Cheston's Running Blog

Glad to see you back!

Thanks, good to be back. Looks like your blog is more popular then ever!!!

Good job. Nice to see you back!

Cheston, great to hear from you - and that you're still in great shape. Good luck with your continued training.

Cheston, glad to see your back to blogging. Hope all is going good over there. Look us up whenever you're over in St. George

Thanks guys, good to be back.

Lake Powell vs. Utah Lake. Is there even any reason to put the two in the same category?

Hey biker dude. powell does not have monster catfish?

Wow I had to do a double take once I saw your entry posted. It looks like I'm a little late but welcome back. I think in a week or two I'm going to be in Bullfrog to do some spring fishing.

I'll be around, Give me the heads up before you get here. I spend most of my time out on the lake patroling.

Hey Biker dude! if you see any Biker grandma's get there number for me would you! that is flying on the Bike, I guess you would be MR Hambuger if your front tire blew out!

Hamburger is right. I think about that often. I hope I never crash going that fast. I guess I should start wearing a helmet?

Just kidding, I never leave home without it.

I'll keep my eyes open for the hot biker grandma chicks for you.

I bet you did not even get her number for me!

Man you've got the coolest job. It looks like next Saturday we will be down there. You'll have to keep a heads up and send us in the right direction to catch some fish.

20 miles on the bike! Did that take about 40 min. leg burn was just the wind whipping!

I wish. No it takes a little longer out here with all the hills. I do a 20 miler on the bike in about 1:05.

Hey Cheston - Glad to see you blogging again. I see that you've been at it for a couple weeks now. How's life treating you guys? I hope all is well.

Steve

Cheston- It looks like we will be coming down early Friday morning and staying until Saturday night. We usually just throw a cot down somewhere over by the boat ramp. Anyways I'll be doing some kind of run early Saturday morning if your interested. My cell is 435-632-2459... I'm not sure it works down there. But I'll check this all thursday too see what you've got going on.

Cheston- I got your message right when we were pulling off the lake this evening at 5 p.m. I might have saw you out talking to a couple with a younger girl.... just out from the boat ramp. They said they got stopped because they didn't have stickers on or something. Anyways I'm not sure if that was you but I though I might have been.

We had a good time and caught some nice Walleye today. I got a couple runs in down there too. We'll have to plan it next time I'm down.

Time to get puncture resistant tubes! savey! is it windy down there?

Thought I might see you back at your ol' stompin grounds for the Kanab 10K.

What Tri are you hitting?

Utah Lake Half, August 9th.

the bike may rust, So will the screws in your head! Your loolking real strong with your training. you Must be in great shape! Tru althletes are awesome!

So is that 90mpw short term goal with or without bike mileage? Great training and way to mix it up.

I probably need to redo my short term goal.

90 mpw running was a goal for a while ago when I was just straight running. I'm mixing things up now and doing some triathlon training.

I run only three times per week I'm at 9 miles 3x per week right now and any where from 25 to 45 miles 3x a week on the bike. I also try to get in at least 3 swims per week.

Thanks for asking.

The dedication of a triathlete is always amazing to me. But it sounds like you do it in a well balanced way. Any chance of working up to an Ironman? That had been a goal of mine for the last 13-yrs but since I've yet to switch over to triathlons I'm going to stick with my sub-2:30 marathon goal for now. Good luck to you.

Thanks. I'd like to do a full Ironman.

Initially I was planning on training for a full Ironman, but me wife talked me into working my way up. She runs marathons and needs time to train as well and with 3 kids and work, we kind of have to share time so we each have enough time to train.

Sorry I missed you while you were in the "big city". That is great that you and your wife split the training that way, is she also on the blog? Good luck at working up to that Ironman. I'm sure I will look at it again. But right now I'm time and money limited to work on triathlons at the level I would like to compete at.

p.s. I do have a confession, I first came to your blog because you were topping the mileage board and the whole discussion on biking vs. running mileage came up (http://fastrunningblog.com/forum/index.php/topic,348.0.html). But I'm glad I did and I wish you the best success in both your pursuit of a 2:29 marathon and an Ironman...

No, my wifes not on the blog. I don't know if I'll ever reach the 2:29 marathon goal, I haven't been training for it, so I doubt I ever well, but I'm having fun tri training right now.

Biking is by no means as hard as running. I can do a 45 miler on a bike and be fresh and ready to go the next day. A 45 mile bike ride feels like a 10 mile run to my body.

Good luck with your training.

Never count out the 2:29. The tri training may help strengthen muscles and take you to a new level. I ran in high school and college and even after all that training only managed 2:45-55 in the marathon for the first 5 years out of college. However, after a couple years of consistent higher mileage training I've even started to beat my college PRs and break 2:40 and for the first time can truly see a 2:29. I hope that your obvious dedication to training will also pay off.

9 easy miles. your superman down there! you take your shirt off just to show off the "S"

I'm getting a pretty good tain. I'd have to charge you to see it.

Time spend with your kids is nothing to be ashamed of! A 55-mile bikeride isn't either, especially with wind! Nice work!

Thanks.

"Reach and pull?" hmmm sounds painful. Hey look out for the fish. I hear the Big mouth Bass our hungry this time of the year!

Great job. Are you training for a triathlon? One thing has been bugging me though. Some people check the mileage board a lot and I am one of them. And I don't think that it is fair that you keep getting top of the mileage board with your biking. Would you mind changing your blog format to one that has a cross training section? I really admire your training and I know that mileage doesn't mean everything, but I am crazy and I know some other people are like me. Again, I mean no offense and feel free to keep it this way if you like it. But it might help you track your training better as well.

Why are people so concerned about your miles? First pride comes before the fall. blog was made to track your goals and encourage others with simular intrests. Cheston keep up the great training. I think your an awesome athlete.

Wildbull, it was a simple polite request. I'm not trying to pick a fight. I also think that cheston is a great athlete. He is better than me for sure.

Haynes, I may agree with you. I guess everyone is entitled to there opinion. invited or not. Yes your request was a polite Request. I think he should have a blue shirt with white pants for his pic! And the hat? Man take it off! come on Cheston.

What can I say I'm a competitor. If this is the only way I can win on the mileage board, then maybe I had better keep it as is.

To be honest I've never even checked the mileage board. I'm not concerned with it. I rarely look at the other blogs.

I'm not a smart man. I wouldn't have any idea how to change the format. Sorry Haynes. I know your not trying to pick a fight. But thanks for the info anyway.

Cheston--

If you're not concerned with the mileage board and rarely look at other blogs then why not consider taking a moment to change your logging template to accommodate those who are active on the blog and do check the mileage board?

Here's how to change your template:

1) Log into the blog.

2) Click on "Change Logging Template" from the list of menu items in the pink box on the left hand side of the page.

3) Select "Jack Daniels Running Formula with cross training" and click "Make Active."

You will then have the option to list running miles and cross training (ie cycling) miles.

happy training!

Haynes this is the solution I came up with because people seem to have a problem with this. Write you name on a piece of paper and tape it to the top of your computer and you will always be on top of the mileage board.

Cheston-I use biking when I am injured and put them in crosstraining miles which get added into mileage. What I do to convert this to running miles is take my time and do 10 mins. per mile.

But honostly it doesn't matter, and yes I like to see my name high on the list as well. But if someone wants to keep track of all the mileage they do whether it is biking or running don't let it get to you. You know you have ran more.

Josse--

What a practical solution! I like it.

The thing I don't get about this conversation is how it has anything to do with not respecting someone's miles.

I don't think anyone would say that a person shouldn't track all of their miles, whether it's biking, swimming, running or whatever. It's just a matter of putting the miles into the right bucket and the blog allows you that option.

The blog community works best when folks use the tools available in a way that maximizes their own use and allows the greatest benefit to others. For example, there may be other folks on the blog that are cycling big miles and want to see if others are doing the same. They would miss Cheston's entries because those miles are logged as running miles.

All I'm saying is make the best use of what is available and it will have the effect of improving everyone's experience.

Personally, I don't care much about where I am on the mileage board (I can predict where I am at without even looking at it), but I know many who do care about it (ie Haynes) and I see their point.

Haynes went out of his way to be exceptionally polite in his request and was told to pound sand. I just don't get that! If I were driving down a road making nothing but left hand turns for the last hour and someone told me my right hand blinker was flashing the whole time and confusing the other drivers, I would appreciate the correction.

No one means any offense and in no way is anyone trying to undermine the legitimacy of someone else's training. (I just got beat soundly by a triathlete in a 10k this weekend and have much respect for multisport athletes). We're talking about a simple courtesy, aren't we?

I have to agree with Chad here. The point is not to offend. We just want some consistency for the people who do care about these things. Enough people have voiced that they are competitive about the mileage board and do use this as a form of motivation (see related discussions on the discussion board). I don’t change my mileage to affect my standing on the board but I do check where I stack up against those closest in my ability for the week. For the people that do check the mileage board, I would say the vast majority of the 500 plus people on this blog only log their running miles. Right now Cheston is the only person (I know of) on the first page of the mileage board logging his biking miles = to his running miles. Though total mileage is fun, I think that for the purposes of the mileage board on this running blog the easiest is to do what other people in Cheston’s shoes are doing. That is to either log 3 miles biked = 1 mile on your entry or even better use Josse’s 10 min / mile conversion. That way you don’t have to even change your template, you just change the way you enter your miles. This is about as “fair” as I think we can make things for those who want to log their biking miles vs running miles only.

Cheston, Do what you like. it is your Blog! your record! May the force be with you! in the spirit of competition your not playing fair! We run, and run and run 100 plus miles a week to be on top of the mileage board. Blah Blah Blah. I have never seen a runner that has road rage? Josse, Chad, I think your awesome runners by the way!

Sounds like a lot of people are getting worked up over nothing.

Let us all speak kinds words to each other. Let's just try and focus on the training and not worry about the things that don't matter.

Thanks for the support Bill. I appreciate everyone's advise, but I respectfully decline. I'll leave my blog as is.

I tend to disagree and if it was nothing you would make the change.

Oh great, here we go again...

http://fastrunningblog.com/forum/index.php/topic,348.0.html

Don't feel bad, Cheston, this has been a point of discussion several other times. If it makes you feel better, I one time put that I ran 10,000 miles on a single day just to be at the top of the mileage board and see who complained...

Wow, the intransigence is stunning!

I like Josse's solution- I may go do that once I get home.

Chad, did you have to use a thesaurus to look up that word, or did you really know it off the top of your head? I had to look it up and I'm still not sure how to pronounce it...

By the way, just 2 more comments will put this discussion on the Hot Discussions board, and then it will really get some attention.

I'm not quite sure if I want to get in on this discussion or not, but I have something to say from both sides of the issue.

1. I believe this blog started as a way for runners to log their miles and improve their performance in running. So in that regard I assume the cross- training miles should probably be calculated the same way for all people.

I for one don't really care what the mileage board says for anyone but myself. I like to look and see how many miles I ran in a week, a month and a year. I am excited to know for my own benefit.

2. I sometimes wonder if the reason we see so many injured people on this blog is because they are too caught up in "keeping up with the Jones's". Sasha's idea in this blog was to "run, blog, improve, repeat".

With both of those opinions voiced, I hope I don't regret joining in on this discussion. 1., because of the emails it is likely to generate, and 2. one of the things I love about this blog is the goodness and niceness that comes with it. I hate to see anyone being attacked in a "friendly" place. There have been at least two people attacked on this thread alone.

Everyone knows I'm the Mileage Queen no matter how many miles Cheston bikes! ; )

The mileage board motivates me. There aren't runners around here doing my kind of mileage so I look to this to keep me heading in the right direction. Sure, it seems unfair when I get bumped by a biker, but it sure makes for a HOT discussion, doesn't it?

Back to painting the kitchen (I think it converts to 4 running miles per hour of painting)

Chad, thanks for the "word of the day"! I just looked it up - I think it should be a new feature on the blog (and then of course, we will ask Sasha to add a feature board that tracks who has come up with the most "word(s) of the day".

Dave, I think if we do that we need to have a conversion factor for Chad. I think 4 Chad words of the day = 1 word of the day :)

It's all that high and mighty lawyery stuff!

Ok Ok people I don't think anyone is trying to offend anyone here. I is just overly ambitius runners who like to see there name on the front page of something (luckily for me I can look at the top runners list for that few!)

This blog motivates me along with all the differant personalities. I love these deep philosophical conversations. I do think out of respect people should either change there logging templet (if you set up the blog you can change the templet), or covert there mileage to running. But then again we all have freedom to do what ever we please. Even if we are doing it out of shear bullheadedness (I am talking about myself of course.)

I'm going to change my template so it records my runs in feet. No, inches!

Hey man. As a fellow biker I know that when I first started blogging my miles for biking, I put them in x-training miles, but that wasn't enough as x-training miles still count towards your overall mileage. You do some monster rides which is great ! What i do is convert them by multiplying the total distance by .333333 repeating. I find this gives me an accurate approximate to total distance ran. I am recovering from an achilles issue and its been a long, slow 5 months, I just know that I caused a little turmoil amongst certain runners myself by blogging the mileage.

In the end you can choose to do what you want, but I notice you are blogging your running miles and cycling miles together without modifying the cycling miles. Just thought I'd throw my 2 cents in there that maybe you want to separate the cycling/biking miles. 50-60 mile cycle rides are sweet deals, but not the same as running 50 miles you know? Just dont want you to have skewed results at end of the year.

Ride on man. You watching the Tour this year?

Oh two more things I think that Josse converts x-training to like 10 min miles so just divide total minutes by 10 for another mode of conversion.

Also, what type of bike do you ride?

Now I understand why some are hesitant to "officially" join the blog. . .

Go Cheston! :)

I take a gander at the top mileage every now and then. The only problem i have with biking/running 1:1 miles is that it is hard to compare unless you decipher each persons individual blog.

Let's say my goal is 90 miles per week, so I compare myself to those in that range on the board. If two or three of those do 30 miles biking per week and run 60, then it would appear as though I was doing the same although I'm working about 2 hours longer for the same mileage.

I suppose you could just interpret each persons blog individually, but that kind of defeats the purpose of having a board. The problem only increases with months and years as well.

The mileage board is interesting, but you have to keep in mind that it doesn't tell the whole story. Not all miles are created equal... (even if they are 'running' miles) You would have to dig deeper into any particular persons training logs to find out how their workouts compare to yours anyway.

The only prize for running high mileage is improved fitness.

Cheston - to make the study of your blog more meaningful, you should follow Chad's instructions, and then give yourself a cross-training mile for every 10 minutes of hard biking. Or do the same and put those miles under easy. I do not particularly care if somebody gets displaced from the top of the mileage board because you have too many biking miles logged at face value (I think it is a good motivator for them to put their miles into perspective), but it would make it difficult to figure out what is happening in your training if a large number of biking miles gets counted as running miles.

Congratulations on your longest ride yet, Cheston! That is awesome.

And in other news, you are clearly a scoundrel. You know that it would be simple to change, and that it bugs all these competitive runners that you are blogging bike miles as running miles, and that is why you want to keep doing it. I just think that's funny. It's the diversity of the personalities that makes this blog so great. Runners are stubborn--we have to be to keep at it. Good luck with your training, you scoundrel!

The thing I have loved about this blog since i joined 9 or so months ago is that there isn't the attitude and flippancy that you find on other blogs like LetsRun. I despise LetsRun.

This is a running blog where we do many things like track running miles, talk about running injuries and discuss other running related topics.

Of course, some of the runners also have other athletic talents and pursuits such as swimming, biking, walking and maybe even archery.

No one of these talents or skills is any more important or better than the other.

That said, this is a running blog. It's not a swimming blog. It's not a triathlete blog and it's not an archery blog. That doesn't mean those things can't be discussed and opined on. That's what the discussion forums are for and I believe there are specific "buckets" of conversations where all of these things can be discussed.

But including mileage in one sport, on a mileage board for another sport is not helpful to anyone. It adds confusion to an otherwise simple menas of personal and group accountability.

I use the mileage board for a couple of reasons:

1--It keeps me accountable to myself and others

2-- It helps provide context to the successes, failures and challenges we each face in our training and competition.

3-- It helps draw some conclusions of various training regimens and philosophies.

For others, it's clearly a competitive thing which is perfectly fine. I don't care about that because I'm never going to be a 100-mile per week guy again, but to some it's important that, in part, is what this blgo is for: to push already realtively gifted athletes to greater heights.

When people start putting in mileage that isn't specific to the sport being tracked, then it skews that data and doesn't do anything to help anyone.

Cheston, who appears to be a fantastic athlete, has put in 110 miles this week. 100 of that has been on the bike and ten of it running. It seems weird to me that on fastrunningblog.com this would be the case.

Again, I run the mileage I need to run and can run. I have never looked at the mileage board, seen someone ahead of me, and then gone out for another few miles so I could pass them. That would be silly.

But let's keep this specific to running. Doing otherwise dilutes the value of the blog if it reaches a point where we have to wade through a bunch of other stuff to make use or sense of the running stuff.

maybe i'll start counting car rides on the mileage board too! The point is: there is no point having a mileage board for running if people put whatever cross training activities they do...personally the mileage board motivates me and i gauge myself by how many miles i've done compared to Haynes. I think walking miles are fine but nothing else. Maybe walking is not ok? What if it's up a mountain and you can't run faster than you walk? Any thoughts?

Only if it is a 7% grade and you are carrying a pack with at least 50lbs. in it and going backwards then you can count it on the mileage board.

Some people do not count the mileage unless it is slower than 8:00 pace. Others count walking. We do not have strict rules on what counts as mileage. My personal rule is that if you feel you've trained an equivalent of running a mile at 60% or higher of your max HR, it counts as a running mile. But again, if somebody wants to have different rules for their mileage that is fine with me too. I just need to have an idea of what their rules are if they want me to help them with their training.

We're making this harder than it has to be. Running is running. It isn't walking. It isn't biking. It isn't swimming. And Al Unser Jr., arguably an athlete, doesn't get to count his Indy 500 miles here as well.

This is a running blog. It's not a blog for all athletes. I don't even think cross training miles should be counted. I do a lot of strengthening exercises and stretching that is every bit as important as the miles I run, but I don't get to count them toward mileage because it's not mileage.

There are a lot of things we runners do to train. Running mileage is one of those measurements. Let's not dilute it by trying to convert mowing the lawn, or lifting weights, or walking or hiking into its "equivilent" running mileage.

I think Sean has made the best point here. I have never counted crosstrianing miles as mileage untill I joined the blog and it had a section for my crosstriaing. But I wish it wasn't added into running mileage. I like to see what my exact running miles are without having to go back and minus my crosstraining (but I still like to see what I was doing during an injured time). In fact I don't add them in anymore, but them agian I am not injured.

I have to agree that this is a great blog. The fact that this discussion can go on with such well thought out arguments without resorting to name calling etc. is great. I also have to say that Sean’s arguments are solid and I stand behind him fully.

While I agree with Sean, I have to stand by my conversion of biking miles to .33 running miles. As I am still coming back from this achilles issue, I have found that I can seemingly do endless x-training without aggravation. I think that blogging the bike mileage has helped me stay positive as well as given others an idea of what I'm doing and how I'm going about doing it. Had I not been able to blog cycle miles, I probably would have stopped blogging simply from lack of motivation. In addition I believe it's kept me in shape or rather gotten me back into shape. I don't want to make it on the mileage leader board, but I still think that the 1-2 hrs a day I put in are worth a little bit.

Plus, by blogging, it's given Sasha an idea on possible training program that incorporates running/cycling as I come back. So far so good! (crossing my fingers). I think that as long as we're staying active and getting in our workouts we will all unlock a hidden potential. This blog is amazing and I know it's changed my life.

God bless.

Wow, wow, wow. I don't think I have ever been so popular!! I'm flattered.

It's a good thing I live so far away from everyone, or I think some of you would egg my house and lynch me. I think I had better change my name and take my number out of the phone book.

Congratulations on having one of the hottest conversation topics on the blog! I don't care how you log your miles, I know that I am never going to be at the very top of the mileage board, and I'm OK with that. Good job on the big ride, too. I used to bike myself and know how difficult it can be to put in a really long run. If you are referring to Lybi's calling you a scoundrel, you should know that she has called many on the blog by that name, including Sasha!

Calling someone a "scoudrel" is actually a sign of high regard in my book. Proof:

http://lybi.fastrunningblog.com/blog-05-24-2008.html

(my last comment)

Cheston, don't worry, nobody is mad, I don't think. Everyone respects you as a runner and a person.

Oops that last was from me.

Everyone should check out Burt's blog. His blog is set up to track only miles ran. He has been keeping track of his bicycle mileage too in his comments. Whenever he doesn't run, he puts a zero in total distance and logs the miles in his comments. He understands that it is important to show that he is still training, but that running miles are running miles, and cycling miles are not running miles. Burt really is an awesome and amazing guy. Plus, he's really handsome.

DARN IT!! I FORGOT TO SIGN IN AS A GUEST!!!!!

Way to flatter yourself Burt.

3 letters come to mind. OCD.

What in the heck does OCD mean?

Obsessive Compulsive Disorder and I don't know a distance runner that doesn't have a little. I sure do... hence why I'm still checking back on this thread. I need an intervention.

Cheston there is a big difference between popular and notorious. haha ;)

Why the ha ha I think sugar coating is over now...

Adam - I am delivering the intervention you requested. Stop checking on this thread!

Extra therapy - run, blog, improve, repeat. Skip the mileage board.

Why do the number of comments posted on Cheston's "Most Popular Entry in the last 7 Days" keep going DOWN?

Because some of the comments were made more than 7 days ago. But don't worry, at the moment it's still on the top of the list.

I guess he's getting less popular. Who is this mysterous guest. Is it you Cheston?

No, I'm not scared to put my name to my comments like the mystery guests are.

keep those swimming miles to your self:):) Have a great weekend! some day you can show an old man how to swim!

Last time I was at Fish Lake it was too cold to even wade up to my ankles. So good luck with swimming unless you have a complete dry suit with gloves, hat, and feet things.

Yes, It was way too cold to swim.

I changed my template to the Jack Daniel's. I don't like not being able to see my mileage on the calendar month when I put my biking mileage into trainer 1 or trainer 2. It doesn't show up on my monthly total page. So I'll put it in how I've been doing it until there's a better option.

Trainer 1 and Trainer 2 are for tracking the mileage on your shoes. For the bike mileage use the conversions suggested by Ben. He has the right idea. Divide your final mileage by 3 or your final time by 10 and log the mileage with your running mileage.

Or there is a template that tracks running miles, biking miles and swimming miles. Or like mine it had crosstraining miles as well (you could put the biking miles in there and it still adds them all together). Take a look at all of them and see which one would work best for you.

Cheston I hope all this has not put a bad taste in your mouth for the blog. You look like a great athlete and I hope you continue to blog and train. Good luck with your half ironman, this is one of my goals someday. I would love to do a full as well.

That's good advise, thanks. I'd still like to be able to see a total biking mileage somewhere. I'd like to see it on my calendar month.

I know this is a running blog, it's where I started. I've received some good advice over the last few years.

I'd prefer to stay with this blog and not switch to a biking blog. I'm a runner, I'm just trying something different for awhile.

I'm running the St. George marathon with my wife in October. Running is my passion, I'll always be one. I don't like the idea of people trying to force me into using another blog, just because I've decided to bike and swim for awhile.

I guess what I'm asking for is a biking option with this blog. A way of being able to see my total biking mileage and my running mileage. I wouldn't have a problem putting them into the right category then. Until that option is available, I'll have to do what I've been doing.

I don't like divided my biking mileage. I want to see all my biking mileage. I want to be able to keep track of what I'm doing for me and for my training.

If people are confused and need to know in what area of training my mileage falls, read my blog. I always put if it was running or biking miles.

Maybe the high mileage list needs to be updated? It should reflect cross training miles, running, biking swimming etc... That would avoid the confusion many are seeming to have and the jealously that many seem to focus on.

I'm just a humble athlete. I just want to work out and keep a record of what I've done.

Provide the proper tools to do this and there wont be problems in the future.

I think Sasha is working on something:) Did you ever know you where so popular;)

I had no idea. It must be the ripped body of mine.

I just looked at the Jack Daniel's cross-training version. I could put my biking miles into the cross-training section, but I would still prefer to be able to log them as biking miles and not just miscellaneous miles.

You're kidding right?

Those hundredths of a mile on a bike add up. I like to measure my runs to the thousandths place...

Blah, Blah, Blah!!! Those hundredths of a mile could be the difference of me being on top of the mileage board or second place!!

Anything to be on top baby!!

So are you admitting that you do care about the mileage board?

Only now that I've learned it makes so many people mad.

:)

So basically you are saying you're a jerk. You are a self proclaimed non-contributor to the community (you previously mentioned you don't check other peoples blogs or comment) and despite a huge plea for you to participate in the group that you've decided to join you continue to ignore the requests of those around you. (over 500 other people are true members that oblige by the majority request). I'm confused why someone would join anything just to disrupt it. Many people care about this blog and spend lots of time on it to focus on their training and to help their fellow bloggers. While from your current trend your only focus is to upset people. Way to go dude... I bet you were one of those kids in school that would prefer to get sent to the principal's office just so people would look at you instead of working hard to earn the respect of others...

I've thought about it a little (ok a lot) and keep in mind that some of my best friends are jerks. I find it funny that I should care at all but I'm trying to protect the blog. The main thing here is that you've had a lot of people "mad" but also a lot of people take time to give well thought out arguments of why what you are doing is hurting the quality of the features on the blog. The fact that you had one of the hottest topics ever on the blog as far as number of comments goes points to the seriousness with which other runners take this issue...

Happy Birthday tomorrow.

I would bike 32 in the morning and run 32 in the evening tomorrow. Really show that number that you own it. For me 33 is the "golden" year so you still have some time...

It's 12:18 here on the East Coast so I'll say HAPPY BIRTHDAY! :). Hey I'm doing a lot of biking now too, only I'm sidelined by an injury. What type of bike do you ride?

I have a new flippin' sweet roadie coming my way on Friday. I emptied my checking acct to get it, orig. 1200 but onsale for like 496. Also, what type of gear do you ride in? Right now I do corduroy shorts and a tshirt, but after about 40 miles the chaffing is almost unbearable :(

Happy (late)birthday Cheston. Hope you have a great day.

Thanks guys. My wife says I still got it, so maybe I'm not that old.

I ride a 2007 Jamis Comet. I bought it off the wife of the owner of Cedar Cycle in Cedar City. It's a $1300 bike, but it had 300 miles on it. I got it for $900. A fairly low end bike as far as price goes.

Yea, the crouch really takes a beating biking. I had to invest in some heavy padded biking shorts. Their spandex shorts with the padding sown right into the crouch.

I also go spandex for the shirt as well. The ladies really dig it!! I'm talking about my wife and 3 daughters. I've also had to invest in some gel padded fingerless gloves. My hands would get numb and the gloves do the trick.

You'll probably have to go to a bike store the get the proper gear.

I have a full body spandex suit for the triathlon. It's good for all three events. I should put it on my blog. I'm sure it would scare off any unwanted traffic.

Have some compassion for the guy who did the 100 mile race this week and let him have the top of the mileage board.

Actually, Bill would be on top of the board... not Miguel.

Why don't you put your name with the request, too?

I know if I did a 100 mile race, I wouldn't be scared to put my name to my comments.

So here is the "funny" part. You changed your template but still put your bike miles under running instead of crosstraining and this week you didn't put your swimming "miles" under anything? My question is what are you keeping track of anyway?

Hey Cheston! Sick miles lately! Nice rides and such. I've been injured about five months now with achilles issues. I was wondering what kind of bike you use, and how long it takes you to bike 30? I know how you feel with comments because I was logging all my miles under the mileage, but didn't have a x-training or triathlon kind of blog. And unfortunately I had already changed my blog so I can't go back and pick the triathlon training one :(. But what I found worked nicely as a gauge for approximate miles run for bike miles was logging them @ 33%.. i.e. 30 mile ride is about 10 mile run. I know its not the same for time: miles ration, but I found for me it's about the same for the effort ratio. What do you think? You think that 3 miles biked = 1 mile run?

Solid is a good description. your the king of the mileage board. you want to see hot come to st. george. Show you some home cooking! even worse when Steve takes off the shirt. it is Like a scary flick.

Nice. That's a sight I could go without seeing.

You're actually the king of the mileage board. I just play at it, because a bunch of people let me know their weakness.

It was 106 out here today!! St. George is always about 3 degrees hotter.

Good to hear from you.

your booking out there. what do you do when you get a flat tire out in no where ville.

a. Tear your cloths off and pray.

b. Comendere a car back home

C. Count you down time as running miles :)

d. Run for the water and float home.

you must be in awesome shape!

I see you changed your templet. Now what I do is put the biking in the crosstraining section and the running in the other. Then you will see at the bottom which are biking and which are running and they still add them together in the total mileage.

Yeah I wanted to do is use the Triathlon template which has running, biking swimming, but It's not an option for me under change template because I already have the one that cheston has here.

Cheston, what is your time for a 50 mile bike ride? is it flat or hilly?

i see you dont respond well to criticism if at all

The 50 miler takes for ever. There's nothing but hills out here and I'm talking big ones!! It takes me about 3 1/2 hours.

great job. no smell of rain?

Nice run! Training for anything specific?

Utah Half Triathlon August 9th and the St. George marathon.

I just noticed your wife runs. Is she on the blog? We always love having more ladies to chat with.

No she's not. I've tried to interest her a few times. I think she thinks some bloggers are a little too violent for her.

She may jump on board one day.

Tell her the girls are all really nice and we would love to have her join us! :)

Well do. I've got three little girls, and I agree. Their much nicer.

Yo Cheston. Just wondering if maybe your PSI Tire pressure is to blame? It seems you get a lot of flats. Just wondering because I have about 350 miles on my bike and no problems in the least. Wondering if maybe you're pumping them a little too taught with air? Because i'm a big rider (6'2 and about 172 lbs)

It could be. I'm new to the sport, so I don't know what I'm doing. The PSI suggests 115-125. I pump them up to about 115 each ride.

I normally don't get flats when my tires are new. It's about at 500 miles. That's when the flats start coming. I'm 5'7" 145, so I don't think it has anything to do with my weight.

What kind of tires do you ride with and at what PSI? I ride with specialized Mondo. I've heard a lot of bad reviews about them. I'm getting ready to switch over to Michelin Ironmans.

I use Kenda K-152s which was what the bike came with. I only use pressure ~ 90 PSI though, which is what it suggests. Maybe since I'm at a lower PSI that leaves me a little slower but less prone to flats? We'll have to see :) What kind of repair kit do you carry with you on your bike? Also, do you wear a jersey? I've been trying to find a reliable dealer for bike jerseys that aren't an arm and a leg

Thanks man. I'll try backing off on the PSI a little. The repair kit I use is a Wal-mart special. It's kind of like a bicycle leatherman. It was just about everything on it. I think the brand it bell. I also carry three extra tubes, a patch kit and a bicycle pump. It all fits in a zip up pouch and strapes behind the bike seat, another Wal-mart special.

As far as jersey's go, I'm just getting started. I wear padded shorts and then what ever shirt I happened to grab. I do have a full piece spandex triathlon suit I'm going to wear for the triathlon. I pick up all my gear at Benguim Cyclery in Salt Lake City.

I know I'm beating a dead horse here, but it sure seems weird to me that you are posting your biking mileage on a running blog especially when 70 of the 80 miles are on wheels and not legs. I do wish you the best of luck in your upcoming triathlon. How come you don't count the swimming mileage?

Where are you that you could find a taranchula? I am with the wife on this one, not what I want my husband to bring home to me! I'm sure it will make a great paper weight, or how about a really big belt buckle! :)

I'm at Bullfrog, Lake Powell. The belt buckle idea sounds good.

Yo Cheston. When's your triathlon? How many laps you do in 45 minutes?

Oh and have you ever done a century (100 mile bike ride)? If so, what was your time and do you have any suggestions for a smooth ride? I am thinking about plotting out a 25 mile loop and having a food/water station and stopping off every lap there for refreshment. What do you think? Any suggestions would be awesome. Many thanks.

Benn

Commando,

I've never done a century. In fact, this is going to be my first triathlon ever. The race is August 9th. Half Triathlon. 1.2 mile swim. 56 bike and 13.1 run.

All of my swim training has been in the lake. I've never even worked out in a pool. I have no idea how far I go in 45 minutes. I hope it's far enough, or I'm going to hate life come race day.

Putting out food every 25 miles sounds like a good idea. I would make sure you had a water bottle carrage on your bike and drank at least every 10 miles. Carrying a couple of gel packs on the bike might not be a bad idea either.

Good luck. What century are you planning on doing?

Well there aren't that many scheduled century rides around where I live, and as I've never done a bike race I wouldn't want to get upset too much when an 80 year old gramps kicked my butt. I was thinking of using mapmyride.com and coming up with ~25 or 25.1 mile loop and parking my car at start with a cooler of extra bottles and gu and such. As it is I carry 2 x 24 oz bottles on my bike, usually one of gatorade, one of water.

As far as your swimming, I think 45 minutes should be enough since you also run and bike for endurance. I was talking to a lady who just completed a full olympic tri up in Lake Placid, NY and it is one of the hilliest ones out there. She said that as far as biking and swimming, once you have done about 3/4 of the distance in training you are set. Kind of like how they say for a marathon don't really dabble much past 22 or 23. You're ready to slice and dice man. Hopefully I get to see the race report. I'm going away to Canada from Aug. 7 to 14. I will try to check in though.

Keep up the hard training and you will smoke them come race day bud.

Cheers.

Benn Jammin way too Long time.

Thanks man. I don't really even know what to expect as far as time goes. I'm not a swimmer or a biker. I guess I am now anyway.

Sounds like you have a great training plan. Keep it up.

Joe Dirt?

Bounty of $50 if you take the ears in!

Good luck at the race Cheston. Let me know how it goes.

Thanks man, well do.

Man, Cheston! You're awesome! I hope I can build up to do a half iron man. I should put that as one of my goals. I'd have to work a lot on swimming, but I don't know how much I'd look forward to having people pull my ankles. That's nuts.

Thanks Burt.

You're right! 12 miles on a treadmill is a LONG way! Good job!

How have you been? sounds like your training ispaying off. You ready to rumble this year in saint George.

Bill, I'm good, thanks for asking. I'm in ok shape right now, not great. I'll be running the St. George this year with my wife. I kind of took the year off as far as trying to get faster is concerned.

Are you and your wife aware of the blogger party set up for the night before the marathon? You guys ought to come and check it out. The info is under 'featured announcements'. Good luck to you and your wife on the marathon. I think it sounds fun to run it together like that!

Hope to se you next week. it has been a while. looks like your in great shape.

We just may check out the party.

Thanks Bill. I'm sure I'm not as in good as shape as you are. I'm sure your running about 5 times the miles per week that I am right now.

Are you going for the ever elusive sub 3 hour marathon this year? I asked you once and you didn't say anything. I guess you want it to be a surprise.

I never really like telling people what I was hoping for, too much pressure.

I'm sure you'll get it if you want it. Of course I've been out of the loop so long you may have passed that hump a long time ago?

Great job, Cheston. I have a sprint triathlon coming up. Any pointers?

A sprint should be fairly easy to complete. You should focus on the transition from the swim, to the bike, to the run. Practice changing and laying out your gear. Having everthing right where you need it helps tons. Maybe purchase a number belt, so you don't have to worry about pinning it on after the swim. Being fast in the changing area will really save you some time and could mean the difference in placing or not.

HAHA. definitely got my attention.

I put 10,000 miles for one day, once, just to see who would say anything. It was kind of funny. I left it for a few days.

If you want to remove it, just edit your post and put the correct miles. Easy enough.

I thought you really ran that far Jon!

I know how to edit it, I was just kidding. I know some people out there get pretty excited when someone knocks then off the high mileage board for the week.

I haven't got a comment for over a month either. I was lonely and needed someone to talk to.

Thank you for you kindness. I'll remove my miles now.

The reason you're not getting comments is because you moved to the middle of nowhere! Move back a little closer to civilization and we might remember you! Just kidding Cheston... hope things are still going well for you out there. Have a great Christmas season.

Same to you man. Merry Christmas.