008.00

AM: 8 miles. HR 156. Core and stretching.

PM: Off. Decided it was high time to start tapering off for Broad Street.

Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 8.00
Weight: 174.20
Comments
From Matt Schreiber on Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 21:09:57 from 66.17.112.31

Broad Street looks fun! I'd like to get into the TC10 some year. Big 10 miler up in Minneapolis. You should put it on your radar!

From Jason D on Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 21:56:03 from 68.80.27.222

It's huge! Probably the biggest race I've ever run. Bigger than even a bloated Boston 2014. 153 feet of drop over 10 miles, point to point, and pretty straight. Now if they could whip up a nice tail wind :-)

I'll check out that 10 miler. It's a good distance I think, especially for someone of my ability. A solid test of lactate threshold given it will be close to an hour. Better not take longer than that! My 10 mile split from my PR half is 58:59 I think.

From Matt Schreiber on Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 22:00:27 from 66.17.112.31

That sounds unreal! It seems like it'd be a fun distance to train for. That tailwind does sound kind of fun!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.250.000.000.007.25

PM: 7.25 miles. HR 150.

Kinvara 5 Miles: 7.25
Weight: 174.20
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.000.000.000.005.00

AM/Lunch: 5 miles. HR 152. Did some strides. Stretching.

Typical pre-race run. Legs are junk, I'm fat, nobody likes me (even the cat). Should be somewhat warm tomorrow (60 at the start) but not bad. I will have VIP bathroom and parking access, as well as my private track to warm up on (La Salle is ~1/2 mile away). Good thing too because there's no way I'm running through the neighborhood and the area around the race will be an absolute zoo.

Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 5.00
Weight: 174.20
Comments
From allie on Sat, May 02, 2015 at 10:50:03 from 24.99.46.55

come on, cat!

good luck with the race tomorrow. 10-milers are the best!

From jtshad on Sat, May 02, 2015 at 10:54:21 from 69.20.183.178

Good luck tomorrow, fat man! :)

From Jason D on Sat, May 02, 2015 at 11:10:58 from 68.80.27.222

Thanks, guys. Those made me smile.

Allie: There are a fair number of 10 milers around, which I didn't see too much of in Indiana, other than one. I really like the 15k distance as prep for a half.

I saw your comment in response to Joe's post about running slow. You're are more than welcome to join my old man running club. So far it is solo but some days it looks like this:

https://www.strava.com/activities/294850245

From Bret on Sat, May 02, 2015 at 17:05:16 from 68.235.233.40

Have a great race tomorrow Jason.

Race: Broad Street Run (10 Miles) 00:59:28, Place overall: 154, Place in age division: 22
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.500.0010.000.0014.50

Broad Street Run in 59:28. 2.5 up/10 mile race/2 down

WU HR 150?! (nerves? error?), Race HR 173 average, CD HR 143

I had a good race, but not a great one. I raced a bit aggressively for the first 2-3 miles then fell into 6:00 pace purgatory but I ran more or less as hard as I could. Wore my heart rate monitor, which I wouldn't normally do in a race but I was just kind of curious given that it would be a pretty solid indication of LT and I wanted some data for times I might be on the treadmill or when it is warm and I complain about pace being slow.

Megan ran well, negative splitting.

I'll post a bit more later.

Warmed up on La Salle's track, which was fairly uneven (either grooved or pitted I couldn't decide). It's only 6 lanes, so it doesn't meet the NCAA changes that were made sometime in the 80s when they went to 8 (or so a student told me). Walked about 7/10 of a mile to the start line, left Megan, did some stridesm and lined up. I was able to get pretty close to the start line.

First few miles were fast and I was feeling bullet proof. Miles 3-6 were harder than I wanted and the last 4 miles were all tough (even though gently downhill). Hit the entrance to the Navy Yard (quarter to go) and started to dig in a little bit. Started passing some guys. I heard the announcer call my name and say something about the Dodge Motor Company. I could hear a lot of encouragement from the crowd as I was passing people. Coupled with the announcers voice, I gave the crowd a few fist pumps.

The rich chocolatey goodness: 5:43, 5:40, 5:54, 5:58, 6:01, 5:58, 5:57, 6:06, 6:06, 5:51

Trying to view the race and fitness built this winter and spring as positive and as a ground for the foundation for a fast fall marathon (admittedly a bit disappointed with how it has gone). I am doing 3-4 weeks of maintenance then 8 weeks to Beach to Beacon in preparation for fall. The idea is to do some honest "speed work" (sorry, Rob, I'm not sure what else to call it) to lay that foundation.

As this week I have down on my schedule "run whatever feels right." I don't do enough of those.

Saucony A6 Miles: 14.50
Weight: 174.20
Comments
From Jake K on Sun, May 03, 2015 at 17:20:46 from 98.202.128.218

Good race Jason. Glad you are happy with it.

From Bret on Sun, May 03, 2015 at 17:46:07 from 68.235.233.40

Nice effort / race Jason - curious if you just wore the HRM to record the data for analysis afterward or if you paid attention to it during the race at all.

From RileyCook on Sun, May 03, 2015 at 17:55:40 from 73.52.134.194

Nice race Jason. Running more or less as hard as we can is all we can really ask of ourselves. I saw your run on Strava, just a straight line for 10 miles huh?

From Jason D on Sun, May 03, 2015 at 19:25:33 from 68.80.27.222

Bret: I've turned of pace for easy runs or heart rate since I've been tracking it. I only check after. I had my pace on for the race though. Checked HR after ~165 first mile, straight to 175 pretty much for the remainder of the race. 173 average. So 87-90 of HR reserve. Riding the red line I believe. In the few times I've used a heart rate monitor I can tell where LT is. My easy run comfort zone is around 135-145. 150+ just isn't as enjoyable.

Straight as a string, Riley. It's a major thoroughfare straight through Center City. About 150 net drop. Wish I could have kept rolling and taking advantage of the gentle downhill but my legs didn't have it. Home to the fastest 10 miler on American soil I believe.

From Rob Murphy on Sun, May 03, 2015 at 20:05:06 from 24.10.247.181

Not bad at all Jason.

From Matt Schreiber on Sun, May 03, 2015 at 21:07:35 from 66.17.112.31

I couldn't draw a straighter line than that if I tried. Really, I couldn't.

Nice race Jason. Way to keep 'er under an hour!

From SlowJoe on Mon, May 04, 2015 at 07:19:26 from 12.182.148.249

Competitive race! Nice work, Jason...cool to see the sub-60 time.

From jtshad on Mon, May 04, 2015 at 08:20:13 from 69.20.183.178

Strong race! Congrats.

From Drew on Mon, May 04, 2015 at 14:59:39 from 24.73.66.122

Nice race, Jason. Also - your plan sounds good - a week to unwind, then using your consistent miles to improve speed.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.500.000.000.0012.50

AM: 8 miles easy. HR 138.

A little soreness throughout the legs, but overall they feel pretty good. No workouts for probably a week.

PM: 4.5 miles. HR 149. First mile seemed to throw the HR up for some reason.

Lower 80s and 25% humidity. Welcome to the east coast desert!

Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 4.50Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 8.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From allie on Mon, May 04, 2015 at 18:01:38 from 24.99.46.55

it has been similar weather in atlanta...feels a lot like utah right now.

nice job with your race yesterday.

From Jason D on Mon, May 04, 2015 at 20:47:40 from 68.80.27.222

So there's a elevated fire warning? At least it's comfortable for my running.

Philly humidity isn't fun, but it ain't no Georgia!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.250.000.000.0012.25

AM: 8.25 miles. HR 156 (mile 2 reading error).

PM: 4 miles w/ Megan. HR 141.

 

Mizuno Musha Miles: 4.00Kinvara 5 Miles: 8.25
Weight: 174.20
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
14.000.000.000.0014.00

AM/Lunch: 8.75 miles. HR 155.

PM: 5.25 miles slow. HR 141.

Newton Gravity LE Miles: 5.25Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 8.70
Weight: 174.20
Race: Wissahickon Wanderers May Trail Series #1 (3 Miles) 00:21:07, Place overall: 5
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.000.000.003.0013.00

AM: 4 miles. HR 140. Stretching and core.

Going to do an informal 3 mile trail race this afternoon. No entry fee, no bibs. I'll spend a bit of time on the trails getting there and back too.

PM: Wissahickon Wanderers Trail Race #1. 3 miler in 21:07 - 9 miles total

WU HR 15, Race HR 175, CD HR 143

Warmed up on the trails for 3 mile to commute to Valley Green. Warmish. About 80 or so. Wasn't sure if I wanted to race or just have fun. I ended up running fairly hard. Flat for ~3/10 of a mile, a decent climb, some single track, some sharp turns, and a kamakazee decent. About 200 meters of Forbidden drive. I stayed behind the lead pack and they slowly got away from me but I camped out behind a guy for a while. Sorry dude.

I hadn't been on this section so I wasn't quite sure what to expect. I waited until about 2.5 miles and ran by him before the hill and bombed the descent. Sharp turn on to Forbidden Drive, and I kicked just under 250 meters out, running it in at 4:50 pace. Kicking in trail shoes. Never done that before.

Splits: 6:51, 7:49, 6:22

A better picture of the race (below)

https://www.strava.com/activities/300192997/overview

It was truly a fun race and got a little workout in even though I wasn't supposed to do anything hard until at least this weekend.

3 miles back home on the trails after standing around a little too long, but I met a few people and chatted with them.

Salomon SL Sense Ultra Miles: 9.00Newton Gravity III Miles: 4.00
Weight: 174.20
Comments
From Bret on Fri, May 08, 2015 at 05:27:51 from 68.235.233.40

Sounds like a lot of fun. Nice job Jason.

From SlowJoe on Fri, May 08, 2015 at 18:15:07 from 104.51.208.13

Really good way to get in a workout, nice job on this.

From Jason D on Fri, May 08, 2015 at 20:13:37 from 68.80.27.222

It was more of a workout than I planned but I have a another 5k in a week and I would like to take an honest crack at sub-17 (it's a certified course).

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
13.000.000.000.0013.00

AM: 8.25 miles easy. HR 145.

PM: 4.75 miles easy. HR 138.

My watch was busted so I picked up a new one and a new HR monitor. My old one was from my first Garmin I got in 2010. I am pretty sure my heart rate has been fairly inaccurate given how I felt during the afternoon run with the new one and the results I got. I know I'm not an Olympic athlete but I should be able to get me heart rate much lower than 140-145 for 9:30-9:40 pace.

The 620 is pretty amazing. In a lot of ways it has too much stuff, but I like to look at numbers (just not so much when I am running). I got the stupid extra warranty because if anything goes wrong I want it covered. If not, it's the last Garmin I will ever buy. Hopefuly IT IS the last Garmin I ever buy.

Kinvara 2 White/Blue Miles: 4.75Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 8.25
Weight: 172.40
Comments
From Fritz on Sat, May 09, 2015 at 13:32:03 from 65.100.192.78

I kind of wish my watch would completely die so I could justify getting the 620 or 920. Maybe an "accident" is looming. Lots of good miles lately. Nice job.

From RileyCook on Sat, May 09, 2015 at 14:21:42 from 73.52.134.194

Yeah it's hard to replace your watch if the old one is still working, but a new one would be nice.

Enjoy the new watch Jason. I'd agree that your HR should be lower than 140 for 9:30 pace.

From Jason D on Sat, May 09, 2015 at 14:22:06 from 68.80.27.222

Everyone else seems to have good luck with theirs. Mine all seem to mess up in one way or another (died, broken strap, fogged over screen, etc). The 620 is pretty jazzy. A bit too much money I suppose.

From Jason D on Sat, May 09, 2015 at 14:29:59 from 68.80.27.222

The heart rate guess was based on some admittedly very unscientific, unmathematically sound comparisons :-) It would also read 160-170 while running 10 minute pace while I was talking Megan's ear off.

I've been checking other folk's training and although I am not even close to the same shape (and never will be) I wasn't able to get my HR low enough for really proper recovery despite running about as slow as I can manage.

If I had to run much slower I am not sure I would be moving forward!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.000.000.000.008.00

PM: 8 miles. HR 143.

More humid but pleasant. I think I will use the old BMX safety gear deodorant trick on my heart rate monitor to keep it from getting too stinky.

Good week. Mostly just really slow stuff, but I'm feeling good. I'll start making sure I get my 16+ mile LR from now until Beach to Beacon. I started out the year well with long runs then let the snow cause me to fall apart. I'll do a faster workout early in the week and a race on Saturday and see how I respond and adjust from there. Not sure if I will be able to handle track workouts and 80-85 but they can't be too much harder than the 80-95 with workouts I've done in the past.

Kinvara 5 Miles: 8.00
Weight: 173.10
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
16.000.000.000.0016.00

PM: 16 miles slow. HR 150.

Warm, humid, and the dew point is up. My endurance is terrible. Baseline established.

Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 16.00
Weight: 174.20
Comments
From Matt Schreiber on Sun, May 10, 2015 at 19:57:26 from 66.17.112.31

150 sounds good. Onward an upward.. ;)

From Jason D on Sun, May 10, 2015 at 20:01:35 from 68.80.27.222

It shot up significantly in the last 4 miles. Hill, humidity, and awhile on my feet. This was just under 9-minute pace. Hoping to see some improvements in the coming weeks.

Thanks for reminding me of my motto. I need to keep it in mind.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
13.500.000.000.0013.50

AM: 8.5 miles. HR 144.

The SlowJoe numbers 76/77%/67 DP. Not terrible mind you, but I've been running in the 70s with humity between 25-40% with the dew point in the 40s.

PM: 5 miles. HR 146. Did a bunch of strides.

Late: Stretching and core that I didn't finish earlier.

Mizuno Musha Miles: 5.00Newton Gravity III Miles: 8.25
Weight: 174.20
Comments
From Matt Schreiber on Mon, May 11, 2015 at 21:35:08 from 66.17.112.31

Humidity is a tough one to adjust to in my book. Good to see core making its way back onto the blog.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.750.000.000.0012.75

AM: Wissahickon Trails - 8.5 miles. HR 141.

PM: 4.25 miles. HR 148. A little bit faster than I've been running. 7:30 last mile like a rock star. Hoping to knock out a string of 6:30s in the morning.

Kinvara 5 Miles: 4.25Inov-8 Roclite 295 Miles: 8.50
Weight: 173.80
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.008.000.000.0015.00

AM/Lunch - Flourtown Tempo Loop - 15 miles, averaged 7:28. HR 156. Did an 8-mile AT tempo @ 6:30 pace

3.5 up, 8 miles steady, 3.5 down with a couple strides

6:37, 6:38, 6:30, 6:31, 6:26, 6:28, 6:23. HR 165-169, so basically right at the top of the zone and a bit high and working out of it at the end. Felt comparable to the range I usually do. Used my watch for the first few hundred meters then pretty much just let it autolap.

Weather in the low to mid 60s but low dew point and low humidty. Good workout for me today, but I generally do fine with aerobic stuff. The construction seems to be done on the loop for now, but they messed up my footing in places. Barstools!

 

Saucony A5 Miles: 15.00
Weight: 173.80
Comments
From Bret on Wed, May 13, 2015 at 14:11:24 from 216.234.133.229

Nice work - good consistency.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.250.000.000.0012.25

Lunch: 8 miles easy. HR 134. Stretching and Core.

PM: 4.25 miles easy. HR 135.

 

Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 4.25Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 8.00
Weight: 173.80
Comments
From Matt Schreiber on Thu, May 14, 2015 at 21:12:27 from 66.17.112.31

Heart rate is getting down there! (or you're logging walking miles.. ;) )

From Jason D on Thu, May 14, 2015 at 22:04:40 from 68.80.27.222

Haha. Some days I feel like I am walking. Getting more efficient. Or my shirt was throwing things off! When it's in the 120s for ~9:00 pace I'll be getting in decent shape. Ticker runs at ~165 for 6:35 pace right now.

I'd like to get that same HR for 6:00-6:10 this fall to run in the low 2:40s. That's a long way off though. Nice and easy most of the time. Weight would help. Having some trouble there but I've got a lot more lean muscle than normal. I think.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.250.000.000.005.25

Lunch - 5.25 miles. 6 x 200 on the track 38-40 to start, a couple 35s, the just under 34 while the richs kids threw frisbees around me. Felt good to get moving a little.

No real goals for tomorrow's race. Just run hard and see what happens. Legs have some miles in them but that's generally how I race 5ks.

Saucony A5 Miles: 5.25
Weight: 173.80
Comments
From SlowJoe on Fri, May 15, 2015 at 18:01:33 from 104.51.208.13

Sounds like you won't be walking or rolling. Good luck!

Race: Run, Walk, and Roll 5k (3.1 Miles) 00:17:33, Place overall: 7, Place in age division: 3
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.250.000.003.0013.25

AM: RUN, WALK, AND ROLL 5k in 17:34

3 up/2.25 down

Decent effort today. Getting my mileage back up, so I figured I would be slugglish. I wasn't too much. I drove about 40 minutes with my new running buddies. We got there in plenty of time to warm up. Scoped out the course, which was an out and back with some unfortunate turns onto and off from sidewalks but not terrible.

We warmed up 3 miles. Did some light stretching and strides. We got started RIGHT ON TIME. They yelled "go!" and I got jammed in to a bunch of the overzelous and underfit. Jonathan took off. Leo was in front of me but I caught up to him. Things thinned out from there. First mile was fine. Mile 2 was slow with the left-hand turn over the sidewalk and up a short grade. I was ahead of Leo but he came back and we ran together for a while. Hit the turn around and came back up a short grade on a path that caused me to start to fade. I picked it back up a bit after 2 miles (11:13 was the split I heard) but kind of coasted. Wasn't completely into it today but I didn't dog it either. Definitely warmer and more humid than the 5k we did a few weeks ago.

I'll get my faster legs and ability to hold sub-5:30 pace once I man up (to use a phrase I don't care for) and I get into some track workouts. I had a very good week of running this week and felt normal again. Plenty of time to get in a solid training block and run a big 10k PR on August 1. Just need to be patient.

5:32, 5:48, 5:42, 31.3

PM: Treadmill - 5 miles slow. HR 134. Core work and light stretching.

Decided to run next to Megan in the air conditioning. The humidity has come in and I didn't feel like making up a random route. I was somewhat confused when my watch starting autolapping (forgot to turn it off after the race), but it has built in accelerometer. It's pretty far off but I think the cadence is pretty close.

Saucony A6 Miles: 8.25Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 5.00
Weight: 173.80
Comments
From Rob Murphy on Sat, May 16, 2015 at 14:37:58 from 24.10.247.181

17:33!

I'm guessing you mostly ran and shunned the walking and rolling?

From Drew on Sat, May 16, 2015 at 21:41:47 from 24.92.19.68

Nice work on dropping a (good) 5k in the middle of a big week, Jason. It got me thinking about doing something similar.

From Jake K on Mon, May 18, 2015 at 06:25:07 from 98.202.128.218

Nice. In PR territory and feeling good overall - those are both excellent things.

From Bret on Mon, May 18, 2015 at 07:04:21 from 216.234.133.229

Well done Jason! Seems like you kept your attitude and attention to this at low key, which may have contributed to a solid/strong showing.

From Jason D on Mon, May 18, 2015 at 09:25:00 from 68.80.27.222

Thanks, everyone. This technically is a PR since I've only had a 5k come close to accurate once. The boys and I confirmed the course was pretty close with 3.09, 3.1, and 3.12. The race from a few weeks ago was roughly 12-14 seconds faster had the course been the correct distance.

Need to work on holding pace. I get nervous when I get below 5:40 and more so below 5:30. Still don't have too many miles below 5:40 in my training history. Working on it though.

From SlowJoe on Mon, May 18, 2015 at 11:35:37 from 12.182.148.249

Great result, good running. Ah, the "overzealous and underfit" crowd....a 5k staple! (of which I am probably part)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
16.000.000.000.0016.00

PM: 16 miles slow. HR 148.

Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 16.00
Weight: 175.10
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
13.250.000.000.0013.25

AM: Wiss Trails - 8.5 miles at gentlemanly trail runner pace. HR 135.

PM: Treadmill - 5 miles. Strides and hill blasts. Stretching.

Mizuno Musha Miles: 5.00Inov-8 Roclite 295 Miles: 8.25
Weight: 173.50
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.000.003.000.0010.00

AM: Off

PM: Track Tuesday - 10 miles. 4.3 up, 6 x 800 w/ 75-80 seconds rest, 2.7 down

Took the morning off to make sure I got some writing in and to get on top of my hydration. I drink water all the time but the last few days I have had some dull headaches, which seem to be caused my dehydration (or tension perhaps)

It was 85 degrees when I left just before 6. Humidity in the 50% range. Warmed up about 1.5 and saw Leo so I started chasing him. We warmed up about 3 for him and 4.3 total for me, which is more of a "February warm up" but I felt like I needed it. Jonathan planned 8 x 800 of 60 seconds rest, which sounded nuts (assuming 5k pace) so we settled on at least 6 x 800 with 75 seconds rest and I figured 2:45 or faster was good for me.

Leo and I ran together and did: 2:43.5, 2:46.2, 2:43.6, 2:44.8, 2:45.1, 2:45.8

Jonathan ended up running 7 at 77 seconds per quarter. I was happy with what we did. I've never run 800s that fast and definitely not in that heat off shorter rest (I usually jog 2 minute recoveries).

Saucony A5 Miles: 10.00
Weight: 174.70
Comments
From SlowJoe on Wed, May 20, 2015 at 08:21:18 from 12.182.148.249

Good one Jason. It's all I can do to just plod around when it's hot outside!

From RileyCook on Wed, May 20, 2015 at 08:48:10 from 172.56.38.113

Very nice workout!

From jtshad on Wed, May 20, 2015 at 08:52:37 from 141.221.191.225

Great workout!

From Jason D on Wed, May 20, 2015 at 09:47:25 from 68.80.27.222

The humidity was under 60%, Joe, which helped. Track workouts aren't bad when it is hot if you don't try to smoke the workout.

We found a good effort and kept it there. The first one felt about as comfortable as a mile repeat. They got harder . . . I dislike standing rest for pretty much all workouts but I am going with what they have planned so I have people to hang out with.

From Drew on Wed, May 20, 2015 at 16:28:28 from 24.92.19.68

Having people to run with is worth some compromises. My coach has a lot of simple sayings that resonate with me - in this case- "Runners run better with other runners."

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
14.500.000.000.0014.50

AM: 8.5 miles. HR 138. Stretching and core.

PM: 6 miles. HR 133.

Lots of critters in the woods. I told a goose to "keep your kids out of the road." She challenged me bit, so I told her "it's cool. I'm leaving."

Kinvara 5 Miles: 6.00Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 8.50
Weight: 173.50
Comments
From SlowJoe on Thu, May 21, 2015 at 18:31:47 from 104.51.208.13

Geese are so smug and confrontational.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.000.000.000.000.00

Day off. 29 days on. Megan and I are headed to Toledo to see her family. Probably long singles where and when I can fit them in. I've marked out a tempo loop in my in-laws' neighborhood (we usually stay with her uncle).

I found some track races at one of the local high schools. Looking at two 5000s and one 1 miler. I'm beyond excited. I'm sure in the heat and during the race it won't seem like such a good idea.

Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Jake K on Thu, May 21, 2015 at 14:47:58 from 199.190.170.24

That's cool. And maybe you'll get a cool night or two for a 5000. Running the mile when it's hot out isn't bad.

You wont even have to wear a watch... have Megan call out splits!

From Jason D on Thu, May 21, 2015 at 15:24:04 from 166.137.244.17

I looked into one you sent me but they had no 5000. This looks less complicated but I hope for $10 an event (which is still okay) it's decently organized. I think the course will be accurate at least :-)

How are you doing?

From Jake K on Thu, May 21, 2015 at 15:31:38 from 199.190.170.24

In theory you should be able to have a decently organized track meet for $10, which is well worth it in my book.

I am doing excellently. Busy with work (in a very good way), and getting less injured.

From Jason D on Thu, May 21, 2015 at 18:20:04 from 166.137.244.17

$10 is fine with me. Better than a $25 road race where I might run off course.

Good to hear things are going well. Been meaning to ask but I never know if it's more annoying than appreciated.

From Jake K on Thu, May 21, 2015 at 20:11:57 from 98.202.128.218

From you, not annoying and appreciated.

I should jot down some more detailed thoughts about what I've been up to at some point but I've become content just posting photos from time to time :-) Some say they are worth a thousand words, but a writer like yourself may disagree.

From Jason D on Thu, May 21, 2015 at 21:00:14 from 166.137.244.17

Images are great too. The Utah landscape is incredible. I've been slightly obsessed with Abandoned America photos lately. Different than beautiful landscapes but I'm drawn to them.

From Jake K on Fri, May 22, 2015 at 08:53:09 from 199.190.170.24

That's a cool site. Bookmarked!

From Jason D on Fri, Jun 05, 2015 at 19:32:43 from 68.80.27.222

Can I run in spikes for the track events or is that just completely unnecessary for someone of my ability? My A5s are almost toast and I don't have anything I like that has the same grip on the track.

From Jake K on Fri, Jun 05, 2015 at 21:02:41 from 70.208.12.116

Absolutely wear spikes.

But try to get in at least some 200s or 400s in them first.

From Jason D on Fri, Jun 05, 2015 at 21:39:33 from 68.80.27.222

That was my plan, either after the track or on an easy day. My friend Brandon said for a 5k my calves would be sore, but I've been wearing zero drops for everything from the mile to marathon for a while now. Not the exact same but still.

Thanks for the help.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.008.000.000.0014.00

Brandywine Tempo Loop - 14 miles, averaged 7:32. HR 156

Broke in a new loop about a 1/2 mile from Megan's parents'. I want to bring it home. It's better than mine. About 1.1 for the loop. I got the rhythm of it quickly. 

4 miles @ ~9:30 with Megan

8 miles @ just under 6:22

6:24, 6:27, 6:25, 6:25, 6:25, 6:22, 6:19, 6:08

2 miles easy


HR was a bit outside of high marathon pace, but my legs weren't accumulating any lactic acid yet and I could have pushed had I been asked to. Splits were 171-173 BPM, which is supposedly low LT but it doesn't feel like it. My HR didn't really change much from 6:25 down to 6:08 (171 versus 173).

Pleased with the workout. Ate crap yesterday and had too many beers. Focusing on being (more or less good) even though it is vacation.

Saucony A5 Miles: 14.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Derunzo on Fri, May 22, 2015 at 13:22:50 from 173.9.52.242

Nice tempo. I love beers.

From Jason D on Sat, May 23, 2015 at 13:47:01 from 75.48.209.157

So do I!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.000.000.000.0010.00

10 miles easy. 3 with Megan. HR 135.

Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 10.00
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.000.000.000.0010.00

Farnsworth - 10 miles. 3 w/ Megan who did about 5. Did some strides. HR 146.

Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 10.00
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.250.004.000.0010.25

AM: Brandywine Tempo Loop - 10.25 miles, averaged 7:45. HR 162.

4 up, 4 mile cutdown, 2.25 down with hard strides

Planned to go 6 but I needed to start slower and cut down more incrementally toward the end. Plan was to get into the 5:40s but I didn't and that's okay. I got what I needed today. It was about 80 and more humid than it was been. It was also very windy. 20-25 MPH.

6:16, 6:08, 6:05, 5:52

HR was 173 for the first mile then 181-185 for the last 3. Called it for 4 on mile 3, got out of the wind and finished mile 4 hard but without killing myself. Collected myself for a few seconds then jogged half a mile before doing some hard strides. 

My fitness is coming along nicely. Consistency and patience.

Light core and stretching after.

Saucony A5 Miles: 10.25
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Matt Schreiber on Mon, May 25, 2015 at 13:34:20 from 66.17.112.31

That's a lot of wind to be running that kind of pace in. Nice work Jason.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.000.000.000.0010.00

Sidecut - 10 miles. 4 with Megan. HR 149. HR a bit elevated. I blame the humidity. It felt easy and I was running on flat dirt around 9:00-9:40 and that's about as slow as I know how to run. The park was nice but not really marked well, but I made it work. I'll probably head back to Farnsworth tomorrow and get in a workout the day after.

Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 10.00
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.300.000.000.005.30

PM: Oak Openings - 5.3 miles w/ Megan. HR 139.

A bit tired. Didn't feel like another loop. More confusing trails. Very nice though. Workout tomorrow.

Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 5.30
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.500.000.003.5010.00

Brandywine Tempo Loop - 10 miles, averaged 8:01 w/ 3 hard miles broken up. HR 163.

Did 3 x 1 mile hard with slow quarter mile jogs . Followed that with a 5 minute jog, then 2 x 400 hard with equal recovery. Goal was to get under 5:40 pace to shock the system and stress the lungs. I want to run sub-35 in the 10k in ~9 weeks and it's going to take some unpleasant workouts to do that. My goal was to run 4 x 1 mile then 4 x 400 but I stayed up late with my wife and her uncle having drinks. Today was plenty to start. I paid for my sins today. Sunny and warm. Felt warmer than 73.

5:34 (182), 5:32 (184), 5:34 (185), 74, 78 (turns)

Saucony A5 Miles: 10.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Drew on Thu, May 28, 2015 at 13:06:35 from 24.73.66.122

Nice running, Jason.

I kind of like the ideas in this article, if you haven't seen it: https://www.mcmillanrunning.com/articlePages/article/39

I've never made it all the way through that plan, though.

From Jason D on Thu, May 28, 2015 at 15:56:50 from 166.137.12.107

That's more or less what I am doing. Thanks for posting though.

I did this today as a low stakes transitioning workout to build on as I have quite a bit of time. I don't like the longer rest but given the effort it is necessary. I think I might run my usual mile repeats too conservatively.

From Matt Schreiber on Thu, May 28, 2015 at 22:29:01 from 66.17.112.31

Unpleasant workouts.. I love it. Time to get comfortable, feeling uncomfortable.

From SlowJoe on Fri, May 29, 2015 at 17:47:50 from 104.51.208.13

Yyyyep those are fast, and I'm guessing quite unpleasant. Nice work!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
11.000.000.000.0011.00

Farnsworth - 11 miles. 3.25 with Megan before she turned around. HR 148.

Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 11.00
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.000.000.000.0010.00

PM: 10 miles. HR 148. Did some strides. Megan and I visited some friends in Ann Arbor and we had beer and brats for lunch. Not the best pre-run meal, but better than not running. Decent week off of singles since I've been in Ohio and three solid workouts. Back to 85+ next week and my routine.

Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 10.00
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
1.257.750.000.009.00

Late: 9 miles in 62:20 on the treadmill. 1 mile warm up, then 52 minutes @ 9 MPH

Drove 8-9 hours from Toledo, unpacked, and it was still warm and muggy outside and I didn't feel like a slog so I did an solid aerobic effort on the treadmill. I didn't start my watch until mile 4 because I was half asleep but it was AT+ effort. Felt strong though. I was going to do the Roblek but I forgot the exact steps, so I kept it simple.

Saucony A5 Miles: 9.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Rob Murphy on Sun, May 31, 2015 at 19:53:19 from 24.10.247.181

Good thinking all-around on the workout.

I know it's probably always hard to leave Toledo.

From Jason D on Sun, May 31, 2015 at 20:05:05 from 68.80.27.222

It's no Philadelphia but it's not so bad. My only complaint is that it's too flat. Strava doesn't credit me for my 50 total feet of gain. I often run 500-700 feet on my 8-10 mile runs here.

From Rob Murphy on Sun, May 31, 2015 at 20:12:23 from 24.10.247.181

That could be their new slogan - "Toledo…It's not so bad".

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.250.000.000.0010.25

Noon: 10.25 miles. HR 146.

Didn't get back out as planned but 10 on the morning is fine. Core and stretching to do after dinner. A fella from Indiana I follow on Strava post this pic. I thought my 300+ feet per mile trail running was hard core. He basically climbed the equivalent of the new World Trade Center in one mile of the first 3.

 

Late: Core and stretching.

Kinvara 5 Miles: 10.25
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.000.000.003.0015.00

Lunch: 5 miles. HR 142. Cool and rainy. Great day for an evening track workout.

PM: Track Tuesday - 10 miles total. 4 up, some strides, then 3 x 1600 hard with 2 min rest, then 3 mile cool down.

My pacing wasn't great and I fell asleep in the last rep but I ran pretty hard. It helped to have cool air and light rain. Rest might have been too long, but close enough.

5:22, 5:26, 5:28

I felt like a million bucks on the first one, and felt that the rest was far too long for standing but it got harder. Legs were pretty loaded 300 meters into the third rep and slowed a bit somewhere in there, but picked it up the last 200 (or so I think).

Saucony A5 Miles: 10.00Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 5.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Jake K on Wed, Jun 03, 2015 at 12:04:37 from 199.190.170.30

Nice man. Pretty quick. Have you ever done 3 x mile at that fast of an average before?

From Jason D on Wed, Jun 03, 2015 at 12:26:35 from 68.80.27.222

No. This is definitely the fastest. I am pretty sure I've only ever run perhaps 5-6 miles under 5:30 pace. And I wonder why I can't go out and run 3.1 miles worth of them!

This was about ~5 seconds average overall faster than on the roads 4 or 5 days ago. I can run fast, but I'm lazy :-)

I've done 4 x 1 mile with 90 seconds rest @ 5:30 average but that was with a Garmin on a half mile loop, which likely skewed them some.

From Jake K on Wed, Jun 03, 2015 at 12:32:04 from 199.190.170.30

Some more workouts like this, and you will be able to.

It's good to do something this hard on the track... then you don't have to wonder if your watch was just having a good day... it was all you :-)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
13.000.000.000.0013.00

Noon: 13 miles. HR 141.

Late: Core and stretching.

Newton Gravity III Miles: 13.00
Weight: 173.40
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.000.000.000.0012.00

AM: Cresheim Trails + Wiss Trails - 7 miles. HR 143. Stretching and core.

Charged a few hills, otherwise kept it very easy.

PM: 5 miles with Megan. HR 132.

Kinvara 5 Miles: 5.00Inov-8 Roclite 295 Miles: 7.00Miles With Megan Miles: 5.00
Weight: 173.40
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
9.000.000.000.009.00

PM: 9 miles. HR 151. Did some strides. Stretching and core.

I find it not super comfortable to run much over 145 HR for a good portion of runs, so I think I will stick with slogging because it is enjoyable. I'll let my workouts take care of the rest.

Crappy run today. Just not there mentally. Too much stress. Thanksfully running is going very well the last two weeks.

Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 9.00
Weight: 173.10
Race: Wissahickon Trail Classic 10k (6.2 Miles) 00:45:33, Place overall: 18
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.250.006.250.0013.50

AM: Wissahickon Trail Classic - 13.5 miles total

This race is in Wissahickon Valley Park where I run pretty much every day. There's a 5+ mile stretch of dirt road called Forbidden Drive at the base of a steep ravine. The trails traverse back and forth through the hills and connect back to Forbidden Drive in various places. The trails are rocky and very steep in places.

4.25 miles warmup mostly on the trails. Did some strides. I knew I had to go out hard to not get behind a bunch of people, so I got out hard but settled down a bit before the steep hill. I spent the race getting passed going up the hills and blowing by people on the downhills. The last two miles were tough mentally because I just didn't think I had anything left (in trail running you generally have a lot more left assuming the distance is short. Muscle fatigue doesn't correspond to breathing in the same way as on the roads, and so on). Should have pushed harder to get under 45 minutes. Still learning trail effort.

I got passed by a guy in Vibrams with about 1.25 to go. Okay, finger feet, let's see if your stones are as big as the ones on this last downhill! I passed him again and worked the downhills pretty hard and tried to finish hard but it looks like I took too long to rev up after the last sharp turn.

800+ feet of gain

Cooled down 3 miles for another 300+ feet

PM: ?

Salomon SL Sense Ultra Miles: 13.50
Weight: 170.90
Comments
From Bam on Sat, Jun 06, 2015 at 15:43:16 from 89.126.28.24

Psst: if you want a full-time position at that rather strange sounding education establishment, fix the typo;)

What's the goal for the Philadelphia Marathon?

From Jason D on Sat, Jun 06, 2015 at 15:54:10 from 68.80.27.222

I didn't even proofread . . . shame on me. Now I have to find it.

Philadelphia is a long, long way off, but I would say a PR, but really something under 2:45, low 2:40s. Maybe sub-2:40 :-) That's probably ambitious enough for right now. We will see what I can do to bring down my 5k/10 times and how fall training goes, lack of injuries, continued consistency.

I'd be even more ambitious but I don't want to get injured. I can't take that at the best of times and these aren't the best of times. They aren't the worst either I suppose.

With all those qualifications in mind, sub-2:43 or the Women's OT Standard :-)

From Bam on Sat, Jun 06, 2015 at 16:19:16 from 89.126.28.24

The clue is in the clue;)

A tale of too many cities often leaves one chasing one's tail when it comes to the best times and the worst times. For sure, don't get dizzy and end up injured.

2:43 - yep, eminently doable for a man of your talents.

From Rob Murphy on Sun, Jun 07, 2015 at 12:46:53 from 24.10.247.181

All your observations are accurate. Congrats on that.

Trails and roads - different animals.

From Jake K on Mon, Jun 08, 2015 at 10:56:12 from 199.190.170.30

You did beat the Vibram guy, right?

From SlowJoe on Mon, Jun 08, 2015 at 11:16:17 from 12.182.148.249

I was curious about that too. If I were you, I would just answer "yes."

From Jason D on Mon, Jun 08, 2015 at 11:48:31 from 68.80.27.222

I did. I had some downhills that he couldn't match. I did get chicked several times by the same lady who won the women's. I passed her initially in the meadows at the top of the first hill, bombed the downhill, then she would catch me on the uphills, rinse and repeat.

As it turns out she the Penn record holder in the steeple chase. I am not sure where she stands as runner overall, but she's in good shape.

Looks like I have her in the mile, half marathon, and marathon. She's got me in the 5k though. Looks like she ran 58:33 for 10 miles in early March, so she was a minute ahead of what I was a month ago.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
16.600.000.000.0016.60

PM: 16.6 miles. HR 152.

Tired, but overall not too bad. Pretty low on calories toward the end. Stopped at the Valley Green fountain around mile 11.5 and slugged some water. I felt much better after that.

Upper 70s, dry, and breezy.

Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 16.60
Weight: 172.40
Comments
From Matt Schreiber on Sun, Jun 07, 2015 at 21:04:58 from 66.17.112.31

I'm always amazed at how a little water will get you going again. Good stuff!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.500.000.000.0012.50

Noon: 8.25 miles. HR 141.

PM: 4.25 miles. HR 152. Did some strides.

Biffed it on the concrete. It's been too long since I last did that so I guess it was time.

Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 8.25Nike Zoom Streak LT2 Miles: 4.25
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
11.100.000.003.0014.10

AM: 4.5 miles. HR 151. Stretching and core.

I managed to trip coming of the sidewalk and land on the exact same spots on my body as yesterday. A woman asked if I was okay. Sure, I do this all the time.

PM: Track Tuesday - 9.6 miles. 3.6 up/2.5 down w/ 4 x 1000 and 4 x 200.

Leo is racing this weekend, so he wanted something abbreviated (4 x 1000). I figured 5 x 1000, then maybe 6 x 200 very hard. I did 4 x 1000, then a few 200s while the guys were cooling down.

We got out fast, too fast for the weather and I just hung on the whole workout, feeling pretty crappy, and fading back on the last interval from Leo (Jonathan was way ahead today).

My legs were a little weak earlier. Probably not enough calories. I feel really crappy right now (stomach, head is cloudy). Only one recovery day in the last 4, so that might be part of my problem.

4 x 1000 with 200 jogs: 3:21.5, 3:28.1, 3:31.1, 3:30.6 (Upper 3:20s would have been sensible. Need to run my own paces in the future).

3 minutes rest

4 x 200 with 200 jogs: 33.6, 34.4, 33.7, 33.6 (these were pretty good, even though my legs start to go jello in the last few meters)

Kinvara 5 Miles: 4.50Nike Zoom Streak LT2 Miles: 9.60
Weight: 174.00
Comments
From allie on Tue, Jun 09, 2015 at 10:55:49 from 24.99.46.55

ahh, two in a row?! and a witness?! sorry.

From SlowJoe on Tue, Jun 09, 2015 at 17:34:49 from 104.51.208.13

Time to start running in elbow pads, knee pads, helmet and pocket protector (the last one is just for cool points).

From Rob Murphy on Tue, Jun 09, 2015 at 18:59:51 from 75.105.161.166

Andy trips a lot when we're just walking around the block. He blames the "sidewalk gremlins".

From Jason D on Tue, Jun 09, 2015 at 22:07:27 from 68.80.27.222

I can probably just buy one set off knee pads and use one as a elbow pad. I always fall on my right side. Sidewalk gremlins is a good way to describe it. On the trails I know the culprit. On flat ground I can only guess magic or gremlins. This particular gremlin twisted by left big toe. Or hit it with a hammer. Luckily it's not broken. Felt fine on the track tonight.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.500.000.000.008.50

Lunch: 8.5 miles. HR 149. Stretching and core.

PM: Off. Rest and rehydration. Megan and I are going to the Lion King, a Broadway-style musical. I got her tickets for her birthday.

Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 8.50
Weight: 173.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.750.000.000.0012.75

Lunch: 6.5 miles trails/roads. Did a few strides and 6 hill sprints to work on my strength for B2B. About 10 seconds each for now. I'll increase the length and number each week.

85-88 and the temp is climing. I guess it's that time of year, but getting in workouts is near impossible for me. Scheduled for 6 x 1 mile at 10k pace tomorrow but the low is 72 (and I won't get out early). Just got to push I guesss.

PM: 6.25 miles. HR 152. Just under 9:00 pace and it felt fairly moderate. It was 91 with a dew point of 69 but low humidity strangely and a decent breeze. I was going to drive to the track and do some 200s to test my spikes but I got plenty of work in today.

Mizuno Musha Miles: 6.25Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 6.50
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From allie on Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:37:29 from 24.99.46.55

i cannot get used to the lack of overnight cool down/air refreshment -- utah is so good at that, even in the middle of summer.

i think i have ATL figured out now: 6am morning soup, 12pm searing sun, 6pm afternoon soup and risk of t-storm death. repeat.

good luck with your workout tomorrow. my schedule says 800s/400s and i'm trying not to think about it.

From Jason D on Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:44:00 from 68.80.27.222

Part of the problem is the need to lower expectations, which sounds so strange and wimpy but I remember being very frustrated last summer and not getting though workouts.

I just checked your weather, which is fairly similar to here. Right now at least.

What's the workout? I'm always shopping around for ideas.

From allie on Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 12:49:12 from 24.99.46.55

yes, i'm learning that. i was pretty frustrated with my 1200s last week, but the effort was there even though i'm not hitting times i expect.

workout is 4 x (800/200jog; 400/200jog)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.000.004.000.0012.00

Lunch: 8 miles on the treadmill w/ 4 x 1 mile w/ slow quarter mile jogs. Strides cooling down. 5:55 (172), 5:59 (174), 6:03 (176), 5:55 (177)

+ Stretching and core

It was 85 degrees with 67% humidity and 72 dew point outside. Disastrous workout weather. No thank you. I'm either too weak or too smart. Didn't get through all of what I wanted to but I'm falling off a bit this week. Too much stress. Trying to figure out where my mileage should be. I don't feel like I'm getting anywhere and I am basically getting my butt kicked in workouts by people who run 50-60 miles a week.

PM: 4 miles. Probably the fastest afternoon run in a while. Had to squeak in the miles: "Out the door, no less than 4!" Still pretty warm but I got a nice downpour. It's been a while.

Newton Gravity LE Miles: 4.00Nike Zoom Streak LT2 Miles: 8.00
Weight: 173.40
Comments
From Drew on Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 04:47:02 from 173.171.218.92

Jason, everything you wrote sounds familiar. I'm thinking you were too smart yesterday.

I do believe there are times in training, especially during the summer, when you just can't see the results. But they do show up, and then it seems like you jumped to a new level out of nowhere.

From Jason D on Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 10:45:43 from 68.80.27.222

Thanks. I also need to remember that I can't do the same workouts either. 6 x 1 mile isn't a crushing session in the fall (I do it quite often). I need to start slower and work down, need to get up earlier, and so on.

I appreciated your post on your track workout this week. You started slower, but then you finished really fast. I went far too fast and got in a hole and didn't get through everything I wanted to. I'll try to work into it a bit next Tuesday.

I struggled last summer with workouts, but I was expecting too much. I then had a glorious fall and didn't miss and ran a good marathon.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.000.000.000.005.00

PM: 5 miles. 4 w/ Megan.

+ Stretching and core

Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 5.00Miles With Megan Miles: 4.00
Weight: 0.00
Race: Oy Vey 5k (3.107 Miles) 00:17:58, Place overall: 2, Place in age division: 1
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.000.003.000.0013.00

AM: 9 miles. Oy Vey 5k in 17:58. Oy Vey, it was hot.

My running buddy asked if I wanted to a 5k today, so I decided last night I would do this in place of a long run. It ended up being warmer than I expected and I tanked pretty hard, but pretty much everyone did.

3 mile warm up with the guys. A few strides. I started out somewhat slow, working into the pace and trying not to kill any kids who jumped out in front. Settled into my pace and broke away from Leo, keeping Jonathan somewhat in sight and picking off some young guns. First mile was 5:23 and I felt great. I was sure I would break 17 despite the heat and on a certified course. I still felt good but started to slow some but always felt like I had another gear if necessary. Mile 2 was 5:43. 11 and change for the 2 mile split. I figured if I could maintain my average pace I could pour it on into the finish. Then I just tanked. Bad. I felt like I couldn't move my legs.

Leo came back and another guy (who was running the 10k) were just behind me. Leo passed me, but in the final minute and a half I dropped from 5:15 pace to 4:45 still feeling like I had another gear if necessary. Mile 3 was 6:10.

A very strange race. Not quite sure what to make of it other than it was hot and affected everyone and I was dehydrated.

Splits/HR: 5:23 (155?), 5:43 (182), 6:10 (182), 41 (185). Average HR was 174, which seems quite low. I've had workouts where I ran continuous miles with a similar heart rate. It took about 5 minutes to get into the upper 170s and to 180.

On to the next one. Lots of racing leading into B2B (one per week), so hopefully that gets me tough and ready.

 

PM: Treadmill - 4 miles. HR 133. Some light stretching and the usual pushups before and after.

Mizuno Musha Miles: 4.00Nike Zoom Streak LT2 Miles: 9.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From SlowJoe on Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 14:29:22 from 45.18.50.53

Yeah, that sounds like the heat...everything clicking along fine then your legs turn to goo.

That is definitely a busy racing schedule!

From steve ash on Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 16:44:30 from 67.2.66.39

Sounds like a good race especially when you factor in the heat and humidity.. I always get mixed results with events done in the heat.

From steve ash on Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 16:45:09 from 67.2.66.39

My best marathon was in 70 plus degree weather go figure..

From Rob Murphy on Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 17:09:29 from 24.10.247.181

It only gets a little better than second place.

From Bret on Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 08:18:01 from 216.234.133.229

I wouldn't dwell on the time or the "tanking" too much (doesn't seem like you are) - the heat and humidity clearly impact race times. Your racing performance is what you should focus on when conditions are poor. As Rob said, only gets a little better than 2nd place. Well done!

From jtshad on Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 13:18:58 from 141.221.191.225

Strong race. Keep up the training/racing and B2B will be great.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.000.000.000.0012.00

Lunch: 7 miles. HR 142.

+ Stretching and core.

PM: 5 miles. HR 142. Soupy.

Newton Gravity III Miles: 7.00Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 5.00
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.500.000.003.5014.00

AM: 4 miles. HR 139. Super soupy.

PM: Track - 10 miles.

3.6 up/2 down. I copied Allie this week and did 4 (800/400). After the workout, I changed into my spikes and did 4 x 200 hard. Good workout. Weather was better later, but windy. Still warm but less soupy and we were gifted with some showers and a rainbow.

2:45.2, 2:48.2, 2:47.8, 2:47.9

79.9, 80.7, 80.4, 78.7 (I think I got a bit too complacent on these. They should have all been ~78)

30.9, ~31-32?, 32.5, 32.5 (I walked the first 200 with Leo, stopped my watch, started it before the rep and forgot to hit "lap" so I missed the correct time of lap 2 but he was pretty much the same distance behind me with a similar split to the previous one. I jogged 200 for the others).

Overall, a good workout. Not fast but warm, recovering from Sunday, and so on. I was pleased with my 200s. My first time in spikes. I know that's not fast for a lot of people but those are definitely the fastest ones I have ever run. The spikes make a difference.

Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 4.00Nike Zoom Streak LT2 Miles: 9.25Nike Victory Spikes Miles: 0.75
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From allie on Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 23:56:08 from 70.158.101.161

so very soupy.

nice job with the workout. fun, right? :) now i want to copy you and do 200s in spikes...but...that would mean taking time to screw in spikes, and i'm not sure i have enough energy in this soup.

From Jason D on Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 11:22:13 from 68.80.27.222

Definitely harder than I thought, but it's a really good one.

I had mine pre-screwed. I carried them in the spike bag during part of my warmup, hoping I didn't fall and stab myself.

From SlowJoe on Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 17:45:43 from 45.18.50.53

Spikes - look at you! Nice workout, you're getting in some fast stuff lately.

From Jason D on Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 20:59:06 from 68.80.27.222

My former running buddy said I probably didn't need them for anything longer than the 1500, that I would be sore in the calves, and so on. I got a second opinion and went with them. I was glad for that. I really wanted to look cool and fast :-)

They are fun even though I felt like the old guy at the track while a younger guy was doing 400s in spikes. I was surprised by the stiffness of them, which is the point. I am pretty used to zero drop shoes but they are about 2 ounces per shoe lighter than any of my flats and they are extremely responsive. The spikes really dig. Luckily I made it through my first session without spiking myself, which I have done several times with my screw flats (ouch!).

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.000.000.000.0012.00

AM: Walked about 4-5 miles. I met up with someone for whom I am dog sitting. She showed me the pup's usual route. Turns out there are some trails through the golf course (which I knew) that are for dog walking. They would be great for cross country practice if I did that sort of running.

Lunch - Trails - 7 miles SLOW. HR 133. Legs are pretty spanked. Not sore, just really really heavy.

+ Stretching and core

PM: 5 miles. HR 134.

Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 7.00Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 5.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Rob Murphy on Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 18:59:49 from 24.10.247.181

Ahhh…walking! A far more civilized endeavor than running in my opinion.

From Jason D on Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 20:34:16 from 68.80.27.222

Indeed! I don't do enough of it and I've got the time right now. My easy running lately hasn't been much more than a brisk walk, especially on the trails, but I enjoy it more.

I was jogging this afternoon and was treated to a gent doing multiple back handsprings on his lawn. You miss those sort of of things if you are too focused and zipping by.

From Matt Schreiber on Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 21:20:34 from 66.17.112.31

I see young girls doing these once in a while when I'm out, but a full grown man?! That's impressive.

From Jason D on Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 22:23:03 from 68.80.27.222

He was maybe in his early teens. Young, in any event. Thought he might have been doing break dancing moves when I saw him out of the corner of my eye.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
14.000.000.000.0014.00

Lunch - 9 miles. HR 143. Strides in the middle. 10 x 10 second hill sprints at the end.

(I got an extra mile for the hill sprints and recoveries so I am counting the mile. I need to find a longer hill but no other options present themselves that are safe. Might have to go a bit farther)

PM: 5 miles. HR 139.

Newton Gravity LE Miles: 9.00Kinvara 2 White/Blue Miles: 5.00
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.750.002.250.0010.00

AM: Flourtown Tempo Loop 10 miles. HR 152. Strides at the end. Pulled workout.

Planned to do mile repeats, as many as I could do, up to 7. I thought I had a weather window but it didn't come or I missed it. I figured I would start much slower than planned (6:00 rather than 5:45), but it was just too much in the weather and I pulled the plug about 1/5 mile into the third repeat.

I could tell it wasn't working when my recovery jogs were in the 11-12 minute range. My heart rate was pretty low, but the perceived effort and focus was a mess. They are back working on the loop so I had to shift from the sidewalk to the road and that just doesn't work.

6:04 (169), 6:01 (172)

Might have to adjust my schedule and do some high aerobic progession runs on the treadmill for my Friday workouts if the weather is going to continue. I just can't get any longer efforts in.

I was going to come home and hit the track for 4 x 400 very hard but there just wasn't time.

PM: Off. Travel to Erie, PA for a wedding.

Nike Zoom Streak LT2 Miles: 10.00
Weight: 173.30
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.000.000.000.000.00

Day off. 29 days on. I was planning to take tomorrow off, but getting up late, the timing of the wedding, and looking for a place to run made today a better option. A few miles tomorrow hopefully but it's our anniversary and we are driving 6 hours home, so we will see.

Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.000.000.000.000.00

Day off. Two days in a row generally only happens two or three times a year. Our one year anniversary and some travel time. A nice evening. 

Supposed to be in the mid-90s for the mile on Tuesday. At least it's not a marathon.

Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.000.000.000.7512.75

AM: 8.25 miles. HR 153.

+ Core and stretching.

My parents are coming, which is great but it always makes me anxious (mostly just annoying parents stuff). Mom and Dad aren't city people and even the relatively suburban neighborhood of Chestnut Hill will likely be quite different to them.

PM: 4.5 miles w/ sharpening workout on the track

2 x 400, then 2 x 200 all with equal recovery

67.7, 72.6, 33.3, 33.1

The first one didn't feel that fast, but it is far too fast for me to run that as mile pace. The second one was more relaxed and closer. Did the 200s "sensibly hard," meaning I ran them hard but I didn't stomp on the. Right around 90 degrees and quite breezy.

Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 3.00Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 8.25Nike Victory Spikes Miles: 1.50
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Drew on Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 13:49:01 from 173.171.218.92

I'm chuckling at the parents stuff because it sounds familiar. My parents lived in a nice suburb of LA their whole lives. They visited me when I lived in Center City and it was an anxious experience for all involved.

From Jake K on Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 16:11:45 from 199.190.170.24

Good luck tomorrow. Resist the urge to do much more than a short (VERY SHORT) shake out in the morning. Save the legs, especially since it will be hot out.

From Jason D on Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 16:50:21 from 68.80.27.222

My parents live in a small Maine town of ~2000, Drew. Anything around 60,000 plus is a big city.

Jake:

Last year I did 3 miles about 8:45 the morning on the road mile. I was going to do 4 tomorrow but maybe I'll stick with 2-3, or go by feel. 3 miles lately takes me 27+ minutes so that's probably good. There's some dry air right now and it might make a difference. The road mile last year was 77 and very dry. Not bad actually. Time will tell.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.000.003.000.0010.00

AM: 2.5 mile pre-race shakeout. HR 143. Gross outside.

+ Stretching

PM: Treadmill Workout - 7.5 miles (164 HR) w/ 3 x 1 mile @ 5:36 (1.5%)

The meet was cancelled due to severe storms. I was going to time trial the mile at Springside Academy but it was 90 degrees and windy and Dad wanted to do some things (in addition to driving me insane). The storm rolled through just as I was going out to run. Made it work for today on the treadmill. I wanted to see what the HR would do. I still have one more meet in which I can run the mile, so I will likely do that in two weeks.

2 mile warm up, 3 x 1 mile, 2 mile cool down with strides

Rep 1 HR 173, Rep 2 HR 178, Rep 2 182

Kinvara 2 White/Blue Miles: 2.50Nike Zoom Streak LT2 Miles: 7.50
Weight: 173.00
Comments
From allie on Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 18:41:14 from 24.99.46.55

bummer about the meet cancellation. that has happened with a few atlanta meets as well. for some reason tuesday night seems to be storm night.

nice alternative workout. have fun with your dad. :)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.000.000.000.0012.00

AM: Trails - 7 miles slow. HR 142.

PM: 5 miles with Megan. HR 136. Hot and dry. Lovely.

Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 7.00Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 5.00Miles With Megan Miles: 5.00
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
13.000.000.000.0013.00

AM: 8 miles.

PM: 5 miles. HR 149. Did some strides.

+ Rolling, stretching, and core

Kinvara 2 White/Blue Miles: 5.00Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 8.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Rob Murphy on Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 17:38:20 from 24.10.247.181

Nice job with the strides. They're important.

From Jason D on Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 19:32:18 from 68.80.27.222

I try to get them in three times a week, but I don't always. I've started doing them after workouts here and there as well.

I did 200s last fall pretty much right up to my marathon and they really kept me from feeling stale.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
14.800.000.000.0014.80

Lunch - 10.8 miles. Blown workout. Finished with 9 x 10 second hill sprints

Tried to run on a new tempo loop, which was 4 miles away. Knew I was in the area, started a 4-5 mile tempo, then stopped because I hit a dead end and wasn't sure how to reroute. I jogged for a while, figured it out, then started again at 5 miles. Got the right one but with about 100 meters to go in the first mile I just stopped.

The weather was somewhat warm but decent compared to what it's been. I think it's a mental issue right now. I haven't had many good workouts or races since the beginning of the year and my head just isn't in. I have some decent days but a lot of pulled plugs.

I got to 10 miles then did 9 x 10 second hill sprints to at least make something of the first run of the day.

+ Stretching and core

PM: 4 miles with Megan. HR 129. Very pleasant run.

Kinvara 2 White/Blue Miles: 4.00Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 10.80Miles With Megan Miles: 4.00
Weight: 172.00
Comments
From SlowJoe on Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 18:07:37 from 45.18.50.53

This time of the year is peak Workout Fail season. For some reason it gets better in July and August, even though it's hotter. Maybe we all lower our expectations.

From Rob Murphy on Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 18:10:32 from 24.10.247.181

It's the dog days of summer. Don't fight the ebb and flow too hard.

From Jason D on Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 19:34:02 from 68.80.27.222

I know. I need to switch to farleks of 3-5 minutes, which I keep telling myself. I'll learn one of these days!

From Matt Schreiber on Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 21:26:19 from 66.17.112.31

I'd blame it on the dead end. That'd have thrown anyone off.

From Jason D on Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 12:34:41 from 68.80.27.222

It was a bit more than that, Matt, but my concentration was definitely thrown. It happened last week on my regular tempo loop when I had to hit the sidewalk due to construction. I've been distracted on the track too because there was a sprint practice and I didn't want to look like an old man :-) So concentration is pretty essential for me.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.000.000.000.0012.00

PM: Walked 4.4 miles, about 2.25 with the dog I am walking. He seemed a little nervous but I jogged with him a bit and he seemed to like that. Off for some time in the woods. Should be nice and wet (light rain and cool now, lots of rain last night)

PM2: Trails - 12 miles. HR 147. Cool and pouring rain. Muddy trails. Good times.

Inov-8 Roclite 295 Miles: 12.00
Weight: 172.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
3.250.000.000.003.25

AM: 3.25 miles. HR 141.

Had to pull the plug on an easy run. Not good. It's not the heat; it's actually fairly cool and breezy. Just feeling very very off, so no 5k on the track tomorrow, no substitution workout and maybe no workouts all week. Moving the legs without giving up the whole business is the main priority. Might try later, might not.

PM: Walked for a little over 50 minutes with Remy. Came back, took a nap, got up for a while, then napped/layed on the futon for a while. Going to take two days off, get some fluids and rest and see how it goes.

Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 3.25
Weight: 173.40
Comments
From allie on Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 12:12:47 from 24.99.46.55

sorry. i know the feeling. i have a few entries last summer where all i wrote was "oof" because there was nothing else to say -- it really was just about keeping my legs moving and nothing else mattered. for me, it was mostly stress-related, but probably also a bit of mental fatigue and burnout.

i don't know how stressful your life is at the moment, but in my experience, running can take a pretty hard hit when there is significant stress around. it's nearly impossible to fight off, even if you tell yourself you are fine and you aren't feeling outright FRAZZED -- it still affects you. or maybe it has just been really hot lately and you are starting to feel the effects of training hard for many months...

whatever the case, you are smart to back off. feeling "very, very off" means something, and it's not usually productive to try and fight that feeling. hopefully stepping off the gas for a bit will help you reset and get back to feeling good again.

From Jason D on Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 17:49:18 from 68.80.27.222

Thanks, Allie. My training seems pretty typical for what I usually do. A little harder on the track, but I've slowed my easy pace by roughly 30 seconds to a minute. I am pretty sure it is stress related. I usually carry a bit but this is probably the most stress I've had in my life (even though it doesn't always feel present).

I'm taking at least two days off to rest, hydrate, and reevaluate.

From RileyCook on Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 19:41:17 from 73.52.134.194

Fluids is a good idea for sure. I feel the worst when I'm dehydrated.

A few days off won't kill ya or your training. Hopefully you'll feel better next week.

From Jason D on Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 14:48:42 from 68.80.27.222

Thanks, Riley. I am really good about drinking lots of water and not drinking much else (a little coffee, some wine or beer). My parents were here early in the week and they are big soda drinkers, so I ended up drinking a bunch of that. I doubt it is the problem, but it's definitely not my usual nutrition. It's very refreshing after a long, hot and humid workout though.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.000.000.000.000.00

PM: Walked about 4 miles, a little over 2 with Remy. He seems better than our first day out.

My legs felt a little wobbly. I don't think it's lack of calories (I eat too much for it to be that). I've slipped up on my iron for some time now and wonder if that doesn't have a tiny bit to do with it. Went to bed around midnight or so and kept falling back to sleep until 11:00. Managed to fit a nap in there too (the "luxury" of the unemployed). I might try some low stakes easy running tomorrow if I can get out of bed. I just don't feel great overall.

I'll likely do some core and stretching before bed just to say I did something today.

Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Jake K on Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 19:47:26 from 98.202.128.218

Hang in there man. Find a way for it to be fun. I'll be the first to say that training hard and running fast can definitely be a lot of fun. Its challenging and rewarding and it feels good. But don't let it drag you down when things aren't clicking the way you want them to. Not to be critical - but you are your own harshest critic. Which can be very good at times, because you have that strong internal drive... but as you know it can also be a vicious cycle when it starts going the other way.

Worst case scenario, you just say hell with it, do a Ragnar, and check that off the Holy Trinity of distance running (Boston, Ragnar, 100 miler).

From SlowJoe on Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 20:33:32 from 45.18.50.53

I think it's also pretty easy to dig yourself into a hole during summer, even when it doesn't seem like you're training that hard. I've been disappointed lately in how long it takes my legs to come back to me, especially when it seems like I haven't been doing all that much...heat just amplifies it so much, I think.

Carbs help too. I also get the weak/wobbly leg feeling too, which is when I decide to hit an Asian buffet at lunch, by myself, and sadly gorge more than any human should....mostly on rice and pad Thai. The feeling usually goes away 6 hours later. It's replaced by a different feeling, but that's another topic.

From Jason D on Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 21:09:30 from 68.80.27.222

Thanks, guys. Too many factors to isolate perhaps. I've been thinking today "at least I'm not injured." I'll try to go out in the morning. I think I figured out today that the running isn't the problem (I might be tired a few quarts down). I'm not doing anything that different, which is not to say that training can hit you differently at different times.

I will never run 100 miles (in one race). Likely not even 50, but I read a piece on Rob Krar and it lightened my mood today. I've also been following Max King on Strava. Ultra runners do some weird stuff! I like to play on the trails as I did on Saturday (two hours of puddle jumping and pouring rain). They are good for shade and to keep the heart rate low on recovery runs, but they won't be my main focus. Maybe when I am old and more Zen.

I think I'm good on carbs, Joe (but it did feel like low blood sugar). I've been snacking on cereal all day. Sadly my lunches are far less glorious than Asian buffet. Peanut butter, banana, and granola sandwich today, usually an egg on toast with cheese and a small green salad. I can eat my weight in Pad Thai though. That's actually my pre-marathon meal (or some Thai dish like basil fried rice or green curry). It's usually a step up in quality from what I imagine the buffet versions would do :-)

From Drew on Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 04:29:04 from 173.171.218.92

Almost everyone I know is struggling right now, Jason (myself certainly included). That's not to say there isn't something specific your body needs to work through. Just thinking it is a challenging time, and you will come through it.

From Jason D on Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 14:41:19 from 68.80.27.222

Thanks, Drew.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.750.003.250.009.00

PM: Walked with Remy for 40 minutes. Legs still feel quite weak. I found three golf balls though.

PM2: 9 miles. w/ 6 x 3 minute fartlek w/ 2 minutes easy. 20 minutes up/22 minutes down. Faster portions averaged 5:42-5:27

Did these under tree cover and the rolling dirt of Forbidden Drive. My legs felt weak on the warm up. Sometimes I feel crappy on a warm up but my legs the last 2-3 days have felt like they are going to crumble on me. Today was the same. Said screw it and did a workout to try to shake the crap loose.

I think this will be the style of my workouts for the next 4 weeks. Too much pressure with a full set of mile repeats or LT tempos this time a year. I'm not strong enough to gut those out until fall. Today's workout, though short, felt like a workout, I got through it, and finished stronger than I started.

Late:

+ Stretching and core

 

Nike Zoom Streak LT2 Miles: 9.00
Weight: 174.80
Comments
From SlowJoe on Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 15:36:22 from 12.182.148.249

I've noticed that 800s and below are usually ok in the summer, which is close to your 3 minutes, so probably a perfect choice you had. 1000-1600s are doable on a really nice morning, but anything over that and I have to drastically change my expectations. Well done.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
13.750.000.000.0013.75

AM: 6.5 miles. HR 140. Feeling a bit better. Legs still feel a bit weak.

Walked with Remy for a little over 40 minutes.

PM: 7.25 miles. Felt really good. Warm but dry.

Finished my revisions for chapter 3, after which I instantly felt better. A little pep in my step (compared to my easy pace as of late).

Late:

+ Stretching and core

Kinvara 2 White/Blue Miles: 7.25Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 6.50
Weight: 174.80
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.250.000.000.0012.25

AM: 8.25 miles. HR 148. Did some strides then 8 x 13-16 second hill sprints.

Found a longer hill for sprints. Works perfectly. After I did 40 minutes of walking on the Wissahickon trails with Remy. I finally saw what his owners warned me about. He really goes after other dogs. Good thing I'm 5 lbs over racing weight. No trouble holding him back. He's very sweet but he's got some deep-seated issues.

PM: 4 miles. HR 144.

+ Stretching and core (late)

Newton Gravity III Miles: 4.00Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 8.25
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.630.000.003.3716.00

AM: 11 miles total. Farlek of 8 x 2 minutes hard/2 minutes easy + 4 x 30 second harder/1 minute easy

Once again I did the workout under the shade and on the rolling dirt of Forbidden Drive. Upper 70s, nice and dry with a low dew point (<60). Planned to get through 10 intervals but I was pretty gasssed. It's a deceptively hard workout if you go out aggressively (the purpose). I did this back this winter and was seeing stars at the end.

I should have just gutted out the last two because I could have and it would have built confidence but I got in a decent workout. I tacked on the strides to work on my kick. They were slightly harder than my usual strides.

23 minute warm up/28 minute cool down. Averaged about 5:23 for the 2 minute portions.

Walked Remy for 50+ minutes shortly after.

PM: 5 miles easy. HR 133.

Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 5.00Nike Zoom Streak LT2 Miles: 11.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Bret on Fri, Jul 03, 2015 at 13:52:02 from 166.216.165.46

Glad to hear you are feeling better - good workout.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.250.000.000.005.25

Lunch: 5.25 miles easy. HR 137.

Not the 17.76 mile long run last year, but I'll definitely take my speed from this year.

Short 25 minute walk with Remy in the Wissahickon. I think I have officially taught him how to chill out around dogs he doesn't know. I should ask for a raise.

PM: Off. Low mileage this week but I am worlds better than where I started the week and I'm happy about that. Get back to business next week, hopefully run the mile on the track on Tuesday, maybe a workout later in the week or a long run. Get my mileage back up, get my doubles in, get in my stretching and core.

Happy 4th of July!

Newton Gravity III Miles: 5.25
Weight: 173.50
Comments
From Rob Murphy on Sat, Jul 04, 2015 at 12:36:30 from 24.10.247.181

No 4th of July "Firecracker 5k" for you?

From Jason D on Sat, Jul 04, 2015 at 13:05:35 from 70.192.132.210

Unfortunately, no. The lack of Philly 5ks was rather odd. Might have been looking in the wrong place. Happy 4th.

From Rob Murphy on Sat, Jul 04, 2015 at 13:09:41 from 24.10.247.181

Yes, Philadelphia played a fairly key role back in 1776.

From SlowJoe on Sat, Jul 04, 2015 at 17:40:53 from 45.18.50.53

Sounds like that dog never had it so good...long trail walks, adventures with other dogs..

Hopefully you've gotten some pop back in your legs in time for the mile - should be fun.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.006.000.000.0014.00

PM: 14 miles moderate pace. HR 159.

Progression through 10 miles, then 4 miles easy. Starting at mile 4 until mile 10 I cut the pace down from 7:23-6:27. Weather was in the mid to lower 80s but it was dry and I ran mostly under tree cover (so I ran by heart rate), which helped. I think I will continue to do that until the weather gets cooler.

Good run. I sweat out many of my Fourth of July Weekend sins.

Walked with Remy for 40 minutes or so after lunch before going out for my run.

+ Stretching and core (late)

Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 14.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From allie on Sun, Jul 05, 2015 at 15:55:08 from 24.99.46.55

so many sins yesterday -- i was presented with a choice of ice cream or sorbet. i couldn't decide so i picked both. and then came the beers.

great run. you bounced back just fine. :)

From Jason D on Sun, Jul 05, 2015 at 20:49:07 from 68.80.27.222

When someone asks you if you want dessert A or dessert B, the correct answer is always,"Yes." There were three desserts. I did 2 of the 3 because cherry pie isn't my favorite but I did manage to take some extra servings of dessert (major weakness!).

I feel better. Still kind of slumpy the last 6 months but it hasn't been terrible; mileage is way ahead of 2013 and 2014 and I've run a lot faster than I ever have in my track workouts. I've worked on a few factors that might be contributing to the problem and working from there.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
13.000.000.000.0013.00

AM: Trail - 6 miles very slow. HR 131.

Walked with Remy in the Wissahickon for 30 minutes. Still working on his dog encounters but he's doing well.

Hit the 2000-mile mark for the year. In 2012 it took me until Oct 18. In 2013 I hit the mark on July 20, and last year I hit it on July 25. I don't know me exact totals for the half year in 2010 when I started running and I don't have exact totals for 2011, but I know I was well under 2000 for both years. It helps this year that I didn't have a marathon and my mandatory one week rest period that accompanies them.

PM (late): Treadmill - 7 miles. HR 133.

Mizuno Musha Miles: 7.00Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Race: Germantown Academy All Comers Mile (1 Miles) 00:04:56, Place overall: 7
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.000.000.001.0011.00

AM: Pre-meet shakeout - 2 miles easy w/ 2 strides.

Walked for 80 minutes, 40 of which were with Remy. Probably going to regret being on my feet later but it was unavoidable. I did manage to steal 4 more Titleist PROV1 golf balls, which are $5 a piece. The course maintenance guys had thrown them into the chip path to mow, so I figured, why not? I left several balls but took the good ones :-) #hardtimes

PM: Germantown Academy Track Meet Mile - 2 miles (my first meet ever and I didn't really know the logistics so I flubbed up on the WU)

I don't actually have my time but I need to put something in. The meet was swamped with people and they were slow with results. Megan thought 5:01, in which case this will anger me beyond belief because I ran like a weak saucing fool as far as effort goes. She didn't know the line was behind the clock and I tend to remember the time just before I cross the line, which I thought was 4:55/4:56. They were still posting earlier results and I didn't want Megan to wait so I didn't cool down. I only got 1 mile of warmup but I did a bunch of strides and stretching and some light jogging to keep sharp.

REPORT: Update: 4:56.12. The winner ran 4:48. The old man lost to some young lads of 16-19. I'm not upset about that.

I was in the fast heat, which wasn't very fast this week. Mid-80s or so but with some cloud cover here and there, dry but with a solid dew point. I was suprised when the gun went off that no one really hit the inside other than 3-4 up front. I got elbowed a bit and thinking back I could have got whatever position I wanted because I outweighed everyone on the track. I fell way back almost last because I was being too nice. At the half I got up into 4th or 5th and the pace felt pretty pedestrian. I was going to jump out in the lead but didn't want to look foolish when I got crushed (stupid me). My legs were a little junky but my breathing was pretty mellow.

I stayed there until 3/4 and then I got gapped with 300 to go. Mistake #1245 of the meet. I should have stayed with them. I got passed but started kicking around 150 and I am not sure what happened, whether I got passed or if I passed anyone in the final stretch. My legs started to go mushy about 30 meters out and I thought I say 4:55-4:56 but I am not sure where I was with respect to the line. I finished breathing heavy but not super hard and many people were doubled over. I hadn't run hard enough. I've definitely finished longer races feeling more winded.

As I think the splits played out: 75ish? for the 1/4, 2:30 at 1/2, 3:45 for 3/4, and I know the last lap was faster than at least the third and the second if not the first. If I have the numbers right this means I would have run the last quarter in about 70-72, which seems possible.

I am an anxious mess because I want to know my time but don't know when they will post. Whatever the time, it's not a great mile time, but I've never broken 5 minutes in the mile, only having run it twice and although it's a pedestrian time it's important to me because I know I can run faster. I'll probably never run anything decently fast ever but a lot faster than whatever I ran today.

I'll run for an hour on the treadmill once this meatloaf digests.

Night: Treadmill - 7 miles. HR 143.
 

Mizuno Musha Miles: 7.00Kinvara 2 White/Blue Miles: 2.00Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 1.00Nike Victory Spikes Miles: 1.00
Weight: 174.30
Comments
From Bret on Tue, Jul 07, 2015 at 13:00:21 from 216.234.133.229

Good luck and have fun with it. You know the part about being off or on your feet.... I heard some good advice recently about that. Think about your last good workout. Did you rest up and stay off your feet before that, or did you have a normal day, and go do the workout? Point being - sometimes too much "rest" just throws you off - may even make you stiff or flat.

From Jason D on Tue, Jul 07, 2015 at 14:39:23 from 68.80.27.222

Thanks, Bret. I find that with more rest before a race I get sluggish and stiff (usually). I tend to feel much more fiery in the afternoons. I guess I was thinking like a marathoner and not a miler :-)

Hoping to run okay even though it's pretty warm, but I am also excited and nervous. I've never raced on the track before.

From steve ash on Tue, Jul 07, 2015 at 19:28:27 from 67.2.75.218

Jason, 5 minutes is nothing to sneeze at.. I remember when I first broke 5 minutes I was thrilled. You'll get there, keep plugging away.

From steve ash on Tue, Jul 07, 2015 at 19:33:24 from 67.2.75.218

From your splits it seems you may definitely be sub 4:50 capable. Is there anyone fast in your area that you could run a time trial on the track?

From Jason D on Tue, Jul 07, 2015 at 21:00:11 from 68.80.27.222

Thanks, Steve. It's always hard for me to tell if I am looking at the clock and remembering a time well before I cross the line. I didn't wear a watch because I figured it would be distracting and there was a race clock anyway. I never saw 5:00 plus and the clock was after the line, but it was hard to say. Math and numbers are difficult when I am running :-)

I think I had the best chance to run it today. I don't think the winners ran much faster than 4:40-low. It was a slow "fast" heat. Last week a guy ran 4:17.

The leaders were only 10-15 meters ahead of me for a good portion of the race. I have never raced on the track so my ability isn't great to learn to cover moves.

I do have a fast friend who could likely do it. He will sometimes run 5:10-5:15 for the first mile in a 5k.

From SlowJoe on Wed, Jul 08, 2015 at 05:23:47 from 70.120.215.129

Wow, nice work Jason. That's a big accomplishment for anyone, much less a guy that didn't run in high school. Takes a lot more work! Congrats.

From Drew on Wed, Jul 08, 2015 at 05:31:11 from 173.171.218.92

Congrats Jason! Breaking 5 is a great accomplishment.

From Jake K on Wed, Jul 08, 2015 at 06:01:23 from 98.202.128.218

Hey hey - nice job!! That's a great run and really nice to be well under 5:00 for the first time.

From Bret on Wed, Jul 08, 2015 at 06:48:02 from 216.234.133.229

Excellent result Jason - particularly for your first time in a track event - and sub-5 minutes is definitely an accomplishment. Well done.

From jtshad on Wed, Jul 08, 2015 at 08:02:58 from 141.221.191.225

Awesome performance, congrats on the sub 5:00 mile!

From allie on Wed, Jul 08, 2015 at 11:00:52 from 24.99.46.55

sub-5! nice! i'm glad you didn't have to get angry beyond belief with a 5:01 (i'd react the same way -- probably throw some meatloaf at the wall).

From Rob Murphy on Wed, Jul 08, 2015 at 17:01:15 from 24.10.247.181

That's a speedy mile for a non-miler. You might have some talent for this sport.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
11.500.000.000.0011.50

Lunch: Trails - 7.25 miles. HR 136 (but I think my monitor is already messed up).

PM: 4.25 miles. Didn't have time for much more and I didn't feel like running on the treadmill after dinner again.

+ stretching and core (late)

Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 7.25Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 4.25
Weight: 172.40
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.600.000.000.0010.60

AM: No run. I stayed up late and got up late. Our meeting with the apartment complex didn't start for 45 minutes and I had to get back to walk Remy (just under 40 minutes). Plan was only 4-5 miles, as I will be doing the Thursday group trail run with beer after assuming we don't get blasted with thunderstorms. Should be able to get in a medium long run today with a short single tomorrow and the race on Saturday, which is early and the coolest day of the week. I'll take it even if it is a 7:30AM.

PM: Trails - 10.6 miles.

3+ miles to Valley Green, waiting around a bit for people to start (I hate lag time even during workouts and races). I was hoping Jonathan would be there so I would know someone. I did meet some nice folks. We went on some sections of the trails I've never been on and some I never knew were there. Some of it was a bit too much like rock climbing. We did about 5 miles and the storms hit. We went back to Valley Green and took cover under the warming stables. I ate some beef jerky I packed in my shorts.

We were supposed to do the beer tasting but then everyone want to go to the brewery. We didn't even check to see if the tasting was going on and even if it wasn't the Inn has beer. It kind of ticked me off because I have been waiting for a time when I could do the Thursday runs without feeling too indulgent given that it takes a lot of time in the evening and I am the one responsible for dinner. I had packed a snack and my debit card and was really looking forward to the run. It was fun, but too much walking and waiting for people. I like to do 98% of my training alone. Harder workouts are great with people and I could use someone for easy long runs, other than that I think most of the time I am good. Unless it is with my wife. She can run with me whenever she wants.

2.25 miles after some standing around. It was pouring and the road was flooding. The lightening was hitting and the thunder was in the vicinity when I got back to the complex. It was getting a bit scary.

+ Stretching and core (very late)

Inov-8 Roclite 295 Miles: 10.60
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.600.000.000.005.60

Lunch - 5.6 miles. HR 145. Did a few pickups around race pace, then did a good set of strides.

Felt like crap as I usually do the day before a race. Some soreness in my hamstrings from the mile on Tuesday and legs a little dead from running a bit harder yesterday on the trails than I usually do.

I think I managed to get a break in the weather as it should be in the upper 60s at 7:30 tomorrow with okay humidity. I just hope I have something in my legs. They have a 10k mat, so I can get that split and not really care about the extra stupid distance for the quarter marathon. Probably a conservative start and start knocking off goal pace splits for B2B after 3 miles.

PM: 30 minute walk with Remy.

Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 5.60
Weight: 171.80
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From SlowJoe on Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 16:58:02 from 45.18.50.53

I sense a QM PR coming up...good luck tomorrow!

From Jason D on Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 18:50:46 from 68.80.27.222

I might have to take the 10k split and call it "Phil's Tavern 10k." Apparently that is what they had last year but they wanted something "extra challenging."

$15 and the 10k from last year was 5:08 pace. Cash for the top 3 and a pie to each age group winner. I'll run for pie (and the included breakfast). Got a pretty sweet break in the weather. I was worried signing up for it that it would be hot and miserable.

Race: Phil's Tavern Quarter Marathon (6.55 Miles) 00:39:04, Place overall: 7, Place in age division: 2
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.500.006.500.0017.00

AM: Phil's Tavern Quarter Marathon - 12 miles total w/ 6.5 in 39:05 or just under 6:00 pace

The race was $15, they had cash, pies to age group winners, and breakfast so I signed up back in April. We got a decent break in the weather after the crazy storms on Thursday that I got caught in. A tick under 70 degrees to start with lowish dew point.

Warmed up 3.2 w/ a half mile steady. Changed into my flats and did some strides. Felt flat but my strides felt okay. We started 10 minutes late but it was announced and I was okay with that. They had drones to take video, which was so freaky because they were hovering at head level and looking at us.

Goal was to run just under 6:00 pace for a few miles, then start ripping off goal pace splits for Beach to Beacon (5:40-5:45) but I never really got there. Sections of the race were on very soft woodchips and very windy trail, some sections of wet grass, but mostly roads. I kind of enjoyed the cross country sections even though they slowed me down a good deal. Not really to much to report for the race.

I passed a few people and couldn't quite gut it out to pass the two guys ahead of me. I think I counted about 7-8 seconds on them at one point. I felt pretty stale the whole race and it was mentally tough. My breathing was pretty good, but legs just didn't want to turn over. I think part of my problem is I rarely run before 10:30 and this race was at 7:30, meaning I had to get up at 5:45, which never happens. Might need to think about some early runs for a number of reasons.

The mile markers seemed to be missing in at least one place, another time my watch split early, so I resplit about 9 seconds later to make sure it was on. However, below are the "smoothed" Strava splits (basically even if you don't split your watch Strava takes splits for you).

5:48, 6:21 (windy, wood chip trail), 6:00, 5:49, 5:57, 6:09 (hill, then grass and some soft, but dry mud for a good bit of this), 5:44 (for last half mile or so)

I split at 10k to get that running time, and ran the last .35 at 5:15 pace, which had a slight downhill at the end. 37:15 for 10k.

Not a great race but not terrible. I'm not going to dwell on it. I don't have too much LT stuff and nothing of any duration, which will probably bite me in three weeks but I also have a 5 mile race I will use as a final workout. Just going to keep rolling and beating my head against the wall and see if I can turn myself into a decent runner.

My former training partner ran a 5k PR today in 15:55 and he has gone sub-16 in a 4-miler. He runs a third of my mileage (or less) and he has been running about the same amout of time. I'm doing something wrong.

Run this afternoon with Megan. Hopefull she takes it easy on me. 10 minute guy might be in 1st place for the PM run.

 

PM: Forbidden Drive w/ Megan - 5 miles. HR 116?

My blood sugar dropped pretty seriously around mile 2 and I was very light headed and dizzy. Snapped out of it. Not sure if my monitor is working correctly. One mile I was running 100 BPM but it also corresponded almost exactly to when I was trying to keep from falling over. I enjoyed the run other than bonking at 10+ minute pace. HR got to 89-90 at one point.

Newton Gravity III Miles: 5.00Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 5.50Miles With Megan Miles: 5.00Nike Zoom Streak LT2 Miles: 6.50
Weight: 175.00
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From SlowJoe on Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 10:05:04 from 45.18.50.53

But did you get a pie?!

That's a pretty good result given the course and conditions. If I were you I'd chalk your old training partner up as an extreme outlier (unless he's younger, which makes it explainable) and forget about it. I think you're doing things right, and you'd take him in a marathon!

From Jason D on Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 10:52:59 from 68.80.27.222

I feel okay about the race. I don't have anything longer than 5k since early May. A few more workouts and at least one more race.

He's my age. I have this debate with myself all the time, and I don't want to run 20-30 miles a week all at 6:00-6:30 pace.

I got a small pie, but not a big one. Still. . . pie! They had cherry, blueberry, and apple, all of my least favorites. I am kind of glad that it wasn't a big one because it wouldn't last long.

From flatlander on Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 15:35:52 from 76.31.29.220

That was smart to take a 10K split in a non-standard race. I never remember to do that. Good race.

From Drew on Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 20:05:49 from 173.171.218.92

Running invites comparisons, but it's a treacherous path. If you go purely by percentages, our times are much faster than most people lining up for a 5k. And it's not that they're doing anything wrong.

Equally, there are people (I got beat by one tonight) who will be faster with equal age and less mileage, due to any range of factors, most of them out of our control.

Sorry if that sounds didactic, it's not supposed to, and I know you know all of that.

I'm just trying to say that what is under a runner's control is their own improvement, and the good news is most of us have huge potential to improve. I strongly believe there is no reason to give up hope that those people in front of us will always be out of reach.

From Jason D on Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 20:17:11 from 68.80.27.222

Flat: They had a 10k register anyway, which I knew so I am not sure why I took the split. I was monkeying with my watch late in the race, which is why I should switch back to my Timex. Only one relevant screen and a lot less information. But I generally use my Garmin in non-certified courses. If I run off course due to bad marshaling I want credit for every mile!

Well said, Drew. I always think what I wrote in the entry and then quickly realize that I don't want to run that way if I have to run at fast easy pace. I like to run fast but I like to run slow too. Sometimes painfully slow.

I ALWAYS appreciate running advice, didactic or otherwise. It's one of the many reasons I continue to be on the blog. Just don't call me fat or slow and we are good :-)

From Drew on Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 20:26:55 from 173.171.218.92

Fair deal. Speaking of running advice (and apologies for switching topics) - I'm planning to run the 4-3-2-1 long run you recommended at some point this week.

What rest do you think makes sense between items? I was thinking maybe one mile easy recoveries...just wondering if that is too much.

From Jason D on Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 21:42:04 from 68.80.27.222

The time is given by the number of miles in the set but it's honest easy. I usually run 8:45-10:00 for typical recoveries but for this one the marathon paced miles I tried to keep it under 8 min pace given that I usually run a straight 8 mile tempo as the same pace as the 4 mile segment.

Given how far out you are you could do a mile recovery and repeat it in perhaps a month. I'll dig out some examples. Matt, "FreakityPopo" on the blog, did either half or a full mile with everything at MP. Look for his Saturday or Sunday runs starting in Feb and into March of this year. I'll find some old Paul entires for his version, the one I do, but a min slower per mile.

From Jason D on Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 21:49:20 from 68.80.27.222

Clarification: (4 miles/4 mins, 3 miles/3 min . . . ). It's mostly for volume without killing yourself but it's not easy if you do it progressively. For instance, your paces might be:

6:00-5:50, then ~5-10 sec faster, 10 seconds faster (about HMP), then 1 mile fast but controlled (maybe 5:15-5:20 for you)

From Jason D on Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 22:03:50 from 68.80.27.222

I may have sent this before but here is when I did it. This was about 6-7 weeks out from my race and ran 6:15-6:30 for my split deviation on race day.

http://jasondodge.fastrunningblog.com/blog-10-07-2014.html

Here's one from Matt, slightly different, done Feb with a marathon in mid April (first entry), but he did several like this

http://freakitypopo.fastrunningblog.com/blog-02-2015.html

Here's Jake:

http://jkrong.fastrunningblog.com/blog-AM-20-mile-long-run-with-4-3-2-1-mile-/02-21-2015.html

You get the idea.

From RileyCook on Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 14:26:11 from 73.52.134.194

Nice job Jason.

As far as your shakeout run in the PM, I sometimes get really weak and light-headed when I need my heart rate to increase for a lighter activity, but it doesn't. For example, it happens a lot hiking. My HR is like 80 bpm, but I'm trying to hike a steep hill. I just am not getting enough oxygen to the muscles. I usually snap out of it by picking up the pace or running a bit to increase the heart rate and I usually feel much better.

From Jason D on Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 16:09:25 from 68.80.27.222

That makes sense to me. I told Megan I needed to get my HR up, so I picked it up so I was at least 118-125 and I felt better. It happened several weeks ago when I was doing an afternoon shakeout after a race with her. I didn't think it was lack of calories because I had plenty, but wasn't 100% sure.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
13.000.000.000.0013.00

Lunch: 8 miles slow. HR 140.

Walked Remy for 30 minutes.

PM: 5 miles slow. HR 139.

Newton Gravity III Miles: 5.00Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 8.00
Weight: 172.90
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.250.000.000.0012.25

Lunch: 5 miles. HR 147. Did some strides w/ one sprint around 4-minute pace to a little bit under. My top end speed has definitely improved. I lost 2.8 lbs of water weight on this 5 mile run, and it wasn't even humid!

Walked Remy for 35 minutes. His owners come home today. I'm going to miss my rent-a-dog.

PM: 7.25 miles. HR 145. Nice and dry.

+ Stretching and core (very late)

Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 5.00Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 7.25
Weight: 172.90
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From steve ash on Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 12:48:21 from 67.2.75.218

Amazing isn't it how quickly we can become dehydrated in the heat. I'm looking into getting a camelback or the like along with a new heart rate monitor.

Dog sitting? Sounds kind of fun actually. What kind of breed was he?

From Jason D on Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 13:46:00 from 68.80.27.222

It was 85 or so with a decent dew point and relatively low humidity. When the numbers are higher I think I lose 3 lbs just through my feet! #squishyshoes

When I have been running on the treadmill even for easy runs I've been bringing a bottle just so I don't get behind on my fluids.

His owners were in Italy for 18 days, so I helped out their friend who has a dog herself and another dog she was taking care of.

He is a black lab mix with pitbull I think. You can tell a little bit in the face and by the way his back end sits up a little higher than the front. He's a rescue. He doesn't do well with dogs he doesn't know but I think I actually made some progress with him by choking up on the leash and putting my hand next to his face and redirecting his attention by speaking to him. If you give him the full length of the lease he pulls, jumps, bares his teeth, and barks/growls. I can't tell if he is being protective of himself or me.

From steve ash on Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 15:12:00 from 67.2.75.218

Interesting combo, a black lab and pit bull. Total opposites in aggression and behavior I would think.. As far as his defensive posture, he is probably defending both you and him perhaps? Not really much of a dog expert however.. I've only had one dog and that was a beagle when I was a young kid:)

From Jason D on Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 19:21:39 from 68.80.27.222

We had one when I was younger too. My parents have had 4 German Short-Haired Pointers. They have a 3 year old one now, and she is very sweet. Loves to run and swim.

Megan and I both want a dog but we are in an apartment and neither one feels right about having one. My parents' live way out in the sticks, and have a 4 acre lawn with lots of woods for their dog to run around. I'd at least like to have a small yard with a fence.

They are great animals, but it sucks when they go.

Race: Germantown Academy All Comers 5000 (3.107 Miles) 00:17:45, Place overall: 6
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
9.000.000.003.0012.00

Lunch - 4 miles easy.

Storms are supposed to roll through for the meet tonight, but I guess they are holding it with the caveat that if the lightning warning goes off, things are delayed/canceled. The 5000 likely won't start until 8:30 and I guess they are short on volunteers. If the same amount of people show up as last week, I doubt they will even have enough daylight to do it. It's also going to mean getting there before 6 and staying until at least 9:00 or so with the chance that I won't get to race and I won't get my miles in. Megan is leaving in the morning for a conference and I will likely go to the meet alone if I go. #firstworldrunnerproblems

I may have to take today easy and tomorrow easy and hit the pocket of low-60 degree air on Thirsday morning and 1) time trial the SOB (which won't be fun and likely disastrous) or 2) try to run the 4 x 1 mile @ 5:28-5:22 pace with 90 second recoveries. Assuming I get through it, that workout could have its benefits. It's always been a confidence booster (it's the hardest workout I do) and it will give me good volume faster than 10k pace. It's a lot of pressure to hit those times though given current workout history.

PM: Germantown Academy All Comers 5000 - 8 miles total

30 minute warmup of really easy jogging, stretching, strides. It was 8:45 before we took off so we didn't have the direct sun, but it was still in the lower 80s with the dew point around 72 or 73 and the humidity around 70% I think.

Like the mile I went into last place after the first lap then moved upa little bit once things settled out. The first 3 laps or so where 82-83 I think and I believe my first 1600 was about 5:31 and I apparently died from there. I didn't take splits because I wanted it to feel like a real track race (and I had a race clock anyway).

I didn't really think I was slowing down that bad but I guess I was. My form stopped feeling smooth and a few guys ahead of me increased their lead. Breathing and legs felt okay, but I think I was just ready to not be running at that time of the day.

I ran 17:45, which sucks. I know the weather was a huge factor I'm just tired of running 17:30-17:45. I guess I need more track workouts but I thought I was doing much better this summer, though admittedly I haven't had one in a few weeks, exchanging them for some racing and farlek workouts.

Give me fall air and marathon training. I'm ready for what I am okay at.

20 minutes easy cool down.

The opening heats were very warm:

Kinvara 2 White/Blue Miles: 4.00Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 5.00Nike Victory Spikes Miles: 3.00
Weight: 172.90
Comments
From jtshad on Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 07:58:11 from 141.221.191.225

Still a very good run and time!

From SlowJoe on Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 19:20:31 from 45.18.50.53

Yeah, that's a really quality race for this time of year - you'll be flying this fall.

From Jake K on Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 05:45:08 from 98.202.128.218

Given the weather and that you are still a track rookie, I think this is a pretty good result. When you get some cooler weather you'll be ready to bust out of the "almost PR" range.

From flatlander on Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 06:53:31 from 76.31.29.220

Takes a lot to run a 5K in that heat. I haven't even been tempted this summer, though they are out there, even in Houston. Nice pic.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
13.250.000.000.0013.25

Lunch - 8.25 miles. HR 133. Averaged 9:52. Just call me Jason 'Master of Recovery Pace' Dodge

-4.7 lbs water weight on this run

PM: 5 miles. HR 134.

Newton Gravity III Miles: 5.00Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 8.25
Weight: 172.80
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
13.500.000.000.0013.50

Noon: 8.5 miles. HR 146. Did a set of strides. Dry, low dew point and a nice breeze.

Another low in the low 60s tomorrow, so I will get in a workout. I am thinking 2k repeats starting at 5:48-5:50 and cutting down if possible. That may be too fast to begin things, but we shall see. I was also thinking an 8-mile aerobic tempo, but I think I need something with 10k specific pace since I haven't done too many workouts in that zone (mostly 5k and faster).

PM: 5 miles. HR 139.

+ rolling, stretching, and core (very late)

Kinvara 2 White/Blue Miles: 8.50Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 5.00
Weight: 172.70
Comments
From Matt Schreiber on Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 20:30:49 from 66.17.112.31

Sounds like you've got a plan. Have fun with it!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
11.450.004.100.0015.55

Lunch: 11 miles w/ 3 x 8 minute Farlek/3 min easy

Warmed up 28 minutes with a few pick ups and one stride. Managed to run 5:53/5:46/5:57 over rolling dirt with a good deal of tree cover (Strava adjusted paces were 5:47/5:43/5:44, which I don't put a ton of stock in by they look much better!). Felt like I maybe could have pushed just a touch more but I was pretty much in the right zone I think. I did not want to blow the workout. It's not hard but you get some solid minutes around to below LT.

Cooled down 30 minutes.

The low changed very quickly from 61 to about 67 last night and I didn't get up early so I thought a good farlek session under tree cover would be good. They pulled me out of my slump the week before last and I had a pretty good session today. Temps were upper 70s, with dropping humidty and charitable dew point of low 60. It's going to start getting hot and nasty so I will just do what I can with easy running, a two more workouts, and one race in the next two weeks.

PM: 4.25 miles. HR 129.

 

Newton Gravity LE Miles: 4.25Nike Zoom Streak LT2 Miles: 11.10
Weight: 172.40
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.000.000.000.007.00

PM: 7 miles.

87/60%/71 dew point. Nice actually aside from the audibly squishy shoes. 96 tomorrow and humid. Overall, it's been fairly mild this summer. Not too many days above 90 and some decent dry days in the afternoon.

Late: rolling, stretching, and core

Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 7.00
Weight: 172.40
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
13.250.000.000.0013.25

Lunch: Trails - 8 miles. Hot!

PM: 5.25 miles. Did some strides.

Hot. Dryer. Heat today kind of felt good but humidity was under 65% (somehow, thankfully). Dew point still 71 or so. Had I been tough and done a long run it would have hurt. A workout would have been disastrous. 

I feel good running-wise. It's National Ice Cream Day, so I'm off to Bredenbecks for a cone. Megan gets back in the morning. 

Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 8.00Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 5.25
Weight: 172.40
Comments
From Bret on Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 10:27:55 from 216.234.133.229

Cannot believe I missed national ice cream day (again!). :)

From Rob Murphy on Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 10:50:23 from 24.10.247.181

You can feel free to declare your own National Ice Cream Day anytime you want Bret.

From Jason D on Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 12:08:11 from 68.80.27.222

I thought it already happened, but maybe I'm thinking of doughnuts. National Ice Cream Day can definitely be made up. My cousin has postings all the time about national [whatever] day.

They had lots of free ice cream yesterday. I could have got a free single but I figured my double scoop in a waffle cone was plenty. It was really good.

From Rob Murphy on Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 12:25:32 from 24.10.247.181

Today is National Beer Day at my house.

From jtshad on Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 12:31:29 from 141.221.191.225

I'm on my way to Rob's...he serves up good beers!

From Jason D on Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 12:41:13 from 68.80.27.222

I'll be over.

From steve ash on Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 12:41:24 from 67.2.75.218

Got IPA?

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
13.000.000.000.0013.00

Lunch: Trails - 8 miles

PM: 5 miles. Did some strides. Hot, but felt really good.

+ Stretching and core (late)

Newton Gravity III Miles: 5.00Kinvara 2 White/Blue Miles: 8.00
Weight: 170.90
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.000.003.000.0010.00

AM: Off. Wanted to hydrate and rest a little and get some work done. Track tonight.

PM: Track Tuesday - 10 miles.

3.6 warmup/2.8 down. I was thinking shorter intervals but the guys were thinking 800s. Fine with me. Workout went okay. Slowed a good bit but that seems to be typical of my summer workouts. Pulled it back around for the last rep. Jogs were pretty slow. Weather was 85 degrees, 65% humidity, dew point around 70.

6 x 800 w/ 200 jogs: 2:45.5, 2:48.3, 2:47.6, 2:49.9, 2:51.3, 2:46.1 (2:48 average)

I think in my early fall prep for my half I will do a few more 800 workouts but extend the number of reps to 8-10.

Nike Zoom Streak LT2 Miles: 10.00
Weight: 172.10
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.250.000.000.0010.25

Lunch/Early Afternoon: 10.25 miles. HR 141. Very comfortable conditions.

Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 10.25
Weight: 170.40
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
16.250.000.000.0016.25

Lunch: 5.25 miles. Did some strides.

PM: 11 miles total, about 6 on the trails.

2 miles or so to Valley Green around 7:15 pace because I thought I was going to be late, but we waited a few minutes for the group trail run and ran just under 9 total with my warm up. The regular guys were there and kept the pace pretty honest, which felt good. I've been running 10:00-8:30 for my easy stuff and 5:00-5:30 for my fast stuff with nothing in between.

They had a beer tasting at Valley Green Inn, so we did that and had a few beers and some really good (if very small) smoked pork sliders. Hung out a while and then ran 2.25 home in the dark. Rather than feeling like crap (as I should have), I felt great even though my legs were stiff from sitting. Had a fun time, and the weather is perfect. Felt like I could have run for hours on the way home. Legs will likely be stiff in the morning from bombing some of the hills. It's a fun group and I feel like I am becoming more a part of Philadelphia (I don't really have any friends here, other than a few social events with colleages).

+ stretching and core (very late)

Kinvara 2 White/Blue Miles: 5.25Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 11.00
Weight: 171.10
Comments
From SlowJoe on Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 16:39:04 from 45.18.50.53

Anytime you can mix beer and running, it's a good time.

From allie on Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 16:54:56 from 24.99.46.55

it sounds like very small but good pork sliders and a beer or two or three is the perfect fuel for running. i might have to try this.

glad to hear you are enjoying the group runs and making friends. it's hard starting from scratch. i just wear my 'i heart ATL' t-shirt everday to try and fit in. so far i've made one friend and she is 68 years old.

From Jason D on Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 09:30:17 from 68.80.27.222

When I first started running I had this watch that was way off and I thought I was running 7:15-7:30 pace all the time. I borrowed a friend's Garmin, strapped both watches on and went on after several beers. The results were 1) I was nowhere near as fast as I thought 2) I fell only about a half mile into the run. But other than that, the mix is usually good :-)

I was thinking that those sliders would be good ultra running food. I started watching a documentary in which a woman eats lots of bacon for this epic Long Trail course record attempt. Her "chef" said it was easy to digest, but I the "second tasting" of bacon belches would probably do me in.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.000.000.000.006.00

Lunch: 6 miles. HR 139. Did 6 x 200 on the track.

Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 6.00
Weight: 172.20
Race: Run for the Hill of It (5 Miles) 00:29:32, Place overall: 2, Place in age division: 1
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
9.000.005.000.0014.00

AM: 10 miles total w/ 5-mile tuneup race in 29:32

Ran Run for the Hill of It this morning to give me one final LT push before Beach to Beacon. I ran this race last year with a disappointing 30:06. Went on to run over 10 seconds faster per mile the following weekend at Beach to Beacon.

We were blessed with some cool, dry air and dew points below 60 for the last 3-4 days before things get nastier again. Megan and I drove even though it is in the park where I do most of my running but my right hip flex. has been a little tight (not noticable running) and I wanted to warm up on somewhat flat dirt and avoid the big downhill coming down Germantown Ave.

Got in 2.5 miles of warmup but kept it somewhat fast (for my typical warmup anyway (7:30-7:45 for 2 miles, then light jogging). Some quick stretches and strides and we were off. We got out and settled into our pace and I found myself near the front. Knowing how fast this race can be I worried a bit, but saw my pace (decided to wear my watch) and we were running just under 6:00 and it felt very doable and too slow. I started to move toward the front because the pace was too slow but figured the guys behind me were sandbagging the first mile. It is not atypical for the 1st and 2nd to run 5:00-5:10 average pace.

I moved into the lead, then around 3/4 a guy moved up and put a gap on me that I didn't think I could cover but I kept him about 15-20 second ahead (he ran about 28 flat I think). I no longer heard footsteps after the first mile to mile and a half so I kept my pace and tried to push, figuring 2nd was in the bag. Going into Valley Green I think I was moving along okay and hit the turnaround, knowing the way back is a good bit slower. I was trying to get into the 5:40s but when I would starting holding 5:35-5:40 pace I would panic a bit and slow down without really thinking. I saw that the guy ahead of me was perhaps 20-25 second ahead of me. I hit halfway in just over 14:30, so I knew I had my work cut out for me to run 29 minutes, which would have made me quite happy.

Around mile 4 things started to get hard and my form started to suffer. I may have feel asleep knowing that there's a slight uphill grade just before the slight downhill at the finish and figured I had 2nd place wrapped up. I don't think I really gave up but didn't go completely to the well, which was not really the point today. I wanted an honest hard effort on loaded legs.

Came in at 29:32, so about 30+ seconds faster than last year. I also felt good during the race and felt pretty good about the race, which has been very rare in 2015.

Cooled down 2.5 and got some recovery snacks.

The rich, chocolatey goodness: 5:49, 5:52, 6:02, 5:55, 5:52 (5:54 average). Strava claims its worth about 5:49 pace adjusted but I think with some slight elevation change I run faster anyway. I don't adjust paces but I always like to see what the consolation pace is.

I don't think I am in 35-flat shape as I wanted to be, but I know I can run a PR (<35:42) next weekend and at least get a certified 10k time on my board. I'll try my best to do a lot better than that though. I'm planning a pretty serious cutback starting Wednesday, with a day off on Thursda. My plan is to run low-5:40s and try to pick it up (or just hang on). The first mile is quite fast on that course and there are some nice light downhills. Just need to try not to give too much back to the hills in mile 6 and give it hell on the partial like I did last year.

PM: 4 miles with Megan at 10-minute pace on a hot, dry afternoon. HR 119.

Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 4.00Miles With Megan Miles: 4.00Nike Zoom Streak LT2 Miles: 10.00
Weight: 174.20
Comments
From Drew on Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 09:13:35 from 173.171.218.92

Nice race, Jason! It must be a good feeling going into a goal race knowing you ran a tune-up more than 30 seconds faster than the year before.

From Jason D on Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 09:24:03 from 68.80.27.222

I think I'm going to be okay, Drew. Need to really push when it gets hard, but I'm going to taper a bit and have fresh legs, which usually only happens a few times a year.

After that, it's on to marathon training! That's when I do my best racing and running. You should see far fewer grumpy posts and a lot more solid workouts :-)

From jtshad on Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 14:10:18 from 173.198.176.121

Good run and prep race!

From allie on Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 14:51:53 from 24.99.46.55

very nice race, esp with ~80 miles on the legs.

From SlowJoe on Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 06:05:02 from 45.18.50.53

Nice work Jason. I love seeing a better time on the same course as last year.

From Jake K on Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 10:38:05 from 199.190.170.22

Nice B2B tuneup. Not to be confused with a BSB tuneup. Let your legs rest up and be ready to crank it to 100% this weekend.

We'll be up in Maine too... not sure how long you'll be there, but if you get the urge to visit Boothbay/Southport, we could totally team up and try to beat the 10-minute guy on Sunday or Monday.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
9.000.000.000.009.00

PM: Trails - 9 miles. HR 135. 1000 feet of gain.

I'm going to soak in the pool for a while.

+ rolling, stretching, and core (late)

Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 9.00
Weight: 172.10
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.500.000.000.0012.50

Noon: 8.25 miles. HR 147. RHR 41.

PM: 4.25 miles. HR 138.

+ stretching and core (late)

Rolled out my right IT band with The Stick. My hip flexor has loosened up but now my IT band has been tight. Not painful, just knotted. I think it is probably from running on the trails last Thursday and finishing on a slight downhill for the race on Saturday and breaking quickly and overstriding on some of the downhills during the race because some portions of Forbidden Drive have some rocks and threw my form off.

Newton Gravity III Miles: 8.25
Weight: 172.10
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.750.003.000.2510.00

AM/Lunch: 7 miles w/ sharpening workout of 3 x 1600 w/ 400 jogs + 2 x 200 w/ 200 jogs

86 degrees, dew point 70, humidity in the 60% range but dropping. Warmed up about 20 minutes feeling fairly decent but warm. Wanted to just get something faster in, around the same pace as I ran on Saturday but faster would be better.

Ended up running:

5:46.5, 5:44.4, 5:38.4 (5:45 average for the full mile) took 2 minutes rest, got some water, and splashed my head, then did 2 x 200, 34.1, 34.1. I had planned to do 4 x 200 but felt I had done enough to accomplish my goal of sharpeing. I felt very comfortable for the first one, almost easy (almost). This was a lot faster than I ran last year, I felt better, and the conditions were worse (6:01, 5:59, 5:58 I think).

Maybe a light 2-3 mile jog in the PM just to keep stretched out.

PM: 3 miles. HR 132.

+ stretching (before bed)

 

Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 3.00Nike Zoom Streak LT2 Miles: 7.00
Weight: 172.10
Comments
From SlowJoe on Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 18:52:56 from 45.18.50.53

You are pretty dang good in the heat - those aren't friendly conditions for mile reps at all. Great progress this summer.

From Jason D on Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 20:40:02 from 68.80.27.222

I managed to get more faster miles in this summer than ever before. I think it will help for fall and cooler weather, long runs, and a slight increase in mileage.

Hoping to run a big half PR and marathon PR and try to take down the 17 minute mark in the 5k along the way.

Workouts have been tough. The last two have gone very well (thankfully).

From Rob Murphy on Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 20:46:38 from 24.10.247.181

Excellent work Jason.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.000.000.000.005.00

AM: 5 miles slow. RHR 44.

Quite hot and nasty. Taper time. I never really know how to taper for a short race, so I'm going with what I did last year, which is tomorrow off and ~4 miles easy with strides on Friday. I'm 30 days on today, so a day off is necessary, travel day tomorrow, etc.

Newton Gravity III Miles: 5.00
Weight: 173.50
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.000.000.000.000.00

Day off. 30 days on. Travel day to Maine.

(Weight 173.5, not typical racing weight, but close, not ideal, never is) (RHR 40, normal)

Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.250.000.000.004.25

AM: 4 miles nice and easy with Megan. HR 134. RHR 40. Did 3-4 race pace pickups. Feeling good.

Did some light stretching. Lower 80s in Maine at 10AM. Warm for this part of the country. Looks like Ben True dropped (smartly) but it's always nice to see him mixing it up. 

Kinvara 2 White/Blue Miles: 4.25Miles With Megan Miles: 4.00
Weight: 170.90
Comments
From allie on Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 13:06:37 from 24.99.46.55

have fun tomorrow, and good luck. i hope you get a nice, cooling sea breeze.

From Bret on Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 17:12:46 from 99.1.220.106

Yeah - good luck Jason!

From Jason D on Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 17:36:39 from 70.192.32.22

Thanks! Feel pretty good and fairly rested. About 70 at the start line but I can deal with that.

From Rob Murphy on Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 17:45:05 from 24.10.247.181

Have a good one Jason.

Race: Beach to Beacon (6.214 Miles) 00:35:52, Place overall: 103
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.500.006.250.0011.75

AM: 11.75 miles total w/ 10k race in 35:52. 30 second certified PR.

A good race for me. Wanted sub 35:30, but I just couldn't get the pace down. This is actually the first time I've run an honest sub-36 (my old PR was a short course I'm pretty sure). So it's a legit certified PR. I'll take it. Wanted to run faster but that's the game we play isn't it? Warmer than I thought. 70-72 at the start, 75 or so at the finish. I gave it a pretty hard effort today. 

I'll post a report later. Going to swim in the ocean. 

2.5 up/6.2 race/30 minute barefoot cool down

RACE REPORT

I always seem to get confused on race morning which way the start line is. Last year I thought I was near the high school giving me a 3 mile warmup but I was right next to the start line. This year I was basically right behind it. I warmed up on a flat section of road that work nicely. Ran 2.5 miles with a few strides.

I was planning to open in the low 5:40s given the slight downhill at the start. I hugged the inside corner trying not to trip anyone as it was a little crowded but not bad. I felt very good in the first mile, almost like it was too easy but I knew that the temperature was rising into the mid-70s. I did my best to focus and try not to monkey with my watch too much. I also did my best to keep my pace up, which I did okay with, trying to use the downhills.

I felt like I was working around mile 3-4 but not dying. I felt like the downhills gave me some extra boost through here and I started running one of the miles around 5:25-5:32 but knew that I wouldn't be able to hold that and I was digging a bit too close to vo2 max. The last helpful downhill is just before mile 5 going into Smuggler's Cove (I think that's the name). You hit the lowest portion of the course and the tree line opens up on the ocean (great view but I never notice it during the race).

The last mile features a few hills that aren't terrible but they will slow you and I have come to believe if you can hold pace here you probably ran too slow in the opening (or are an elite who is racing for place). The worst part is the turn into the park at the top of the hills. It's not quite 180 degrees, but the course narrows to a paved pedestrian path and there is a short steep uphill that also turns at the same time and it stings a bit.

I was running about 6:20-6:30 for a time in the last mile and I didn't go into the hills with too much speed. I knew I was losing sub-36 through here, but once I got to the park (about a half mile to go) and got over the last hump I picked it up, running 6:02 for mile 6. I was really working in mile 6. I think I was doing some serious cheek flaring and grimacing (I had a slight onset of side stitches).

I waited to kick a little because I couldn't see the finish line. As it turns out I was already picking it up without realizing it. When I was at mile 6 I saw 34:50 on the clock, knowing last year I kicked in 1:04 (1:08 the year before) and had a few seconds in the bnk for net time. A tall skinny fella passed me (I passed him around mile 5-6), but I beleive I blew by him pretty seriously when I saw the finish and gave it another gear once I hit the grass. I felt like I didn't kick very hard but I was under 5:00 pace, kicking in just under 62 seconds. I think I should have picked it up sooner and kicked harder, but I didn't dog it by any means. Had I needed to fend someone off and if I were not blowing by people I could have grabbed another gear.

I hit the line and was quite gassed. I did not recover as quickly as I sometimes do, but that was good.

Turned off my GPS and started to cool down barefoot on the rather dead and dry grass.

The rich chocolatey goodness: 5:41, 5:48, 5:44, 5:47, 5:47, 6:02, 1:02 (~4:50-4:55 pace). Ran the course at 6.22, which was nice given my relative difficulty with tangents even on point-to-point course :-)

I'm realizing the advances in the 10k are incremental from here and today is something to be pleased with. I'm not a 10k person and I didn't do anything really 10k specific, other than trying to get some track stuff in and several 5ks. This is not to say that I don't have work to do.

Officially 16 weeks to the Philadelphia Marathon. I'll work on staying consistent, getting my mileage up a touch with regular long runs. I'll try to run a half marathon this fall around the same pace that I ran today. 75 minutes would be great, but again small chunks are good at this point and for the most part I've decided on the mindset of going into key races with PRs in mind. I can't just knock 60 seconds of my 10k time or 3-6 minutes in the half like I used to.

Cheers.

PM: Off.

Nike Zoom Streak LT2 Miles: 8.75
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From flatlander on Sat, Aug 01, 2015 at 13:17:49 from 76.31.29.220

Congratulations, that is a great time.

From Tom K on Sat, Aug 01, 2015 at 14:53:05 from 174.58.54.215

Great race! Love the barefoot cool down!

From Rob Murphy on Sat, Aug 01, 2015 at 15:32:17 from 24.10.247.181

That's a great time. Kudos.

Enjoy the rest of your trip.

From SlowJoe on Sat, Aug 01, 2015 at 18:16:38 from 45.18.50.53

Very nicely done!

From allie on Sun, Aug 02, 2015 at 09:00:42 from 24.99.46.55

congrats on the legit certified PR. great time.

swimming in the ocean after a race sounds quite nice.

From Bret on Sun, Aug 02, 2015 at 11:49:05 from 99.1.220.106

Way to go Jason! Congrats on the new PR!

From Drew on Sun, Aug 02, 2015 at 14:32:02 from 173.171.218.92

Nice race Jason. Good to see you get a PR with the solid training you've been putting in.

From Jason D on Mon, Aug 03, 2015 at 08:59:38 from 45.46.20.59

Thanks, all. I put my typical extra-long report up finally.

Barefoot running is something I started doing at my parents' house before Beach to Beacon 2013. They have a great lawn. Last year I started doing cool down barefoot after B2B.

I tried paddle boarding on the ocean. It was more difficult than I though. Fantastic glute and core stability exercise. Went into the drink several times trying to impress Megan.

From joebell1981 on Mon, Aug 03, 2015 at 16:28:05 from 99.39.133.24

Boom - Awesome, buddy! Great race!! Take out the uphill mile 6 and your at your 35:30 goal. That's awesome man.

From Snakemoney on Tue, Aug 04, 2015 at 00:47:35 from 155.91.45.226

Sick!!! Well done man.

From jtshad on Tue, Aug 04, 2015 at 08:34:44 from 141.221.191.225

Solid race, well done!

From Jake K on Tue, Aug 04, 2015 at 10:01:04 from 199.190.170.28

Glad you have a good race. A PR was well-earned after with the work you've been putting in. A 30 second improvement over a year is solid, and think of what that could mean for a race 4X the distance and more in your area of expertise :-)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.250.000.000.006.25

AM: 6.25 miles w/ Megan.

HR 130. Felt good despite some terrible eating and drinking choices. Megan was on the move today. She asked me to speed up to 10k pace at the end so I switched my pace on and we picked it up. She was impressed.

Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 6.25Miles With Megan Miles: 6.25
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
13.500.000.000.0013.50

Lunch: 7.5 miles. HR 145.

The weather in Maine has been great. Lower 80s and dry.

PM: 6 miles. HR 131. 5 miles with Megan, then 1 mile barefoot on the tar running back and forth. I upped the ante from the grass. Road was pretty much rock free.

Newton Gravity III Miles: 5.00Kinvara 2 White/Blue Miles: 7.50Miles With Megan Miles: 5.00
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
2.005.000.000.007.00

AM: Off. Going to DEW Animal Kingdom. It's basically a redneck zoo, but very cool. The owners have a profound passion for critters.

PM: 7 miles. HR 161. 1 mile easy (9:00), then 5 steady @ 6:30 average over somewhat rolling course, 1 mile (~9:15)

Just a short workout to clear the grumpy care bear cloud hanging over my head. Too early for a workout after a key race but not much of a workout. Massively dehydrated and I ate about a dozen peanut butter snickers before the run. Guts sloshing everywhere. Effort was high. I got a side stitch during my short cool down. Pretty strong indication of bad dehydration.

Splits: 6:28, 6:37, 6:28, 6:23, 6:36

Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 7.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From SlowJoe on Wed, Aug 05, 2015 at 19:11:02 from 45.18.50.53

Sounds like a my little pony just got its cutie mark.

From SlowJoe on Wed, Aug 05, 2015 at 19:11:58 from 45.18.50.53

I apologize if you have no idea what I'm talking about.

From Jason D on Wed, Aug 05, 2015 at 20:09:34 from 45.46.20.59

I don't, but I'm sure the reference is good :-) Unless you just mean My Little Pony in general, in which case I do.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.250.000.000.006.25

AM: Off. Family time. 

PM: 6.25 miles. HR 131.

Pretty much a down week at this point. That's okay. Long tempo on Saturday for the Mayor's Cup. Plan is to run progressively at ~marathon pace.

 

Kinvara 2 White/Blue Miles: 6.25
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.000.000.000.000.00

Off. Travel.

Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.250.000.000.008.25

AM/Lunch: 8.25 miles. HR 154. Did some strides in the middle.

PM: Off. Decided to take the afternoon off and get some fluids in and get back on track from vacation/down week

+ stretching (very late)

Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 8.25
Weight: 0.00
Race: Mayor's Cup 10 Miler (15k) (9.36 Miles) 01:00:24, Place overall: 11
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.005.004.360.0013.36

AM: Mayor's Cup 10 Miler - 13.36 total. 1 up, 15k steady state (HR 174), 3 mile barefoot cool down.

I decided to give this one a race report since it was technically a race and although I wasn't really racing for time or place I ran a little harder than I planned. Our team wasn't going to win eveything but I didn't want to go into it with that mindset.

This was the inagural Mayor's Cup and the Wanderers thought I was the best candidate for the 10 miler on the roads. I planned to run a 10 mile progression at roughly marathon pace, starting at just under 6:40 and cutting down. My diet and drinking at my parents' was full on vacation mode and I knew I wasn't going to run roughly 6-minute pace on this course. However, I still wanted to put in an effort and not embarrass myself (even though we aren't a competitive team).

All events had the same start and finish line, which proved near disastrous for my finish (more on that later.) The race started on the historic Bellmont Plateau, so I got to start and finish on part of the course. We took off roughly on time and had some decently dry air for the morning, beautiful for August. The first part is on grass and uphill on some rough sections, so I started sensibly and worked from there. Some decent downhills toward the end of the first mile into the second, then onto and out and back section of Martin Luther King Drive. Below, the slow splits and high heartrate at the end are the hills on the way back up.

I knew I wasn't going to be in contention for the win so I focused on running at an effort slightly higher than my 8 miler aerobic efforts I usually do. I began picking off some guys and working on a pack of ladies who died at various points, while only passing the last lady mere seconds from the finish line. The hills on the way back up hurt a good bit but then I was able to start a decent kick along the grass finish. RIGHT THEN THE 5 MILE RACE TOOK OFF and I ran through a crowd of people who knocked into the woman in front of me. I assured them that I would not stop and I didn't.

I knew the course was short beginning around mile 5 (and what's a kilometer between friends?) but I wasn't worried. I fully expected it.

The rich chocolatey goodness with heart rate (I wanted some early marathon training data to see my progression):

6:30 (160), 5:59 (170), 6:25 (172), 6:21 (174), 6:27 (175), 6:15 (177), 6:21 (178), 6:56 (179), 7:18 (180), 1:51 (181, ~5:15 pace); HR Avg 174

We had a BBQ and beers after. Pretty cool event that was quite well run given its complexity.

PM: Off.

Saucony A6 Miles: 10.36
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.500.000.000.0012.50

Lunch: 8.25 miles.

Atypically sore today. Hamstrings and glutes. I could feel them already yesterday afternoon. Felt fine running. One of the best recovery runs I've had in some time. Just watched people, zoned out, and ran slow.

PM: 4.25 miles. HR 142.

+ Stretching and core (very late)

Newton Gravity III Miles: 4.25Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 8.25
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
13.000.000.000.0013.00

Lunch: Treadmill - 8 miles. HR 148.

Did some 10k pace pickups and I can still feel the soreness from Saturday, so I will jog while the guys run at the track tomorrow. I will do my workout when the soreness leaves. No sense getting stupid 16 weeks from a marathon. ("Vacation weight, oh why, you punish me . . .")

PM: 5 miles.

Figured out I got a nice extra chunk of change coming to me for a new course I'm teaching. It won't solve all financial woes, but it's a pretty huge relief. Summers are tough for non-full-time academics.
 

Mizuno Musha Miles: 8.00Kinvara 2 White/Blue Miles: 5.00
Weight: 175.30
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.000.000.000.006.00

AM: Off.

PM: 6 miles with Megan.

Late: rolling, stretching, and core

Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 6.00Miles With Megan Miles: 6.00
Weight: 174.40
Comments
From Rob Murphy on Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 12:56:32 from 24.10.247.181

Nice work. "Rest is the basis of all activity" - Joan Benoit Samuelson.

From Jason D on Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 20:55:25 from 68.80.27.222

I'm getting smarter in my old age :-)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
14.250.000.000.0014.25

AM: 9.25 miles. Did a good set of strides in the middle. RHR 44.

PM: 5 miles. HR 140.

Late: Stretching and core.

Newton Gravity III Miles: 5.00Kinvara 2 White/Blue Miles: 9.25
Weight: 175.50
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
11.000.000.003.0014.00

AM: Track Workout - 10 miles total. 

Had a good workout today with a decent break in the weather. Favorable conditions in the mid to upper 70s but nice and dry with a dew point just under 60 (heavenly).

I planned on a mile breakdown workout, then I thought a version of the Michigan might be "fun" (with the tempo miles closer to fast marathon pace or steady state), then I thought I should be getting into more LT stuff, but I told myself just 2-3 more faster track sessions given that I have ~11 weeks until my half. I definitely want to be more into marathon training but I think working on my speed for just a few more sessions might be helpful as I begin to mix in aerobic tempos, long runs, and LT workouts.

Anyway . . .

1600 (400), 2 x 800 (200), 4 x 400 (200)

5:24.4, 2:40.8, 2:40.7, 76.5, 76.7, 76.6, 74.2

Cooled down to 10 miles

PM: 4 miles easy with Megan. HR 131.

+ Stretching (late)

 

Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 4.00Nike Zoom Streak LT2 Miles: 10.00
Weight: 176.20
Comments
From Drew on Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 18:29:05 from 173.171.218.92

Wow, nice workout!

I find doing things like that can *really* help leading into a marathon block. Makes MP seem much more manageable - more like a balancing of speed and stamina, but not overly demanding on the speed.

From SlowJoe on Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 19:48:18 from 45.18.50.53

Pretty cool idea and a really nice result. Might steal it (the idea, not the result!).

From Jason D on Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 20:32:45 from 68.80.27.222

Thanks, guys. The workout was about as fast as I could have hoped and I was breathing pretty heavy at the end. I finally locked into some dead on pacing and finished hard.

Joe: Basically combinations of 3-4 miles so you trick yourself into thinking it's going to be easy :-) I did a similar workout in light snow last winter but I had a 1200 after the 1600. That one is tough.

Drew: I did something as simple as 6 x 200 strides just below mile pace then cutting down last marathon buildup, and I attribute my lack of staleness leading into the marathon to those. They are just long strides of course but I kept them fast and it kept me from locking completely into marathon pace. I did find that running much faster than 6:00 pace wasn't as easy as it once early in the buildup.

I might do 1-2 track sessions once I get some more marathon stuff under my belt just to stay sharp as well as see how fitness improves with a more finely tuned aerobic engine and cooler weather.

From allie on Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 18:01:42 from 24.99.46.55

nice workout. all of your splits are great but i think your 1600 is especially impressive. you are definitely heading into your half/full training with some fast wheels -- this is a fine recipe.

From Jason D on Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 19:37:28 from 68.80.27.222

Thanks, allie. In cooler weather I've knocked out 3 x 1 mile around this pace but I am trying not to compare workouts too much (at least on the faster end). If I get in a mile under 5:30, run hard some more, and live to tell about it, I consider it a good day.

I'm trying to make marathon pace easy and current 10k pace sustainable for a longer distance. I would much prefer to run 8-mile tempos are marathon pace but those are my strengths, not my weaknesses.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
13.250.000.000.0013.25

AM: Trails - 8.25 miles. HR 133. Pleasant run.

PM: 5 miles.

Newton Gravity LE Miles: 8.25Kinvara 2 White/Blue Miles: 5.00
Weight: 175.30
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.250.000.000.0010.25

PM: Trails - 10.25 miles. HR 146. 1000+ feet of gain.

Hot, dry, and dusty. Around 90 degrees.

Evening: Stretching and core

Inov-8 Roclite 295 Miles: 10.25
Weight: 175.30
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
16.000.000.000.0016.00

PM: 16 miles, averaged 8:17. HR 158.

I didn't get out until about 1:00PM and I paid for it. 90+ degrees with low humidity and tolerable dew point. Kept most of it in the shade of Forbidden Drive. Tried to pick it up to a somewhat moderate pace once I hit the 8 mile turn around. I felt decent, then I would hit a small roller and die. Managed 7:50-7:35 for about 5 miles, then did some strides, which caused me to start bonking. I dragged myself up Germantown Hill (~300 over 1.2 miles) and keep going to hit 16. 

I stayed up until 1 or so, so for 13-14 hours I only had a banana. Not sure why I didn't just eat breakfast when I got up. My goal today was to just get through 15-16 miles and get a baseline. It usually doesn't take me too many long runs until I am running 20 @ 7:30 or faster, so I am not concerned about running slower than 8:00 pace.

+ Stretching and core (late)

Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 16.00
Weight: 175.30
Comments
From Matt Schreiber on Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 21:07:42 from 66.17.112.31

I wouldn't be concerned a bit. These hot depleted runs are only about getting the miles in. At least that's what I tell myself. :)

From Jason D on Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 19:33:22 from 68.80.27.222

That was more or less my plan but I got a bit too cute and tried to push a little bit. I should have just run 8:15-8:30 and I probably could have run 18 miles or so.

I usually give myself a mulligan on the first long run. They tend to go much better from here.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.000.000.000.0012.00

AM: Treadmill - 4 miles.

HR monitor wasn't reading correctly; it was all over the place. I likely will stop using it again. I hate paying good money for things that are absolute crap.

PM: Trails - 8 miles. Hot. Quite a bit of climbing and working around downed trees. Pretty tired.

+ Stretching and core (late)

Mizuno Musha Miles: 4.00Inov-8 Roclite 295 Miles: 8.00
Weight: 173.50
Comments
From Bret on Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 09:08:45 from 216.234.133.229

I really disliked the old school chest strap HRM's because of incorrect readings - annoying/discomfort etc. Switched to an optical HRM that I wear on my arm. It is pretty spot-on - liking it very much. Connects to garmin watches and to multiple phone apps with bluetooth. In case you want to try something else instead. Less than $75.

From Jason D on Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 15:29:42 from 68.80.27.222

The Garmin 225 has a built in one I guess but it doesn't have the all the features I like, otherwise I would have traded it.

Which brand are you using?

From Bret on Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 15:40:49 from 216.234.133.229

Scosche rhythm - connects to my Garmin 620 and lots of bluetooth apps on the iphone.

There is another one I have that's in a hat - called Lifebeam - which works well, when it is functioning. Its really buggy - when taking it off the charger for some reason - it locks up sometimes and its tricky to get it to turn on and off. Anyway, I like the idea of it in my hat for running when its sunny and hot, but not so much if it am indoors or if its so cold outside that I want more than a running cap.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
13.250.000.000.0013.25

AM: 8.25 miles. Sloggy.

PM: 5 miles.

Newton Gravity LE Miles: 5.00Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 8.25
Weight: 175.40
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
11.005.000.000.0016.00

AM: Flourtown Tempo Loop - 11 miles, averaged 7:42 w/ 5-mile marathon effort tempo

Nasty one this morning so I just decided to keep the effort sensible and short. Felt pretty crappy given that it was 7:30 in the morning and already in the mid-70s with 90% humidity and 73 dew point. I was going to run on the treadmill (which actually works okay for me for aerobic stuff) but decided on the roads.

5-mile tempo @ 6:40 average: 6:36, 6:40, 6:40, 6:42, 6:40

If the conditions were so crappy I would be ticked, but I just wanted to get in something and move on. Cooler weather will come and I will be knocking these out for 8 miles at sub-6:30 pace and hopefully getting down to 6:15 average this fall.

2.75 mile cool down

PM: 5 miles.

+ Stretching and core (late)

Newton Gravity III Miles: 5.00Newton Flat 5 Miles: 11.00
Weight: 173.60
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
13.500.000.000.0013.50

AM: 6.25 miles. Pretty gross out.

PM: 7.25 miles. Nice, light rain.

Decided to skip the trail run as it would have been much more of a time comittment and I got on a pretty good writing roll.

Kinvara 2 White/Blue Miles: 7.25Saucony Ride 7 Miles: 6.25
Weight: 174.80
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
13.000.000.000.0013.00

AM: 5 miles. Did some strides.

PM: 8 miles. Beautiful weather.

+ Core and stretching (very late)

Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 8.00Saucony Ride 7 Miles: 5.00
Weight: 175.60
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.250.000.000.0012.25

AM: Trails - 8 miles.

Right calf tightened up twice for just a few seconds. Felt fine otherwise. This is something new, but I am hoping it was just a cramp. I'll keep an eye on it.

PM: 4 miles with Megan. Did just a couple short, but fast strides in the parking lot to loosen up and test my calf. Felt fine.

I think this is my second highest week ever, though I've had numerous weeks in the low 90s (averaged 91 miles for 10 weeks or so fall 2013). I'm not sure I'll continue with numbers just under 100, but I'll try to keep the weeks just at or just below 90 as has been my practice for the last two marathons. We will see how I feel, how workouts go, and what the schedule allows. Doubling 6 days instead of 4-5 makes quite a difference.

Inov-8 Roclite 295 Miles: 8.00Saucony Ride 7 Miles: 4.25
Weight: 176.50
Comments
From Derunzo on Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 09:40:50 from 73.218.33.75

Friggin'Fire Axe!

From Jason D on Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 09:46:28 from 68.80.27.222

Hahaha. I figured that was you but the name threw me off.

I realize the guy was only trying to be cautious and keep me safe but he was a little too fatherly in his tone.

It's single track through there and I knew they were working so I slowed to a walk and tried to go through the woods but he said, "Never get behind (beside?) the machine. Something something it could tip over with that 500 lb rock."

I didn't say anything but I thought with all the people around they could have set up something to block and reroute the trail.

I fell not long before that too and my calf tightened up twice, so all in all not a fantastic run but the weather is really nice at least.

From Derunzo on Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 13:11:57 from 73.218.33.75

I have a hard time keeping the demon at bay on occasion.

At least you didn't say, "Hey buddy, how about a nice cold glass of SHUT THE HELL UP!"

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
20.000.000.000.0020.00

AM: NW Philly Long Run Route - 20 miles, averaged 8:10

Slow, never felt fantastic. Comfortable conditions. A little warm (75-80), but again comfortable. Calf spoke up a few times but never really hurt or caused me to stop. It kind of feels like that point just before a muscle goes in to full tighten up mode but never quite gets there. It does concern me even though it hasn't become a problem yet.

Fairly hilly route with 1300 feet of gain, which I think puts me at a PR for the week with almost 7000 feet of gain.

+ Stretching (late)

Saucony Ride 7 Miles: 20.00
Weight: 175.60
Comments
From SlowJoe on Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 18:21:07 from 45.18.50.53

And a hundred miles to boot! Feeling pretty good?

From Jason D on Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 18:38:45 from 68.80.27.222

I feel good. A little tired today, but I've felt a lot worse on long runs. Fairly typical of a warm 20 now that I think about it.

The last 2-3 weeks I've felt better than I have all year. Enjoying it and ready to hit some longer workouts.

Calf has been squawking a little. I'll just take a few days if I need it.

From Jake K on Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 08:44:02 from 199.190.170.31

Big week, dude. It's marathon season! :-)

From Jason D on Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 09:22:16 from 68.80.27.222

It was somewhat "accidental." Just went with my standard 12-13 doubles, a mid-week workout and a long run. As you've said, you don't need much more than that. I am trying not to go crazy with mileage even though I want to run ALL the miles right now. Going to try to hover around my usual 85-95 I think.

I can tell when the St. George rush is on when I am at 96 miles and in 5th or 6th place on the mileage board and 4 guys are over 100 miles and they don't include you, Wesley Hunt, or Dave Holt.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.250.000.000.0012.25

AM: 7 miles slow. Calf felt fine, thankfully.

PM: 5 miles. Calf felt fine.

First day teaching at Philadelphia University. I picked up a class there and as it turns out I have 7 students in the class. If I wasn't working at the poverty level I would feel guilty about it, but it gives me a ton of time to work with students individually.

Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 7.00Saucony Ride 7 Miles: 5.25
Weight: 174.60
Comments
From Drew on Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 17:40:07 from 173.171.218.92

Nice! What are you teaching?

From Jason D on Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 18:23:24 from 68.80.27.222

It's a second year writing course, called "multimedia communication." It is somewhat different than what I usually teach, which is first-year writing.

In this course we focus on aspects of professional communication as well as the more traditional critical reading and writing.

Philadelphia University is an old textile school so it still features a good deal of majors that produce things (fashion is a fairly common major, as is architecture, and other kinds of built environment).

Walking around campus I was struck by how beautiful it is for a small campus. Lots of unique building and lots of trees. Has a much more New England rural campus feel than a city campus, but it also has a lot of old mansions converted to academic buildings.

My office is in Ravenhill Mansion, which is an old mansion converted to a girls' school where Grace Kelley went before the university bought it. It is straight out of Harry Potter.

From allie on Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 18:28:36 from 24.99.46.55

that's great -- good luck with the semester ahead.

i had 9 students over the summer and i loved it (and i work for pennies and dust balls myself so no guilt here!). i think 7-10 is the ideal size. i've taught classes as small as 2 and it was awkward (and yes, there was some guilt there). :)

glad your calf is behaving.

From Jason D on Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 18:33:04 from 68.80.27.222

7 is tiny for a writing class. A good cap is 18, which is what La Salle has and a cap at 20 is still decent. But the fact of teaching 3 classes with 43 students total instead of 56 sounds a lot better. I think 12-15 would be ideal for the top end of things but every student has to take this class.

2 would be very awkward, especially if one student missed a class :-)

From Rob Murphy on Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 19:36:34 from 24.10.247.181

That's a little bigger than your typical Utah high school class where we "stack 'em deep and teach 'em cheap".

37 in my smallest class.

From allie on Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 19:50:09 from 66.249.83.164

rob -- that's crazy

From Jason D on Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 19:51:58 from 68.80.27.222

High school teachers do have it rough. I couldn't teach the way I do with that many students.

I just did some math and a rough calculation of what your salary might be with what I assume your course load is and high school teachers are definitely under paid, which I already knew. My dad was a high school teacher and many of my family are teachers.

I am guessing you have something like 150+ students? As I recall my teachers had about 120, which is still a lot.

$3000 per class for a adjunct like me is "decent" money. The problem is that I can't teach more than two at La Salle and time wise I can't afford to teach more than 1 or 2 at Philadelphia University. For a starting professor in this area for the same field its an annual salary of about $50,000.

Teaching at a university is far preferable to teaching in the Philadelphia public school system.

From Rob Murphy on Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 20:05:07 from 24.10.247.181

I'm well aware of the challenges of breaking into a tenure track job at a university Jason and I feel for you.

I have 216 students plus my cross country coaching.

From Jason D on Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 20:17:05 from 68.80.27.222

That is incredible, Rob. I had no idea. We need good teachers, despite what all those whose actions suggest otherwise (I don't need to name names, parties, organizations, politicians, etc).

From SlowJoe on Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 17:37:22 from 45.18.50.53

Congrats on the job, Jason.

At least you guys sleep well at night knowing you are making the world a better place, shaping young minds, etc. right? I was just thinking the other day about how meaningless my job is now, in the big scheme of things. I'm a sellout, but strangely ok with it.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
13.000.000.000.0013.00

AM: 8 miles. Did some strides in the middle.

PM: 5 miles.

+ Stretching and core (late)

Newton Gravity LE Miles: 8.00Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 5.00
Weight: 173.60
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
11.000.006.000.0017.00

AM: 13 miles. 6 x 1600 on the track with 400 recoveries

This was a good workout for me. The weather was favorable and below 70 to start (not sure when the last run below even 75 was). I warmed up 3.75 feeling a bit sluggish but kind of knowing that I just needed some time to loosen up. I've been getting up much earlier than I did all summer so sometimes I am still half asleep on my warm up.

My goal was to run about 5:50-5:40 or roughly 10k pace, which I figured would feel much earier than 10k effort at this point. I decided to do these on the track and try to mirror the paces I did for my sharpening workout about 4 weeks ago but with a slower cutdown. Worked beautifully. I felt quite relaxed and my breathing was good. Legs weren't snappy, but that's what the first just-barely-sub-100-mile week will do to you the week before. I might have been too conservative at the start and I finish well, running hard but not trying to kill it. I took 400 recovies to make things simple but I tried to keep the recovery pace somewhat honest in ~2:10 average when I would typically do 1:45-2:00.

5:51.8, 5:50.6, 5:48.4, 5:46.1, 5:41.5, 5:38.5 (5:48 converted mile pace average)

Cooled down to 13.

PM: 4 miles easy. Beautiful evening.

In the last year or so I have discovered Greek yogurt. Over the last two months I discover coffee Greek yougurt. Sometimes for dessert I have a scoop of peanut butter then I eat yougurt, coffee or otherwise. Tonight I thought, "Viola!" I put the peanut butter in the coffee yogurt and it is amazing. #yourewelcome

Nike Zoom Streak LT2 Miles: 13.00Saucony Ride 7 Miles: 4.00
Weight: 173.60
Comments
From Bret on Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 12:59:44 from 216.234.133.229

Solid effort Jason. Nice weather is a good motivator too.

From Drew on Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 18:01:01 from 173.171.218.92

Great workout, Jason. I really like 6x1 miles @ 10k pace. I feel like that workout fits anywhere - from a 5k block to marathon training. It's completely solid, but doesn't leave you sore for days. Perfect execution on your part too.

From Jake K on Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 20:53:46 from 67.166.113.191

1. Great workout

2. I've come around on greek yogurt... really like using it in recipes... I use it when I make my kangaroo/kale meatballs for an extra dose of protein.

From Rob Murphy on Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 22:13:16 from 24.10.247.181

I think we all use Greek yogurt in our kangaroo/kale meatballs.

From Jason D on Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 10:09:40 from 68.80.27.222

Drew: I generally run the 6 x 1 mile around half marathon or 15k pace but in the middle of the week it usually feels about like 15k to maybe 12k pace (I also usually take no more than 2 minutes of jogging recovery on the roads). I was pretty relaxed on the first few. Not easy but just in cruise mode. It's one of my favorite workouts (next to the 8 mile MP tempo), which I typically do in marathon training. I can never get through 6 repeats in the summer because I don't readjust my expectations accordingly.

Jake: I didn't realize those were kangaroo balls (as I first read over your comment quickly) in the photo that you had posted before Chicago (?) going through TSA. I thought I was the only weirdo who packed special meals. My first thought was "Aww . . . my favorite animal!" Then I remembered that I get ticked a people who campaign against countries that eat horse meat with the tune "They aren't our food; they are our companions!" which is fine if you don't eat meat, but if you do, you have nothing to say. I know some people who are very attached to their cows.

The Sushi Nazi (a self-moniker) in Lafayette, Indiana make what he calls a Reggae Roll, which is a sushi roll with deep fried alligator and two different sauces. It's pretty amazing. It's pretty much the only thing I am looking forward to when I finally defend my dissertation this fall.

From allie on Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 18:30:27 from 24.99.46.55

i've never tried coffee greek yogurt, but it sounds like i need to. coffee + pb, even better. my favorite flavor, recently discovered this summer: toasted coconut.

nice job with the workout. perfect cutdown and strong finish.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
13.500.000.000.0013.50

AM: 8.5 miles easy. RHR 38.

I ran a flat section several times and only gained 56 feet, which I enjoyed the mundaneness off. That's a new PR for low gain in Philadelphia. Even my 4-5 mile afternoon routes generally have 200-350. Most 7-9 mile loops 500-700.

PM: 5 miles easy.

+ stretching and core (late)

Newton Gravity LE Miles: 5.00Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 8.50
Weight: 172.60
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
13.000.000.000.0013.00

AM: 13 miles. Aerobic progression through 10 miles (9:05-6:38 pace). Did a few strides in the last mile. RHR 39/40

Fairly tired. Just a short easy run tomorrow, then long run on Sunday with a slight decrease in mileage next week, likely just back to ~85 miles. I just don't want to get ahead of myself too early.

Saucony Ride 7 Miles: 13.00
Weight: 172.50
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.250.000.000.007.25

PM: 7.25 miles.

+ Stretching and core (late)

Newton Gravity III Miles: 7.25
Weight: 174.90
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
20.000.000.000.0020.00

AM/Lunch: 20 miles, averaged 7:54

Just under 80 degrees or so when I started and 88 degrees when I finished. No wonder I bonked so hard a mile 18. I decided to run back and forth on Forbidden Drive on the dirt and under the shade. It was a good move today. Averaged about 7:45 through 18 and lost a lot of time climbing up the hill and dragging my carcass the last two miles. Felt better than last week and clicked of some moderatish miles around 7:30-7:15 once I got going without consciously picking up the pace.

Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 20.00
Weight: 173.30
Comments
From Bret on Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 20:34:48 from 107.77.85.128

Miserable conditions for a long run - good job grinding through.

From Jason D on Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 21:13:36 from 68.80.27.222

I felt pretty good and it was fairly dry, but I was somewhat loopy after I got back and Megan was a bit worried. I knew I was fine but I was feeling a bit off. She saw me after Boston and on a day when I got lost my second day here. Post-Boston was fairly scary. Just very thirsty and tired.

I have now instituted a non-verbal system of communication with Megan.

Thumbs up means I'm fine just can't verbalize much and a thumbs down or collapse on the floor means I'm in trouble!

Looks like you have been knocking out some long runs as well.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.250.000.000.0012.25

AM: 7.25 miles slow. RHR 42.

PM: 5 miles slow.

+ Stretching (late)

Newton Gravity LE Miles: 5.00Saucony Ride 7 Miles: 7.25
Weight: 174.90
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.000.000.000.000.00

Day off. 25 days on. Unless I get anxious later and go out for a shorty.

Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
11.008.000.000.0019.00

AM: Flourtown Tempo Loop - 14 miles, averaged 7:38 w/ 8-mile MP tempo

Warmed up 3 slowly and my face was already covered in sweat. Temp spanned 70-80 degrees and the humidity went from 90-75%. Needless to say, I just wanted to get in my 8 miles at roughly the correct effort and not try to hit 6:20-6:30 because that is what MP usually is.

It took a bit to swallow my pride for my slowest 8 mile tempo in probably 2.5 years and I felt like pulling it pretty much every mile and during every mile I would tell myself to shut up and just maintain; you still get the stimulus by running at the correct effort. Fall is coming, just not today and probably not next week.

8 miles in 53:53

6:44, 6:47, 6:46, 6:47, 6:41, 6:43, 6:44, 6:41 (6:44 average)

The sock liner on my Rides folded around tempo mile 4, which was a pleasant feeling for the next 4 miles. Need to glue it in or chuck the liners.

PM: 5 miles. Felt good. Stride felt smooth and running felt effortless

Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 5.00Saucony Ride 7 Miles: 14.00
Weight: 174.90
Comments
From Jake K on Thu, Sep 03, 2015 at 09:48:11 from 199.190.170.29

Chalk this up as a poor man's altitude tempo run. It's a good stimulus aerobically, and it doesn't beat up your legs as much.

From Jason D on Thu, Sep 03, 2015 at 11:02:29 from 139.84.48.251

I did notice my afternoon run was surprisingly springy.

I have at least 2-3 more 8 mile tempos scheduled in addition to some big workouts with 8-10 at marathon pace (the 4-3-2-1 I did last fall, probably two long run combinations of 10 + 10). Plenty of time.

From Jake K on Thu, Sep 03, 2015 at 11:22:59 from 199.190.170.29

There's rarely anything wrong with doing the marathon effort runs a touch slower (esp due to icky weather) - marathon "effort" doesn't become marathon "pace" until the very end anyways. You have a couple months.

From Jason D on Thu, Sep 03, 2015 at 11:28:43 from 139.84.48.251

Exactly. For now I am content to picture myself, several pounds lighter, moving @ 6:10-6:15 pace with aplomb and grace (to use a phrase Bam once used) :-)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.250.000.000.0012.25

AM: 7.25 miles.

PM: 5 miles.

+ stretching and core (late)

Newton Gravity III Miles: 7.25Kinvara 5 White/Black Miles: 5.00
Weight: 172.40
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
13.500.000.000.0013.50

AM: 8.5 miles. Did a bunch of strides in the middle. One faster mile downhill ~6:30 pace.

PM: 5 miles.

+ light stretching (late)

Kinvara 2 White/Blue Miles: 5.00Saucony Ride 7 Miles: 8.50
Weight: 171.50
Comments
From Rob Murphy on Fri, Sep 04, 2015 at 19:16:46 from 24.10.247.181

Solid. Solid as a rock!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
13.000.000.000.0013.00

AM/Lunch: 8 miles.

PM: 5 miles with Megan.

Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 8.00Miles With Megan Miles: 5.00Kinvara 5 White/Black Miles: 5.00
Weight: 172.50
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.008.000.000.0020.00

AM: 20 miles, averaged 7:34 w/ 8-mile AT tempo in 51:32 (6:26 avg)

Hit the roads at a decent hour for me on the weekend (9:30) and even though it was cool at night it was still 70 out with dew point 63 and 70% humidity (which felt comfortable) and I knew it would warm up fast. Better than the last three long runs, but I'm still waiting for that fall air to kick in. I did end up running a solid workout. I was tired out the warmup, felt just ok for the first 3 miles, then really good for the next 3, then tired on the last two. My legs were fine and breathing solid. Just fatigued.

7 miles, then 8 miles @ AT, then 5 miles easy

6:34, 6:38, 6:28, 6:24, 6:22, 6:26, 6:24, 6:14 (6:26 avg)

Started to work out of the zone slightly in the last 1-1.25 miles. Legs had more to give, but my breathing was up even though it was still in control.

80 degrees w/ 42% humidity and 55 dew point when I finished. Nice but warm for running long still.

Kinvara 5 White/Black Miles: 20.00
Weight: 172.70
Comments
From allie on Sun, Sep 06, 2015 at 11:02:46 from 24.99.46.55

wow, really strong run!

From Drew on Sun, Sep 06, 2015 at 18:39:49 from 173.171.218.92

I like how you put your MP tempo in the middle of your long runs, Jason. That's a great workout.

From Jason D on Sun, Sep 06, 2015 at 19:36:36 from 68.80.27.222

Thanks.

I learned it from the blog primarily. My midweek staple is 3-4 up/8 tempo/3 down, which helps to prepare me for these.

I like to fit in a few long run workouts to break up the monotony of 20-23 milers. There is no other workout that better prepares you to run a marathon. Other than, say, 16.3 miles @ goal pace :-)

I tend to run my tempos progressively and work out of the zone (typically only in the last mile) just a bit earlier in a buildup. In the later stages (typically the last one), I'll hold back and get in tune with the effort and be honest with myself: is this really marathon effort? Do you want to speed up? If so, you are running the right effort if your pace is on target.

I'll mix this workout several ways and probably peak with a 8-10 moderate followed by 10 miles at goal pace. I'll also mix up the warm up and cool down. I've done a 5 up, 10 tempo, 5 down as well.

Today's warm up miles were slow (~8:15 pace), but that's okay. I've got time to bring it down closer to 7:15. I don't think I did a 20 miler last year until a week from now and I have 3 down, so I am rolling. I likely will cut my long run back a few miles and just spend some time on my feet next weekend.

From Snakemoney on Mon, Sep 07, 2015 at 03:22:43 from 155.91.45.229

Mr. Dodge,

I hit the pavement yesterday at 430 am to be safe and it felt great! And running in the road due to the lack of cars in north jersey was an added bonus. But...after my little 5 miles, I was soaked with sweat and had to walk a few miles back and got really cold. Wednesday 93 degrees, the last 90+ of the year for us North Eastern folk.

One of these days I will have to meet you at one of the local races in Philly or Jersey, or even pop over and join you on a run, albeit...your slow run.

I am part of the Fishtown (Philadelphia) Beer runners...they mainly just like to do short runs to the bar and then knock back a few (in the name of science). After, you are through with a marathon and if you want to drink a little and meet some cool Philly people...find their group on FB and join and every Thursday night they meet for a little run to the bar.

-Jake

From flatlander on Mon, Sep 07, 2015 at 07:18:56 from 76.31.29.220

Congratulations, that is a run for the big boys, especially with some high DPs still lingering in the air.

From SlowJoe on Mon, Sep 07, 2015 at 11:33:11 from 45.18.50.53

Rock solid, and I expect they'll only get better from here - nice work.

From Jake K on Mon, Sep 07, 2015 at 18:32:25 from 67.166.113.191

That's the bread & butter. Keep clicking these off.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.250.000.000.005.25

AM: 5.25 miles at a gentleman jogger's pace. RHR 44/45.

PM: Off.

Legs were heavy this morning but felt pretty good overall. Figured I would rest this afternoon and absorb yesterday's run. Absorbed a little food and beer for a department Labor Day party as well.

Newton Gravity LE Miles: 5.25
Weight: 172.60
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
14.500.000.000.0014.50

AM: 8.5 miles. RHR 44.

PM: 6 miles. Did 6 x 200 on the track in 37.3. Just tried to meet them and not kill them (Dad's golf driving advice).

+ Stetching and core (late). Need to get back into this routine. I was lazy last week but my schedule has really picked up

Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 6.00Saucony Ride 7 Miles: 8.50
Weight: 174.90
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.500.004.000.0014.50

AM: 10.5 miles. Workout of 4-mile LT tempo 

Saw what the conditions were outside (77/87%/73 DP) and thought I would jump on the treadmill. Walked outside and it didn't feel bad but I knew it would get uncomfortable quickly. Still, I thought to myself plenty of guys on the blog (Matt and Drew in particular) are slogging through workouts, barely slowing down and in worse conditions; you need to as well.

So I headed toward the track for an 8k tempo, but knew with the sun was coming out I wouldn't make it through, so I warmed up to Forbidden Drive and exhanged some shade for some rolling hills. It worked out fine. 4 miles was plenty today even though I felt like I should have pushed to 5.

Mile 3 was my turnaround and it has a slight grade just before that. Wore my HR monitor because I was planning to be on the treadmill.

3.25 up/3.25 down

5:55 (165), 5:58 (173), 6:11 (175), 5:47 (177) (5:58 average; 172)

Heart rate was fairly low overall. I'd like to get 5 miles in the low-5:40 range when it cools off and I get fitter. My best tempo last fall was 5 miles @ 5:48 average.

PM: 4 miles. Felt much better than I did around lunch time.

About an hour after I got home from my morning workout my GI gave me a serious thrashing. I felt ill, almost post-Boston ill but not quite. Layed on my side, extremely painful cramps. In and out of the bathroom. Took an Immodium. Either it or something else made me start to vomit. A fun morning wondering if when I got to my afternoon class if I would have to excuse myself. I stopped to get gas and drank a diet Pepsi and that straightened me out. That's what I did after Boston too. It has a strange effect on heat exhaustion.

Nike Zoom Streak LT2 Miles: 10.50Saucony Ride 7 Miles: 4.00
Weight: 174.70
Comments
From Drew on Wed, Sep 09, 2015 at 17:58:41 from 173.171.218.92

Another nice workout, Jason. With decent conditions your goal sounds very reasonable.

I have done my workouts in the humidity this summer, but I have not done a single tempo run once the sun was up. I have to do those very early. Intervals at least have some recovery. When you are running nonstop in the combination of humidity, heat and sun exposure it is impossible to maintain. I think you were wise to exchange some hills for shade.

From Jason D on Wed, Sep 09, 2015 at 18:34:39 from 68.80.27.222

It made a difference. Once I got in the sun, it zapped me. It might have take more out of me than I first thought. I ended up with serious GI distress all morning and got sick (either from the heat or the Immodium I took on an empty stomach). Felt good this afternoon though.

I don't tend to do many 4-5 mile tempos but they are very rewarding when they go well. I'd much rather knock out 6 mile repeats. But I love 8 mile tempos. Effort is different obviously.

From allie on Wed, Sep 09, 2015 at 19:23:21 from 24.99.46.55

yikes on the post-run distress, but nice job with the workout. glad you were able to bounce back pretty quickly. hooray for pepsi.

From Matt Schreiber on Wed, Sep 09, 2015 at 20:55:46 from 66.17.104.128

I'll have to remember the Diet Pepsi trick. Nice miles!

From Jake K on Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 15:33:52 from 199.190.170.29

Diet Dew, before AND after. You'll never feel sick again.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
13.250.000.000.0013.25

AM: 7 miles.

PM: 6.25 miles.

Megan and I went to a happy hour for the College of Liberal Arts and Sciences. I had two beers, which I was not going to do but they were free and there's a moratorium on alcohol for faculty events due to budgetary contraints from now on. So you can't really say no to these things. I had some brie and blue cheese and some other assorted snacks. Managed to run fine. It was cooler and rainy but still perfect shirtless weather.

+ Stretching (very late)

Newton Gravity LE Miles: 7.00Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 6.25
Weight: 174.20
Comments
From Jake K on Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 08:33:37 from 199.190.170.28

stupid budgetary constraints ruining all the fun!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
17.500.001.000.0018.50

Lunch/PM: 14 miles easy w/ 1 mile hard @ 5:34

Did the pickup mile around mile 10. Breathing was pretty good, but my legs just didn't want to turn over. That's what happens when you run 8:30-8:15 pace then try to drop 3 minutes+ per mile. I did another faster mile around 6:20-6:30 coasting downhill at the end.

I woke up this morning when Megan's alarm went off and thought I should get up even though I don't have to be anywhere. I forced myself back to sleep and woke up 2.5 hours later. I needed it. The last two nights I have been painfully tired.

PM: 4.5 miles easy

Kinvara 2 White/Blue Miles: 4.50Saucony Ride 7 Miles: 14.00
Weight: 174.10
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.500.000.000.0012.50

AM: 7.25 miles. Did some strides.

PM: 5.25 miles. Almost got smoked by a car that was paying too much attention ahead of it and not to where it was turning. #thatwasclose

+ rolling, stretching, and core 

Newton Gravity III Miles: 5.25Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 7.25
Weight: 174.40
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
18.000.000.000.0018.00

PM: 18 miles steady, averaged 7:08 or ~87% of goal marathon pace (6:13)

Plan was to do 18 miles easy, whatever that pace happened to be given that I have done 20 milers the last 3 weeks. Weather was cool at 73 and overcast.

I got moving up Germantown Ave and hit 8:00 for the first mile, which is pretty good considering 8:45 flat is my usual (often 9:00-9:30) so uphill this was decent. Weaved in around all the people out on a Sunday (bad time to do long runs). Decided to keep an honest effort for as long as I could handle. From about mile 5 until I came back up the hill I was running 7:00 flat to 6:40 with one 6:33 thrown in there.

I think this was the right effort for the day. I don't know. Basically 2 hours at a pretty honest pace.

Saucony Ride 7 Miles: 18.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From SlowJoe on Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 15:56:29 from 45.18.50.53

I'm a big fan of making my long runs count for something, versus just plodding around (when I'm physically capable to do so). Anyway, I like it.

Trying to figure out in my head what 6:13 goal pace gets you....is this when you take your shot at the women's OTQ?!

From Jason D on Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 16:15:12 from 68.80.27.222

6:13 is 2:43, so it's right there. I am just kind of thinking 10 seconds faster than last fall. 6:13 on my watch would give me about 6:15-6:16, which would still leave me sub 2:45.

Always hard to tell where you are going to land and I have a long way to go before getting down to ~6:15 but I think I can get there. I am running about 6:26 for 8 miles in the middle of a 20 miler and my best last fall was my final workout with 10 @ 6:23.

I think at this point in my running PRs are the goal but I'm putting myself in the mindset to train hard and set my goals fairly high. 6:13 pace is quite daunting right now but I am rolling.

I have an 8 mile AT wave tempo this week, which should work out to about 6:15-6:18 overall if I hit my paces. That should be a good check point.

From Drew on Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 17:48:53 from 173.171.218.92

I'd say 87% of goal pace is very good for 18 miles.

I'm definitely with Joe on making long runs count, especially when training for a marathon. When I ran 2:45, I was doing long runs of about 20 miles at about 6:55 pace, but that probably translates to a little higher average pace for normal people (I get worse the longer the distance).

Your approach is also much more mature than mine was at the time.

I do see a relationship between 5k-marathon time. Everyone is a little different, but I would want to see at least 45 seconds between 5k time and marathon goal time. I have a wider split between those points than true marathoners, though.

From Jason D on Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 19:22:25 from 68.80.27.222

Last fall I think I ran about 7:15-7:25 for my fastest regular long runs. My final long run workout ended up being 20 @ 6:48 (including 10 @ 6:23). This route today has a bit of up and down with a good climb at mile 17.

I generally predict based on a half marathon. Half x 2 + 10-11 minutes. That's about half pace + 25 seconds I think but the 5k plus 45 seconds works pretty much the same.

I have a 5k in October. I'm going to run sub-17 if it kills me. I have 1 more track workout to prepare for that. For the half I need to run about ~5:45-5:50.

From Matt Schreiber on Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 21:12:22 from 66.17.104.128

Good start to the week, I'd say. Definitely hard to let go of a good pace when you're rolling with it. Looking good Jason.

From Jake K on Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 09:17:24 from 199.190.170.21

Sub 17 or death. That's the right attitude for a 5K :-)

Good long run!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.250.000.000.0012.25

AM: 7.25 miles SLOW. HR 117.

Definitely earned the 10-minute miles today from yesterday. My legs were very heavy, so I just shuffled, which felt nice. Cool and breezy. Very fall-like conditions. Should be nice and comfy for the midweek workout. I'm doing an 8-9 mile AT wave tempo.

PM: 5 miles slow. HR 121.

Newton Gravity LE Miles: 7.25Kinvara 5 White/Black Miles: 5.00
Weight: 174.40
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.500.000.000.0012.50

AM: 7.5 miles. Did some strides. HR was off. Not sure why I didn't ditch it last time.

A little tired today but legs felt a lot less heavy. Should be ready for a workout tomorrow.

PM: 5 miles moderatish.

Felt like I was flying but only ran 7:40 pace, but I cut down from 8:45 to just below 7. That rarely happens. I guess the nice, warm and dry fall air had me feeling froggy.

+ rolling, stretching, and core (late)

Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 7.50Saucony Ride 7 Miles: 5.00
Weight: 173.30
Comments
From allie on Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 16:47:21 from 24.99.46.55

the last few days have been cool and dry(ish) here in ATL as well. definitely has me feeling more lively than usual.

From Jason D on Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 18:35:19 from 68.80.27.222

I'm somewhere between rejoicing and lamenting. I am ready for the cooler mornings, but I don't want to lose daylight and I enjoy the September sun. Today was perfect. Cool morning run, shirtless afternoon run.

I love fall but it's what comes after that always gets me!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.508.000.000.0014.50

AM: Flourtown Tempo Loop - 14.5 miles, averaged 7:24

Workout was an 8-mile AT wave tempo, given as 4-5% slower than AT and 3-4% faster, which worked out to about 6:32-6:35 and 6:02-6:07 or there about alternating miles. AT was based off my 10k time from August where AT = 6:17.

The workout went well even though it was quite hard. I expected as much because I usually do alternating ks at HMP/MP for 10k for my 10 day out marathon workout. I had to concentrate and my legs did not want to move. I didn't notice a ton of difference effort-wise between fast and slow in terms of breathing but I definitely had to get my arms moving, get my knees up, etc. The last two miles I was starting to accumulate some lactic acid, so I think my effort was about right.

Averaged just under 6:20 for the 8 miles (6:30.5 for slow/6:08.5 for fast)

6:40, 6:10, 6:29, 6:08, 6:26, 6:07, 6:27, 6:09

3.4 up/3.1 down

PM: Off. Trying to make this a cutback week given the week before last really wasn't.

+ rolling, stretching, light core (late)

Kinvara 5 White/Black Miles: 14.50
Weight: 171.70
Comments
From Jake K on Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 10:02:18 from 199.190.170.22

You are knocking off good marathon workouts consistently. Exactly what you were waiting for all summer, right? :-)

From Jason D on Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 11:23:07 from 66.227.95.240

Exactly! And it's still spanning the 60-degree range for these, which is fine with me; it doesn't need to cool down that fast.

I'm going to miss my leg speed once that starts to diminish though. I have a 25 x 400 @ 10k pace with 100 recovery next week and a 4 x 1 mile with 90 seconds rest (shooting for 5:23-5:25 average) the week after, so we will see how that feels. Hard 200s on the track helped last fall.

5 up-10 tempo-5 down on tap for this weekend. I'm so far ahead of last fall I'm a bit scared. Trying to cut my mileage back a bit this week to make sure I am being smart. It's hard though this time of year with perfect weather.

From Jake K on Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 12:05:40 from 199.190.170.22

60s is great weather. Obviously cool/colder is better for actually racing the marathon, but 60s is a really comfortable temperature for workouts that aren't quite as long and draining.

You'll keep enough leg speed with those workouts. If it comes down to a kick for the W-OTQ after the art museum, my money is on you!

200s were a nice staple for me back in some of my earlier marathon buildups. They did just enough to keep me feeling fast without being too taxing.

From Drew on Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 18:08:27 from 173.171.218.92

Great execution on that workout Jason. Being able to switch gears like that is a very good sign.

I have the LT wave tempo planned for tomorrow, weather permitting. It definitely helps motivation to see other runners knocking out their workouts.

From Jason D on Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 18:42:41 from 68.80.27.222

The LT version sounds very difficult, but I guess 1/2 mile on/off helps. I think I have that one on tap for 4-5 weeks from now. I'll probably do it on the track. I found today that trying to get my pacing with the watch ruined my concentration. I finally have (more or less) weaned myself off the watch for 8 mile tempos after the first half mile or so and then check the auto splits.

It's nice to get in some workouts I've never done. I tend to keep things mostly the same with a tweak here or there.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
13.750.000.000.0013.75

AM: 6.25 miles slow.

PM: 7.5 miles. Felt great.

+ rolling, stretching, and core (very late)

Newton Gravity LE Miles: 6.25Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 7.00
Weight: 171.70
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.250.000.001.0013.25

Lunch: 13.25 miles. Did a mile hard on the track at mile 11 in 5:26. Did 4 x 100 hard strides on the way home.

Didn't get out until just before noon. It was a very rough morning. The run helped a good bit though.

PM: off. Cutting mileage back this week.

Kinvara 5 White/Black Miles: 13.25
Weight: 173.30
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.000.000.000.005.00

PM: 5 miles. Did some strides.

That's it for today.

+ rolling, stretching, and core (very late)

Saucony Ride 7 Miles: 5.00
Weight: 173.30
Comments
From SlowJoe on Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 08:45:37 from 45.18.50.53

Week looks great, Jason - especially that wave tempo...super strong.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.0010.000.000.0020.00

AM/Lunch; Flourtown Tempo Loop - 20 miles, averaged 7:14

Big Workout: 5 up, 10 mile tempo, 5 down

10 mile tempo in 62:05 (6:13 average pace)

Warmup was "fast" easy at ~7:45 pace, straight into the workout. They are back working on the tempo loop doing some street milling so there were some rough spots but no workers given that it is Sunday. Not much of an effort increase throughout the workout but I did start to get tired after 8 tempo miles. I was able to keep it rolling and could have dropped the pace if I needed to but wanted to keep things under control as I was already running ahead of plan. I checked my pace until the half mile mark then only checked individual splits when the autolap went off.

6:23, 6:24, 6:19, 6:16, 6:13, 6:12, 6:14, 6:10, 6:13, 6:08

5 miles pretty slow (8:45-8:00) with a good chuck back up the hill to Philadelphia. I am very pleased with this to say the least. Effort wasn't super easy but it was managable and I dropped the pace without too much change in effort and finished strong. I expected to run around 6:20-6:22 pace and be satisfied with that.

Kinvara 5 White/Black Miles: 20.00
Weight: 173.30
Comments
From RileyCook on Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 12:22:37 from 73.52.134.194

Excellent builder! That fitness is sure coming around nicely. 6:13 is women's OTQ pace is it not? Which is a goal of yours?

From Jason D on Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 13:25:46 from 68.80.27.222

Today was the first day all I've felt like all the miles are kicking in. Things have been rolling pretty smoothly since August.

The women's OT standard is a goal of mine. 6:13 is 2:43 flat or 10 "watch" seconds faster than I ran last fall. I think I originally put it down as a goal when I started chasing 2:45-2:50 the last two marathons. I set it as a goal because it seemed a good time to work toward, knowing that running faster than that and eventually trying to break 2:30 will take me the rest of my life and I still may never get there. I'm happy to see what I can do between now and when my eventual stopping point is though.

From Bret on Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 14:40:04 from 216.234.133.229

Nice job Jason. Very solid - good confidence builder.

From Jake K on Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 15:23:22 from 159.212.71.25

Really strong.

If you feel like you are on the brink of the W-OTQ, will you shave your legs before the race?

From Drew on Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 17:52:58 from 24.73.66.122

Wow, you have jumped right into the deep end with your marathon workouts! That's a great long run.

From Jason D on Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 00:17:41 from 68.80.27.222

I have to ask Megan, Jake. I can't grow chest hair, so I may have to leave it. It should also be cold (it was still 70 degrees when I did this workout. A fall-like 70 though).

I tend to look pretty good on paper in the fall, Drew. Last year I started rolling about this time. I don't generally drop 13 seconds per mile off 8-10 miles at marathon pace of a 20 miler in 2 weeks though. I was pleasantly surprised, almost in disbelief, when I started splitting 6:10 and 6:12. I started sprouting peacock feathers shortly after though.

I've only broken 6:20 pace for an 8 mile tempo run once and it was a mistake. I ran 6:10 average with a friend on a Monday and likely ruined what would have been a more significant PR when I ran 1:17:25 in the half on Saturday (I ran 6:10 for 8 miles on Monday with 14 total at 6:40 and 5:54 pace for 13.1 on Saturday).

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
14.750.000.000.0014.75

AM: 7.25 miles slow. Felt pretty good.

PM: 7.5 miles not quite as slow.

Had to add on a few miles for de-stressing. Managed to run my recovery pace and not get too charged up. Worked beautifully.

Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 7.25Saucony Ride 7 Miles: 7.50
Weight: 174.40
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.250.000.000.0010.25

AM: Off. I was up until 2:00 working on course prep after doing online tutoring late last night. Decided I would sleep in this morning as I have been extremely tired, more tired than I've been in a long time. Mileage is a contributing factor, but I'm just not getting in a solid 8 hours, which I need whether I am running or not.

PM: 10.25 mile easy. Did some strides.

Kinvara 2 White/Blue Miles: 10.25
Weight: 172.70
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.000.006.000.0018.00

AM: 14 miles. Springside Track Workout. 6 x 1600 w/ 400 recovery jogs

I had an excellent workout today. I'm running a good deal faster than I ever have, which is good. I was going to do 25 x 400 @ ~10k pace but I'm just not sure about that workout. It sounds good for keeping the legs sharp but I am not sure it can tell me much about my LT. On the other hand, a set of mile repeats is a workout I've done in the past and it gives me a pretty good sense of what I can handle in a half marathon and for other workouts such as 4-5 mile tempos and 4 x 2 miles (which I will do in 2-3 weeks).

Warmed up 3.75 feeling just okay, did some strides on the straights, then went straight into the workout. Plan was 5:46-5:36. I ended up running the following splits

5:40, 5:37, 5:37, 5:38, 5:38, 5:35 (Averaged 5:37)

My watch got caught in the net with 300 to go on the last one, splitting the lap but I managed to think to just keep going and split at the 1600 mark and add. I'm glad the net didn't snag my watch worse.

I ran the last two without checking my lap timer (much easier to do on the track than the tempo loop).

Cooled down 3 miles slow.

PM: 4 miles.

Nike Zoom Streak LT2 Miles: 14.00Saucony Fastwitch 7 Miles: 4.00
Weight: 171.70
Comments
From Jake K on Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 18:16:19 from 159.212.71.199

Call me crazy, but could the endurance gained from marathon training be blending nicely with the fast stuff you did over the summer? :-)

From Jason D on Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 23:54:24 from 68.80.27.222

It's almost scary!

From now on, summer is about 5ks, progressive paced track workouts (work into it, don't blow up) and old school fartleks.

From SlowJoe on Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 01:10:10 from 107.77.100.27

Man, you are on fire! The timing seems great as well.

What do you mean your watch got caught in the net? I just sat here for like 5 minutes wondering if this is an actual, physical net it was "snagged" in, and how that was even possible, or if it was like a net (overall) mode of the watch, or if that's just another way to say it was having an electronic freakout and was doing its own thing. I hoped I could just congratulate you on an amazing workout and move on, but no...WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

From RileyCook on Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 01:13:38 from 73.52.134.194

This new level of fitness is exciting!

From Jason D on Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 01:29:26 from 68.80.27.222

It's an actual net that keeps balls from flying into the track. They are on the ends of football field. Got a bit too close today.

I'm still trying to figure out how it hit the lap button. Better than the stop button! It put a little stutter in my step. I wanted sub-5:30 on that one. Have to wait for next week. 4 x 1 mile, 90 seconds rest, shooting for 5:25-5:20. Whelp!

From Jake K on Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 01:45:32 from 67.166.113.191

I figured the watch was trying to sync to a wifi signal or something like that and kept bugging out. And then I though about Sandra Bullock, and now I want to watch The Heat again.

From SlowJoe on Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 01:16:39 from 107.77.100.27

Thanks for the explanation, a physical net would not have been my first guess. Log it as an obstacle run.

From allie on Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 01:40:16 from 24.99.46.55

you're rolling! it's great to see it all coming together for you.

joe -- i was wondering the same thing. i read through this last night and then decided not to say anything while i contemplated the net. the net...

the heat!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.250.000.000.0012.25

AM: 5 miles slow. Feel tired but good.

PM: 7.25 miles easy. Had a Sasha-approved nap this afternoon. I haven't been getting in my naps during the week.

+ rolling, stretching, and core (very late).

Need to fit these sessions in earlier. As September has got crazy I just haven't been able to fit in my auxillary stuff. Usually I say that and I'm lazy about it but I've been going to one campus to the next, tutoring online late in the evening (or early morning), grading and prepping for teaching, and trying to get the last chapter of my dissertation written. Job market stuff is rolling in to. That's an impossible endeavor. Running is going extremely well and my more rigid schedule is to thank for that. Some mornings and most evenings I can barely see I'm so tired though.

Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 7.25Saucony Ride 7 Miles: 5.00
Weight: 172.50
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
11.251.001.000.0013.25

Lunch/PM: 13.25 miles.

I pulled something in my back when I pulled my shirt off to weigh myself this morning. Mostly just stiff and uncomfortable. Did notice it running other than turning to look for traffic.

Did a mile pickup on Forbidden Drive in 6:27. The GPS was hindered by the tree cover. Did a fast downhill mile in 5:42 through traffic, over sidewalks, and on cobblestones. Not the safest idea but I survived.

Just kind of a blah run. Should have just slowed down and enjoyed it. Not that most of it was that fast but I woke up pretty tired still even though I got a good night sleep. Need more good nights' sleep in a row.

Saucony Fastwitch 7 Miles: 13.25
Weight: 172.50
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
13.500.000.000.0013.50

Lunch/PM: 8.5 miles. Did some strides.

My breathing on the recovery was very labored for running 5:10-5:00 pace for 35-40 seconds at a time. Probably #ipaphlemn. Not so much out of breath as not getting the normal volume of oxygen (if that makes any sense)

Back felt stiff in the night and this morning but it's fine to run (as near as I can tell) and it's loosening up now. I can still knock out my pushups, so it's fine. Running with Megan this afternoon. We only have 5 miles together for the month of September. I think we will get more this fall with the cooler weather.

PM: 5 miles with Megan.

Newton Gravity LE Miles: 5.00Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 8.50Miles With Megan Miles: 5.00
Weight: 174.00
Comments
From joebell1981 on Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 17:12:45 from 99.39.133.24

Wow - great week, Jason!

From Jason D on Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 17:31:06 from 68.80.27.222

Thanks, Joe. I'm feeling very fit and just crossing my fingers that I make it through the buildup. My mileage is only slightly above normal and I have geared back my easy day pace a ton.

Things are crazy busy right now but somehow it's fueling my running rather than hindering it.

Sorry things didn't go well for you today. Hope things straighten out to give you a solid PR this fall.

From allie on Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 19:34:08 from 24.99.46.55

i had to study that hashtag for a little bit, but i got it. good one. :)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.009.001.000.0022.00

AM/Lunch: Flourtown Tempo Loop - 22 miles, averaged 7:08

4-3-2-1 Workout (The "Easy" Version)

Decided I didn't want to run 23 miles today at 7:00-7:30 pace so I decided to do an the "easy" version of the 4-3-2-1 to get some volume with a sensible dose of quality while taking long enough recoveries to get the volume up but also decrease my recovery time between this workout and the next. Good thing. I could not have run the harder version of the workout with recoveries denoted in minutes corresponding to the number in the set (4 minutes after the 4 mile set, 3 minutes after the 3 mile set, etc)

6 miles easy: 8:47, 7:57, 7:46, 7:40, 7:36, 7:53

4 miles (avg. 6:25): 6:32, 6:28, 6:22, 6:16

1 mile @ 7:11

3 miles @ MGP (avg. 6:14): 6:12, 6:18, 6:12

1 mile @ 7:25

2 miles sub-AT (avg. 6:07): 6:06, 6:08

1 mile @ 7:57 (getting tired)

1 mile @ 5:49

3 mile cool down with a lot of uphill: 8:15, 8:24, 7:54

The first set felt comfortable but the start was somewhat slow. Decided to work into it. The workout was harder than I thought today but I had a little wind, I am tired, and my mileage is up about 7-10 miles per week over most buildups.

Oh, and I hit the 3000-mile mark! Historically, I have hit it on October 20 (last year) and October 11 (in 2013).

I'm fine with today's workout. I should put this down as a positive even though I wasn't overly pleased. I wish it felt easier even though it wasn't super hard until the last mile. My back is very stiff from compensating for the pulled muscle or whatever it was so I am trying to find my heating pad to work on that.

PM: Megan and I went for a walk. It was nice to walk through the neighborhood. A little over 3 miles. I'll try to make this a habit.

 

Saucony Fastwitch 7 Miles: 22.00
Weight: 174.00
Comments
From Bret on Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 13:35:25 from 99.1.220.106

Nice workout Jason - I like it. If nothing else, it breaks up the long run volume into focused segments.

From Jake K on Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 16:21:16 from 67.166.113.191

I think this is a very good sensible/easy/hard longrun/workout. You don't need to be drilling this on minimal rest right now... let your body absorb it all... you have plenty of time/workouts ahead of you.

From Jason D on Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 16:40:59 from 68.80.27.222

That's one of the reasons I like long runs such as these, Bret.

Jake: I've had the feeling that I may be pushing too hard overall (or at least I might be heading that way) even though I am taking 2 recovery days, running easy days very slow at times, and I feel good.

I had the hard 4-3-2-1 workout on the schedule for next Sunday but I may need to think about that and maybe move my 4 x 1 mile off 90 seconds rest to this Friday just to make sure I'm getting my rest and not pushing too hard. I still have 8 weeks.

From Drew on Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 06:44:19 from 24.73.66.122

Great workout, Jason. You're not old like me, but one story - last November I was in very good shape (like you are now) when I strained my back. I ran a couple of hard workouts in the following days and got a nasty hamstring strain from compensation. It set me back almost a month. Just something to be careful of.

From Jason D on Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 09:47:24 from 68.80.27.222

Thanks, Drew. I've had that worry in the back of my mind but haven't been acting on it.

I think running hard is probably causing it to remain tight, so I may need to adjust a bit.

From Jake K on Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 16:29:55 from 159.212.71.17

I had a similar thing happen, Drew (and Jason). Had a random/weird back spasm right before the TOU marathon in 2012, while I was reaching to adjust my shoes or something like that. Fifteen miles later my hamstring started to cramp/strain due to compensation for whatever I did... and now three years later its finally getting better :-)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.250.000.000.007.25

Lunch: 7.25 miles.

PM: off. No time. Just can't get it all in. Back is stiff compounded no doubt by stress and tension in my shoulers. Not sure what I'll be able to get in tomorrow morning. Depends on how late I am up tonight and whether I decide I need more sleep more than a morning run.

Saucony Ride 7 Miles: 7.25
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Rob Murphy on Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 18:21:54 from 24.10.247.181

Just back off and listen to your body. You've been hitting it pretty hard lately.

From Jason D on Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 21:08:04 from 68.80.27.222

I appreciate it, Rob. I've been trying to do some self-reflection the last 3-5 days and I am not sure I'm doing it very well. My tweaked back was from pulling off my shirt (imagine!), but that's how things sometimes set off a chain reaction.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.500.000.000.0012.50

AM: 5.25 miles. A few really light strides just to get the knees up and the hips stretched out. 

+ light stretching

Back/neck still a bit funky. Loosened up the muscles a bit by having Megan walk on me. My problem is the base of the neck/top of the back. If I could afford it I'd have a chiropractor throw me around a bit. 

PM: 7.25 miles. Did some strides. Nasty humid and soggy. Clouds no help.

Newton Gravity III Miles: 7.25Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 5.25
Weight: 175.30
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.506.000.000.0013.50

AM: Treadmill - 8.5 miles.  Did a short, moderate progression. (RHR 39)

10 minutes @ 8; 10 minutes @ 9.0, 9.1, 9.2, 9.3; 10 minutes @ 7.5 (my stomach was on the threshold of revolt)

Got quite a bit of sleep last night but could have slept all day. Did this run on the treadmill for a change of pace and the humidity and dew point is not something I feel like dealing with at the end of September. Skipped my actual workout today and move it to Friday depending on how I feel and how my easy runs go. Back is still tweaked but it feels fine. Mostly just annoying.

PM: 5 miles. Got dinner on the table for Megan and then headed out for some cool, rainy headlamp miles. 

This marks a month mileage PR by about 18 miles I think. Definitely my first 400 mile month. 

 

Mizuno Musha Miles: 8.50Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 5.00
Weight: 172.40
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.500.000.004.0014.50

AM: Springside Track - 10 miles.

4 x 1 mile @ 5k pace with 90 seconds rest. I planned this for yesterday but moved it to Friday. Moved it again to today because it is supposed to rain and be quite windy. Another day would have likely helped me hit my times but it just wasn't going to work.

Goal was to hit 5:25 for the 1600s but I fell a little short. Warmed up 3.5 w/ 800 meters @ MP. 

5:25, 5:27, 5:30, 5:32 (5:28.5)

This is not how you want to run this workout but I fought hard at the end. Legs just got very tired. I was breathing full race effort in the last 800 meters as I was trying to run no slower than 5:30 and I think the first 800 of the last rep was 2:47.

This puts 5k pace at 5:30 but hopefully faster in better weather and better legs. About 9 seconds faster than my 6 x 1 mile reps, which sounds about right.

This is probably the hardest workout I do and I probably need to do it more than 1-2 times a year. I'll roll with this for now but I was certain I could run it faster. 

A few things to consider: up until 2:00 last night doing work, ate too late last night, mileage is high, workouts have been stellar, it's marathon season not 5k season, this puts 45 seconds between estimated 5k pace and marathon goal pace.

PM: 4.5 miles @ Gentleman Jogger pace

+ Rolling, stretching, and core (very late)

Newton Gravity LE Miles: 4.50Nike Zoom Streak LT2 Miles: 10.00
Weight: 174.10
Comments
From Jake K on Thu, Oct 01, 2015 at 10:03:11 from 159.212.71.173

I think if you re-read the last paragraph and then realize you were only 3 seconds off the "A" goal, you should be happy with this. You were working really hard, that's the main thing.

From Drew on Thu, Oct 01, 2015 at 10:11:42 from 24.73.66.122

Yep, this is a workout you'll look back on in full context and be happy with.

From Jason D on Thu, Oct 01, 2015 at 10:38:31 from 139.84.48.251

I already feel pretty good about it. I felt really sloppy during the workout and I ran a bit harder yesterday than I should have given that I ran this hard today.

The goal was somewhat arbitrary given that I wasn't shooting for 5k effort (whatever that means!). I imagine my next set of mile repeats and my half tuneup of 4 x 2 mile will feel pretty effortless.

The last paragraph has an implied "Dear Jason" rather than "Dear Faithful Reader" :-) It's a hard workout mentally and physically. I'd rather do a 20 miler with an 8 mile tempo in the middle any day!

From SlowJoe on Sat, Oct 03, 2015 at 10:08:34 from 107.77.100.95

Excellent! That is indeed a really hard one to make it through...

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
13.000.000.000.0013.00

AM/Lunch: 8 miles. Character buidling weather.

PM: 5 miles. Dark, cold, windy, and rainy.

Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 8.00Saucony Ride 7 Miles: 5.00
Weight: 172.40
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
14.250.000.000.0014.25

Lunch: 9 miles.

I think I'll move my long run to Monday. Plan was to do 22 tomorrow, but I put down a 10 mile tempo for Wednesday so I may just do some combo of 10 + 10 (mix to be determined). That will give me an extra recovery day, which I think is a good idea even though I feel solid. I've been extremely routine this buildup and not just doing long runs whenever I feel like it.

PM: 5.25 miles. I had my first honeycrisp apple of the season after my run. It was glorious enough to report here.

A cutback week coming up with shorter easy days Friday and Saturday to see if I can run something respectable in the 5k. I don't want to cut back too much but I want to absorb some of this training.

Newton Gravity LE Miles: 9.00Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 5.25
Weight: 172.40
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.250.000.000.0010.25

PM: 10.25 miles. Did some strides.

+ rolling and stretching very late (2AM). Up late doing online tutoring, class prep, email stuff etc.

Saucony Ride 7 Miles: 10.25
Weight: 172.40
Comments
From Rob Murphy on Mon, Oct 05, 2015 at 05:45:35 from 24.10.247.181

I'm trying to think of the last time I was up at 2 am doing class prep…. Never!

From Jason D on Mon, Oct 05, 2015 at 10:54:52 from 68.80.27.222

Ugh. . . part of it was my fault for not getting stuff done earlier, but I am trying to finish my dissertation.

I picked up this online tutoring gig for some extra hours and I just added a few hours on the weekends (18 hours a week total). Although it's a few hours here and there during the week and only 3 hours on Saturdays and 4 hours on Sundays it really cuts into the weekend (which is always sprinkled with some sort of work anyway).

How do you learn 250 students' names, Rob? I have 44 our of a total cap of 56 for three classes and that took me about 4-5 classes to get them all straight. Next semester I am looking to pick up another class so I will likely have 76 or so.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.0010.000.000.0020.00

AM: Flourtown Tempo Loop - 20 miles, averaged 7:03

Did 5 up, 10 progressive tempo, 5 down

10-mile tempo in 63:02 (6:18 pace)

6:28, 6:27, 6:22, 6:22, 6:20, 6:13, 6:14, 6:15, 6:11, 6:10

I couldn't get the legs turning over to start, but I was pretty releaxed and my breathing was good. Worked my way down and tried to stay patient and focus. The last two weeks my focus has been everywhere and it is tough to focus on my running while I am in the moment. The last part of the last mile I was out of the zone a bit.

Not as fast as my 62 minute 10 mile tempo a few weeks ago but overall run pace was faster and I have more mileage in my legs. This is still very close to 6:15 goal pace and last year most of my 8 mile tempos duing mid-week medium long runs were a few seconds slower than actual marathon pace last year.

I didn't get a full night's sleep last night, but I think I can fit a nap in after teaching this afternoon and whatever fun the evening holds for work.

Saucony Fastwitch 7 Miles: 20.00
Weight: 172.40
Comments
From SlowJoe on Mon, Oct 05, 2015 at 18:56:14 from 107.77.100.95

Excellent, Jason. Getting really close to a breakthrough marathon it seems like... Cruising relaxed at 6:18 is a big deal.

From Jake K on Mon, Oct 05, 2015 at 19:07:07 from 67.166.113.191

Excellent work as usual.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.250.000.000.007.25

AM: off. Didn't get to bed until almost 3:00AM.

PM: 7.25 miles. Gentleman Jogger Pace. Beautiful weather now that the rain is gone.

+ rolling, stretching, and core (very late)

Kinvara 5 White/Black Miles: 7.25
Weight: 173.50
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
14.250.000.000.0014.25

AM: 8.25 miles. Some light stretching.

PM: 6 miles. 5 w/ Megan. Beautiful fall afternoon.

Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 8.25Miles With Megan Miles: 5.00Saucony Ride 7 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 173.50
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.000.000.000.000.00

Day off. 36 days on. Decided today was a better day to take off than tomorrow or pushing it too far on the schedule.

+ Rolling, stretching, and core

Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.000.001.001.509.50

Lunch - 9.5 miles. Sharpening Workout

1 Mile in 5:41
4 x 400 in 76.1, 78.5, 78.2, 76.2
2 x 200 in 34.5, 34.9

400 recovery after the mile, 200 after everything else. Felt solid on the tempo mile even with some wind and temps back into the mid-70s, which I somehow am already no longer used to. The first mile made me wish I was going a 4-5 mile tempo. I am pretty sure I would have held that pace for 4-5 miles, especially if I kept it where I started (~5:45). Hoping to keep everything in the 5:40s this Halloween at Rock and Roll.

The 400s left me pretty gassed, which was a bit surprising but I haven't really touched anything under 5:25 pace other than some strides. I still have some leg speed from this summer but it took a bit to get my butt fully firing. The 200s were fairly solid.

PM: Didn't get out again. Completed a mostly revised draft of my dissertation though. Not sure how much time will be required but I defend Friday November 13. I'll be glad to have it done.

Saucony Fastwitch 7 Miles: 9.50
Weight: 174.70
Comments
From allie on Fri, Oct 09, 2015 at 18:52:24 from 24.99.46.55

cool -- not too far off! good luck with your defense.

also, great workout and good luck with the 5k.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.750.000.000.0010.75

Lunch: 6.25 miles, somewhat moderate. Did a few strides.

PM: 4.5 miles. Almost punched a car that tried to deliberately hit me, but then remembered the city is full of guns and people who use them.

+ stretching. Should be in bed because I have a race in the morning, but I got done my work fairly late. Looks like a nice cool morning and a flat course. Plan is just to run hard, race, and push it.

Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 6.25Saucony Ride 7 Miles: 4.50
Weight: 174.70
Comments
From allie on Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 19:11:52 from 24.99.46.55

i'm glad you didn't get hit.

i'm probably going to get into trouble someday, because i tap on the backs of cars a lot -- at least 1-2 times a week. the really bad ones get a harder whack to increase the startle factor and wake them up to the reality that their phone preoccupation just might kill someone someday. a lot of times the driver will look me right in the eye and then go anyway.

From Jason D on Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 19:31:59 from 68.80.27.222

It was dark out, but it was a non-busy intersection and I turned to flash my headlamp to show I was crossing. It looked like I was in the clear. I heard the engine and a few quick beeps and they cut in at me. It was pretty clear it was intentional.

Did you have such persistent problems in Utah?

From Rob Murphy on Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 19:35:44 from 24.10.247.181

I once slammed a big chunk of cement with rebar sticking out of it onto the hood of a Chevy Monte Carlo on Pinehurst Ave. in Dunedin, Fl.

It was very satisfying. Car load of drunks throwing beer bottles at me on a run.

From Drew on Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 20:15:35 from 173.171.218.92

Jason, good call. Florida is an outlier, but still...don't underestimate your fellow human.

From allie on Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 20:22:30 from 24.99.46.55

it's far worse in ATL, but we live right downtown so every running route has a lot more traffic, stop lights, and general city chaos.

rob - ha!

From Rob Murphy on Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 20:23:16 from 24.10.247.181

I was only 21 at the time and kind of dumb.

From Jason D on Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 22:17:10 from 68.80.27.222

Rob: Jake briefly made reference to it once and at one point I was going to bring it up but didn't know if you would want me mentioning it where your runners might read it (just in case). But I'm glad I now have the full story!

I basically said my "peace." Well, I started to berserk a little and started running down the middle of a more crowded street before I snapped out of it. Lost myself for a moment. The run also took me out of my easy zone for a time. I prefer to run 8:30+ or faster than 6:30. Oh well!

Allie: this is technically in the suburbs, but it's basically the same thing with trees. You couldn't pay me enough to run in Center City (downtown). Except during races. It's pretty good then.

Race: Erdenheim Community Day 5k (3.107 Miles) 00:17:08, Place overall: 2, Place in age division: 1
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
11.100.000.003.1014.20

AM: 10.2 miles total.

Erdenheim 5k in 17:08. No sub-17 but it was a nice PR (about 20-25 seconds) and I hate 5ks. Measured the course long, going through 5k in 16:57 but I take it that the course was accurately measured as it was done by a local running coach. It's always hard to put down 5k PRs because I never run certified ones and you have to be honest with yourself about the distance. 3.14 seems pretty legitimate. 

Warmed up ~1.75 with Megan and we got out bibs. I ran the course with Jonathan. It was closed and well marked. Some slightly inclines that ended up slowing me down more than I would have like and many turns. I did two strides and my legs were alive! I got out fast and Jonathan was still ahead. I figured I couldn't beat him but I could use him as a target.

Breathing was not bad at 1 mile but my legs were wishing we were running marathon pace. Around mile 2 Jonathan increased his lead and continued to do so for the rest of the race. My watch split slightly early before 3 miles and I knew at ~16:28 I was going to be close. When I first could read the clock I saw 16:48ish and I dug in but I was too far out. I ran as hard as I could after the turn into the finish (about 5:00 pace on a slow, gradual incline) and didn't quite get sub-17 but this was a good race for me on a fair if slightly slow course. I haven't raced in 2+ months and I'm coming into form.

Cooled down a little bit with Jonathan talking his ear off and trying to decide if I want use the women's OT group and rabbit as a slightly distant target for Philly. That might be slightly too fast but I am seeing indications of running between 6:10-6:15 pace but I will have to work into that. I do not go out ahead of pace for a marathon. Buildups are too long and effort filled to worry about 10 seconds per mile in the first 2 miles.

5:21, 5:31, 5:33, :41 (.14, ~5:00 flat). Maybe could have gone out a little slower, but I don't think it was reckless.

PM: 4 miles.

Miles With Megan Miles: 1.75Kinvara 5 White/Black Miles: 4.00Saucony Fastwitch 7 Miles: 10.20
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Jake K on Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 12:09:04 from 67.166.113.191

Yeahhh buddy! That's a nice chunk of the old 5K PR. Happy to see you rolling along like this.

From Drew on Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 16:03:46 from 173.171.218.92

Awesome race Jason! That's a huge breakthrough and it seems right in line with the improvements you've made in training.

From SlowJoe on Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 19:28:43 from 45.18.50.53

WOW!

Blown away man, great job. An unquestionable huge PR - congrats.

From butlerbrunning on Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 19:38:50 from 104.52.197.67

Pr is a pr takem when you get them. Great race..Keep after it.

From Matt Schreiber on Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 20:09:43 from 66.17.104.128

Nice race and PR Jason! Looking like a good fall coming up!

From Jason D on Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 21:57:13 from 68.80.27.222

Thank, guys. I have been chasing sub-17 for a little while now. Admittedly, I tend to forget 1) how hard 5ks are 2) that 5-10 second improvements are excellent. I just think 16:XX sounds so much better than 17. I'm definitely happy with the race.

I think this will translate well. I am not a good 5k runner and the half marathon is my best distance. I think I should be up for a nice chunk off the half PR in a couple weeks assuming everything goes well. I'll know better when I run my 4 x 2 mile workout on Friday or Saturday.

Cheers.

From RileyCook on Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 16:33:00 from 172.56.16.217

Congrats on the PR! Great job, that sub-17 will come eventually.

From Rob Murphy on Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 17:55:09 from 24.10.247.181

Excellent! You will certainly break 17 within the next year.

From jtshad on Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 12:53:37 from 141.221.191.225

Great race! Training is really showing up in your race results.

From Jason D on Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 16:28:06 from 68.80.27.222

Thanks, Jeff. I'm doing pretty much the same thing I have been doing with a few differences:

1) slightly higher mileage (maybe 6-10 miles per week, fairly consistently)

2) more consistent, almost religious, long runs (every week, usually a 20 on Sundays)

3. Running my easier runs even easier. I used to run an average of ~8:30 on recovery days and 7:45-8:15 on regular days. My maintenance days are rarely faster than 8:15 and recovery days will sometimes be slower than 9:30 pace.

Add these changes to another year of running under my belt and it's paying dividends.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
14.750.000.000.0014.75

AM: 9.5 miles. Beautiful fall morning. Feel pretty good. Legs definitely went hard yesterday, but they are mostly just a little tight.

PM: 5.25 miles.

+ light stretching and core (very late)

Saucony Ride 7 Miles: 9.50
Weight: 174.50
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.000.000.000.0010.00

AM: Off. Slept a little bit and crammed for teaching.

PM: 10 miles.

+ Rolling, stretching, and core

Saucony Ride 7 Miles: 10.00
Weight: 174.70
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.100.008.000.0020.10

AM: 16 miles total. 4 up, 3 down.

Big Workout: 4 x 2 miles on the track w/ 600 meter recovies (3:20 jogs); Averaged 5:46 for the 1600 intervals or right at 5:48 goal pace

Repeat 1: (5:47, 5:45)

Repeat 2: (5:47, 5:48)

Repeat 3: (5:47. 5:45)

Repeat 4 (5:45, 5:44)

Pleased with this one. Effort was getting up there at the end. I had to do a slight bit of weaving more or less throughout, so I gave back just a few seconds overall but nothing too significant.

My legs are still tired from my race, so I will take this as a good sign. It's a PR for the workout by at least 6 seconds per mile average.

PM: 4 miles by headlamp.

 

Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 4.00Saucony Ride 7 Miles: 16.10
Weight: 172.40
Comments
From Bret on Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 09:47:38 from 216.234.133.229

Really nice workout Jason - very consistent and solid. Envious of splits like that.

From Jake K on Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 10:13:26 from 159.212.71.69

Dialed in on this one. Nice work!

From Jason D on Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 20:47:34 from 68.80.27.222

It's a workout I have quite a bit of history with, as well as success completing and running at the right effort. I think this is perhaps the 6th time I have run it in 3.5 years. I usually meet but have often exceed the interval pace for 13.1 miles. When I first did the workout in April 2012 I think I ran ~7:10 average. Since then I've been running it around 5:55-6:10. Before my half PR March 2014 I ran 5:54 (same for the race).

From joebell1981 on Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 13:09:59 from 108.59.48.1

Wow - Looking really strong, Jason! Awesome 5k PR, also!!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.500.000.000.0010.50

AM: Off.

PM: 10.5 miles. Cool, but sunny. Almost cold down on Forbidden Drive in the ravine.

+ Rolling, stretching, and core (very late)

Saucony Ride 7 Miles: 10.50
Weight: 173.70
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.000.000.000.0010.00

Lunch: 10 miles. Did some strides. My favorite time of year on Forbidden Drive.

PM: Off. Getting some work done. Mileage is fine. I'll likely do a 20+ tomorrow given that I rearranged my workouts this week. Big workout next weekend, a half the next weekend, and then things are already going to start winding down just a bit.

Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 10.00
Weight: 174.70
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
21.000.000.000.0021.00

PM: 21 miles, averaged 6:57.

Did 1 miles easy, then 20 miles steady (~90 % of marathon GP for 21 miles) over the rolling dirt on Forbidden Drive. About 15 miles of dirt. Got down to low 7s for the first 6-8 miles, then 6:50-6:25 until mile 18 or so before I hit the big hill headed home.

I came down with a cold, so this was probably not a fantastic idea but it's mild. Effort was definitely moderate. Energy dropped here and there but I had enough energy to keep going. I'll take it at the end of a 100 mile week, weighing 175 #^*%## pounds.

Saucony Fastwitch 7 Miles: 21.00
Weight: 175.30
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
9.000.000.000.009.00

PM: 9 miles. Felt good after yesterday's long effort.

+ Stretching (very late)

Kinvara 5 White/Black Miles: 9.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From allie on Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 14:57:49 from 24.99.46.55

that was a great effort yesterday...a good sign when you bounce right back like it's nothing. you are putting in some intense stuff these days and it's clearly working!

From Jason D on Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 22:54:13 from 68.80.27.222

I'm learning to run my recovery runs even slower. It used to be that if I ran much slower than 8:30 for a recovery run I would wonder what happened. Even though today I ran 8:40 I just went with whatever pace felt comfortable. The last time I did a steady long run I was dead the next day. I ran about 9:45-9:50 pace, which is fine with me. Somehow a 20 miler with 8-10 MP miles beats me up less!

From allie on Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 16:20:58 from 24.99.46.55

that's the reason i stopped using a garmin -- i wouldn't keep my easy days easy because i would get too caught up in the pace. it definitely hurt my recovery.

i don't time my easy runs anymore -- whatever pace my body wants to go, that's what i run. that means plenty of 9:00+ miles. :)

From Jason D on Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 21:41:13 from 68.80.27.222

I've been running a bit faster than 9 overall the last 2 weeks because the weather is cooler, but from June to the end of September I had many runs that were 9:15-9:45.

"Whatever pace my body wants to go" is the way to go. I turned my autosplit back on but I don't speed up accordingly. I'll often use it to make sure I am running slow enough. One bit of feedback every 8-10 minutes is okay for me. Having my pace displayed all the time for easy runs isn't.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
14.500.000.000.0014.50

Lunch: 8.25 miles.

PM: 6.25 miles. Feeling chilly. Back up into the uper 60s and low 70s for a few days.

+ Rolling, stretching, and core (late)

Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 6.25Saucony Ride 7 Miles: 8.25
Weight: 173.10
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.000.000.000.0010.00

PM: 10 miles. Did a couple strides to finish up.

Hodge-podge run due to the detour on Valley Green. Mix of roads, trails, dirt, rocks, creek crossing. Ruined my rhythm and I really didn'y feel like running on rocky trail today. Ended up being a good run.

Megan and I are off to Center City to walk around and eat. We didn't have much of a fall break. Philadelphia University doesn't have a fall break, which I've never seen from a University.

+ Rolling, stretching, and core

Newton Gravity LE Miles: 10.00
Weight: 172.10
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.756.002.000.0018.75

AM: Flourtown Tempo Loop - 14.5 miles, averaged 7:14

6-mile aerobic tempo in 38:10 (6:22 avg.)

6:20, 6:22, 6:22, 6:19: 6:24, 6:23

3 minute recovery jog

2 x 1 mile w/ 2 minute recovery jogs

5:45, 5:52

Weight was down this morning so I knew I was dehydrated. I can usually just pull through but today was a struggle with my cold slightly lingering. It was hard to run 6:20 pace today and I almost pulled it. I was going to continue to 8 and finiah that way but I decided to jog after 6 and try to finish the workout as planned, which was 6 tempo then 3 x 1 mile.

I was breathing a bit too much after the 6 miles, but the first mile repeat was pretty good considering I wasn't able to get my tempo miles down to <6:15 as I wanted. The second repeat was harder. I decided I had had enough for the day and it is time to focus on rest and hydration before the final big workout on Saturday, which will likely be a 10 + 10 shooting for 6:15 pace or faster for the second 10 miles.

PM: 4.25 miles.

Saucony Ride 7 Miles: 4.25Kinvara 5 White/Black Miles: 14.50
Weight: 170.30
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.250.000.000.0010.25

AM: Off. Up late doing work and need to sleep a bit. 

Is racing a hard half too hard 3 weeks out from a marathon? I've done them 4 week out with the final big workout 3 weeks out. The schedule this fall necessitated switching the weeks.

PM: 10.25 miles easy.

Darkness fell and I didn't have my headlamp. I made sure to pick up my knees to avoid any grabby sidewalk gremlims that might want to take me down.

+ Rolling, stretching, and core. To be around midnight for once in quite some time

Saucony Ride 7 Miles: 10.25
Weight: 173.30
Comments
From Ben VanBeekum on Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 08:32:25 from 199.190.170.24

In years past I always loved racing a hard half 3 weeks out. I always mixed it in with my last long run. 3-4 miles to warm. Hard half. 3-4 miles to cool for 20 to 21 for the day. I think the overall key though is to properly recover afterwards.

From Jason D on Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 10:55:08 from 139.84.48.251

Thanks, Ben. Just making sure I'm not doing too much. I typically do a workout on Friday after a hard half (much sooner and it doesn't go well), but I think I will skip that weekday workout and just do my last 18 miler the next weekend.

From Jake K on Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 11:08:37 from 159.212.71.77

You said what I was just going to suggest! :-)

You are in that rare/awesome situation where PRing in the 5K, Marathon and anything in between is all on the table right now. Let it rip... but then let yourself recover. Don't try to squeeze anything extra (or something pre-planned) into that week. Give yourself 5-6 days of easy mileage... soak in the hard effort and then let it rip again a couple weeks later.

From Jason D on Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 11:25:00 from 139.84.48.251

The no workouts until at least Friday rule was created based on one of our longish conversations. It took me two horrible tempos on Wednesdays late in a buildup after a hard half to learn that though.

I've written it into my list of running imperatives called "Thing Jason Should Never Do."

I think if we get solid weather I should be able to run a good PR in the half. I missed my chance this spring (wasn't in that good shape) and I missed last fall with a humid day and then an ill-chosen bike path/trail race half.

From Jake K on Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 12:05:11 from 159.212.71.77

Yeah, I think it boils down to "what am I getting out of another workout other than checking a box and delaying recovery"? And that's a hard question to answer!

A solid half will build confidence. You are rolling right now, so ride the momentum.

From Bam on Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 12:34:52 from 89.126.28.24

Jake, so you don't think if he races a half (flat out) three weeks before his 'A' marathon, it will impact negatively on the marathon?

I get what your saying about PRing from 5k up 1000miles but it's rare - from what I've witnessed - for somebody to be in good half shape (if they're going to run a decent marathon)3 weeks out from a marathon; it just doesn't tally in terms of the energy systems. plus, to smash up a half 3 weeks before a full will defo leave residual microtrauma, especially if he's going to run 18 miles a week after.

But I guess time will tell...

From Jake K on Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 12:41:51 from 159.212.71.77

I guess it could go either way...

To be honest, my advice probably comes more from the "have fun and run hard when you feel like it" philosophy that I currently follow more than the "follow sound physiological principles" philosophy that I used to (unsuccessfully) attempt to follow.

Ultimately whichever way you decide to go, Jason, don't second guess it.

From Bam on Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 13:10:41 from 89.126.28.24

That makes sense, Jake. And, Jason probably will PR over the half and the marathon, which would be a great 'takeaway' from this block of excellent training.

It's just that I think he'd 'walk away' with a substantially better PR if he were to do his hardest session - something around MP (20 miles with 16 miles @ 10 secs slower than mp) - this weekend (4 weeks out) and then next weekend, when he plans to do the half, run it as a training run only 10-15 secs faster than mp - with a decent warm up and cool down. This would create the 'energy funnel' - his body would want/need to run at mp over the full distance - if he were to get the fuelling and pacing right; also, he could enjoy it too:)

From Jason D on Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 14:22:00 from 68.80.27.222

John: I should write a longer response but for now I hope it doesn't seem that I didn't like your advice so I shopped around elsewhere. I was primarily looking to see if folks might say "I ran well but think it compromised my effort." I hope you know I value your advice and take it to heart. I feel this might seem a bit of a slight.

I don't think I could hold to fast MP plan in a half. It's too hard for me not to race. It's a cutback week as well. As for the 18 miles two weeks out, it could be 16-17. Last year I bumped it to 18 from my typical 16, mostly for mental reasons.

My half PRs are usually off marathon training as are my 5k PRs. September was really marathon specific. 50 marathon pace miles! That's a ton, given 35 is probably a previous normal. I think I've got enough marathon specific stuff in Oct too. I was tired at 21 miles last weekend but I was still running close to MP and could have gone on. I think my consistent long runs will get me though. I really focused on getting them every week. Time will tell I suppose.

From Bam on Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 14:42:54 from 89.126.28.24

Jason, not at all - I think you're right to ask around and listen to what others have to say. I do that all the time.

I think you'll be fine racing the half 3 weeks out: you've a great mix in this block of training.

I suppose maybe where I'm coming from is that my approach is different to many on here in that the guys I look after tend to have a specific 'A' goal and everything is geared towards that from 6-12 months out - nothing gets in the way/compromises the 'A' race.

I was reluctant to give advice when you asked - I knew you'd want to hammer the half. But don't let my thoughts impact your plans. You're in great shape and all things being equal, you'll run well in both races. If I could place a bet - I'd bet on 2 good PR's:)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.750.000.000.0012.75

AM: 3.5 miles. Had to be on campus early.

PM: 9.25 miles, somewhat moderate.

Skipped strides because I couldn't see the ground as it was dark. Broke in a new pair of Nike flats, which I like. I never thought I'd like Nike but my last pair worked well even though they are ripping. They have the feel I want for 5k-half racing.

+ Rolling and stretching (very late)

Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 3.50Nike Zoom Streak LT2 White/Orange Miles: 9.25
Weight: 173.20
Comments
From flatlander on Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 05:51:29 from 76.31.29.220

I was in Philadelphia today (had an energy panel speech at Wharton), thought of you but then I realized that would be the turtle and hare scenario, with the hare winning.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
12.009.000.000.0021.00

AM/Lunc: Flourtown Tempo Loop - 21 miles, averaged 6:48

Final Big Workout for Philadelphia Marathon

10 miles brisk @ 7:00 average

9 miles @ 6:17 average

6:16, 6:17, 6:14, 6:15, 6:14, 6:18, 6:17, 6:23, 6:18

2 mile cool down

The workout went well. It didn't feel as effortless as my workout 3 weeks prior to Philadelphia last year but after more mileage and just under 100 miles average for the last 2 weeks, I pleased with this. I think last year I only ran 5 miles the day before and I ran 13 miles split yesterday with my evening run fairly late and uptempo for my typical easy run. I also ran the first 10 a bit faster than necessary. My first mile was 7:36. If I run an 8:36 first mile on easy days it probably means I had an extra cup of coffee.

Plan was to do 10 tempo but I decided to pull the plug at 9 because I started to head back to Philadelphia on the sidewalks, which never works out well with people turning into strip malls. I hit a head wind and shut down the tempo at 19 miles and dragged by tired butt another 2 miles up the hill and walked it in as I did last year.

Miles 16-19 felt pretty much like miles 18-26 of a marathon. Temps were 50-57, which felt decent if a but warm for this bigger runner (weight is not even making sense).

Last year I did 8 + 10 + 2 and ran 6:48 overall with 10 @ 6:23 and 8 @ 7:15. I think I only ran 5 miles the day before last year too. Running 70 minutes modertately around 5:30 last night loaded the legs a bit as was my plan.

Goal for Philadelphia will be 2:48-2:43. A-goal is sub-2:45. I think I need another buildup to run 2:42-2:43.

Maybe a walk later if I can fit it in.

 

Saucony Fastwitch 7 Miles: 21.00
Weight: 176.00
Comments
From SlowJoe on Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 18:12:43 from 45.18.50.53

Getting caught up - you are a machine lately! Amazing block of training recently, including this run.

From Jason D on Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 19:05:41 from 68.80.27.222

It's been an even better fall than last one, and I've definitely had added work and stress so it's been a nice alternative. I've been able to run a bit higher mileage and I've done consistent long runs. I counted eight long runs of 20+ miles. I think I did 5 last fall.

I'm hoping I can run 2 decent PRs in the next 4 weeks to see it all pay off.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.300.000.000.005.30

PM: 5.3 miles with Megan.

Miles With Megan Miles: 5.30Saucony Ride 7 Miles: 5.30
Weight: 173.30
Comments
From Ryan Achatz on Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 19:30:03 from 67.2.18.165

Thanks for your comments. i have been watching your blog lately and I think that you are ready for a couple or huge PRs in the next month. I think that you can run a sub 2:40 next month.

From Jason D on Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 21:53:11 from 68.80.27.222

Thanks, Ryan. I think based on workouts I can run as fast as 2:43 unless I discover some race day magic and run sub-75 in the half this weekend. My best guesses are low-1:16 in the half and sub-2:45 in the marathon if everything goes well. I'd be open to being surprised (in a good way) though!

From allie on Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 16:49:53 from 24.99.46.55

you'll likely be running right near my teammates, morgan and bridget. i'll be hanging out about mile or so behind you. :)

From Jason D on Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 16:56:36 from 68.80.27.222

Do you know their bib numbers? I don't want them to beat me :-)

I know you can handle the cold but it is supposed to be in the upper 30s, which is perfect for me, but they might want to prepare accordingly. The air can have an oddly chilly and damp feeling in fall and winter.

From allie on Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 17:09:55 from 24.99.46.55

good to know. high 30s is definitely glove weather, at least for me.

i don't know their bibs yet but they are both going for the OTQ.

From Jason D on Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 20:13:14 from 68.80.27.222

I'd love to try to hang with them, but I don't think I can handle that pace out of the gate.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
13.500.000.000.0013.50

AM: 8.5 miles

PM: 5 miles. Did a few strides.

Newton Gravity LE Miles: 5.00Newton Gravity III Miles: 8.50
Weight: 173.70
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.000.002.000.0010.00

AM: Off. Tuesdays are tough to get to bed early enough to get the proper amount of sleep this semester. Sharpening workout this afternoon.

PM: Flourtown Tempo Loop - 10 miles, averaged averged 7:24w / dress sharpening workout

2 x 1 mile (2:30 recovery jog) + 5 x 30 second strides

5:45, 5:43

Felt okay. My legs weren't quite firing and I wasn't super relaxed but I could feel another gear in my legs when I was running ~5:35-5:40 for a good portion of the second repeat. Lost time on both on the final roller as I always do. I think with a sensible start I can run this pace once I get going assuming my legs smarten up in the next three days. I've missed some stretching and rolling sessions, which hasn't helped.

+ stretching (very late)

Nike Zoom Streak LT2 White/Orange Miles: 10.00
Weight: 173.70
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
11.500.000.000.0011.50

AM/Lunch: 6.25 miles easy in the wind and the rain.

+ stretching

PM: 5.25 miles easy in the wind and the rain.

+ light stretching

Tapering down a little bit. Short singles the next two days. The weather looks ideal on Saturday. Last year's Rock and Roll was in September, 70 degrees at the start and humid and I still managed 1:18:30 with side stitches. I am in far better shape, so I better come in several minutes ahead of that. Any significant half marathon PR I have set has been below 40 degrees. I guess most of the half marathons I have run have been below 40 degrees.

+ Rolling, stretching, and core

Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 5.25Saucony Ride 7 Miles: 6.25
Weight: 173.70
Comments
From Jake K on Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 16:40:34 from 159.212.71.69

Man, the race not only moves from mid-September to Halloween, but from Sunday to Saturday too? The pope really did a number on the Philadelphia fall calendar!

Good luck this weekend... the cards are lined up nicely for you.

From Jason D on Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 18:21:55 from 68.80.27.222

Yep. Changed the course too!. It's ~98% the same.

I think the city is probably still recovering. His visit was quite an ordeal from my understanding. I went nowhere near it.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.250.000.000.006.25

PM: 6.25 miles. Did some strides.

Newton Gravity LE Miles: 6.25
Weight: 172.80
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.500.000.000.004.50

AM/Lunch: 4.5 miles. Did a few 1 minute pick ups around 6 minute pace, plus 2 strides. I feel pretty good.

Kinvara 5 White/Black Miles: 4.50
Weight: 173.00
Race: Philadelphia Rock and Roll Half Marathon (13.109 Miles) 01:16:02, Place overall: 107
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.000.0013.000.0019.00

Rock and Roll Half in 1:16:02.

Missed my A goal by a few seconds but I'm pretty happy with my time. It's a PR of a minute and twenty seconds. I may have run too conservatively the first 10 miles but the effort felt about right and I wasn't really able to get much of a next gear until the final 5k, which I ran at 5:43 pace, splitting mile 13 in 5:38, which I guess is something to be proud of even though it suggests I might have had a bit too much left. I hit the finish line pretty wiped though. A full report to follow.

An Allie Moore sighting but I would have had to cross plow a bunch of skinnies to get over to her. And I didn't have anything clever planned to say. Looks like she ran well.

2.5up/3.5 down

REPORT

I have run this race three years in a row and the course is kind of special to me. It was how I started to learn the layout of Philadelphia in 2013 before I moved here. I came to see my wife before we were married and ran the race, hoping to break 80 minutes for the first time. I ran 1:17:50, a PR of I think 4 minutes or nearly that. Last year I ran 1:18:36 with temps in the low 70s and high humidty. Although that bummed me out, I knew I was fit. With the Pope in town the same weekend as the race, it was moved to this weekend. It worked out well because I am fitter and closer to my marathon.

Typical race morning, but too dark for me! I managed to not pee in the bushes of the Rodin Museum this year but I marked a tree in an open park (hey, it was dark). Warmed up 2.5 Kenyan style (very slow, 10 minute first mile). Felt very good, told myself, "We are going to have a good day today." Did some light dynamic stretches followed by strides.

Got into the corral and looked around for Allie. I did see her in the first few hundred meters but she was on the right-hand side so I stayed where I was. I found myself in a pack of women elites, thinking maybe I might run with them. Some fell back early so I concentrated on my effort. First mile was ahead of plan but it felt solid in 5:45. My pace was way weird in between buildings (first time with a GPS on this course).

I felt like the first few miles I wasn't able to turn over even though my cadence was (and is) high. Too slow in those mile maybe other than mile 1. Started to pick it up around mile 5 or 6, still feeling good but waiting until mile 9, which turns back down Martin Luther King.

I started digging in for those final miles and I might have run them faster I don't know. Effort was about right. I've redlined from the gun before and every mile you think your legs will lock up at any minute.

Ripped off a cheeky little 5:38 for mile 13, watching the clock in the distance tick away at high 1:15. Had I started kicking a quarter mile out I would have had it.

The rich chocolatey goodness:

Strava

Garmin

5:44

5:45

5:57

5:58

5:41

5:58

5:56

5:58

5:49

5:44

5:45

5:44

5:46

5:48

5:49

5:58

5:57

5:53

5:43

5:36

5:44

5:39

5:40

5:51

5:38

5:38

34

33

 

Nike Zoom Streak LT2 White/Orange Miles: 19.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Tom K on Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 12:36:55 from 66.87.123.66

1:20 PR is fantastic! Looking forward to the rich chocolatey goodness! Great job!

From Rob Murphy on Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 13:34:19 from 24.10.247.181

Extending the string of PR's!

It's a good thing you didn't talk to Allie. She's completely unapproachable.

From Jason D on Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 16:11:33 from 68.80.27.222

Thanks, Tom. The rick chocolatey goodness has left its mark on my legs (a little sore already, which never happens). Some unprecedented splits strung together, which I will post later.

She was *literally* not approachable given the bodies (and we were moving). But yeah. A totally unapproachable person otherwise as well I can only assume.

From Ryan Achatz on Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 18:28:48 from 63.155.114.65

AWSOME! Too bad you didnt break 1:16

From Drew on Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 19:38:16 from 173.171.218.92

Congratulations, Jason. It's awesome to see your hard work, dedication and deliberate training paying off in races.

You took a big step up today- keep it rolling!

From SlowJoe on Sun, Nov 01, 2015 at 11:25:24 from 107.77.72.32

Not a single mile over 6:00, great job as usual -- hard work paying off!

From Bret on Mon, Nov 02, 2015 at 06:34:26 from 107.19.189.181

Great race Jason - congrats on the really nice PR.

From jtshad on Mon, Nov 02, 2015 at 07:50:58 from 141.221.191.225

Congrats on a big PR and very strong run!

From Sasha Pachev on Mon, Nov 02, 2015 at 15:25:01 from 192.168.1.1

Congratulations on a PR!

From Ben VanBeekum on Mon, Nov 02, 2015 at 17:24:14 from 199.190.170.21

Thats a great honest race. Awesome PR and even more cool that it's in the middle of a Marathon training cycle.

From Jake K on Tue, Nov 03, 2015 at 11:23:12 from 199.190.170.22

Comment attempt #2...

1. Awesome race. Not surprised given how well you've been running, but really impressed!!

2. That last 5K... not far off where your 5K PR stood a few weeks ago. Hammering!!

From Jason D on Tue, Nov 03, 2015 at 11:39:14 from 139.84.48.251

Thanks, everyone. I was pleased with the result. Hoping for a good marathon PR in 2.5 weeks.

Jake: I ran a few "hidden" PRs in there, including 10k (35:42), 15k, and 10 mile. They don't count of course but it's still pretty cool. The 10k was the final 10k. The first 10k was ~36-low I think.

Not sure where the faster miles in the beginning were but I was glad to get them in at the end. Based on some mile repeat sessions I knew I was capable of running high 5:3Xs if I wasn't completely locked up.

From Jake K on Tue, Nov 03, 2015 at 11:42:33 from 199.190.170.22

Seems like you ran it perfectly, in a way that shows you are probably more marathon ready than HM-ready (good sign) and by having something in the tank at the end (instead of going out too hard and blowing up) you should recover well and be ready to smash up that marathon.

Your run was a good lesson in the benefits of even/negative split racing.

From Burt on Tue, Nov 03, 2015 at 12:00:47 from 174.17.242.127

When a 1:16 gets you 107th place, you know the big boys came out to play. Which is totally not true, because they're all skinny little guys. and gals.

From butlerbrunning on Tue, Nov 03, 2015 at 18:11:44 from 104.52.197.67

Hey Congrats on your PR Jason and on a well run race..super strong... keep it up.

From Jason D on Sat, Nov 07, 2015 at 14:20:30 from 68.80.27.222

Thanks, guys.

Burt: I'm not huge but I am much much bigger than the ladies (and many dudes). At one point I had drop the pack of ladies I was with because they yelled "Kill the ogre!" :-)

From Burt on Sun, Nov 08, 2015 at 08:22:18 from 97.117.238.103

*like*

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.000.000.000.005.00

PM: 5 miles easy with Megan.

A little symmetrical soreness in the calves, slight tightness in the inner hamstring area but it felt good to run. A lot of easy running this week to absorb the half and go into the final 2-3 weeks of the marathon buildup. Feel pleased with my results from yesterday.

Miles With Megan Miles: 5.00Saucony Ride 7 Miles: 5.00
Weight: 174.80
Comments
From allie on Sun, Nov 01, 2015 at 18:41:15 from 24.99.46.55

congrats on a fantastic race yesterday. i'm bummed i missed you. i was actively looking around at the starting line but i didn't actually know what i was looking for (are you 6'11''? 5'5''?).

i really liked philly (and i was so happy the weather cooperated). we had some excellent food at lolita -- have you ever been there? worth checking out, esp if you like guacamole and c*rveza.

From Jason D on Sun, Nov 01, 2015 at 19:22:26 from 68.80.27.222

I was looking around for a group of ladies with matching kits but those groupings were everywhere.

I did not in fact see you after the start as I thought. I thought it was you in the yellow singlet because I was thinking of your Utah one.

I'll have to check out Lolita. We don't get down that way much. We live on the opposite side of the city (north west) about 8 miles.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
15.000.000.000.0015.00

AM/Lunch: 10 miles. Still a little sore.

+ light stretching

PM: 5 miles on the treadmill while Megan lifted.

Mizuno Musha Miles: 5.00Newton Gravity LE Miles: 10.00
Weight: 174.40
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.250.000.000.0010.25

AM: Off. Up late working. Slept in.

PM: 10.25 miles easy.

Saucony Ride 7 Miles: 10.25
Weight: 174.40
Comments
From Jake K on Tue, Nov 03, 2015 at 11:24:30 from 199.190.170.22

Good... sleep... rest! Be super smart this week and set a good example. And be ready to crush the 5K/HM/Mar PR triple crown :-)

From Jason D on Tue, Nov 03, 2015 at 11:33:42 from 139.84.48.251

Running easy is the plan. Probably a few too many miles yesterday on sore legs but I felt less sore during my run and after. Soreness is mostly gone today.

It's also 70+ degrees out and Sunny, so it's hard not to want to spend time outside. I do not in anyway feel like doing a workout, so I am not even tempted.

2 hour long run this weekend, 10 day workout in about a week, medium long run 1 week out, dress rehearsal. Nothing else but a sprinkle of strides!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
15.250.000.000.0015.25

AM: 10.25 miles.

Amazing fall day. Around 70 degrees and sunny. A leaf carpet on Forbidden Drive.

PM: 5 miles. Ran into Leo and chatted with and ran with him for a bit.

+ Rolling and stretching (very late)

Saucony Ride 7 Miles: 5.00Kinvara 5 White/Black Miles: 10.25
Weight: 175.80
Comments
From Bret on Wed, Nov 04, 2015 at 11:35:00 from 216.234.133.229

Having been there about 6 weeks ago - I have a pretty good mental image of the leaves on Forbidden Drive. Must be awesome to see - but a bit slippery or dangerous going downhill.

From Jason D on Wed, Nov 04, 2015 at 11:53:47 from 66.227.95.241

Slippery and they hide rocks, sticks, and so on. It was amazing out this morning. It's November 4!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
15.000.000.000.0015.00

AM: 4 miles.

Wanted to sleep in but still get a few miles. Realized I didn't have any bus tokens, so I combined my errand and my morning run, something I somehow rarely think to do. It was wet and humid for November 5.

PM: 11 miles.

Felt good. Light, fast, and free (And prone to cliches apparently). Maybe not exactly light. at least 4-5 pounds over racing weight. Too much stress eating. Calorie counting and diary-ing is not enough to tame the monster who lives in my right hamstring and whispers devilishly to me, "eat a few more fistfulls of cheerios and a few granola bars; you'll feel better about life."

+ Rolling, stretching, and core (very late)

Newton Gravity LE Miles: 4.00Saucony Ride 7 Miles: 11.00
Weight: 175.80
Comments
From Derunzo on Fri, Nov 06, 2015 at 04:36:29 from 98.229.177.205

You could be doing a lot worse than dry cheerios and granola bars.

From Jason D on Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 20:59:56 from 68.80.27.222

Who said the Cheerios are dry :-) ?

I suspect the ciders I have been ingesting aren't helping. Jack's. 5.5% and they are 100 calories (one or five is never enough). Tastes great too.

From Jake K on Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 06:39:17 from 67.166.113.191

Cider always helps!!!

I'm a big cider fan. Utah has good local beers but no one has gotten into the cider game yet. There's only one local variety and its sugar water. I like the dry, crisp varieties... which can be harder to find here... the store only stocks a few types. My favorite part of going to California these days is popping into Whole Foods and having 20 local ciders to choose from!

I'll have to see if my sister can find some Jack's in Maryland and bring it up to Connecticut for Thanksgiving.

From allie on Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 08:15:20 from 24.99.46.55

angry orchard is 210 calories/bottle, so your beverage choice could be worse. :)

jake -- i'm smuggling some good ATL cider into utah next weekend.

From Jake K on Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 08:20:43 from 199.190.170.21

Anything but the Paula Dean brand!!! I can't go from XS to XL with a wedding coming up.

From allie on Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 08:58:18 from 66.102.8.206

lol!

From Jason D on Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 10:05:17 from 68.80.27.222

The Jack's is dry. Get the green can. I'm not a calorie nut but I didn't grab the Orchard because it was so high. I do like it thought. Except the cinnamon.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
14.300.000.000.0014.30

Noon+: 10.3 miles. Did a few short strides.

PM: 4 miles. Shirtless again, but with my headlamp. That was weird.

Newton Gravity LE Miles: 10.30Kinvara 5 White/Black Miles: 4.00
Weight: 174.80
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
16.200.000.000.0016.20

PM: Germantown + Forbidden Drive O&B - 16.2 miles, averaged 7:10

Coach Bam said to keep it about 2 hours instead of my planned 18, which seemed okay with me. I've been hitting it pretty hard and I think all you need two weeks out is about 2 hours, maybe 2:10 on your feet. I was just under 2 hours with 1:56. Called it good at 16.2 to round my mileage off for the week.

Honest easy for most of it them picked it up running Forbidden Drive in a little over 35 minutes of just under 6:40 pace (started around 6:50 and dropped to 6:28). Not much of an effort change from 7:15 to ~6:30 and just went more or less by feel.

Saucony Ride 7 Miles: 16.20
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Jake K on Sun, Nov 08, 2015 at 08:41:34 from 67.166.113.191

Smart run!

Its all mental now... you've nailed the training part of all this :-)

From Jason D on Sun, Nov 08, 2015 at 18:23:28 from 68.80.27.222

Training was excellent this fall. I thought I couldn't beat last fall, but I think I did everything right by beefing up my consistency and dedicated my Sunday to long runs.

Usually at this point in a buildup I am ready to get things over with, but I feel like I am just getting started. Time to cut back, taper, run hard, take my week off, and do the same thing all over again.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.000.000.000.0010.00

PM 10 miles easy. 5 with Megan then looped around here and there.

+ Rolling, stretching, and core (very late)

Miles With Megan Miles: 5.00Kinvara 5 White/Black Miles: 10.00
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
14.000.000.000.0014.00

AM/Lunch: 8 miles easy.

PM: 6 miles. Did 6 x 200 on the track in 36.8 average to get the legs stretched out. Stride felt smooth and powerful.

+ Rolling, stretching, and core (very late)

Newton Gravity LE Miles: 8.00Saucony Ride 7 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 175.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.000.000.000.000.00

AM: Off. Might take the afternoon off too and put my day off in earlier than planned (Friday). I took off Saturday before the marathon last year just before my last longer run and doing so sooner before I really start to taper seems to work best. I'm 32 days on, which means I usually take a day whether I want to or need to or not.

PM: off. Felt good to rest. Got a nap in. Grumpy, which generally happens when I don't run.

(Weight 173.3)

Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
11.803.103.100.0018.00

AM: 13 miles, averaged 7:05. 10 Day Out Workout, 3.5 up/3.3 down. Few strides cooling down.

Well, 11 days technically but Wednesday is my "midweek workout get nothing else done in the morning day." Like last fall and spring 2013 I did a 10k wave tempo alternating ks @ HMP/MP. It's a difficult workout at this point in a buildup. It was around 60 and humid for November 11 with a little wind. Felt okay to maybe "just kind meh" but this is very typical. A day off yesterday didn't help but have me some rest so it helped overall. Stride felt clunky and had no turnover.

Goal was roughly 3:35 per k (5:46 pace) and recover at 3:55 per k (6:18 pace). Usually I will not be able to get down to my recent HMP and my MP will be too fast and as HMP gets slower MP gets faster. Not today, but I was on the track too. HMP intervals were consistent but MP was all over the place! My body was getting confused between a straight tempo and kilometer repeats. I'd start too fast or too slow then try to get on pace.

10k in 37:34 (6:03 pace) (5:50 for HMP/6:16 for MP)

3:37/3:50

3:37/3:52

3:38/3:57

3:37/3:58

3:38/3:50

PM: 5 miles.

Saucony Fastwitch 7 Miles: 13.00New Balance Zante Miles: 5.00
Weight: 174.50
Comments
From Jake K on Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 11:30:14 from 199.190.170.21

Good enough. Have a cider and look over the whole training block... its great! :-)

When I did this before Chicago last year I could only manage a 7 second difference between the 1K segment paces.

From Jason D on Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 16:20:01 from 68.80.27.222

I've looked over it a few times. It's been fantastic. Got the PRs I missed out on last fall due to outside factors and got in my long runs. I think I did 7 or 8 20+ and maybe only 5 last fall.

Usually I am ready to get the race over with but I have enjoyed my training a lot this fall. Lots of mile this year!

I think it was a matter of concentration today. Usually I cannot hold the same pace for the half marathon portions and marathon pace gets faster. Feel asleep on those. That's terrible pacing on the track. Right at goal pace though!

Given that you are a 2:20 guy 7 seconds makes sense. I can run about 25 seconds between marathon pace and half marathon pace. I think you are closer 15 seconds maybe.

From Drew on Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 06:59:54 from 71.99.88.184

It definitely does get awkward switching paces when it is 1k segments vs. miles or even longer.

Looks like a great workout from here.

From Jason D on Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 09:06:22 from 68.80.27.222

Drew: Similar to the Hadley 5 mile 800/800 you and your team does but 10k pace would be way too fast for this one and at this stage. I couldn't even tell you what 10k pace was currently!

I might try the 800/800 workout this spring, but I'll likely start with maybe 4 miles. I like the sounds of it better than doing 800s at 10k pace off of very short rest but I could see the benefits there too.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.250.000.000.006.25

AM: Off.

PM: 6.25 miles easy.

+ Rolling, stretching, and core (very late)

Newton Gravity LE Miles: 6.25
Weight: 174.50
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
13.250.000.000.0013.25

AM/Lunch: 8.25 miles.

The price on a pair of ISO Triumphs came down enough finally for me to try a pair. I am very impressed. I wanted a high mileage shoe for recovery runs, long runs, whatever runs. I picked up a pair of Rides a few months ago and they are too firm for as much cushion as they have and they are too inflexible and for faster runner I think makes my achilles work harder (a completely untested theory). The ISO Triumphs were fantastic on this first run. Cushy but not squishy! I now want a closet of them.

PM: 5 miles.

New Balance Zante Miles: 5.00Saucony ISO Triumph Miles: 8.25
Weight: 174.50
Comments
From Jake K on Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 11:23:46 from 159.212.71.25

I love the new triumphs, they are perfection. I don't know what I'm going to do if/when my sponsorship runs dry... the price is outrageous, but its the only shoe I want to wear 90% of the time!

From Jason D on Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 13:21:31 from 68.80.27.222

Are you running in the 2s yet?

I got these for $75, which seemed fair. I've been looking at them for many months, which is not something I usually do with shoes.

Very pleased so far.

From Jake K on Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 14:14:39 from 159.212.71.25

I haven't been able to get my hands (feet) on the 2s yet.

$75 is good. Sierra Trading Post has them on closeout now. I find them pretty durable... got about 700 miles our of my first pair, which I'm still using occasionally for short runs on grass.

I like Kinvara but these are better for winter when I'm doing more runs on road/sidewalks.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
13.500.000.000.0013.50

Noon: 8.5 miles somewhat moderate. George Bush run.

PM: 5 miles with Megan. We ran on Forbidden Drive and it was very dark even with the street lights and my headlamp. Not super smart given that it's a perfect place to get attacked even in the very upper-middle class neighborhood of Chestnut Hill. Very clear and crisp.

This might be my last double. I am ready to run a marathon and yet I'm enjoying my fitness. Medium long tomorrow, 2-3 mile tempo on Wednesday, and descending singles up to race day. It's been an excellent buildup after a fairly crappy spring racing season.

Miles With Megan Miles: 5.00New Balance Zante Miles: 5.00Saucony ISO Triumph Miles: 8.50
Weight: 172.50
Comments
From SlowJoe on Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 09:11:14 from 107.77.66.56

I think it's going to be a good one!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
13.100.000.000.0013.10

PM: 13.1 miles, averaged 7:35. Did a few strides.

+ Rolling, stretching, and core (very late)

Saucony ISO Triumph Miles: 13.10
Weight: 172.70
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.250.000.000.008.25

Lunch: 8.25 miles easy.

Broke 2014 mileage totals. I won't hit 4000 miles unless I get ambitious given my planned week off after the marathon but somewhere between current mileage and 4000 will be plenty. It's been a pretty good year. I just need one more solid race to cap it all off.

PM: Off. Taper.

Kinvara 5 Black/White 2 Miles: 8.25
Weight: 174.20
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.250.000.000.006.25

AM: 6.25 miles. Did a couple strides. Feeling pretty good.

PM: Hopefully a nap.

Saucony ISO Triumph Miles: 6.25
Weight: 173.10
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.003.000.000.008.00

AM: 8 miles. Did a 3-mile dress rehersal tempo in 18:58 (6:19 average)

3 up/2 down with strides

6:20, 6:22, 6:15

Wore my HR monitor for some stupid reason. I was in the lower 170s but I was already running ~145 for 8:40 pace. I tend to run my marathon workouts around 168-170 average.

I ran this on a flatloop in the next town over where I sometimes do my recovery runs. The loop was okay, but it is square and I lose time on the corners. The Flourtown tempo loop is much better even with its ups and downs.

The effort felt a bit high but pretty much how the first few miles of an 8-mile tempo feel when I'm not feeling absolutely fantastic. I'll try to lock into the effort I did last year and try to run as hard as I can. It's likely going to be windy, so I need to try to relax and not fight every split.

Kinvara 5 Black/White 2 Miles: 8.00
Weight: 173.10
Comments
From Drew on Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 11:19:48 from 24.73.66.122

"I need to try to relax and not fight every split."

That's such good self-advice, I just repeated it. Good luck this weekend Jason!

From Jason D on Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 14:37:14 from 68.80.27.222

Thanks, Drew. Last year at the start line I also told myself "We are going to have a good day today." It's hokey looking back to it now but it was helpful for me to focus.

From Jake K on Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 11:50:25 from 199.190.170.24

Hoping you get good weather and you wake up feeling good on race day.

You can't force this race... let it come to you, run smart like you've been training... you have set yourself up for a strong marathon!

From Jason D on Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 15:51:26 from 68.80.27.222

Thanks. I'm going to have to deal with some wind. Hoping for some of those 20MPH gusts to be at my back in the final 10k, which would mean a headwind from half to just before mile 20.

I've reread my race report from last year about what the first half should feel like. I'll stay back from goal pace and work it down. Hoping this wind will go away. Nothing to be done about other than respect it and not fight it if it holds

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.250.000.000.005.25

PM: 5 miles in the rain and semi-darkness. Completely soaked but I had fun and I'm feeling pretty good. On par with last year.

Bib #444. I guess I need to break 2:44:4x. Going to be some difficult winds I'm afraid. I'm not a good wind runner. Or a hot weather runner. Pretty much I'm good when it's 30-45 degrees, overcast, and calm.

+ Rolling, stretching, and core (very late)

Saucony Ride 7 Miles: 5.00
Weight: 174.10
Comments
From RileyCook on Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 17:29:04 from 73.52.134.194

Find some poor chap to tuck behind and draft away! It's amazing how much that can help.

Good luck this weekend. I'll be looking forward to the report. You've prepared well.

From Rob Murphy on Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 17:58:20 from 24.10.247.181

You often don't really notice the wind when you're racing.

Stay positive! Relax and don't think too much about the race. Find ways to disconnect and focus on something else. Go to a movie. Stay off your feet as much as possible and try to get some extra sleep.

From Jason D on Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 19:42:43 from 68.80.27.222

What I really need is someone, about 6-3 and maybe 200 pounds running low-6 minute pace to hide behind but something tells me I'm not going to find that :-)

I'll be grading and doing some online tutoring Saturday and tomorrow, Rob. Not really the way I want to take my mind off the race but it's got to be done! Strangely I haven't been completely preoccupied with it. Enjoying a little bit of rest actually. I've been getting in some extra naps and will have plenty of sleep the next few nights.

From flatlander on Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 05:23:05 from 76.31.29.220

Good luck, this could be a big one.

From jtshad on Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 08:47:40 from 173.198.176.201

Good luck and run strong. You are ready and can handle what comes your way as far as the challenges!

From Jason D on Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 11:21:18 from 68.80.27.222

I appreciate the motivation and kind words. They are helpful at this point when I'm thinking "26 miles is a long way to run . . . "

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.000.000.000.005.00

AM: 5 miles. Did some strides.

+ light stretching

Feeling pretty good! Still on par with last year. Not feeling stale but not 100% full of fire. I think I'm pretty much there though. Strides felt good and I got down to 5 flat pace or a little under without really jumping on them.

Kinvara 5 White/Black Miles: 5.00
Weight: 175.00
Comments
From Bret on Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 13:41:55 from 216.234.133.229

Good luck this weekend Jason.

From joebell1981 on Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 14:53:25 from 99.39.133.24

Awesome build up, Jason. Can't wait to see you crush it! Good luck, man

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.000.000.000.004.00

AMish: 4 miles easy with 2 one-minute pickups around marathon pace. Did two short strides in the parking lot to get the knees up.

I feel good. I haven't felt stale during the taper. Not so fresh that I feel like I couldn't control my pace, but my legs are moving above a shuffle.

Weight is way up. #goteamskinnyfat

About 200g of carbs for lunch. I hate carboloading because I feel like crap. I just hate eating this heavy when my mileage is down. I know it's necessary of course. Typical pre-race dinner of Thai early this evening. Race is at 7:00 #groan

Saucony ISO Triumph Miles: 4.00
Weight: 176.00
Comments
From Jake K on Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 17:13:22 from 67.166.113.191

Good luck buddy!!

Race: Philadelphia Marathon (26.219 Miles) 02:46:54, Place overall: 98
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.8026.200.000.0027.00

Wind was a little tough at times today and I missed my goal. However, I called on my extra fat stores to kick the tar out of the last 10k. Dropped a 6:10 at mile 26 (I think my fastest of the race) and 5:30 pace for the partial. I ran a 22 second negative split, so I'm learning the marathon you might say. A PR by 1:28, which is decent but I just ran a half PR of 1:23. No complaints. Slow, yet steady improvement. Full race report to follow.  

REPORT

My goal was to run a PR but my A-goal was sub-2:45. However, with 10-12 MPH winds to start and increasing gusts to 14-18 MPH (or more I'm not sure) things were not always easy, particularly with the headwinds going into West Philly (and uphill in a few spots) and heading down Kelly Drive.

Warmed up for 8 minutes and got to the line. Security was tighter this year and I got in the wrong way on the corral. I was going to jump the fence but a guard was busting people, so I waited until he went by to yell at a group of people who jumped over and I jumped when his back was turned :-) I know they have a job to do and that is to keep us safe but if I end up in the 8 minute pace range coral that isn't safe either.

The Race (In the shortest version I can tell for a long-winded fellow):

-Start out well. Pace felt good around 6:20. Got some winds in the first 6 miles. I did not feel as good in the first half as I did last year overall

-The winds in West Philly were not fun. Around miles 10-13 I knew I had to dig deep. I wasn't suffering but I wasn't feeling bullet proof. My watch was way off, so I shut it off for a while.

-First half in 1:23:38, about a minute and a half behind schedule.

-Some tough winds out to North West Philadelphia to the 20 mile mark. I pass my running buddy Jonathan around mile 17 who is struggling. I felt bad and tried to tell him we had a tailwind coming back.`

-Around 19 miles I see Matt (FreakityPopo) and give him a shout at mile 21 in 2 hours on his way to a time I am sure he will soon post :-). I feel tired around 20 (I'm going wall up at 20?!!?). The slight uphill felt terrible. I think disaster will hit. It doesn't. I hit the turn around and my vision pulls the course into sharp focus. I started digging.

-Some tail wind in the last 10k (I think) that I couldn't feel. Some shifting winds that slowed me down around 23-24. I start passing people. I usually get stitches very late but avoided them again this year. Around mile 24 I knew I had it and pushed.

-Mile 25ish I was cruising 6:10 pace pumping my first as if I was Olympian, but actually I am trying to teach Philadelphia crowds to make some noise for an event other than loosing sports teams. #theytry

-I started kicking before the 26-mile mark and gave it heck, finishing at 5:30 pace.

-Second half in 1:23:16 for a 22-second negative split, which really came in the last mile and a half but, hey, where better? I ran a 26ish second negative split last year.

The rich, chocolatey goodness: 6:23, 6:28, 6:28 (balanced; markers were off or something) 6:22, 6:22 (balanced miss split), 6:26, 6:15, 6:36 (hill), 6:18 6:38 (hill), 6:05 (downhill), 6:16, 6:25, 6:21, 6:26, 6:25, 6:28, 6:27, 6:28, 6:30, 6:11, 6:11, 6:23, 6:26, 6:16, 6:10, 76 seconds for .23 (5:30 pace)

Many thanks for the continued encouragement, comments, and many fine examples of running and living. Thanks to Sasha (as always) for continuing this space for this community.

I'll be taking this week pretty much off completely as has been my practice for the last three marathons. I might run short and easy with Megan in Toledo depending on how I feel over Thanksgiving  (I'm currently shuffling around at 1:15AM). But that won't be until Thursday or Friday at least. No real training plans until January.

Cheers.

 

 

Kinvara 5 White/Black Miles: 27.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From RileyCook on Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 11:45:10 from 73.52.134.194

Great race, especially the finish! A PR is a PR even if only by small margins. That's great Jason, especially in windy conditions. Congrats.

From Derunzo on Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 11:51:48 from 98.229.177.205

Kick ass!

From Rob Murphy on Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 11:53:18 from 24.10.247.181

Great race Jason. Not surprised at all.

From Ben VanBeekum on Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 12:16:15 from 73.52.147.143

Fantastic run. Great job on getting a PR. Sometimes a marathon is racing against Mother Nature instead of time. I think you beat both of them today! Great job.

From SlowJoe on Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 16:18:42 from 45.18.50.53

Yet. Another. PR. Amazing, yet not unexpected, that you keep dropping your times. Good to see all your dedication paying off (again)!

From jtshad on Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 16:23:31 from 173.198.176.201

Great race and dealing with the conditions. Congrats on the PR!

From Drew on Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 16:30:18 from 173.171.218.92

Not all 1:28 PRs are equal - after several training cycles, any kind of PR is meaningful and your significant and continued progress speak to your dedication and training.

From Bret on Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 17:46:05 from 99.1.220.106

Nice job Jason. Congrats on yet another PR. Your training has really paid off. Well done.

From Jake K on Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 18:14:24 from 67.166.113.191

You pulled off the triple crown - 5K / Half Marathon / Marathon PRs in 6 weeks! (On the heels of a 10K PR at B2B in August)

Wind is so tough to deal with in the marathon. Even on a loop course, it never "helps" you as much as it slows you down. Seems like you ran smart, patient, and hammered the final miles. That is becoming your style!

From butlerbrunning on Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 18:22:38 from 104.52.197.67

Man Great run. Congrats on the PR..All the hard work is paying off. Keep it up Jason.

From flatlander on Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 05:08:27 from 76.31.29.220

Great running. The hard work paid off at the end when you didn't bonk. Great to see that, congratulations.

From Freakitypopo on Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 13:47:30 from 69.143.182.209

Great job! You were able to maintain decent splits on that second half which is really good considering how bad that wind was. I honestly think that wind slowed everyone by at least 1-2 minutes, not to mention that the course was a little long.

From Jason D on Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 16:06:50 from 68.80.27.222

Thanks, everyone.

Matt: my wife Megan asked me how much the winds slowed me and I couldn't quite estimate but I figured maybe 3-4 seconds per mile average (1-2 minutes). I didn't find the hills that troubling last year but the wind magnified the effort as well as perception this year. Mile 8 seemed enormous and I spend a fair amount of time running hills that size in my neighborhood.

From joebell1981 on Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 19:02:46 from 99.39.133.24

Impressive, Jason! Re-iterating what everybody else has said, but, definitely worth repeating: Not Surprising. You have been crushing it at every distance and training your ballz off. Well earned PR on day that wasn't ideal.

I vote that you come back to IN and run the Indy Monumental Marathon next year - flat, rarely windy, etc. ... "U&Me

From Ryan Achatz on Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 19:42:08 from 174.22.32.138

Congrats on the PR even if it was not the time you wanted. You will crush it even more next time.

From Andrea on Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 19:56:52 from 67.166.113.191

Great race and really impressive improvement at all distances this training cycle!

From Jason D on Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 09:25:09 from 68.80.27.222

I like the idea, Joe. I ran my first marathon there in 2011 and ran 3:36. I ran it again in 3:09 the next year missing my BQ. It's a good course. I think I'll need an adult job first though to travel that far for a race. Who knows I might end up back in the Midwest.

From allie on Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 18:36:50 from 24.99.46.55

congrats, jason. not just on this race, but on everything you have done this year. PR at every distance!

happy thanksgiving.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.000.000.000.000.00

Complete recovery day. Fairly sore. I feel good about yesterday.

Already thinking about spring racing plans. I am not sure I will do a spring marathon. I'll likely follow last year's pattern of using this week and December as a 5 week recovery cycle and January to start basebuilding into February, while looking to run a fast half in early April. I'll then try to see what I can do at Broad Street four weeks later
 

Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.000.000.000.000.00

Day off # 2.

Still a little sore. Some assymetrical soreness in the left quad. Hips are tight and could use some stretching and a nice long walk. Stair test is about a C+/B-. No one-step shuffle but I can feel where I'm tight.

I had a lot of work to do Sunday and yesterday. I cancelled classes basically so I could work on grading. Megan and I are headed to Toldeo fairly soon. It's possible I will run either Thursday or Friday. If we go to the gym with Chas I will cross traing. I am both anxious to run (mostly just anxious in general) and enjoying the time off as I know I need my rest. Put in a lot of miles this year.

Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.000.000.000.000.00

Day off #3. Legs feel much better. Stretched out my hips briefly.

Grading at Starbucks. Not at all what I want to be doing. Your home office is like your baseball glove. I'd much rather have been out running.

Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.000.000.000.000.00

Day off # 4.

Megan and I were going to run but went to bed very late and I got up late. I've just been lazy and reclining in the chair. Maybe a run tomorrow. I used some of the drive to Toledo to put together my training schedule for spring. Pretty much whatever I feel like for December with a low-stakes trail race that I did last year. Increase mileage back up over the next 8 weeks, throwing in some farlek runs and basic tempos before starting everything in full swing just after my birthday at the end of January.

Happy Thanksgiving to all! I've already eaten and drank much more than I should have.

Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Rob Murphy on Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 13:45:36 from 24.10.247.181

Sounds like a great plan. Love your post-marathon recovery. Don't feel like you have to apologize for it!

From Jason D on Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 14:10:19 from 72.241.41.142

It was something Bam recommended to me in 2013. SlowJoe was also doing it, and I know elites will do it at the end of the year. It sucks to gain weight and lose fitness but it's part of the process. It's a good physical and mental reset.

I've also seen you argue a few times that you have nothing to gain in the 5 days after a marathon (I think you may have meant workouts).

Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family, Rob.

From Rob Murphy on Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 14:48:17 from 24.10.247.181

You too Jason.

Running is fun, but so is eating, drinking, relaxing, and gaining a couple pounds!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.000.000.000.007.00

Noon: Treadmill - 7 miles easy. 50 push-ups after.

Chas invited us to the Y. I was going to jump on a bike but someone was using it. I decided I'd run easy for however long felt comfortable. I felt good. Overstuff and overwined, but I needed to get the brain chemistry working. Felt terrible and awesome after. 

So . . . not a complete week off, but it mostly will be. 

 

 

Saucony ISO Triumph Miles: 7.00
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.000.000.000.000.00

Day off.

I will return to my regularly scheduled running on Monday, but I might hop on the treadmill depending on when we get back to Philadelphia tomorrow.

Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.000.000.000.000.00

Day off. Long travel day back from Ohio.

Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.000.000.000.005.00

Noon: 5 miles

New Balance Zante Miles: 5.00
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.000.000.000.008.00

PM: Treadmill - 8 miles mostly easy with 15 minutes moderate

Mizuno Musha Miles: 8.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From SlowJoe on Wed, Dec 02, 2015 at 11:31:06 from 107.77.66.86

Do you hibernate for the winter up there?

From Jason D on Wed, Dec 02, 2015 at 18:05:42 from 68.80.27.222

That's pretty much what I've been doing since we got back from Ohio. Mostly rain right now. My body doesn't like going for high level of activity to zero. Can't get out of bed.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.000.000.000.008.00

PM: Treadmill - 8 miles 50/50 easy/moderate

New Balance Zante Miles: 8.00
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.500.000.000.008.50

PM: Treadmill - 8.5 miles.

Did a Justin Park-Inspired, Rob Murphy-Approved minutes workout. Slow to start but a decent push at the end.

3 x 10 minutes @ 7.5, 8, 8.5

10 minutes @ 9.0

15 minutes minutes @ 9.5

5 minutes @ 8

I ran many miles between 9-10 minute pace from May to October. I'm running a little more moderately as I feel like it as I bump my mileage back up over the next three weeks. I'll probably loaf on the trails tomorrow. As I called it last year when I was down about the job market, "playing in the woods." 

I'm feeling better now that I'm back to running. The full week off after a marathon helps my body but it kills me mentally. It's like going 100MPH and jacking on the brakes. Had a hard time getting out of bed this week.

Mizuno Musha Miles: 8.50
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
11.250.000.000.0011.25

PM: 11.25 miles on the trails. 1100 feet of gain.

Inov-8 Roclite 295 Miles: 11.25
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Derunzo on Sat, Dec 05, 2015 at 14:40:52 from 98.229.177.205

Nice elevation.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.500.000.000.004.50

PM: Treadmill - 4.5 miles. I broke the treadmill.

There's an issue with the electronics that complex fixes and then it craps the bed again. Somone's kid was in there running around driving me insane. I was going to hop on the bike but the guy who stands in there not exercising was using it for an armrest. I left pretty ticked, mostly at myself for my inability to get up early and out the door.

I skipped out on the Rocky 50k today. Too close to a marathon even if the plan was to run roughly at 8:00 minute pace. I'll try to get 31 miles in on January 24.

Mizuno Musha Miles: 4.50
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.250.000.000.007.25

PM: 7.25 miles.

Saucony ISO Triumph Miles: 7.25
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.500.000.000.008.50

PM: Treadmill - 8.5 miles in about 61 minutes

10 minutes @ 7.5, 8, 8.5, 9

5 minutes @ 9.2, 9.4

5 minutes @ 8

5 minutes with strides

Planned to go 5 minutes at 9.6 and 9.8 but I was hitting AT pretty good and called it a day.

Did about 10 minutes on the elliptical in reverse to work the glutes and hamstrings after.

 

Saucony Fastwitch 7 Miles: 8.50
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.500.000.000.008.50

PM: 8.5 miles moderate, 7:06 average

New Balance Zante Miles: 8.50
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.500.000.000.0010.50

PM: 10.5 miles mostly easy. 52 but dry and chilly. I'll take it.

Faster mile (6:36) to close. That was my slowest split in Philly Marathon and it was uphill into a good headwind.

Philadelphia Marathon finish: why has my left wrist gone limp?

Saucony ISO Triumph Miles: 10.50
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From allie on Wed, Dec 09, 2015 at 16:34:33 from 24.99.46.55

t-rex mode.

you look strong. good form and no dramatic collapsing. :)

From Bret on Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 07:38:00 from 216.234.133.229

Ya looked strong and solid to me!

From Jake K on Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 07:54:03 from 159.212.71.25

Limp wrist = nice and relaxed!

You have a couple strong Philly finish photo/videos on the record now. Much, much better than mine ;-)

From Jason D on Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 09:38:55 from 139.84.245.243

I was running pretty fast here (

From Jason D on Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 09:40:13 from 139.84.245.243

I was running pretty fast here ( sub-5:30) since I ran 5:30 average for the partial. Felt good to push after a 6:10 26th mile!

I had to kick to make sure only the top 3 ladies beat me :-)

From SlowJoe on Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 11:53:45 from 107.77.80.51

I can say with 100% confidence that you look better than I have at the end of any race. Ever.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.500.004.000.008.50

PM: Treadmill - 8.25 miles.

Light, impromptu workout. 2.5 up, 4 x 1 mile @ 6:15 w/ quarter jogs, cooled down to 60 minutes. Not much of a workout but I just didn't feel like plodding. Just a little something to knock out the cobwebs. Probably another month before I get into a more structured workouts schedule, but we shall see.

#busttherust #burnthelard

Mizuno Musha Miles: 8.25
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
14.000.000.000.0014.00

PM: Trails - 14 miles. Just over 2 hours.

Did one faster mile on a relative flat section with some rocky segments in 6:45 to steal a Strava CR. About 60 degrees. As I was coming through one of the parking lots a hipster was pulling an arrow out of a tree. Apparently he was doing some bow and arrow practice Weatherman-style across the path I was running. A very weird sight. #keepphillyweird.

Inov-8 Roclite 295 Miles: 14.00
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.250.000.000.0010.25

PM: 10.25 miles. Just under 70 degrees. Went shirtless for a while.

Kinvara 5 White/Black Miles: 10.25
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
18.500.000.000.0018.50

AM: 18.5 miles on the trails. 2000+ feet of gain.

Went with the Wanderers. We dropped some guys off after 10 miles. Went with Preston as long as I could manage. He had a pretty good supply of fuel and water. I went depletion-style (no breakfast, no gels, no water) and even though it was only 18 miles I spent 2:50 running and 2:58 on my feet. I turned around at ~15 miles because I was worried finishing the 3rd corner would leave me not able to get back (the run is called a 4 corners run because it uses all 4 corners of the park and is about 24 miles).

I think this convinced me a technical 50k is not on my bucket list anytime soon.

I saw a black squirrel close up.

Inov-8 Roclite 295 Miles: 18.50
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From allie on Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 17:50:55 from 24.99.46.55

that's a solid run.

interesting about the black squirrel...i didn't even know that was a thing. now i'm looking through all sorts of pics...i think if i saw one live, my first thought would be that it was a small skunk. :)

From Jason D on Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 19:09:53 from 68.80.27.222

That's what it looks like! I saw one last year during a long run but thought I might have been hallucinating. Ealier this fall I saw one on one of the campuses I teach at but I couldn't get a picture. They all seem to be in a certain cluster of neighborhoods in Philadelphia, which sounds crazy I know!

From Jon on Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 05:12:26 from 96.33.87.148

50ks are a lot easier with water and calories. Just saying.

From Jason D on Sun, Dec 27, 2015 at 15:57:25 from 45.46.20.59

I typically run unfueled for marathon training with run up to 2:45. On race day I eat two bananas and two pieces of toast with jam. 3 gels during the first 30k. I can definitely see that a 50k would require a good deal of fuel.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.000.000.000.008.00

AM: 8 miles slow. Legs are pretty dead from yesterday. I would be suspicious if they weren't.

PM: 50 minutes on the elliptical 

Saucony Ride 7 Miles: 8.00
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
9.000.000.000.009.00

PM: 9 miles easy. Feeling pretty crappy in general.

Saucony ISO Triumph Miles: 9.00
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
11.000.000.000.0011.00

PM: 11 miles.

Fair to partly crappy. Felt a little bit better affter 7 or 8 miles. Played "if the light turns green I'll do the long version of this route." It did, so I went on.

New Balance Zante Miles: 11.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Eugene on Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 20:29:06 from 67.213.238.183

Are the Zante's pretty good? I've been considering buying a pair for a while now.

From Jason D on Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 22:13:11 from 68.80.27.222

They are fairly firm for what I expected. They are also fairly narrow and fitted around the upper tongue area.

I like a fairly firm yet responsive shoe, but the feel of these is a bit off for me for some reason. I imagine once they are broken in more they will feel pretty good. I haven't had any faster runs in them, but when I run faster they feel better if that makes sense. If I am loafing around at 8-8:30 pace they don't feel great. 7:15-6:50 feels pretty good. I can imagine these being a good marathon shoe for me running 6:10-6:30 pace.

Looks like you have some New Balance shoes, so you might like them better.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.700.000.000.008.70

PM: Treamill - 8.7 miles in 60 minutes + 20 minutes on the elliptical

(All at 1.5 %)

5 minutes @ 7.5, 8.0

10 minutes @ 8.5

35 minutes @ 9.0

5 minutes @ 9.5

20 minutes on the elliptical

Mizuno Musha Miles: 8.70
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.750.000.000.008.75

PM: Treadmill - 8.75 miles in 60 minutes + 15 minutes on the elliptical 

(All at 1.5 %)

5 minutes @ 7.5, 8

20 minutes @ 8.5

10 minutes @ 9.0

10 minutes @ 9.3

10 minutes @ 9.5

15 minutes on the elliptical 

 

Saucony Fastwitch 7 Miles: 8.75
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
11.250.000.000.0011.25

PM: 11.25 miles easy.

Kinvara 5 Black/White 2 Miles: 11.25
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.500.000.000.008.50

PM: 8.5 miles.

Hip has been a little creaky the last three days or so. Feels fine running.

Saucony ISO Triumph Miles: 8.50
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From SlowJoe on Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 15:23:37 from 107.77.105.121

So at this point you pretty much have to go for 4K miles, right?

From Jason D on Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 18:22:18 from 68.80.27.222

I told myself it was silly to chase numbers, but wouldn't it look nice? I think I need 11-12 miles a day. I might get ambitious and knock them out next week in Maine.

From SlowJoe on Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 19:47:11 from 107.77.105.121

Meh...We work for years to turn a 3:01 into a 2:59, or (insert arbitrary time goal here), so this is no less silly!

From Jake K on Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 20:52:39 from 67.166.113.191

A lot of competitive running is chasing arbitrary numbers :-)

4K is a lot of miles. Consistent year... but mainly impressive because of how you finished it!

From Jake K on Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 20:53:08 from 67.166.113.191

And by that I mean the PRs, not necessarily whether you average 12 miles/day for the next week or so :-)

From Jason D on Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 21:13:33 from 68.80.27.222

Good point. 4000 IS a lot of miles. I am not sure I can keep up these increases and I know I really don't have to. I can do a lot averaging about 70 a week with peaks into the 90s. But now that I do the math 70 a week is 3640!

As for the quest for 4k, part of the problem is I haven't been doubling (typically this time of year I don't). 12 miles a day of doubles is easy. Singles is a bit tougher. I need to stop staying up so late and getting out of bed late. Typical this time of year with grading and no direction training wise. The weather has been great though given the lack of snow.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.000.000.000.0010.00

PM: 10 miles moderate pace down to marathon pace - averaged 7:06. Did 3 brief strides.

Breathing was pretty high but my first few miles were quick for me. Hard to believe a month ago or so I was running 21 miles at this pace and four weeks ago I ran 26.2 miles 2 seconds faster average than my fastest mile today, which was 6:24.

New Balance Zante Miles: 10.00
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.250.000.000.0010.25

PM: 10.25 miles.

Weight is getting down to off-season range. I'll likely mess that up spending 10+ days at my parents'. At least there is no real snow in the forecast so I can get my miles in.

Saucony Ride 7 Miles: 10.25
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From SlowJoe on Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 18:47:34 from 107.77.72.66

Dang parents with their delicious leftovers...

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.000.000.000.000.00

Off. Travel day to Maine.

Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.100.000.000.004.10

Lunch - 4.1 miles moderate. Didn't make time to fit in more.

Saucony Ride 7 Miles: 4.10
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.500.000.000.007.50

PM: 7.5 miles.

53 degrees and sunny. A rare day in Maine for Christmas. Run was not super pleasant given the amount of crap I ate. Usually it doesn't bother me but the OJ and jelly beans were beating me up. 

Merry Christmas, FRB!

Saucony Ride 7 Miles: 7.50
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Bret on Fri, Dec 25, 2015 at 17:06:27 from 65.196.149.2

Merry Christmas Jason - quite warm even in Maine I see. It was 85 in St. Pete today which believe it or not is also a record.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.250.000.000.0010.25

PM: 10.25 miles. Did 4 out and back with Megan then did another 10k fairly steady. 43 degrees and sunny.

Miles With Megan Miles: 4.00Saucony ISO Triumph Miles: 10.25
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.500.000.000.007.50

AM: rainy and freezing. We are headed to Get Air in Portland for my nephew's birthday. My hand is bandaged because my sister's dog decided he didn't like me, bit my hand, then came after me. I landed two good haymakers on the brute before Megan and family broke us up. I tried scolding him to get him away, but that method doesn't work. Punching him in the head didn't either. Few small puncture wounds and a scrape on my thumb. I could see how getting bit in the leg while running would hurt.

PM: 7.5 miles easy. A little freezing rain. Felt okay for a 4 slice lunch. Had fun jumping on the trampoline and dunking. I pulled out some classics: the Dee Brown, between the legs, double ball dunks.

New Balance Zante Miles: 7.50
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From SlowJoe on Sun, Dec 27, 2015 at 08:57:36 from 107.77.80.45

Wow, bad dog! Seems like lots of dogs around the country are anti-Jason. Hope the hand is ok (and not your paper-grading hand!)

From Jason D on Sun, Dec 27, 2015 at 15:41:42 from 45.46.20.59

It's okay. Nothing too serious. I think I'm going to lose my thumb nail. Saw the beast today. He seemed fine. I was ready for war.

From Matt Schreiber on Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 21:06:35 from 66.17.104.128

This post ranks up there.. and not just because of the mutt. Hope you're all right! I've been bit once. Although I was pretty young, I remember I didn't like it.

I'm guessing the freeing rain kept your mind of the gut on the run.

Have a safe trip! Hopefully no delays.

From RileyCook on Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 17:57:49 from 172.56.15.180

Dang!Dumb dog! Hope the hand is ok! And do you have video of the Dee Brown dunk? Did you pump your shoes up first?

From Jason D on Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 13:59:12 from 45.46.20.59

It's really not bad. A dog with more clamping power and tearing power would have done some damage. He's a Victorian Bulldog that chases tires and tries to bite them while the vehicle is moving. He's already been run over once.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.000.000.000.000.00

Off. My blogiversary. Just didn't get out. Looked everywhere for some winter weather shoe attachments. I could only find Yaktrax, which wasn't what I wanted. That's why I just order stuff online.

Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
11.300.000.000.0011.30

PM: 11.3 miles easy. 5 with Megan.

Around 20 degrees and windy with some sleet. Enjoyed the run. Yaktrax weren't necessary, but I wanted to test them. They are just okay. I think they will be good with all the ice in Philadelphia if winter ever hits there.

Miles With Megan Miles: 5.00Saucony Ride 7 Miles: 11.30Yaktrax Miles: 11.30
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
10.000.000.000.0010.00

PM: 10 miles easy.

A little slippery toward the end. I nailed my ankle bone with a Yaktrax. It's worse than my screw shoes for sure. #ouchies

New Balance Zante Miles: 10.00Yaktrax Miles: 10.00
Weight: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.000.000.000.000.00

Probably no run today. I hate to end the year on a zero but I just don't feel great mentally and I've had a bit of a cold the last three days. My hip has also been a bit unstable. I jumped to try to grab the rim at a basketball game and I had a sharp pain when I landed. It feels fine running unless the ground is unstable. It's been making itself known here and there. No pain  just unstable.

Happy New Year.

Weight: 0.00
Comments
From jtshad on Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 13:18:47 from 173.198.176.201

Hope you start feeling better.

Happy new year, may 2016 be a blessing to you and Megan.

From Rob Murphy on Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 14:12:24 from 24.10.247.181

I thought for sure you'd crank out a 52 miler just to hit 4,000.

No biggie though. I've been running since 1977 and I've yet to run a single 3,000 mile year.

From Jason D on Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 16:20:56 from 45.46.20.59

Thanks, Jeff. Best wishes to you and your family.

It's a lot of miles, Rob. That week off after the marathon and 3 days off in December cost me! I'm sticking with my week off after a marathon even if it makes me feel awful. I thought maybe what I ran last year or 3750 would have been good. Just kind of happened. Best wishes to you and your family.

From Matt Schreiber on Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 20:44:52 from 66.17.104.128

Happy New Year Jason!

From Jake K on Sun, Jan 03, 2016 at 20:58:20 from 67.166.113.191

If you really go for it, can you grab and hang on the rim?

I could do that when I was 16, but wouldn't come close now!

From Jason D on Mon, Jan 04, 2016 at 10:08:50 from 68.80.27.222

In high school I could with some careful gripping run from the 3 point line and get the ball up but I couldn't throw it down. The ball would fly out when I pulled the rim down. I think I needed another 2-3 inches.

I think if I ran and went off one foot I might be able to tip it. This was off two feet more or less standing start.

I'll stick with horizontal movement I think.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
3500.37176.05206.6665.333948.41
Kinvara 5 Miles: 249.70Newton Gravity III Miles: 224.25Newton Gravity LE Miles: 239.80Saucony Kinvara 2 (2) Miles: 31.20Mizuno Musha Miles: 237.90Newton Sir Isaacs (wide) Miles: 8.00Saucony Fastwitch Miles: 20.75Altra The One Miles: 8.25Kinvara 5 Blue Miles: 432.05Saucony A5 Miles: 215.00Kinvara 2 White/Blue Miles: 224.50Saucony Kinvara 4 Miles: 13.00Newton MV3 Miles: 44.75Saucony A6 Miles: 106.66Inov-8 Roclite 295 Miles: 166.95Newton Flat 5 Miles: 27.00Kinvara 5 Green Miles: 496.70Salomon SL Sense Ultra Miles: 34.80Miles With Megan Miles: 94.30Nike Zoom Streak LT2 Miles: 188.45Nike Victory Spikes Miles: 6.25Saucony Ride 7 Miles: 367.50Kinvara 5 White/Black Miles: 188.50Saucony Fastwitch 7 Miles: 151.20Nike Zoom Streak LT2 White/Orange Miles: 38.25New Balance Zante Miles: 75.00Saucony ISO Triumph Miles: 92.60Kinvara 5 Black/White 2 Miles: 27.50Yaktrax Miles: 21.30
Weight: 173.63
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