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Location:

San Antonio,TX,

Member Since:

Dec 13, 2009

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Other

Running Accomplishments:

5K PR - 18:01 - Nov '14

10K PR - 38:37 (workout) - Oct '14

Half-marathon - 1:22:43 - Jan '14

Marathon - 2:58:43 in Boston! - Apr '13

50 mile - 7:49:30 (2nd) - Nov '15

Short-Term Running Goals:

- Balance

- Run more trails, volunteer, more social running, run with a team

- Race a lot more.  learn.

Race results / possible schedule:

Apr 2 - Hells Hills 25k trail - 4th

Apr 9 - Toughest 'n Texas 20-mile Trail - 2nd

May 7 - Paleface - Trail Marathon - 3rd

May 29 - American Hero road 25k - 2nd

Jun 25 - Pedernales Falls 30k nighttime Trail - 5th (sick)

Jul 16 - Muleshoe Bend 30k nighttime Trail - 3rd

Jul 23-24 - Fossil Valley 9-hour nighttime Trail - 2nd

Aug 6 - Colorado Bend 30k nighttime Trail - 4th

Aug 27 - Reveille Peak 30k nighttime Trail (entered)

Sep 10 - Franklin Mountains 50k (entered - not all-out effort...I hope)

Sep 17 - Lighthouse Hill 20-mile trail (entered)

Sep 24 - J&J 50 mile trail

Long-Term Running Goals:

Compete in a few more ultras without going off course (again)

Sub-18 in a 5k

One.  Good.  Marathon.

Personal:

I started running at age 30, in late 2009.  I have 2 daughters (10 and 8 yrs old).

  

 

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Miles:This week: 0.00 Month: 0.00 Year: 0.00
Saucony A5 Lifetime Miles: 1054.70
Kinvara 2 - Gray/red Lifetime Miles: 1551.08
Kinvara 3 - Gray/red Lifetime Miles: 1244.23
1160s Lifetime Miles: 888.70
Saucony A5 Red Lifetime Miles: 565.10
Saucony A6 - Yellow Lifetime Miles: 214.00
Saucony A6 - Red/blue Lifetime Miles: 61.50
NB MT101 Trail Lifetime Miles: 302.00
Fastwitch 6 Red #1 Lifetime Miles: 286.50
Fastwitch 6 Red #2 Lifetime Miles: 267.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
2684.17366.023050.19
Fastwich Miles: 448.601150s Red #2 Miles: 462.821150s Red #1 Miles: 445.55Saucony A4 Miles: 292.56Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 416.42Kinvaras Miles: 346.20Saucony A5 Miles: 212.45Kinvara 1 - Blk/orange Miles: 343.20Mizuno Wave Universe Miles: 15.11Kinvara 2 - Gray/red Miles: 27.08Saucony A5 - Blue Miles: 11.13Kinvara 3 - Gray/red Miles: 29.08
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
17.140.0017.14

38F, NW 12 mph.  7:37 AP.  Felt pretty good again today, good run to start the new year.  Went out to the wind farms and back...a perfectly clear, cool day.  Time to taper now.

Also, time to point out that I am on top of the 2012 mileage board.  Enjoying it now since it will never happen again.

Fastwich Miles: 17.14
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From JG on Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 14:24:52 from 71.59.27.33

Top of leader board now ... & sub 3 in 2 weeks ... you are a rock star! :)

Happy New Year!

From derhammer on Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 16:19:31 from 70.113.125.159

Ah yes, but you finished the year number 22 on the board - almost 3k miles - which is a pretty significant achievement on this board!

From Rye on Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 20:45:26 from 174.27.105.171

Bonnie just past you. I agree, number 22 for the year is pretty darn good. Have a great week of tapering.

From I Just Run on Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 23:56:03 from 166.147.79.163

Congradulations on the Milage Board....Oh, I take it back! I just looked and your 2nd... :-(

From SlowJoe on Mon, Jan 02, 2012 at 13:03:34 from 74.195.74.62

JG - same to you!

dh - I did take notice of making the first page. 1200 miles more than last year...maybe 3k next year

IJR/Rye - yeah, it was a great couple hours while it lasted.

From JG on Mon, Jan 02, 2012 at 13:13:39 from 71.59.27.33

If you get a quick 10 in, you might be back up there .. For a couple more hours. Lol

From SlowJoe on Mon, Jan 02, 2012 at 13:21:17 from 74.195.74.62

I'll wait until Jan 1, 2013 to make my next move for the lead.

From Andrea on Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 12:37:27 from 72.37.171.52

Can't ever be upset about a PR! I agree with I Just Run...training is super consistent with some hard workouts, no real taper - you can't expect to feel awesome. Great race, I'm looking forward to those big PRs that are coming up.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
0.000.000.00

Day off today, great way to start a taper!  I will update my blog with 2012 goals and stuff after Houston; obviously a lot is contingent on how I do there.

As far as my racing schedule, that is completely up in the air.  I am separating from the military in a couple months and don't have a job yet (despite my best efforts), so I have no idea where we'll even be living.  Mostly looking in TX, but I am chasing a couple opportunities in OK and KS too.  We'll see what happens over the next couple months.

Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Rye on Mon, Jan 02, 2012 at 14:39:51 from 174.27.105.171

Hey Joe..... The west is a great place.... course you would have to get rid of that orange shirt... By the way, what do you do for a living?

From Burt on Mon, Jan 02, 2012 at 22:52:04 from 72.223.93.131

You may try the world's oldest and noblest profession of prostitution.

From seeaprilrun on Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 00:26:20 from 205.172.12.228

Where in Kansas? Kansas! Kansas! Kansas!

From SlowJoe on Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 11:45:16 from 132.3.53.68

Rye - I'm a B-1 WSO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weapon_Systems_Officer). No real equivalent in the civilian world, which is why I got my MBA. Hoping for something better than entry level, but who knows...

Burt - I am already doing that...I need a day job though.

April - Salina. It's actually the one I most want right now (full-time ANG, can't get better than that) but there's only 1 position and it's pretty competitive. Here's hoping anyway!

From I Just Run on Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 13:46:19 from 67.79.11.242

Good luck with the job hunt !!!

Just curious...does SlowJoe's Girl know about your "old and noble profession" ... :-)

From derhammer on Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 14:48:48 from 192.156.110.40

Good luck with the job hunt! I would hate to think of the scary mileage you would put up if you were out of work for a little bit. :-) (At least that is what I would be doing.)

From allie on Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 18:38:46 from 97.75.165.156

consider utah.

From Tracy on Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 20:18:50 from 50.103.225.65

I've been to Salina! That's where I met April and the fam!

Good luck with the taper. And good luck with the hunt for a civilian job!

From SlowJoe on Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 21:44:42 from 74.195.74.62

IJR - uh, yeah, how do you think we met?

dh - yeah the mileage would get a little out of control for sure.

allie - consider it considered!

Tracy - thanks - I wish finding a job was as easy as running!

From I Just Run on Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 15:25:23 from 67.79.11.242

Duhhhh... I don't know what in the world I was thinking. :-)

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.040.008.04

34F.  7:46/mile.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 8.04
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.070.006.07

42F, NNW 12 mph.  8:36 AP.  Easy today, last workout of the cycle is tomorrow.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.07
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From JG on Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 15:50:49 from 71.59.27.33

Isn't taper time fun?! I am getting excited for you!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.003.009.00

29F, calm.  7:28 AP.  I had the track to myself for this last workout this morning.  Pfitz says that 10 days is the amount of time you need to fully recover and reap the benefits of a workout, and I'm 10 days out now.  The workout that he has in every one of his plans is 3 x 1600 @ 5K pace (800m recoveries).  I have no idea why that would be the last workout before a marathon but figure he's a lot smarter than me about training, so I did it.  Hard workout.  The only saving grace (and probably the only reason it's even an achieveable workout for me) is that you get 800m to recover, and there's only 3 repeats.  So, 5K pace is 6:00 for me, which means I needed 5:58 per 1600 repeat.  First, about a 3 mile warmup, then:

5:59 (91, 90, 89, 89)

4:14 recovery

5:58 (86, 89, 91, 92)

4:26 recovery

5:58 (89, 90, 91, 88)

Finished with a 2 mile cooldown.  So, just a fraction of a second slow on the first repeat.  Tough workout for me, probably means I needed it.  I hated every minute of it, especially having to make up time on that last 400.  But it's done!  Now I get to do easy/moderate runs the rest of the way...

Saucony A4 Miles: 9.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From derhammer on Thu, Jan 05, 2012 at 11:21:16 from 192.156.110.34

ha, yes, tough workout. It will make marathon pace seem slow and helps with turnover while giving a bit of boost to V02max. Good job, man. I have my fingers crossed for good weather!!

From JG on Thu, Jan 05, 2012 at 11:58:34 from 71.59.27.33

Great job nailing 3 sub 6' s! Just think how fun that workout will be after you run a 17:30 5k! :)

Rest up & fuel up! Are you going to watch the trials to get pumped up? I was given a Prefontaine movie to watch the night before my BQ, and I can honestly say that is what gave me the mental edge to push through and accomplish my goal, as I ran way faster than I had trained for!

From I Just Run on Thu, Jan 05, 2012 at 12:26:27 from 67.79.11.242

I'm really beginning to like my Repeat workouts...too bad we don't live closer together, I could actually run these with you :-) I'm sure you feel a sense of accomplishment even though this was a hard workout!

From Rye on Thu, Jan 05, 2012 at 14:44:59 from 71.209.58.41

Enjoy!!! You are going to have a great race!

From Andrea on Thu, Jan 05, 2012 at 15:00:18 from 72.37.244.100

Gotta love finishing the last hard workout before the race. Great job.

From Dan on Thu, Jan 05, 2012 at 22:25:16 from 24.209.83.20

Great job Joe. I honestly only see one flaw. You said " Pfitz says that 10 days..."

Since you are running by pfeel, what does Joe say?

Dan says well done!

From Kelli on Thu, Jan 05, 2012 at 23:02:28 from 71.219.84.120

Holy crap! That is one tough workout! Do you know I was running that same speed yesterday for my speed workout? And I had to maintain it for a whole freakin' minute! a minute!!! And you did it for a mile. IMPRESSED! Nicely done. Now REST!

From SlowJoe on Thu, Jan 05, 2012 at 23:18:28 from 74.195.74.62

dh - ok, see I thought it was just a sick joke but maybe you're right about the purpose.

JG - the route for the trials goes about a mile from my parents' house...and they pass by it 3 times, so no excuses not to go!

IJR - I hate repeats. It probably would help me a lot to have you there!

Thanks Rye, here's hoping.

Andrea - nice to be done, thanks!

Dan - see, that's why I put the "p" in pfeel. For when I need some pfreakin' help!

Kelli - yeah I saw your one minute...TIMES 23!! I'm never going that fast again until my next 5k, that's for sure...

From Kelli on Thu, Jan 05, 2012 at 23:33:27 from 71.219.84.120

Geesh, I would be happy if i could do that for a mile, let alone a 5k!

From flatlander on Thu, Jan 05, 2012 at 23:54:23 from 210.71.190.43

We really need to hook up for that weekend, at least watch the trials together.

From seeaprilrun on Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 23:32:12 from 205.172.12.228

very tough workout but great job! Impressive sub 6s on the track!

From JulieC on Sat, Jan 07, 2012 at 21:46:05 from 71.35.251.22

8 days to go....who's counting :D. MORE IMPORTANTLY 8 NIGHTS to SLEEP WELL and rest up :D. Okay 7 nights. Who sleeps the night before a marathon? way to go on those mile repeats!!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.100.005.10

43F, 8:38 AP.  early.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 5.10
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Rye on Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 14:33:28 from 174.27.78.121

Hey Easy...

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.650.407.05

41F, N 11 mph.  7:42 AP, which included 5 or 6 strides.

Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 7.05
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From JG on Sat, Jan 07, 2012 at 17:35:10 from 71.59.27.33

Nice run with some strides to keep you sharp!

From Dan on Sat, Jan 07, 2012 at 21:30:45 from 141.0.10.216

Thinking the same thing, reminding the legs that they are fast!

From SlowJoe on Sat, Jan 07, 2012 at 21:33:49 from 74.195.74.62

thanks guys, yeah that is the hope!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
13.000.0013.00

36F, 7:38 AP.  Felt good, I gave myself a speed limit again at 7:30 pace.  Good sign that I kept having to slow down, I think.  Taper might be starting to work a little.

Fastwich Miles: 13.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From ACorn on Sun, Jan 08, 2012 at 13:04:46 from 24.2.76.146

Great run and I would agree that it's a good sign that the pace was easy for you. Can't wait to see how it turns out. Youve put in the training and time so you should be proud!

From derhammer on Sun, Jan 08, 2012 at 13:38:26 from 70.113.125.159

usually a good sign.

From Burt on Sun, Jan 08, 2012 at 16:03:13 from 72.223.93.131

The question is, do you have the mental fortitude to write yourself a speeding ticket?

From JG on Sun, Jan 08, 2012 at 20:26:24 from 71.59.27.33

That is awesome that pace felt easy ... but dude, what are you doing running 13 miles! :) I know that is not in the Pfitz plan!!

From I Just Run on Sun, Jan 08, 2012 at 22:12:35 from 12.162.141.2

Sounds like you're about ready...I'm getting excited for you...!!!

From seeaprilrun on Mon, Jan 09, 2012 at 05:32:19 from 205.172.12.228

When 7:30 pace is a walk in the park, you are in sub-3 shape.

From derhammer on Mon, Jan 09, 2012 at 10:58:54 from 192.156.110.40

yeah - what JG said! I hope you are sleeping in today.

From Steam8 on Mon, Jan 09, 2012 at 20:14:55 from 166.70.55.77

OKAY...OKAY...thanks for rubbing in the speed FASTJOE! :) Unbelievable run! Nice job!

From SlowJoe on Mon, Jan 09, 2012 at 23:18:56 from 74.195.74.62

ACorn - thanks, looking forward to running the dang race already

Burt - yes, I gave myself a ticket but I plead not guilty. Hopefully I don't show up in court as a witness.

JG - he did, I swear! Actually he talked me down from the 15 I WAS going to do.

IJR - thanks, me too.

April - is that really how it works?

dh - I got about 2 hours of sleep and had to start working. One of those days.

Thanks Steam!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
3.500.003.50

30 min on the TM (had to stay by my phone and email) in the evening was all I could fit in.  Probably all I needed too, so it worked out.

Weather is looking scary good for Houston right now.  Low 40s, cloudy, 6 mph wind.  In both my other 2 marathons it was pouring rain the whole time and either hot or windy; I might be in uncharted territory here.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 3.50
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Dan on Mon, Jan 09, 2012 at 21:46:46 from 24.209.83.20

Here's for uncharted territory! Tapers leave the mind free to examine such things... scary

From Rye on Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 00:06:33 from 174.27.78.121

Are you totally excited or what?!!! The mind of a marathon runner??!!!!!!

From derhammer on Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 11:21:24 from 192.156.110.40

Oh man, the weather is looking absolutely perfect for a marathon. You are going to do great. I plan on seeing you in Boston in 2013!

From SlowJoe on Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 18:03:09 from 132.3.53.68

Thanks guys - I've been so busy with work and such that I actually haven't thought about the race that much until now. But now my mind is finally free to worry about everything.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
7.000.007.00

40F, WNW 11 mph.  7:52 AP.  Felt pretty hard actually.  Weird, probably just a sleep defecit.  No more long, late nights at work though, I've babysat my last overseas mission and now someone else gets the late night stress!  "Dress rehearsal" run is tomorrow (8 w/ 2).

1150s Red #2 Miles: 7.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From JG on Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 13:55:51 from 71.59.27.33

Glad you were able to pass the baton on your project ... good nights rest and fueling is as important as anything the rest of the week. Oh & I called Pfitz, he changed his mind & thinks you should do 6/w 2. :)

Awesome the weather is looking good, you have raced in some tough conditions & that make a huge difference! You are soooo going to rock Houston, I am really excited for you Joe!

From seeaprilrun on Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 20:30:13 from 72.205.224.129

Yes! Good weather in the forecast and a little taper twitchiness. You are in perfect shape. Do I need your bib to track you?

From CookieLegs on Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 09:58:29 from 70.56.100.139

You've been running awesome all year! I'm with JG, I pfeel 6/2 is better... Now rest up your legs and then hit the marathon itching to run! Good luck with all!

From SlowJoe on Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 17:59:24 from 132.3.53.68

JG - thanks man, sorry I had to go 8/2, but thanks for calling Pfitz on my behalf

April - bib # is 1772. I think if you go to the website there is some way to track, although it might involve getting annoying text messages every 5k.

CL - thanks, I'm definitely in full-on rest mode now.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.002.008.00

39F...yet there was definite frost hardened on windshields and roofs.  After this marathon I will be publishing my research paper revealing the new freezing temperature of water.

7:25 AP.  Today was the dress rehearsal run, but my marathon clothes were dirty so I guess that didn't work out.  I did wear the shoes though.  4 easy, then 2 sub-MP miles in the high 6:40s, followed by 2 easy.  Felt really good and light on my feet.  Hopefully I feel like this on Sunday, and not like I did yesterday.

Weather is looking ridiculously good for the race.  Maybe a slight (5-6 mph) headwind on the last 5 miles going back downtown but that is hardly enough to even notice.

Saucony A4 Miles: 8.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 12:45:10 from 67.79.11.242

Just enought breeze on the last 5-6 miles to let your hair wave in the wind as you smile and wave to the screeming croud!

From Steam8 on Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 18:16:45 from 166.70.55.77

I'm so excited for your race! Can't wait! Good luck!!

From allie on Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 18:28:03 from 161.38.218.168

light and fast and ready to go -- best of luck on sunday! you'll do great. glad to hear the weather will be on your side. don't forget to wash your clothes.

you are going to have to change your name to fastjoe after sunday. eh? eh? i bet you never heard that one before.

From Rye on Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 01:21:45 from 174.27.101.157

Make sure that ugly orange shirt is washed!

From DaleG on Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 02:26:57 from 152.216.3.5

Good luck at the marathon.

Doing some research of my own, I have found that super-cooled liquid water must become ice at minus 55 degrees below zero Fahrenheit because the molecular structure of water changes physically with each water molecule loosely bonded to four others.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.070.005.07

28F, NNW 11 mph, w/c 19F.  8:45 AP with a few strides.  Taking tomorrow off, then a short run on Saturday.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 5.07
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From derhammer on Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 11:12:47 from 192.156.110.40

Initiate countdown!

From flatlander on Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 14:11:29 from 198.207.244.102

That's really cold. Good job though.

From I Just Run on Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 17:32:50 from 67.79.11.242

Cruising time....!

From JulieC on Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 00:05:20 from 168.103.185.108

time is ticking....you are almost to the starting line. SLEEP WELL!!

From JG on Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 16:55:27 from 71.59.27.33

Best of luck Joe! Run smart, stay strong, dig deep ... and crush that final 10k!

From Dan on Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 22:56:20 from 24.209.83.20

Leave it all... you are going to do great!

From SlowJoe on Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 13:09:34 from 98.201.152.210

Thanks everyone, got some good inspiration watching the trials and ready to do this!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
2.330.002.33

Went downtown to meet Flatlander for some inspiration at the olympic trials.  We got to watch a couple loops and it was pretty cool.  I yelled for Paul a couple times and got a confused stare, like "who are you...?"  Then I had to bail to get in my own little shakeout run.  I ran from my parents' house to Allen Parkway and the timing worked out to where I got to stop and see the women leaders come flying by around mile 23.  There was a definite top 3 - Davila, Flanagan and Goucher, I think, with no one really that close.  Then I jogged home after 5th place came by.

Weather for tomorrow - looking good.  46F to start, 56F at the finish, but cloudy.  Shouldn't be too hot.

Goals for tomorrow:

A+ stretch goal:  sub-3.  Not planning on going out fast enough to make this happen, but you never know.

A goal:  3:05 and a BQ

B goal:  there is no B goal.  Sink or swim!

Bib # is 1772.  I think there's a way to track here if anyone is interested.

Saucony A4 Miles: 2.33
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From derhammer on Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 17:18:05 from 70.113.125.159

We are all pulling for you!!

From Steam8 on Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 19:43:15 from 166.70.55.77

GOOOOOD LUCK! I can't wait to watch and read the report after!!!

From Rye on Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 20:06:36 from 174.27.113.68

Best of luck to you! Looking forward to the report. Hint....wear your lucky orange shirt....

From Dan on Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 22:02:54 from 24.209.83.20

Run your race! I will be keeping tabs and look forward to the report!

From seeaprilrun on Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 10:22:28 from 174.70.177.122

I'm tracking you holy cow you are at 6:54 pace at the 30k mark!!!

From derhammer on Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 11:07:29 from 70.113.125.159

Awesome, job, Joe! 3:01!! You rocked it. You have to be happy. You earned it man, enjoy!

From JG on Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 11:40:54 from 71.59.27.33

Congratulations Joe! Those are awesome 5k splits, all within 22 seconds of each other! Sounds like you ran a great race, what a huge PR jump! You earned it brother, you are a great inspiration!!

From Steam8 on Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 12:04:55 from 166.70.55.77

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!! FASTJOE!!! Boston next year!!!!

Race: Houston Marathon (26.2 Miles) 03:01:10, Place overall: 269, Place in age division: 57
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
0.0026.2026.20

BQ!

50F to start, 58F at the finish, clear.

Miles 1-5: 6:59, 6:44, 6:51, 6:46, 6:51.  At the starting line I found myself right between the 3:00 and 3:10 pace groups, which is where I wanted to be.  Crowded for the first mile, but managed to get myself right on pace (looking for 7:00/mile to ensure BQ).  Then I started to get just a little carried away.  I let myself turn in a few 6:40s, but as long as it still just felt like a trot, I was ok with it.  21:19 at the 5K.  There was a huge group running with the 3:00 pacers.  I thought about going up there to draft, but then watched the chaos when they went through the aid stations and backed off.

Miles 6-10: 6:50, 6:49, 6:52, 6:56, 6:57.  After passing through the 10k in 42:40, and still 50-100m behind the 3-hr group, I started to wise up.  It still felt very easy, but it needs to feel very easy at that point, so I backed off just a little bit.  After 10 miles, the pace still felt like a trot, so I was very encouraged.

Miles 11-15: 6:47, 6:54, 6:52, 6:52, 6:54.  Just feeling great through this stretch.  I hit the half in 1:30:16, still keeping my eye on the 3:00 group.  I really was not that interested in sub-3 compared to getting the BQ, so there was a lot of back and forth in my brain about whether to step it out and go for the sub-3.  I kept deciding to save my energy and not blow the BQ by getting greedy.

Miles 16-20: 6:53, 6:53, 6:54, 6:45, 6:51.  Aerobically, I was sailing through this section, still barely breathing.  However, it no longer felt like an easy trot on my legs.  I was definitely having to push off a lot more to maintain the same pace.  I also started passing people here, and almost never got passed myself, which was a big mental boost.  At mile 20 my time was right around 2:18 and it was time to make a decision.  The sun was coming out and it was getting a bit warmer; there was also a 5-7 mph east wind (headwind) all the way to the finish.  I just felt there was no way I could bang out a 42-min 10k the way my legs were losing steam.  So, I stuck with the pace I was at, and it was the right call.

Miles 21-26.2: 6:53, 6:54, 6:54, 6:56, 7:00, 7:37, 1:54 for 0.25 (7:27).  Still banging out some great miles on the underpasses on the home stretch.  Saw the family right at mile 23; they took this shot.

I'll post some better pictures next week!  Anyway, I kept doing the math, seeing how slow I could run and still BQ.  With about 2 miles to go I was just passing people left and right, making what probably sounded like animal noises as I grunted my way past.  I hit the wall (again, 2 marathons in a row) in the last mile.  It didn’t help that the buildings downtown really funneled the headwind at us.  I really picked up the effort and kept seeing a slower and slower pace.  It felt like I was sprinting, yet I could only throw down a 7:37 final mile.  Finally, after about 26.1 miles, I stopped concentrating on my race and it hit me what I was about to do.  I did some celebratory fist pumps as the emotion finally caught up to me and crossed the line in 3:01:10.  Very close to even-splitting (1:30:16/1:30:54).  Pacing could not have been better.

I hung out with my sister and ate a huge bacon burger after finishing.  Waited for Danielle, who did not PR, but finished despite a couple ailments that had her almost deciding not to run at all.

Well, I am going to Boston in 2013.  I first got the idea to try and reach this goal 2 years ago, soon after I first started running.  I thought it would probably take 5 years to get to 3:10, which was a BQ at the time.  I have been so lucky that I’ve remained mostly uninjured and have had just about everything go right for me with my training.  Also lucky that there’s so much support here on FRB.  Thanks everyone.

Not sure what races will be next for me; chances are we’re moving to Oklahoma soon.  What I do know is that I will take a shot a sub-3 somewhere, hopefully before summer hits.  And I have a good 15 months to train for Boston, so expecting good things there.

Ok, time to bask a bit.

Saucony A4 Miles: 26.20
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Fritz on Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 17:11:28 from 173.10.22.170

Great job. Looks like everything came together today. Nice even split.

From ACorn on Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 17:22:01 from 24.2.76.146

Way to go! Very solid, your dedication to your training and determination paid off huge. Big congrats!

From Claudio on Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 17:24:47 from 96.234.239.20

Congratulations on an excellent job SlowJoe! Right on!

From jtshad on Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 18:19:28 from 69.20.183.178

Congrats on the great race and BQ!

From Burt on Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 19:50:50 from 72.223.93.131

Very appropriate that the picture was taken in front of a graveyard, since you look like a zombie. Ha! I crack myself up. What was this post about? Oh yeah. You're BQ! Seriously, I'm impressed. Awesome!

From Dan on Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 20:49:09 from 24.209.83.20

Awesome! Congrats Joe, that first BQ is sweet and if you sounded like an animal passing people I think you probably should sound like one in your basking meal! Enjoy it man.

From Rachelle on Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 21:01:11 from 66.7.127.115

Congrats!!! That is so exciting.

From Rye on Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 21:53:24 from 174.27.113.68

Bask away my friend, you deserve it! Great, great race! When are you moving? Hope that move works for you and the family! Again, congrats and celebrate by purchasing a new orange shirt!

From seeaprilrun on Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 00:57:27 from 174.70.177.122

Incredible Joe! That is the most evenly paced, smartly run marathon I have ever seen. Fantastic! You were wise and patient with your decision and it paid off! Now that BQ is out of the way, you can go balls to the wall and get that sub-3! If ya move to Oklahoma you will be closer to us. Cool.

From flatlander on Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 10:36:43 from 76.31.26.153

I pulled up the website and it was the best tracker I have ever seen for a marathon. They had your final time posted right after 10:00, within seconds of when you actually finished. I thought a marathon was 41K, so when I saw you at 2:51 something for 40K I thought you had a sub-3 in the bag. Now that I see your report it makes sense, you made the right call, but I'm pretty sure this is the last marathon you will ever run with a 3 in front of it. Congratulations.

From I Just Run on Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 11:02:43 from 67.79.11.242

Yoooo...HOoooo...Yah...Hoooo...Wowwww....!!!!! This is really COOOOl....!!!!

Way to go Joe, I'm so happy for you. I'll comment more later...in a hurry to go to a meeting.

From Dave S on Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 11:46:29 from 4.254.222.42

Awesome race!! Looks like you paced it perfectly. The fact you had no slowing until the last mile shows you ran it perfectly!

From JulieC on Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 12:35:14 from 67.41.188.16

EXTREMELY IMPRESSIVE!!! : D All the hard work paid off!!! Congrats on the BQ as well!!

From SlowJoe on Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 18:08:04 from 74.195.74.62

Thanks everyone, it was really a perfect day all around.

Burt - the funny thing is I knew they would be waiting there but I still ran on the opposite side of the street because they were standing on the outside of the curve...not gonna waste even 1 second!

Rye - I could never run in a different orange shirt now!

April - yeah that's what I was thinking too...nothing to lose now! We'll definitely have to meet up at some races now that we'll be geographically closer.

Flat - Glad the tracker was so good. I definitely hope to see a 2-something next time. The BQ is awesome but having that extra minute is going to get old soon!

From Jake K on Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 19:08:08 from 67.177.21.60

Joe - awesome run! Those are some of the most even splits I have ever seen from a marathon race report! You worked hard and executed a great race, congrats! On to Boston 2013! :-) You'll get your Sub-3 there!

From SlowJoe on Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 19:16:21 from 74.195.74.62

Thanks Jake, the flat course definitely helped my pacing efforts. Gotta do something about mile 26 though....

From allie on Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 20:30:38 from 97.117.82.156

congratulations, joe. what a great race -- perfectly paced and strong all the way to the end. congrats on the BQ! you prepared well and executed your race perfectly.

you should bask in bacon all week.

From Jon on Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 21:30:10 from 98.71.175.203

Huge congrats on a BQ. If you hit the wall, mile 25 is a pretty good place to do it. Much better than mile 18!

From Kelli on Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 22:36:50 from 71.219.84.120

Solid race! And SMART race. :o) I am so happy for you! you have certainly put in the hard work and it sure did pay off! YEAH BOSTON 2013! Hopefully we will be joining you!

Looking forward to reading that sub-3 report within the year, you for sure have it in you!

From Smooth on Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 02:21:09 from 75.162.95.99

WOW!!! EXCELLENT pacing!!! You ran a very smart race near perfect even splits!!! CONGRATZ on the BQ! VERY AWESOME!!!! :)

From SlowJoe on Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 12:30:00 from 132.3.53.68

Allie - thanks. I'm on a strict 10 slice/day minimum right now

Jon - true, I can definitely live with 25 good miles and 1 bad one.

Kelli - awesome, I hope to see y'all there....eventually!

Smooth - thanks! Sometimes everything just comes together perfectly.

From Andrea on Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 12:30:50 from 72.37.244.100

Congrats on an awesome performance at Houston! You hit the BQ easily and, like others said, you're pacing was pretty incredible.

From SlowJoe on Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 12:33:00 from 132.3.53.68

Thanks Andrea, it was definitely a good feeling when I started to realize my little time cushion would hold up.

From baldnspicy on Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 16:15:56 from 72.63.175.35

Nothing more to say than has already been said, Joe! Congratulations! Never doubted this day would come for you. Way to go!!

From Tracy on Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 07:32:33 from 50.103.242.148

What an awesome accomplishment, Joe! You've come a long way since you started this blog!

From JimmySG on Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 17:48:54 from 168.178.87.26

Way to go... very smart race and performance. I would love to run a race like that.

From Neil on Thu, Feb 02, 2012 at 11:06:28 from 164.165.24.5

A little late in seeing this but congrats!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
0.000.000.00

My legs are trashed.  I think running on all the concrete in my lightest pair of flats is going to make for a long recovery - my first 2 marathons were in trainers.  But, who cares?

Now the obligatory post-marathon analysis and thoughts, before I have to start looking forward again.

Here are the 5K splits:

 

Ok, I thought my watch was acting funky as we were going through downtown at the end.  This tells me that the last mile could not have been as slow as Garmin thought, as I actually maintained basically the same pace for the final 2.195K (7:07/mile if you do the math).  Same effort given the headwind, I think.  Garmin just shortchanged me there at the end as we went through the tall buildings.  Makes sense because I was carrying an extra tenth of a mile on my watch (compared to the mile markers) and then somehow lost it in the last mile.  So, the good news is I don't think I ever hit any wall.  That is good to know.

Before I figured that out just now, I was thinking there was nothing I could have done to get sub-3, since I thought I was in the process of bonking at the end (stupid Garmin).  Now I wonder if maybe if I had stayed and drafted with the pace group, it would've been a different story.  But in the end I don't care.  Now that the monkey is off my back, I can go for broke trying to crack 3 hours next time.

This was the most fun part of the marathon:

I guess it is not the norm to run even-paced splits, although you would never know that with all the awesome runners that do it on FRB.

Looking ahead to the next marathon before I get depressed about this one being over, I am thinking about a few possibilites for this Spring, including Big D (Dallas in April - hot?), Oklahoma city in late April, Arbuckles to Ardmore (Oklahoma, April 1st), and Eisenhower (Kansas, mid-April) since we will probably live closest to those 4.  Will probably decide a lot later.  Gotta run another one before summer hits.  Then, I will probably run a different Fall marathon (not Houston) to give me a nice full training period before Boston.  Maybe Route 66 or White Rock...

Finally, here's the finish line video for a little entertainment (gun time 3:01:26).  I was a little excited.

Weight: 0.00
Comments
From ACorn on Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 14:08:51 from 68.66.168.22

Awesome fist pump at the end! You looked stoked and rightfully so. Big congrats and awesome consistency in that race. Rest your feet and lower legs and eat some junk!

From Burt on Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 14:25:34 from 68.14.209.26

Were you thinking about punching Oprah?

From Dan on Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 21:10:42 from 24.209.83.20

Love the video, you should be excited. Very cool. I was interested in your finish and glad you came up with that Garmin info. I was going to ask you some fueling questions since I seem to run that last mile the fastest (last two marathons anyway- I attribute that to our 10 mile warm ups :) and fuel), but if you got it worked all that's even better. Congrats again and feel free to punch Oprah.

From I Just Run on Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 14:28:28 from 67.79.11.242

I was just "impressed" by your race and the consistancy but now, after looking at this extended report, I'm "REALLY IMPRESSED"...!!! Only 3 seconds difference on all of the splits...!!! I can't run that even of splits on the treadmill :-)

From Steam8 on Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 00:35:35 from 166.70.55.77

Loved your video! I am so excited for you! I know that feeling. I felt like I was on a high for 2 weeks. Congrats!!!

From Rye on Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 16:40:24 from 71.209.34.12

Whats up..... you think you need a day or two to rest???? By the way, loved the video.. fist pumping is sooo awesome!

From SlowJoe on Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 09:54:26 from 132.3.53.68

Acorn - thanks, no problem there, I've been on a fast food diet since we've gotten back.

Burt - yes. I mean no.

Dan - yeah I was thinking fuel too, but you're right, those 10-mile warmups are key!

IJR - thanks man, it definitely helps when every mile is flat!

Steam - it's almost too bad we have to come back down to reality.

Rye - yeah this one took a toll for sure, long recovery; definitely left it all out there.

From derhammer on Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 11:08:55 from 192.156.110.33

Cool video, next time I expect 10 push ups at the end. :-)

Ryan Hall said he was wearing flats and expected his legs to be trashed, while Shalane switched to a more substantial shoe because of the concrete. Who is right, who is wrong? One never knows about these things. But yeah, your legs will be sore for a while.

Spring marathon, huh? This subject came up in our running group. I ran 3 last year and Boston this year - that is 4 marathons in a 14 month period. You can do it, but be prepared to be mentally tired and drained. This Boston training is not easy because of that. If it were not Boston I was training for I would not do another one for a while. Of course, you are a young pup so maybe you can handle it better than me.

Again, congrats on a phenomenal race.

From SlowJoe on Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 18:02:19 from 74.195.74.62

dh - yeah I'd like to get into a cycle of 1 spring and 1 fall marathon, making them a bit more evenly spaced. Houston is just right in the middle of running season (makes for a short turn to the next race), so I think I might not do it next year.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
3.040.003.04

evening "run," 8:54 AP.  Still not ready to run though, wow.  Afterward my calf and hammy on the right leg were all sore.  I think the calf may have even been mildly strained at the marathon; it was making me walk funny until Wednesday.  Feels ok now, but I'm skipping the Friday run and will try to plod through a few on Saturday.  This is definitely my toughest marathon recovery of the 3 I have done.  I think it's because of the flats, but it was definitely worth the extra minute or two that they probably saved me.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 3.04
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Dan on Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 22:58:48 from 24.209.83.20

I wore flats my last two, but it always takes me a long time to recover. I am sure you will be at it in no time. Take care of the legs though, they were good to you :)

From flatlander on Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 09:57:48 from 76.31.26.153

Hope you are feeling better, that longer recovery is absolutely because of the flats. They are a whole different ball game, but worth it in my opinion.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
0.000.000.00

 whoops, moved this entry to Sat.  Fri was a day off

Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Rye on Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 11:26:17 from 174.27.108.94

Rest up my friend.... Hey it's still raining in Idaho !!!!?????

From seeaprilrun on Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 00:37:30 from 205.172.12.229

I think the concrete in Houston really tears your legs up. I was much less sore after Saint George. Also I think flat courses make your legs sorer because you are always using the same muscles.. maybe?

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

31F, N 14 mph.  Yesterday the high was 82, and we got a low of 29 this morning.  That's a pretty big drop.

8:13 AP on this run.  Still feeling pretty beat up everywhere, but today was a little better than Thursday.  Amazing how long the soreness is lasting, I really tore my poor leg muscles to shreds out there.  I'll add a few more tomorrow then another rest day.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
7.670.007.67

55F, SSW 20-28 mph.  8:16 AP.  Legs are less sore but still quite dead.   I did get a sub-8 mile on the way home with a tailwind though!

I'll take another day off tomorrow and we'll see what that does.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 7.67
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Rye on Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 16:47:14 from 174.27.88.169

You'll be ready before you know it. Good run anyway today.

From Dan on Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 23:30:50 from 24.209.83.20

Yep keep recovering, looks good.

From I Just Run on Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 10:22:02 from 67.79.11.242

Good run...but make sure you've given your body time to heal!

BTW...OK City...? I'm thinking about doing it again.

From SlowJoe on Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 14:33:56 from 132.3.53.68

Rye & Dan - thanks

IJR - I am strongly considering OKC. If we end up moving there, it will probably seal the deal...

From seeaprilrun on Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 07:48:48 from 68.103.254.215

Pokin' ya back. I wrote something. Not much, but I wrote something. It's moving week, but I am optimistic that by next week I will be blogging normally, and perhaps even training more. Hopefully hopefully. Congrat on your sub 8.

From SlowJoe on Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 09:25:29 from 132.3.53.68

Yuck, moving week. We'll have one of those soon enough...not looking forward to it.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
7.100.007.10

49F, SE 13 mph.  8:06/mile today.  Heavy legs, easily out of breath....but better.  2 sub-8 miles today.  Yes, 2.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 7.10
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:54:35 from 67.79.11.242

You just can't hold back...can you? Good run so soon after your race!

How's your wife now after the race?

From SlowJoe on Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:59:19 from 132.3.53.68

IJR - thanks - patience is not a strength of mine, but this whole week will still be pretty mild. Danielle might have recovered a little better than I did, but we were both a little gimpy for awhile!

From flatlander on Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 16:36:43 from 198.207.244.102

This is your kids' chance to run wild. One of you better recover quick.

From seeaprilrun on Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 17:43:04 from 68.103.254.215

Twice as many as your last run! Sweet!

From allie on Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 17:46:41 from 97.126.211.101

looking good, joe. no rush...

From Dan on Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 20:16:03 from 24.209.83.20

Good job, as many sub 8 miles as me lol

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
10.000.0010.00

45F, N 15-20 mph, wet.  7:52 AP.  Sluggish, but managed to pick up the pace just a little on the way home.

Fastwich Miles: 10.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Dan on Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 16:39:40 from 24.209.83.20

So much for takin it slow :) Nice run.

From ACorn on Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 17:04:56 from 68.66.168.22

Looks like you're back and quickly returning to form!

From Steam8 on Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 22:13:58 from 166.70.55.77

7:52 sluggish? I would be doing cartwheels if I ran10 and averaged that! Nice run FASTJoe!

From I Just Run on Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 22:17:49 from 166.147.78.155

Wow! You must be planning another race soon...what's it going to be?

From Rye on Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 22:54:27 from 174.27.88.169

Your back and fast! NICE.

From flatlander on Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 09:42:56 from 76.31.26.153

Guys, this is not fast for Joe, it's almost a minute slower than his marathon pace. Joe, I think you are still recovering. Basically, a marathon is a 20-miler (which we do pretty often) with a fast 10K added to the back. That 10K translates into weeks of recovery, for whatever reason. (I'm amazed at how smart I am.)

From SlowJoe on Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 22:22:26 from 24.139.44.147

Dan/Acorn/Steam - thanks!

IJR - My next marathon is in April....depending on where we move, it'll be OKC or one in Kansas in mid-April

Rye - thanks

Flat - Yeah, it really is amazing the extra recovery needed for the few extra miles of a marathon. Especially for me apparently! 7:52 sure felt fast yesterday...

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.000.005.00

48F. Evening run in Lawton, OK.  I ran from my hotel, which apparently is not in a good part of town...whoops.  Kinda shady, but I just needed a short recovery run.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 5.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Burt on Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 21:29:38 from 174.254.14.57

You better pack some heat.

From I Just Run on Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 14:40:44 from 67.79.11.242

...or run really fast!!!

From Rye on Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 12:34:47 from 174.27.82.52

Burt ... You should know that fast joe is from Texas and they all pack there. Joe have I missed something? Is this trip job related?

From Burt on Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 12:41:58 from 72.223.87.73

I hope he doesn't turn into a softy moving to OK.

From SlowJoe on Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 13:56:17 from 74.195.74.62

I think I'm the only guy in TX that doesn't own a gun.

Rye - yeah, possible future job

From I Just Run on Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 14:04:13 from 166.147.79.208

Rye...you need to know that most Texans don't like people to know they're packing...!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

38F.  7:51 AP.  Back in TX, will try 15+ tomorrow.  My legs are starting to feel right again, but just feel out of shape cardio-wise.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From flatlander on Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 16:57:53 from 76.31.26.153

Welcome back, I'm sure your cardio will be back in very short order.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
15.500.0015.50

41F, S 14 mph.  7:33 AP.  I pushed it up to a more moderate pace finally, kinda trying to force my cardio to come back.  I got a little tired at the end though, still recovering I guess.  Maybe next week I'll push out a tempo to see where I'm at.  Time to stop puttering around and get back at it if I'm going to run an April marathon.

Kinvaras Miles: 15.50
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From FREYGUY on Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 10:27:00 from 12.186.80.1

Your training, goals, and Personal profile hit close to home. If everything goes will, I'll see you in Boston 4/2013.

From ACorn on Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 16:57:32 from 68.66.168.22

You're running really well slowjoe!

From Kelli on Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 18:02:58 from 71.219.85.126

Time to change your blog name to "SO NOT Slow Joe"

From SlowJoe on Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 20:29:59 from 74.195.74.62

Frey - you're right...have you picked a race to BQ at yet? What time do you need to run?

ACorn - thanks man, starting to feel almost recovered finally

Kelli - no, I need the reverse psychology thing

From Steam8 on Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 20:37:33 from 166.70.55.77

KELLI...I agree! I have been trying to get him to change his name for months! 7:33 ave...that makes me want to cry! I wish I was faster! If reverse psych works, I better change my name to NOSTEAM!

From seeaprilrun on Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 21:18:05 from 205.172.12.229

you are hardly puttering around! I truly have been puttering around. Maybe when you visit Wichita we can push each other to run an actual tempo--something I haven't done in quite some time.

From SlowJoe on Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 22:09:03 from 74.195.74.62

Steam - that's the secret - self-degrade into submission.

April - tempo sounds good. Although I'm not looking forward to writing about how you dropped me a mile into it.

From FREYGUY on Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 07:53:13 from 12.186.80.1

Looking at Carmel, IN on April 21st. I haven't signed up yet though. I've been trying to BQ for a few years now. My gameplan is to run a good half or possibly a 63 minute 10 miler (Papa John's 10 miler in Louisville, KY on March 31st) before signing up. What about you?

From SlowJoe on Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 09:50:27 from 132.3.53.68

Frey - sounds like a good plan. Since I only hit the BQ by 4 min, I'm going to take a whack at BQ-5 in April (depending on where I am living, it'll be OK City or one in Kansas). I don't think BQ-5 will be necessary to successfully register this year, but would be nice to get the sub-3 anyway.

From Kelli on Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 18:07:41 from 71.219.85.126

OK then. You are slow as tar. It is almost embarrassing how slow you run. You really need to pick up the pace. ;o)

From SlowJoe on Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 19:41:51 from 74.195.74.62

Thanks Kelli, that's more like it.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.050.008.05

55F, SSW 17-29 mph.  7:38/mile today - I felt as good as I have yet since the marathon.  I was hitting 8:00 pace going into the south wind -- definitely a good sign that I am close to recovered.  The tailwind coming home was fun - one of those that lifts you up with each step and carries you along.

Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 8.05
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Dasha on Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 09:46:38 from 66.90.166.43

Sounds like you had a great run!

What Marathon did you do in January?

From SlowJoe on Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 09:51:27 from 132.3.53.68

Dasha - I did Houston a couple weeks ago...it's a great race if you get a chance to do it.

From allie on Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 10:22:37 from 161.38.218.168

looks like you have made it through the recovery process. nice running this morning. i love those tailwinds...

From I Just Run on Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 10:53:42 from 67.79.11.242

Good to hear you're recovering well. Were did that wind come from...we didn't have any this morning but it was very foggy and humid!

From Dan on Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 21:35:22 from 24.209.83.20

Really fast recovery Joe. Well done

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
13.000.0013.00

52F.  Bad run, I could never catch my breath...just felt wiped out for some reason.  Probably a lack of sleep last night, maybe some stress.  Ended up with a few miles in the 8:20s to finish, overall avg was in the 8:00s.

On the backroads, I ran by a skunk that must have just been hit by a car that passed me earlier; it was dark, but I could see he was still twitching.  It was the foulest smell I've ever experienced.  When I was far away it just smelled like a skunk.  Then when I got closer (before I could see him there in the middle of the road) the smell was more like burning plastic or burning hair or something...just really acrid and strong.  Like a turd covered in burnt hair.  He must have expelled any and all bodily fluids after getting hit.  I thought for sure it was something other than a skunk, until I saw him.  I've never been so close to puking during a run, I had to really concentrate to keep it in.  Then I had to pass him going back the other way.  I concentrated on not breathing through my nose but the smell worked its way in anyway.  The wind was blowing it right down the road too, for me to enjoy for a good half mile.

Fastwich Miles: 13.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Steam8 on Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 18:34:38 from 166.70.55.77

Ahahaha! I loved this post! What an adventure!! Roadkill does tend to make you feel like you are going to puke....I can't even imagine a skunk. I haven't had the pleasure of that experience! Nice run FASTY!

From Rye on Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 20:27:47 from 75.174.2.123

Still twitching??? If you carried you could have put it out of it's misery!

From I Just Run on Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 22:22:06 from 12.162.141.2

I think you can call "FOUL" (pun intended) on this run and get a "re-run"...! Go and try it again and I bet it will be much better :-)

From Dan on Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 22:28:25 from 24.209.83.20

Well NO WONDER you couldn't catch your breath!

From derhammer on Thu, Feb 02, 2012 at 10:39:33 from 192.156.110.33

Well, from a running standpoint I know how you feel as I have had a few of those runs lately.

The roadkill story is quite gross.

From allie on Thu, Feb 02, 2012 at 19:26:26 from 97.126.211.101

i hate those hair covered turds that smell like burning wires.

you should go back tomorrow and collect some skunk juice in a vial. then you can release it on your blog so we can smell for ourselves.

From SlowJoe on Sat, Feb 04, 2012 at 09:52:12 from 74.195.79.58

S8 - it felt like I was eating the smell, it was pretty strong.

Rye - hey, he made me miserable too..

IJR - yeah, maybe next week will be better, the marathon seems to still be in my legs. I don't recover like a 19 year old unfortunately!

Dan - aha, nice catch, that mustve been it

dh - thanks, yeah I want people to feel like they were there, smelling it with me.

allie - I will email you some skunk juice in an attachment. PDF or jpeg?

From allie on Sat, Feb 04, 2012 at 12:21:30 from 97.126.211.101

just send it via AOL instant messenger.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

easy 6 before driving to Kansas.  8:14/mile

1150s Red #2 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
17.091.0018.09

48F, rain.  2 loops around the town of Derby, Kansas with April.  I had a job interview at the Air Force base up there.  She and her family were gracious enough to have me over for dinner the night before, which was awesome, and then we ran in the pouring rain for 18 miles on Friday.  Amazing how fast the miles seemed to click by, even though it rained the whole time.  We did the first loop pretty easy, then picked it up a little for the second loop, finishing nice and strong.  We thought about doing a tempo run to finish it off, but I was secretly happy when she suggested to just gradually pick up the pace.  Hopefully we'll be able to get together for more runs in the future.

This was my last job interview (God, I hope so anyway).  Should find out soon whether I'm moving to KS or OK.

Saucony A4 Miles: 18.09
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Tracy on Sat, Feb 04, 2012 at 10:37:20 from 50.103.235.51

Hope all the interviews go well! It's been a busy time for you, too!

From Rye on Sat, Feb 04, 2012 at 11:20:19 from 75.174.35.187

Nice run joe....Life can get pretty crazy! Do you have a preference on locations? Just make sure that you dodge the twisters!

From Andrea on Sat, Feb 04, 2012 at 11:24:35 from 67.177.21.60

Nice to have a friend out there in KS! Good luck with the jobs...hope you get an offer you are excited about.

From Dasha on Sat, Feb 04, 2012 at 17:13:47 from 24.206.78.53

Great job, Joe!

Good luck with the job!

From Bec on Sat, Feb 04, 2012 at 19:16:56 from 68.206.133.141

Great miles in the rain! Good luck with the AF job. My husband and I live in Del Rio, TX... He is here at UPT. The Air Force has been cool to us so fat.

From SlowJoe on Sat, Feb 04, 2012 at 19:21:44 from 74.195.79.58

Thanks everyone!

Bec - hey, cool - I probably know some of his instructors. I am separating soon (flew the B-1) but hoping to latch on with a Guard unit. Good luck to you guys, hope you get one of your top choices!

From Dan on Sat, Feb 04, 2012 at 21:23:58 from 24.209.83.20

Joe- if you want more interviews I am 15 minutes from Wright Patt Air Force Base.... just saying...

Hey hope for the best with the job and good running!

From Burt on Sun, Feb 05, 2012 at 11:29:37 from 174.255.240.78

Did you say you speak Hungarian on your resume?

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.204.0010.20

34F, N 11 mph.  Since I knocked out this week's long run on Friday in Kansas with April, I just did 10 and change today.  It's been 3 weeks since my marathon, and 3 weeks since I've even run a single mile at marathon pace, so I gave it a shot today.  Started out with 6 quick warmup miles around 7:30-ish pace, then a 4-mile progressive tempo, starting at MP and finishing with a true threshold mile (6:55, 6:46, 6:34, 6:27).  It all felt very difficult, which means there's still a ways to go before I'm back in pre-Houston shape.  An hour later and I still feel out of breath.  Not sure whether the right thing to do is rest myself back into shape, or work myself back into shape.  I've tried the rest thing already though.. for 3 weeks.  So I'll go with the latter.

7:10 AP overall.

Kinvaras Miles: 10.20
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Burt on Sun, Feb 05, 2012 at 11:26:43 from 174.255.240.78

Follow your heart.

Must go back and read about Friday.

From seeaprilrun on Sun, Feb 05, 2012 at 17:03:28 from 68.102.140.181

Nice tempo! I'm glad you decided to do that on your own and not with me. I'm still living in tempo fear. After I have gotten this 50K thing over with I will get serious about getting back into marathon shape.

From derhammer on Sun, Feb 05, 2012 at 18:17:34 from 70.113.125.159

hmmm, I hardly count running almost everyday for the last 3 weeks resting, but that's just me. It all depends on the effort of the marathon I think. I laid it pretty much all out there at CIM and it has taken me until recently before I started feeling good again.

From I Just Run on Mon, Feb 06, 2012 at 10:30:55 from 67.79.11.242

Do you guys think it's much more of a mental thing than physical? I get pretty down/disinterested (don't know the right word) after a race and even after a big roping competition. I fought it all last week after after my race on Sunday.

From flatlander on Tue, Feb 07, 2012 at 11:37:04 from 198.207.244.102

Interesting question IJR. I think it is both, definitely a mental letdown after a big race. But there is a physical element which has to be respected. I have stopped worrying about it, I just try not to schedule marathons too close together.

From SlowJoe on Tue, Feb 07, 2012 at 13:05:15 from 132.3.53.68

Burt - I always do...never the brain

April - I probably should have been in tempo fear too, because anything sub-7 feels terrible lately.

dh - yeah, kind of settling in for a long recovery myself

IJR - maybe partly, yeah - that, and maybe mentally getting used to pushing the pace and getting uncomfortable again.

Flat - yeah, that's my problem with the timing of the Houston marathon -- it crunches in on both fall and spring marathons leaving you stuck without much of a break anywhere. I agree there's something physical to recover from as well.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

38F, 8:45 AP. early, dark, tired.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Tue, Feb 07, 2012 at 10:53:27 from 67.79.11.242

I hate it when I feel like that!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
10.000.0010.00

36F.  8:02/mile.  Felt crappy at first, then good.  I prefer this to crappy the whole time.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 10.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From DaleG on Tue, Feb 07, 2012 at 14:00:31 from 71.199.57.238

Nice job. It's been a while since I've checked out blogs. What's up next for you?

From SlowJoe on Tue, Feb 07, 2012 at 14:07:07 from 132.3.53.68

Hey Dale, gonna run a marathon somewhere in April. Depends where I move. You getting back into the swing of things?

From DaleG on Tue, Feb 07, 2012 at 14:10:44 from 71.199.57.238

Cool....So you're moving, but don't know where yet?

Yep, I think I'm getting back into the swing of things. It sure is tough after taking so much time off.

From SlowJoe on Tue, Feb 07, 2012 at 14:14:58 from 132.3.53.68

right. it'll be KS or OK, and within the next month or two. Not sure which one though!

It'll come back to you if you can get some good consistent weeks in. Easier said than done when life gets in the way...

From Rye on Tue, Feb 07, 2012 at 16:38:28 from 174.27.73.53

I'm with ya! It take 3 miles just to get warmed up at my age....... Then I really feel like crap.

From allie on Tue, Feb 07, 2012 at 18:28:49 from 97.126.211.101

good job shaking off the crappy.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
14.001.0015.00

34F, N 13 mph.  7:23 AP.  After an 8-minute mile to start things off I quickly picked up the pace and did a pretty solid aerobic effort this morning.  The paces for the last half of the run were all 7:00-7:20 with the last mile finally sub-7.  So, not a very purposeful run since it was too slow to be MP, but things were feeling pretty good today so I tried to make it count for something.

Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 15.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From derhammer on Wed, Feb 08, 2012 at 10:09:30 from 192.156.110.34

Wow - solid for a mid-week run.

Are you officially signed up for your next marathon?

From SlowJoe on Wed, Feb 08, 2012 at 10:29:18 from 132.3.53.68

dh - I'm waiting to see where we end up moving. I'll sign up either for this smaller one in central Kansas in mid-April, or Oklahoma City in late April.

From Dasha on Wed, Feb 08, 2012 at 10:30:22 from 66.90.166.43

Awesome run Joe!

It is freezing out there and looks pretty windy too! Way to get so many miles in, and fast!

From I Just Run on Wed, Feb 08, 2012 at 10:42:33 from 67.79.11.242

Sounds like you've gotten over the recovery hump! Good to hear the confidence in your voice! I hope you run OK :-) I went ahead and signed up.

From SlowJoe on Wed, Feb 08, 2012 at 11:03:06 from 132.3.53.68

Dasha - yeah it was a chilly start going into the wind, for sure

IJR - cool, I might actually see you there this time!

From I Just Run on Wed, Feb 08, 2012 at 11:05:06 from 67.79.11.242

Only if the weather is better! I'll skip out if it's like it was last year. That run just about killed me :-( Not a good experience for my first marathon...It's got me a little scared just thinking about running my next one!

From Rye on Wed, Feb 08, 2012 at 15:47:40 from 75.174.35.187

That's a great run Joe. You are amazing. If I ran a 7:23 overall pace, there would be great purpose in that run!

From seeaprilrun on Wed, Feb 08, 2012 at 20:05:03 from 205.172.12.230

It counts. I have had a lot of runs ending like this in the 7 - 7:20 range feeling good so I hope it counts for something. Sooner or later I will nudge it down sub-7 and quit being a tempo chicken.

From SlowJoe on Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 12:40:35 from 132.3.53.68

IJR - what, you don't like 30 mph winds and hail??

Rye - yeah don't get me wrong, it wasn't quite a walk in the park...

April - at least you're not an ultra chicken - that is going to be a crazy race. I think I am doing something fast tomorrow, don't yet know for sure what that will be.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

37F.  8:42 pace.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From allie on Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 13:15:14 from 161.38.218.168

cool data.

From I Just Run on Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 14:22:35 from 67.79.11.242

Sounds like my kinda run...speed, that is not temperature :-)

From Rye on Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 16:11:20 from 174.27.74.90

Joe tends to go on and on.......

From Dan on Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 18:52:58 from 141.0.9.24

good recovery and *bonus* no road kill

From SlowJoe on Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 13:54:52 from 132.3.53.68

allie - great job coming up with a compliment, I'm impressed

IJR - I think I could out-slow you these days.

Rye - .

Dan - every piece of debris on the road now looks like a skunk to me.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
7.005.0012.00

38F, NNW 12 mph.  7:02 AP.  It was just a little too breezy for the track according to the rule I made up this morning which sets max wind at 11.99 mph for a track workout.  So close.

So I did a 12-mile out-and-back with no workout in mind, just knew I wanted to pick up the pace.  Ended up attempting a 5-mile tempo at the end.  Splits for all 12:

7:46, 7:21, 7:20, 7:14, 7:18, 7:16, 7:08, 6:35, 6:39, 6:38, 6:39, 6:34.

McMillan says my tempo range should be 6:17-6:34, but I just could not get down there.  Seemed impossible.  Maybe I still have marathon stink on my legs, or maybe it was the fast warmup.  I was pretty drained after the run.

I ran in the new Type A5's and loved them as I knew I would.  I am normally not the type to rush out and buy a new upgrade to a shoe when it first comes out, but I love the A4s and had some cash in the paypal account from winning my fantasy football league this year so I splurged a hundred bucks on 'em.  They are 5.6 oz, which is awesome, but still have the same sole as the A4's.  That's probably why I started so fast, got a little too excited.

Saucony A5 Miles: 12.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Rye on Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 12:58:14 from 174.27.74.90

you.......excited.....nah! I have runners envy with your numbers! I'm in a funk! Nice run for you anyway.

From Burt on Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 13:17:20 from 174.254.23.80

Glad they're not fantasy shoes bought with fantasy money.

From I Just Run on Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 14:35:53 from 67.79.11.242

Still a nice run even if you weren't in McMillian's range.

New shoes are always so much fun!...and can you believe I used to think shoe envy was only a women's thing :-)

From Steam8 on Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 10:57:05 from 166.70.55.77

Running in the 7s are considered SLOW MILES?!?!?!?! hahaha!!!! NICE RUN FASTY!

From derhammer on Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 11:52:45 from 70.113.125.159

Nice solid run, Joe.

From flatlander on Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 11:03:10 from 76.31.26.153

Great run and great shoes. I love the term "marathon stink". We all know what it means.

From seeaprilrun on Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 13:21:53 from 68.102.140.181

With the winds and the temps, you were well within tempo range. Great job!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

27F, NNE 15-23 mph.  8:29 AP.  I waited until 10am and the windchill was still hovering around 15F, but I had to get it done as we have other stuff to do.  To make things worse I caught some kind of chest cold from the kids.  Kind of a miserable run, glad I just needed a few recovery miles.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 17:37:08 from 12.162.141.2

I didn't enjoy the cold run this morning either! Glad you got it done!!

From Andrea on Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 18:16:48 from 12.44.144.104

Hope you can get over the chest cold quickly!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
17.003.0020.00

29F, SE 14 mph.  Still sick, but felt decent enough to run this morning.  I ended up doing a harder effort, 7:19/mile average, and right when I stopped it hit me like a ton of bricks.  Feel like crap.  Now I feel a little dumb for running nearly 2-and-a-half hours in sub-20 windchill with a chest cold.  Not dumb enough to regret it though.  Or maybe too dumb.

7:31, 7:38, 7:35, 7:36, 7:34, 7:40, 7:27, 7:30, 7:30, 7:29, 7:32, 7:04, 7:12, 6:59, 7:06, 7:04, 7:00, 6:58, 7:07, 6:39.

You can probably tell where I turned around and started running with the wind.  Anyway, I tickled marathon pace most of the way home but never really quite got there.  Gonna rest, get healthy, and keep it easy this next week while still increasing mileage.

Fastwich Miles: 20.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From seeaprilrun on Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 20:53:08 from 68.102.140.181

Starting the week off with a bang! great job and you are looking to be getting right back to your old self. If you end up running in Abilene I will so be there!

From Dan on Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 21:29:01 from 24.209.83.20

Solid 20. You may be dumb, but clearly not stupid!

From I Just Run on Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 11:15:15 from 67.79.11.242

I was thinking you may be dumb but you're sure tough!!!! Good Run, hope you feel okay today.

From Neil on Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 13:31:05 from 164.165.24.5

Great run. BTW, it's not that we're dumb, runners just lack an imagination. ;)

From SlowJoe on Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 16:31:32 from 132.3.53.68

April - thanks, still not quite there but closer now. Looks like I will be moving to OK (unfortunately), so I don't think I'll make it to the Abilene KS race. Probably OKC 2 weeks later.

Dan - yes. yes, you are right.

IJR - starting to get over it, I think.

Neil - yeah I tried to just imagine myself running 20 miles but it wasn't the same.

From Steam8 on Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 21:26:54 from 166.70.55.77

Sick and a 7:19 average??? I can't even imagine! Nice run Fasty!

From flatlander on Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 08:40:28 from 76.31.26.153

Gee, glad you were able to "work things out" and get in a couple of slow ones on Sunday morning.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
10.030.0010.03

42F.  Muddled through 10 easy-ish miles.  8:00 avg.  felt ok.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 10.03
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From allie on Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 12:07:25 from 161.38.218.168

great muddling.

From DaleG on Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 13:03:56 from 71.199.57.238

Nice job

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
15.120.0015.12

AM - 56F, SSW 13 mph.  11 @ 7:49 AP.  I guess I'm splitting this run up.  I was going to do 15 this morning but felt crappy; can't quite kick this cold.  Part of the problem was I needed a pit stop pretty bad this morning.  Finally bit the bullet and hit up a 7/11 -- at least I ran in town this morning, so I got to use a toilet like a real human being.  Afterward I actually felt pretty decent and picked up the pace but in my mind had already decided to just do 11.  Not sure why I felt like that was an irrevocable decision, it just was.

PM - 67F, W 16 mph.  4.12 @ 8:08 pace.  Reluctantly finished up today's mileage in the late afternoon/early evening.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 4.12Kinvaras Miles: 11.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From DaleG on Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 14:17:28 from 71.199.57.238

My mind always tells me what mile to run to and I can't ever make myself do more.

From I Just Run on Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 15:37:21 from 67.79.11.242

How much of running is mental....A LOT..!!!

From seeaprilrun on Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 20:50:38 from 68.102.140.181

Great mileage today. Lucky thing you ran in town, I hate squatting behind a bush listening to cars come and worrying that someone might call me in for public pottying or something.

From allie on Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 20:51:08 from 97.126.211.101

7/11 pit stops are great, but you can't look the cashier in the eye or they will totally know what's up and then it's really awkward. i usually browse through the chips and then slip in when they aren't looking.

nice job getting the mileage in for the day.

From SlowJoe on Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 21:54:35 from 74.195.74.62

Dale - yeah, I know what you mean

IJR - true statement sir.

April and Allie - Seriously, those were 2 of the best comments ever, and they were less than a minute apart. Bravo!

From Rye on Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 14:54:36 from 174.27.73.111

Here in Idaho we have no shame. I ran with my friend the other day and he had to use the facilities but nothing around so he was looking for a place to go. After about a half mile I asked what the heck was his problem. As far as I was concerned he past up 10 great places to ds. (Drop, squat) No shame here.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
10.100.0010.10

AM - 36F.  6 @ 8:35 AP.  Actually a planned double today.  Trying to get my miles safely up for my next marathon, probably OKC.

PM - 48F.  4.1 @ 7:35 AP.  Really felt good this afternoon but tried to keep a lid on it.  Normally this would signal me to plow through a killer workout tomorrow to see where I'm at, but I am running with derhammer and his group on Saturday.  So I'll run easy tomorrow and try to mitigate how bad I'm gonna get my ass kicked.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.00Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 4.10
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From derhammer on Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:33:45 from 192.156.110.40

I am starting to like doubles myself.

Could be a wet and soggy run on Saturday.

From SlowJoe on Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 11:13:48 from 132.3.53.68

Yep, I should've warned you that whenever I run with someone from FRB, I bring crappy weather. It's my curse.

From I Just Run on Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 14:51:03 from 67.79.11.242

I was going to say "Good Job" but since it's a double day, and you've only posted half your run I can only say "Great Half Effort" ... :-)

From flatlander on Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 15:23:54 from 76.31.26.153

I'm seriously considering bagging my run and coming up there to watch the battle of the titans.

From I Just Run on Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 15:25:54 from 67.79.11.242

Oh man....I wish I wern't going out of town and could come see this too.

From derhammer on Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 15:51:37 from 192.156.110.34

I think SJ was talking about the course, not me. He's the one with the 3:01 after all. :-)

From Dan on Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 15:22:32 from 24.209.83.20

id like to see this as well! doubles are good, i enjoyed them last summer.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.080.005.08

44F, 8:22 pace.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 5.08
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
10.0010.0020.00

54F, raining.  Austin, TX - we were in the area visiting family, so I went to downtown to meet David "derhammer" and his group of Gazelles on Saturday morning.  I had read about some of their speedy past few weekend runs so I took it easy the last couple days in the hopes I'd be able to keep up.

I saw David in the parking lot and we did a warmup mile, then 19 @ 7:20 AP with Mike and Russ.  It was a killer run, hillier than anything I've attempted to this point in my running life.  The hills started about 5 miles in.  I knew I was in for it, because the other 3 guys seemed to actually increase their pace going up hills, and I tend to let gravity win when I run on my own.  Finally came to Mt. Bonnnell, which was pretty brutal - might as well have been climbing stairs, it was that steep.  Then we literally did climb stairs at the top, to reach the peak which had a pretty great view of Austin.  Then down the mountain.  Then turned around to go back up the mountain.  It was a Texas "mountain," so maybe only a few hundred feet tall, but the elevation gain seemed to all come in about a half-mile.  This last climb we got strung out a bit with SlowJoe bringing up the rear -- David zipped passed me like I was standing still.  Finally back down to the flatter area to finish up, still around a MP effort.

Quite a run, but I had an awesome time.  I was pleased just to be able to hang on for dear life.  Good scenery and good company, for sure.  Then after the run, I met Dasha from the blog to top off a great morning.

Here's what my watch had for splits - 8:33, 7:57, 7:47, 7:31, 7:41, 7:35, 6:58, 6:59, 7:33, 7:22, 7:18, 7:32, 6:52, 6:52, 6:58, 6:50, 6:43, 7:26, 7:01.  Miles 9-12 included the crazy hills - I'll credit myself with 10 good MP-effort miles.

Saucony A5 Miles: 20.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 08:46:40 from 67.79.11.242

Wooo...Hooo welcome to central Texas :-) I've been waiting with eager anticipation to see how you did on this run! I knew you would do well. Sounds fun...hopefully some day I can gain enough speed to come and play with you guys :-)

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
4.170.004.17

45F, SE 12 mph.  Back in Abilene.  Short run around the neighborhood after the kids went to bed, 8:13/mile.  I am definitely sore from yesterday.  But, it actually felt great to run a little - the soreness must be all from just using muscles that haven't been used in awhile.  The ones that are needed to run on flat roads are fine!  Still better take it easy for a few days.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 4.17
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 08:49:48 from 67.79.11.242

Sounds like you held up pretty well. I think you need to come to Austin every couple of weeks and run the hills :-)

From Dasha on Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 08:18:59 from 209.163.133.194

Joe - It was great to meet you this past weekend! Thanks for stoping by the Gazelles :) Hopefully next time I can run a few miles with you, not just show up when y'all are done!

From SlowJoe on Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 10:11:00 from 74.195.74.62

IJR - I definitely need more hill work, and it shows!

Dasha - sounds great, it was good to meet y'all as well.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
9.000.009.00

50F, SSW 25-35 mph.  I just ran loops around ACU to minimize the length of the headwind legs, plus the buildings there block some of the wind.  7:58 AP.  Still sore, but I can only tell when I stop running; it still feels good to run at an easy pace so I will keep that up.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 9.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Steam8 on Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 16:11:40 from 166.70.55.77

I kind of like windy runs....only when my legs are fresh though. Nice way to push through a rough run!

From ACorn on Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 16:41:16 from 24.2.76.146

Nice run and good going on outmaneuvering the wind.

From Dan on Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 20:55:02 from 24.209.83.20

Good thinking...I think... Joe :)

From I Just Run on Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 07:55:27 from 67.79.11.242

I kinda don't like windy runs...Hope you do because if you think Abilene is windy wait til you get to Oklahoma :-(

Good run in sore legs!

From derhammer on Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 08:47:01 from 192.156.110.40

The soreness will go away, I promise. :-)

From flatlander on Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 13:12:59 from 198.207.244.102

I did a long run in Temple a few months ago and it seemed to take forever to get my legs back. Calves were especially bad. Good job.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
10.050.0010.05

39F, 7:54 AP.  My last day of work in the Air Force today.  Not missing it.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 10.05
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From flatlander on Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 13:13:38 from 198.207.244.102

I didn't realize it was so soon. When do you pack up and move?

From DaleG on Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 18:02:25 from 71.199.57.238

Congratulations. What's next for you? Do you have a job lined up?

From derhammer on Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 08:09:14 from 192.156.110.40

Congrats on being a free man now.

How are those A5's working out for you? I need new shoes and noticed you were wearing them on Saturday. I figured if you were wearing them for a long run they must be pretty good.

From SlowJoe on Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 10:08:35 from 74.195.74.62

Flat - pretty soon, though my start date is not set quite yet.

DG - thanks, I'll be working for a govt contractor in OK.

dh - I love the A4s and A5s. I used the A4s for all my long MP runs leading up to Houston, and used them for the marathon. The A5s have the same sole, but the upper is a little lighter. They definitely have less cushioning than the kinvaras (you feel the ground more) but you can get used to it pretty quick.

From jtshad on Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 10:11:24 from 204.134.132.225

Good luck with the new job. Thanks for your service to our country in the Air Force.

From SlowJoe on Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 10:16:24 from 74.195.74.62

jtshad - thanks, I appreciate it!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
15.000.0015.00

65F, W 18-30 mph.  No job to go to today so I slept in, took the kids to school, then ran.  Of course it was a little warm and windy because I waited, but it was a good trade for the extra sleep.  7:31 AP for the run, pretty steady the whole time although it was getting more difficult toward the end as the temps neared 70.  Guess I need to get ready for the spring winds and heat.

Fastwich Miles: 15.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From allie on Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 10:18:09 from 97.126.211.101

great pace and mileage today. spring winds? that sounds less-than-pleasant. should i be worried about coming to texas?

From SlowJoe on Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 10:40:49 from 74.195.74.62

The Houston area definitely doesn't get wind like west TX. Even though it's a mere 7-hour drive from here, it's like a different world over there. We can barely understand their east Texas accents.

From allie on Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 10:44:47 from 97.126.211.101

i see. so i'm guessing east texas is near the southern utah area. i guess i will find out on the flight out...

From SlowJoe on Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 10:56:01 from 74.195.74.62

Exactly - actually, it's so small that you will have to parachute out because they don't have room for a runway.

From ACorn on Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:07:48 from 68.66.168.22

Enjoy the day off and the warmer temps. Nice run!

From I Just Run on Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 09:36:23 from 67.79.11.242

What does "No job to go to today" mean? Do you really not have a job now? If so, when are you physically moving to Oklahoma?

BTW...Nice strong run!

From SlowJoe on Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 10:15:49 from 74.195.74.62

ACorn - thanks!

IJR - I guess I'm officially unemployed, though it shouldn't last more than a couple weeks.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
10.110.0010.11

AM - 74F, W 22-33 mph.  Late morning again -- love the sleep, hate the wind.  6 @ 8:24 AP.  Tomorrow, maybe I'll wake up early.

PM - 60F, N 18-25 mph.  4.11 @ 8:35 AP.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 4.111150s Red #2 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Dan on Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 20:32:09 from 24.209.83.20

Ah the battle of sleep vs waking... tough!! Nice running

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
9.414.0013.41

38F.  7:18 AP.  I did my "starter workout" to get in the mode of running faster again, a 4-mile tempo.  9 miles easy, then 4 tempo, then I got a short bonus cooldown since I forgot to turn around right at 6.5.

9 easy, averaged about 7:40.  I stopped my watch for a "pit stop" about 5 miles in.  I was out in the country this time (no 7/11s), so into the ditch I went.  I knew once I did it that first time I would get all too comfortable with it and it would happen more and more.

4 tempo, 6:25 AP (6:36, 6:28, 6:22, 6:16).  The 6:25 average is exactly what I wanted (should be my 1-hour pace) so it felt nice to finally hit the right pace in a workout for the first time since Houston.

Kinvaras Miles: 13.41
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From flatlander on Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 08:32:00 from 76.31.26.153

Great running and great miles this week. I was looking at your PRs -- hard to believe how far out of date your half PR is even though it is less than 6 months old.

From Neil on Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 09:50:15 from 164.165.24.5

Nice tempo. FYI- The sphinkter never forgets. Once it learns that it is in a comfortable, supportive environment it relaxes and drops all pretense. I've been forced to develop a workaround for a certain elem school nearby due to an unfortunate incident that occurred during an early morning run last summer. :)

From SlowJoe on Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 09:17:26 from 74.195.74.62

flat - yeah, I'm strongly considering running a half next weekend in Wichita Falls. Should be an easy PR.

Neil - that is so true, so true. elementary school..ouch!

From derhammer on Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 09:22:15 from 70.113.125.159

Nice job, Joe. Good luck on the half if you run it.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

48F, S 14 mph, 8:28 AP.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Dan on Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 19:41:49 from 24.209.83.20

48- great running temp if there is not a strong wind... which it seems you had. Good week Joe.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
15.241.7617.00

46F, SSW 20-35 mph.  The wind actually felt worse than that though, since I went down to Kirby Lake to start.  I tried to stay mostly on E/W roads but even the crosswind felt really rough both ways.  Anyway, I ran easy/moderate for awhile, then did a small workout once I hit the 90-minute mark: 5 x 2-minutes hard, with 60 sec easy inbetween.  Then about a 3-mile cooldown.

Averaged 5:45 pace for the 5 x 2 min, and 7:38 pace on the easy minute inbetween.

I think it was a good way to introduce working on my VO2 max speed which is pretty terrible right now since I never work that system.

Averaged 7:23/mile for the run as a whole.

Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 17.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Andrea on Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 10:16:53 from 67.177.21.60

That's a great workout to start working on speed. Nice job! You guys must have gotten the crazy winds today that Utah had yesterday!

From ACorn on Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 11:36:30 from 24.2.76.146

Nice speed work after a solid longer run!

From Rye on Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 09:50:17 from 174.27.109.210

I agree with Andrea, one thing though, this past week we had sustained winds at 50 mph and gusts over 60 all day. It caused all kinds of havoc here. Keep up the great work joe!

From SlowJoe on Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 11:37:08 from 74.195.74.62

Andrea - I'm just glad I didn't have to race in it...would have been ugly.

ACorn - thanks

Rye - wow - that's when you need to get a ride upwind, then go set some PRs!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
4.100.004.10

62F, SE 15 mph.  8:32 AP.  Felt rough, glad this was all I had planned for today.  Easy miles this week, then probably race a half marathon on Saturday.  Loks like awesome temps and moderate wind.  I think breaking 1:25 may still be a bit of a stretch, based on recent runs, but that's why they call it a stretch goal I guess.  Should at least be under 1:27 I think; just need to keep it in the 6:30s...we'll see.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 4.10
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From seeaprilrun on Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 13:18:44 from 68.102.128.85

You have 1:25 in the bag! I'm excited for you!

From derhammer on Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 13:23:30 from 192.156.110.33

Um, yeah, 1:25 should not be a problem. Really.

From Dan on Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 17:59:21 from 24.209.83.20

Let's make that a 3rd.

From I Just Run on Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 07:27:41 from 67.79.11.242

4 would make it a sure thing...right!!!

From flatlander on Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 17:59:50 from 64.129.54.210

Where is your half. You aren't coming down here to run Woodlands are you?

From SlowJoe on Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 19:25:30 from 74.195.74.62

Thanks all - would love to break 1:25 but I'm more than a little uncomfortable at that pace.

Flat - it's in Wichita Falls, way closer...

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
14.120.0014.12

AM - 61F, SSE 24-32 mph.  10 @ 7:57 AP.  I'm going to front-load miles this week so as to get a couple easy days before the half.  More this evening...

PM - 70F, S 15-25 mph.  4.12 @ 8:32 AP.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 4.121150s Red #2 Miles: 10.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From derhammer on Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 08:30:06 from 192.156.110.34

Good idea.

From allie on Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 14:06:07 from 97.126.223.139

yes, good idea. i hope "the half" means the woodlands half. if not, you should switch to the woodlands half.

From SlowJoe on Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 19:24:07 from 74.195.74.62

allie - unfortunately, no. Wichita Falls is only 2 hours away and woodlands is 7. Say hi to those weird east TX/southern utah people for me.

From I Just Run on Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 08:06:38 from 67.79.11.242

Wow, stiff wind but still a good run! I bet you're looking forward to the half!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
15.000.0015.00

55F (mid-morning run).  7:29 AP.

I start my new job in a week and a half, so I have until then to just be a running bum.

My first 300-mile month ever!  Good thing it was a leap year.

Fastwich Miles: 15.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Dan on Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 17:54:47 from 24.209.83.20

Congrats on the month!!! Leap year it is, I hope to switching jobs as well, enjoy the break!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

55F, SSW 12 mph.  8:37 AP.  Taper day 1 of 2 for the half on Saturday.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Thu, Mar 01, 2012 at 13:18:16 from 67.79.11.242

Good luch on the half...I hope it's a little cooler and no wind!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.080.005.08

51F, N 17 mph.  8:24 AP.  Taper day 2 of 2, hopefully that recovered me enough for a good race.  Temperature will be perfect tomorrow with the usual suspect, the wind, at 16-23 mph according to wx.gov.  Sigh.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 5.08
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From seeaprilrun on Fri, Mar 02, 2012 at 15:01:07 from 68.102.128.85

just remember, wind is mild in the morning. You've got this! You've got it! I will be very eagerly awaiting your report!

From flatlander on Fri, Mar 02, 2012 at 16:35:00 from 198.207.244.102

Good luck tomorrow, excited to see how you do.

Race: Wichita Falls Half Marathon (13 Miles) 01:23:48, Place overall: 2, Place in age division: 1
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
1.2513.0014.25

45F, N 11 mph.  Great race for me.  The wind that I was scared of was not too bad, really light for this time of year.  My stretch goal was to break 1:25 and I actually did it this time.

It was about a 2-hour drive to Wichita Falls, so got up early to make the drive.  Did about a mile to warm up, then lined up at the front since there were only about a hundred participants.

Miles 1-5 - 6:29, 6:28, 6:30, 6:32, 6:20.  The race was mostly flat and had a lot of crosswind which was great.  Mile 1, however, was downhill and downwind, which meant mile 13 would suck.  I took it easy and was in 5th after mile 1.  After that I was feeling good, so I held on to a 6:30-ish pace and moved into the lead after mile 3.  This was actually kind of a nice, scenic course around Lake Wichita.  I was just following the golf cart guy and enjoying my lead.

Miles 6-10 - 6:35, 6:18, 6:20, 6:31, 6:28.  Got to the turnaround just a bit early, and I guessed that the course would be short, but we ended up taking a slightly modified route back.  After the turnaround, I got to get a look at my lead.  Not huge, maybe 20 seconds.  The guy in second said, "You're killing me!" as we passed each other.  Uh huh.  Well, he was a little too close for comfort so I did a little surge for about 10 minutes through miles 7 and 8, running 6:15-6:20 pace to make sure he was dropped.  I think it worked.  Miles 9 and 10 had really slippery gravel (this was the modified return) and I spend half the time running on the grass since the footing sucked.

Miles 11-13 - 6:25, 6:16, 6:38.  Finally around the 10.5 mark, there was a turn back on to asphault right after an aid station.  Right after I hit the street, I heard cheers for the 2nd place guy, who I thought was long gone.  He was close.  Hello motivation.  I turned on the jets and ran my fastest mile in mile 12.  That would be the mile he passed me.  Not gradually either, there was absolutely nothing I could do about it.  I just said "great push," and let him go.  The last mile was as brutal as I thought it would be, uphill and into the strongest wind of the morning, it seemed.  I ended up losing by about 25 seconds but what could I do?  Turns out it was that guy's first HM, so he was probably a lot faster than me but just ran conservatively at the beginning since he'd never raced one.

I measured it at 13.00 miles, the winner measured it at 13.05.  AP was 6:27 by my garmin, and the course was not certified.  If you do the math, I would have run 1:24:31 for 13.11, so we'll call that the new PR.

I'm pretty pumped, this is better than I thought I could do.  I've had pretty much no good workouts since Houston, and 6:30 pace has felt terribly hard until just now.  I think this race is probably better than my 3:01 in Houston.  Definitely think I'm on my way to sub-3...

Saucony A5 Miles: 14.25
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From flatlander on Sat, Mar 03, 2012 at 13:18:32 from 76.31.26.153

That is terrific! What a race, can hardly believe how fast you are getting. Congratulations again, really excited for what you will be doing this year, as if you haven't done enough already.

From Andrea on Sat, Mar 03, 2012 at 13:30:34 from 67.177.21.60

Great race today! Glad that 6:30 pace is starting to feel better - great sign. You're definitely on the right track for the sub-3!

From derhammer on Sat, Mar 03, 2012 at 14:42:33 from 70.113.125.159

Have faith in yourself. I knew sub 1:25 was in the cards. Great run!!

From seeaprilrun on Sat, Mar 03, 2012 at 16:12:41 from 68.102.128.85

JOE! Wow oh wow! Amazing! I cannot believe it! Yes I can! Way to push and surge and hold the guy off. You didn't slow down at all! You are easily on track for sub-3, easily! Congrats on such a big race and great time! I am starting to think I need to check out this Pfitz stuff!

From I Just Run on Sat, Mar 03, 2012 at 19:06:02 from 12.162.141.2

I just had to laugh as I read your report. I knew you were going to kill this race if the conditions were good. Way to go TurboJoe...!!! I'm your fan and will be eagerly awaiting the next race :-) Maybe I can get an autograph when I finally meet you :-)

From Neil on Sat, Mar 03, 2012 at 21:48:21 from 97.121.52.216

Great race, congrats! That guy was definitely sandbagging. No matter, you're progress is steady and remarkable. Very inspiring.

From allie on Sun, Mar 04, 2012 at 07:21:26 from 75.148.144.153

excellent race! you know you are fit when you smash your stretch goal.

you are well on your way to sub-3...

From SlowJoe on Sun, Mar 04, 2012 at 08:34:22 from 74.195.74.62

Thanks Flat, definitely hoping to see more gains this year.

Andrea - thanks, I guess that means I need to run faster tempos...dang.

dh - thanks - I hadn't seen any evidence of improvement but I guess sometimes you have to wait until a race comes up.

April - let me know and I can mail you the book if you want...I've read it like 3 times. But really I think I've just been lucky to stay uninjured (knock on wood) and still rack up the miles.

IJR - funny story about autographs. As I went up to get my bib, this one lady asked me which event I was doing. Before I could answer, the other lady said "it must be the half, he looks fast and has an old race shirt on." I said, "oh, yeah, I'm kind of a big deal." I think they thought I was serious until I told them "no autographs."

Neil - thanks - I looked up the guy who won and found a 17:21 5k. So, yeah, sandbagger!

allie - hope so - maybe a nice taper will just about put me there

From JG on Sun, Mar 04, 2012 at 10:22:48 from 71.56.87.5

Gotta love the surge at Miles 7 & 8 when already cruising at a 6:30 pace. I think I would have gone into an all out sprint & then tried to jump on the back of the golf cart! :) Great race, Joe!!!

From Burt on Sun, Mar 04, 2012 at 16:37:43 from 72.223.93.158

Geez! How fast was that guy's last mile? 5:20? I suppose you could have thrown out some spike strips.

From Dan on Sun, Mar 04, 2012 at 20:03:09 from 24.209.83.20

Holy cow man, we told ya you would be sub 1:25...so did you pump your fists over the finish line like Houston?

From SlowJoe on Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 09:17:18 from 74.195.74.62

JG - yeah it was like a horse with a carrot on a stick in front of it...could never quite get to it.

Burt - I looked at the official results and he actually beat me by more than I thought, almost a minute. Definitely threw down some 5's at the end.

Dan - nope, not this time. saving the next excessive celebration for sub-3.

From Jake K on Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 09:49:32 from 155.100.226.54

Great race - you are definitely on the way to Sub 3 hours!!

Uphill and into the wind on the last mile - ouch that is rough! If I ever design a race course, I would never let that happen :-)

You've got like 2 months until OKC - I think you definitely have the time to make the next jump. 1:24 right now suggests you are absolutely on the right track.

From SlowJoe on Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 19:45:22 from 74.195.74.62

Jake - thanks for the vote of confidence; it would definitely be nice to get another little fitness boost since OKC is a little tougher course than Houston was.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

64F, SW 12 mph.  8:39 AP.  Tired legs, but not sore from the race.  Overall, not too bad, should be able to bounce back quickly but I've scheduled a couple more really easy days just in case

1150s Red #2 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From JG on Sun, Mar 04, 2012 at 19:00:54 from 71.56.87.5

Good recovery run ... Half Marathons are fun ... much easier to bounce back from! :)

From I Just Run on Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 07:47:14 from 67.79.11.242

Wait a minute...shouldn't you take off at least a day after a half marathon? You're really beginning to make me feel tired and old...keep up the good work :-( ?

From SlowJoe on Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 09:26:43 from 74.195.74.62

JG - yeah this one has been a lot easier than others I've done, very happy about that

IJR - Probably should have, but I figured some easy miles wouldn't hurt anything

From Steam8 on Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 23:18:50 from 166.70.55.77

1:24 half is amazing! Great job! I would still be having a hard time walking and you are ready to get back to business?!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
10.170.0010.17

AM - 60F, S 13 mph.  6 @ 8:22 AP.  Legs feel just about ready to go again.

PM - 65F, SSE 18 mph.  4.17 @ 8:27 AP. 

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.001150s Red #2 Miles: 4.17
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 14:50:05 from 67.79.11.242

6 AM ... So are you working now?

From SlowJoe on Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 19:43:05 from 74.195.74.62

more like 9am! I start my job in 1 week, so still in bum-mode.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
10.880.0010.88

55F, S 21-31 mph.  7:39 AP.  I absent-mindedly ran an extra outbound mile today, so I had to pick up the pace and take a shortcut home to get back in time to take my kindergartner to school.  I got in about a mile of unexpected trail running at a fast pace.

Packing up some stuff today - I will move into the house in Oklahoma tomorrow, and the family will stay in TX to finish out the school year.  Guess I will check back in on FRB once I get internet and everything hooked up at the new place.  Hopefully all my Texas friends will still talk to me when I become an Oklahoman, or Oklahomite, whatever it is.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 10.88
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From derhammer on Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 09:49:10 from 192.156.110.39

Whoa - at new job without family - should I expect to see some 100 mile weeks?

From seeaprilrun on Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 17:01:34 from 68.102.128.85

Too bad you didn't become a Kansan. :(

From I Just Run on Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 19:18:55 from 12.162.141.2

It was nice knowing you SlowJoe... :-)

From allie on Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 17:10:34 from 174.23.144.229

the official term is olkahomish. good luck with the move. even more luck with getting your internet hooked up. that's usually the hardest part about moving.

From DaleG on Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 00:01:33 from 71.199.57.238

Good luck.

From derhammer on Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:59:08 from 192.156.110.39

Joe, what's up? Where are you? Maybe with moving and such you have not had time to run??

From I Just Run on Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:08:07 from 67.79.11.242

I think Joe ran to Oklahoma.... :-)

From SlowJoe on Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 17:49:57 from 69.131.141.92

whew, finally got the dang ol innernet working...updating blog now

From Rye on Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 17:53:30 from 174.27.106.57

So, you are a Okie!!!!Watch out for those twisters.....Hope you enjoy your new job and neighborhood and all!

From I Just Run on Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 18:01:01 from 166.147.79.57

As fast as Joe is no twisted will ever catch him!

From I Just Run on Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 18:02:14 from 166.147.79.57

So Joe are you going to log about a million miles from the last week?

From allie on Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 18:02:28 from 161.38.218.168

yes, AOL dial-up can be slow sometimes. welcome (back) to the blog.

From Dan on Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 18:31:10 from 24.209.83.20

I agree- out run those twisters. Glad you are moved (kinda)

From SlowJoe on Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 19:19:59 from 69.131.141.92

dh - not too far from it!

April - I wish I was a Kansan too. So does my bank account.

IJR - a million billion is more like it

allie - I finally settled on a provider who didn't call the internet "new-fangled nonsense." A little rural out here.

Dan - twisters shmisters. resistance training I say

From SlowJoe on Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 19:21:36 from 69.131.141.92

Rye - yup an Okie - What did Lou Gossett say...only 2 things come out of Oklahoma...

From SlowJoe on Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 19:22:49 from 69.131.141.92

Dale - thanks!

Man, I'm already rusty at replying to comments

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
12.050.0012.05

7:38 AP - last run in Abilene before moving.  Don't remember it except that they paved a road that I always ran on and it was nice.  The day before I move.  Jerks.

Kinvaras Miles: 12.05
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
10.020.0010.02

My first run in Okie was 1.3 miles.  I underdressed and my pinkies went numb, so I turned around.  40 mph wind, rain, etc.  Finished up the rest in the evening.  Overall 7:58/mile.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 10.02
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
12.080.0012.08

7:35/mile

Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 12.08
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.000.005.00

8:18/mile

1150s Red #1 Miles: 5.00
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
15.002.0017.00

Explored the area to the east of Elgin, and ran at a moderate to hard aerobic pace, 7:14 avg.  I wanted to do some MP but had a headwind the whole way back and quickly gave up on that idea.

Fastwich Miles: 17.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 08:16:10 from 67.79.11.242

I'm afraid you may need to get used to the wind :-(

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
4.000.004.00

8:28/mile

1150s Red #2 Miles: 4.00
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
14.000.0014.00

AM - 10 @ 7:52 AP.  early and dark.  In my old job, if you weren't flying, you just had to show up by 8:00 am, wink, wink, nod.  For my new job you have to show up at 8am sharp, which takes place a lot earlier in the day than 8am, wink, wink, nod.  I live about 15 miles up the turnpike from Fort Sill, in a small town called Elgin.  Hills!  I have hills now.  I think I will like it, running-wise, more than Abilene, although the climate is basically the same.  I have more options out here.  The best part is the super-long east/west county road right outside the neighborhood, perfect for days with a strong south or north wind.

PM - 74F, S 20-29 mph.  I was too lazy to fill in all the old weather for the last week, but I'll start putting it in again - I do find it helpful when I look back.  4 @ 8:24 AP

Going to start really pounding out the miles, I think.  Really the only change is more of these little PM recovery runs, but I should hit 80+ for the next 4 weeks or so.  I've still been pretty lazy as far as workouts.  Basically nothing since my HM, but I'm planning on 10-12 @ GMP on Sunday.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 10.001150s Red #2 Miles: 4.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Dan on Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 18:29:55 from 24.209.83.20

Its kind of like I ran 10 miles *wink* *nod*

Just kidding, but I know the work differences, good luck with the adjustment!

From SlowJoe on Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 19:14:38 from 69.131.141.92

thanks Dan, I love getting up early to run, wink wink

From I Just Run on Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 08:19:45 from 67.79.11.242

Glad to hear you have good options to run. That should boost your enthusiasm for a while :-)

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
15.000.0015.00

64F, 100%, S 13 mph.  7:58 AP.  Tired legs, and I forgot to bring anything to drink.  Given the amount I sweat, it was a little too warm and muggy for no liquids on a 2-hour run and I dehydrated a bit.  Made for some 8:20s on the way home.

Kinvaras Miles: 15.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 08:25:09 from 67.79.11.242

I think the dehydration thing may be something that often gets me. I lost 5 pounds today on a 10 mile run and drank 16 oz. on the run. I'm just a sweat factory.

Oh by the way...welcome back to the blog...And I'll still be your friend even though your now an Okie. Actually two of my best friends are from Oklahoma (and I don't hold it against them:-).

From Steam8 on Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 15:45:48 from 166.70.55.77

15 and no liquid? Yikes! Glad you made it back safe!!! Nice run. 8:20s are not SLOW for me!

From Dan on Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 23:04:01 from 24.209.83.20

Water is your friend.... Still a good 15

From SlowJoe on Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 20:01:28 from 69.131.141.92

IJR - thanks for your mercy on the Okie thing. I seem to be a sweat factory too...guess I didn't move far enough north.

S8 - yeah I just forgot my bottle and was too lazy to go back

Dan - thanks, glad to have it in the books anyway.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
10.000.0010.00

AM - 65F, S 17-25 mph.  6 @ 9:02 AP.

PM - 73F, S 14 mph.  4 @ 8:36 AP.

It's been awhile since I've averaged in the 9's for a run, but I always let the legs dictate the pace on recovery days.  I think they were trying to tell me something this morning.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.001150s Red #2 Miles: 4.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From derhammer on Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 09:48:48 from 192.156.110.33

Yeah, I know the feeling. 9:22 AP for me this morning. It's been a while since I have run that kinda pace.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
13.000.0013.00

63F, 100%, S 12 mph.  7:48 AP.

Married 10 years today!

Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 13.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 08:57:36 from 67.79.11.242

Married 10 years...sounds like a good day to run 13 miles!

Oh...Congradulations, you already did it :-)

From ACorn on Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 14:13:24 from 68.66.168.22

Happy 10th!

From SlowJoe on Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 09:10:06 from 74.197.87.208

Thanks guys

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

66F, S 15 mph.  8:33 AP.  Back in Abilene for the weekend.  I'll try to try 10 @ MP tomorrow but it's looking like a hot south wind.  we'll see...

1150s Red #2 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Rye on Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 16:45:59 from 174.27.82.66

Nice to be back with the fam! Congrats on the 10 years of wedded bliss too.

From I Just Run on Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 19:12:48 from 166.147.77.48

Such a short weekend run for you :-) Hope you have a good trip...I'm sure you're glad to be back with the family!

From Dan on Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 21:19:42 from 24.209.83.20

Congrats on the 10! Hope for 50 more!

Hot wind... run by pfeel I say.

From flatlander on Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 08:15:25 from 12.189.1.16

Getting ready for the move I presume? Really nice miles this week, congratulations on your new job and your new running roads.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
11.0010.0021.00

67F, S 22-31 mph.  Not exactly ideal conditions to crank out my first MP run of the cycle, but it went pretty well.  I set up the route to have the return portion (the MP miles) about half crosswind and half tailwind.  I figured that was the only way I could actually run MP for 10 miles with it being this warm.  67 degrees is no big deal at the end of the summer, but here in March, my body is not efficient at cooling itself off so it's pretty draining, at least for me.

11 easy, followed by 10 @ GMP (looking for 6:52 or better).

11 @ 7:43 AP.

10 @ 6:42 AP.  (6:46, 6:50, 6:40, 6:42, 6:38, 6:45, 6:43, 6:45, 6:47, 6:26)

Overall for 21 miles, 7:14 AP.

I had a solid tailwind for the last 5 MP miles.  Kinda needed it, or so I thought, but I was still able to crank out a good HMP mile to finish the run, despite about a 30-40' elevation gain on the last mile (albeit with a nice tailwind).  So, a successful run.  I still think I'm hosed if it's this warm for OKC, but my confidence is up right now.

It makes it sweeter that this run comes at the end of a weekly PR for mileage - 83 (I count Mon-Sun).  I gotta think that with a taper and cool weather that 6:40s is going to be a lot easier.

Saucony A4 Miles: 21.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From allie on Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 11:11:35 from 97.126.223.167

wow. awesome MP miles today! sub-3, sub-3, sub-3. you'll get it for sure.

From Jake K on Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 12:37:19 from 67.177.21.60

Great run. We basically did the same exact long run / workout this weekend.

Nothing wrong with setting up the course to take advantage of the wind a little. I did the same thing. Running MP miles during peak mileage is never super easy. I think its better to run the right speed (or a bit faster) w/ the wind at your back than fighting it and going slower. Even if the effort level is the same, you want to train the neuromuscular system to be able to lock into that true marathon pace. Its sort of like running a very gradual downhill - there are some good benefits to doing that.

From I Just Run on Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 15:45:26 from 166.147.77.48

Wow Joe...You're really taking it to another level! Could you put your number on your back at OKC so I will be able to see you?

From SlowJoe on Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 20:28:37 from 69.131.141.92

allie - thanks, should I get a sub-3 tattoo yet?

Jake - just checked out your run, nice. Before, I just thought I was cheating, now I feel smart.

IJR - thanks, hopefully we'll see each other there this time... and there won't be 40-mph hail again.

From derhammer on Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 09:29:32 from 192.156.110.40

Wow - awesome run and miles. Definitely looking strong.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
0.000.000.00

Today ends a 34-day running streak.  Never meant to go that many days without a day off, whoops.  It's a good time for one, with rain all day and a tough 21-miler yesterday.  Got over 8 hours of sleep last night for the first time in awhile - should be able to pick up where I left off tomorrow morning.

Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Dan on Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 22:27:52 from 24.209.83.20

Nice run yesterday and smart day off.

From derhammer on Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 14:36:57 from 192.156.110.34

A well deserved day off!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
14.070.0014.07

AM - 53F, ESE 15 mph. Nice and cool again. 10 @ 7:56 AP

PM - 58F, 4.07 @ 8:30 AP

1150s Red #1 Miles: 10.001150s Red #2 Miles: 4.07
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From DaleG on Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:02:01 from 174.52.230.9

Nice job, Joe. How's life in Oklahoma treating you so far?

From I Just Run on Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 13:58:12 from 67.79.11.242

This is like a slow cruise for you :-) nice run.

From Steam8 on Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 19:59:46 from 166.70.55.77

Nice and super easy for you FASTJoe! Nice run!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
15.000.0015.00

42F, foggy.  7:32 AP.  Really dark out here in the sticks with fog and no moonlight.  For some reason I tried a new route and ended up on soggy dirt roads for the middle 10 miles of this run.  Got it done though, and felt pretty good overall.  15 miles completed before 7am, can't complain about that.

Kinvaras Miles: 15.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 07:35:15 from 67.79.11.242

Good run Joe! It's probably fun to have some new roads to run on :-) I don't know what it is but I've not been excited about the dark, early morning running lately :-(

From Jake K on Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 10:10:06 from 155.100.226.54

Doesn't it feel great to get in 15 when most people are barely out of bed? :-)

From Dan on Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 21:43:46 from 24.209.83.20

Nice AM run - bet you were on time for work!

From Rye on Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 05:36:38 from 75.174.55.82

I'm with you Joe. I have always felt like the best time of the day is around 5am! Nobody in my family seems to think so.

From SlowJoe on Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 18:08:48 from 69.131.141.92

IJR - yeah, I hate daylight savings in the spring. Dark runs for a couple months kinda suck.

Jake - feels great eventually, it's just that first staggering mile at 5am that hurts.

Dan - you know it!

Rye - there is definitely something nice and peaceful about being out there in the early morning hours

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
10.000.0010.00

AM - 43F, 6 @ 8:39 AP.

PM - 58F, 4 @ 8:19 AP.

Time to hit the track tomorrow - I think all my excuses will be gone.  It'll be a great temperature, very little wind, legs recovered from Sunday.  Nothing crazy, maybe 6 x 800.  Can't do too much since it's a 3.5-4 mile run just to get to the track.  See, I knew I could come up with some kind of excuse.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.001150s Red #2 Miles: 4.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 07:41:40 from 67.79.11.242

I think you should just "pre-log" your PM miles at about 20...since I'm sure that's what you'll do :-)

From Dan on Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 19:52:03 from 24.209.83.20

Sounds like a good day to me... I'm not sure the track will work tomorrow there is suppose to be weather.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
10.132.5012.63

49F, low wind.  Nice running weather, bad running.  Went down to the track to do 6 x 800 w/ 400m active recovery this morning.  McMillan says 2:48-2:55 for distance runners.  Figured I could probably do the 2:55, which should roughly be 5k pace.  I got to the track, did a few easy laps, putting off the inevitable, then got started.  I knew after the first lap came in slow that I was in trouble.  My repeats were 2:55, 2:56, 3:01 and 3:07.  When the last lap came in at 1:36 (half marathon pace?) I pulled the plug.  Yuck.  I jogged a few laps then did 4 x 200m (200m slog recovery) since I felt guilty.  Those averaged about 37.  Slogged slowly home and called it a day.

I think it was just an off day, but I can't discount 1) that I'm not used to 80 miles/week yet and 2) that I never do speedwork.  Probably a combination of everything.  Oh well, not too worried about it.

Saucony A4 Miles: 12.63
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Jake K on Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 08:30:39 from 155.100.226.54

Getting into the groove of doing speedwork takes a few sessions. Personally I find it impossible to hit McMillan's paces on shorter reps likes 800s. When you are at peak mileage, its tough to hit those paces. You still got in some good reps, so all was not lost!

From I Just Run on Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 09:24:58 from 67.79.11.242

Can I do your speed work and you do my long runs?

From derhammer on Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 13:12:08 from 192.156.110.39

yup - gotta be the mileage.

From SlowJoe on Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 20:09:24 from 69.131.141.92

Jake - I think McMillan is just playing some evil trick on the world with those times.

IJR - sounds like a great plan. Between the two of us, we might add up to a decent runner!

dh - hoping so. I've never been able to add mileage and keep up speed very well.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
9.320.009.32

AM - 50F, 6 @ 8:27 AP.  My butt is sore from the 200s.  Man, I am getting soft.

PM - 74F, 3.32 @ 8:30 AP.  This little run came after about 4 hours of yard work, which included mowing an acre of tall grass and weeds with a standard lawnmower.  I don't really get seasonal allergies but I am wheezing a little; feels like there are lawn clippings in my lungs.  Let's see if dandelions will actually start growing inside me, I'm sure I inhaled plenty of seeds.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 3.321150s Red #2 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From allie on Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 18:51:30 from 97.126.223.167

i had two dandelions grow inside my middle ear last spring. it's actually not too bad unless they are the kind that come with the tiny, tiny bugs. peanut butter kills them. good luck.

nice double today.

From I Just Run on Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 20:02:25 from 12.162.141.2

You should have let me run the 200's for you :-)

I've got a lot of mowing to do...not looking forward to it!

From Rye on Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 06:25:13 from 174.27.125.137

An acre! Holy schnicky how big of a place

Do you have in okie? Get a ridding mower !!!!

From SlowJoe on Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 08:49:49 from 69.131.141.92

allie - peanut butter...thanks for the tip.

IJR - you can run my 200s for me and do my mowing next time....package deal.

Rye - yeah I might have underestimated the effort level of mowing an acre with a walk-behind mower. It is self-propelled though!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
18.040.0018.04

54F.  Felt terrible to start out but when the caffeine kicked in around mile 4, I started running normally.  7:25/mile overall.

Pretty pleasant except for the dogs at mile 8 (and therefore also mile 10).  One was snarling pretty viciously and looked ready to bite so I made a move at him and shouted at him as loud as I could and he backed off....for about 10 seconds.  Had to repeat the process a couple more times.  Then of course I had to see them again 15 minutes later since it was near my turnaround point.  My shouting did not wake the owners, I guess, because they were nowhere to be seen.  The agressive one was pretty good sized, and could have definitely done some damage.  He must have re-formulated his plan of attack over the 15-minute break, because now he was coming at me from behind instead of from the side.  So I stopped and charged after him for a few steps and shouted "NO" again.  That deterred him long enough to stop caring about chasing me, and he just did his barking from 10-20 feet away after that.  The joys of running out in the country...

Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 18.04
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 08:31:03 from 67.79.11.242

Glad to hear the dog didn't bite you...It would have been ashamed to have to put the dog down because of fear of rabies from you :-)

Nice run but the way!!!

From seeaprilrun on Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 10:18:50 from 68.102.128.85

Ah, this sounds familiar. Time to mace a few dogs and get it over with. Doesn't hurt them terribly and they think twice before getting rowdy again. Great run and pace.

From SlowJoe on Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 17:26:32 from 69.131.141.92

IJR - Well, I feel rabies is something to be shared, not kept to yourself!

April - Hmm, we do have some unused mace that I bought for Danielle from back when we lived in Houston. So far I've been able to scare every loose dog with the alpha male thing, but you never know....

From Rye on Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 19:07:06 from 174.27.86.29

I usually mark the homes out that have dogs with issues and look for a nice rock or two. I hang on to them for a while just in case. How are you at throwing? You want to make sure you hit with the first throw!

From flatlander on Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 15:59:57 from 76.31.26.153

Really laughing at this one, which is OK I think b/c Joe wasn't actually bit. Rye, I thought you were the dog whisperer!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
4.030.004.03

78F, SSE 17 mph.  8:26 AP.  Maybe these little evening 4-milers will help me acclimate sooner this year, so that when the low is 78 pretty soon, it won't feel as bad.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 4.03
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Dan on Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 21:45:31 from 24.209.83.20

I had to do 4 today as well.... Must be the dogs

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
14.000.0014.00

AM - 60F, S 12 mph.  10 @ 7:53 AP.

PM - 75F, SSE 13 mph.  4 @ 8:25 AP.

Legs are just kinda pooped.  I wish I was running Boston this year, mostly because I'm ready to taper now.  Just need to slog through a few more weeks.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 4.00Fastwich Miles: 10.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 07:38:15 from 67.79.11.242

What's the humidity like up there? I assume it's usually pretty low. One problem we have here is it's almost always humid!

From JG on Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 10:03:43 from 71.56.87.5

60 degrees sounds nice! I guess it would help if I ran in the am vs pm! We have already had 10 days in March in the 80's, high humidity, & ridiculously high pollen. I continually find myself dreaming about a summer in the Colorado mtns ... as I have a feeling it is going to be a brutal one here!

From DaleG on Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:36:11 from 71.199.57.238

Nice job, Joe.

From SlowJoe on Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 17:43:39 from 69.131.141.92

IJR - it's a little more humid than Abilene on average, but we'll still have a pretty dry summer I'm thinking.

JG - yeah it is looking like another ugly summer. If you get a place in Colorado, let me know, I can crash on your couch.

Thanks Dale

From Rye on Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 21:07:27 from 174.27.67.141

I love the double! Seems like for me anyway it take a few of them to get the legs used to it. Enjoy that weather!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
18.001.0019.00

AM - 60F.  15 @ 7:25 AP.  The little half of a caffeine pill I take in the morning is really helping.  It's total agony for the first 4 miles or so, then I'm good to go.  Nice smooth run today with the last mile coming in at MP, without much additional effort.

PM - 77F, S 13 mph.  4 @ 8:32 AP.  Moved up a recovery run so I have more free time in Abilene this weekend.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 4.00Kinvaras Miles: 15.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 08:37:37 from 67.79.11.242

Nice running...Mr. Druggie..!

From Dan on Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 15:46:47 from 24.209.83.20

Love those miles that speed up w/o effort

From Rye on Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 16:36:23 from 174.27.119.74

Pill head....

From derhammer on Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 08:21:45 from 192.156.110.39

IJR - definitely a sign he is going off the deep edge by resorting to stimulants. :-) :-)

From SlowJoe on Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 17:50:39 from 69.131.141.92

Today I crushed the caffeine pill and snorted it. Nothing wrong with that though, right?

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
10.120.0010.12

AM - 60F, really dense fog.  6.06 @ 8:48 AP.

PM - 77F, SSE 16-20 mph.  4.06 @ 8:28 AP.

Exciting huh?

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.061150s Red #2 Miles: 4.06
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:07:37 from 67.79.11.242

So...you basiclly swam at a 8:48 pace...wow!

From seeaprilrun on Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 19:45:27 from 68.102.128.85

Totally exciting. Has the humidity already started? It has here, my outdoor runs are now 75 degrees with wicked humidity. Already?! Waaaaaaa. So, let's talk more about Praire Fire. Are you still seriously considering it!? That would be awesome. There will be a whole group of us aiming to get under 3. You would be a gread addition to the hopeful gang!

From Burt on Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 21:48:03 from 174.235.193.33

That was boring. Go pee on someone.

From SlowJoe on Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 07:15:50 from 155.219.241.10

IJR - it sure felt like swimming!

April - yeah, I'm 50/50 between PF and Tulsa (route 66) for a fall marathon - they're roughly the same distance away from here, but I like the timing of PF (a full 6 months before Boston) and if y'all have a big sub-3 group, that would make it even better. Like always I probably won't decide until 3 months out...

Burt - ok, I will get to a cemetary asap.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
13.000.0013.00

63F, SSE 12 mph.  7:32 AP.  Off to Abilene after work!

Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 13.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Rye on Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 06:36:37 from 75.174.55.82

Early riser you! Enjoy your family this weekend! Hope that they will be with you shortly:)

From derhammer on Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 16:10:20 from 192.156.110.34

Have a great trip!

From Dan on Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 23:45:12 from 24.209.83.20

Nice run, safe trip

From flatlander on Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 10:09:17 from 76.31.26.153

So is this when you move the family to your new town? Safe travels this weekend.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.070.005.07

88F, 8:29 AP.  Couldn't get out until the afternoon....hot!  Definitely back in Texas.  The high tomorrow is 94.

I'm going to try a tempo tomorrow, not sure how fast, but I want 6 miles of it.  Even if I can only manage MP, I WILL do 6.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 5.07
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From allie on Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 13:32:25 from 161.38.218.168

94! where is texas? i want to live there.

nice job getting the miles in when you could today. heat training makes you strong!

From flatlander on Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 14:07:54 from 76.31.26.153

I dunno, 6 is pretty far, mr. 83-mile man.

From Dan on Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 17:58:24 from 24.209.83.20

Take your water Joe!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
10.006.0016.00

69F, SSW 17-25 mph.  Hot and windy this morning but I still had a great tempo run.  8 easy, then 6 tempo, followed by 2 cooldown.  You better believe I set myself up for success again, taking out the headwind up front and leaving all tailwind/crosswind for the tempo part.

8 easy - 7:41 AP.

6 tempo - 6:24 AP (6:39, 6:29, 6:30, 6:26, 6:24, 5:57)

2 cooldown - 7:43, 7:36

Overall for 16 miles - 7:12 AP

Pretty excited.  I really clawed my way down to sub-6 on the last mile, pretty hard effort, but sometimes you just need to know you can do it.  The 6:24 average is even inside McMillan's suggested tempo pace range for me, albeit at the slow end.  As warm as it was this morning, I'll take it!

One more 80+ mile week then I will start to throttle back a bit.  In one week, I'll do 22 w/ 12 MP; that'll be my last MP run.

Saucony A4 Miles: 16.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From flatlander on Sun, Apr 01, 2012 at 08:32:37 from 76.31.26.153

Wow, that is super. Can't believe that sub-6 for the last tempo mile. That is some serious running. Can't wait for your 22 (12). I never do too well on those, maybe you will inspire me.

From Daniel Brunson on Sun, Apr 01, 2012 at 09:15:57 from 68.14.171.105

Awesome tempo run Joe! You are inspiring me. I only wish you lived closer so I could train with someone who is faster than me.

From SlowJoe on Sun, Apr 01, 2012 at 20:24:08 from 69.131.141.92

Flat - thanks, yeah the 12 MP will be tough, given the hills around here. It was nice doing the tempo in flat Abilene.

Daniel - Thanks - One thing I'm definitely missing is a good training partner to suffer along with. Don't know about Tulsa, but the running community around Lawton is non-existent from what I can tell.

From Daniel Brunson on Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 06:17:52 from 68.14.171.105

The running community is pretty big in Tulsa. We have two great running shoe stores each with training groups. I have a running buddy that runs a majority of my long runs with me. In 2010 we we ran pretty close to the same pace, but he switched to a barefoot shoe in 2011 and his pace is still recovering.

From Daniel Brunson on Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 06:22:45 from 68.14.171.105

The only problem with all of Tulsa's available training groups was that the last time I checked we did not have any that paced a BQ time in my age group.

From flatlander on Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 06:31:26 from 198.207.244.102

Daniel, not to hijack Joe's blog, but had to laugh about your friend who switched to barefoot shoes and lost his mojo. I did the same thing and am always looking for excuses, so this one is a great add. Hope all is well in Tulsa. Also hope you get to run with Joe, but if you do don't worry about his speed. He is extremely fast but extremely polite. He will run whatever pace you wish and make you think that he is struggling.

From derhammer on Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 07:36:48 from 192.156.110.33

Awesome job as always.

From I Just Run on Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 09:15:12 from 67.79.11.242

The first thing my eyes saw when I opened your blog was the 5:57...Wow, what a great run. You're in a perfect spot to run a Sub-3 at OKC!

From Jake K on Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 10:39:40 from 155.100.226.54

Great finish to that tempo - dropping the hammer!

From SlowJoe on Tue, Apr 03, 2012 at 12:03:49 from 155.219.241.10

Daniel - dang, too bad about your buddy getting into the barefoot craze!

Flat - you forgot to mention I bring crummy weather wherever I go

dh - thanks

IJR - thanks, I don't feel much improvement from Houston, but you never know...

Jake - thanks

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.000.005.00

79F, SSE 18-25 mph.  8:28 AP.  Back in OK..

1150s Red #2 Miles: 5.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Kelli on Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 18:21:31 from 71.219.85.126

I AM SO TIRED OF WIND!!!!

Nice run, though.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
14.160.0014.16

AM - 58F.  10 @ 7:45 AP.  Cool lightning display off to the east after a big storm blew through.

PM - 63F.  4.1 @ 8:31 AP.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 4.10Fastwich Miles: 10.06
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From derhammer on Tue, Apr 03, 2012 at 10:40:50 from 192.156.110.34

Sounds like a great show to see while running. BTW - Mike and Russ are impressed with your recent training. I have been keeping the updated on your crazy good workouts. :-)

From SlowJoe on Tue, Apr 03, 2012 at 20:11:32 from 69.131.141.92

dh - thanks, I think I have had a grand total of 2 successful workouts this cycle and Sunday was one of them. Going to be interesting to see if sheer mileage will win the day for me at OKC, because that's about all I've done!

From seeaprilrun on Tue, Apr 03, 2012 at 20:51:59 from 68.102.128.85

Never underestimate the power of mileage! 2:55 at PF in October with ME! The lightning show sounds super cool.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
14.001.0515.05

51F, NW 10 mph.  7:23 AP today, felt really smooth and finished up with a MP mile.  I think I'm finally adjusting to 80-mile weeks, although this is the last one for quite awhile.  I am going to keep these mid-week 15-milers going after OKC though; I think they have been big endurance builders for me.

Kinvaras Miles: 15.05
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 10:35:06 from 67.79.11.242

Great milage Joe! Looks like your weather was really nice too!

From derhammer on Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 10:20:19 from 192.156.110.40

Yes, I agree with the weekday medium long runs. I don't like being off of my normal training schedule like I have been, so I can't wait to get back on it in the training for CIM 2012.

From flatlander on Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 12:54:38 from 64.129.54.210

Very stout run, you are looking great.

From Andrea on Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 18:19:27 from 67.177.21.60

I always felt like the midweek medium-long runs helped me a lot with endurance and strength too.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
10.060.0010.06

AM - 51F, 6 @ 8:38 AP.

PM - 66F, 4 @ 7:53 AP.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.061150s Red #2 Miles: 4.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Kelli on Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 22:32:48 from 71.219.98.16

Likin' the weather! And you must be like me and run faster in the PM!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
12.000.0012.00

51F.  7:40 AP.  Kept it pretty relaxed today, trying to save my legs for the 22 w/ 12 on Sunday.

Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 12.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Benn Griffin on Fri, Apr 06, 2012 at 07:09:00 from 72.43.210.34

Wow. You really put up startling numbers for mileage! Jelaous! Nice work, mate!

From Rye on Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 11:19:10 from 174.27.92.53

Amen to that! Serious miles and good luck to your fun Sunday.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

68F, S 12 mph.  8:28 AP.  Big run tomorrow.  Weird that my last big training run for Houston fell right on Christmas, and now Easter for OKC.

It's been a busy week at work and the family is here in OK this weekend, but I will catch up with everyone Sunday evening.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Andrea on Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 14:40:09 from 67.177.21.60

Sounds to me like you are just trying to get away from family during the holidays :)

From Dan on Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 18:08:19 from 24.209.83.20

Nice week Joe, enjoy the Easter run and Easter itself!

From Burt on Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 21:25:36 from 72.223.93.158

It's a sign. You need to convert to Buddhism.

From flatlander on Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 08:56:28 from 207.238.52.82

Good luck on your big run today.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
10.0012.0022.00

57F, NE 10 mph.  Happy Easter, everyone.  This was my last long MP run for this training cycle.  I had yet to try a tempo run here at my Oklahoma home - it's pretty hilly here, with basically no flat stretches, so I wasn't sure how it would go.  10 easy, followed by 12 MP.

10 easy - 7:30 AP.

12 MP - 6:45 AP.  Splits were 7:01, 6:50, 6:44, 6:42, 6:46, 6:52, 6:44, 6:44, 6:44, 6:47, 6:34, 6:30.

22 total - 7:05 AP.

Frantic.  That would be the word to describe this run.  I'd push hard uphill to avoid losing too much time, then have to sprint downhill to make up for lost time, then repeat.  So I never got into a groove with it, it was like a 12-mile sprint, but it was still a success.  OKC won't be this hilly, so I think I'm in good shape.  I unwittingly picked a route with 4 miles of gravel, rocky roads.  Here are the rocks I had to pry out of my A5's after my run:

The holes in the bottom of the sole work great keeping your feet dry when it's raining, but it comes at a cost!

And so ends a 5-week, 400+ mile blitz.  I'm not that much faster now than I was before Houston, but I just need a 71-second PR on a slightly tougher course.  No eye-popping workouts this time, just lots of miles.  We'll see if it was enough!

Saucony A5 Miles: 22.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Daniel Brunson on Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 09:08:05 from 68.14.171.105

Awesome run Joe. You are going to rock it in the city. I live in a pretty hilly area too. Sometimes I forget how hilly it is until someone comes running with me for the first time. My trails never fail to elicit comments on the hills.

From Jake K on Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 12:16:54 from 67.177.21.60

That's another great LR/Tempo! Miles make champions. The marathon is an aerobic event - even if you aren't faster, if you are STRONGER, you'll be good to go.

Type As are totally rock magnets.

From Dan on Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 20:23:45 from 24.209.83.20

Great run Joe, I have to agree on the stronger comments. You are looking good for OKC.

From Burt on Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 21:08:37 from 72.223.93.158

7:05 pace for 22 miles??? With 10 lbs of rock hitching a ride on your shoes???

From Neil on Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 21:12:45 from 97.121.40.61

Great workout! The type of mileage you've been putting in has a dividend and OKC is where you collect. Congrats on making it to the taper.

From ACorn on Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 22:58:20 from 24.2.76.146

Great tempo run! The fact that your last miles are the fastest is an awesome sign.

From seeaprilrun on Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 00:32:27 from 205.172.12.229

Looking good Joe! I think you have it made!

From JG on Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 21:47:43 from 71.56.87.5

Mile 22: 6:30? Are you taking steroids?!

Great run, excited to see you crush OKC!

From SlowJoe on Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 06:22:01 from 69.131.141.92

Daniel - yeah, I am definitely on the lookout for a flat area for future tempo runs

Jake - thanks, I am definitely going to test that theory out this time

Dan - thanks, feeling good about it.

Burt - that's a good point, I wonder how much all those rocks weigh!

Neil - hoping to - I like the stock reference, since I haven't realized many capital gains yet...waiting for that quarterly dividend!

ACorn - thanks, I think I naturally sandbag juuuust a little on these runs.

April - thanks!

JG - not quite steroids, my PED is caffeine. Good luck at Boston!

From baldnspicy on Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 22:28:57 from 141.0.8.121

You rock, Joe. Good luck at OKC!

From flatlander on Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 14:19:08 from 76.31.26.153

I'm late to the game, but super run. You have done everything possible for this marathon, it should be a great one.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.070.008.07

AM - 57F.  8 @ 7:47 AP.  Given the degree-of-difficulty of Sunday's run, I felt pretty decent today.

 

1150s Red #2 Miles: 8.07
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 07:10:20 from 67.79.11.242

You're looking really good Joe...I read your Sunday blog. Now all you have to hope for is good weather!

From Steam8 on Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 09:52:57 from 166.70.55.77

Loved reading your last post! Those little rocks drive me crazy when they get stuck and I am scraping them along with me! Nice running FAST JOE!!!

From allie on Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 15:30:16 from 161.38.218.168

that is a good sign. nice job, joe.

From Rye on Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 21:52:24 from 174.27.86.251

Wow I just looked at Sundays post.... Animal!

From derhammer on Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 15:36:38 from 192.156.110.34

Um, yeah. Phenomenal run on Sunday. Well done.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
13.070.0013.07

59F.  7:34 AP.  Felt crappy on the run for some reason, then later in the day I figured out why...I am definitely getting sick.  Timing-wise it could be a lot worse, I guess.  Glad this isn't happening 2 weeks from now anyway.

I actually missed my PM run yesterday, just ran out of time.  Sometimes you just need a 25-hour day to get it all done.  I chose a normal night's sleep over a recovery 4-miler.  I guess if I run a 3:00:01 at OKC I'll know why!

Fastwich Miles: 13.07
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Andrea on Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 17:43:22 from 67.177.21.60

Get the sickness over now so you'll be good to know by race day!

I'm pretty sure the rest is more important right now :)

From Rye on Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 18:28:54 from 174.27.86.251

Bummer.....Get well speedy joe

From I Just Run on Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 08:24:33 from 67.79.11.242

There's no way you'll run a 3:00:01...It will be much faster :-)

You ran a 3:15:52 last year and will have a 16:00 over that! That's amazing!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
4.070.004.07

1150s Red #1 Miles: 4.07
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
11.100.0011.10

66F, S 12 mph.  7:32 AP.  Still sick.  Sorry I haven't been on the blog much this week, I will catch up with everyone this weekend.  My truck broke down earlier this week and that's been a huge hassle.  Yesterday I even tried to mow the lawn and the lawnmower broke (it is less than a month old).  Not getting in the miles I wanted running-wise, thanks to this cold or whatever it is.  Feel exhausted...  All temporary stuff though, hopefully I can recover this weekend.

Kinvaras Miles: 11.10
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 09:21:44 from 67.79.11.242

Still looks to me you're running strong being sick and all..!! Sorry about the break-downs, I'm sure things will get better soon :-)

From Daniel Brunson on Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 07:57:57 from 68.14.171.105

Sorry to hear about the mechanical difficulties. Nothing can be more frustrating than when things quit working.

But I digress...My favorite thing about reading your blog is that your slow miles are about even with my fast miles at this point in time in my training. You are really motivating me to continue to crank it up a notch. Thanks!

From SlowJoe on Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 16:00:39 from 69.131.141.92

IJR - truck is fixed, mower is exchanged, cold is starting to feel better. How about you, after your last LR?

Daniel - that was probably more like my medium pace, I still run 8:30/mile a lot. I need a "medium miles" category!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

69F, SSE 20-25 mph.  8:29 AP.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From allie on Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 16:09:03 from 174.23.129.16

v3r7 n1c3.

From flatlander on Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 16:31:37 from 198.207.244.102

VERY NICE

From Kelli on Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 18:23:10 from 71.219.98.16

THAT is too much wind. you do not weigh enough to venture out in that!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
12.005.0017.00

58F, SW 10 mph.  7:03 AP.  Really felt strong today.  Maybe a little too strong, I don't need to be peaking quite yet.  My purpose for the run was just to get some harder aerobic miles but I got to feeling really good and pushed it into a nice progressive run.

8:02, 7:32, 7:25, 7:26, 7:27, 7:04, 7:04, 7:08, 7:16, 7:10, 7:05, 7:03, 6:40, 6:38, 6:29, 6:25, 6:06.

The last 3 miles, which averaged 6:20, were an overall net uphill of 90 ft.  That about sums it up.  I think I've gotten my fitness to sub-3 standards, it'll just be a matter of getting a decent day on April 29th.  I don't think I have a lot of room to spare for a hot day, high wind, etc.  We shall see!

Speaking of hot days, good luck to everyone running Boston!  I will be watching/tracking...

Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 17.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From derhammer on Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 13:02:53 from 24.34.199.36

Wow - phenomenal run, man. Looking good for OKC.

I see that the BigD marathon in Dallas had better weather then we will tomorrow. Go figure.

From DaleG on Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 13:06:37 from 71.199.57.238

Nice progressive run.

From baldnspicy on Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 21:18:25 from 141.0.10.148

Doesn't get much better than that! Great job, Joe.

From I Just Run on Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 08:50:05 from 67.79.11.242

Sub 3 here you come...great run, now it's time to rest!

From Rye on Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 18:56:05 from 174.27.70.213

Nice! You are soooo ready!

From seeaprilrun on Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 18:15:03 from 68.102.128.85

That is one solid run, and your are very very fit right now! I'm just dreaming of your sub-3!

From SlowJoe on Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 19:32:11 from 69.131.141.92

thanks everyone!

dh - yeah we had a 45 degree low on Monday morning and the high was maybe 70. unbelieveable...

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
4.000.004.00

8:21 AP

1150s Red #1 Miles: 4.00
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
4.100.004.10

73F, SE 10 mph.  PM run, 7:53 AP.  Just regenerating my legs, last workout is Thursday.  Don't think I'll be doing the 3 x 1600 this time.  Maybe just a simple 4-5 mile tempo at HMP.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 4.10
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Dan on Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 21:50:48 from 24.209.83.20

Great work over the weekend, your training is taking you to the next level!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
7.000.007.00

52F.  7:24 AP.  Brisk pace felt really easy in the cool air.  Hopefully I didn't cut too much mileage last week....paranoid taper thoughts.  One more workout for this cycle - probably 10 w/4 @ HMP tomorrow.

Fastwich Miles: 7.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Rye on Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 11:23:06 from 174.27.65.101

I think that you will find that you are in great shape. Good luck with the taper thing....... I know that can be a bit tough......52 degrees.....that's like perfect.

From I Just Run on Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 12:55:39 from 67.79.11.242

You're in perfect shape...! I think, if I were you, I'd just not run at all until the race and not take any chances :-) BTW...I'm goning to run 10 hard tempo miles tomorrow :-(

From Dan on Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 20:29:22 from 24.209.83.20

MmMmmmm cool air.... nice Joe!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.005.0010.00

57F, SSE 12 mph.  6:51 AP.  I took today as my last opportunity to get faster before OKC.  Goal was 6 easy, followed by 4 @ HMP.

6 easy - 7:09 AP (7:27, 7:18, 7:08, 7:05, 7:02, 6:51)  Ok, so not exactly "easy."

4 @ HMP - 6:25 AP (6:25, 6:27, 6:24, 6:23)

I'm not going to get into the habit of running warmup miles that fast.  I really just wanted to get moving and have the lactate flowing right away on the tempo portion, which I think happened.  Anyway, the workout was just what I wanted and I even ended up averaging my goal MP for the run as a whole.

First look at OKC on the 10-day forecast shows a low of 60, which probably means a finish near 70.  Not ideal but I wouldn't let it affect my time goal if the forecast holds up there.  I can't really complain too much after seeing what happened in Boston, but I will still be hoping for cooler!

Saucony A4 Miles: 10.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From derhammer on Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 08:45:16 from 192.156.110.33

Ha, sounds like what Russ and I were doing on the easy miles before a good tempo. Nice run. Yes, I am really hoping you will see some nice cool temps.

From I Just Run on Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 08:52:06 from 67.79.11.242

Yeah...I thought I had caught you when I read the first comment "6 easy" but then you corrected yourself :-)

I'm predicting 55 degrees at the start. I think I can do a better job at predicting the weather than the weatherman...without any scientific data :-)

From Steam8 on Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 11:51:48 from 166.70.55.77

You are lookin' good....faster than ever FASTJOE! I am so excited for OKC! I hope that you and IJR kick some trash!

From Dan on Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 18:07:46 from 24.209.83.20

Steam is right... FAST JOE is in order... or at least 'Not so SlowJoe' - Forecasts are like my fortune cookies. It could snow in OKC

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.000.005.00

58F NNW 17-24 mph.  8:26 AP.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 5.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Dan on Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 19:10:10 from 24.209.83.20

Hope some of that wind was at the back

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
7.000.007.00

54F.  7:34 AP.  I am in Abilene this weekend.  A nice stomach virus has taken over this household, and my 5-year-old keeps asking me for hugs and kisses.  Guessing it won't be too long before I am hugging the toilet as well!

1150s Red #1 Miles: 7.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From seeaprilrun on Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 12:31:31 from 68.102.128.85

just as long as you get it over with before sub-3 day...

From Dan on Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 21:06:15 from 24.209.83.20

Hug it well!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
13.000.0013.00

55F.  Still haven't caught the stomach bug yet, maybe I will be spared.  7:14 AP this morning.  Amazing what feels easy with low mileage legs.

Kinvaras Miles: 13.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Daniel Brunson on Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 08:40:09 from 68.14.171.105

Good run. I love how easy it feels to bust out a half marathon on the taper.

From seeaprilrun on Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 08:51:38 from 68.102.128.85

Dude I would love to be at your fitness level right now!

From I Just Run on Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 09:13:14 from 67.79.11.242

Hey Joe...Did you see the latest weather report on Weather.com? They are predicting 54 degrees at race time... :-)

From seeaprilrun on Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 11:46:44 from 68.102.128.85

Don't worry, he saw it. He's been tracking it for two weeks on five different sites.

From I Just Run on Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 12:01:35 from 166.205.10.147

I thought I saw him smiling in his profile picture!

From Andrea on Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 12:38:08 from 72.37.171.52

Hope you are able to get by without the bug. Sounds like your taper is going well! You are definitely capable of sub-3..now it's mental preparation time!

From Dan on Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 18:58:56 from 24.209.83.20

You're ready Joe... Take some emergency-c and avoid that bug!

From SlowJoe on Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 19:10:39 from 69.131.141.92

Well, despite my best efforts I spent a miserable, nasty day with the toilet (which will never be the same). Good news is it's a 24-hour thing, based on the how the rest of the family recovered. I am already feeling a little better from this morning (at least I am mobile now). Hoping I could even do a short run by tomorrow night.

IJR - I did see that weather (whew) on the five different sites I've been tracking for two weeks.

From Burt on Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 20:19:56 from 72.223.82.180

Oh great! Are you contagious? Why did I come to your blog. Get me some Lysol!

From Rye on Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 20:48:42 from 174.27.100.104

Did you puke up any toe nails?

From I Just Run on Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 07:24:00 from 67.79.11.242

weather.com now says 51 degrees for Sunday morning...Too cold for me :-)

From JG on Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 07:38:19 from 71.57.246.108

Hope it passes quickly Joe, best of luck Sunday ... your training has been spot on!

From derhammer on Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 09:07:29 from 192.156.110.39

Joe, I can't wait to live vicariously through you on Sunday. I know you will run a sub 3 - of that I have no doubt!

From Neil on Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 09:20:48 from 164.165.24.5

Nothing like a case of violent diarrhea and spastic vomiting to bring you down to race weight. ;) Remember, over 26.2 miles 1 lb = 1 min.

From flatlander on Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 10:20:13 from 198.207.244.102

All I can say is get as much rest as you possibly can, eat as much as you want, and only run after you can't sleep any more. For me, after getting a bug, there is residual weakness for a while that doesn't show up until quite late in the marathon (I have run a couple this way). You are young so it might not happen to the same extent, but I still think rest is king. A couple of well-spaced hard 3-mile runs should suffice to maintain fitness. So exciting to see you and Preston go for it on a cool morning in OKC.

From SlowJoe on Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 11:49:07 from 155.219.241.10

thanks everyone, I'm definitely not 100% yet but feel like I should be able to do a short run after work.

Neil - Sweet, I definitely dropped a couple minutes yesterday!

flat - thanks for the good input and advice. the timing could definitely have been worse

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
4.060.004.06

88F, SSW 13-24 mph.  Short run after work to test the waters.  Felt a little weak, but not bad considering what life was like yesterday at this time.  Couple of throw-up burps but otherwise fine.  8:10 AP.

I'm thinking about going ahead with my 8-miler w/ 2-3 @ MP tomorrow, which was the original plan.  Thursday feels a little too late, though it probably doesn't matter that much.  I'd hate for the MP miles to feel hard tomorrow because of residual stomach bug effects, and then shatter my fragile confidence.  Maybe I'll just do them downhill.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 4.06
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From JG on Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 19:28:32 from 71.57.246.108

Nice 4 mile shakeout. Dude, with over 1,000 miles under your belt this year, the only thing that will help you Sunday at this point is being healthy & 100% recovered from spewing your insides out! 100% not 98% ... I would cut that 8 miler in half & focus on hydration/nutrition ... you are going to rock OKC with all your strength back!

From SlowJoe on Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 20:04:33 from 69.131.141.92

JG - thanks, you are probably right. I just do really poorly the less I run. I take 2 days off and I feel like the fat kid in gym class, all out of breath and sluggish. Definitely a fine line, I hate tapering!

From JG on Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 20:10:37 from 71.57.246.108

I know that is what you prefer & under normal circumstances would not have said that ... but I once heard it takes 48 hours to get your strength back from a 24 hour bug ... or maybe I made that up ... I just know 26 miles digs deep into strength reserves ... hence I would conserve! :)

From seeaprilrun on Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 22:01:26 from 205.172.12.229

I think JG is right on but I am the same way about getting rickety after just one day off. Maybe cut it to 5 miles with just 2 at MP and not take much stock in it?

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
4.132.006.13

59F, S 10 mph.  7:16 AP.  I went out having decided I would just do this run by feel.  Anything from 5 easy to 8 w/3 @ MP.  The warmup miles felt pretty good, but not quite as good as they did pre-puke-day so I decided on something in the middle -- 6 w/2 MP.  The MP miles felt nice, I just concentrated on relaxing through them - 6:36 (way downhill), 6:46 (slightly uphill).

Seeing a lot of variation in weaher preditions for the race.  48F for a low from weather.com, all the way up to 63F from accuweather and 59F from weather.gov.  The latter usually spots the new trend first (uh oh) but even 59 would be ok if it meant temps would stay in the 60s.  I might still be able to survive sub-3 pace.  The 3 local stations range from 52 and 58.  We'll see how it plays out!

trying to figure out what "washout" means...

Saucony A4 Miles: 6.13
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 08:02:59 from 67.79.11.242

Hi Joe,

Got your PM, I'll call you.

I think I'm going to run something like what you did (but not as fast) on this run for my run tomorrow and then call it quits for the rest of the week.

I've only been looking at weather.com so I'm thinking 48 degrees, 30 mph wind, lighting and driving rain and hail...maybe I'm just a little paranoid!!! Sound a little familiar?

From Dan on Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 20:40:28 from 24.209.83.20

Good rehearsal Joe, washout is what happens when it's 89, you're safe ;) I bet that changes a lot over the next 2 days

From seeaprilrun on Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 23:55:00 from 68.102.128.85

good paces to be relaxed at. I think you will run a 2:58

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.080.006.08

67F, ENE 10 mph.  8:35 AP.

I hate you weather.com.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.08
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From JG on Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 07:54:06 from 71.57.246.108

Nice shakeout miles ... hope you are regaining all your strength!

I like Intellicast ... which says low of 62 & high of 74, certainly not ideal, but better than current conditions in the high 80's! I remember rejoicing when I saw the Boston forecast on Thursday ... then when I got off the plane Friday morning I was greeted by an e-mail from B.A.A. advising me that if I was not an elite runner or extremely fit, I should seriously consider deferring my entry until next year ... will keep my fingers crossed for you guys ... with a storm front passing through ... things are more likely to change from what they forecast!

From I Just Run on Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 08:32:55 from 67.79.11.242

I do too....!

From derhammer on Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 10:07:32 from 192.156.110.40

For me it all has to do with the sun. Cloudy - good, full sun - not so good.

From flatlander on Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 10:31:54 from 198.207.244.102

Bummer, but DH is right, the sun always ruins my hydration strategy even if it's not that warm. Seems like I can put up with a lot more if I don't have the solar effect on my skin. Maybe even if the front hasn't moved through it will be cloudy? Either way you will do fine.

From Rye on Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 21:29:24 from 174.27.100.104

Hey joe .... Try national weather Doppler.

They are easier to like.

From Dan on Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 21:34:33 from 24.209.83.20

That's one change... I said wait for two... You're still looking strong Joe!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
4.050.004.05

68F, SSE 15 mph.  7:40 AP which included a few pickups.

I did not feel fast today, just haven't regained that spring in my step from last week.  All in all, I just don't have a great feeling about this marathon like I have for the past 3.  The plan will still be to go out at sub-3 pace until I can't hold it anymore.  Possible bonk, but I have nothing to lose with this one so might as well try.

Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 4.05
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 08:16:55 from 67.79.11.242

I think the race day enthusiasm will bring the spring back into your step.

How do you think 60's weather will affect your running and time?

I feel like a bum...I haven't run but once this week!

From Neil on Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 09:29:02 from 164.165.24.5

Sounds like taper madness. You'll do just fine. You're primed w/ some great training in the bank. Concentrate on getting as much sleep as possible tonight because you know you won't get any tomorrow night.

From JG on Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 09:42:19 from 71.57.246.108

Sleep & Hydration, you will rock it like a rocket!

From Andrea on Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 09:53:45 from 72.37.171.52

The mind and body can play lots of tricks on you before a race. Try not to read too much into it.

Get that "possible bonk" out of your head!! You're going to run great!

From Steam8 on Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 20:07:45 from 166.70.55.77

It is just nerves! You are so fast....can't wait to see what you will do! Good luck!

From CookieLegs on Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 20:18:31 from 69.227.152.140

Good luck with the race! Get a lot of hydration (maybe some gatorade in case you lost electrolytes earlier this week)and good food tomorrow morning, and your legs will be well fueled and ready to go on Sunday!

And, since none of us have any doubts about your running abilities, we'll just have to hope for good weather!

From Dan on Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 20:19:45 from 24.209.83.20

Joe, I believe in you, and this is why tapers suck...BUT trust in your training, you got this.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
0.000.000.00

Decided to skip the run today.  We will be heading up to OKC in the afternoon and we're going to do a few things with Danielle's parents this morning.

Weather for the race?  64-68F, 85-90% humidity, possible t-storms, and the best part: a crosswind for the first half of the course that will actually shift in direction and strengthen to a stiff headwind in time for the last 10k (which is uphill).  Can't win em all I guess.  Bib is 420, I'll have a report up Sunday night.

Weight: 0.00
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From Steam8 on Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 08:38:07 from 166.70.55.77

I'll be trying to see if I can track you and IJR. Good luck! I am sure you will show that race who is boss! Can't wait to read the report!

From derhammer on Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 11:44:37 from 70.113.125.159

Good luck man. You are so mentally strong that I am not that worried for you.

From Dan on Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 14:00:46 from 24.209.83.20

Makes it all the sweeter

From seeaprilrun on Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 01:54:15 from 205.172.12.229

Sounds kinda like Houston, except for the wind.

From Dan on Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 08:12:19 from 76.235.48.87

1:29 at the half, go Joe!

From Neil on Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 08:35:22 from 97.121.40.61

2:17 at the 32k mark (just under 20mi). Needs to finish the last 10k in under 43mins. Very doable. Go Joe!

From Dan on Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 11:28:57 from 24.209.83.20

Looks like you had a strong race a Joe, look forward to the report

From flatlander on Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 11:51:49 from 76.31.26.153

Can't believe you hit that close to a PR in those conditions, looking forward to the report.

From Neil on Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 12:49:04 from 97.121.40.61

Great job today! Strong race in horrible conditions. Looking forward to he report.

Race: Oklahoma City Marathon (26.22 Miles) 03:02:59, Place overall: 23, Place in age division: 5
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
0.0026.2226.22

Temp/humidity - 68F, 80% humidity start, 65F, 94% humidity finish.  Weather - overcast + some rain.  Wind - many different directions and speeds, but surprisingly not much of a factor.

The short version of the story is I did not get sub-3, did not PR, but feel pretty good about the race.  I had a really up-and-down journey today, where usually I'm pretty even keel and my performance just goes in one direction.  I don't ever do well over 60 degrees, no matter what I try, so to get close to my 3:01 Houston PR, which was on a much easier course and under much easier conditions, I think this was definitely a higher-quality performance.  That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

Pre-race - got to talk to Preston (IJR) at the expo and again at the starting line.  It was great to finally meet him in person.  No big surprises leading up to the gun.  I just got up near the front since this is not a super fast race and took off feeling fine.

Miles 1-5 - 6:41, 6:42, 6:39, 6:30, 6:47.  By mile 1 I was pouring sweat.  Dammit.  I made up my mind early on that I was going to pretend it wasn't hot and humid, and just go for it.  I had nothing to lose.  I may, may, may have gotten a little carried away in the early miles but under ideal conditions I would venture to say it would have been the correct pace.  I made sure to grab water and gatorade at every aid station and I think that saved me from a more significant bonk in the long run.

Miles 6-10 - 6:36, 6:52, 6:33, 6:59, 6:52.  Still going under the who-cares-if-it's-too-fast plan through mile 8 (mile 7 was "gorilla hill").  Miles 9 and 10 are two of the toughest on the course, climbing about 100' between the two.  I'd remembered that from last year but man, it REALLY felt like it killed me this year.  I got passed by 3 or 4 people in this stretch and felt completely slammed (already).

Miles 11-15 - 7:05, 7:03, 7:09, 7:02, 6:55.  Struggle, struggle, struggle. Unlike last year I did not bounce back on this stretch.  Mile 11 my legs were already tightening up and getting heavy.  This is the sensation I usually get in a marathon 10 miles later!  I was ready to mentally give up and could already picture myself running 8:30 pace the rest of the way.  Now that I look at the splits it doesn't seem quite so bad, but the pain and discomfort were definitely there.  This is the flattest section, so it was what it was.  Crossed the half in 1:29:33.  Hmm, perfect time, but too bad I felt so terrible.  Then, sometime after mile 14, it started raining.  It felt awesome and my pace instantly got better.  I think I had unwittingly recovered a bit and the rain cooled me off enough to start pushing a bit more.

Miles 16-20 - 6:51, 6:59, 7:07, 7:12, 6:48.  So I decided I would get up to sub-3 pace again to see what happened.  It became clear that it was exceeding my speed limit.  Every time I pushed it to sub-7 my legs would turn into bricks.  Oh well, I tried.  I think the damage was done in the first 10k, and so I went back to survival pace.  Don't get too excited about mile 20, it was a 70 foot drop.

Mile 21-finish - 7:06, 7:30, 7:16, 7:22, 6:57, 7:13, 2:16 for 0.36 (6:18 pace).  Damaged goods for the last 10k.  I hate this strech on this race anyway.  Uphill, and the course joins with the half-marathon course for most of it.  I always add a tenth of a mile of bonus running to my race on this part due to weaving around the HM folks.  Still, believe it or not, I passed 3 full marathoners in the last 10k and did not get passed myself.  I think it was a hard day for everyone.  I did manage to put on a pretty nice sprint at the end, having noticed I had a chance to break 3:03.  Almost ashamed that it was that much faster than the miles before it.  I guess I was guilty of cruising a little when my dreams got crushed.

It took Danielle and I forever to find each other after the race, so I missed IJR's finish.  I guzzled a bunch of liquids and we made our way back home.  Nice that it was only an hour's drive for me this year.

So, like I said, I will deem the race a success.  I am pretty sure that I'm faster than the guy who just ran 3:01 at Houston a few months ago.  I can only hope that 3:01 will still get me into Boston since there were a bunch of deferments this year.

Fall marathon - Either Wichita KS in October or Tulsa in November.  Either way, there is no way...absolutely no way at all...that there will be a 3 in front of my time in that race.  I will go ahead and declare that now!  Plan for this summer is to drop back to 65-70 mpw and work on speed more.  I am already disappointed that racing season is over, but I made some great improvements and don't plan to let up too much this summer.  Sorry the report is so long; if you made it to the end, congrats to you as well!

Saucony A5 Miles: 26.22
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From allie on Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 14:40:52 from 97.126.212.167

joe - congrats. great race, and i will agree that it's probably a stronger performance than houston. i was just looking at the course profile this morning and it looked tough with a good amount of rollers. weather wasn't the best either. you absolutely will get the sub-3. you have been so very close both times -- shows you have the strength, speed and overall fitness, you just need the right day for it to come together (the joy of marathoning -- the right day can take awhile to show up, but it WILL come). enjoy the change-up in training for awhile and then attack the sub-3 in the fall.

From flatlander on Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 16:16:45 from 76.31.26.153

That's a really good story and you definitely should stick to it. You just ran your last marathon with a 3 in front of it, wouldn't be surprised to see you under 2:50 very soon, if not the next race. Anything over 60F, humidity is the deciding factor, and you had a lot of humidity with the rain coming in. It was hot in a way that dry-climate runners don't experience very often.

From Dan on Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 16:51:38 from 24.209.83.20

Heck of a race Joe, you had some nice mental toughness to not just pack it and go into survival mode. humidity and above 60 are draining for sure! So congrats on a strong race!

From Steam8 on Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 17:07:42 from 166.70.55.77

Congrats to you! Loved the report. Sounded like a rough marathon. It is hard when training for something has stopped. I'd find something for the summer just to keep you motivated!

Great run. Take some time to heal up. You are super speedy FastJoe. I'll give you the advice I gave Preston....Come to Utah and run. The marathons are downhill and cool. You'll get a sub 3 for sure!

From Neil on Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 17:11:14 from 97.121.40.61

Great effort today! Really respect how you didnt back away from your goal and just laid your cards on the table. Very inspiring to see how much progress you've made just in the last year. I agree with everyone else, you're right on the verge of having a HUGE breakthrough. Looking forward to seeing what you can do in the fall with some better weather conditions.

From SlowJoe on Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 17:23:19 from 69.131.141.92

allie - thanks a lot, I really appreciate your encouragement and experienced point of view.

flat - thanks - anyone that runs in Houston is a humidity expert, so I will take that to the bank.

Dan - like I said, it was definitely back-and-forth a lot but I am happy with the way I ultimately kept pressing. Thanks!

S8 - thanks, I will definitely get to Utah eventually for a race, if for no other reason than to meet y'all!

Neil - I can definitely say I didn't wuss out there at the beginning, but maybe just a little more wussiness was called for! thanks!

From Neil on Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 17:40:05 from 97.121.40.61

Forgot to add that I think you're qualifying time is solid for Boston. I read on the BAA Twitter feed that very few people actually took advantage of the deferment option. Couple that with the fact that so few actually re-qualified for next years race, the tougher standards for 2013 and I think the field will be much less competitive than 2012 was so long as you meet the standard. My 2 cents.

From Rye on Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 19:09:37 from 174.27.118.17

Joe... Great report and another solid race. I am going to echo Steam8 on the races here in the Rockies.....you would love the temps and elevation drop..... put it on the calendar:)

From Daniel Brunson on Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 21:23:57 from 68.14.171.105

You are a champ Joe. You delivered a solid performance as expected, and your report was very enjoyable to read. I'm proud to know you as a fellow blogger.

Since I'm already registered for the Route 66, perhaps we will meet if you decide on Tulsa in November.

From DaleG on Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 23:07:06 from 71.199.57.238

Wow, I think you did great considering the course. I like your plan for the fall. Perhaps you should go with the November marathon, maybe the cooler temps will help.

From seeaprilrun on Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 01:26:19 from 205.172.12.229

I have to agree that this was a stronger performance. The course and conditions were tough, and your pace in the beginning was perfect on any other day. You were able to work through a rough patch and stay strong, which shows a lot of real finesse and fitness. You ARE in sub-3 shape, and you would have killed it on a flat course in good conditions.

From JG on Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 08:38:48 from 71.57.246.108

Awesome race Joe in tough conditions, kudos for staying so strong mentally! It is tough to stay strong when your ultimate goal is slipping away, but to run a sub 3:03 in those conditions is spectacular! I would say your Houston time has you a 99.9% chance of getting into Boston, no worries!

From Jake K on Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 10:10:40 from 155.100.226.54

Great run Joe - I'm glad that you are considering this a success... its really hard to race in that kind of heat/humidity. You did awesome - congrats! Sub 3 this fall, no doubt!

From Dave S on Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 10:37:05 from 69.170.115.216

Great race! That was definitely worth sub 3 in good conditions. Way to hang tough after feeling so poorly with 16 to go. You still finish out with a great time and a successful race!

From I Just Run on Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 12:43:42 from 67.79.11.242

Hey Joe,

It was good to finally meet you. It seems we were already good friends even though we hadn't met face to face. Congradulations on a very good race! I think you held it together very well. I think it's just another step forward to your 3:00 goal.

How did Danielle do? Sorry I missed you guys at the end.

BTW...Your wife is very sweet...I like her :-)

From Andrea on Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 14:04:11 from 72.37.171.52

Great job, Joe! Strong performance for sure, especially with non-ideal temperatures. Might have started out a little fast, but you were able to maintain a pretty good pace throughout. You should definitely see it as a success!

From SlowJoe on Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 17:20:34 from 69.131.141.92

Neil - makes sense, you're probably right about Boston, thanks for the reassurance.

Rye - but then what would I have to complain about??

Daniel - thanks, I appreciate it. If not Tulsa, I'm sure we'll cross paths in some OK race (because apparently there are none in Lawton).

DG - that is a big consideration, believe me. Wouldn't it be nice not to sweat the weather forecasts so much...

April - thanks. When I started struggling I actually thought about you killing it in St. George when it was 80 degrees and then I felt like a wimp. Thanks a lot! I think I just need another brutal hot summer of torture to get conditioned again.

JG - appreciate it - I owe it all to fear of embarrassment!

Jake - feels silly to complain about upper 60s after what you guys had in Boston, but thanks!

Dave - thanks for the encouragement. I guess I'll never know what would've happened but it's nice to hear others say what I am hoping is the case too.

IJr - great to meet you and the family too. Danielle did not have her best race either...just one of those days. I will definitely tell her you said that!

Andrea - thanks! Yeah, 1 step back but two steps forward maybe. that made no sense. But you know what I mean, definitely pulling some positives from it.

From Kelli on Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 18:41:30 from 71.219.98.16

I think we can all relate to a slower time that we felt better about! It is good we are all runners and understand!

You are so going to get sub-3, I never watched anyone so ready (aside from April, and she did it!) Looking forward to that day almost as much as you.

Great job on the race!

From baldnspicy on Tue, May 01, 2012 at 14:26:42 from 167.164.3.140

Not much more to say that hasn't already been said. Great job, Joe! You'll rock the sub-3 next time!

From TexasLindsey on Tue, May 01, 2012 at 20:03:08 from 70.253.128.48

Great Race Report!! You're on the cusp of serious PR! What do you think about this race as a possible:

http://www.panhandlemarathon.com/

$60 full marathon in Lubbock on Sept 23..

It's Lubbock so it'll be flat. 58F average low for that time of year.

It's so hard to find a good race for summer training. The northern marathons are high altitude and have hills... Lubbock could be good...

From SlowJoe on Thu, May 03, 2012 at 18:06:33 from 69.131.141.92

Kelli - thank, funny that you had the same kind of race as well, although yours sounded way tougher!

BnS - thanks man, good luck in your training.

TL - I got an email about that one, but I feel like it'll probably be really hot, especially if we get another summer like 2011. Definitely agree it's hard to find a Fall marathon down here. I'm guessing you're looking for something earlier than white rock...

From Kelli on Thu, May 03, 2012 at 18:38:31 from 71.219.98.16

I am just good at making things sound tough. ;o)

From Burt on Fri, May 04, 2012 at 19:36:46 from 72.223.82.180

Great job Joe. Can't wait to see your next marathon over 4 hours. What? You said there won't be a 3 in front of it, and everybody just assumes that means sub 3.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
3.000.003.00

87F, SSE 22-30 mph.  8:38 AP.  Wasn't going to run until tomorrow, but the soreness was basically gone, so why not?  Felt terrible once I started of course.

Anyway, I think this is going to be a much easier recovery than Houston from the feel of it.  Probably evidence of underperforming, or maybe a more favorable asphault-to-concrete ratio at OKC.

I signed up for a 5K on the 12th.  Our little town of 2,000 is having one, so I can't miss it.  I'll be slow, I'm sure, but I'm guessing this is the only race all year that is actually in Elgin.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 3.00
Weight: 0.00
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From Steam8 on Wed, May 02, 2012 at 19:49:09 from 166.70.55.77

Soreness gone? I am hobbling around for a week! ha! It must be my age....I hope! I bet you will be #1 at your 5K. That would be a fun!

From flatlander on Wed, May 02, 2012 at 20:17:39 from 76.31.26.153

You will be back at full strength by the 12th. When you finish you will think you got lost because there won't be any runners around.

From derhammer on Thu, May 03, 2012 at 07:57:40 from 70.113.125.159

Something tells me that you will win the 5k.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
0.000.000.00

No run, just wanted to post a couple pictures.  Mine are always terrible, which I love, and this was no exception.

 

Sometime in the first half:

 

Around mile 15 - at least I was still running the tangents correctly!

 

Best picture ever - I didn't even notice that guy during the race, was just trying to get a clear path to the finish line among the half-marathoners.  Wish I looked half as happy as he does!

Weight: 0.00
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From Andrea on Thu, May 03, 2012 at 18:54:01 from 67.182.215.126

Too bad they didn't have a separate finish area for the marathoners! Good photos, although these pictures make you look different than your profile picture...weird!

From SlowJoe on Thu, May 03, 2012 at 19:06:02 from 69.131.141.92

I always look like I'm being tortured. No one on the blog would recognize me in real life unless they punched me in the stomach first.

From ACorn on Thu, May 03, 2012 at 21:03:10 from 24.2.76.146

Nice pics!

From flatlander on Fri, May 04, 2012 at 07:16:53 from 76.31.26.153

Nice pics. Looks like you got beat by that large guy in black? (Just kidding, amazing that the marathoners have to finish with the back of the pack half marathoners. Or did they start earlier?)

From I Just Run on Fri, May 04, 2012 at 08:54:44 from 67.79.11.242

For a minute I wasn't sure which one was you :-)

From DaleG on Fri, May 04, 2012 at 10:01:26 from 71.199.57.238

Cool pics. Hey, at least you beat that guy across the line.

From SlowJoe on Sat, May 05, 2012 at 07:09:12 from 74.197.86.254

Flat - no, the races start together. We run the same course for miles 1-7, and then the marathon course joins with the half course again for the last 5 miles. They were mostly all walking for the last 5 miles, making it somwehat easier to find gaps, but they all ran that last 0.1!

From Daniel Brunson on Sat, May 05, 2012 at 08:04:50 from 68.14.171.105

Awesome pics! I did not enjoy rejoining the crowd of half marathoners in my marathon. You're killing me with the comment on being tortured. I'll remember the stomach punch trick if I see you at a race and I'm not sure it's actually you...LOL.

From Burt on Sat, May 05, 2012 at 09:37:30 from 72.223.82.180

You look like an alien in that first picture. No, you look like Sigourney Weaver.

From SlowJoe on Sat, May 05, 2012 at 10:53:29 from 74.197.86.254

Daniel - works every time

Burt - Sigourney Weaver now, or Sigourney Weaver 1988? Please say 1988...

From Burt on Sat, May 05, 2012 at 11:02:38 from 72.223.82.180

Oh, definitely post-cosmetic surgery:

http://www.dollymix.tv/alien3.jpg

From Burt on Sat, May 05, 2012 at 11:04:25 from 72.223.82.180

I mean pre. That's what I mean. ;)

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.000.005.00

72F, 85%.  5 easy this morning, 8:38/mile.  I'm now in Abilene for the weekend.  The high tomorrow is a nice, even 100F.  Triple digits already??

1150s Red #2 Miles: 5.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Dan on Fri, May 04, 2012 at 21:02:38 from 24.209.83.20

Yikes on the heat... Sweet pics Joe, liked that!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
7.100.007.10

73F, 84%, S 17-30 mph in Abilene, on its way to a high of 101F today....yuck.  8:03 AP on the run - it felt pretty good.  Legs are fine, just felt unnecessarily out of breath.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 7.10
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Dan on Sat, May 05, 2012 at 21:31:18 from 24.209.83.20

Out of breath... well you did just run a marathon less than a week ago :) 101, wait till it gets hot.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
9.050.009.05

74F, S 17-29 mph.  7:38 AP.  This recovery is definitely much easier than Houston.  I might even be able to eke out a sub-19 next weekend.

Fastwich Miles: 9.05
Weight: 0.00
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From I Just Run on Mon, May 07, 2012 at 09:03:37 from 67.79.11.242

Sounds good for you Joe...I'm not fairing as well on the recovery :-(

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
7.070.007.07

58F, N 12 mph.  7:26 AP.  I finally caught my breath somewhere in mile 4 and had some quicker miles on the way back home.  Still feel a little awkward and out of shape but pretty good for 9 days post-marathon.

Kinvaras Miles: 7.07
Weight: 0.00
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From Neil on Tue, May 08, 2012 at 10:44:23 from 164.165.24.5

It's so weird how running a marathon tears you down so much, only to build you up later. Kinda like basic training I imagine? But probably not as fun?

From I Just Run on Tue, May 08, 2012 at 12:46:43 from 67.79.11.242

I'm kinda in limbo-land right now wondering what I should be doing. When I ran of Sunday I felt great for 2 miles, then it seemed really hard. Yesterday, even running really slow, was an effort.

From allie on Tue, May 08, 2012 at 15:11:55 from 161.38.218.168

yeah, no worries. you get a whole month of excuses after a marathon, so you are doing great just nine days out.

From JG on Tue, May 08, 2012 at 19:02:07 from 71.57.246.108

Sweet run 9 days out Joe!

From Dan on Tue, May 08, 2012 at 21:50:02 from 24.209.83.20

Nice job Joe

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
10.080.0010.08

49F, calm, clear.  What an awesome morning.  7:02 AP - obviously way too fast for a marathon recovery week but it felt amazing and effortless, just floating along in the cool air. 

It's too bad I crumble so easily with the slightest bit of heat...where was this weather 10 days ago??  Ah well, I will enjoy it while it lasts; maybe this summer won't be as bad as last year.

*just signed up for the Houston HALF marathon, not the full this year.  8 months before the race - early registration is open for both events, for anyone interested....

Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 10.08
Weight: 0.00
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From Jake K on Wed, May 09, 2012 at 08:35:25 from 155.100.226.54

That's how it goes - after a hot marathon, the weather is always perfect a few days later :-)

From I Just Run on Wed, May 09, 2012 at 08:44:38 from 67.79.11.242

Wow..good run! I was thinking about running Houston this year but I'm still trying to figure out if I can squeek in a BQ marathon before the 2013 deadline.

From derhammer on Thu, May 10, 2012 at 09:00:13 from 64.245.52.2

hmmm - that might be a great half to run. How much was registration?

Summer won't be as bad - ha.

From SlowJoe on Thu, May 10, 2012 at 15:40:40 from 69.131.141.92

IJR/dh - the early registration is only open this month; after that you have to do the lottery if you decide to run it. It was $105 for the half. IJR - the reason I only signed up for the half was because of Boston 2013, which you WILL be attending too!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.000.005.00

52F, calm and clear again.  If only we could bottle this weather up and use it this summer.  Looks like the window will be closing soon...   8:18 AP.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 5.00
Weight: 0.00
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From flatlander on Thu, May 10, 2012 at 06:52:32 from 76.31.26.153

Our weather is pretty cool as well, though still 10-15 degrees higher than yours. You are looking very good at any temperature, though. Is your 5K this weekend or next?

From I Just Run on Thu, May 10, 2012 at 13:27:31 from 67.79.11.242

It was 63 here (still good) so I ran 20 :-)

From SlowJoe on Thu, May 10, 2012 at 15:53:56 from 69.131.141.92

Flat - 5k is this weekend. think I found a 10k for the next one...

IJR - 20 miles already?!

From I Just Run on Thu, May 10, 2012 at 15:56:18 from 67.79.11.242

18 miles were okay...the last two were torture...like the switch just turned off!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.750.309.05

61F, heavy rain.  7:26 AP.  Not so bad once I got used to the shirt-glued-to-your-torso feeling.  I wanted to spend a few minutes at 5k pace on the way home today, but after my second 1-minute repeat I was in severe, severe distress.  Severe.  So I slowed to butt-clenching speed for the last couple miles.  Butt-clenching pace is down to 7:45 or so; it used to be 8:00.  Obviously, I'm really starting to see the results of all my hard work.

Fastwich Miles: 9.05
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Fri, May 11, 2012 at 08:41:13 from 67.79.11.242

Sounds like you were in SEVERE distress. Good to see the .30 fast miles though! Have a great weekend!

From Dan on Fri, May 11, 2012 at 09:53:44 from 24.209.83.20

I wonder if you could sell that shirt glue...

From rAtTLeTrAp on Fri, May 11, 2012 at 09:57:16 from 98.247.27.122

It's tough to clench anything in the 7's. Nice work :)

From flatlander on Sat, May 12, 2012 at 05:37:11 from 76.31.26.153

Yet another running metric. HR zones are so last week.

From SlowJoe on Sat, May 12, 2012 at 14:59:41 from 69.131.141.92

IJR - severe.

Dan - I could make a killing if I could invent a shirt that doesn't stick to you when it rains.

RT - I owe it all to butt-clenching repeats

Flat - seriously, where have you been? It's all in the new book, Born with the Runs.

Race: Elgin 5K (3.23 Miles) 00:19:44, Place overall: 3, Place in age division: 1
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
4.003.237.23

61F, NE 14-18 mph.  I ran our little town's local 5K(ish) race today.  Got schooled by a couple high school kids on the xc team and ran pretty mediocre myself, but ok for 13 days post-marathon.

5:58 - tailwind

6:05

6:19 - headwind

1:22 for 0.23 miles (5:52 pace)

All in all, AP was 6:06, so more like a 19-flat on a correct-distance course.  The headwind mile killed me.  I have a long way to go before I'll get close to sub-18.  Slogging through the summer at 8-min pace isn't going to make it happen for me this year (unlike last year), I will have to spend a lot more time at 3k-5k pace this summer.  My speed/VO2 max has deteriorated to nothing!  There's a 10K pretty close by next weekend; I think I will run it too.  Gotta quit being such a speed wimp...

Saucony A5 Miles: 7.23
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Kelli on Sat, May 12, 2012 at 10:21:15 from 71.219.98.16

SWEET 5k!!! I was looking at your mile paces and then your overall and I was confused there for a minute! That was quite a bit long for a 5k, I am pretty sure you would have been under 19.

Way to school the high school kids---just tell them how fast your age graded race would have been! Right?? We have to use our age for something!

From Dan on Sat, May 12, 2012 at 10:44:02 from 24.209.83.20

Joe I run a 5K every 4th of July where the XC teams are at. They smoke me, but I always place in my age so they think Im so fast old guy. I think it was a pretty solid 5 considering a LONG course and how close you were to your marathon.

From Jake K on Sat, May 12, 2012 at 15:00:14 from 67.182.215.126

Ahhh long 5Ks are the worst! In this day and age, is it really that hard to measure 3.1 miles? :-)

Good effort for less than 2 weeks after the marathon. It takes some time to re-train the brain especially to push it hard like you have to do in 5Ks and 10Ks. Some pace work and jumping into a bunch of shorter races will definitely give you some big improvements in that area.

From Kelli on Sat, May 12, 2012 at 15:05:24 from 71.219.98.16

MAYBE he made a wrong turn and added on???

From SlowJoe on Sat, May 12, 2012 at 15:13:17 from 69.131.141.92

Kelli - The HS boys beat me, but I crushed this 12-year old girl though....IN YOUR FACE, 12-year old!

Dan - I guess I am twice their age...wow that sucks. When did that happen?!

Jake - I think some brain re-training is definitely required; I've been in coast-mode all year

From Andrea on Sat, May 12, 2012 at 15:35:34 from 67.182.215.126

Two weeks after your marathon, I wouldn't expect the legs to be able to fire for a 5k yet. Given that, this was a great effort!

From Neil on Sat, May 12, 2012 at 16:39:46 from 97.121.40.61

Solid effort so close to your Mary. FWIW, I haven't finished a 5k in almost 3 yrs. The last one I did was in my mid August and the course was at least .2 miles long. It sucked 100x worse than any marathon, just didn't last as long.

From allie on Sat, May 12, 2012 at 17:40:07 from 97.126.217.165

nice job, joe. you ran very well -- sorry for the long course though. the 5k torture should never be extended.

we should jump in a race and try to push (kill) each other to a sub-18.

From Rye on Sat, May 12, 2012 at 17:40:45 from 174.27.116.87

Nice Joe.... leave it to some kids with fast twitch muscle fibers...... I'd be happy with a sub 20 but I'm not you speedy.

From flatlander on Sat, May 12, 2012 at 20:52:51 from 76.31.26.153

Joe, great job as usual, especially so close to a marathon.

From SlowJoe on Sun, May 13, 2012 at 12:55:59 from 69.131.141.92

Andrea - thanks, hoping it is more the marathon, and less that I'm just that behind in speed.

Neil - Didn't 5K's used to be fun? They are pure pain from the first mile now...

allie - good idea, I'm going to need lots of help. Lots of help.

Rye - I closed quite a bit to the second place kid, but when I couldn't catch him by the final quarter-mile, I knew he'd be gone. I have no kick!

Flat - thanks - allie said I have a month's worth of excuses after a marathon so I need to race a lot right now before I can switch to using the summer heat as an excuse.

From derhammer on Sun, May 13, 2012 at 20:47:26 from 70.113.125.159

SJ - good job man. The good news is that you know what you need to do to increase the speed! Too bad you don't live in Austin, ;-)

From baldnspicy on Mon, May 14, 2012 at 22:36:28 from 141.0.10.170

Way to go, Joe. Proud of ya and the great effort! You're my hero for not letting that little girl take you. Watch out for her next year, though. Girls/women hold grudges for years...decades even.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
14.070.0014.07

56F.  7:35 AP.  Felt kind of tired today, but I have a full day off tomorrow.

Kinvaras Miles: 14.07
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From flatlander on Sun, May 13, 2012 at 09:34:56 from 76.31.26.153

56F? Good pace no matter the temperature, a day off is definitely in order.

From Dan on Sun, May 13, 2012 at 17:24:19 from 24.209.83.20

A full day off is almost (not quite) like a holiday. Don't get weird-ed out Joe, but I saw this coffee mug at Cafe Press, and thought of you. http://www.cafepress.com/+i_pooped_today_large_mug,230819520

From SlowJoe on Sun, May 13, 2012 at 19:03:55 from 69.131.141.92

Flat - yeah, there are definitely benefits to living a few hours north. We should get a few more lows in the 50s this coming week, then into the 60s.

Dan - almost perfect (the caption is good), but the guy on the mug should be running out of the bushes with an embarrassed look on his face.

From I Just Run on Mon, May 14, 2012 at 09:11:03 from 67.79.11.242

56 is just one degree from perfect! Take a day off, it will give me another day to celebrate being ahead of you on the milage board for once :-) Just kidding!!!

I need to get one of those coffee mugs for my wife :-)

From allie on Mon, May 14, 2012 at 17:41:14 from 71.213.50.84

i don't think i could ever actually drink out of that mug.

hope you are enjoying your day off.

From Dan on Mon, May 14, 2012 at 18:23:20 from 24.209.83.20

Allie, we know what to get you Christmas now....

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.070.008.07

55F.  7:42 AP.  Really refreshing run on another cool, perfect morning.

Tempo run tomorrow.  Probably somewhere between HMP and MP; I don't think I'm ready for much faster quite yet, although I am signed up for a 10K this weekend.  Time to cram some speed down my throat.

Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 8.07
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From allie on Tue, May 15, 2012 at 06:42:08 from 71.213.50.84

10k? you are brave, but i'm sure you will do well.

nice run this morning -- it does sound perfect.

From Jake K on Tue, May 15, 2012 at 09:11:16 from 155.100.226.54

Shoot for MP, then drop it down only if you are feeling really good. Your body is still in the marathon recovery mode even if you feel like you are 100%. Better to not beat yourself into the ground :-)

From Rye on Tue, May 15, 2012 at 16:53:50 from 174.27.116.87

You are a racing fool! You need to find a hobby..... Wait I guess running is

From Dan on Tue, May 15, 2012 at 18:35:03 from 24.209.83.20

Nice Joe, your racing is going to pay off. Have a speed goal for the 10k

From SlowJoe on Tue, May 15, 2012 at 18:52:53 from 69.131.141.92

allie - 10k is my most hated of all k's.

Jake - sounds like a good plan, was thinking closer to a tinman tempo pace. plenty of time to beat myself into the ground later.

Rye - Can't do much skiing on the Oklahoma slopes so I guess it's running for now.

Dan - Based on the predicted hot and windy weather and the marathon stink still on my legs, I will be happy with sub 40, or something close to it.

From Dan on Tue, May 15, 2012 at 18:53:56 from 24.209.83.20

Joe...I'm a huge College Football fan... BUT... Stop being part of the problem, use the mug...

From SlowJoe on Tue, May 15, 2012 at 19:07:55 from 69.131.141.92

I will, I will!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.115.0013.11

58F.  7:14 AP.  Today was 8 easy, followed by 5 tempo.  Per Jake's suggestion, I started out at MP.  That felt fine, so I dropped it ever so slightly to TT pace for the last half of the tempo (tinman has a calculator now, woohoo).  The 5 fast miles were 6:45, 6:44, 6:41, 6:34, 6:35.  Cooled down to my mailbox and finished with exactly a half marathon distance on the watch.

I was glad I took it easy for this first post-marathon tempo; I definitely finished with some gas left in the tank, which is good with the dreaded 10K looming.

Fastwich Miles: 13.11
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Rye on Wed, May 16, 2012 at 07:23:31 from 75.174.55.82

Since you have moved out of Texas, do you still own that @##$^ orange shirt? Nice run!

From I Just Run on Wed, May 16, 2012 at 09:08:58 from 67.79.11.242

Rye....are you trying to start a fight???

From SlowJoe on Wed, May 16, 2012 at 09:15:23 from 155.219.241.10

OKC marathon - orange shirt

Elgin 5K - orange shirt

10K this weekend - orange shirt

From Jake K on Wed, May 16, 2012 at 09:46:22 from 155.100.226.54

Nice workout - I think you did that perfectly. Post-marathon, the body needs a little time to start running faster than marathon pace again. Gotta ease into it w/out completely shocking the system.

From Andrea on Wed, May 16, 2012 at 10:10:19 from 72.37.171.52

Great negative splits on the workout. The progression is the way to go!

From Dan on Wed, May 16, 2012 at 20:21:59 from 24.209.83.20

Joe... I have some orange shoes... just saying... Nice workout Joe

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.050.006.05

58F.  I think this morning was the last time the temperature will dip below 60 again until this fall.  R.I.P. 50s, see you in September (I hope).  8:24 AP.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.05
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Thu, May 17, 2012 at 08:43:49 from 67.79.11.242

You're such a pessimist...Just kidding :-) What's the humidity like, in the mornings, up there in Thunder country?

From SlowJoe on Thu, May 17, 2012 at 15:41:44 from 69.131.141.92

let's see...the last few mornings it's been 85-90%. It's more humid here than Abilene, but not too bad for the most part.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.000.008.00

62F.  7:29 AP.  Kept it a shorter effort today, hoping to be somewhat fresh for the 10K tomorrow.  It's going to be 70 degrees with 20+ mph wind.  Don't care too much, I am really just running it to get a good hard effort in anyway.  I was definitely never expecting to run the sub-38 McMillan thinks I can do.  Actually if I even run a sub-40, I'd be pretty surprised.

Oh, and I pooped in the bushes again today.  Did not even make it 2 miles.

*Here's an update from the 10K facebook page, from the RD, that makes me a little nervous:

"You know that feeling you get when you finish something really hard, and you know you pushed yourself to your absolute limits? You can have that feeling this Saturday no matter what your limits are. 1 Mile, 3.2 Miles or even 6.4 miles"

Kinvara 1 - Blk/orange Miles: 8.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Rye on Fri, May 18, 2012 at 06:44:48 from 174.27.116.87

Last time that happened to me I found an old check register.....it worked great! Hope you were as fortunate:)

From JG on Fri, May 18, 2012 at 06:45:16 from 71.57.246.108

Nice run Joe ... good luck tomorrow! I love 10k's ... after I have finished! :)

From I Just Run on Fri, May 18, 2012 at 07:40:26 from 67.79.11.242

Do good tomorrow...and pleaseeeee don't find a bush during the race!

From Neil on Fri, May 18, 2012 at 09:36:21 from 164.165.24.5

Well done. Good luck tomorrow! I'm sure you'll do better than you anticipate. I PRed in a 10k last year only 2 weeks post-marathon. Pro Tip: Remember that spot for future reference and maybe leave some TP in a ziploc buried near the base of the bush/tree.

From Jake K on Fri, May 18, 2012 at 19:38:19 from 67.182.215.126

I would not be happy with a 6.4 mile 10K!!! Ahhhhhhh

From rAtTLeTrAp on Fri, May 18, 2012 at 19:45:32 from 98.247.27.122

Are you sure the RD isn't talking about the bushes instead of the race?

From Dan on Fri, May 18, 2012 at 20:42:27 from 24.209.83.20

Well done Joe! And good running too... Have fun tomorrow and enjoy the sub 40 ;)

From DaleG on Sat, May 19, 2012 at 01:12:39 from 71.199.57.238

Good luck, Joe.

As for the race director, I think he/she needs to brush up on race distances.

From SlowJoe on Sat, May 19, 2012 at 12:00:34 from 69.131.141.92

Rye - I always pack a couple folded up paper towels now, ever since one of my cotton gloves had an untimely demise last winter.

JG - I know the feeling.

IJR - thankfully they had real bathrooms and I took care of business beforehand (a couple times)

Neil - good tip, although I like to spread the wealth and not return to the scene of the crime..

Jake - thankfully, it measured out correctly...that would've sucked.

RT - HA! Still laughing about your comment. It's amazing the results you can get if you just "push."

Dan - thanks, it was fun in a torturous kind of way. And by fun I mean miserable.

DG - yeah, or at least a calculator.

Race: Chickasha 10K (6.21 Miles) 00:40:41, Place overall: 3, Place in age division: 1
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
2.506.238.73

73F, S 16-21 mph.  sunny.  really sunny.

I drove up to Chickaska (about 30 min) to do this 10k.  Once again this distance plagues me.  On top of the heat and wind, it was pretty hilly.  The good news is there was a 5k and 10k and they were paying actual money for 1st-3rd.  I knew that would draw some fast people from OKC, but was hoping they'd be spread out over both races and maybe I could sneak in and grab some cash.  Sure enough, both winners of the OKC marathon this year showed up, Jacob Buhler and Camille Herron.  So at the starting line I was looking around and other than Jacob there was one other guy with shorty shorts who looked fast.  So I figured it would be a battle for 3rd to get that last $50.

The 2 fast guys took off and ended up running 32 and 33 for the race.  They disappeared pretty soon and it was me and gray shirt for the first mile.  He sounded like he was breathing hard already so I passed him but he stuck close by.  I started feeling really hot and drained already by mile 2.  At the halfway point he was still there, and I was sure I was being used as his rabbit, but he slowly faded (worse than me) and I ran the second half of the race alone.  Could not even manage half-marathon pace out there; it just felt like I was shuffling along, and I just kinda slogged it in unceremoniously.

I invented a new kind of run today.  You've heard of the progressive run, this was a "regressive run."  I'm sure it will catch on everywhere pretty soon.

6:15, 6:28, 6:34, 6:36, 6:41, 6:35, 1:32 for 0.23.

But, of course I got my 50 bucks - the first time I have won actual money in a race.  Past prizes I've received have included a jar of gumballs and a PetSmart coffee mug.  So it was all worth it!

Saucony A5 Miles: 8.73
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Burt on Sat, May 19, 2012 at 15:22:53 from 72.223.82.180

Regressive run...sounds pretty good. If it will get me $50, I'll try it.

From SlowJoe'sGrl on Sat, May 19, 2012 at 15:49:07 from 74.196.65.103

You have also won a massage and academy gift cards. I can see how you may have forgotten the gift cards as I spent them pretty quickly on things for myself. A supportive wife deserves some awards, too!

From SlowJoe on Sat, May 19, 2012 at 15:56:20 from 69.131.141.92

Burt - try it. 60% of the time, it works every time.

SJG - hey, what a blast from the past! Sorry I already spent the money this time.

From Dan on Sat, May 19, 2012 at 15:56:49 from 24.209.83.20

Oh sure, the guy who is part of the problem now gets a payday ;)

Just kidding, nice job Joe- that was a tough test so soon after the marathon!

From Rye on Sat, May 19, 2012 at 16:53:04 from 174.27.116.87

You realize that once you accept money that you are what we call a professional! It's been nice knowing ya.

From Jake K on Sat, May 19, 2012 at 16:58:14 from 67.182.215.126

you have to change your name to PROjoe now that you've won some prize money! congrats!

From Neil on Sat, May 19, 2012 at 17:06:10 from 97.121.40.61

Nice effort. The fact that you consider 6:30 pace "shuffling along" is a testament to how big time you've become.;)

PS- as your unofficial legal counsel I must advise you that the IRS routinely monitors these local 10k events. Proceed accordingly.

From DaleG on Sun, May 20, 2012 at 00:01:54 from 71.199.57.238

Neil, you're right...I work for the IRS.

Nice job, Joe. By the way, I am the king of regressive runs.

From SlowJoe on Sun, May 20, 2012 at 09:05:42 from 69.131.141.92

Dan - thanks...I'm rich!

Rye - Rye who? Do I know you?

Jake - yep, I'm quitting my job on Monday now that I have this new source of income.

Neil - Thanks for the free legal advice! I guess "shuffling" was not the right choice of words; still fast, just nowhere near 10k pace.

DG - ah, so you already have the patent. Do I get to deduct the cost of entry, the gas to get there, tolls on the turnpike, mileage, etc? In that case, I think my profit was about 25 cents. I'll send you a check.

From allie on Sun, May 20, 2012 at 11:06:35 from 174.23.154.194

congrats. you are officially a professional runner now, but unfortunately that means you are no longer eligible to compete in the NCAA.

nice job -- even with the regression, your splits look fine to me. 10ks are evil!

From SlowJoe on Sun, May 20, 2012 at 11:55:35 from 69.131.141.92

allie - I know, I had to call up a bunch of NCAA track coaches yesterday to tell them I could not accept a scholarship offer to run at their schools. Then they asked me who I was, and it got more confusing from there.

From Bec on Sun, May 20, 2012 at 18:44:25 from 68.206.133.141

Great race! I don't think you are too slow looking at your times. Congrats on the dough.

From Kelli on Tue, May 22, 2012 at 14:11:36 from 71.219.97.214

YOU WON MONEY!!!! That is my dream, I do not even care if it is just $10! Nicely done.

I am a big fan of the regressive run.

From SlowJoe on Tue, May 22, 2012 at 18:27:40 from 69.131.141.92

Bec - thanks - the reverse psychology of the name is what works on me

Kelli - you should've come down to to Oklahoma (although I know you had MUCH better things to do). A 50-something 10k won money in the women's division.

From Kelli on Tue, May 22, 2012 at 20:48:38 from 71.219.97.214

WHAT???? Dang, I ran the wrong race.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
16.000.0016.00

63F, calm, then E 20 mph, then calm again.  T-storms/rain.  I ran into the wind when it was strong, then it died down before it was time to turn around and go home.  At least the rain cooled everything off.  Something that would have been helpful YESTERDAY, but I guess that's ok because the weak effort on the 10k left my legs fresh today.  7:31 AP.

I think I will take it easy until Friday, then hit the track and start doing 2 workouts/week next week -- 1 tempo and 1 speed.

Kinvaras Miles: 16.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Bec on Sun, May 20, 2012 at 18:26:18 from 68.206.133.141

Nice long run Joe. Great AP for the 16 miles. Track work is so beneficial, I should probably look into it more.

From Dan on Sun, May 20, 2012 at 21:09:47 from 24.209.83.20

Great pace for a long run and right after that 10k. You should be happy about that.

From I Just Run on Mon, May 21, 2012 at 08:13:10 from 67.79.11.242

Nice milage for the start of the week! Send some rain down here....please!!!

From Bonnie on Mon, May 21, 2012 at 15:23:21 from 128.196.228.134

Sounds like a great plan, Joe!

From Rye on Mon, May 21, 2012 at 17:48:00 from 174.27.116.87

Hey joe... this is rye... remember me?? 16 miles after a nice 10k race....you are awesome.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
10.000.0010.00

64F.  7:45 AP.  I woke up, I ran, the end.

Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 10.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Tue, May 22, 2012 at 09:12:13 from 67.79.11.242

Sometimes that's all that needs to be said :-)

From derhammer on Tue, May 22, 2012 at 10:17:27 from 64.245.52.2

Wow - I thought I was terse with my comments - this one takes the cake. :-)

From I Just Run on Tue, May 22, 2012 at 11:17:50 from 67.79.11.242

That's an Okie for you...

From Rye on Tue, May 22, 2012 at 14:55:36 from 174.27.116.87

Gosh, I need to come up with Okie jokes... seems like the Texan jokes ....never mind...

From SlowJoe on Tue, May 22, 2012 at 18:45:03 from 69.131.141.92

Lou Gossett said ony 2 things come out of Oklahoma...

From Dan on Tue, May 22, 2012 at 21:04:52 from 24.209.83.20

You had me with the cliff hanger...but then said the end.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
10.060.0010.06

70F, S 20 mph.  7:39 AP.  Sorry, I still can't think of anything interesting to say.  These filler runs are just not exciting.  So instead, here is a picture of a cat.

Fastwich Miles: 10.06
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Wed, May 23, 2012 at 07:57:52 from 67.79.11.242

If you like cats you will like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTTwcCVajAc

From Neil on Wed, May 23, 2012 at 09:44:06 from 164.165.24.5

For some reason this pic makes me think of the film adaptation of "The Island of Dr. Moreau."

From flatlander on Wed, May 23, 2012 at 20:53:08 from 76.31.26.153

At least it's not a black cat. One of them runs in front of me every other morning, so I am saving up that excuse for just the right occasion.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.140.006.14

73F, S 17-23 mph.  8:27 AP.  Off to Abilene later today to move the family up to Oklahoma once and for all, since the last day of school is today.  Fortunately we have packers and movers so hopefully it's not too painful.

Tomorrow (in Abilene) I will hit the track in some unfavorable heat and wind, but I will get it done, even if the paces suck.  I think I should be recovered from the marathon by now, so it's time to start working on speed for awhile.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 6.14
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Thu, May 24, 2012 at 08:04:15 from 67.79.11.242

WoooHooo, I bet you're gald to get the family moved! Hope the move goes smooth and have fun with the speed work. I'm still willing to trade some fast stuff for some long runs :-)

From derhammer on Thu, May 24, 2012 at 11:39:51 from 64.245.52.2

Good luck with the move! As a friendly reminder, it's ok to back off the mileage when starting to work on speed. :-)

From Dan on Thu, May 24, 2012 at 19:49:33 from 24.209.83.20

Have fun moving, I would help but I only carry pillows.... No books...

Run my feel on that speedwork, not a time frame.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
7.813.5011.31

73F, S 18-25 mph.  Well, despite some heat and a nasty wind, I decided to hit the track anyway and just slug through some intervals.  The track at ACU is oriented north/south so the wind hurts; the headwind straightaway felt like I was literally going half as fast as the tailwind. I did 6 x 800, 400m recovery.

?:??, 3:17, 3:16, 3:14, 3:01, 3:01.

Recovery paces were 8:15-8:30

I decided just to go by feel and not strain too much.  The first one I hit the wrong button.  The second one I could not believe how slow it was.  I thought at first I ran the wrong distance or something but with an 800 (2 full laps) it's kind of hard to mess that up.  Sure enough the third one was just as bad.  I mean, wow, I was still kinda running hard -- how was I not even at HM pace?  Who does 800s at slower than HM pace?  Finally I got frusturated and ran the last two hard.  Conditions were tough, but not THAT tough.

I jogged a couple laps, then, figuring I hadn't got the turnover I wanted for the day, I did 4 x 200 with 200m recoveries, averaging 36.5 seconds.  I just wanted mile pace (about 40 sec) so I guess I ran a little harder to take out some frustrations.

I think I am just not mentally there with intervals yet, but I will keep trying, and maybe there won't be such a nasty wind next time.

Saucony A4 Miles: 11.31
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Dan on Sat, May 26, 2012 at 18:44:11 from 24.209.83.20

Mental, physical, who knows, but good effort all the same and that is what makes you such a good runner.

From Jake K on Sat, May 26, 2012 at 19:11:21 from 67.182.215.126

windy track workouts are the worst. good job just getting the effort in. you are still in the early stages of tempering yourself to the track... it will become more natural over time.

From SlowJoe on Sun, May 27, 2012 at 19:58:45 from 69.131.141.92

Dan - thanks, I will figure it out eventually.

Jake - you're right, probably just gotta kind of get used to being uncomfortable

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

73F, S 15 mph.  8:29 AP.  Last run in Abilene, ever!  We drove back to Elgin today and the movers are bringing our stuff tomorrow.  Kind of exhausting, even with all the help.

Kinvara 1 - Blk/orange Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Rye on Sat, May 26, 2012 at 17:56:50 from 174.27.117.224

When you move you are suppose to get rid of all your junk! Bye Bye Abilene...

From Dan on Sat, May 26, 2012 at 18:45:32 from 24.209.83.20

Moving is exhausting

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
17.000.0017.00

74F, S 18-25 mph.  Got out before the movers came for a warm, windy long run.  I think 17 miles is probably where I'll max out this summer on Sundays.  Anything longer starts to get miserable.  7:32 AP.

Kinvaras Miles: 17.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Bec on Sun, May 27, 2012 at 17:55:01 from 68.206.133.141

Great job on the long run. I agree with anything longer than 17 gets to be really boring.

Have fun moving all of your things today.

From Jake K on Sun, May 27, 2012 at 20:00:12 from 67.182.215.126

I'm with you too. My long runs the last 3 weeks have been 17, and everytime I finish I'm always thinking "that is the PERFECT length for a LR" :-) Obviously the longer overdistance runs are important, but its nice when they don't drag on forever.

From I Just Run on Mon, May 28, 2012 at 08:55:41 from 12.162.141.2

Great long run in the wind and heat!

Hope the move went well. I bet you're glad you're family is finally with you!

From derhammer on Mon, May 28, 2012 at 09:54:30 from 70.113.125.159

Nice fun. Funny, anything over 10 gets miserable for me.

From SlowJoe on Tue, May 29, 2012 at 07:13:33 from 155.219.241.10

Bec - thanks. This was the last free move for us (with movers and packers), so I guess I can't complain too much about the work this time!

Jake - I think everyone would be happier if a marathon was only 20 miles. Then we could always stop at 17 in training!

IJR - thanks, it is nice to finally have them around!

dh - yeah, I know the feeling. I guess I was distinguishing "really miserable" from "kinda miserable"

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.060.005.06

72F, S 13 mph.  8:39 AP.  Lots of unpacking to do today.  Unfortunately I have to help since I have the day off.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 5.06
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Burt on Mon, May 28, 2012 at 07:18:10 from 72.223.82.180

Too bad it's not Veteran's Day.

From Dan on Mon, May 28, 2012 at 08:09:18 from 24.209.83.20

Ah the joys of moving. Hope you get to eat well all the same

From Rye on Mon, May 28, 2012 at 13:42:53 from 174.27.117.224

Remember this we you want to move again.

From SlowJoe on Tue, May 29, 2012 at 07:14:31 from 155.219.241.10

Burt - I think I still would've had to help if it was veterans day.

Dan - food is always at the forefront of my thoughts, don't worry.

Rye - noooo!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
9.060.009.06

65F.  7:47 AP.  A few degrees cooler today, legs felt good, family has moved in with me....everything was right with the world this morning.  Nice relaxed run on a calm morning.

Tempo tomorrow.  I think Friday will be my track day, and either Tuesday or Wednesday for tempos; we'll have to see what works better.

Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 9.06
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Tue, May 29, 2012 at 07:43:55 from 67.79.11.242

Rye and I are doing our track runs on Monday. You should join us :-) then tempo on Wednesday.

Since your an Okie now I guess your rooting for the Thunder tonight?

From Rye on Tue, May 29, 2012 at 07:44:09 from 75.174.45.117

Man was not meant to be alone! Glad your family is with you. Good luck with your workouts this week.

From Dan on Tue, May 29, 2012 at 18:06:14 from 24.209.83.20

Nice to have the fam back I am sure. Amazing what a few degrees will do for the body.

From SlowJoe on Wed, May 30, 2012 at 07:22:49 from 155.219.241.10

IJR - definitely not a Thunder fan, although I am a Kevin Durant fan.

Rye/Dan - thanks, it is definitely nice to have everyone here.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.505.5011.00

64F, 91%.  7:06 AP.  It stayed cool for my tempo run today.  5.5 easy, turn around, then 5.5 @ TT.  The tempo miles were 6:33 AP -- (6:40, 6:32, 6:34, 6:30, 6:35, 3:12).  I was targeting 6:36, so mission accomplished.  As it warms up this summer I might even slow it down a bit from there.  I'm just now figuring out that you don't have to race every tempo and take it to the house for every workout.

Since I finished with some gas in the tank, hopefully I'll be ready for some 400s on Friday.  We're getting a cold front tomorrow afternoon/evening, so I'm hoping to finally get some 5k (or better) paces on Friday.

Fastwich Miles: 11.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Wed, May 30, 2012 at 07:56:04 from 67.79.11.242

Lucky you, it was 77 degrees this morning when I ran my tempo. Good run for you!

From Jake K on Wed, May 30, 2012 at 08:45:58 from 155.100.226.54

yep when its hot out, the tempo effort level can be the same, but you might be running 10 or so seconds slower per mile... but you are getting the exact same benefit. I guess that's why a lot of people use heart rate monitors on tempos... although i don't trust them. I try to just pay attention to my breathing and perceived effort level.

From Burt on Wed, May 30, 2012 at 18:56:32 from 72.223.82.180

Cold front? I need to have another "talk" with Mother Nature.

From Dan on Wed, May 30, 2012 at 20:28:23 from 24.209.83.20

We still share the long warm up, like it- nice tempo paces, hope I can join that... later... much later..

From Rye on Wed, May 30, 2012 at 22:06:32 from 174.27.90.169

Nice run joe....wish that I could throw those times down....

From Neil on Thu, May 31, 2012 at 10:47:39 from 164.165.24.5

Nice effort in the heat/humidity. BTW, as I get older I find that the phrase "take it to the house" means something a little different than it used to.

From SlowJoe on Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 08:34:52 from 155.219.241.10

IJR - at least there is some benefit of living in Okie land

Jake - It's definitely a goal of mine to pay more attention to effort level, and less to my watch, this summer for tempos.

Burt - kick her for me when you are talking to her

Dan - I know my 5.5 mile warmup is slacking a bit, but I will get back up to 10 this Fall.

Rye - I don't think it'll be too long before you are.

Neil - I know what you mean. I think.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.070.006.07

64F, N 10 mph.  8:29 AP.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 6.07
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Dan on Thu, May 31, 2012 at 20:59:18 from 24.209.83.20

Sure it was N? Not NxNW? Just reading between the lines Joe.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.323.0011.32

59F, ENE 9 mph.  59 degrees in June!  Sweet cold front.  I got lucky today was track day.  12 x 400m, with 200m active recoveries.  My target was 1:26, which roughly equates to my goal 5K pace (17:59).

I averaged 1:24.5.  Individually, 1:24, 1:25, 1:25, 1:24, 1:24, 1:24, 1:26, 1:23, 1:26, 1:24, 1:26, 1:21.

5:40 AP overall, so basically almost 3 miles at sub-5k goal pace.  Lost a little bit of consistency toward the end but was able to keep it up for the most part.  Finally a decent day at the track for me.

Now that I look at my recovery 200s, it's pretty funny how I milked them in increasing amounts (62, 64, 65, 65, 66, 68, 67, 67, 68, 70, 72).  Meh, as long as the 400s were good, I'm happy.

Saucony A4 Miles: 11.32
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Daniel Brunson on Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 07:43:10 from 68.14.171.105

Good workout Joe! I can't stand the track usually, but these types of workouts really help with speed.

From I Just Run on Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 08:16:37 from 67.79.11.242

This is a great workout. I don't think you milked the recoveries. The RLRF program calls for 1:30 recovery for 12x400 interval workout. You beat that by a mile!

From Neil on Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 14:15:18 from 164.165.24.5

Nice workout. I think I'm going to try this 12 x 400m thing this summer.

From Dan on Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 19:19:11 from 24.209.83.20

Great times Joe, i can't wait to get back to 12. I'm allowed 8 next week. Milk away, I certainly do it, I strive for 60s, but that varies greatly!

From flatlander on Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 12:06:12 from 76.31.26.153

That looks great, very impressed.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.070.006.07

64F.  8:18 AP.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.07
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
15.070.0015.07

70F, ESE 12-20 mph.  7:35 AP.  Got hot as the sun got higher.  Not looking forward to July and August.  I could also feel Friday's intervals a bit in my legs.  Hopefully my recovery time will decrease as I get used to doing more 5K workouts.

Kinvara 1 - Blk/orange Miles: 15.07
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From derhammer on Sun, Jun 03, 2012 at 19:12:54 from 70.113.125.159

I know I should feel sorry for you, but I don't. Nice to see the hot weather getting spread around a bit. LOL.

From seeaprilrun on Sun, Jun 03, 2012 at 22:24:26 from 68.102.145.108

in the meantime...I texted with your wife all night!

From I Just Run on Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 09:01:57 from 67.79.11.242

I would have loved to have 70 degrees this morning! I'm not ready for this weather.

From SlowJoe on Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 10:20:44 from 155.219.241.11

dh - nah, I've had it pretty easy so far, training-wise

April - a textathon -- your endurance training has begun already. welcome back!

IJR - me neither. Anything over 70 makes me want to quit pretty early!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.020.006.02

75F.  8:36 AP.  One of those days where even recovery pace felt hard.  I think I'll take another easy day before speeding it up again.  This week's going to be somewhat impaired anyway due to some travel.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 6.02
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Dan on Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 19:16:52 from 24.209.83.20

Some days are like that- so I agree on the easy day. Be safe travelling - going far? or staying in state?

From Rye on Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 20:46:48 from 174.27.99.127

So, I are you a Thunder fan? Have a good travel week.

From SlowJoe on Wed, Jun 06, 2012 at 07:09:02 from 155.219.241.11

Dan - thanks - on Friday we're going to Gainesville, FL for 4 days for a family reunion on my dad's side.

Rye - thanks. No, not a Thunder fan. That would be a step closer to becoming an Okie. Not gonna happen.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
9.050.009.05

72F.  7:46 AP.  Legs felt a little better today.  I don't think I will have time for a track workout on Friday, so I'm thinking 4 x 1600 @ LT or faster tomorrow.  Maybe split the difference b/w tempo and interval since it might be the only workout this week.

Kinvaras Miles: 9.05
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
7.544.0011.54

71F.  Today was 4 x 1600m with 400m active recoveries.  I was shooting for 10K-15K pace (roughly 6:05 - 6:20 per McMillan).  Splts (with recoveries) were:

6:06, (2:03), 6:11, (2:12), 6:14, (2:15), 6:01.

Typical SlowJoe intervals, paces all over the place, but overall I did what I wanted.

Got home and realized I was out of chocolate milk, so I recovered with a Coke and a stack of lunchmeat.  Just like the pros, I'm sure.

Saucony A4 Miles: 11.54
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Wed, Jun 06, 2012 at 08:02:42 from 67.79.11.242

Nice splits! My splits monday were standing gasping for a couple of minutes!

Sometimes my recovery inclues a big slug of pickle juice :-)

From Jake K on Wed, Jun 06, 2012 at 08:45:36 from 155.100.226.54

Nice job on the mile reps!

I think that recovery food works - its fluid + carbs + protein... it gets the job done! people overthink that stuff too much! :-)

From Neil on Wed, Jun 06, 2012 at 14:48:55 from 164.165.24.5

Nice workout. Don't beat yourself up. The difference between 6:16 and 6:05 is what, 50 meters?

From Dan on Wed, Jun 06, 2012 at 19:56:40 from 24.209.83.20

Nice job Joe, and I hate milk so yep, great recovery meal!

From Daniel Brunson on Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 07:15:14 from 68.14.171.105

Good job on the last interval being the fastest. On my last effort like this I dropped off the cliff on the last one. Maybe I need to start drinking Coke. :-)

From Rye on Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 10:31:34 from 174.27.64.153

Nice run joe... Coke? You have found my vice! Have you tried vanilla coke?

From SlowJoe on Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 19:56:23 from 69.131.141.92

IJR - mmm, pickle juice. Yeah I like to keep moving the whole time, painful as it is, so I don't recover TOO much.

Jake - only problem is it's tough to choke down sliced turkey at 7am when you're hot and tired!

Neil - yeah,not too bad -- the intra-mile splits were weird too, I did a lot of adjusting each lap.

Dan - thanks. Not a huge fan of milk either but put chocolate in it and I'm fine.

DB - I have definitely mastered the art of sandbagging the next-to-last interval so I have some gas in the tank

Rye - yeah I drink a lot of coke. Better than snorting it I guess. Vanilla coke doesn't sound like something I'd like but I admit I haven't tried it yet.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.070.006.07

66F, drizzle.  8:21 AP on this recovery run.

Off to Gainesville, FL tomorrow for 4 days.  I think we're just bringing the ipad which doesn't work too well with FRB, I think.  So I'll probably just catch up with everyone Monday evening.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 6.07
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Dan on Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 20:20:33 from 24.209.83.20

Have a great trip Joe

From Neil on Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 20:41:31 from 97.121.40.61

Enjoy Florida. BTW, go to Settings> Safari> turn off JavaScript and you should be able to enter text from your IPad. That's what I'm typing on right now.

From ACorn on Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 23:56:02 from 24.2.76.146

Enjoy Florida. Hopefully what Neil said works for you, if not, enjoy all the fun apps!

From Daniel Brunson on Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 07:38:09 from 68.14.171.105

Have a great trip Joe.

From I Just Run on Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 10:35:16 from 67.79.11.242

Drizzle, that would be nice!

Hope you have a good trip!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.001.007.00

60F.  7:21 AP.  Early-morning miles in OK before leaving for FL.  Some random fartlek stuff on the way back.

Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 7.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 08:18:41 from 67.79.11.242

Thats an interesting word :-)

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
4.003.007.00

73F, 90%.  Gainesville FL - we were there for a family reunion.  I ran with my cousin who is training for his first marathon, and his girlfriend Toni, who has a sub-16 5K, but has been taking time off of running since college and gunning for a 5k OTQ.  We ran about 18 min slow, then 20 min fast, then back home slow.  Unfortunately I forgot my Garmin at the hotel, but it was on some hilly trails anyway.  I ran the tempo part with Toni, who asked me my tempo pace and said hers was about the same right now (she's just been doing 20-30 miles/week these days).  Anyway, it was a good hard effort and a fun time.

Kinvara 1 - Blk/orange Miles: 7.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From flatlander on Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 07:09:55 from 76.31.26.153

Your family or Danielle's? Not sure quite the correct phrasing, but your cousin's girlfriend is very fast.

From SlowJoe on Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 12:04:41 from 155.219.241.10

Flat - my dad's side of the family (really large!) It was fun to catch up with everyone.

As far as my cousin's gf, yeah, she was/is pretty speedy (http://www.all-athletics.com/node/166906). I think she is going to eventually build up to a marathon, which of course I encouraged, but I think she is still burned out at this point from a heavy year of training last year.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
14.580.0014.58

74F, 92%.  7:23 AP.  Ran from the hotel in Gainesville again, but solo this time.  Just ran whatever I felt like doing, distance and pace-wise.

Kinvara 1 - Blk/orange Miles: 14.58
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
0.000.000.00

All caught up on my last few entries now, and back in OK.  I took today off as I was way behind on sleep with all the travel, and pretty tired.  I'll survive.

Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
10.090.0010.09

67F, 90%.  Back in Elgin for this one.  7:20 AP was faster than my usual Tuesday run but I was working out a solution to something that ticked me off at work last week.  I always tend to run faster when doing that.  Think I have it figured out though.

Doing my "slow tempo" tomorrow, the one between HMP and MP.

Fastwich Miles: 10.09
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From flatlander on Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 07:10:48 from 76.31.26.153

Glad you got that worked out, remind me never to get on your bad side. I don't know about you, but it is going to be complicated for me this summer trying to decide how fast to run.

From Rye on Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 17:05:59 from 174.27.113.79

Nice run joe...I tend to get some faster miles when I am thinking about work and all.....That's what I need to do when running those blasted intervals. Enjoy your week!

From I Just Run on Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 08:25:43 from 67.79.11.242

Maybe I need to quit being so darn HAPPY when running so I can start picking up some speed. Thanks for the running advice Joe!

From SlowJoe on Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 11:18:50 from 155.219.241.10

Flat - yeah I'm going to have general paces in mind (for workouts only), but mostly go by effort this summer.

Rye - all I can think about during intervals is how many laps I have left

IJR - exactly, happiness is overrated -- you're welcome!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.006.0011.00

68F, ESE 10 mph, t-storms, raining the whole time.  6:52 AP.  I had to really think about whether or not I was going to run this morning as it looked pretty bad out there, but I'm glad I did because I got in a good tempo run AND did not get struck by lightning.

I did 5 ez, followed by 6 @ TT (target 6:37).  For the easy miles I did short out-and-backs from my house to make sure the lightning wasn't too close.  It was at least a few miles away the whole time.

6 tempo miles:  6:29 AP - 6:39, 6:33, 6:24, 6:32, 6:25, 6:19.

Finished with plenty of gas in the tank; at least as much as the last time I did this run which was at a slower pace and only 5.5 miles.  I think the rain actually helped me stay cool and helped my pace despite the waterlogged shoes.  Next time it rains in a race, I'm going to shed the shirt (even the orange shirt) like I did today and let the rain cool me off.

Kinvaras Miles: 11.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Jake K on Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 08:52:21 from 155.100.226.54

Nice lightning tempo!

From I Just Run on Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 07:35:03 from 67.79.11.242

Your tempo's are getting really fast!

I bet your wife got on you for running in the lightning!

From Rye on Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 11:41:39 from 174.27.115.73

Sweet tempo run joe! Great splits...take the orange shirt off.... what? can't be.... for our wedding anniversary my gave me a sweet redsox shirt with matching pair of shorts... no orange....

From derhammer on Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 09:23:57 from 64.245.52.2

sweet - I don't think I could touch those paces right now.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.050.006.05

72F, 88%, SSE 11 mph.  8:25 AP.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.05
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 13:56:17 from 67.79.11.242

I've got to run 20 of those on Saturday :-)

From Burt on Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 16:57:55 from 72.223.80.161

Nice recovery run.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.212.2410.45

70F, ENE 15 mph.  Back to the track today, this time just for speed.  I did 4 x 600m at 3k-5k pace with 200m active recoveries, then 6 x 200m at mile pace or better (200m active recoveries as well).

The 600s were 5:38 AP:  2:05, 2:05, 2:08, 2:06. (recoveries averaged 65 sec)

The 200s averaged 38.5.

I started at a dumb spot on the track and finished every repeat I did into a wall of headwind around the curve...didn't do myself any favors there, I probably should have thought that through a little better!  But I hit the paces I was after so all's well that ends well. 

When I got to the track, there was a lady there walking in lane 1, texting on her cell phone. That was a first for me. Lane 1 is where she would stay the whole time too.

After the workout, finished with the brutal "cooldown" from the track back up to my house.  It is only about 100' net uphill (a bit over 3 miles) but has some nasty steep climbs - the last thing I want to do after a track session.  I normally like my cooldowns to be around 0.01 miles and include some lying down.

Saucony A4 Miles: 10.45
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 07:39:32 from 67.79.11.242

Great speed work, sounds fun!

One good elbow takes care of a lady on a cell phone you know :-)

From joebell1981 on Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 09:51:08 from 99.39.133.24

Good workout! I agree, give that rude lady a couple scarily close passes :)

I like your cool down plan as well :)

From Rye on Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 11:17:31 from 174.27.115.73

Nice track session joe..... You guys are too nice! Run with your arm out takes the feet right out from under them!

From flatlander on Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 12:19:01 from 76.31.26.153

Good job. That's a new one, glad you showed some restraint, I think I would have had a word or two.

From SlowJoe on Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 11:05:06 from 69.131.141.92

I appreciate all the violent suggestions for the cell phone lady, thanks all! In the end it didn't really affect me, but who was she texting at 6am? Maybe it was email. Next time I'll ask.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.030.006.03

76F, 84%.  slept in a little.  8:23/mile.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 6.03
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Rye on Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 16:34:01 from 174.27.97.123

Hey Joe...is that 74 percent humidity like taking a shower? I don't comprehend that humidity. Several years ago our family went on a vacation and we spent some time in Illinois and the heat index at 10pm a couple of nights hung around 98 degrees. Something that I will never forget!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
17.080.0017.08

73F, 91%.  7:45 AP.  A real slog fest today, sucks that it is only going to get hotter for the next 2 months!  In fairness, I probably should've started earlier - as I was leaving, the sun was just beginning to rise, and shade does not exist out here on the plains, so I got a face full of sun the whole time.  Anyway, I really suffered through the last 6 or 7 but I feel like I should make some kind of long run attempt every once and awhile this summer since the marathon is my long-term focus.  So I guess I did that today.

Kinvara 1 - Blk/orange Miles: 17.08
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Bonnie on Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 08:51:35 from 150.135.115.28

Just slow down and know that you are tough, and if you do enough of these kinds of runs you will be tearing it up come the cool weather!!!

From Daniel Brunson on Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 17:03:09 from 72.192.87.232

Good job Joe. Did you pick a race for the fall yet?

From Dan on Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 21:55:53 from 24.209.83.20

Great job Joe- I caught up with some of your work, that last track workout was very impressive. You are going to kill it this fall!

From Neil on Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 10:13:15 from 164.165.24.5

Very tough to get those LRs in when you're in training cycle limbo. Hard to see the benefits when you're already in decent shape from the previous cycle and the marathon is still a ways off.

From SlowJoe on Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 21:15:54 from 69.131.141.92

Bonnie - maybe I just need to run in Arizona heat for awhile to appreciate Oklahoma!

DB - no, dragging my feet as usual. hoping to decide at least by late July.

Dan - thanks - not sure I can keep up 2 workouts a week all summer but will play it by ear

Neil - training cycle limbo is a great way to put it!

From derhammer on Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:09:23 from 64.245.52.2

I have to agree with Neil. I don't think you are gaining much, if anything, to be doing 17 mile long runs out of cycle, compared to say a 12 or 14 miler. But hey, you gotta do what you think is right. I know a 14 miler for you is just a regular daily run. :-) Good job getting through it.

From SlowJoe on Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:36:55 from 55.209.100.27

I think I figured I had to maintain some kind of LR currency or it would be harder to build that endurance back up. Maybe that is not the case? Believe me, I will look for any excuse NOT to do them this summer, especially when I'm already having issues recovering from speedwork during the week.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

70F, 93%.  8:33 AP.  Felt pretty wiped out today, even though it was a recovery run.  I think I will just repeat this run tomorrow.  2 workouts plus a long run every week is taking a toll and I think the only way to get through it is to make the other 4 days really easy like this.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 09:10:32 from 67.79.11.242

Hang in there, fall is just around the corner :-) but it's a really long corner!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.040.006.04

73F, 85%, SSE 16-23 mph.  8:20 AP.  Another recovery run, trying to regenerate my legs for the next workout - 20 min threshold run tomorrow.  I think they will be ready, though I was still a little sluggish-feeling today.  Much improved from the last few days though.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 6.04
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 08:21:37 from 67.79.11.242

I was looking back trying to see what trashed your legs. Was it the 17 miler? 20 min threshold tomorrow looks fun. I think I'm going to run 18-20 myself.

From Bec on Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:07:48 from 68.206.133.141

Hope your legs will feel better for the threshold run tomorrow. Sounds intense. Keep it up!

From SlowJoe on Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 16:46:55 from 69.131.141.92

IJR - it was actually speed work way back on Friday. my legs get cranky for awhile when I make them go below 5k pace

Bec - I think I'm getting better at recognizing when to back off and when to bring the pain. I guess I'll find out for sure tomorrow...

From Rye on Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 18:03:10 from 174.27.97.123

Sluggish??? I resemble that remark! Way to keep moving Joe. You guys runnning in the heat amaze me!

From Andrea on Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 18:53:12 from 67.177.11.154

That's quite a workout you have planned for tomorrow!

From SlowJoe on Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 20:12:44 from 69.131.141.92

Rye - I epitomize "sluggish" 99% of the time.

Andrea - 20 minute tempo is the weeniest workout I could think of. 20-MILE tempo, now there's a workout; I'll need you to test that one out for me first though.

From Andrea on Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 20:16:43 from 67.177.11.154

Well, I guess it depends what you consider threshold...if you're thinking half marathon pace, then that's hard! But marathon pace, a little more "weeny" :)

From SlowJoe on Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 20:37:16 from 69.131.141.92

Andrea - True statement. I was thinking 1-hour pace, even faster than HM. Too much? Definitely "hard," but I also figured kinda "weeny."

(No snarky comments about that last sentence...I'm watching you IJR)

From Dan on Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 20:37:47 from 24.209.83.20

Joe doesn't even know how to do a "weeny" workout. I hear ya on the speedwork- The last one I attempted (and never posted) did me in so I am just logging miles and working the base for some time.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
7.353.1010.45

74F, 85%, SSE 17-23 mph.  7:18 AP.  Goal was to get in 20 min @ LT pace (shooting for 6:20/mile).

7 easy, then a 5K in 19:29, then a short cooldown back to my house.

Splits were 6:19, 6:23, 6:09, 37.  Full disclosure: the first 2 miles were neutral, but the last mile dropped 40 feet.  Otherwise I would have been hurtin' a lot more.  This was hard.  Maybe too much warmup when it's already warm out.

Oh and I pulled a tick off my leg after a "pit stop" in a ditch on the way out.

Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 10.45
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 14:48:18 from 67.79.11.242

Nice paces! I'll be chasing you on friday with a similar run :-)

From derhammer on Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 09:21:52 from 64.245.52.2

My Kenyan friend suggested doing these time trials with no warm up. I can't say I agree with that, but I don't think 7 miles is really necessary either. I always tell myself to stick to the intent of the workout. Over-do the warm up and then the workout suffers and you haven't achieved the stimulus you were after.

From SlowJoe on Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 19:09:49 from 69.131.141.92

IJR - good luck at the roping event this weekend!

DH - yeah I could tell 7 was too much because I was already smoked after the first half mile of tempo, but maybe it's good to get to that lactate flowing soon too (more time under duress?). On the other hand, you don't get the speed/turnover that you would with a 2-3 mile warmup. I will probably experiment with a shorter warmup soon.

From joebell1981 on Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 20:31:21 from 99.39.133.24

Aren't marathon's just 20 mi. warmups for a super hard 10 k ? :) JK - nice job on the tough weeks with long and 2xhard workouts. I think you're overall body of work in the recent heat will pay dividends this fall.

From Dan on Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 20:51:35 from 24.209.83.20

I think it goes both ways. You said your focus was the marathon, so that speed work on tired legs certainly pays off (ala the tin-man work outs), but if you are doing just pure speed work, then you do not need that much. All that being said, I am much more interested in that tick.

From SlowJoe on Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 18:51:00 from 69.131.141.92

JB1981 - good point - I do love the extended "warm-up" when ramping up for a marathon, but am usually happy to just survive during summer

Dan - let me follow up then: I actually didn't notice him for a couple miles - thought it was just a sticker burr (I had a lot of those stuck to me) but I couldn't just brush it off and it felt like it was pinching my leg hair so I stopped to pull it off and it was a friggin tick. Pretty much the entire run after that, I felt like I had them crawling all over me. I guess I didn't though, because I couldn't find any more when I got home and I spent a good 10 minutes looking!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.040.006.04

71F, 92%.  8:12 AP.  more recovery..

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.04
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
7.822.9810.80

70F, 95%.  Friday is track day, so I was back for more torture.  This time 6 x 800m, 300m recoveries, shooting for 800's between my theoretical McMillan 5K and 10K pace - so 2:55 - 3:02.  I was successful again; average was 2:57.  I think I'm getting better at these, finally.

2:58, 2:59, 2:58, 2:56, 2:57, 2:56.

Recoveries averaged 1:33.

Only downside today was all the gnat clouds around one of the curves.  They all seemed to be right on the inside of lane 1.  So the choice was to either run through the gnats, or take lane 2 and add a little distance....my chest ended up looked like a killing field with maybe a hundred dead gnat bodies stuck to my torso.  I think I ate 5 or 6, with one ending up in my eye.

Saucony A5 Miles: 10.80
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Daniel Brunson on Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 07:15:10 from 98.184.141.37

I was once told that gnats are good protein. Man they have been bad this year. I've feel I've been responsible for hundreds of gnat deaths in the past several weeks.

From Jake K on Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 08:33:04 from 155.100.226.54

Spot on - nice workout!

From Rye on Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 11:25:06 from 75.174.43.152

Nice 800's joe. The gnat problem... Don't understand that.... We just put away the snow shovels.

From Burt on Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 17:29:52 from 72.223.80.161

I keep getting gnats in my work truck when I leave my door open. No fun. Great workout. Now go get that sub 3 marathon!

From flatlander on Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 07:32:35 from 76.31.26.153

I agree with Burt, sub-3 coming up.

From derhammer on Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 12:47:03 from 70.113.125.159

Very nice job. Gnats - yum. We have a few clouds of them while we were running in the park the other day.

From SlowJoe on Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 12:50:57 from 69.131.141.92

DB - Let's hope they learned their lesson and passed the word down to their gnat friends everywhere to stay off the roads.

Jake - thanks

Rye - yeah, yeah, your turn to gloat about the weather - enjoy the summer!

Burt - lets hope you learned your lesson too!

Flat - not going to accept anything less next time!

dh - it's really sad when you're too tired to even swat them away from your face

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
15.040.0015.04

72F.  7:31 AP.  Skipped a recovery run yesterday - Danielle was out of town and I had the kids; I didn't feel like getting the TM out and felt a little under the weather anyway.  But I woke up early to get in a solid 15 today.  Definitely felt better than the 17 last week.

Last summer I did 3 x 15-mile runs a week, in the heat.  Seems a little nuts but I think that is what was mostly responsible for changing me from a 3:16 guy to a 3:01 guy, the endurance I built from all those longer runs.  So I kind of want to stick with what worked, but I think I would get diminishing returns now that the base has already been built.  Going to aim for 1 x 15-miler a week now, and keep up the 5K training during the week.  I think I can still average 60/week (assuming I don't keep skipping recovery runs) and still be fresh for 2 workouts a week.  So that is the plan for the next 2 months, then I will build mileage up for a fall marathon - I'm leaning toward Tulsa in November now (39F avearge low for that Nov 18 race day!) so that I have time to get in some longer, cooler MP runs.

Fastwich Miles: 15.04
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Dan on Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 19:47:18 from 24.209.83.20

Good deal Joe- I like your plan. I hope to join you in Nov, but my body has been so erratic with injury this past year who knows what will happen. Your intervals were very impressive last week!

From I Just Run on Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 10:00:55 from 67.79.11.242

Good running Joe! Sounds like you have a good training plan for the summer :-)

From derhammer on Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 09:30:49 from 64.245.52.2

This is pretty much my plan as well, but I think 50 a week is good for me now, and don't plan on more than 60-65 peak during marathon training. I want to see if I can be more "fresh" this time around. We will see if it works. Tulsa definitely seems like a better probability of cool weather than say San Antonio. What's the course like?

From SlowJoe on Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 20:09:23 from 69.131.141.92

Dan - hoping you can get past these bumps in the road; there's definitely still time

IJR - thanks, guess we'll find out if it's any good...

dh - being fresh sounds like it might actually work. Tulsa is basically just 2 different loops around downtown/south Tulsa - looks like lots of turns, and a few hills but not too bad. I guess you never know until you get there, but for a 39-degree start I would put up with a lot.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.030.006.03

72F, 8:24 AP

1150s Red #2 Miles: 6.03
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
7.360.007.36

78F.  7:59 AP.  Another easy morning, but a tempo tomorrow.  The high is 108 today so it'll probably be a little warm, even the next morning.

Kinvaras Miles: 7.36
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Tracy on Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 07:43:49 from 50.103.235.9

"A little warm"?!!

From I Just Run on Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 08:04:20 from 67.79.11.242

You've got us by 2 degrees. Tempo for me tomorrow too :-)

From Dan on Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 20:44:07 from 24.209.83.20

So at 108, can you call off work? Can you just say the a/c is broke in the car?

From JG on Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 20:44:15 from 71.57.246.108

I guess I shouldn't tell you it was a high of 79 here today! Nice while it was here ... they are calling for 103 in Atlanta on Friday & Saturday ... but thankfully it will be a high of 94 for my race on the 4th!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
7.335.0012.33

77F, 80%.  Intent today was 6 easy, 6 @ TT (6:37), with 6:40s being acceptable due to the warm morning.  After the 6 easy, I was pretty sure I didn't have my A-game but I started the tempo portion.  Amost immediately missed my turn and went a good ways before I realized it.  I got my bearings and found another way home, but the new route had a lot more ups and downs.  The first 2 miles seemed to have a lot of downhill, and sure enough, for the next 2 miles it was payback time.  I'd pretty much wilted at that point as the sun was fully out.  I did 1 more and called it good at 5, and jogged home.  Survive to run another day..

The 5 tempo miles were 6:45 AP.  6:41, 6:34, 6:51, 6:55, 6:44

Felt completely opposite from 2 weeks ago.  Well, this summer is bound to have some failed runs like this, just the nature of the beast when it's hot.  As long as I keep trying and get in some good efforts, I think I can make it worthwhile.

Kinvara 1 - Blk/orange Miles: 12.33
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Bec on Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 07:25:55 from 68.206.133.141

Failed run? That run is far above failure when I look at the times you are cranking. I do agree the heat has been INSANE the last few days and you can count that against you on your run. STILL, looks like you are doing great!

From I Just Run on Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 07:59:01 from 67.79.11.242

As always a great effort for you! I agree with Bec, no failure here :-) Keep Sweating!!!

From Neil on Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:37:04 from 164.165.24.5

Definitely not a fail. Mixed up/down terrain may have been a blessing in disguise. Good job!

From Andrea on Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:46:17 from 72.37.171.52

The heat kills...especially after 6 miles warm up. Good workout, it's all about getting through all the ups and downs of workouts.

From derhammer on Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 07:39:13 from 64.245.52.2

Nice job Joe, especially considering the heat and course change.

From SlowJoe on Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 18:31:45 from 69.131.141.92

Bec - I'm just thankful I'm not down in Del Rio! (sorry)

IJR - thanks, it was definitely worth something

Neil - probably right, I actually need to work on hills anyway

Andrea - you're right, definitely don't need to set speed records every single time out...

dh - thanks!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.030.006.03

72F, 8:08 AP

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.03
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.824.009.82

73F, 70%.  7:06 AP.  Went to the track today with the intent of doing 5 x 1200, but I got there and half the track was ripped up - they were doing construction!  Well, this week was long intervals, so I decided I'd switch it to 4 x 1 mile, 2 minute recoveries, and just do it on the roads with Garmin.  I felt good today, and did some pretty good repeats.  Average was 6:08, exactly the same as last time I did this, but that was on the track, and these were on the roads.  3 of the 4 were net uphill - nothing dramatic, as you can see below, but definitely tougher than doing them on the track.

6:12   +14 ft

6:12   +27 ft

5:56   -28 ft

6:11   +23 ft

The last repeat was probably the best - it came out to only 23 ft net uphill on Garmin Connect but I don't believe the map data on that one...seemed like a lot more!  Either way, it redeemed me from Wednesday's tempo.

Saucony A4 Miles: 9.82
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Tracy on Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 08:06:57 from 50.103.235.9

Great workout! Your pace was consistent--glad you feel redeemed :)

From Bec on Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 11:54:32 from 68.206.133.141

NICE speed and miles! Looks like the warm weather isn't holding you back any.

From flatlander on Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 13:25:59 from 198.207.244.102

The hotter it gets the faster he runs. That's his way of getting out of the heat.

From I Just Run on Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 14:18:06 from 67.79.11.242

NICE...FAST...HOT...:!!!

From derhammer on Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 15:54:37 from 64.245.52.2

Nice job! Come to think of it, I have never done mile repeats on a track, nothing further than 1200m actually. I think it's great practice to run the longer intervals on roads - just like a local 5k or 10k race would be.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.080.006.08

83F, SSW 12 mph.  mid-morning run, 8:18 AP.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 6.08
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Rye on Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 22:34:07 from 174.27.97.123

83 ........ Man do you need some relief. Stud!

From flatlander on Sun, Jul 01, 2012 at 06:21:27 from 76.31.26.153

Some really great runs this week, congratulations. Saw your comment about running in the heat. I know it's true, but every year it is a leap of faith to go out there and run slower than I am used to.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
16.000.0016.00

74F, 78%.  7:29 AP.  Didn't feel as hot out there today - I actually felt the best in the last few miles instead of getting the usual drained/wilted/melted/weak/puny feeling.  Maybe I still had more heat adapting to do, although it was kind of a mild morning.

Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 16.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From derhammer on Sun, Jul 01, 2012 at 08:19:35 from 70.113.125.159

Definitely cooler - yesterday morning was really nice out.

From I Just Run on Mon, Jul 02, 2012 at 09:40:43 from 67.79.11.242

16 miles @ 7:29 is not just a walk in the park. I'd call it training :-)

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.040.006.04

73F, 82%, 8:20 AP.  just plodding along.  2 more months of summer, then I will start training for a marathon...I think I've settled on the Route 66 in Tulsa.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.04
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Tracy on Mon, Jul 02, 2012 at 11:42:57 from 50.103.235.9

What's the date of the marathon?

From SlowJoe on Wed, Jul 04, 2012 at 07:23:01 from 69.131.141.92

Tracy - Nov 18 is the date

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.000.008.00

78F, S 17-24 mph.  8:07 AP.  felt sluggish and kind of awkward.

Kinvaras Miles: 8.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 08:49:14 from 67.79.11.242

Me too!

From flatlander on Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 10:09:39 from 198.207.244.102

I think there is a significant difference between 78F and 73F. I tend to lump everything in the 70s together, but I think that might be the temperature range where the decline curve (or whatever it should be called) is the steepest. Anyway, good miles this week.

From Rye on Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 11:49:58 from 75.174.43.152

Awkward? I thought that was for teenage boys and girls not runners.

From SlowJoe on Wed, Jul 04, 2012 at 07:26:30 from 69.131.141.92

IJR - something in the air, I guess

flat - I'm glad I'm not the only one who has noticed that. the breeze seems to go from cool to warm in those 5 degrees.

Rye - no, no it's for runners too

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.893.1110.00

76F, 73%, S 10 mph.  Today was 3.5 warmup, a hard 5K, and 3.4 cooldown.  This time I cheated even more and put together a 5k course that dropped a net 100 feet.  The first quarter mile drops 50' by itself which is basically falling off a cliff by Oklahoma standards.  After that it's a pretty mild course with a few ups and downs.

I did the 5k in 19:13

6:06  -80 ft

6:23  +7 ft

6:07  -28 ft

:37

So even though I cheated as much as geographically possible, I couldn't even break 19.  This was basically time trial effort, without the finishing kick.  I know the heat slows me down, but not that much.  Still have more a lot work to do on that 5k goal I guess.

Fastwich Miles: 10.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Rye on Wed, Jul 04, 2012 at 08:59:59 from 174.27.97.123

I'd take it!!!!OKIE

From I Just Run on Wed, Jul 04, 2012 at 10:39:35 from 12.162.141.2

If you add the race day adrenaline I bet you'd get there!

From flatlander on Wed, Jul 04, 2012 at 20:16:21 from 76.31.26.153

Nice time trial, and nice mental energy to get up and do something like that. A real race is always going to be quite a bit faster, at least for anything under 25K. After that it gets more iffy I think.

From derhammer on Thu, Jul 05, 2012 at 08:22:33 from 64.245.52.2

Still impressive to go out and run this on your own. For a training run, those paces seem about right to me.

From SlowJoe on Fri, Jul 06, 2012 at 14:40:52 from 69.131.141.92

Thanks all, I guess convincing yourself to run hard is half the battle anyway.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.040.006.04

75F, 8:17 AP.  I can feel the sleep defecit turning into sleep debt -- should be able to sleep in on Saturday though

1150s Red #2 Miles: 6.04
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Rye on Thu, Jul 05, 2012 at 20:43:02 from 174.27.111.36

From what I hear sleep is overrated......

From Tracy on Fri, Jul 06, 2012 at 07:07:14 from 50.103.235.9

Hope you get your beauty sleep...

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.353.009.35

73F.  Short interval day - went down to the track for 12 x 400, knowing it would probably still be under construction...it was.  So, reset the watch for 0.25 mile laps and did 12 x .25 miles, with 1-minute recovery jogs.  Naturally, it seemed like every repeat started at the bottom of a big hill, and every good downhill was wasted during the recovery minute.  My goal was to average 1:26 (goal 5K pace) but I only managed a 1:28 avg.  Maybe not too bad considering the terrain (splits ranged from 1:22 all the way to 1:38 depending on hills) but probably not as good as the 1:24 avg from the last time on the track.  I think the important thing is that I made sure to put forth the effort.  Just for grins, here are the splits - all over the place thanks to the stupid track being closed.

1:28, 1:26, 1:28, 1:34, 1:27, 1:26, 1:22, 1:25, 1:38, 1:27, 1:32, 1:23

Saucony A4 Miles: 9.35
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Fri, Jul 06, 2012 at 08:34:41 from 67.79.11.242

I'm doing the same workout next week but luckily my track is open. I think 1:28 on the road is equivalent to 1:24 on the track!

From derhammer on Fri, Jul 06, 2012 at 10:50:52 from 64.245.52.2

Nice to see you doing intervals!! 12 x 400 with only 1 min recoveries ain't easy.

From Tracy on Fri, Jul 06, 2012 at 11:09:43 from 50.103.235.9

Great job on a tough workout. I bet I can guess which were uphill...

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.210.006.21

86F, 8:12 AP.  mid-morning run.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.21
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Tracy on Sat, Jul 07, 2012 at 11:29:06 from 50.103.209.77

Glad you survived the heat.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
14.750.3715.12

73F, 76%.  7:18 AP.  Felt cooler today and my pace hovered around 7:00-7:05 for the second half of the run yet still felt easy.  Finished up with 5 or 6 hill sprints.

We should have some cooler weather blowing in next week.  By cooler, I mean maybe 3-5 degrees lower in the morning and highs below 100.  So it's all relative, but I'm looking forward to it anyway.  May even see sub-70F once or twice if we're lucky - basically a blizzard.

Kinvara 1 - Blk/orange Miles: 15.12
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Tracy on Sun, Jul 08, 2012 at 10:08:18 from 50.103.209.77

It's sad when "cooler" just means the temps don't go over 100! Good miles today!

From Dan on Sun, Jul 08, 2012 at 19:56:32 from 24.209.83.20

The high was 95 here today, 1st sub 100 since last Monday, feeling ya! Nice run, I like when low 7's feel easy, or I would like that :)

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.040.006.04

77F, 78%, 8:42 AP.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 6.04
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Neil on Mon, Jul 09, 2012 at 10:44:18 from 164.165.24.5

Very nice. An easy run that's really easy. It must feel like you're barely moving but I find that running really slow helps me to be able to run fast.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
7.390.007.39

73F, 92%.  7:31 AP.  Got some rain yesterday (finally) to cool things off but it brought some humidity to replace the heat.  Tempo run tomorrow - I am hoping the forecasted 68F low actually happens...that is going to feel amazing if it holds true.

Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 7.39
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From derhammer on Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 16:23:45 from 70.113.125.159

wow - 68, can I drive up? Well, it was 73 here this morning but 96% humidity kind of cancelled it out, so don't hope for too much. :-)

From Dan on Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 20:29:16 from 24.209.83.20

I have found the dew point is critical to the humidity and how much it makes it miserable. Maybe DH and I will join ya :)

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
9.802.2012.00

72F, 89%.  7:36 AP.  Nice out, but another failed tempo.  I could tell during the warmup it wasn't going to work today.  I still tried - my intent was 6 easy, then 6 @ 6:40.  Well, it felt like I was sprinting already in the first tempo mile, and I gave up once my pace started to bleed into the 6:50s, soon into the 3rd mile; I had no will to fight through it today.  Not sure what the deal was - as good as I felt Sunday, it was the complete opposite today.  Seems like I either feel really good or really bad these days.

Kinvaras Miles: 12.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From derhammer on Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 09:22:16 from 64.245.52.2

Sorry it did not go well, we all have these kind of days.

From Tracy on Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 10:11:26 from 50.103.209.77

Glad you at least still got the miles in. Sorry it didn't go as planned.

From Andrea on Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 15:02:28 from 72.37.171.52

Save it for another day!

From Rye on Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 20:15:43 from 174.27.111.36

Bummer, running is like life or life is like running..... we have to be able to adapt.

From joebell1981 on Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 06:14:55 from 12.186.80.1

I know this exact feeling, Joe. I have had many of these type days. I wouldn't sweat it. Remember it as a workout to conquer another day. :)

From flatlander on Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 20:46:08 from 166.249.197.113

Sorry about the bummer day, but at least you got it in.

From SlowJoe on Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 06:38:57 from 69.131.141.92

Thanks all, I think I have started to just accept the hit-and-miss workouts this summer.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.660.006.66

71F, 82%.  8:22 AP.  Did a recovery run down to the HS track and back to check the progress of construction.  They've done exactly nothing in the past week.  It's almost like my training doesn't even matter to them.  Looks like it will just have to be 1/2 mile repeats on the road tomorrow...

1150s Red #2 Miles: 6.66
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Tracy on Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 07:19:28 from 50.103.209.77

Those jerks. Don't they know you have serious plans in the works?

From Dan on Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 19:40:26 from 24.209.83.20

While I am not a fan of the exact miles you ran today ;) I do realize that if those guys would get to work it would have been a different story. Don't let the all or nothing when you run (from yesterday) phase you. I think the weather just plays havoc with our body.

From SlowJoe on Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 06:40:45 from 69.131.141.92

Tracy - I know, it's like the high school only cares about the HS students...weird.

Dan - heh, yeah I noticed that on the mileage; it just goes to show the track is evil.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.643.009.64

71F, 82%.  Solid 6 x 0.5 mile workout today.  Of course, no track, so I set the ol' garmin for 1/2 mile laps.  I did 90 second jog recoveries between repeats.  3.5 mile warmup, then:

3:02, 2:58, 3:01, 3:00, 2:57, 2:59.

Average was 2:59.5.  I was shooting for 3:01-3:02, my "CV pace," roughly 10k pace, so I did a little better than that.  Given some hills and the fact that it's mid-July, definitely a good solid pace.

Interestingly, my recovery paces were faster today than they usually are; I averaged just under 8:00 pace on the 90-second recoveries according to Garmin.  Not sure what to make of that yet - I don't pay attention to my watch when I do repeats (except to see when my 90 seconds are up), but maybe I am getting more comfortable at 5-10k paces and it's just not crushing me like it used to.

Saucony A5 Miles: 9.64
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Dan on Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 16:55:46 from 24.209.83.20

Ah the good ol' CV pace. Solid paces my man. The increased speed during recovery is your body getting acclimated to that pace. I always spout off about 75% of the recovery is in the first 30 seconds anyway. Now getting the mind to buy into that is a different story. Nice Job!

From JasonD on Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 10:38:11 from 24.1.80.94

It does sound like you are getting used to the pace. You could either decrease the recovery time (although 90 seconds is on the shorter end I think) or add a repeat or two. But it looks like you are using the pace for a certain purpose (I had to look up CV pace), so it looks like good things are coming.

From SlowJoe on Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 17:44:22 from 69.131.141.92

Dan - thanks. Should probably be doing 60 seconds recovery and a little slower pace for a true CV workout, but man those recoveries seem so short already!

Jason - thanks for the feedback. I've been telling myself I can go ahead and do a couple extra repeats if I feel up to it but I'm always just so relieved to get to the minimum that I bail. Probably shouldn't give myself the option for less next time!

From Daniel Brunson on Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 21:15:36 from 98.184.141.37

Good workout Joe. Would you mind telling me which model Garmin you use? I think maybe it's a touch more sophisticated than my 110.

From Daniel Brunson on Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 06:40:53 from 98.184.141.37

I guess I should have read my manual more thoroughly. I also have the auto lap function and did not realize it until now. I've been doing splits the hard way all this time.

From SlowJoe on Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 07:15:30 from 69.131.141.92

DB - glad you figured it out, I still don't know all the functions on my watch (the 405) and it's been 2 years. Being able to change the auto lap has definitely saved me a few times on days like this when the track is closed or in use.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
10.150.0010.15

73F, 80%.  8:49 AP.  Mount Scott!  I went with my neighbor and his friend to run up Mt. Scott today.  It's only about a 20 min drive, and I'd been wanting to do it for awhile (yes there are some "mountains" here).  There's a paved road that goes all the way to the top, about 1000' of elevation gain over 2.5 miles or so (7.5% avg grade).  We were at a 10 min pace most of the way, but I broke off with about .7 to go and made a good push to the top at about an 8 min pace.  Then we all jogged back down, added a few more easy miles on flatter ground, and called it a day.

Today was supposed to be recovery, so I suppose I'll just skip the long run and run short and easy tomorrow.  No sense in doing 3 difficult days in a row.

Fastwich Miles: 10.15
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From derhammer on Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 10:11:18 from 70.113.125.159

Sounds like fun and a nice change of scenery.

From Dan on Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 10:53:39 from 24.209.83.20

Sweet, love breaks in routine and that looks like a great one!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
4.000.004.00

yep, 4.  that's all I got, my legs are sore.  I am taking it easy for a couple more days and then maybe I can reattack that failed tempo on Wednesday.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 4.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Rye on Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 14:08:06 from 174.19.97.194

Why did you bother to lace up your shoes ??:)

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

71F, 82%, 8:31 AP

1150s Red #2 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Dan on Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 20:14:18 from 24.209.83.20

It's sticky ... Good call on resting thelegs imo

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
7.000.007.00

71F, 80%.  7:33 AP.  It was nice and cool again today, but I think the fun is over for awhile as we hit the dog days.

Kinvara 1 - Blk/orange Miles: 7.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 07:40:29 from 67.79.11.242

Hello Mr consistancy!

I've been out for a few days but it looks like you've still been burning up the pavement. Good job on the miles!

From Rye on Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 18:42:10 from 174.27.101.43

71 cool??? You got to be kidding! Nice jog getting the miles in.....IJR...slacker:)

From allie on Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 20:06:02 from 97.126.212.224

dog days. sounds scary.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.504.5011.00

75F, 76%.  7:23 AP.  5.5 warmup, then 3.5 at MP.  felt terrible.  Then a mile easy, and one more at MP.  That felt terrible too.  In a rut...

Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 11.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From derhammer on Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 09:05:43 from 64.245.52.2

It happens to the best of us! Summers are hard, I can't even come up with a race anytime soon since I know we won't even get some cooler mornings until October - if we are lucky. I have a 5k, 10k, half and full plan - but they are all so far off that it is hard to stay motivated in this heat. Keep plugging away. To quote LMFAO Party Rock Anthem lyrics "Everyday I'm shufflin'." That's how I feel these days. :-)

From JasonD on Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 13:45:30 from 24.1.80.94

My MP workout I did today felt harder than the 800M workout I did Sunday. Humidity was in the upper-80s when I started, but temp was only about 75 degrees. It's now 101.

From Daniel Brunson on Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 08:00:43 from 173.218.59.169

Years ago I thought it was crazy to run outside all winter long. Now I feel that winters are so much more enjoyable and condusive to PR's than summers for distance running.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.070.006.07

78F, 65%, 8:37 AP.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 6.07
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Burt on Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 07:31:33 from 72.223.80.161

Get out of the rut!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
9.500.319.81

77F, 62%.  7:46 AP.  No intervals this morning, after an 8-week streak.  I felt like walking just after 3 miles of warmup so I knew it wouldn't work out.  Ran to the trailer park by the lake and took it easy instead.  After passing "Sewer Lagoon," I saw a tiny baby skunk walking around.  He was cute enough that I was almost not scared of him.  Almost.  Then a baby goat came running after me.  Interesting wildlife they have down there.  In the last mile, I did a few sprints.

I have not been on the blog for more than maybe 10 minutes total this whole week, due to work, but I will catch up with everyone soon.  Just when I thought I finally had a reasonable 8-5 job...

Kinvaras Miles: 9.81
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From flatlander on Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 07:12:28 from 76.31.26.153

At least your week was better than mine.

From Daniel Brunson on Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 07:30:31 from 173.218.38.119

Is it considered a 'rave run' when a baby goat comes running after you?

From Jake K on Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 08:29:52 from 155.100.226.54

Running > Blogging

You can always catch up on the second one!

Good week!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
4.530.004.53

79F, 8:18 AP.  Didn't feel like doing 6, so I did less, which was still more than I wanted to do, which was zero.  Maybe tomorrow will bring some more motivation.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 4.53
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Rye on Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 09:54:01 from 174.19.99.130

huh? :) or :(

From flatlander on Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 13:11:47 from 76.31.26.153

I'm sure it will. You might be overtrained right now?

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
15.120.0015.12

80F, 66%.  7:30 AP.  My legs were somewhat fresh from a week of doing no challenging running whatsoever, so I was able to hold a decent pace on a pretty warm morning.  The last few days it's gotten up to 107-108 in the afternoon, which translates to some steamy mornings.  The lack of humidity helped, but I was still wilting a little at the end.

Kinvara 1 - Blk/orange Miles: 15.12
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From allie on Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 07:36:16 from 174.23.135.116

yikes, that is hot. great mileage and pace in all that steam.

From Burt on Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 14:08:19 from 72.223.80.161

Yikes, you are hot. Great mileage and pace for being so steamy.

From Daniel Brunson on Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 15:31:52 from 68.14.174.169

Great job!

From derhammer on Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 15:43:15 from 64.245.52.2

wow - I see that even Nebraska is hotter than Texas - who would have thought. Nice run.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

80F, 63%.  8:42 AP.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
7.700.378.07

78F, 69%, S 10 mph.  7:43 AP.  Easy run with some strides and hill sprints at the end.  The last few sprints actually felt smooth and non-awkward, which is a change.

Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 8.07
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Daniel Brunson on Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 07:36:19 from 68.14.174.169

Good run. I thought maybe we were on the same program until you ran yesterday. I'm using Pfitzinger's 55 to 70 plan. Are you on the 70 to 85 plan, or some version thereof?

From I Just Run on Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 08:25:02 from 67.79.11.242

Way to keep pushing through this summer heat! Sorry

I've been a bad blogger for a couple of weeks, I just didn't seem to have much to say :-(

From SlowJoe on Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 17:28:35 from 69.131.141.92

DB - I am not on any kind of plan right now, but I do tend to use Pfitz-like patterns ever since I read his book. I think the 55-70 will work out great for you.

IJR - I know what you mean, no worries. We're all ready for summer to be over with. Hope you get healthy soon.

From Dan on Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 18:12:49 from 24.209.83.20

Great start to the week Joe- you are carrying team 'bad bloggers' quite well!

From Rye on Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 21:41:59 from 174.27.68.181

joe....awkward? There you go using that term again. Hey, nice run for you.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
11.500.0011.50

82F, 60%.  7:46 AP.  I thought if I felt good I might do a progressive finish run.  I did not.

Fastwich Miles: 11.50
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 08:02:16 from 67.79.11.242

I've got to quit looking at your blog...it's depressing me :-( Not for what you're doing but for what I'm not doing :-) Good running Joe!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.620.006.62

82F, 58%.  dont remember the pace, 8:30s-8:40s probably.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.62
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
4.504.008.50

73F, 73%.  A lot cooler this morning, so I knew I needed to get in a workout.  I did my last recovery run yesterday to the track and it looked ok.  The lanes weren't painted and it felt a little soft, not quite as springy, but runnable for sure.  So this morning I went down there for 4 x 1600.

I did the first repeat in a nice, controlled 6:15; felt like I was ready to start dropping that down, but about 200m into my second repeat, a worker guy yelled at me saying I couldn't be there because they were doing construction on the track (he was the only guy there and was not doing any construction).  Well, the first thing I did was finish the lap (on the track) because I don't like being scolded.  Then I jogged across the grass to talk to him.  His explanation was actually pretty good - apparently they put the track gunk down in layers every couple days, and you're not supposed to get any "foreign oils" and other stuff on it.  I guess it did feel kind of sticky.  Anyway, it shold be done within a week or two.

Well, I didn't put on my second best pair of flats for nothing, so once I got off the busy road, I did the last 2.75 miles, a good uphill push for the first 2 miles, back to my house to get my 4 fast miles.  6:46, 6:33, 4:30.

Saucony A4 Miles: 8.50
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From flatlander on Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 07:19:58 from 76.31.26.153

Love the passive-aggressive reaction. I would have done the same thing, except probably run an extra lap, give him a secret finger wave and take off. You are much more mature than I am, and as a result you learned something. Good running this week.

From I Just Run on Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 07:52:02 from 67.79.11.242

I was anticipating a fist fight as I read down your blog entry...just a little disappointed :-)

From derhammer on Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 08:58:48 from 64.245.52.2

Too bad about the track.

Wow - 4:30 for that last mile?

From Daniel Brunson on Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 11:11:36 from 70.183.55.240

Good workout Joe. I wish my runs were as exciting as yours. What with baby goats and constructions workers and all.

From SlowJoe on Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 11:54:02 from 155.219.241.10

Flat - it's still kind of stupid because the wind blows a lot more stuff on the track than I could ever bring, but at least it'll be done soon.

IJR - sorry...the guy ended up being somewhat nice

dh - 4:30 is correct. for 3/4 mile!

DB - the joys of living out in the sticks

From allie on Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 20:26:28 from 97.126.221.48

humans and their foreign oils...

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
4.050.004.05

85F, 56%, 8:15 AP.  Warm, but I slept in - 8 hours of sleep!  If only there was a way to get that much every night.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 4.05
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Rye on Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 08:36:26 from 174.27.75.211

Wow... 8 hours... you lazy bum!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
0.000.000.00

Have my parents over for a few days, so instead of running, I played golf with my dad.  I actually shot an 85.  It was definitely a forgiving course, and had some reachable par 5's, but I was hitting it much better than I expected given that I only play 2-3 times a year.

I guess I will find some spots this next week to sneak in some extra mileage.

Weight: 0.00
Comments
From flatlander on Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 07:14:09 from 76.31.26.153

Good choice, running will always be there. When I play I'm good for two holes before the real me takes control. Amazing you could shoot a whole round like that.

From I Just Run on Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 09:49:19 from 67.79.11.242

You're just multi-talented....! Maybe they will someday come up with a biathalon with golf and running combined!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
9.600.4010.00

79F, 48%.  7:34 AP.  Easy, plus some strides and hill sprints toward the end.

Gonna be hot this week - highs in the low 110s, but at least it's a dry heat!

Fastwich Miles: 10.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From flatlander on Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 07:23:16 from 76.31.26.153

Don't fall for it. That dry heat can be the worst of all. Be careful!

From Jake K on Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 08:19:08 from 155.100.226.54

An oven is "dry heat" but I wouldn't want to stick my head in it.

I don't really mind the days that are ~100 degrees in SLC (we've had a lot of them this summer), but that extra 10 degrees just seems like it would be miserable.

From I Just Run on Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 09:10:10 from 67.79.11.242

You're so lucky to have the "dry heat" :-) It makes things so much easier ... ha ha!

From Neil on Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 10:56:23 from 164.165.24.5

110+ !?! That's hotter than Sofia Vergarra wearing a sleeveless sun dress w/ a plunging neckline, fanning herself while singing "Feliz Cumpleanos."

From Neil on Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:07:54 from 164.165.24.5

Disregard the last post. My 16 yo self somehow hacked into my fastrunningblog account.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.400.006.40

78F, 53%.  8:23 AP.  The low humidity makes it bearable.  The one good thing about a drought, I guess.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.40
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 08:50:45 from 67.79.11.242

You don't have to mow either!

From seeaprilrun on Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 08:52:21 from 208.54.86.242

Exactly!

From SlowJoe on Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 06:08:02 from 69.131.141.92

Good point! I think I've mowed the back yard just once in the past month....and it didn't really need it.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
12.050.0012.05

81F, 53%.  7:43 AP.  Normally a tempo day, but I knew it would be ugly and disappointing if I tried.  So I didn't.  Too hot.  And I'm good with that.

Kinvaras Miles: 12.05
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 08:30:05 from 67.79.11.242

Why do I get the feeling you are carrying a few of us on the blog :-) I can't imagine how much you're going to notch it up this fall!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.600.006.60

82F, 44%.  8:46 AP.  tired trot to the track (best alliteration ever).  They had just painted it red/orange, but no lanes yet.

It is supposed to hit 114 degrees today (it was only 112 yesterday), so I doubt I will be doing a workout tomorrow anyway since it's going to be a warm morning.  maybe a slow workout, we'll see.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 6.60
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From derhammer on Fri, Aug 03, 2012 at 08:43:40 from 64.245.52.2

I read that the street lamps in Stillwater are actually melting. Crazy!!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.002.5010.50

82F, 46%.  7:26 AP.  No workouts this week at all so finally, with 2.5 miles to go, I picked up the pace for a little progressive mini-tempo.  Last 2.5 were 6:39, 6:29, 3:07.  I focused on the uphills, doing surges on each one.

Kinvara 1 - Blk/orange Miles: 10.50
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Daniel Brunson on Fri, Aug 03, 2012 at 07:51:46 from 68.14.174.169

Good workout. Own the hills!

From I Just Run on Fri, Aug 03, 2012 at 08:53:23 from 67.79.11.242

I love the hills...good job!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
10.710.0010.71

80F, 71%.  7:44 AP.  No run yesterday - we woke up early to get down to Six Flags in Arlington as it opened up for the day to celebrate my daughter's 6th birthday.  It was fun - draining, hot fun.  Spent 8+ hours at the park as it topped 100 degrees - I had to carry around the 4-year-old half the time, so I think that qualifies as a workout.

Anyway, this morning I went out from the hotel and found some cool places to run - to The Ballpark where the Rangers play, and from there to Cowboy Stadium.  Then there was a nice little path down a river so I looped it and then did a lap around Cowboys Stadium.  Then the other way doen the trail and back.  Ended up with fewer miles than I would've run at home but I was pretty tired from yesterday so it was plenty.

Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 10.71
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
9.040.009.04

77F, 55%.  7:32 AP.  Back in Elgin for this one...more AB miles.

Fastwich Miles: 9.04
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Dan on Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 19:35:22 from 24.209.83.20

Welcome back... hey I liked the cool places to run. Was it cool?

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.670.006.67

81F, 60%.  8:16 AP.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.67
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
11.700.3612.06

75F, 80%.  7:33 AP.  Traded a little heat for a little humidity but it felt nice (it actually rained for a few minutes last night!)  Ran mostly easy/moderate, with some strides and hill sprints at the end.  Trying to psyche myself up for some 400s on Friday - it's been awhile, and I am trying to stay in touch with 5k pace better than I have in the past.

Kinvara 1 - Blk/orange Miles: 12.06
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From allie on Wed, Aug 08, 2012 at 06:24:05 from 174.23.146.24

nice running, joe. 400s...ugh. have fun!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.040.006.04

73F, 83%.  8:09 AP.  Nice and cool for my recovery run this morning; should be even better tomorrow morning for my intervals since a front is coming through.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 6.04
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Thu, Aug 09, 2012 at 08:54:42 from 67.79.11.242

Keep it up Joe, make us Texans proud! Oh wait, you're not a Texan any more :-(

From Dan on Thu, Aug 09, 2012 at 19:49:52 from 24.209.83.20

Nice Joe- glad the weather is giving you an inch finally.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.113.0011.11

72F, 59%, NNE 10 mph.  A little cooler today.  12 x 400m at the track, 200m active recoveries.

Average was 1:25.6 (1:31, 1:22, 1:28, 1:24, 1:23, 1:25, 1:26, 1:27, 1:25, 1:27, 1:26, 1:23).  For my sub-18 5K goal, I need about 1:26, so this was a little under that, which is good.  There was a definite headwind on the backstretch which hurt a little so a good effort, all in all.

Ran in my new racing flats and they tore up the back of my heels...bummer.  Now I have some blisters to contend with (not to mention a bloody sock).  All my other shoes have little grooves or something similar in the back, I guess to prevent that from happening, but not these for whatever reason.  Maybe I can cut these or something and try to modify them myself.

Mizuno Wave Universe Miles: 11.11
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From joebell1981 on Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 09:52:20 from 99.39.133.24

Great workout, Joe. Looks like your on pace for the sub 18. Good workout for the fall 2:55 marathon, also.

From ACorn on Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 11:21:34 from 68.66.168.22

Great track session!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
4.050.004.05

83F. Waited until later to get out for a short recovery run.  Pace was low-mid 8's.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 4.05
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Dan on Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 22:33:16 from 24.209.83.20

Great track work the day before. Sorry about the shoes- I have thought about trying those, but chose the Saucony's instead. Let me know if you mod them or are giving them another shot.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
15.190.0015.19

77F, 57%, ESE 13 mph, overcast.  7:33 AP.  Felt ok, the cloud cover helped.  After the run I watched the men's marathon.  Never watched one from start to finish like that, and I actually enjoyed it.  I won't spoil it here in case you haven't seen it yet.

Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 15.19
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Daniel Brunson on Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 09:20:15 from 68.14.174.169

Nice run Joe. What time did the marathon air? I thought it aired live at 5 this morning right in the middle of my run.

From SlowJoe on Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 10:07:05 from 69.131.141.92

Yeah it was 5am - DVR'd it...

From Daniel Brunson on Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 10:32:05 from 68.14.174.169

DVR...of course. Every so often I think I could use one of those.

From Jason D on Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 20:23:16 from 24.1.80.94

I'm on ET, so I got up at 6. I went to bed about 1, so I was pretty blurry-eyed. Good stuff though.

Looks like another 15-miler in the books, and a good start to the week. I'm thinking Boston might be possible for me this year, but I am looking for advice for long runs. What do you do for your buildups for your 3:01-3:02? My longest runs were 20 and 22.25 last year and I don't think the 22+ helped me that much. I'm trying to get on board with the Hanson Brother's approach, but I get nervous tacking on an extra 45 minutes to an hour on race day!

From SlowJoe on Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 06:28:28 from 69.131.141.92

Hey Jason - I kinda think that the LR mileage matters a lot less than your total weekly mileage. I would keep doing what you're doing with the higher mileage, and just squeeze in a workout when you feel strong, once a week at most, to let your legs adjust. The key for me before my BQ PR was mileage, and patterning my training off Pfitzinger's Advanced Marathoning. Cliffs notes from that book are to do a mid-week MLR (build up to 15 miles), 3 long MP runs (like a 10 + 10), and recovery runs the day after any moderate effort.

Also, I noticed it looks like you're shooting for Indy, but keep in mind that to run Boston 2013, you might have to have the qualifying time by September, since it fills up early. Good luck!

From Jason D on Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 07:32:34 from 24.1.80.94

Thanks, Joe. That sounds similar to the Hanson Brothers (higher weekly mileage and being able to run at goal pace on tired legs). I'm already approaching the 70-mile week mark, so I figured it would be a good time. Thanks for the reminder about the qualifying window. I still need a bit of time to train I think. The weather will be a lot cooler in November too.

What do you mean by "3 long MP runs (like a 10+ and 10)"? I get the first part but what does the 10+ and 10 refer to?

Thanks so much for your advice.

From SlowJoe on Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 07:47:29 from 155.219.241.10

Sorry, that was a bit unclear. So in the entire training cycle, I do 3 long MP runs, the first at 9 weeks out, then 6 weeks out and 3 weeks out (which is more or less what Pfitz has in his plans). A 10 + 10 would be a 20-miler, with that last 10 at goal MP. I think the hardest one I did was an 8 + 14 on Christmas last year: a 22-miler with the last 14 at GMP. That might have been overkill, but the pace I ran on the 14 @ GMP ended up being almost exactly the same pace as my entire race 3 weeks later...so it's a good predictor of performance as well.

From flatlander on Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 20:16:06 from 76.31.26.153

Good running as usual. Glad it's cooling down up there, send a little this way, it's still way hot here. So are you going to Boston this year? I just reserved a hotel today, so I think I'm going to finally do it.

From Dan on Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 20:20:32 from 24.209.83.20

Good run,I watched it too...first one, enjoyed it, but was hoping Hall would have a better time at it.

From SlowJoe on Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 07:41:03 from 155.219.241.10

Flat - yeah, Fall comes a bit earlier up here - I will do my best to get you some cooler air! I am definitely going to try to register for Boston 2013, and probably buy the plane tickets after I get confirmation.

Dan - yeah having the 2 Americans drop out so soon was a bummer. Meb made up for it though at least.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.040.006.04

70F.  8:10 AP.  Little by little, it's cooling off.  Lots of 60's for lows in the forecast next week.  The timing is good as well - in 2 weeks I will start to ramp up for the Tulsa marathon.

I was just doing a little reading about the 1904 Olympic marathon.  Really funny stuff - highlights include the first instance of doping (using rat poison), someone who got a ride in a car for 10 of the miles, and a starving Cuban guy who would have done better but stopped to eat rotten apples at an orchard and got sick.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 6.04
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 12:15:02 from 67.79.11.242

Nice to hear you're getting some 60's. That's a perfect temp for me :-) I need to think about jumping into a training program again soon.

Those Olympic marathon facts are interesting, glad I live now and not then :-)

From derhammer on Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 09:26:21 from 71.42.145.138

I will miss the 60's I had last week, one morning was 59. Back to the 80's for the foreseeable future down here.

From seeaprilrun on Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 13:52:07 from 68.102.137.210

sounds like a good read! Tulsa marathon huh...I am going to have to look that one up.

From Jake K on Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 08:47:37 from 155.100.226.54

That's a great article!

From SlowJoe on Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 09:57:53 from 155.219.241.10

IJR - hope you can get some of that cold air soon.

dh - see comment to IJR

April - it's called Route 66 - I think they have a half and a full...nudge nudge

From SlowJoe on Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 09:58:22 from 155.219.241.10

Jake - you could have totally taken those guys!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
9.000.009.00

70F.  7:25 AP.

Kinvaras Miles: 9.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 07:58:16 from 67.79.11.242

Even though it's not much information, it's good to get on the blog and see someone who is running :-)

From joebell1981 on Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 19:14:05 from 99.39.133.24

Great job with your average paces, Joe! these daily runs seem to be down in the mid 7's most of the time - that is great! (Wish I could do that on a daily basis :) )

From SlowJoe on Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 12:18:30 from 155.219.241.10

IJR - glad to see you joined me!

jb81 - yeah I stopped paying attention to paces on these filler runs - I figure the legs will just go whatever pace they want - sometimes it's 7:25, sometimes it's 8:25!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
12.060.0012.06

71F, 88%.  7:36 AP.  Still can't think of anything to say about the run.  I put on my shoes and then ran..that's about it.  My oldest daughter starts 1st grade today though!

Fastwich Miles: 12.06
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 09:37:41 from 67.79.11.242

Your daughter starting 1st grade is something to talk about! My son is starting his senior year in high school. It goes by quickly, kinda like your runs!

From baldnspicy on Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 16:43:35 from 167.164.3.140

Joe, you're rocking! With numbers like those, 'nuf said!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.100.006.10

77F, 69%.  Forgot to look at the pace, probably 8:20s.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.10
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Burt on Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 17:32:27 from 72.223.86.148

Pace is made in San Antonio by folks who know what salsa is supposed to taste like. This stuff is made in Elgin OK! Get a rope!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.005.0011.00

70F, NNE 11 mph.  7:10 AP.  My 1 workout for the week: 6 easy followed by 5 tempo.  Went ok, but still felt tougher than I wanted it to.

The 5 tempo miles averaged 6:36.  Splits - 6:42, 6:38, 6:35, 6:32, 6:32.  The smooth-looking progression kind of belies the struggle it actually was, but maybe I'll do better when it cools off the rest of the way.

Kinvara 1 - Blk/orange Miles: 11.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 08:14:11 from 166.147.72.150

You're going to do some great things this fall!

From Neil on Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 10:59:53 from 164.165.24.5

Way to grind it out. If you're like me, it's difficult to dial it up for a hard tempo unless you have the urgency of a target race looming on the horizon. Somehow my body/legs just know. Weird.

From allie on Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 16:10:24 from 174.23.155.117

very nice, joe.

From Dan on Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 08:44:09 from 24.209.83.20

Nice work Joe- the cooler weather will be major boost to you.

From Jason D on Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 10:59:21 from 24.1.80.94

Weather is going to cool down fairly soon I imagine, Joe. Even Tulsa can't be too hot in November. The hot miles from this summer are going to pay off.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

78F, 69%.  8:07 AP.  Slept in, it was great. Ran at about 9am and it was still relatively cool.  Then it rained this afternoon which has become an extremeley rare sight around here.  Almost as rare as me putting a shirt on to run.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
14.002.0016.00

64F, 99%, foggy in spots.  7:11 AP.  Had a brand new pair of legs in the cool air.  I ran to Apache and back and felt really strong this morning, even hitting MP for the last couple miles without much effort.

Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 16.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Daniel Brunson on Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 19:17:07 from 68.14.174.169

Ahh, the cool, foggy air this morning. I forgot to mention the fog in my post. It was heavier than I've seen it in a long time. I guess it was foggy over a large part of the state this morning. Nice run.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.040.006.04

66F, 8:41 AP.  heavy legs, from running too fast yesterday at a useless pace.  oh well.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.04
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Burt on Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 07:34:59 from 72.223.86.148

Ah yes. Runner's remorse.

From flatlander on Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 13:32:00 from 198.207.244.102

I did the same thing today, so my tomorrow is your today.

From derhammer on Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 15:43:10 from 64.245.52.2

What a difference a day makes!

From Dan on Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 20:11:49 from 24.209.83.20

Light feet tomorrow....

From seeaprilrun on Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 20:16:15 from 68.102.137.210

"medium" pace. the sin of ambitious runners.

From Burt on Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 07:59:06 from 72.223.86.148

Awesome April!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.430.006.43

69F, 78%.  8:02 AP.  Sluggish again, so I cut it short.  Tomorrow is by far, weather-wise, the best day for a workout this week so I'm attempting to recover in time for it to get in some 10K pace work.

Kinvaras Miles: 6.43
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 10:52:19 from 67.79.11.242

IT was 69 here yesterday and very nice! Go recover and run, I bet you'll be ready :-)

From derhammer on Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 11:56:04 from 64.245.52.2

Good luck!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
7.803.1010.90

63F, 99%, thick fog.  A little ticked, because as I stepped out the door my Garmin battery read 0%.  Pretty sure I charged it recently, but it died right away.  Worst possible day for that to happen too - I still went to the track and did 6 x 800m, on short (200m active) recovery, at what I thought might be 10K effort.  I had a really specific time (3:02) that I wanted to hit, that corresponds to sub-38 pace for my race next month.  Oh well, maybe I did it, maybe I didn't.  After the intervals I did an all-out 200m sprint - pretty sure I set the new world record but the world will never know because my watch was dead.  I probably need to get a cheapo watch I can use as a back-up for timing splits.  Anyway, I got my legs moving faster than normal, so that's something.

Saucony A4 Miles: 10.90
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From allie on Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 06:09:40 from 174.23.155.117

congrats on the WR! i recommend the timex ironman -- you can get one for under $30 and it has everything you need (except for the minor detail of a GPS).

my garmin stopped holding a charge after only 1.5 years of use, so i trashed it and haven't gone back. if a $300+ watch can't make it two years, i don't want it.

nice job with the workout -- i bet you hit it just right. and as you said, the fact that you got your legs moving is what counts.

From Jake K on Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 08:33:43 from 155.100.226.191

We'll just assume you were right around David Rudisha's PR for all of the reps.

+1 on allie's recommendation on getting a $20-30 Timex watch... love it especially for the track... and they last FOREVER

From I Just Run on Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 12:55:40 from 67.79.11.242

Ha ha... sorry I didn't mean to laugh, but that's why you will see me wearing two watches in all my run pictures.

Congradulations on the new 200 World Record!

From Jason D on Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 13:33:12 from 24.1.80.94

I can do easy runs without a watch, but I can't imagine doing a track workout without one, but I've also learned what my breathing sounds like during different races so perhaps we could all benefit from more "6 x 800m, no watch" blog posts? I'd LOVE to throw my Garmin out the window, but I can't seem to do it. If they functioned better, they might be worth it.

Maybe they have some satellite images, Joe. We only need two with precise timestamps.

From Dan on Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 05:29:59 from 24.209.83.20

Like Jason said, I really can't imagine not having it. Mega props for the WR!!! You know, running those without a watch may be a blessing in disguise...

From joebell1981 on Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 05:41:17 from 108.59.48.1

Good workout, without the watch. :) Nice world record :)

From SlowJoe on Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 07:56:09 from 155.219.241.10

allie - thanks for the tip on timex, I will check them out. I have to admit my garmin has behaved pretty well over 2.5 yrs or so.

Jake - maybe a couple tenths of a seconds slower than Rudisha since, you know, I did 6 of them.

IJR - it all makes sense to me now!

Jason - I always hate running without a garmin but this was especially annoying. I will look into the satellite imagery - I do get the feeling I'm being watched sometimes.

Dan - I do feel recovered already - don't know if I just went too slow or maybe went the appropriate interval pace for the first time in my life.

jb - thanks, just got to get it ratified now somehow

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.070.006.07

71F, 60%.  8:11 AP.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 6.07
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
12.000.0012.00

74F, 78%, S 12 mph.  7:40 AP.  Stride felt a little weird, just kind of clomped around today, if that makes sense.  Probably not.

Fastwich Miles: 12.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From baldnspicy on Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 07:48:04 from 167.164.3.140

Makes total sense to me...

Kinda looks like you're serious about this running thing. :-)

From Jason D on Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 08:18:59 from 24.1.80.94

Oh, I get it. I went half the distance and a minute slower, and I felt like an old geezer running through the park. (Not quite like "the geezer" from the awkward runners video, but still probably looked odd).

From seeaprilrun on Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 18:36:52 from 68.102.137.210

I know exactly what clomping is, and am always afraid I will feel clompy on race day.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
4.830.004.83

80F, SSE 16 mph.  8:23 AP.  Almost 9 hours of sleep last night!  A PR for 2012, I'm thinkin.

LR tomorrow - I will not get carried away on the pace this time.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 4.83
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
15.130.0015.13

72F, 98%.  7:37 AP.  Thick, sticky slog on my normal 15-mile loop, which includes 3-4 miles of dirt (today = mud) roads.  I was going to do a bunch of pickups on the way home but only felt like doing 3 or 4 short ones.  The legs seemed to be stuck in invisible mud (after the real mud got kicked off).  Good enough, I say.

12 weeks out from Tulsa now.  Time to start ratcheting up a bit...within in a couple weeks, this 15-miler will be the normal Wednesday run....eep.

Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 15.13
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Dan on Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 14:03:34 from 70.194.10.150

Ah the moment the reality of the marathon sets in... Good run Joe

From Jason D on Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 17:23:00 from 24.1.80.94

I'm learning that running is a lot like being an academic. Certain times of the year feel like a bit of a scramble. For the marathoner it's fall, for the academic its end of summer and end of semesters.

I hear you on the double medium-long runs. Cooler weather is coming...I hope

98% humidity. Ugh!

From I Just Run on Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 07:49:13 from 67.79.11.242

Can we call you a "mudder" now? Good running. You're so going to be ready to race!

From SlowJoe on Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 18:20:13 from 69.131.141.92

Dan - thanks - I am secretly looking forward to the additional miles.

Jason - yeah the reason I didn't become an academic (in addition to the undersized brain) is that the entire year always felt like a scramble to me. Thanks a lot, beer...

IJR - you could, maybe, if I got electrocuted at the end. But I didn't. Maybe one of these days.

From derhammer on Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 11:32:37 from 64.245.52.2

Still a nice AP for the run. I almost got talked into the mudder here in the fall. I declined because I thought I was going to be running CIM. I guess I don't have an excuse now. :-)

I agree, the weather has to to break soon. It is just a matter of time.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.040.006.04

72F, 92%. 8:41 AP.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 6.04
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
9.000.009.00

72F, 79%.  8:01 AP.  Another easy day today with a tempo planned tomorrow.

Kinvara 1 - Blk/orange Miles: 9.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 10:48:43 from 67.79.11.242

Is your wife running any?

From Rye on Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 06:53:43 from 75.174.37.93

Been away for awhile....looks like you are steady as usual!

From SlowJoe on Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 15:37:37 from 69.131.141.92

IJR - yeah, Danielle is running 5 times a week, getting faster!

Rye - thanks and welcome back!

From Burt on Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 16:48:55 from 72.223.86.148

Good luck tomorrow.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
10.084.0014.08

66F, 71%, N 11 mph..  7:22 AP.  You know it's marathon training season when you wake up at 4:30am so that you can get in a 10-mile warmup before a workout.

I ran the last 4 miles hard, at a respectable 6:22 AP (6:35, 6:26, 6:15, 6:11).  Felt great to be able to do that after a summer full of weak/failed tempo runs.  The cool air obviously helped a lot today.

Saucony A4 Miles: 14.08
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 07:50:01 from 67.79.11.242

Wow, nice run. I bet you could drop your 5K PR pretty easily right now!

From Daniel Brunson on Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 07:52:09 from 68.14.174.169

Nice pace!

From joebell1981 on Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 04:31:57 from 108.59.48.1

Fantastic run, Joe! Way to really finish strong!! Last mi. in 6:11!?! Awesome :)

From joebell1981 on Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 04:33:10 from 108.59.48.1

I agree with I Just Run. Advice - go run a 5k race this weekend! :)

From Rye on Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 06:52:27 from 75.174.37.93

Pretty nice run Joe! enjoy that cool air!

From flatlander on Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 07:47:03 from 76.31.26.153

Respectable? Typical understatement. That is blazing fast, congratulations. You are really starting to pile up the miles

From derhammer on Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 11:35:34 from 64.245.52.2

This is a Wayne's World moment for me, "I'm not worthy!" (While bowing.) Great run!

From Dan on Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 19:44:02 from 24.209.83.20

Wow. Yep that says it.

From SlowJoe on Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 06:32:24 from 69.131.141.92

IJR - I do need a 5k, not many races around here though.

DB - thanks

jb81 - thanks, there will definitely be some 5k's in my future.

Rye - thanks, I will!

Flat - finally returning to form from peak Spring fitness...getting closer anyway

dh - you're worthy, you're worthy!

Thanks Dan

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.070.006.07

68F, 8:35 AP.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.07
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
10.650.4011.05

73F, 73%.  7:39 AP.  Easy with some strides and hill sprints at the end.

Looks like a mini heat wave for the next 5 days or so...hitting 104 this weekend..?  Hopefully summer will go away after that.

Kinvara 1 - Blk/orange Miles: 11.05
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.060.006.06

75F, 74%.  8:38 AP.  Nice day for a plod.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 6.06
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Burt on Sat, Sep 01, 2012 at 08:55:34 from 72.223.86.148

While you were plodding, I was slogging. I thought about you often on my run this morning. How you used to slog out in Afghanistan and all.

From SlowJoe on Sat, Sep 01, 2012 at 09:06:55 from 69.131.141.92

Good times, good times. It was Iraq though. I have been to Afghanistan, but only to drop bombs on it and then bravely fly away from it.

I was just cracking up at your blog entry today, it's a good one.

From Burt on Sat, Sep 01, 2012 at 09:13:10 from 72.223.86.148

You know, before I make a racially generalization and get myself in trouble, let me just say that I knew that. And that's all I'll say. Thank you for your bravery. You're a real American hero.

From SlowJoe on Sat, Sep 01, 2012 at 09:18:54 from 69.131.141.92

Thanks Burt - but the real hero is Batman. And by Batman I mean He-Man.

From Rye on Sat, Sep 01, 2012 at 19:10:21 from 174.27.122.100

I feel like I am intruding on a very tender moment here between you two...Burt... you have always been my hero...even if you don't have a clue about Mormon trivia...Joe..your a stud even if you "bravely fly away" THANKS FOR YOUR SERVICE!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
17.040.0017.04

73F, 75%.  7:39 AP.  Slow start this morning, had to wake up early to get this in before church.  My legs finally woke up around the 6 or 7 mile point, and I even charged a few hills in the last 5 miles or so.

Heat wave this week should end by Friday and my 20-miler next weekend will be a lot more pleasant.

Kinvaras Miles: 17.04
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.050.006.05

76F, 62%.  8:47 AP.  But, I brought it home with a sub-8:40 on mile 6.

106 degrees for a high today - someone needs to tell Oklahoma that it's September now.  I do see some nice low numbers on the forecast this next weekend though.  I just need to get in some kind of 10K-sharpening workout in this week.  Maybe Friday.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 6.05
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Jason D on Mon, Sep 03, 2012 at 11:09:50 from 24.1.80.94

Some days those sub 8:40s feel like sub-6s.

From Rye on Mon, Sep 03, 2012 at 18:03:04 from 174.27.122.100

That is nasty hot!!! Nice start to your week.

From Burt on Mon, Sep 03, 2012 at 23:37:56 from 72.223.86.148

Nice job on the sub 8:40.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
10.080.0010.08

75F, 62%.  7:58 AP.  Never could catch my breath today.  Monday and Tuesday always seem to be kinda rough for me.

Fastwich Miles: 10.08
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Wed, Sep 05, 2012 at 07:34:34 from 67.79.11.242

I think I live in a Monday/Tuesday world! :-)

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
15.080.0015.08

78F, 65%.  7:46 AP.  Got up really really early....15 miles completed before 6:45am - ouch.  Tried to keep an honest effort, kind of a hot and cranky run.

Kinvara 1 - Blk/orange Miles: 15.08
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From derhammer on Wed, Sep 05, 2012 at 09:25:46 from 64.245.52.2

Should be a fun day at work today! :-)

From Neil on Wed, Sep 05, 2012 at 11:24:53 from 164.165.24.5

That's brutal. I admire the dedication. Literally, the only time I ever get up that early is to catch a bus to the starting line. Normal people just don't do that voluntarily. ;)

From I Just Run on Thu, Sep 06, 2012 at 08:11:11 from 67.79.11.242

You did get up early! I can't wait to see how you ramp it up when the weather cools down :-)

From SlowJoe on Fri, Sep 07, 2012 at 18:27:06 from 69.131.141.92

dh - needed a lot of caffeine, that's for sure.

Neil - truer words have ne'er been spoken.

IJR - mo' miles, mo' problems!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.050.006.05

76F, 72%.  forgot to look at the AP, but the splits I noticed were 8:40's and 8:50's.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.05
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
7.641.409.04

79F, 63%.  Not a good effort today.  I went down to the track for a 4 x 1600, 400m recovery.  Normally I can do these around 10k pace and my goal 10K would have me doing them in about 6:05.  Well, at almost 80 degrees I thought 6:15 would be pretty good, maybe 6:20.  The first one was 6:22 (barely HM pace) and I was completey smoked.  Jogged the recovery lap, which didn't recover me at all, and started on the next one.  I made it to about 200m and bailed on the workout.  It was not going well at all.  This is where a training partner would help - it sure was easy to quit today, and I could have benefitted from sticking it out even with some slower splits.  On the other hand maybe it means I needed the rest, although I've been just jogging around all week anyway.  Cooler weather is on its way, so I'm not worried about the 10k, just wish I could have sharpened up for it a little better.

I took the long way home for my jog of shame and did some sprints along the way.

Saucony A4 Miles: 9.04
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Fri, Sep 07, 2012 at 08:15:05 from 67.79.11.242

I know how you feel. Funny, I just wrote a bible verse on my blog for today about this thought.

From Jason D on Fri, Sep 07, 2012 at 14:44:12 from 24.1.80.94

Probably needed a rest, Joe. Those Sunday long runs and midweek medium long runs take more of a toll than we think because the pace isn't blistering.

Maybe just a few short intervals early next week just to get a feel for the pace without beating yourself up?

From SlowJoe on Sat, Sep 08, 2012 at 18:31:25 from 69.131.141.92

IJR - better times are ahead...for both of us

Jason - probably a good idea, don't want 10k pace to be too much of a shock the ol' system

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.040.006.04

69F, N 12 mph.  8:18 AP.  Amazing, I went out at 9am and it was still in the 60s.  Looking at mid-50s tomorrow for a 20-miler - finally.  I'm thinking of making it a big workout since I punted the whole week, but don't want to mess with my 10K six days later.  Maybe something moderate at the end.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 6.04
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Dan on Sat, Sep 08, 2012 at 21:36:00 from 24.209.83.20

Nice miles this week Joe. Enjoy the 20 miler. Punting... sometimes its needed to win.

From flatlander on Sun, Sep 09, 2012 at 04:48:58 from 76.31.26.153

I wouldn't say you "punted" the week. Lots of miles in lots of heat. But the heat does the same thing to me, makes me have to bail on some of the harder workouts. I actually think it is the thing to do. OK to push through in regular weather, but heat is dangerous at the fringes of endurance. Anyway, it looks like you are past it. Our weather also broke, yesterday afternoon, so we might finally be on the downside of this.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
14.086.0020.08

55F.  7:13 AP.  Ahh.  Well, I couldn't resist turning this into a big workout with these cool temps.  It was 106 degrees on Friday, but an ice-cold 55 this morning.  I ran 14 easy and then wanted to pick it up to a tinman tempo (6:37) for the last 6.

First 14 were mostly 7:30s

Last six were a hair under 6:30 AP.  Splits were 6:37, 6:33, 6:27, 6:26, 6:31, 6:23.

A little faster than I needed/wanted, but for once the legs actually responded to my commands instead of mocking me.  They never felt drained and I think I stayed within myself pretty well.  I believe 6 days is enough to fully recover (in time for the 10K) but I guess we'll see.  I feel pretty good now, a few hours later, so I think with some easy running this week I'll be ready to roll.

Kinvara 1 - Blk/orange Miles: 20.08
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Jason D on Sun, Sep 09, 2012 at 13:22:11 from 24.1.80.94

Great long run, Joe. Average pace looks good for approaching sub-3 race pace. 6 days should do it I think, especially if you feel good now.

From joebell1981 on Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 05:14:02 from 108.59.48.1

Awesome run, Joe! that's a fanatastic marathon workout - I have no doubt you will break 3 hrs, by a lot... :)

10k should be a breeze - it'll be a good speed workout for you :)

From Jake K on Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 09:42:03 from 155.100.226.191

Nice run - way to take advantage of those freezing cold temperatures! :-)

From I Just Run on Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 13:29:46 from 67.79.11.242

Wow!!! What a run and confidence builder. I wanta be like Joe :-)

From flatlander on Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 12:37:06 from 198.207.244.102

This is a really impressive run. On a cool day, 3:00 is so far back in your rear view mirror you can't even see it.

From joebell1981 on Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 14:55:26 from 108.59.48.1

I agree, Joe. To me, this run by itself indicates a marathon time well below 3:00 :) You got it this fall, for sure!! Keep up the great work

From SlowJoe on Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 18:17:21 from 69.131.141.92

Thanks all. To be sure, the tempo was harder than MP effort but definitely not the lung-bleeding effort it sometimes is. I can at least CONCEIVE of a 2:50-55 marathon although I'm definitely not there yet.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.000.005.00

58F, 8:45 AP.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 5.00
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
14.000.0014.00

AM - 66F, 10 @ 7:55 AP.  Time to start mixing in some doubles to get my mileage up.  I think I will try to run on base at lunch and see how that goes.

PM - 87F, S 16-25 mph.  4 @ 8:28 AP.  Plodded around on the jogging trail on post during lunch.  At least I got something done today.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 4.00Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 10.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Jason D on Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 18:53:23 from 24.1.80.94

Good double, Joe. I always feel a bit tired in the afternoon but a second run wakes me up and my legs usually have some pop to them. Cooler temps would be nice, but I imagine it doesn't get super cold where you are.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
15.000.0015.00

68F.  7:45 AP.  Grinded out another 15 miles in the dark.  Grind is putting it mildly, I will definitely need these next 2 days for recovery after piling up a bunch of miles right after a hard long run on Sunday.

Fastwich Miles: 15.00
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.040.006.04

67F, N 21-27 mph.  8:40 AP.  Recovery day 1 of 2.  As achy/heavy as my legs felt yesterday, I figured 2 recovery days would be better than 1.  When you haven't raced in 4 months, you kind of want to do well.

I'm thinking A goal of sub-38, B goal of sub-39.  It might be a little hilly based on what I've seen on Fort Sill, but not sure yet.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.04
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From ACorn on Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 07:48:42 from 24.2.76.146

Nice miles this week especially with a race coming up!

From derhammer on Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:09:54 from 64.245.52.2

When's the 10k? I am thinking of a 10k down here on October 7th. I am not sure I can do sub 38 right now but would certainly think sub 39 is possible. I just have to talk myself into the pain of a 10k. :-)

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.050.006.05

57F, NNE 15-25 mph.  8:30s or so, the cool air felt great.

Should be decent weather for the race - low 60s and humid, but overcast.  Not perfect but nothing that would prevent a PR at least.  Looking forward to it.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 6.05
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Jake K on Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 08:44:25 from 155.100.226.191

Good luck tomorrow!

From Neil on Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 10:10:29 from 164.165.24.5

Go get it!

From Jason D on Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 15:56:38 from 166.147.104.144

Good luck, Joe. I'll be looking for your results.

From SlowJoe on Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 20:09:15 from 69.131.141.92

Jake/Jason - good luck to you guys as well on your races

Neil - thanks, have a good 20-miler!

Race: Fort Sill 10K (6.29 Miles) 00:39:11, Place overall: 7, Place in age division: 2
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
2.476.298.76

61F, 88%, overcast.  Meh, I give myself 4 out of 10 on this one.  Not quite where I want to be, but given the course/conditions, my highest mileage week in awhile and recent lack of track workouts, it was ok.

1 - 6:05 - First mile was flat.  I committed to sub-38 pace for mile 1 to see how it felt.  It didn't knock me out but I started to get the feeling another 5 miles like that was too much to ask.

2 - 6:21 - This mile was on rocky gravel roads and had one nasty uphill, but the effort level probably equaled mile 1.

3 - 6:02 - Back on roads, and got back some of the climb from last mile with a little bit of downhill.

4 - 6:33 - Wow.  I mean this was a net uphill of 30 feet, but still, I was starting to lose it.  Good news is I caught up to Army guy, who was in 6th, and we both started pushing each other.  He would pass me on the uphills and I would pass him going down.  We would stay within a few feet of each other until the end; it really kept me motivated trying to keep up.

5 - 6:27 - Still feeling weak but battling Army guy kept me at least pushing a bit.  Miles 4 and 5 were on the Howitzer trail which had a bunch of annoying ups and downs.  I can try to blame that but the truth is the fitness was not quite there.  In general, you probably shouldn't be going slower than your HM pace on a 10k.

6 - 6:09 - He picked up the pace and I followed.  I was surprised I was able to find that gear, and saw that sub-39 was a real possibility.

6.29 - 1:34 (5:29 pace) - I thought I was going to catch him but just as I was within a couple feet of him, my legs went Julia Lucas on me and he ran away.  I saw the finish line clock tick past 39 minutes.  Boooo!

Polling a couple other people, the average was about 6.3 miles on the Garmins - anywhere from 6.28 to 6.33 miles....hmmm.  My overall AP was 6:14 by my Garmin, enough to get my B goal of sub-39, but I can't really count it based on GPS alone, even if the course was potentially a little long....we'll have to stick with 39:11 which is still a small PR.

I think I have to face facts and realize I can no longer just take huge chunks of time off my PRs anymore.  It's going to get harder and harder to drop time, which I knew would happen.  I just wish I could've had a stronger showing to make me feel better about some of my goals.  The good news is the racing season is just starting down here, and I usually peak in the Spring (Boston?)

Saucony A5 Miles: 8.76
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Jason D on Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 11:07:39 from 64.134.196.192

Sorry the race didn't go as planned, Joe. Although Garmins can be off, I don't think they are egregiously so. We don't record short course times as PRs why do we want to record long courses as PRs? It's a great workout after two days of rest after a medium long run and high miles, racing at a distance that you dislike!

I'm no expert but I think your 20 mile long run is a better indicator of fitness for your goal marathon. I hear you about PRs. When you start to hit solid times they don't come every race.

From flatlander on Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 11:18:09 from 76.31.26.153

Terrific pace even if you weren't all that happy with it. Sounds like they have some pretty fast people there. I think Garmins are more accurate than course directors give them credit for, and I'm guessing the distance you measured is the correct one. I have gotten to the point where I take the published course length for marathons (amazingly, they all come out to 26.22), but everything else is strictly minutes per mile in terms of deciding how well I did.

From flatlander on Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 11:19:17 from 76.31.26.153

By the way, I'm guessing you are on a plateau right now -- I think you have several really decent PRs left.

From ACorn on Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 12:04:51 from 24.2.76.146

Great race! I agree with flat, definitely more PRs ahead.

From Burt on Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 15:20:52 from 174.234.4.177

Great job Joe. I'll draw you a graph of PR's versus time.

From SlowJoe on Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 20:12:41 from 69.131.141.92

Jason - good point. I guess to be conservative. Thanks for the perspective - my endurance (hence the tempo during the 20-miler) is better than the rest of my game

Flat - yep, some kind of plateau, but thanks for the POV. When I look back, I see 6:24 on a flat course a year ago, and 6:14 today on a hilly course. Hard to argue the results.

ACorn - Sucks to be almost 34, trust me! But I agree I do have some room to get better

Burt - I hope there are colors. I think you'll see a nice paraboloid approaching my limits...

From derhammer on Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 10:44:56 from 70.113.106.189

Nice job Joe! Yes, more work and the gains are smaller. Think of elites who train as hard as they do for a 1 minute PR, or even hundredths of a second for sprinters.

It is not necessarily your age but how many years you have been running consistently. I think since you have not been running that long you still have a lot of room to improve and get faster. Just as an example, Michael Woo didn't hit his 2:48 PR until he was 47 in 2008, and his first sub 3 was in 1999. Took him 9 years to get under 2:50. He ran many 2:50's over those years, almost always one or two minutes faster. But I do think we all reach a level where the huge PR's don't come anymore.

BTW, he didn't start running until he was 35. So you will get there for sure - you have plenty of time.

From Neil on Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 13:35:25 from 97.121.45.228

Solid performance. As others have stated, you're still on track for some huge PRs. You just need everything to line up properly now. When we first start running it was just a matter of showing up. Now it's contingent upon weather, sleep, nutrition, stress levels, mental toughness, etc. Makes it that much sweeter when the planets align. Keep it up!

From Jake K on Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 15:56:48 from 67.177.11.154

A PR is still a PR. The faster you get, the harder it is to really chop them down in big chunks. Be glad that you are moving in the right directions. You'll be in the 38 next time around.

From Dan on Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 18:44:33 from 24.209.83.20

I love PR's... even the 1 second ones. Nice work Joe, I honestly think you have many more right ahead of you!

From I Just Run on Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 08:03:04 from 67.79.11.242

I don't think your assessment of accomplishment is correct. You've been running lots of miles but not training for a 10K and you didn't really taper properly for this race. If you had prepared for this race properly by simply tapering a little more, your legs would have felt great and you would have PR'd by by a huge amount. Quit feeling sorry for yourself and smile a little .... luv you Joe :-)

From SlowJoe on Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 11:34:28 from 155.219.241.10

thanks for the comments all. This post was definitely a little whiny. At least I am still improving overall, even if it's in small pieces, and not in a straight line.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.000.008.00

63F, 100%, foggy.  7:59 AP.  8-minute pace seemed like an effort today.

Didn't run yesterday, my wife was out of town this weekend (after my race) and I had the kids by myself, so my first MP run of this cycle will be tomorrow.  I probably needed the day off anyway, it's been well over a month since my last one.  Looking to do 16 w/10 tomorrow.  Also looking to keep it under 6:50 pace this time around.  Hopefully this doesn't suck too bad.

Kinvaras Miles: 8.00
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.0010.0016.00

59F, N 11 mph.  7:13 AP.

16 w/10 @ MP.  Suceeded in keeping it below 6:50....my AP was 6:49.5.  Legs were still in fatigue mode but I thought it would be good to go ahead and do an endurance run while they were tired like this.

The 6 easy were in the 7:50s, with the 10 MP just below a 6:50 avg (6:49, 6:34, 7:00, 6:49, 6:42, 6:39, 6:54, 6:53, 7:01, 6:52)

The last 3 or 4 were painful, felt like the end of a marathon.  I know the next MP runs will go better, because I will make sure I am more rested, but I am definitely in a hole right now and need to take it easy for the rest of the week.  Still going to call it a successful workout though, because it was.

Saucony A4 Miles: 16.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Jason D on Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 08:38:32 from 24.1.80.94

YES. 10 mile MP tempo is nothing to frown on. You got a good lower-end long long run in too.

From Daniel Brunson on Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 09:52:44 from 68.14.174.169

You're looking good as usual Joe. Even when you are in a hole.

From ACorn on Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 22:45:48 from 24.2.76.146

Great tempo run! Those are the kind of runs I hope to build up to.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.050.006.05

57F, 8:36 AP.  Felt better today, but I got 7.5 hours of sleep which was unusually nice.  I think lack of sleep may be contributing to my inability to recover from hard efforts.

Anyway, I registered for Boston last night!  Or applied anyway - we shall see if BQ minus 4 will do it.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.05
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Jake K on Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 08:43:53 from 155.100.226.191

That's great - hope you get in!

From I Just Run on Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 09:07:04 from 67.79.11.242

Great weather up there! Sleep is good. I've been sleeping in the last few days and not getting up early to cycle. I'm afraid I'm getting used to it :-(

I'm excited for you going to Boston, wish I were going too :-)

From Dan on Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 16:16:59 from 24.209.83.20

Sleep is good! Boston you are in :)

From Jason D on Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 08:09:02 from 24.1.80.94

Good luck, Joe.

From derhammer on Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 09:15:55 from 64.245.52.2

Yup, a lack of sleep will do it. If I were not able to sneak in a nap during my hour long lunch breaks now and then I am not sure I would make it. :-)

You will get in, no doubt. I think last year most got in with 3 minutes or better. Don't forget, a lot of people who should have re-qualified at Boston 2012 didn't because of the weather, and there are not many opportunities for a make-up race during the summer.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
10.430.0010.43

AM1 - 59F, 6.43 miles @ 8:32 AP.

AM2 - 77F.  Snuck out for 4 miles on the jogging path before lunch.  Forgot my watch, but it's marked every quarter mile so at least I got the distance part right.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 4.001150s Red #2 Miles: 6.43
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 08:04:54 from 67.79.11.242

Can you keep running 6 miles and not 15-20? It makes my 2 not seem so short :-)

From Burt on Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 23:18:16 from 72.223.86.148

Sneaking out before lunch. I like your style.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
12.640.4013.04

67F, 7:33 AP.  Felt good enough to do some strides and hill sprints in the last couple miles.

Kinvara 1 - Blk/orange Miles: 13.04
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 14:54:49 from 67.79.11.242

Wait a minute, I didn't think there were any hills in Oklahoma? Good running with or without hills! :-)

From Jason D on Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 16:07:47 from 24.1.80.94

It looks like Boston is still not filled to capacity, Joe. I imagine you'll be just fine. Someone made a good point about there being a good number of people not requalifying at the Boston Massacre last April.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
4.860.004.86

76F, 8:30 AP.  Short recovery run, so I could get back to help with our oldest, who is throwing up every 30 minutes.

Weird thing on this run - I was up for 3 or 4 hours before I left and didn't eat anything (whoops).  Thus, a bit after 2 miles, I started to feel weak and low-blood-sugary and hungry.  My pace dropped to about 9:30 and I was wondering if I was going to even make it home without walking.  Then about 10 minutes later it went away and my energy was back.  Made it home and felt like I wanted to run more...like it never happened.  Explain that one..

Definitely need to stuff myself between now and tomorrow morning (21-miler).

1150s Red #2 Miles: 4.86
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
20.001.3921.39

62F, NNE 11 mph.  7:28 AP.  My tour of small Oklahoma towns no one has ever heard of continues.  I've hit Apache and Fletcher; today I ran to Cyril.  Apache was big time, they had a blinking red light.  We only have a stop sign in Elgin.  Anyway, it was a solid run.  I kept the pace moderate but no need to hit MP since I did that on Tuesday.  Actually the last mile and change were at MP or a little faster.  I had plenty of reserve in the tank today.

Now to sit back and wait for my daughter's stomach virus to hit me.  It's just a matter of 'when.'

Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 21.39
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Daniel Brunson on Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 09:04:33 from 68.14.174.169

Nice run. I'm sure you paid heed to the blinking red light and came to a full stop right.

From derhammer on Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 09:26:16 from 70.113.106.189

Sounds like a great way to tour Oklahoma.

From Jason D on Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 17:40:46 from 24.1.80.94

Good way to keep things interesting. The town I grew up in in Maine has a few stop signs but no traffic lights (not even a blinking one). Get fart enough north in the state they stop naming towns and use numbers (seriously).

My sister has kids and it's always a matter of "when" and not "if" the entire house gets sick, usually extended to my parents' house too. Wonderful, beautiful, little germ factories.

From joebell1981 on Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 05:54:25 from 108.59.48.1

Good run, Joe - looking strong, buddy. Go ahead and register for Lawton HM! :)

From SlowJoe on Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 08:45:07 from 69.131.141.92

DB - oh, definitely. 6am on a Sunday in Apache, OK sees a lot of traffic.

dh - could be worse...

Jason - "hey so where are you from?" "That quaint, idyllic town: 4369. It was a simple life in old 4369." crazy!

jb81 - I hope to - it's pending child care right now (my wife is running it already).

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
4.000.004.00

67F, 8:28 AP.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 4.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From allie on Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 16:06:27 from 97.117.94.112

i appreciate the to-the-point-ness of your entry.

keep that stomach virus away!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
10.050.0010.05

AM - 73F, S 10 mph.  Unseasonably warm, yuck.  Forgot to look at AP, guessing about 7:50 for the 10 miles.  I forgot to mention that I was accepted into Boston over the weekend.  My aunt has already agreed to host us in Providence, so it looks like it's definitely going to happen.

 

Kinvaras Miles: 10.05
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Jason D on Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 08:31:51 from 24.1.80.94

Great news, Joe. Looking forward to tracking you and others. After I started running, the day of the Boston Marathon is like Christmas.

From Daniel Brunson on Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 19:36:20 from 68.14.174.169

Congratulations! An accomplished ultra runner named Russell Secker I once had the honor of eating dinner with before his keynote speech the night before a trail run once said that Boston is a victory lap. Enjoy it man!

From Andrea on Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 19:45:35 from 67.177.11.154

Congrats! Especially for having family you can crash with :)

From SlowJoe on Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 07:24:07 from 155.219.241.10

Jason - yeah last year I signed up for a whole bunch of notifications - it was fun to get all the emails of folks' progress (even though everyone bombed due to the heat).

DB - yeah, it will still be a focus race but I am definitely going to try and just enjoy the experience as well.

Andrea - Thanks - yep, free lodging and catching up with family is a huge bonus.

From derhammer on Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 13:00:52 from 64.245.52.2

Huzza! Hope to see you there.

From flatlander on Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 14:08:01 from 198.207.244.102

Congratulations, that is so hard to do for the younger age groups, it is a huge accomplishment.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
13.072.0015.07

68F, 80%, S 15 mph.  7:28 AP.  Ran the last 2 miles hard - 6:27, 6:21.  Kinda hard to get going on mornings when you have to wake up at 4am, but at least I did something other than easy miles this week.

Tomorrow afternoon we leave to go to my brother's wedding; all 4 of us are in the wedding, including the 2 kids (flowergirls).  He's getting married in Hawaii.  We tried to find a way to leave the kids here with family, but everyone wants them to come to the wedding.  So this won't quite be the relaxing trip it could be, but at least we'll get out of Oklahoma for 5 or 6 days.

Fastwich Miles: 15.07
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Jake K on Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 08:33:38 from 155.100.226.191

Sounds fun! At least you'll be prepared for the humidity!

From derhammer on Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 13:02:28 from 64.245.52.2

What? Did you run out of magic caffeine pills?

Have a great trip! I am sure you will get in some awesome runs there.

From Neil on Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 16:55:15 from 164.165.24.5

Nice, have fun! BTW, I hate it when people come up w/ lame excuses when we try to pawn our children off on them. :)

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

65F, 97%.  8:36 AP.

Off to Hawaii this afternoon.  Thunderstorms in OKC.  40-minute layover in LA.  2 kids in tow.  What could go wrong?

1150s Red #2 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Jake K on Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 09:24:56 from 155.100.226.191

That sounds like it will be easy breezy!

From I Just Run on Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 09:50:34 from 67.79.11.242

Enjoy Hawaii! Wish I were one of your kids right now :-)

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
7.530.007.53

73F, 71%.  7:30 AP.  Sadly, my only run in Hawaii....will explain on Wednesday's entry.

For this run, I just wandered around, tried out King's Trail, which is a trail of volcanic boulders (didn't last long) and generally felt pretty good after 3 days off.

Kinvara 1 - Blk/orange Miles: 7.53
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
10.080.0010.08

52F.  7:21 AP.  Back in Elgin.  Kept it at a nice moderate clip on a cool morning.

So, remember how I was waiting to catch my daughter's virus?  It happened on the plane ride to Hawaii on Thursday.  So I was completely floored for most of the trip - fever and body aches with a nice sore throat that I still have.  What a waste!  I tried to get out and do some stuff but it was very debilitating...have not been that sick in awhile.  The wedding was a success at least.  Anyway, I ran on our last day (Monday) and we left Monday night around 7pm.  When did we get back?  Tuesday night at 7pm.  Ouch.  Thanks, American Airlines.  So, a little jet-lagged today but we made it back.

There is a HM this weekend I am still planning on doing, but I feel like it's going to suck now.  The good news is my legs kind of got a nice taper with all those days off, but the rest of my body is not as happy.  Still feel loopy and out of shape.  So my plan is to not do anything difficult until Sunday, then try to get back into marathon training after the race.

Fastwich Miles: 10.08
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Jake K on Wed, Oct 03, 2012 at 08:55:28 from 155.100.226.191

Bummer on getting sick right as your vacation was starting. How is that even remotely fair?

The backoff will probably do your legs some good once the rest of your body rebounds.

From Steam8 on Wed, Oct 03, 2012 at 10:12:39 from 166.70.55.77

BUMMER! I hope you are back to yourself! Looks like you are still pumping out the miles during your recovery!

From Rye on Wed, Oct 03, 2012 at 17:33:48 from 71.220.176.7

Good luck....I was down and out for 2 weeks with bronchitis and that turned into one of my lungs filling up.......nasty

From Jason D on Wed, Oct 03, 2012 at 17:38:05 from 24.1.80.94

You haven't lost your fitness, Joe. Running does feel weird after a few days off.

Still a bunch of time before the marathon.

I'll wish you the best of luck this weekend now in case I don't get a chance before.

From Andrea on Wed, Oct 03, 2012 at 18:37:09 from 67.177.11.154

Sorry you're feeling awful. Lots of Emergen-C and hopefully everything will turn around by the weekend!

From Daniel Brunson on Wed, Oct 03, 2012 at 22:09:09 from 68.14.174.169

That sucks that you got sick on your trip and AA took a day to get you home. They did that to us on our way to Hawaii on our honeymoon. Good luck in your race. I know you'll kill it.

From Neil on Wed, Oct 03, 2012 at 23:38:30 from 71.220.150.219

Planes are like Petri dishes for disease. Get better and good luck Sunday!

From flatlander on Thu, Oct 04, 2012 at 06:34:03 from 76.31.26.153

I found a nasty bug on an airplane back in March, I'm totally sympathetic. Still, you might have a pretty good shot at the half, especially if it is Sunday? It will depend more on whether the bug is still around rather than lack of training, I think.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.030.008.03

62F, 7:40 AP.  More aerobic running, trying to shake the rust off, while keeping the effort low, while getting back in shape, while running a decent mileage, while resting for the HM on Sunday, while recovering from illness.

Kinvaras Miles: 8.03
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Daniel Brunson on Thu, Oct 04, 2012 at 07:26:06 from 68.14.174.169

while juggling 4 balls, while balancing a plate on top of your head...nice run Joe.

From I Just Run on Fri, Oct 05, 2012 at 07:47:40 from 67.79.11.242

Sounds almost like a conflict in interest :-) You should be good for Sunday!!!

From Bec on Fri, Oct 05, 2012 at 09:05:57 from 70.115.203.100

:) Sounds like a good run.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
7.051.008.05

54F, NNE 16 mph.  7:20 AP.  More aerobic miles, but with a HMP mile toward the end.

For the race (which we still need to go sign up for today), my goal is just to PR.  My HM PR is the strongest one I have, so if I could improve on it after going through last week, it would definitely be a good sign.  Good news is it should be about 40 degrees with the front coming through, my favorite running temperature

Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 8.05
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Andrea on Fri, Oct 05, 2012 at 09:51:39 from 72.37.171.52

Good luck!!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.000.005.00

46F, NE 13 mph.  8:19 AP.  And, here comes the cold front!  Short, easy run today and a HM race tomorrow.  Still can't quite shake this sore throat/headache combo, but large doses of tylenol seem to keep it mostly at bay.

The abysmal 10K I just ran suggests I won't be anywhere near PR territory but I have a weird feeling I might be close.

Looking forward to seeing some St. George results today....go Neil!

1150s Red #1 Miles: 5.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Bec on Sat, Oct 06, 2012 at 19:06:18 from 70.115.203.100

Feel better soon Joe. 46F? That is cold! I haven't seen any temperature drop like that in Del Rio.

Race: Lawton HM (13.1 Miles) 01:28:30, Place overall: 12, Place in age division: 2
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
2.1811.0013.18

43F, NNE 10 mph.  6:43 AP.

Wasted a good $75 on this one.  The second half of the race was really bad and had to slow it to a jog for the last couple miles.  My legs tightened up worse than they ever have at the end of a full marathon.  It was kind of embarrassing getting passed by so many people at the end.  I hope that this has more to do with getting over an illness and less to do with me being in terrible shape.

6:20, 6:17, 6:28, 6:32, 6:38, 6:31, 6:32, 6:46, 6:42, 6:45, 6:51, 7:27, 7:24, 1:16 for 0.18 (7:12).

*left out a mile split...now updated

Saucony A5 Miles: 13.18
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Andrea on Sun, Oct 07, 2012 at 11:45:15 from 67.177.11.154

Sorry for the bad race. Hopefully you can get over this illness soon!

From flatlander on Sun, Oct 07, 2012 at 18:27:55 from 76.31.26.153

Weird stuff happens sometimes, but this one seems pretty cut and dried -- for me at least it is really hard to get past an illness of any kind for anything longer than a 10K. Still a very respectable time, by the way.

From Burt on Sun, Oct 07, 2012 at 18:31:02 from 72.223.86.148

You came in 12th place. I'm guessing you must've been in the lead to get "passed by so many people at the end."

From Neil on Sun, Oct 07, 2012 at 21:22:41 from 71.220.150.219

On the upside, you ran a great 10 mile tempo for your November marathon. :) Seriously, I hope you recover soon and get what you need out of these last few weeks of training. Take it easy and get well soon.

From I Just Run on Mon, Oct 08, 2012 at 08:35:34 from 67.79.11.242

Sorry for the mishap Joe. I can't imagine this was from lack of conditioning, you've been running strong. I wouldn't consider this waste of $75 but a good experience, another race under your belt and preparation for you're bigger races coming up. Besides that you now have another trophy to display! :-)

From Jake K on Mon, Oct 08, 2012 at 09:07:32 from 155.100.226.191

Getting sick just takes a lot out of you. Even when the symptoms go away, your body isn't recovered for a hard, long effort yet. Sorry it didn't go well, but I don't know if there is anything else you really could have done (other than not get sick)

From SlowJoe on Mon, Oct 08, 2012 at 10:33:48 from 69.131.141.92

Andrea - thanks, I think I am on the mend now.

Flat - yeah, feeling ok and running ok are not necessarily bound together after being sick I guess.

Burt - ok, I guess I only got passed by 4 or 5 but it felt like the entire town!

Neil - yeah pretty much 11 @ MP or better...can't complain about it as a workout

IJR - you're right, I forgot the money for the babysitter. It was over $100! But yeah, I had some decent runs a few weeks ago so this is probably nothing to sweat about.

Jake - I think next time the kids get sick I will just pen them up outside to quarantine them. Don't call social services, ok?

From allie on Mon, Oct 08, 2012 at 12:50:23 from 161.38.218.168

sorry about the tough race -- illness can take some time to bounce back from and racing puts quite a strain on your body. as mentioned above, you still got a good workout in (even though it probably felt terrible). rest up and you'll bounce back. the fitness is there.

From seeaprilrun on Mon, Oct 08, 2012 at 13:53:56 from 68.102.158.169

well. beats my half marathon pr. :) You've had a lot of great mileage and consistency, definitely blame it on illness! I totally agree with everything Allie just said.

From Kelli on Mon, Oct 08, 2012 at 16:07:29 from 67.172.235.55

We all know it is NOT that you are in terrible shape! Hope you are feeling better soon, forget about the darn $75!

From joebell1981 on Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 13:23:49 from 108.59.48.1

Def. due to illness, Joe. Don't sweat it. Good race up to the end. A similar thing happened to me in Geist Half this year. On pace for a PR and then my body remembered that I had been sick the days before... sucks, sry to hear it happened to you.

From Jason D on Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 22:15:23 from 24.1.80.94

You got in some miles at a bit faster than marathon pace, Joe. Your medium longs and longs have been 30ish seconds slower than this pace, so its not a matter of fitness. You've got a few weeks. Keep a respirator handy in case the kiddos are struck by illness again.

From DaleG on Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 22:34:57 from 152.216.11.5

Oh man, what a bummer. I know the feeling of getting passed at the end all too well. About 200 or 300 people passed me the last 6 miles of the St. George Marathon and there was nothing I could do about it. But we all know you're in terrific shape. You'll do better at the next one.

From SlowJoe on Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 07:35:29 from 155.219.241.10

allie - thanks, sometimes I have a hard time looking at the big picture

april - illness it is. gotta put the blame somewhere other than with myself.

kelli - tough to be a cheap runner!

joe - sounds like about what happened to me - felt like the right pace until about halfway into it.

jason - definitely a good workout, if nothing else.

dale - it's a terrible feeling, isn't it! congrats on finishing though.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
0.000.000.00

Decided no run today, going for some overall recovery.  Still have a lingering sore throat but it's almost gone.  I think I probably had some kind of infection, looking back, since it took 11+ days to go away.

But now what to do?  4 weeks of training, then 2 weeks of taper until the full (maybe 1 taper week is all I will need now?)  Do I pile up the miles real quick?  Do I take it easy for a week, then do a bunch of speed work and tempos?  Seriously, I'm asking...

Weight: 0.00
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From Jake K on Mon, Oct 08, 2012 at 10:38:04 from 155.100.226.191

Here's my two cents, for what its worth...

Don't worry about getting up to "peak" mileage - shoot for what your average mileage has been over the past 2 months or so... about 60-65 mpw. That's a volume you can handle w/out risking breaking down (hopefully). 3 weeks at that level, then a 7-8 day taper.

Stay away from the true speed work. Its just going to teach your muscles to use fuel inefficiently, and that will be bad news about 2 hours into the marathon. Run tempos at marathon pace. Resist the urge to go much faster. Work on getting your legs dialed into the pace you'll be targeting. Figure out how to run it w/out even looking at your watch.

I'd do one more good long run 3 weeks out, then a longer tempo run 2 weeks out (that will end up being a "medium long run" w/ warmup and cooldown).

From SlowJoe on Mon, Oct 08, 2012 at 11:50:26 from 69.131.141.92

Good stuff Jake, thanks, that is what I will do. I get what you are saying about possibly breaking down on the original peak mileage I had planned, and I wouldn't have thought about that side effect of speed work, but it makes sense. That was definitely worth more than 2 cents!

From Rye on Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 04:40:43 from 174.19.104.97

I'm with you on the illness. 11 days seems like an eternity when your not feeling good.

From Jody on Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 19:10:09 from 70.196.3.170

IJR directed me over here and I am so grateful.

Jake - thanks for the great advice, just what I am looking for.

Slowjoe - glad you are starting to feel better. Best of luck!

From Jason D on Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 22:30:25 from 24.1.80.94

Looks like Jake has you covered. Speed work does seem like a bad idea (strides if you feel like spinning your tires). A spike in mileage could leave you injured and fatigued.

I wonder if folks taper too much and too early, but I don't have any support for this (neither research nor experience).

From SlowJoe on Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 07:38:17 from 155.219.241.10

Rye - hope you are starting to feel better as well.

Jody - thanks, and good luck at the MCM, should be awesome!

Jason - I definitely tapered too much last marathon; felt myself peak about a 7-10 days early so I won't be doing that again...

From flatlander on Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 08:56:51 from 76.31.26.153

Glad I came here, Jake's advice seems right on. I am supposed to start my taper in two weeks, but I think I am going to keep going with the MP miles until 7 to 10 days out, that makes so much more sense for me based on how I have felt in past marathons.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.040.008.04

49F, SSE 10 mph.  8.04 miles in an 8:04 AP.  This....means.....something....

Legs felt cranky and a little sore today.  More recovery is probably needed.

Kinvara 1 - Blk/orange Miles: 8.04
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Tue, Oct 09, 2012 at 08:29:57 from 67.79.11.242

That's a little spooky...you know Halloween is just around the corner :-(

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.000.008.00

55F, NNE 15 mph.  8:09 AP.  Still feel like a dead man running.  I don't think I've ever been crushed this bad by a half marathon.  Guess this is a recovery week.

Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 8.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From flatlander on Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 08:57:48 from 76.31.26.153

I wouldn't even think twice about it, I'm sure you will be fine. You are recovering from an illness and from a tough race, no worries.

From Rye on Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 20:40:06 from 65.129.87.175

Recovery time should be with a Coke made with cane sugar not with high fructose corn syrup. Try it you'll like it.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.060.008.06

61F, 85%.  7:59 AP.  Finally broke the 8-minute guy.  Still not feeling too spry though.

Fastwich Miles: 8.06
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Bec on Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 07:25:09 from 70.115.203.100

:/ Feel better soon Joe. You have a lot of miles for the week already, that's great.

From Jason D on Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 09:34:39 from 24.1.80.94

Took me 3 miles to catch 9-minute guy today :)

From I Just Run on Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 09:57:25 from 67.79.11.242

Doesn't that .01 make you feel so much better :-)

From Rye on Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 16:06:58 from 65.129.87.175

Spry is overrated.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
4.860.004.86

70F, 93%.  8:13 AP.  I couldn't even do my 8 easy miles today, turned around early.  I think trying to run that race, with strep throat or whatever, broke me down.  I can almost pinpoint when it happened in the race.  Just feel exhausted at any pace ever since then, and I should be recovered by now.

Kinvaras Miles: 4.86
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Bec on Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 06:26:00 from 70.115.203.100

Here is the plan: Go get some rest!!!! You are crazy to run through your sickness. I hope it clears up soon.

From Daniel Brunson on Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 06:38:58 from 68.14.174.169

I'm sure you'll be recovered soon Joe. Maybe a little bit of rest will be just what you need.

From Jake K on Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 08:52:11 from 155.100.226.191

Sounds like that race broke you down pretty bad. The good news is that the less than ideal performance wasn't due to lack of fitness - you were sick! But now you need to get out of the recovery hole... for some reason I thought your marathon was early Nov... but you've got time until the 18th... so don't panic. Just focus on feeling better, and you'll still have time to get in a couple more weeks of good running before the race.

From SlowJoe on Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 11:57:32 from 155.219.241.10

Bec/DB - thanks, I plan to rest up this weekend for sure

Jake - I was just thinking the only bright spot is that I know there was definitely something wrong with me in the race. Definitely going to be a low-key weekend, running-wise.

From Bec on Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 13:02:40 from 70.115.203.100

Not to sounds mean or anything but maybe it is good you didn't run today. Get better so you can get back to running up to speed again.

From flatlander on Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 13:10:19 from 198.207.244.102

I wouldn't even know how to go about finding one, but might not hurt to check in at a good doctor's office somewhere. Good luck whatever you decide, and definitely sit back for a few days.

From SlowJoe on Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 15:18:09 from 69.131.141.92

Bec - yeah, I fought the urge and decided to sit today out

flat - the illness is completely gone, so it's down to a running problem. A few more easy days to start next week and then I'll see if that did anything

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
0.000.000.00

 

Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.040.005.04

61F, 8:25 AP. Did a short, easy run before church. Can't tell too much from a recovery pace, except on the uphills I think I felt better. Probably will do about the same thing tomorrow and then start testing the waters a little more.

**put this on the wrong day - Sunday is correct

1150s Red #1 Miles: 5.04
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 08:22:48 from 67.79.11.242

Didn't know there were any uphills in Oklahoma, I thought it was flatter than Abilene!

How about those Sooners :-)

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.050.006.05

54F, 8:14 AP.  Felt pretty good the last mile or two.  I'll add a couple miles for tomorrow.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 6.05
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 08:23:23 from 67.79.11.242

Good to see you're finally feeling better! Nice weather!!!

From Rye on Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 15:23:27 from 75.174.49.224

Nice weather ???? Ya, 54 was the high today.

From flatlander on Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 07:06:14 from 76.31.26.153

On the upswing again, good.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.060.008.06

57F, 7:38 AP.  Ok, better.  Felt a little breathy, if that makes sense, but no more broken-down feeling.  The out-of-breath feeling should go away in a few days as I get back in shape.  I'll probably do a couple more easy aerobic runs, then maybe some MP on Friday if that all goes ok.  whew.

Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 8.06
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 08:31:21 from 67.79.11.242

Yeah...you're back!

From Jason D on Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 12:30:52 from 24.1.80.94

Looks like 8-minute guy isn't breathing down your neck! Breathy is far better than body-is-being-dragged feeling. Could be the air too. The fall air feels great but I feel like a snotty little kid.

From Bec on Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 06:00:23 from 70.115.203.100

Sounds like you are getting back to it! Your pace looks awesome for feeling "out of breath." You will be back in the saddle in no time.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
11.190.0011.19

63F, 88%, SSW 13-17 mph.  7:50 AP.  Two steps back today, felt really sluggish.  Worked my way down to 7:40 pace or so and could not even hold it.  Finished up with an 8:20 mile and a side stitch (from going so fast I guess).  Hmm, I don't know.  Feels like this cycle (and sub-3) is slipping away from me.  I'm supposed to be running 26.2 miles at 6:50 pace in 1 month.  Other than not being able to run, everything feels fine -- I'm not getting any less sleep than usual, eating is normal, no high-stress stuff at work, etc.

I think I will still try an MP run on Friday.  Just 6 miles, I think.  If I can't do 6 @ MP, I kinda need to know that.  Then we'll see what to do.  I paid for the marathon already, so I'm going, even if I have to run 3:30.

Kinvara 1 - Blk/orange Miles: 11.19
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Andrea on Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 07:34:26 from 67.177.11.154

Sorry for the lingering sluggish feeling. My only recommendations are to drink a lot (w/ Emergen-C or similar) and think about getting your iron/ferritin levels checked. Hopefully your body will snap out of it soon!

From I Just Run on Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 09:08:39 from 67.79.11.242

Hey....What's wrong with a 3:30 marathon...? I was pretty proud of mine :-)

Maybe do some interval training like some fast 400's to kick-start your muscles. I always feel better after I run some shorter, faster distances.

From derhammer on Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 16:48:46 from 70.113.106.189

I have felt the exact same thing. I remember my long run a week before my 3:02 and I couldn't even hold a 7:00 pace for a few miles. Not confidence inspiring to say the least. The body works in strange ways. I say you will be ready when the day comes, and don't stress about it at this point.

From SlowJoe on Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 19:48:31 from 69.131.141.92

Thanks for the suggestions all. Maybe I can pull out a buzzer beater.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.050.006.05

47F, 8:36 AP.  Nice and cool outside.  Will try 6 @ MP tomorrow.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.05
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From allie on Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 06:48:20 from 161.38.218.168

nice. and cool.

good luck tomorrow. you'll do it.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.416.0012.41

48F, 7:18 AP.  I ran the last 6 at MP: 6:49, 6:48, 6:44, 6:43, 6:50, 6:47.  6:47 AP overall.  Good news/bad news kind of day.

The good news is that I accomplished my goal of going under GMP every mile split.

The bad news is it felt terrible.  Pretty uncomfortable the last 2 miles.

The good news is my AP was a good 5 seconds under what I need for sub-3.

The bad news is that it was for less than a quarter of a marathon.

The good news is that I have not even attempted sub-7 in a couple weeks, so there is bound to be some rust.

The bad news is that a month or two ago, I ran this same 6-mile stretch in 6:30 AP and it felt about the same effort.

So in conclusion, the bad news is that I am still not where I need to be but the good news is that I have 4 weeks to get there.

Saucony A4 Miles: 12.41
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 07:54:01 from 67.79.11.242

Let's title this:

"The battle of a Runner's Mind"

From Jake K on Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 09:24:22 from 155.100.226.191

Focus on the good news.

Your body has been out of whack a bit lately, it'll come back around.

From Rye on Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 10:24:48 from 65.129.81.170

I echo IJR..... funny what goes on in our heads.

From Jason D on Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 12:10:32 from 24.1.80.94

Put me down for good news. It's amazing what the body can do in a short time, and remember that you have run 2 marathons? with a good deal of miles at this pace.

From Burt on Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 12:26:45 from 71.216.109.214

I like that movie the Bad News Bears.

I got a Harley Davidson. Does that turn you on? Harley Davidson?

From Rye on Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 13:18:44 from 65.129.81.170

Burt.....do you ride a Harley? If you do, what do you ride? I own a 03'Sportster. Sorry Joe...

From Burt on Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 14:40:34 from 71.216.109.214

No Rye. But kudos for you for living the mid-life crisis dream.

http://www.hark.com/clips/sybvrqdcnb-i-got-a-harley-davidson

From DaleG on Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 19:41:52 from 152.216.3.5

You can do it, Joe!!!

From Dan on Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 10:26:16 from 24.209.83.20

Joe sub 3 is no easy feat, but after looking at your training I have no doubt this is a good day. You have the rest and now the fine tuning in these weeks to hit your goal.great job!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.050.006.05

53F, 8:08 AP.  Slept in a little and hopefully caught up on some sleep.  I actually ran during daylight hours - it was weird being able to see where I was going.  I liked it.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 6.05
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Rye on Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 20:26:55 from 71.220.155.32

Seeing is overrated.....a couple of years ago I ran along a sidewalk. As I ran across the driveway a 2 x 4 hit me across the forehead and dropped me on my back. It was in the bed of a truck sticking out and due to the limited light I didn't see it till it was too late.

From SlowJoe on Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 10:59:24 from 155.219.241.10

Rye - yikes - your story suggests seeing is UNDERrated! I live out in the country though...the biggest danger is stepping in a pothole, or loose dogs. Although the rabbits and other critters startle me sometimes when they dart into the bushes.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
15.160.0015.16

64F, 97%.  7:44 AP.  A little warm/humid, but I took it pretty easy anyway.  A nice shirtless run - probably won't have too many more of those.  Felt pretty decent; good enough to finish it off with a few strides.

So this finishes a 65 mile week.  I plan on just keeping the mileage there as opposed to going too crazy, and maybe that will be enough to snap me out of this slump in the next few weeks.

Fastwich Miles: 15.16
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 10:01:56 from 67.79.11.242

Good running...you're going to be ready!

From Kam on Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 12:12:07 from 68.66.163.179

How are things shaping up for your marathon next month? I just read your Jan. race report. Epic. You executed a perfect race. Are you looking to eke out a few more seconds per mile, or are you feeling ready to drop 5-10 minutes off that great PR?

From SlowJoe on Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 13:37:29 from 155.219.241.10

Kam - thanks - It's been a rough cycle, so I would be pretty lucky to eke out a few seconds per mile for the sub-3. Kinda been on a plateau since that Houston race.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
4.040.004.04

71F, 83%.  Forgot to look at AP, maybe 8:50's today, little slower than usual since I wasn't running long enough to get going.

Possible 5K this weekend....

1150s Red #1 Miles: 4.04
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From allie on Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 11:12:37 from 161.38.218.168

ooohhh, a 5k. those are fun.

From SlowJoe on Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 11:16:57 from 155.219.241.10

have you ever run a 5K, allie? I don't recall ever seeing you do one.

From allie on Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 11:18:05 from 161.38.218.168

not yet. running that far just doesn't appeal to me.

From seeaprilrun on Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 04:49:28 from 205.172.12.229

the 5k may break the perceived "slump" :)

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.070.008.07

68F, 98%.  7:54 AP.  Soupy morning slog.  Should have a couple more warm mornings, then it'll cool off for good.

It's almost time to retire my first pair of kinvaras (that I wore today).  At almost 700 miles, the upper is starting to pull away a lot, to where I can feel it while running.  Shame though, because the sole is still good.  Maybe I can tape it or something.  Maybe I'm being too cheap.

Kinvaras Miles: 8.07
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Jake K on Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 09:10:35 from 155.100.226.191

That's where they go - the upper rips. Its pretty good when you can get 700+ miles out of them, though. Just make sure you don't run on slippery surfaces once you get past that point... unless you like face-planting :-)

From SlowJoe on Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 11:41:21 from 155.219.241.10

Jake, I am definitely anti-face-plant. Suggestion noted.

From allie on Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 11:57:06 from 161.38.218.168

you are very kind to your shoes...my kinvaras just started to rip and they are only at 324.

From SlowJoe on Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 13:43:53 from 155.219.241.10

allie - that's because yours is an experimental/test pair. Aren't you wear testing the new Kinvara 17's?

From derhammer on Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 08:50:53 from 64.245.52.2

Still like the Kinvara 2's over the 3's - sole is definitely more flexible on the 2's - 700 miles is impressive.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
14.050.0014.05

66F, 96%.  7:48 AP.  Early morning slog - took a long time to get going, as it usually does when I start at 4am, but the last 7 or 8 miles went smoothly.  Just the fact that I have finished a 14 and 15 miler with some energy to spare in the past few days means I've made some gains from where I was a couple weeks ago.  Whether or not I can run fast remains to be seen.  I'm about to sign up for a 5k, so maybe that will give some indication.  Probably not much, since I haven't sniffed 5k pace in quite some time.

Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 14.05
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Jason D on Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 08:10:36 from 24.1.80.94

I've only run 3 5ks, but I've learned this year that a good aerobic base will take you a way in the 5k (assuming you aren't competing in the event on the track or to earn a living). I found that I ran 3 unprecedented miles, so I like the 5k for this reason; you don't have to spend much time training at that pace (or hardly any). And you don't need a PR, but I bet it will make marathon pace feel easy.

96% and 66 degrees is tough when you just start to get used to cooler, less humid air.

From Rye on Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 09:30:08 from 75.174.49.224

Man those are some muggy conditions. That's a good run for you. It is 29 degrees in Idaho Falls as I write this...... I'm not listening to any complaints!

From I Just Run on Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 10:06:47 from 67.79.11.242

Too hot, too humid, too cold...I'm glad I live in Texas :-)

Hope the 5K goes well, are you running it this weekend?

From SlowJoe on Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 13:47:03 from 155.219.241.10

Jason - yeah the hope is not really for a PR, but to feel normal while running harder

Rye - yeah, this is the time of year when I stop complaining about the weather. your turn...

IJR - thanks - yep, Saturday morning

From joebell1981 on Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 05:26:17 from 108.59.48.1

Good looking mileage and pace, Joe. Bet you smoke the 5k... :)

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.050.006.05

67F, 85%, 8:26 AP.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 6.05
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.000.005.00

39F, N 17 mph.  7:55 AP.  Yeah, I guess the cold front made it.  That wind had a nice little bite to it.  Just ran easy with some bouts at 5K pace.  Should still be nice and cool for the race tomorrow, which isn't until 10:30am.

Fastwich Miles: 5.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 10:00:41 from 67.79.11.242

Hope the wind dies down for the race. Good Luck!

From Rye on Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 11:06:31 from 75.174.49.224

I've run in colder..... but I would opt for a tm run with the wind coming out of the north like that. Good luck with the race.....

From Jason D on Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 13:37:41 from 24.1.80.94

Yep. Even though it isn't much colder than it was a week ago people looked they were ready for snow today. Good luck tomorrow, Joe.

From Dan on Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 08:48:42 from 24.209.83.20

Your race is right now. Run faster Joe!

Race: Lawton 5k (3.11 Miles) 00:19:25, Place overall: 5
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
1.653.144.79

40F, 6:11 AP.  Well, I thought maybe if I could at least break 19, I might be starting to return to normal, but....not so much.

5:51, 6:19, 6:23, :52 for 0.14 (6:00 pace).

First mile was net downhill, then slightly uphill for #2.  3 was level.  A few hills.  Once again, the pace felt right to start with, but then I died as usual.  It almost feels like I'm just out of shape.  Am I overtrained or undertrained?  This is confusing.

After this marathon (I've all but completely let go of any thoughts of sub-3), I think it's time for a break.  Maybe a few weeks off will help reset everything.  I'll just get nice and fat over Thanksgiving and take it easy.  Then I will figure out how to train for Boston.  I can't tell if maybe I just need to just start running a huge number of miles, or maybe just scale back and go to the track more.  I never did approach the mileage I ran this spring when I was at my fastest.  Anyway, something needs to change, I'm too young (in running years) to be on the decline already!

Saucony A5 Miles: 4.79
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Jason D on Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 19:58:55 from 24.1.80.94

I think it is important to consider the difference in mileage from where you were at in the spring from where you are now. The rest of your long runs and maybe a workout or two might be able to let you know where you should start for race day. Sometimes we surprise ourselves.

Like me you started running late and this should mean there's a good deal more improvement to come. I think we get spoiled in the early stages when every race is a PR (often a considerable one). If you haven't take a look at the thread on the discussion forum Rob started about running and aging. Great responses.

Chin up!

From Jake K on Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 20:35:00 from 67.41.164.189

You're not on the decline in the big scheme of things, this is just a blip. Although its a poorly timed blip. Hang in there... Maybe it will turn around still before the marathon. I don't think you've done anything wrong... I think that sickness just took a huge toll on you for some reason. Stay confident.

From flatlander on Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 07:48:54 from 76.31.26.153

I'm going into my marathon definitely slower than I was this spring, and possibly no faster than St. George last fall. I agree it might be miles for you. I think that is the case for me, although in my case it could actually be the calendar. I'm going to apply for a new birth certificate.

From Daniel Brunson on Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 09:54:30 from 68.14.174.169

There's no way your on the decline Joe. Maybe it's some combination of mileage and having been sick. I also think there is validity to the point of how long you have been running. I've seen gradual and slow progression in my race times and in my own running over the years since I began to focus on training year round.

From SlowJoe on Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 13:57:52 from 69.131.141.92

Thanks for the comments everyone, good stuff. I guess it is a bit too early to push the panic button. The things that go through your mind when you're struggling...

From joebell1981 on Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 17:59:41 from 99.39.133.24

This is not a big deal, Joe. 5k performance for me has not been a accurate indicator of marathon performance - Your training has been for marathon. I'm in a similar boat (slower times in recent 5k's than expected) I wouldn't let it worry you - its apples and oranges.

The guys in this local race series that do all these 5k's (and only these shorter races) and consistently run faster, discuss their training with me - it sounds vastly different from what we do. By that, I mean - much less miles - consistently faster. After today's race, one guy talked about his agonizing weekly 10 milers (long runs) after smoking me by 10 seconds. :)

From seeaprilrun on Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 20:56:18 from 68.102.130.53

Joe. My vote is just scale back and rest from here to the marathon. A little rest can do wonders, I am seeing this now. And, a note, my 5k pr was a lousy 19:23 when I broke 3(barely, and yes, an aided course), but still, sub-3 is sooo not off the table yet!!!@

From SlowJoe on Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 08:29:01 from 155.219.241.10

Joe/April - thanks for the encouraging words, and you're right that a 5K doesn't mean much in terms of a FM. Unfortunately I ran about a minute faster in the 5k right before my marathon PR. Still, you never know...my last MP run will provide a lot of info, I think.

From I Just Run on Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 13:42:16 from 67.79.11.242

somehow I missed this race report :-(

I think you must have gotton out of bed wrong side of the bed this day.

From derhammer on Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 14:07:14 from 64.245.52.2

Could be a lot of factors - I have seen your tempo miles as fast as miles 2 and 3 here. Don't discount inadequate rest/sleep/recovery or mental stress of any type.

I wouldn't worry about it. 10k race or half marathon (or even good MPG run) is a much better indicator of marathon performance anyway.

I second April's recommendation. Take the recovery days very easy.

As a side note, I am becoming a big believer in periodization. How that all translates into my next marathon is yet to be seen, though.

From SlowJoe on Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 18:17:31 from 69.131.141.92

IJR - I think I got out of bed upside down.

dh - thanks for the words - there will definitely be some re-evaluation of training after Tulsa, depending on how it goes

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
22.000.0022.00

32F, 7:31 AP.  Nice long run in the morning before 8:30 church.  Only one mass time in our small town, so had to get out the door by 5am to make sure I made it back in time.  Kinda chilly....I need new gloves.

I ran comfortably the whole way with the usual negative split (1:24, 1:21), and eveything seemed fine.  One of these days I will do an ultra.  Sometimes I wonder if that is the way to go for me.  Having never run until the age of 30, I missed the window for developing any kind of speed, but at a more moderate pace it feels like I could run forever.

Anyway, that was the last long run before Tulsa.  I do love a nice Sunday morning run.  I'm still training in earnest, and will do what I can to PR.  I'll do the last MP workout Friday or Sunday this coming week.  That should be pretty telling as to how I should run the race.  My gut tells me to expect 3:05 - 3:08 but I guess you never know.

Kinvara 1 - Blk/orange Miles: 22.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From derhammer on Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 10:18:44 from 70.113.106.189

Great run, though I call BS on the speed comment - you are never too old to develop speed, IMO! :-))

Wow - can't believe your race is almost here! At least you should have some nice and cold weather.

From Matt Schreiber on Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 10:25:44 from 66.17.102.185

Nice LR. Good luck in Tulsa!

From allie on Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 10:38:16 from 97.117.83.179

what a great start to the day. nice job, joe.

From I Just Run on Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 12:31:14 from 166.147.72.28

I wish you hadn't made that comment about speed, I think I'll just quit now :-(

From Jason D on Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 13:03:12 from 24.1.80.94

Good stuff, Joe. A better indication than yesterday's race overall. Looks like the pace groups are a bit limited for your marathon, which stinks because you could sit with a group and go up or down depending on effort.

From joebell1981 on Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 17:49:24 from 99.39.133.24

Nice workout, Joe. Don't sell yourself short - I suspect you will run much faster than 3:05.

From Jon on Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 20:48:00 from 107.203.52.135

Definitely do an ultra! Or a few- they're great.

From Rye on Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 11:51:37 from 75.174.49.224

That's a great long run Joe. Keep smiling:)

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
4.030.004.03

61F, 8:22 AP.  Short PM run today, I decided to get max sleep last night, which was awesome.  Taking it easy this week, then probably some MP work on Friday.  Usually, I actually look forward to those runs.  Usually....

1150s Red #1 Miles: 4.03
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From derhammer on Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 15:39:20 from 64.245.52.2

Nice, it's good to see you taking some recovery time.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.040.008.04

41F, 7:57 AP.  The full moon was actually a big help today.  I could see the potholes right before I stepped in them, instead of not at all.  It is almost 8am by the time the sun rises now.  Ridiculous.

Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 8.04
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 07:55:38 from 67.79.11.242

I'm ready for the time change. I don't like always running in the dark. Hope you feel you're getting back to speed!

From Jason D on Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 12:08:51 from 24.1.80.94

I predict an extra hour soon enough!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
10.040.0010.04

50F, NNW 10 mph.  7:46 AP.  Easy with some strides in the last couple miles.  The strides felt pretty good, I don't know why I don't do more of them.

Fastwich Miles: 10.04
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.080.006.08

50F.  Forgot the pace, 8:20's I think.  Kinda lethargic today, but still going for 10-12 @ MP tomorrow.  It's going to be tough, to say the least, but hopefully give me an idea of what I'll be able to do in a couple weeks.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 6.08
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Thu, Nov 01, 2012 at 15:53:34 from 67.79.11.242

I know you're not me, and I'm not you but I ran 13 miles a week and a half before the half marathon on Saturday. The pace on the practice run was 8:29 and I felt terrible during and all day after the run. I ran 7:08 at the race and felt great during and after the run. I think you will suprise yourself and do great!

From allie on Thu, Nov 01, 2012 at 19:06:17 from 97.117.87.157

good luck tomorrow.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
4.5810.0014.58

57F, 7:06 AP.  Ok, not bad, not bad.  I am slowly but surely climbing out of this slump, and the timing is good.  I did 4 easy, then 10 @ MP, followed by a short cooldown.

The 10 MP miles were 6:46 AP.  Splits were 6:46, 6:39, 6:44, 6:47, 6:41, 6:40, 6:49, 6:57, 6:46, 6:49.

Did it feel like my true MP?  Nah, probably not.  A little too much fatigue in the last 2 or 3 miles.  But the fact that I could still execute the run shows improvement even from a week or two ago, so there is hope of returning to normal by the race, which means it's not quite time to throw in the towel on sub-3.

The course I ended up running was neutral, actually about 15' net uphill.  Normally I like a slightly aided course for this kind of run but the wind direction meant it could not be set up that way today.  Plus the darkness, and not entirely cool weather, could factor into making it tougher today.  So there are a lot of bright spots.

Saucony A5 Miles: 14.58
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Jake K on Fri, Nov 02, 2012 at 08:32:46 from 155.100.226.191

Hey I think the tide has turned, that's a good workout!!

From Jason D on Fri, Nov 02, 2012 at 08:43:03 from 24.1.80.94

Back in business, Joe. I think those last miles should feel hard but not impossible. If they don't, you are probably too rested, running too slow, or maybe it is just your day.

You have an excellent come back week here. Miles are up, long run to start the week, nice workout toward the end, and a chance to fit in a couple miles tomorrow to bump up your total.

From Andrea on Fri, Nov 02, 2012 at 08:44:25 from 72.37.171.52

Great workout!! You are definitely on the upswing from illness slump. 10 miles at MP always feels really difficult the last couple miles.

From I Just Run on Fri, Nov 02, 2012 at 15:50:19 from 67.79.11.242

I knew you were still Superman!

From SlowJoe on Fri, Nov 02, 2012 at 17:36:16 from 69.131.141.92

Thanks all, cautiously optimistic for once.

Andrea - I have actually been focusing on iron intake since you mentioned ferritin levels a couple weeks ago. Not sure if that was really it (I'm too cheap/lazy to actually get a test) but from what I've read on symptoms, indicators, etc, it's a good possibility. If I PR, I'll buy you a pony or something.

From Jake K on Fri, Nov 02, 2012 at 17:42:41 from 67.177.11.154

I'd be so happy if you bought her a pony!

From flatlander on Sat, Nov 03, 2012 at 13:46:25 from 76.31.26.153

Those 10 look really nice, very tightly bunched on the pacing. I think that shows control, which indicates that you are not running over your head at all. This is very exciting.

From allie on Sun, Nov 04, 2012 at 10:47:33 from 97.117.94.98

excellent run.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.100.006.10

58F, NNE 18 mph.  8:18 AP.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.10
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
15.180.0015.18

45F, N 10 mph.  7:26 AP.  I didn't want to do a full-up long run with the hard effort 2 days ago, so I settled on my favorite 15-mile loop.  A little faster than I intended, but the legs were ready to go today.

I think I am finally ready to start training for a marathon!  Maybe if I called the RD, they could move the race back a month or two?  But then I'd probably have to buy him/her a pony too, and I'm not made of ponies.

Kinvara 1 - Blk/orange Miles: 15.18
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From allie on Sun, Nov 04, 2012 at 10:46:25 from 97.117.94.98

i have some ponies i would be willing to sell. meet me at the burger king just off the bailey turnpike.

nice running, joe.

From SlowJoe on Sun, Nov 04, 2012 at 15:05:29 from 69.131.141.92

Are they pure Columbian ponies? Otherwise, no deal.

From allie on Sun, Nov 04, 2012 at 15:21:10 from 97.117.94.98

they are dwarf mares.

From ACorn on Sun, Nov 04, 2012 at 19:17:54 from 24.2.76.146

Nice 15 at a respectable pace. RDs are pushovers, shouldn't be a problem ;)

From I Just Run on Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 13:20:20 from 67.79.11.242

I've got a free pony (well, it's actually a full grown horse) you can have...!!!

Nice to see you're back to speed Superman!

From allie on Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 13:22:28 from 97.117.94.98

"i've got a free pony you can have..."

classic con. classic con.

From SlowJoe on Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 17:58:22 from 69.131.141.92

allie - sorry, you'll have to sell your ponies to Burger King. Pretty sure they will be used in the chicken nuggets.

Acorn - thanks, i'll give it a shot

IJR - thanks...allie says you're trying to con me though. I'm guessing the horse has IBS?

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.030.006.03

52F, 8:24 AP.  Miles are only scaled back a little this week - this will be more like a 9-day taper since my mileage never got too high.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 6.03
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.060.008.06

39F, 7:31 AP.  Easy with strides/sprints in the last couple miles.

Fastwich Miles: 8.06
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.040.006.04

41F, 8:16 AP.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.04
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Rye on Wed, Nov 07, 2012 at 09:18:12 from 75.174.42.166

I'm speechless.

From I Just Run on Wed, Nov 07, 2012 at 10:03:36 from 67.79.11.242

LOL

From SlowJoe on Wed, Nov 07, 2012 at 10:31:43 from 155.219.241.10

My mom used to tell us that if you didn't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
4.116.2010.31

51F, SSE 11 mph.  7:09 AP.  Last hard workout, 10 days out.  I copied the one Jake did before his last marathon, 10K @ MP.  I figured he won the race with that, so I should do no worse than 1st place, right?

5K easy, then 10K in 41:21 (6:40 AP).  Then a 1 mile cool down.

The AP on the 10k was a little skewed as I finished with a 6:21 mile.

The last .2 was uphill, and I ran it hard, then almost puked.  I have never been one to puke even after my hardest efforts, but my daughter got sick (threw up) yesterday so I guess I might be next.  That elementary school is apparently just a giant petri dish for all kind of diseases.  Hopefully it will just come and go; she is already feeling better this morning.

Saucony A4 Miles: 10.31
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Thu, Nov 08, 2012 at 08:33:30 from 67.79.11.242

Good last hard workout! If this works for you I'm all over this run before my next marathon. I know you will do well in the race, I'm just hoping for perfect weather for you. Now quit talking about sickness!!!

From Ken Bess on Thu, Nov 08, 2012 at 10:30:31 from 174.52.148.34

Nice effort. 10 days out seems like a good place for the last key workout, I'm going to keep that in mind for myself.

From joebell1981 on Thu, Nov 08, 2012 at 11:27:59 from 108.59.48.1

Good solid run, Joe. You like primed for a PR. Being a little sick will help with the taper/taper wt. ... :)

From Jason D on Thu, Nov 08, 2012 at 14:31:40 from 24.1.80.94

Great final workout, Joe. I almost lost my cookies at the end of a wave run several weeks ago. It sometimes happens even when the pace isn't super hard, but just when you push it in the final stretch.

Looks like you snapped back into things quickly even though I bet it doesn't feel that way. I'll be cheering you on, as I sit around putting on the pounds.

From Bam on Thu, Nov 08, 2012 at 14:40:07 from 89.204.255.43

Nice final workout, Joe. Everythiong's looking good. Relax and enjoy the taper.

From SlowJoe on Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 09:24:52 from 69.131.141.92

Thanks all. It didn't feel too smooth or crisp like you would want, but I'll take it. I think I've done all I can do, and will just run by feel for the race and see what the legs are willing to give me. Definitely looking forward to it.

From Rye on Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 07:21:27 from 75.174.40.216

Pressing through difficult times produces macho men. Hope you can avoid the stomach garb. Last time I had it I was heaving so bad that I thought I might see my toe nails in the great porcelain potty.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

67F, S 20-27 mph.  Got the day off today, so a rare opportunity to run with Danielle, after we dropped the kids off at school!  It was a bit windy though.  At some points I was yelling and she still couldn't hear me over the wind.  At least that's what she said....hmm....

1150s Red #2 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Rye on Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 20:21:42 from 65.129.76.134

Sounds familiar....Welcome to marriage bliss...

From derhammer on Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 08:44:41 from 70.113.106.189

Wow - it's usually the man that ignores the woman... nice turn of events. LOL.

From allie on Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 13:42:28 from 97.117.94.98

he he...the classic "the wind was too noisy" trick. i use it all the time.

From SlowJoe on Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 13:48:56 from 69.131.141.92

Was the wind the reason why she wasn't laughing at any of my hilarious jokes either? I mean they were all extremely funny, so it must have been the wind.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.130.006.13

8:13 AP

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.13
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
10.150.0010.15

72F, S 21-30 mph.  7:50 AP.  In McKinney, TX for my cousin's wedding last night.  I ran from the hotel room.  Planned on 13 but by the the time I got done wandering around and back to the hotel, I only had 10 or so...meh...oh well.  Kinda hot and sticky down there, but we are back in OK now and it's 30 degrees colder as the front just blew through.

Looking like pretty good weather for Tulsa next Sunday so far.

Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 10.15
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Matt Schreiber on Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 15:23:34 from 66.17.102.185

A tad windy down there. Nice job.

From Bec on Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 19:28:07 from 71.195.240.22

Nice job in ol' Texas. :) Sounds cold in OK.

Good luck at your marathon next week!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.120.005.12

52F, 7:52 AP.  Had the day off, so I got to sleep in a little and run in the afternoon.  Saved me from the sub-30 morning we had...super-extreme cold huh?  Especially next to those snowstorms/blizzards everyone else has...

Pretty easy week lined up obviousy - 7 w/strides tomorrow, 8 w/3MP on Wednesday, 5 easy on Thurs, no run Friday, shakeout Saturday, race Sunday.

So fat it's looking like no-excuse weather: 43 to start, 55 to finish, 7-8 mph wind.  Going to have to buckle down and really brainstorm some other excuses if the forecast holds true.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 5.12
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Ken Bess on Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 14:18:46 from 174.52.148.34

Taper week is the best/worst! Lots of time to take it easy .... and lots of time to question everything. Don't let taper week get the best of you, you've put in the hard miles and you're going to do great.

From Jason D on Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 16:49:50 from 24.1.80.94

The weather sound s great and you will run well, but if you are looking for excuses, blame it on Camille Herron, who will be running dressed as Spider Woman.

From SlowJoe on Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 17:25:55 from 69.131.141.92

Ken - thanks for the vote of confidence

Jason - I saw that...I am undoubtedly going to get crushed in a race by a lady in a full-body costume. that'll be a nice boost to my self-confidence when spiderwoman drops me in mile 1.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
7.060.007.06

30F, 7:26 AP.  Easy + strides.  Tough to make myself leave the house when it's cold out, but my legs love the chilly weather...felt pretty smooth out there today.  Might have been the taper starting to kick in as well.

Fastwich Miles: 7.06
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Ken Bess on Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 17:52:04 from 174.52.148.34

I hear that, I have a difficult time getting myself out the door in the cold as well. It's really nice once I've warmed up though, I love being able to run hard and not be soaked in sweat.

Sounds like the taper is going well, I'm looking forward to reading your race report.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.003.008.00

33F, 7:17 AP.  5 easy, then 3 @ MP.  Felt ok, not too bad.

Plan for the race is to run conservatively, at least initially, but stay within striking distance of sub-3.  Hopefully by halfway, I will know if it's going to be my day or not.  I haven't had a single run that really indicates to me that I am ready for sub-3, but you never know...

Saucony A4 Miles: 8.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Jake K on Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 08:53:05 from 155.100.226.191

That's a good plan - stay w/in striking distance of the goal, but don't risk blowing up early.

You never know!!

From allie on Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 14:22:38 from 161.38.218.168

you'll get it.

From Jason D on Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 14:23:34 from 24.1.80.94

Good plan, Joe. The reverse can happen (indications say yes, race says no), so why not the opposite? I'm set up for tracking, so be aware you are being watched!

From allie on Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 14:24:32 from 161.38.218.168

also, be on the lookout for spiderman woman.

From ACorn on Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 16:04:13 from 24.2.76.146

Good luck slowjoe!

From SlowJoe on Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 17:59:31 from 69.131.141.92

Jake - definitely going for comfort this time... you know, until I change my mind and gameplan mid-race

Jason - I'll run extra fast for you. usually i'm surprised about how slow I am going, so it would be nice to get the opposite surprise.

allie - I've been outrun by all kinds of men, women and children, but this will be the first spiderwoman. at least she won't be pushing a stroller while in the costume.

acorn - thanks man!

From Rye on Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 22:14:02 from 71.220.180.142

Race day magic.....Good luck and remember to have fun.

From Ken Bess on Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 22:48:04 from 174.52.148.34

That's the race plan that I usually try to follow as well. I like it!

From seeaprilrun on Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 00:30:11 from 205.172.12.229

i will be runner stalking on race day as well

From derhammer on Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 09:14:45 from 64.245.52.2

The weather looks OK - prob high 40's to start - and it looks like there will be cloud cover - a huge bonus.

What's the course like?

From SlowJoe on Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 11:06:23 from 155.219.241.10

Rye - fun is the key word...not sure there's enough "magic" out there for me

Ken - beats my usual plan of running too hard and being miserable later

April - just stop watching at about 20 miles, ok?

dh - definitely looks cool enough, although seems to be getting more windy everytime I look. the course is basically 2 different loops - looks moderately hilly, but not too bad. lots of twists and turns. Although you never can tell hilliness very well from those charts anyway.

From SlowJoe on Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 11:08:03 from 155.219.241.10

By the way, I just ate at Whataburger for lunch, and my number was 26. So maybe I will be ok.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
4.001.005.00

60F, 7:45 AP.  Ran after work to maximize sleep this morning.  Easy run, with 2 x 0.5 @ MP on the way back home.  I tried to pace the second one without looking at garmin and it was 6:36 pace.  I think the lesson is to not get carried away early on.  I don't need to be splitting the first 10k in 41 like I did at OKC...

Kinvaras Miles: 5.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Ken Bess on Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 17:03:18 from 174.52.148.34

Sleep is great isn't it! I slept 10 hours last night, it was awesome. I felt fantastic this morning.

6:36 on effort sounds like a good indication that you're in sub 3 hour shape ;-)

From Jake K on Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 19:01:55 from 67.177.11.154

The marathon gives you plenty of time to make up for a conservative start.

Good luck this weekend Joe! We're rooting for you!!!

From allie on Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 19:08:01 from 71.213.51.40

go joe!

From Neil on Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 10:44:19 from 164.165.24.5

Good luck Joe!

From derhammer on Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 17:32:11 from 70.113.106.189

Good luck! Run relaxed and let the race come to you!

From Ken Bess on Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 00:26:15 from 174.52.148.34

Good luck out there Joe!

From SlowJoe on Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 10:34:34 from 69.131.141.92

thanks everyone

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
2.500.002.50

55F.  A little shakeout before I drive to Tulsa, no watch.  Will post a race report tomorrow evening...

Fastwich Miles: 2.50
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From flatlander on Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 14:58:13 from 76.31.26.153

Good luck tomorrow

From Dan on Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 16:03:20 from 24.209.83.20

Go get em Joe! I have been away, but have your race marked!

From derhammer on Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 12:46:06 from 166.147.72.153

PLEASE tell me your chip time was 9 seconds faster than what is showing up under results!! Even still, fantastic time!!!!!!!

From Dan on Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 13:31:01 from 24.209.83.20

Maybe even 8.01 seconds faster- but obviously a heck of a race!

From SlowJoe on Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 15:07:11 from 69.131.141.92

thanks guys, no it is true. missed it by 9 seconds. I don't know whether to laugh or cry!

Race: Tulsa Route 66 Marathon (26.22 Miles) 03:00:08, Place overall: 18, Place in age division: 4
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
0.0026.3026.30

I don't know how to start this report, so i'll just get into the details.

Weather - Start - 44F.  Finish 54F, S 12 mph.

Pre race - Mexican for dinner.  Early to the start line to meet Daniel, the only other blogger from Oklahoma.  I think that's 6 bloggers I've met now.  Daniel is a great guy, really friendly, and ran a big PR today so go congratulate him!  We got up a few rows back from the starting line and were off right on time.

The course - Basically a 2-loop course.  The first with the half-marathoners, to the south of downtown, and the second loop is to the north and east - just the marathoners obviously.  Definitely the hilliest course I've run, hillier than OKC.  So maybe not the best for a PR, as I had been warned, but not too unreasonable either.

Miles 1-5 - 6:46, 6:50, 6:43, 6:45, 6:51.  Daniel and I ran the first 2 miles together; a little faster that I was going to run, but basically on pace for 3 hours so no harm done.  Lots of ups and downs through this first 5 miles.  Everything was feeling good, way better than I was anticipating.  Lots of holding myself back.

Miles 6-10 - 6:42, 6:43, 6:48, 6:51, 6:54.  Ok, still feeling easy.  The course flattens out here as it starts to go along the river.  Split the 10k in 42:05, pretty reasonable.

Miles 11-15 - 6:41, 6:46, 6:46, 6:47, 6:54.  More flats from 11-13, nice and comfy.  Hit the half in 1:29:05, feeling really good.  I knew the second half was probably net uphill, so I was happy to have banked a minute.  After 13.5 or so, the course turns through downtown and we got some nice uphills.  I played it conservative on the ups, and stepped it out on the downs, which is what I usually do.

Miles 16-20 - 6:46, 6:52, 6:45, 7:15, 6:48.  I had to just kind of take what the hills gave me.  Mile 19 was one I had circled in my mind.  It goes due south, into the teeth of the wind, and climbs the entire time - just one long, stupid, hill.  I had been keeping track of where I stood against the 6:50 guy....pretty much 20-30 seconds ahead of him the whole time, but I gave it all back on 19.  Ok, no problem, still ahead of the 6:52 (sub-3) guy by about 40 seconds.

Miles 21-26.3 - 6:45, 6:52, 7:04, 7:05, 7:11, 7:08, 1:50 for 0.3 (6:08 pace).  So you can see where I lost it, right after 22.  The hills and the wind.  Ok, and my legs too.  At mile 20, I saw that I needed about a 43:10 on the last 10k.  That is sub-7 pace.  Why did it have to be so close?  I wanted to either be way behind or way ahead of sub-3, I did not want to have to fight for it.  But fight I did.  At mile 23, I saw I had about 22:30 left.  So still hanging on, and on pace.  But now the uphills were bringing me to a halt.  Mercifully the last few miles are net downhill, but everytime it went back uphill it felt like I was barely moving.  I felt my world slowing down - I was bonking, but still close.  My form was terrible and I was clomping loudly but still running as hard as possible.  Even so, I was mowing people down left and right.  I did not get passed by anyone, I don't think.  As I passed the mile 26 sign, the clock there said 2:58:50 or so.  Couldn't do the math.  Turned the corner and made a furious sprint.  I literally saw the finish line clock change from 2:59:59 to 3:00:00 and knew I had probably just missed it, based on where I was.  Crossed the line and yeah, I was about 10 sec slow by my watch.  3:00:08 officially.  6:51 AP on my watch, enough for sub-3, but oh, those pesky tangents, got me an extra tenth of a mile.

I don't know how to feel.  I mean my training was terrible.  It was the hardest course I've run.  But I still got a 1-minute PR.  After I crossed the finish line it was a mix of sadness, anger, happiness, disappointment, relief, and frusturation.  I can't even pick one.  Now that it's been a few hours, I'm just kinda "meh."  And if I had run 2:59:59, a completely arbitrary number as far as my body knows, I would probably be a lot happier.  Just to rub it in a little, I actually arrived back at home at 2:59pm, seriously.  But given all the circumstances, I will certainly take it.  It sucks that I will be a 3-hour marathoner for at least another 5 months, but just 1 month ago I could barely run an 8-minute pace so I guess I'm just glad I got back to normal.

Gonna take at least a week off and start ramping up (slowly) for Boston.  I need a gameplan.  I've kinda stalled out on my marathon progress at a most unfortunate place!

Thanks for reading everyone!

Saucony A5 Miles: 26.30
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Andrea on Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 15:25:41 from 67.177.11.154

Congrats Joe!!! A 1-minute PR is awesome...and with the struggles a month ago with sickness, it's great to see you perform so well. Totally understand how much the 8 seconds sucks, but you'll get it next year. Really happy for you! :)

From Jason D on Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 15:37:48 from 24.1.80.94

I watched your dot on my iPhone for the last few minutes, Joe. Before it readjusted it had you at 3:01-3:02, but then changed to the correct time. Your pacing is excellent as usual. You lost a bit of time at the end, but you didn't have any terrible miles from what I can see. Excellent work.

Sub-3 at Boston? Not a bad place to do it!

From Jake K on Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 15:39:29 from 67.177.11.154

"I've all but completely let go of any thoughts of sub-3"

That's what you wrote only 3 weeks ago. This was a tough last month or so for you... but man, you hung in there, kept plugging along, and ran a heck of a marathon today. You were right there for sub 3. All of us who have been a few seconds over those arbitrary/round time benchmarks know how much it stinks... but then when you step away from it a bit and think about it... is there really any true difference in ability between 3:00:08 and 2:59:59? Nope. You know you are capable of it now, and I think you'll knock it out of the park in Boston next spring.

Congrats Joe - you should be really proud of this one.

From allie on Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 16:10:30 from 71.213.51.40

congrats, joe! way to fight hard and run a strong race. your splits are solid all the way to the end. you really know how to pace yourself and you were right there today. it's going to happen -- and i agree with jason that boston is a great place for that first sub-3.

enjoy the recovery time.

From Bonnie on Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 16:43:42 from 64.119.34.17

you were awesome Joe!! Now you will come back focused and a sub-3 will most definitely come. Congrats!

From SlowJoe on Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 18:08:21 from 69.131.141.92

Andrea - thanks! whew, glad it tuned around finally.

Jason - yeah, I heard it was a pretty good app. I was glad they saved some downhill for the end.

Jake - hah, I'd forgotten I said that. I really meant it too, amazing how good the timing on the recovery worked out. thanks for your help along the way.

allie - is it too soon to start checking Boston forecasts? I gotta figure out how to make it with a little room to spare next time!

Bonnie - thanks, the mini-PR definitely give me some hope I'm going in the right direction anyway.

From joebell1981 on Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 19:00:12 from 99.39.133.24

Great job, Joe! PR on a hilly course - that's awesome, man. Sounds like you run the tangents about like I do :)

From Daniel Brunson on Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 19:32:06 from 68.14.174.169

You ran a great race today Joe! Starting off those first two miles with you really gave me the good vibes to run my best. Cheers!

From Burt on Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 19:54:28 from 72.223.86.148

Way to go Joe!! Just think, if you'd run each mile 0.35 seconds faster, you would have been sub 3! Oh, that doesn't help, does it?

From derhammer on Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 20:08:59 from 70.113.106.189

Incredible run especially with the hills. I think you will kill Boston. Wow - and you ran in your A5's. I was too afraid to even run my last 10k in mine. Again, congrats!

From seeaprilrun on Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 21:03:28 from 68.102.140.172

Awesome Joe. I was stalking, saw your time, couldn't imagine the feeling, mixed, I was sure. A massively incredible effort on a tough course, worth a sub-3 on a PR course. Hats off to you Joe, always impressive, and I appreciate the race report and the report on the feelings with that time. sub-3, it will taste that much sweeter. I have a feeling when u go sub-3, it will be well under the 3 hour mark.

From Ken Bess on Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 23:14:44 from 174.52.148.34

That's awesome Joe! Congratulations!

Although you didn't officially crack that 3 hour mark, what's the difference between a few milliseconds? You gave it one hell of a run. Way to gut it out on the uphills at mile 23, that's not an easy thing to do. You deserve the week off after this performance.

From Kendall on Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 23:41:38 from 208.54.4.212

Well done. "if only...." that's part of what makes you great. Keep pushing.

You're going to have to change the name of your blog if you keep this up.

From Dan on Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 07:16:17 from 24.209.83.20

Fabulous race Joe! Thanks for the great report and inspiring me, something that hasn't been done in some time.

From Bret on Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 07:33:03 from 64.128.133.66

Great race Joe - I feel your pain of getting close to sub 3 and loved your comment that your body doesn't know the difference regarding this arbitrary number you have set. Good report though - and congrats on the PR - give it some time to sink-in and then crush it again in Boston.

From Tom K on Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 07:52:02 from 71.228.90.171

I agree with Kendall. "If only..." is a huge motivation. Great race, Joe!

From Bec on Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 07:59:31 from 70.115.203.100

I really enjoyed reading your report. I think you did an AWESOME job! I guess the sub 3 will just have to be at Boston. To run a 6:51 pace is incredible, I can only dream about that.

Don't let this race get you down. It is a great way to start the upcoming new year and a kick start to your Boston training. Anyone that is in the 3 hour mark is an absolute talented runner in my book!

From I Just Run on Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 10:53:42 from 67.79.11.242

Sorry but I was excited when I saw the 3:00:08! I look at it this way...Now you know, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you can run a sub-3! When you're a couple of minutes off that seems like a daunting task but :08...nothing to it :-) Remember the journey is often more exciting than the destination!

Keep Running!

From Neil on Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:01:08 from 164.165.24.5

Congrats on a great race Joe. I know this is relatively cold comfort but you should take heart in the fact that you competed right through the finish line. Anyone who's run the distance knows that is not a given. Those 8 seconds will keep you striving and that's a good thing. Regards.

From SlowJoe on Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 12:00:01 from 155.219.241.11

Wow, thanks for all the great comments everyone. Some really good perspective in each one, which is why I like this blog so much. I appreciate them!

From Matt Schreiber on Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 08:18:48 from 66.17.102.185

Nice race Joe! You ran a great race! Sounds like a tough course, especially with the hills. Just think, too, if you wouldn't have ran faster than you wanted to with Daniel those first couple miles you would have been even further away from 2:59:59 and not being as bummed about the time. You ran an awesome race and have more experience going into Boston. Nice job!!

From Rye on Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 16:32:34 from 71.220.175.47

Congrats on the pr! Enjoy the time off with family and come back rejuvenated and ready for some more pr's! You are amazing!

From flatlander on Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 11:03:13 from 76.31.26.153

Sorry I'm so late getting around to this, but congratulations on a great race. Ironically, Boston is a PR course compared to the one you just ran, and you will be in peak shape for that one.

From I Just Run on Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 20:48:49 from 12.162.141.2

I just noticed your Blog Title says "The 3-Hour Guy". Soon it will say "The -3 Hour Guy" !

From baldnspicy on Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 07:00:24 from 157.154.3.140

Way to go Joe. No shame in your performance. It may be disappointing to you, but for us that have followed you from when you were "slow" to now, you're a true inspiration. Keep it up! I think you rock!

From JG on Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 08:34:34 from 174.49.78.66

Congrats Joe, you rock! Looking forward to meeting you in Boston.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
0.000.000.00

I think I've said all I have to say about the race, so please enjoy some copyrighted photos of my misery at the end.  I think it's a nice progression.

First one is in the 3rd mile; nice and upright.  Not sure what the weird face is all about, possible sniper in an adjacent building maybe.  You can see Daniel Brunson in the background!

 

Next one is somewhere in the first half, can't remember where - either 10k or 10 miles.  Danielle said it's my "Joe's Not Impressed" look.  I make a lot of weird faces when racing, I guess.  Still just out for a nice stroll though.

 

Let's skip ahead to just after the mile 25 marker.  Note the trademark balled up fist, flailing arms, and pained expression.

 

Aaaaand, I'm toast.

 

Easier to smile when it's over!

Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Jason D on Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 18:00:07 from 24.1.80.94

Ah, yes. That moment when you wonder if you still have legs, but you know you have arms because they are up to your ears, swinging side to side.

From Andrea on Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 18:58:32 from 67.177.11.154

Love the progression pics!

I dare you to take 10 days off :)

From Jake K on Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 20:06:11 from 67.177.11.154

You look pretty good toasted! Most people have slobber coming out of their mouth by that point!

From SlowJoe on Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 09:34:27 from 155.219.241.11

Jason - I am definitely aware I have legs but seem to lose peripheral vision. Is that weird?

Andrea - 10 days?! Actually it'll be close to that bc we're going to my in-laws til Sunday and I am NOT BRINGING RUNNING SHOES!

Jake - pretty sure the high-resolution pics would show the slobber, boogers and everything else. See that's how they sucker you in, with the low-res shots.

From Andrea on Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 09:46:58 from 72.37.171.52

Yes 10 days! I was looking back at the people that ran marathons this fall and no one I saw that took 10 days off is injured now but lots of people (at least 20%) that didn't take off that amount ended up with an injury. It's worth it!!!

Oh, also if you really think the iron helped you feel better, definitely keep taking it post-marathon for at least a week. It's a good idea even for people that don't usually take it b/c of all the excessive breakdown of red blood cells from the marathon :)

From SlowJoe on Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 10:35:46 from 155.219.241.11

Good enough for me, I'd be dumb NOT to listen to you. I was considering 2 full weeks off awhile back, so 10 days is definitely doable, especially since I want to hit some high mileage later on this winter.

Definitely keeping up the iron as well, thanks.

From Dan on Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 10:58:11 from 24.209.83.20

Love the photos! Thanks for sharing. Rest is nice, eat well :)

From I Just Run on Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:20:27 from 67.79.11.242

I couldn't believe there was no orange shirt but good pictures anyway! You should buy them so you know what a 3:+ marathoner looks like....You're soon going to bust that and forget! :-)

From Jason D on Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 21:20:13 from 198.228.228.161

Loss of peripheral vision is VERY bad. I read a bit ago about it, but I can't remember where or what. I do know it was a sign to stop, but since you are okay we won't worry about it but see what other folks say. I see what I can find when I get to a computer.

From Daniel Brunson on Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 08:42:24 from 68.14.174.169

Awesome photo montage.

I just noticed that not only are we the only two Oklahoma bloggers, but we joined the blog on exactly the same date. Weird, huh?

From seeaprilrun on Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 15:20:52 from 68.102.136.53

Love it!

From SlowJoe on Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 18:35:34 from 69.131.141.92

IJR - Yeah the orage shirt was fired, too many bad races in a row. Looks like it was the right move!

Jason - I'm sure it just seemed like that as I just didn't have the energy to look around anymore.

Daniel - that is definitely a weird coincidence, never noticed that.

From SlowJoe on Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 18:40:22 from 69.131.141.92

I just spelled orange wrong to drive the point home with the shirt. That'll teach it. Stupid shirt.

From Rye on Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 10:39:10 from 75.174.40.216

So nice to hear the comments on the ugly orange shirt. IJR profile pick is a great upgrade from the past. Carry on!

From I Just Run on Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 12:17:57 from 67.79.11.242

Joe & Daniel,

I'd be a littl worried if you both were from Arknasas. It might not be a coincidence in that case :-)

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.050.005.05

31F.  8:22 AP.  Well, it's been 10 days so I jogged around for a few miles this morning.  Kinda nice to skip the achy, tired-leg runs after a marathon.  Felt pretty decent, although I was out of breath after about 3 steps.  That feeling will go away in a couple weeks, though.

I managed to gain 5 or 6 pounds, which I'm pretty impressed with.  It's usually hard for me to gain weight, but I was able to accomplish it by not doing any exercise whatsoever and eating greasy foods almost exclusively.  If I had anything healthy in the last 10 days, I don't remember it.  Anyway, it's time to start reversing the trend again.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 5.05
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 07:56:22 from 67.79.11.242

Ha ha...It sounds like you and I are alot alike. We both struggle to gain weight and eat pretty much whatever we want. I have actually gained more weight since I started running (about 8 lbs) and everone keeps asking me if I've lost weight. I believe most of the weight I've gained is in my legs.

Glad you recovered from the race and are ready for the next challange!

From Jake K on Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 08:26:02 from 155.100.226.191

I think the downtime will do you good in the long term. It always stinks to feel out of shape but its worth it when you aren't broken down and burnt out 2 months from now.

From Tom K on Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 08:55:52 from 71.228.90.171

After my last race, I gave my co-workers a schedule of all of the greasy food establishments I would be visiting that week. I told them "You can choose to come with me, or not. I just want you to know that this WILL be happening." Most of those meals came with a side of "heart defibrillator." TOTALLY WORTH IT!

From Rye on Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 16:27:33 from 71.220.163.106

Pretty good plan for weight gain Joe.... Works for me also. Normally a 32oz Coke every 3 hours helps speed up the process.

From SlowJoe on Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 18:06:18 from 69.131.141.92

IJR - I'm just glad running doesn't make me drop any additional weight or I might disappear.

Jake - definitely - the 10 days off might become my new standard. It's nice not to have any post-marathon twinges anywhere

Tom - we better both get our cholesterol checked soon. Not that I would change anything...grease is delicious.

Rye - 32 oz...I like your style. Our vending machine at work only has 20 oz, but I think I've paid for the cost of the entire machine by now.

From Andrea on Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 18:29:40 from 67.177.11.154

Congrats on making it to 10 days! I'm so proud.

From flatlander on Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 07:45:22 from 76.31.26.153

Good job, wish I had so much trouble gaining weight. I run to keep it off, and if I even drop my miles a little bit it comes back on.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
7.070.007.07

37F.  7:53 AP.  8-minute pace will be status quo for awhile.

Kinvara 1 - Blk/orange Miles: 7.07
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
7.000.007.00

48F, 7:52 AP.  Basically a repeat of yesterday, but with some fog.  Looking forward to getting my legs back.

Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 7.00
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.020.005.02

58F, S 16-21 mph.  8:02 AP.  Nothin much to say about this one.  Stare-down with a cow (he won) but that's about it.  Here is my crazy mileage plan for Boston (subject to some probable tweaks - I posted a training review request in the discussion forums).  I'll either get really fast, or die trying.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 5.02
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From flatlander on Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 09:15:31 from 76.31.26.153

Very interesting. I think you should be able to handle those miles, just depends on the level of effort. As you know, I can't handle big miles without slowing down, but better runners such as yourself seem to have less problem. So what is the difference between black, green and blue?

From SlowJoe on Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 09:57:25 from 69.131.141.92

Ah, yeah the spreadsheet itself it probably only decipherable to me. Green = double, black = easy, red w/ a box is a race, blue is an MP run, purple is LT. I haven't figured out where to put all the workouts yet (thus the post in the forum) but I have a general idea now.

I do have an adjustment peiod with high mileage where I can't work out much, but once it clicks and I get used to it, I actually start recovering faster than ever and can do more.

From Jason D on Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 10:48:54 from 24.1.80.94

Looks like some crazy weeks! I hit 90 in one 7 day period, but I can't imagine doing it for weeks on end and by myself.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
13.030.0013.03

39F.  7:25 AP.  Legs actually had a little life today.  Cruised along for awhile and realized toward the end I was actually kinda tired.  Going uphill and going fast (I did a few strides at the end) are still hard to do.  It typically takes me a good month to 6 weeks to get fully back to normal after a marathon so I think I'm on that track so far.

I will do a couple easy runs this week and then attempt a simpler LT workout, like a 3 x 1 or 4 x 1.  Not sure I can get down to LT yet, definitely not for a continuous tempo, so that should test the waters well enough.

Fastwich Miles: 13.03
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Jason D on Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 18:06:49 from 24.1.80.94

That's a solid run after time off. Man, if I take ten days off, 5 miles feels hard.

From Bec on Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 21:18:34 from 50.84.20.46

Impressive run Joe, I get tired on 8 mile runs. Sounds like the weather was pretty nice too.

From I Just Run on Mon, Dec 03, 2012 at 08:37:06 from 67.79.11.242

Nice to recover so quickly!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
4.000.004.00

61F, S 15 mph.  8:20's on the pace I think.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 4.00
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
7.030.007.03

52F, N 16-22 mph.  7:49 AP.

Before this cycle really starts, I am seriously going to need some new shoes.  Just noticing the mileage on all of them...

Kinvara 1 - Blk/orange Miles: 7.03
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 08:10:44 from 67.79.11.242

Ha ha ... what shoes do you like the best? I've taken the insoles out of my first running shoes (Nike Moto 6) and put them in my Saucony Cortana's. That's what I'm training in now. So I'm just recycling. I think I'll start trading out shoe strings next. :-)

From SlowJoe on Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 11:30:37 from 155.219.241.10

I like the kinvaras for everyday training, the 1100 series for recoveries, and type A's for workouts, but I am saving the A5's for races only now. So I probably need at least 1 new pair of each. Or maybe I can just start re-purposing the parts and pieces like you, that's a good idea!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
7.153.0010.15

35F.  So, my first workout since the marathon.  I wanted to do a few LT miles, but didn't think I would be ready for a continuous run at that pace.  I was annoyingly indecisive about what to do though.  Road or track, 3 x 1 or 2 x 1.5...  Finally decided to go down to the track to avoid the hills and give me a good idea about how my marathon recovery was going.  Plus the wind was down today.  I decided that I would wait and see how the first 4 laps went before deciding on the workout.

So after 4 laps I was at 6:17 and not feeling bad, so I decided to keep going for 2 x 2400m, the next best thing to doing 3 miles continuous.  I jogged a 2-minute lap between the 2 repeats.

9:28, 9:26.  Right around my target, 6:20 pace.  Hopefully I can build up to doing 30 minutes continuous at this pace before my HM next month, once I have recovered the rest of the way from the marathon.  For now, this was a good re-introduction to running faster paces again; not too strenuous, but still got me breathing a bit.

Saucony A4 Miles: 10.15
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 08:06:42 from 67.79.11.242

It all sounds good. I bet you take another big step forward in your next training session.

From Jake K on Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 08:33:28 from 155.100.226.191

Any of those iterations would have been a good reintroduction, but I think breaking it up into ~10 minute efforts was the best move.

From Andrea on Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 08:39:19 from 72.37.171.52

Good indication that you're feeling rested and ready for training again! Nice workout.

From Jason D on Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 11:28:49 from 128.210.82.162

Good workout, Joe. I really like the idea of mixing up interval distances. I am currently deciding on a interval length and number that I can then name after myself, and possibly to be run both forward and backward.

From SlowJoe on Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 18:03:23 from 69.131.141.92

IJR - thanks, hope you are right.

Jake - it was nice having the energy to run back home from the track for once.

Andrea - hopefully it only gets better from here; I think it will...

Jason - I will be looking for your article on JasonD Repeats in the next Runner's World.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.020.005.02

46F, S 14 mph.  8:16 AP.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 5.02
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Rye on Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 16:28:59 from 65.129.125.154

That's a mouthful.

From JG on Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 16:59:59 from 174.49.78.66

I think he was out of breath from that last .02 miles. :)

From I Just Run on Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 23:31:55 from 166.137.156.159

Wore me out reading this report!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.040.008.04

43F, N 13 mph.  7:51 AP.  Cold front is coming Sunday - this is probably the first one I won't be celebrating.

Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 8.04
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Sat, Dec 08, 2012 at 10:56:51 from 166.137.119.41

I've enjoyed the cooler weather!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
4.830.004.83

43F, 8:04 AP. 

Went to the mall to see Santa today.  The kids both (maybe for the first time ever) went right up to Santa with no fear, and gave him a hug.  Then we saw this thing though, and it was kind of a different story:

Caption contest?

1150s Red #1 Miles: 4.83
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Jake K on Sat, Dec 08, 2012 at 19:18:09 from 71.37.89.57

Haha I like that :-)

Can't think of a good caption though... Too tired

From Andrea on Sun, Dec 09, 2012 at 18:36:50 from 67.177.11.154

Their faces are priceless! So cute.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
15.000.0015.00

45F, N 16-24 mph.  7:04 AP.  I dumped Pfitz for the time being and am following Mark Hadley's training methods for awhile.  Today's run was 15 @ steady state pace (zone 5).  What does that mean?  For me it's about 7:05-7:10 -- a pace that I always thought was kind of "no-man's land" but this guy uses it in the fundamental phase of training, before the marathon specific stuff starts.  Once I get 11 or 12 weeks out from Boston, these basically get replaced with MP work.

I enjoyed the run, and suppose I can even call it a "workout," which is part of the reason I like this guy.  Splts were 7:26, 7:00, 7:02, 6:58, 7:05, 6:57, 7:07, 7:05, 7:01, 7:09, 7:04, 7:06, 7:00, 7:02, 6:54.

I was not surprised to be able to complete it, but I was surprised how comfortable it was, 3 weeks after a full marathon in which I only ran 13 sec/mile faster.  Normally I still have marathon stink on my legs for 5 or 6 weeks, before I'm back to normal.  Maybe it was supposed to be somewhat easy though, I've never really tried anything similar.  Maybe the extended break after the race actually got me ready to roll sooner.  Either way, I'm feeling good about where I'm at right now; 2013 will hopefully the year of a bunch of big PRs.

Kinvara 1 - Blk/orange Miles: 15.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Jason D on Sun, Dec 09, 2012 at 11:37:28 from 24.1.80.94

Great run, Joe. I think it makes sense to run just above marathon pace, especially on longer runs. I only have two samples for evidence, but my marathon times have been ~16 seconds faster than my fastest long run.

I may throw some of these slower tempo runs in through basebuilding (what Kim Smith calls "aerobic tempo" and similar to what Paul has called "light tempo").

I would say your break did you well. Either way, you are off and . . . running.

From Bec on Sun, Dec 09, 2012 at 14:47:51 from 72.191.19.182

Way to go Joe! Way impressive that you can kick into top gear so shortly after a marathon. Check out your pace and mile splits, NICE work!

From allie on Sun, Dec 09, 2012 at 16:06:21 from 97.126.210.4

very nice, joe. i'm currently making my way through mark hadley's book -- there is some great stuff in there that i'm planning on implementing as well.

keep it up.

From Jake K on Sun, Dec 09, 2012 at 19:05:04 from 67.177.11.154

I think you're going to like the variety of workouts in his marathon plan. Its really great for organizing and structuring the long buildups. I learned a lot from reading it. Re-emphasized a lot of the things I already think, but also showed me a couple ways I can tweak my own program.

Great workout, and I'm glad you've bounced back so quickly. That little bit of extra time off probably has already paid off.

From SlowJoe on Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 08:06:59 from 155.219.241.10

Jason - thanks - definitely a good aerobic push that will help endurance. I'd feel guilty calling it a "tempo" though!

Bec - I'm definitely not used to recovering this fast...it's nice!

Allie - I'm pretty excited about this block; definitely some new stuff for me in there too.

Jake - case in point, I'm doing 16-20 x 200 on Wednesday. That's a first. I am looking forward to it too - I think the variety is helping the mental side of things as well!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.050.005.05

34F.  8:06 AP.  Evening run.  It was 22 degrees this morning, which might have been ok, but the wind was blowing pretty hard so I opted to run after work.  I still have that luxury now, since my mileage is low and I'm not doing doubles yet.  Gonna have to get used to it eventually though; I think I might test the waters tomorrow morning since the wind will be down.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 5.05
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.040.008.04

20F, 7:49 AP.  Little chilly.  Still wore shorts though.  One day I will have to break down and get running tights or something.  Today was not that day.

Fastwich Miles: 8.04
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Tom K on Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 07:45:14 from 71.228.90.171

I have heard somewhere on this blog, that all the cool kids are wearing Capri pants these days! (I may never be cool.)

From allie on Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 07:55:51 from 161.38.221.168

don't break down. pants are not necessary. tights are not necessary. capri pants are not necessary.

shorts 4 life.

From Daniel Brunson on Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 11:11:05 from 68.14.174.169

Joe, shorts? Seriously? And I thought I pushed shorts season longer than most. I see now you are not most.

From Rye on Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 17:20:19 from 65.129.125.154

It's official.... You're one tough cookie! 20 degrees and shorts.... that's crazy! See, you would make a pretty good Idahoan.

From SlowJoe on Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 07:33:34 from 155.219.241.10

Tom - We can still aspire to the capri-level of coolness. You never know, maybe one day...

allie - thanks for your support. You sold me when you abbreviated the word "for."

Daniel - Give it a try - allie and I can't both be wrong.

Rye - I am honored, but I doubt I could go another 10 or 20 degrees lower (and probably won't have to).

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
9.122.0011.12

21F.  Down to the track today for 16 x 200m, with 200m jog recoveries.  The goal was my theoretical 1-mile pace, which I would round to a nice even 40 seconds/repeat.  I thought it might be tough to crank it down to that pace in the cold but it turned out not to be an issue.

Averaged 39.02s, which is about 5:14 AP; likely faster than I could run a mile but it's all a guess anyway.  Fastest was 36.7 (4:55 AP), slowest was 40.7 (5:27 AP).  Standard deviation of 1.02 seconds.  I had a lot of fun with Excel this morning.

A lot of times they would see-saw back and forth between 38 and 40; I could always tell in the last 50m if I had accidentally started out too fast; those were usually the 37-38s.  They would almost always be followed up with a 40.  Toward the end, they were more consistent.

Long, uphill "cooldown" back to my house, followed by some coughing and wheezing at home.

Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 11.12
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From allie on Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 07:40:05 from 161.38.221.168

nicely done.

From Matt Schreiber on Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 08:01:05 from 66.17.102.185

Nice workout!

From Jake K on Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 08:56:03 from 155.100.226.191

Nice job Joe! These workouts are mainly fun just for all the data you collect :-)

From Andrea on Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 14:53:17 from 72.37.171.52

200s are awesome for working on turnover and speed. Nice workout!

From I Just Run on Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 15:39:38 from 166.137.209.171

Now this is the kind of workout I like :-) Wish I was there, except for the weather :-(

From joebell1981 on Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 15:49:24 from 99.39.133.24

Well done, Joe. For me, its always tough to make intervals this short even paced. You did great!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.050.006.05

33F, 8:23 AP.

I'm moving up my Sunday long run / workout to tomorrow.  Danielle will be out of town from Saturday - Monday so it's either do it Friday or do it on the treadmill on Sunday while keeping one eye on the kids (no thanks).  Usually my legs need more than 1 easy day between stress days but I'll give it a shot tomorrow; I think it will be fine since it's a completely different stress (like 90 sec/mile different).

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.05
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
9.008.0017.00

53F, S 17 mph.  7:13 AP.  I hopped on good ol' Watts road and did a long out and back (nice, lonely east-west road to minimize effects from the wind).  First 9 easy, next 8 as a "predator" GMP run.  Basically means center on your goal marathon pace (for now, 6:45) and do a progressive tempo around it.  So I wanted to start at 7:00, end at 6:30, or something like that.  The idea is to closer simulate the end of a race in the last few miles (it worked).

8 Tempo miles: 6:43 AP (6:56, 6:53, 6:49, 6:46, 6:42, 6:36, 6:32, 6:30).

Well executed run.  I was sluggish today, still not recovered from Wednesday (true speedwork always seems to take me a really long time to bounce back from) so I was happy to pull it off anyway.  To get the splits to work out like that, I had to really race up some hills.  Usually I let the splits fall where they may, knowing I'll make it up on the downhill miles but I decided to maintain pace going up today.  So although this is an AT workout, I definitely worked LT as well by the end, even if the paces weren't quite down there.

Good news about packing in the workouts is that I get a bunch of easy days in a row now, which I will definitely need.

Kinvara 1 - Blk/orange Miles: 17.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Matt Schreiber on Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 07:50:22 from 66.17.102.185

Looks like you've bounced back from your marathon quite well. Awesome workout!

From Tom K on Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 07:52:53 from 71.228.90.171

Wow! That is excellent. Strong work, Joe.

From Andrea on Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 08:44:16 from 72.37.171.52

Great progression run after a little fatigue in the legs! Great thing about workouts is appreciating the easy runs more :)

From Jake K on Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 08:49:42 from 155.100.226.191

Great run Joe. I really like the progressive tempos. They're a little easier to get started with, but you get the added benefit of simulating how racing gets HARDER as it goes on.

From Jason D on Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 10:32:27 from 128.210.82.162

Yeah, Joe!

From joebell1981 on Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 15:52:46 from 99.39.133.24

Nice job, Joe - Great closing miles.

From SlowJoe on Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 18:44:06 from 69.131.141.92

Thanks all - tired legs all day, that was a tough one.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

8:34 AP - 7mph on the treadmill.  Danielle left a day early so had to start a 3-day treadmill odyssey today.

I got my updated Boston confirmation card in the mail yesterday.  Yep, I updated my seed time for the 1-minute PR I ran.  Obviously.  I don't want to be lumped in with all the lowly 3:01 people, you know.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From JG on Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 09:23:21 from 174.49.78.66

You will have a sweet number! I am going to have to train hard so that I belong with the lowly 3:06 crowd! Lol

Easy six, that is what is on my plan too ... Good job getting yours in early! I am waiting for the sun, but it appears if I continue to wait I will be running in the rain.

From Jake K on Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 13:25:35 from 67.177.11.154

And then after Boston you'll be w/ the 2:50 crew!

From SlowJoe on Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 18:59:40 from 69.131.141.92

JG - you seem to have a knack for some great race performances; I'm sure you will finish well.

Jake - yeah you never know, maybe there will be an 80 mph tailwind.

From Rye on Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 20:04:20 from 71.220.178.212

I learned to love the tm.....mix it up it's not all bad. Excited for you at Boston....just take in a game for me!

From JG on Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 22:29:32 from 174.49.78.66

I was thinking I might bypass the 2:50 group & go for 2:48 ... Somewhere like St George! :)

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
9.000.009.00

9 on the treadmill @ 8:00 pace.  At least the Texans were on TV though.  I almost fell off the TM trying to help Andre Johnson make a catch on an underthrown ball.

Fastwich Miles: 9.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Matt Schreiber on Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 12:48:25 from 66.17.102.185

Ha! Good thing you didn't fall.

Nice run.

From Bec on Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 13:02:44 from 71.195.240.22

Would have been funny to see you almost fall off. jk. Nice run to start the week off right.

From Jason D on Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 15:05:37 from 24.1.80.94

I tried to catch an imaginary football earlier and I fumbled myself.

From derhammer on Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 08:54:42 from 64.245.52.2

Do you have a treadmill at the house? Been thinking about it.

Nice Cow Santa in the pic.

From I Just Run on Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 10:20:02 from 67.79.11.242

I can't believe I see TM miles logged for you. The weather must be really bad! I wouldn't have known that was a Santa Cow unless DH had mentioned it :-)

From SlowJoe on Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 10:53:16 from 155.219.241.10

dh - yeah, we have a TM - it's good for times like this when you have to keep an eye on the kids but that's just about the only time I use it.

IJR - weather was beautiful, but Danielle was out of town so I couldn't leave the kids for a run. After we saw the Santa Cow, I had the urge to eat steak.

From Tom K on Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 10:59:53 from 71.228.90.171

Did you ever get any good captions for the Santa Cow pic? Those kids look alarmed!

From SlowJoe on Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 11:04:54 from 155.219.241.10

They would have preferred to view the Santa Cow from afar, but he walked right up to them. That thing makes me nervous too!

From Tom K on Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 11:12:13 from 71.228.90.171

I'm fighting the urge to make a pun, here. oh, I give up.

How Udderly rude of Santa Cow to frighten your girls!

From SlowJoe on Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 11:33:09 from 155.219.241.10

Yeah, no need to fight the urge -- feel free to milk the picture for all its worth.

From Tom K on Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 11:44:54 from 71.228.90.171

Oh, I'm just grazing the surface. "Hey, Santa, why the long face?" But I feel compelled to steer the conversation back to running, and ask you how your calves were feeling at the tail end of your rare treadmill run. I don't mean to prod you with questions.

From SlowJoe on Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 12:54:36 from 155.219.241.10

You win!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.050.006.05

43F.  8:07 AP.  Ran in the evening so I could run outside (Danielle is back).  It's been a harrowing 3 days but me and the girls survived with mommy gone.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 6.05
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Rye on Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 21:01:46 from 71.220.178.212

Who's the moron in santa outfit? Move the Oklahoma and Christmas goes to heck!Seriously, is that a cow? lol

Hope that was your doing and not your wifes.....wonder what happened these last 3 days.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
9.000.009.00

35F, 7:41 AP.  I retired my oldest pair of Kinvaras at 700 miles and ran in a new pair of shoes today, the Kinvara 2's.  Did y'all even know they updated the Kinvara?  Well, they did, and I have them.  Not just everyone can have the latest and greatest update, though.  Just keep that in mind before you get too jealous.

Anyway, am I the only one who doesn't like running in a new pair of shoes?  It feels like I don't have feet.

Kinvara 2 - Gray/red Miles: 9.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 08:39:21 from 67.79.11.242

Thanks for putting me in my place this morning :-( and no I don't have new shoes!

From I Just Run on Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 08:40:28 from 67.79.11.242

Oh btw, good running, you bounced back quickly after the race.

From Jake K on Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 08:40:31 from 155.100.226.191

I love the 2s. I just finally switched to a pair of the 3s, and its taken me a couple runs to adjust.

From Rye on Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 09:08:53 from 75.174.35.83

It seems like about 50 to 75 miles into a new pair is when they start feeling ok. Nice run. Dealing with the cold ok?

From Burt on Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 11:14:56 from 71.216.109.214

Did somebody say they have #2?

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
14.050.0014.05

42F. 7:41 AP. Early, sluggish start. Been struggling through a headcold all week - seems to be hanging around for awhile.

The one thing I want to keep from Pfitz is the MLR, but not at the expense of workouts this time. This week it was doable.

Kinvara 1 - Blk/orange Miles: 14.05
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From flatlander on Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 07:07:39 from 76.31.26.153

Nice run. So remind me again, are you addinge more slow miles or cutting back and going faster in your new program? I am certainly at a crossroads, although I am mature enough to know that part of it is taper madness.

From I Just Run on Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 08:56:03 from 67.79.11.242

What is MLR?

Oh, can't stand the Santa Cow!

From Jake K on Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 09:09:18 from 155.100.226.191

I'm trying to make one of my mid-week workout total about 15-18 miles, and telling myself that replaces the MLR. I think I'll recover better if I don't throw in the mid-week 15, even if its really easy.

But in a week where you aren't doing any many workouts, its definitely still worth throwing in there.

From SlowJoe on Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 09:29:19 from 155.219.241.10

flat - miles are going up, workouts are just structured much differently.

IJR - MLR = medium-long run (14-16 miles maybe)

Jake - that's about what I'm going to do. A lot of weeks in the specific phase, the mid-week workout is a lot of AT/GMP so the mileage should be there anyway. Definitely not adding in an additional MLR those weeks, I think it would crush me if I tried.

From Tom K on Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 07:23:14 from 71.228.90.171

I am glad you translated. Is there a list of common abbreviations used on this site? Pfitz?

From SlowJoe on Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 08:17:20 from 155.219.241.10

Tom - Pfitz(inger) wrote the book "Advanced Marathoning" which contained the general plan I followed to get my BQ. Great book, but like anything, it only works for a little while until you have to change things up a bit.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.050.006.05

32F, NW 20-35 mph.  8:36 AP.  Fortunately all the 50 mph gusts were last night.  Unfortunately, they blew part of our steel-and-concrete-reinforced fence down, not to mention the neighbor's huge trampoline somehow ended up in our backyard.

Gotta pick a 5k-10k pace interval workout tomorrow.  I'm even tossing around the idea of just running a 5k time trial on the track.  5k's count as 5k pace, right?  As usual, I'll probably decide as I'm jogging down to the high school...

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.05
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Jake K on Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 09:01:10 from 155.100.226.191

Another idea is to plan on a 2 mile / 3200m time trial... run it, and decide on lap #8 whether to:

1) Keep going until 5K

or

2) Call it at 2 miles and then add on some 200s or 400s

From SlowJoe on Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 09:08:56 from 155.219.241.10

not a bad option!

From JG on Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 09:34:21 from 174.49.78.66

I like the 2 mile option ... 11:30?

From SlowJoe on Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 09:43:30 from 155.219.241.10

Not sure, but I think I'd be all done if I ran 11:30. Maybe 12:00-ish if I wanted to do some more hard running. We'll see, I never can predict how I'll do at the track.

From Burt on Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 15:19:05 from 71.216.109.214

Decide and commit NOW! That's my motto.

From Jason D on Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 17:59:22 from 74.75.190.42

I like to run 5ks when I am chasing someone, but I like Jake's idea. I think super hard efforts solo are important though because they can make you push even harder in a race situation. I need to do a 1-mile time trial at some point, but I never figured out how to run well on the track. My only experiences are some two mile runs for soccer and my smoking 9:15 mile freshman year of high school :)

From SlowJoe on Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 18:12:14 from 69.131.141.92

Burt - I commit...to decide later.

Jason - too bad we don't live closer, we could push each other to some 1-mile PR's. Clash of the Non-Runners. They could put it on TV but would probably need a commercial break somewhere in the middle.

From joebell1981 on Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 04:27:54 from 99.39.133.24

Sign up for a 5k race, Joe!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.023.1111.13

23F.  I decided to do a 5k, broken down into decreasing amounts, keeping the laps at 5k pace or better.  So I did 2400-1200-800-400-200.  1 lap easy between each.  Results were:

8:56

4:26

2:54

1:20

33.7

Adds up to 18:09, but obviously I got some good rest in there.  My goal was to keep it under 90 seconds/lap avg, so misson accomplished there.  I liked the workout.  Each subsequent interval was like a treat because it was shorter than the last.  A good reality check too -- I am nowhere near being able to run a sub-18 5k.

Saucony A5 - Blue Miles: 11.13
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From allie on Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 07:42:55 from 97.126.210.4

that's a fun workout. nice job, joe.

From Rye on Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 07:52:22 from 75.174.35.83

Variety! Sweet run!

From I Just Run on Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 08:35:49 from 67.79.11.242

Burrr cold run! It was cold here too.

I like the idea of decreasing distances, that sounds fun.

I do think you underestimate what you can do under race conditions. I'm running a 5K tomorrow but not for a PR. I'm just going to run with Callie (my daughter) and pace her around a 8:00 pace.

From Jake K on Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 09:24:47 from 155.100.226.191

I like what you decided to do. You're probably not as far away as you think, but it'll take some more 5K pace sessions. Good workout today.

From Andrea on Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:24:10 from 72.37.171.52

I would think that the pace you ran your intervals today is probably pretty close to what you could do in a race. A short taper and race setting do some great things. Great workout!

From Jason D on Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 22:47:39 from 74.75.190.42

Good stuff, Joe. I think two 5ks in a shortish period of time could put you under 18.

From JG on Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 09:23:26 from 174.49.78.66

Cool workout, I love ladders! I agree with Andrea ... find a fast, flat 5k & sign up!

From flatlander on Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 09:50:59 from 76.31.26.153

Good job, love it how you never brought up the temperature.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.050.006.05

34F, 8:23 AP.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 6.05
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Jason D on Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 10:32:04 from 74.75.190.42

Looks like someone is on the fast track to 3000 miles this year!

From SlowJoe on Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 12:31:17 from 69.131.141.92

Should make it with a few days to spare!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
18.080.0018.08

42F, N 15 mph.  7:25 AP.  I waited to run until after church and it turned out to be a really nice day to run.

I had 2 hours and 14 minutes to think about my training a little.  Something Sasha said on the message boards kind of turned on a lightbulb for me, that my 5k time was a problem.  I think for most of this past year, even though my race times have been stagnant, my aerobic threshold has actually been improving.  That's why it feels like my "easy pace" is getting faster and faster.  It's been closing the gap on lactate threshold, which has NOT been improving.  Neither has 5k pace, vo2 max, etc.  I have not done enough to address those other paces and it's kind of putting a ceiling (or a floor?) on how fast I can run a marathon.

Anyway, the training I have on tap now should address those shortcomings (thanks, Jake).  I have 2 big LT workouts planned before the Houston HM in a few weeks.  Then I will keep hitting the other systems more consistently (as I've been doing the past few weeks) while shifting the focus to MP.  Don't want to jump the gun yet, but I might even consider a longer 5k-focused cycle instead of a marathon cycle next fall (as painful and terrible as that sounds).

Kinvara 2 - Gray/red Miles: 18.08
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From derhammer on Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 12:36:14 from 66.68.110.62

I won't say it's been something I have been saying for a while. ;-) Sounds like a plan to me.

Nice run today!

From SlowJoe on Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 13:17:11 from 69.131.141.92

Hey, sometimes I need things spelled out for me!

From Jason D on Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 14:34:43 from 198.228.201.157

Makes sense to me, joe. I ran doubles three days a week, but I combined my long run and tempo with rare faster workouts. I was fit, but not super fast. But you know, the secret is...there is no secret!

From Jake K on Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 15:41:18 from 174.235.132.197

The LT work alone will bring your 5k time down. You've got a good plan and approach... I think you'll be improving across the board from 5k to the marathon and everything in between this year.

From flatlander on Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 09:24:42 from 76.31.26.153

Interesting, thanks for posting that, lots to think about.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.000.008.00

35F.  8:25 AP.  No work today -- nice to be able to wait until it warms up a little, and then go running.

Tomorrow on the other hand...well, it's neat to get a white Christmas in Oklahoma, but this is going to be a whiteout Christmas, with 40 mph winds to go along with the snow.  Anyway, might be treadmilling it.

Poor Keira - Santa is getting her a Power Wheels Jeep and she is only going to be able to drive it in circles in the living room tomorrow!

1150s Red #1 Miles: 8.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 09:04:11 from 166.137.156.161

Merry Christmas Joe!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.000.008.00

AM - 4 so far on the TM.  I'm actually breaking up my 8 miles today into 2 runs, that's how long my attention span is on the TM.  I can handle the 20 degrees outside, but not 20 degrees with 35 45 mph wind and horizontal snow (link to my front yard).  Or at least I don't want to.  Back to playing with all the new kids toys.

PM - 4 more when the kids went to bed.  Both runs in the low 8's on the pace.  Gotta do a workout tomorrow - I think the wind might die a little by the afternoon.  The question mark is how snowy/icy the roads are.  Or the track.

Merry Christmas all!

 

Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 8.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Andrea on Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 13:12:21 from 96.61.122.105

Has your girl gotten sick from all the Jeep circles yet? :)

From SlowJoe on Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 13:16:21 from 69.131.141.92

Well, as usual, the presents we think will be most popular, aren't. She has played the most with this $5 gift called "Gak."

Hope you are having a great Christmas in TN!

From Dan on Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 17:29:15 from 24.209.83.20

Merry Christmas Joe! That's kids for ya and I'd stay inside with that wind too

From Matt Schreiber on Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 20:21:12 from 66.17.102.185

I saw this snow stuff showing up down in your part of the country. Looks like a lot of wind, too. Merry Christmas!

From I Just Run on Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 07:59:40 from 67.79.11.242

That's exactly what I thought Oklahoma looked like...just not white!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.005.9613.96

26F.  Big LT wave run today - I went down to the track to do this workout.  After all, Houston is flat.  There was some snow in a few patches that slowed me down a bit but it was workable.

So with the wave run, you alternate paces.  My mission was to alternate 800s between 3:05 and 3:20, and do this for 6 straight miles.  So you end up with 6 continuous miles @ HMP overall, but the alternating 800 paces make you step up your game a bit.

Unfortunately I didn't learn my lesson with the stupid Garmin.  When I left, it had 41% battery, but it fizzled out after 3 800s.  I don't think it liked the cold.  I would have loved to have the data for this workout.  I ran 2:59, 3:15, 3:04, then ???.  Kept going though, and finished it off by effort.  I think I had the pace pretty well dialed in by the second set, after being a little fast on the first set.

The absolute hardest part of this workout is the first "recovery" lap after the faster 800.  You already know the fast 800 is going to suck, but after running a hard 800, you have an urge to jog the recovery yet have to press on at faster than marathon pace.  This is why I think I met the intent, even though I wasn't able to time most of it.  I got the proper "hurt" at the proper times, and when I finished, I had the feeling that I REALLY would not have wanted to do another set.  But dang, I really wanted to see what the total time was for 6 miles, and whether it was faster than HMP overall.  The important part is that I got the right stimulus out of it and I'm very confident in that, at least.

Saucony A5 Miles: 13.96
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Jake K on Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 20:09:53 from 98.165.228.80

That's a tough session. You're right, you got the right stimulus, even if the exact paces were off by a few seconds, that doesn't really matter. I'm very interested to see how this plan works for you. You're stepping up to the big leagues w/ these workouts :-)

From SlowJoe on Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 09:39:05 from 155.219.241.10

I feel like it's starting to work already; formerly intimidating paces (on the track anyway) seemed a lot less so the last couple sessions.

From flatlander on Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 09:41:19 from 198.207.244.102

Um, I think you just beat your HM PR, no? Too bad you will never know! Seriously, with a good taper and some decent weather you might have a shot at breaking 1:20 in Houston. Looks like you were practically there on this workout. Stupid Garmin.

From SlowJoe on Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 09:47:52 from 155.219.241.10

flat - thanks, maybe even a world record yesterday, who knows for sure?! Anyway, I wish I could run 1:20! But if I could shave off a minute or two from the PR I would be ecstatic.

From derhammer on Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 14:23:35 from 64.245.52.2

Nice job! I never really did these until this Fall with Carmen's group - all of her track workouts are very similar with the varying of paces and also distances. It's a really good stimulus but it takes a lot out of me. Slow recovery runs are important. From my understanding these are the types of workouts done at the elite levels. Must be courtesy of Jake. Like he said - you are stepping up to the big league. :-) Keep it up.

From Jake K on Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 14:30:29 from 98.165.228.80

The harder the workouts the slower the easy runs get :-)

From SlowJoe on Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 17:29:11 from 69.131.141.92

dh - are you saying I'm not elite?! But yeah, it was definitely working the right stuff if having tired legs is the litmus test.

Jake - yep like clockwork, recovery paces are slowing down as training load goes up...was lucky to avg sub-9 this morning!

From Jake K on Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 19:33:46 from 98.165.228.80

I like to wait for the beep on the first mile and try to guess what its going to be. A lot of opening miles b/w 8:45-9:00 lately!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
10.000.0010.00

AM - 19F, 6 miles @ 8:49 AP.  shorts.

PM - 33F, 4 miles @ 8:32 AP.  I wore the Mizunos again; the first time I wore them they rubbed my achilles raw, so I finally did some corrective surgery on them with some scissors.  Seemed to be ok this time, hopefully I won't have to throw them away.  Why would you make a shoe that pinches in right there?  Dummies.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.00Mizuno Wave Universe Miles: 4.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Jason D on Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 11:38:49 from 24.1.80.94

You hit the 3000 mile mark, Joe. Congrats.

From Kelli on Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 11:48:37 from 67.172.235.55

SHORTS????? I will not even go outside to get my mail when it is below 20! You are SuperMan!

From ACorn on Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 17:20:29 from 24.2.76.146

You must have antifreeze in your veins!

From SlowJoe on Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 17:34:31 from 69.131.141.92

thanks Jason, maybe 4000 next year? maybe not...

Kelli and ACorn - yes, just the kind of comments I was looking for, thanks! My legs were all red afterwards, but it's actually my face that seems to hurt in the cold, not my legs.

From Kelli on Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 17:43:50 from 67.172.235.55

what about your hands and your ears?

From SlowJoe on Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 17:49:59 from 69.131.141.92

hat and gloves, definitely. Hate cold hands!

From Kelli on Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 18:04:05 from 67.172.235.55

I get cold hands just walking in to my warm treadmill run each day.

From Kelli on Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 18:05:03 from 67.172.235.55

BTW, I am not sure if i ever saw that last marathon post. I really am not much of a FRB blogger any more. I got too lazy. ANYWAY, quite the time. And dang those 9 seconds. You got it on this next one. January, right? Like in a few weeks?

From SlowJoe on Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 18:34:04 from 69.131.141.92

January I'll just run a half, but will do Boston in April. Are you going this year?

From Kelli on Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 19:47:58 from 67.172.235.55

Nope. My husband has only qualified the one time...maybe again in a few years.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
12.080.0012.08

27F, N 20-25 mph.  7:46 AP.  Sideways snow for the last 4 miles, my favorite.  Of course, I ran on my east/west road but the blowing snow made the right half of my face numb on the way back...ouch!  My eyeballs took hundreds of direct hits.

I was going to do some short time trials today, but the snow/ice never melted off the track.  It's one thing to clomp through/around it in a tempo, but another to all-out sprint through it.  I'll try next week.

Saw 2 brown foxes and an instruction book for a one-step pregnancy test while on the road today.  Someone really wanted to know!

Kinvara 3 - Gray/red Miles: 12.08
Weight: 0.00
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From I Just Run on Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 09:24:06 from 67.79.11.242

Your're making me feel bad. I'm not nearly dedicated enought to run in weather like that. You're the MAN!

From Jason D on Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 11:26:32 from 24.1.80.94

Perhaps the foxes left it?

From SlowJoe on Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 11:46:25 from 69.131.141.92

No Jason, not THOSE kind of foxes.

From Tom K on Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 08:58:26 from 108.9.135.41

Wow. You guys up north are troopers. I vow to never complain about weather again.

If there were such a thing as a "runner's scavenger hunt", with unusual sights to be checked off, as you pass them, I think you would be today's winner.

From Rye on Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 09:05:30 from 65.129.87.32

Wow.... you are getting closer and closer to becoming an Idaho runner....Still waiting to hear about that creepy looking Santa in the profile pic...

From SlowJoe on Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 12:30:32 from 69.131.141.92

Tom - hmm, I think that's the first time anyone's ever referred to me as living "up north." It's all relative I guess!

Rye - after we took the picture, we ate the cow.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

33F, 8:21 AP.  Waited until it warmed up a bit, then did a short recovery run.  One nice thing about winter is that you might as well sleep in, because the cool temps let you run later in the day.  That option goes away in the summer (and surrounding months).

1150s Red #2 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
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From flatlander on Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 12:52:17 from 76.31.26.153

I knew I was doing something wrong.

From Bam on Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 15:28:48 from 89.126.28.24

That's a good week's training Joe. I especially liked your wave session with the 800's. I've put that into my 'little black book.'

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
15.002.0017.00

33F, S 10 mph.  Today the workout was 15 @ steady state, followed by 2 @ HMGP (~6:20).

15 @ SS - 7:01 AP - (7:16, 7:01, 7:05, 6:55, 7:04, 6:58, 7:04, 7:06, 7:04, 6:53, 6:55, 7:06, 6:55, 7:04, 6:56

Last 2 - 6:10, 6:03

AP for 17 miles - 6:55

I figured that it would be pretty tough to drop a couple 6:20's after 15 moderate to hard aerobic miles.  But the legs just sprung into a nice fast pace, and I let them go.  Not quite all-out-tank-emptying pace, but definitely harder than HMP.  Probably harder than I should have run overall, but this was a really good confidence-building run.

This ends a 75-mile week (biggest since April), and the legs are still very responsive.  80 next week, then down to 65 for the week of the race (mini-taper).

Kinvara 3 - Gray/red Miles: 17.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From ACorn on Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 15:49:16 from 24.2.76.146

Very solid run, those last 2 miles should give you some confidence going into the 1/2 :)

From Jake K on Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 15:56:48 from 98.165.228.80

Great run joe!

From joebell1981 on Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 18:33:42 from 99.39.133.24

Fantastic effort Joe! You're gonna destroy that half!! :)

From Dan on Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 19:05:32 from 24.209.83.20

Joe you are looking very strong!

From I Just Run on Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 08:17:22 from 12.162.141.2

Wow, great run Joe! I'm impressed with your speed and progress. Keep it up!!

From Jason D on Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 10:05:24 from 24.1.80.94

Impressive stuff lately, Joe. I'm willing to bet you can hit some low 6s in the second half of the half for sure (if not throughout).

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

36F, 8:51 AP.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From JG on Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 11:13:52 from 98.237.61.17

3,050 miles! Congrats on a great year of running for you all the way around Joe! Happy New Year!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
2684.17366.023050.19
Fastwich Miles: 448.601150s Red #2 Miles: 462.821150s Red #1 Miles: 445.55Saucony A4 Miles: 292.56Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 416.42Kinvaras Miles: 346.20Saucony A5 Miles: 212.45Kinvara 1 - Blk/orange Miles: 343.20Mizuno Wave Universe Miles: 15.11Kinvara 2 - Gray/red Miles: 27.08Saucony A5 - Blue Miles: 11.13Kinvara 3 - Gray/red Miles: 29.08
Weight: 0.00
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