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Location:

San Antonio,TX,

Member Since:

Dec 13, 2009

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Other

Running Accomplishments:

5K PR - 18:01 - Nov '14

10K PR - 38:37 (workout) - Oct '14

Half-marathon - 1:22:43 - Jan '14

Marathon - 2:58:43 in Boston! - Apr '13

50 mile - 7:49:30 (2nd) - Nov '15

Short-Term Running Goals:

- Balance

- Run more trails, volunteer, more social running, run with a team

- Race a lot more.  learn.

Race results / possible schedule:

Apr 2 - Hells Hills 25k trail - 4th

Apr 9 - Toughest 'n Texas 20-mile Trail - 2nd

May 7 - Paleface - Trail Marathon - 3rd

May 29 - American Hero road 25k - 2nd

Jun 25 - Pedernales Falls 30k nighttime Trail - 5th (sick)

Jul 16 - Muleshoe Bend 30k nighttime Trail - 3rd

Jul 23-24 - Fossil Valley 9-hour nighttime Trail - 2nd

Aug 6 - Colorado Bend 30k nighttime Trail - 4th

Aug 27 - Reveille Peak 30k nighttime Trail (entered)

Sep 10 - Franklin Mountains 50k (entered - not all-out effort...I hope)

Sep 17 - Lighthouse Hill 20-mile trail (entered)

Sep 24 - J&J 50 mile trail

Long-Term Running Goals:

Compete in a few more ultras without going off course (again)

Sub-18 in a 5k

One.  Good.  Marathon.

Personal:

I started running at age 30, in late 2009.  I have 2 daughters (10 and 8 yrs old).

  

 

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Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
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Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
3.300.503.80

I was gonna take the day off but I changed my mind after breakfast and decided to do a couple laps around lost lake with 5 pounds of food digesting in my stomach, in order to hit the mileage I'd originally planned for the week.

Ran 2 easy, then a half-mile in 2:50 (1:31, 1:19) then 1.3 easy.  For the half-mile I ran a smooth first quarter, then gradually accelerated the next quarter with the last 5 seconds or so pretty close to an all out sprint.

Then I ate a donut.  Happy new year.

1140s #1 Miles: 3.80
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From DonGardinero on Sat, Jan 01, 2011 at 01:18:57 from 173.127.39.94

Nice job!!! Happy new year!!!

From Kelli on Sat, Jan 01, 2011 at 03:42:02 from 71.219.84.215

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU!!!! You are the first runner in the New Year, I think.

From seeaprilrun on Sat, Jan 01, 2011 at 19:48:14 from 72.205.226.14

I hope it was a chocolate doughnut.

From SlowJoe on Sun, Jan 02, 2011 at 02:05:22 from 109.70.68.174

Thanks DG and Kelli. I enjoyed my few hours as the year's mileage leader. Now it will never happen again! April, it actually was chocolate...smuggled from the chow hall!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.000.008.00

7:55 pace, last couple miles ended up being MP.

This week I'm moving my runs around a bit - long run will be 20 miles, but take place on Wednesday.  This is to accomodate the Disney half marathon satellite race taking place on Saturday.  Should be kinda cool, it's taking place at the same time at the race in the states and will have a video link between the starting lines.  The bad news is that makes it a 2pm start here, which is pretty much the worst possible time for me and my night-shift schedule.  Gonna just suck it up though, and do it.  I'm going to pace an Army buddy as he tries to PR.  He wants a 1:45 but will be happy with 1:50.

1140s #2 Miles: 8.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From flatlander on Sun, Jan 02, 2011 at 12:02:54 from 76.31.26.153

You'll be filing your nails out of boredom on that one. Nice of you to give up your race to do that.

From SlowJoe'sGrl on Sun, Jan 02, 2011 at 15:07:07 from 184.79.24.255

Wow! Didn't even mention that one. That's really nice of you to pace him. It is only your 2nd official half-marathon.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.003.008.00

Felt pretty good on this run.  No specific workout really, just sped up a bunch on the way home.  Averaged 7:59 for the first 4, then 7:26, 7:13, 6:59, 6:09.  I don't have a mile PR, but I'm quite sure that last mile would qualify as the fastest mile I've ever run.  Didn't really intend to do that but the speed felt good and smooth, and wasn't knocking me out like it should have, so I let 'er rip the last half mile.

AP was 7:27 for the run.

1140s #1 Miles: 8.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From DonGardinero on Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 01:27:17 from 67.2.124.101

Wow, that's pretty dang fast!!! The fastest mile I've ever run was 7:39. Not even close to your pace. Awesome!

From Tracy on Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 15:24:10 from 209.175.177.37

Okay. I'm officially caught up on your blog. It is awesome to see how FAST you are getting! You are going to kick some butt at the end of this month!

I loved the pictures that you posted around Christmas time. Pretty cool.

From Rye on Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 18:17:41 from 174.27.115.129

It's all coming together for ya! You are going to do great!!!

From allie on Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 20:00:23 from 174.23.238.75

awesome run, speedyjoe.

From SlowJoe on Tue, Jan 04, 2011 at 00:46:38 from 109.70.68.174

Thanks all.

Hey Tracy! You are too kind, hope all is well!

From seeaprilrun on Tue, Jan 04, 2011 at 21:59:04 from 72.205.226.14

Wow check out that blistering last mile! Betcha all out you could crack 6 minutes!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.000.005.00

8:20 pace.

Why did I name these shoes "new" blue asics?  Not a lot of foresight.

New Blue Asics Miles: 5.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From DonGardinero on Tue, Jan 04, 2011 at 00:34:34 from 67.2.75.194

Nice recovery run.

I always have dumb names for my shoes, too. Then I get confused which shoe I actually ran in. It's been easier lately since I switched to a different model of Asics.

From SlowJoe on Tue, Jan 04, 2011 at 01:11:24 from 109.70.68.174

The dumb thing is I almost named the next ones "newer" Asics. I'm a slow learner. To dummy-proof it this time I used a sharpee and drew a big '1' on one pair and a '2' on the other pair.

From Tracy on Tue, Jan 04, 2011 at 07:57:02 from 173.23.75.96

That's a good idea. Good run!

From seeaprilrun on Tue, Jan 04, 2011 at 22:00:14 from 72.205.226.14

Umm, I have named my shoes as "new" as well. I also ran 8:20 pace today. I don't know who's channeling who. Anywho, nice recovery run.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
17.003.0020.00

I saved the best 20-miler for last, I guess.  AP 7:45.  Yeah, marathon goal pace for a 20-miler.  Who does that?  Probably kinda dumb, but good for the confidence anyway.  Here are the splits...

First 10 -- AP 8:02 -- 8:12, 8:10, 8:05, 8:00, 8:06, 8:03, 8:04, 7:56, 7:46, 7:55

Last 10 -- AP 7:29 -- 7:46, 7:40, 7:40, 7:52, 7:44, 7:39, 7:23, 7:15, 7:01, 6:48

My last 13.1 was a sub-1:40, which PR's me for the 3rd time in a training run.  I just kinda ran whatever I felt like doing today and ended up getting a nice progressive run out of it.  I also caused the runner's knee to flare up a bit, but I think it's pretty manageable.  Hopefully I can still pace my friend in the HM this Saturday, and hopefully he's not a lot faster than he lets on.  Would it be bad if I couldn't keep up with him?  I'm hoping a day off tomorrow and a short, slow run Friday recovers me enough.

If everything stays on schedule, I have basically 1 more week of training in this country.

1140s #2 Miles: 20.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Colby Park on Wed, Jan 05, 2011 at 06:54:16 from 139.139.35.70

Nice run, and it sounds like you are leaving Iraq here shortly? Congrats and welcome back.

From Tracy on Wed, Jan 05, 2011 at 07:47:08 from 173.23.75.96

That's really awesome! Look at those last four miles! Good luck on the recovery and the pacing.

From DonGardinero on Wed, Jan 05, 2011 at 13:00:22 from 67.2.84.77

Lookin' good!!! Where is the half this Saturday?

From Burt on Wed, Jan 05, 2011 at 17:08:41 from 206.19.214.144

How can you not keep up with anyone?

From seeaprilrun on Wed, Jan 05, 2011 at 19:12:59 from 72.205.226.14

Nice Joe! I betcha your marathon pace will be even faster than 7:45.

From SlowJoe on Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 01:50:29 from 109.70.68.174

thanks Colby, yeah about a week, give or take..

thanks Tracy! Weirdly, my legs felt less achy when I sped up.

DG - it's here in Baghdad, actually. Starts at the same time as the one in Florida.

Burt - thanks, I feel better today so I should be an ok pacer.

April - would be nice - still trying to figure out the whole pace plan.

From Rye on Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 23:25:06 from 168.103.42.50

Joe, what's going to happen when you have to train in the states? Things have really come together for you! It has probably been a good outlet for you!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

7:56 avg.

The race tomorrow should finally put me over 60 for a single week.  One day, I hope me and High Mileage will be best friends but we've had a rocky relationship so far; if we don't take it slow, someone gets hurt (me).

New Blue Asics Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From DonGardinero on Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 02:42:12 from 152.216.7.5

Same here!

From ChrisM on Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 04:11:08 from 130.88.123.4

One day that day will come!

From Tracy on Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 07:49:24 from 173.23.75.96

Impressive! Good luck pacing your friend!

From DonGardinero on Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 12:18:22 from 67.2.94.244

Good luck pacing your friend!

From Burt on Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 18:43:49 from 206.19.214.144

Some day your prince will come.

From seeaprilrun on Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 18:52:06 from 72.205.226.14

There is plenty of time to nourish that relationship--it's always good to take it slow anyway.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
13.540.0013.54

8:04 AP.  Ran the simultaneous Disney half from Iraq with my friend today.  He did really well, clocking just under a 1:46 for 13.1, but the course was quite a bit long; we still finished the 13.5+ miles in 1:49.  We were under 8-minute pace until the last 5k.  I think I was actually a pretty decent pacer though.

I've now gone 24 hours with no sleep and it's time to go to work...awesome.  Still say it was worth it though.

1140s #2 Miles: 13.54
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Tracy on Sat, Jan 08, 2011 at 13:02:59 from 173.23.75.96

Hope you can function long enough to get through work. Then you can collapse!

Sounds like the pace was easy for you. That is a good sign.

From flatlander on Sat, Jan 08, 2011 at 13:41:49 from 76.31.26.153

Absolutely worth it, good deed helping your friend.

From seeaprilrun on Sat, Jan 08, 2011 at 19:42:42 from 72.205.226.14

Awesome of you to pace your body and get a workout at the same time! Hope you are sleeping well.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
3.800.003.80

After work I was sitting at 36 hours with no sleep (still not a PR though) so I took a 2-hour nap and woke up to get in a little run and go eat something.  Now I can sleep for real.  8:31 AP.

New Blue Asics Miles: 3.80
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
11.000.0011.00

7:40 avg pace.  3 easy + 8 GMP.

3 easy @ 8:01

8 GMP @ 7:32 (splits were 7:35, 7:34, 7:37, 7:32, 7:26, 7:31, 7:32, 7:31)

Lately I've been doing my GMP runs a little faster -- having delusions of grandeur thinking I might be able to crack 3:20.  I keep hoping this pace will feel like MP.  Still not quite.  I'm sure I can hold it for a long time, 2 hours no problem...maybe 2.5...but more than that?  Don't know.

Looking at McMillan equivalent paces it seems like I should be right on top of it:

--5K @ 6:36 pace?  Basically did it my last race.

--5mi @ 6:48 pace?  Did 5mi tempo recently @ 6:54...at the end of an 11-mile run.

--HM @ 7:15 pace?  Ran 7:26 pace on what was supposed to be a 13.1 MP run but got carried away, just messing around.

Still gotta think about it awhile since 3:20 doesn't really hold any significance for me, and I'd like to just have a good time with the race.

1140s #2 Miles: 11.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From DonGardinero on Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 02:22:53 from 67.2.101.100

Nice pace for the run.

What are the temps like out your way? It's bitter cold here, still. Right now it's about 14 degrees here. Brrrr.

From SlowJoe on Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 02:38:45 from 109.70.68.174

Hey DG - actually in the winter, this place has perfect running weather in the morning: 40-50 degree lows, very little wind, not much rain, etc.

From Tracy on Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 07:58:14 from 173.23.75.96

Sounds like perfect weather!

I have no good advice, other than thinking that you are quite fast and you have the drive to do it. Maybe be conservative the first few miles of the race and build into what you think you can do. I say go for it.

From seeaprilrun on Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 18:17:25 from 68.103.248.137

Considering how strong you felt and your strong finish on your 20-miler, I think you can do it. That's my two cents. Listen to your body during the race and if it feels good at that pace and you're not straining--go for it!

From SlowJoe on Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 02:10:56 from 109.70.68.174

Thanks Tracy & April. That is good advice from both. I'm thinking of starting with a 1:41 or so for the 1st half (low 7:40s). That way I can decide in the 2nd half whether to go for the negative split, and I still haven't worked hard enough for the bonk to be inevitable yet (hopefully). Don't even know if that makes sense, but here's hoping!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.400.005.40

8:17 pace on a foggy morning...didn't expect that.

New Blue Asics Miles: 5.40
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From DonGardinero on Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 01:31:56 from 67.2.94.44

Did you hear any foghorns? Nice run.

From Tracy on Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 07:59:26 from 173.23.75.96

I bet that was a sight.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
18.000.0018.00

7:58 AP.  Mostly kept it between 8:00 and 8:10, then did the last 3 in the 7:20s.

1140s #2 Miles: 18.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From ChrisM on Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 04:25:53 from 130.88.123.4

Wow, that is a fast run!

From Tracy on Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 08:01:06 from 173.23.75.96

Is this your last long run? That pace is pretty spectacular!

From flatlander on Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 14:51:20 from 198.207.244.102

Very nice run, this stuff is going to pay off big time for you.

From seeaprilrun on Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 17:28:08 from 68.103.248.137

I'm convinced. Sub 3:20 is yours.

From Kelli on Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 20:34:45 from 71.219.84.215

You are going to do GREAT!!! I am so excited for this race it is almost like I am running it!

Nice speed today!

From SlowJoe on Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 01:41:31 from 89.211.58.141

Thanks everyone.

Tracy - sorta...going to do a 15-miler next week (which is still "long" to me).

From Tracy on Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 07:55:20 from 173.23.75.96

I'd DEFINITELY consider that long, too!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.500.507.00

7 miles on an airbase in Qatar, avg 7:51.  Picked it up the last half-mile or so.

Looks like I'll be stuck here a few days.  As a rule, getting home from a deployment always has to be more complicated and time-consuming than going the other way.

1140s #1 Miles: 7.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From DonGardinero on Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 02:50:10 from 152.216.7.5

Good luck getting home. How long have yoiu been over there?

From SlowJoe on Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 06:07:35 from 89.211.58.141

thanks - I left the states on July 4th, so just a bit over 6 months.

From Tracy on Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 07:56:16 from 173.23.75.96

Well, good luck on the travels! Hopefully the complications don't sap too much of your energy!

From Rye on Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 15:06:17 from 174.27.73.180

Thanks for your service!

From seeaprilrun on Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 17:20:43 from 174.70.131.222

Hope you get home soon! I am in agreement with you--ready to taper and get things all fresh and snappy. I am definitely feeling it!

From flatlander on Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 20:13:46 from 76.31.26.153

Safe travels, glad you are heading home.

From Burt on Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 23:00:01 from 72.223.84.236

Make a pass at your commanding officer.

From SlowJoe'sGrl on Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 23:19:23 from 184.79.24.255

Burt! I read this blog. But, hey, if it'll get him here faster, whatever it takes.

From Burt on Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 23:23:28 from 72.223.84.236

Oops. I hear it works, though.

From SlowJoe on Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 02:16:33 from 89.211.58.138

Thanks all. Burt, don't you keep up with the news? I can make a pass at whoever I want now!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
9.000.009.00

7:51 AP.  It's a lot warmer here than in Baghdad (during winter) - it was 70F by the time I finished around 9am.  So, a pretty solid effort.

I'm realizing yesterday was my first day off work since July.  I almost did a double yesterday out of pure boredom, but first I counted the number of clean boxers in my overnight bag and decided it wouldn't work out.

1140s #1 Miles: 9.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Tracy on Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 14:01:23 from 67.175.121.130

Nice pace! Hope you enjoyed your first day off. Sorry that a lack of underpants made you stay bored. Hope you have the details about when you are getting back home.

From SlowJoe'sGrl on Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 14:11:52 from 184.79.24.255

Thanks for saving a pair of clean undies for the ride home.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
7.000.007.00

8:17 pace

1140s #1 Miles: 7.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From DonGardinero on Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 21:15:13 from 67.2.94.70

Did you make it home?

From Burt on Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 16:15:36 from 206.19.214.144

Is this some sort of - I'm in an airport, don't have time to blog properly - type of entry?

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.000.008.00

8 miles on a windy Abilene morning.  My first run back just wouldn't have been right without a steady 20+ mph south wind blowing...good to be home.  7:54 avg.

1140s #1 Miles: 8.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Tracy on Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 13:04:52 from 209.175.177.37

Like.

From Tracy on Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 13:05:34 from 209.175.177.37

Oh, wait. This isn't Facebook. Glad you arrived safely. Good luck adjusting to that wind.

From DonGardinero on Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 13:18:56 from 173.127.175.83

Welcome home!!! Nice homecoming run.

From SlowJoe on Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 13:24:16 from 184.79.24.255

Thanks Tracy, I'll definitely take the wind anyday.

Thanks DG.

From flatlander on Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 16:52:03 from 198.207.244.102

Nice run, glad you're back at it on your own turf.

From Colby Park on Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 01:45:26 from 139.139.35.70

Nice to see you back, Welcom Home and congrats. Hopefully this injury will go away and I can slowly get back into it.

From seeaprilrun on Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 08:10:44 from 68.103.248.137

Welcome home to the plains!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
13.001.0014.00

Wind out of the north, 25-35 mph today.  Yuck.  I decided to run an out-and-back with the first 7 mostly headwind, and the last 7 mostly tailwind.

Splits going out were 8:11, 8:18, 8:36, 8:43, 8:30, 8:14, 8:31.  Then 7:26, 7:19, 7:21, 7:21, 7:26, 7:33, 7:39.  AP 7:56.

I guess with the ridiculous wind it was ok (some of the headwind legs were almost comical when the big gusts hit), but I was actually falling apart a bit the last couple miles, which I don't think should've happened.  Oh well, I think I just need to get used to not running in perfect conditions anymore.

That was my last tough workout so I'm just hoping I did enough...we'll see!

1140s #1 Miles: 14.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From flatlander on Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 22:17:39 from 198.207.244.102

Thanks for the preview. I have that wind in the morning.

From Kelli on Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 22:50:03 from 71.219.84.215

You have done enough, the money is in the bank!! I am sure it was the wind that zapped you, it has a tendency to do that.

SO EXCITED for this race i can hardly stand it.

From Tracy on Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 08:08:41 from 173.23.75.96

Will there be a good (bad) amount of wind on Jan. 30? I hope not.

Good battle today! Pace looks good. You are ready!

From SlowJoe on Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 16:46:42 from 184.79.24.255

Flat - definitely no fun

Thanks for the vote of confidence Kelli, I think it'll either go really well or take 4+ hours, not sure which yet!

Tracy, so far the 10-day forecast is getting me excited: almost non-existent wind, and temps in the low 40s. We'll see what actually happens though, it's a ways out.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

8:24 pace.  Feeling a little slow/sluggish and out of sorts the last few days of running.  Hopefully just some of that "taper madness."

New Blue Asics Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Tracy on Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 15:13:12 from 209.175.177.37

Maybe it's exhaustion from your long overseas voyage. Luckily you still have a week!

From Burt on Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 15:20:57 from 206.19.214.144

Maybe it's exhaustion from your long overseas voyage. Luckily you still have a weak set of legs!

From Tracy on Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 15:23:47 from 209.175.177.37

You're so punny.

From SlowJoe on Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 16:51:09 from 184.79.24.255

Hey, does anyone think maybe it's exhaustion from my long overseas voyage?

From seeaprilrun on Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 18:52:11 from 68.103.248.137

It's the exhaustion from the long overseas voyage. Taper madness will kick in hardcore next week. I am already beginning to feel twinges of anxiety. You ran your 6 today faster than I ran my 6!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.452.007.45

5 easy, 2 fast (6:59, 6:57), then a short cooldown.  8:02 AP.  Still very slow and sluggish.  The 2 fast miles felt awful, way worse than they should've.  Could be the different diet, routine, etc, but I hope I'm back to normal soon!

Good news is Houston weather is looking pretty nice on the extended forecast so far.  Overnight low in the low-40s for the start and 6 mph winds.  Those are basically the same conditions I've been running in the past couple months.

1140s #2 Miles: 7.45
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Burt on Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 15:43:40 from 72.223.84.236

Except the American air is much better for you.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

8:09 pace.  Nothing special, but the pace and the effort finally matched up a lot closer today.  The last 3 or 4 runs 8:00 pace felt like 7:30 effort.

Tomorrow I'll do 3 MP miles and hopefully determine that I'm back to normal.

New Blue Asics Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From seeaprilrun on Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 19:26:25 from 68.103.248.137

Glad you felt good! Taper week screws with my head and I always feel like every run is feeling much harder than it should. Marathon pace is frighteningly uncomfortable, 9:00 pace feels like 7:30 pace...blah blah blah.

From Tracy on Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 19:28:38 from 173.23.75.96

Your mind's just messing with you. Even if you're not back to normal tomorrow, you're still going to rock!

From seeaprilrun on Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 19:49:49 from 68.103.248.137

Agree with Tracy. I checked the 10 day forecast, looks like temps will be perfect--we may get rained on some but I think that may serve as a pleasant diversion more than anything else.

From flatlander on Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 11:47:09 from 76.31.26.153

Can't wait to see how you do this weekend.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.000.008.00

5 easy, 3 GMP.  I felt great today, back to normal.  7:51 AP for the run, last 3 were 7:32, 7:33, 7:24 (faster than I will go on Sunday, but felt nice).  I even noticed once in my warmup, abaout a third of the way through the mile, that I was already at MP...good sign.  Whew, glad the race wasn't last week.

I feel pretty injury-free as well, just the standard tightness in my left hip flexor/groin that I've had most of the year - doesn't ever seem to affect anything.  The tendonitis took a couple months to go away, but it mostly has.  Both my tendon injuries in training for this marathon have actually been cured by not listening to my body and chowing down pills instead, while running through the uncomfortableness.  Not many people advocate that method.

Here are a couple homecoming pictures I've been meaning to post.

1140s #2 Miles: 8.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From seeaprilrun on Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 16:25:03 from 68.103.248.137

LOVE THE PICTURES! Glad MP felt so good! Can't wait to meet y'all Saturday! 6 days to THE BIG ONE!

From Mike on Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 16:29:05 from 144.183.224.2

Glad to see you're back Stateside. Good luck on the marathon!

From Rye on Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 23:04:58 from 174.27.126.197

Thats awesome!

From DonGardinero on Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 23:36:53 from 152.216.3.5

Priceless pictures!!!

Sounds like you're ready to roll on Sunday.

From flatlander on Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 16:09:30 from 198.207.244.102

Those are great pictures, thanks for posting them. I think more than a few of us handle injuries the same way.

From Burt on Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 17:47:18 from 206.19.214.144

Those are the happiest pictures EVER! Wait, is there a running post here?

From SlowJoe on Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 20:26:37 from 184.79.24.255

Looking forward to it April.

Thanks Mike, good to be back.

Thanks Rye.

DG - about as ready as I can get, I think.

Flat - they need a website where people post all the secrets about running you don't find in runner's world

Burt - I think my girls were at least at a 6:00 pace in the first one.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
4.002.006.00

3 easy, then 7:34, 7:10, 6:45 (an optimistic MP, HM, 10K pace).  7:33 AP.

1140s #1 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From flatlander on Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 17:37:02 from 198.207.244.102

Very nice. You gotta back off now.

From Kelli on Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 18:58:44 from 71.219.84.215

What is up with the speed! Here i was thinking I could visit your blog and April's and see some slow and easy stuff, but NOPE!!!!

GOOD LUCK, looking forward to the report. I wonder if there is somewhere i can get results quick? I am not going to be patient enough to wait. Maybe your wife better send me a text!

From seeaprilrun on Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 08:28:39 from 68.103.248.137

Nice Joe--haha, I cranked out a few faster ones at the end of my 6 miler too..legs felt good. Coming off the high(for me) mileage weeks these little 6 milers seem short. Kelli--you can sign up for free text or e-mail updates on the Houston marathon website--they update at 10k, half, 30k, and finish.

From Kelli on Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:06:50 from 71.219.84.215

OH, YEAH!!!! What are your bub numbers?????

From SlowJoe on Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 18:15:55 from 98.200.237.200

Ok, backed off today! Didn't want to get too lazy.

Kelli - my bib # is 1682

From Kelli on Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 19:55:23 from 71.219.84.215

OK, I found it. For anyone else wondering:

Text RUNNER to 54815 and you will get instructions on how to get 4 test alerts throughout the marathon.

I am going to have to sneak my phone into church---BAD!!!!!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

6 easy around my sister-in-law's neighborhood in Austin this morning, 8:10-8:20s.

We're now in Houston after spening the night in Austin.  Checked the forecast, and it's looking pretty crappy.  Warm and rainy.  I haven't run too much in the rain so I'm not sure what it does to performance - hopefully it's not too bad.  Maybe it'll even cool us off a bit?  Anyway, nothing I can do about so might as well suck it up.

Taking tomorrow off, then a short run (maybe in the rain?) on Saturday.  Race Sunday.

1140s #1 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From seeaprilrun on Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 18:46:32 from 68.103.248.137

Yep, I was just looking at that. Pros: no wind to speak of, and warm enough that if we do get rained on it won't be freezing. Cons: heavy rain can make shoes sloshy, but light rain and it's kinda nice. From what I gather, the rain really isn't supposed to start until later in the morning, so the chance of finishing the race before it starts is high. So really, on the optimistic side, 50s and overcast with no wind is pretty perfect weather--it may work out nicely!

From Tracy on Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 20:37:25 from 173.23.75.96

I'll be crossing my fingers that the rain stays away until late!

From SlowJoe on Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 22:15:17 from 98.200.237.200

Glad you are more optimistic than me! Surely it can't just pour the whole time though, might be sorta nice after all. As long as the thunder/lightning stays away and they have a race, I'll be happy

From DaleG on Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 22:35:31 from 152.216.7.5

If the forecast is for rain on race day, that could be a good thing. When I ran the St. George Marathon in '08, it poured the entire race. Just make sure to tape your nipples. lol. I believe the rain actually does keep a person cool. It has helped me a lot in the two marathons I've run with non-stop rain

From SlowJoe on Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 10:48:28 from 98.200.237.200

Thanks for the insight Dale, good to know it might've actually helped you.

From DaleG on Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 13:28:57 from 67.2.71.99

Glad I could help. The other marathon I ran in the rain was Utah Valley Marathon last year. I guess the fast people stayed ahead of the rain, but I was stuck in a torrential downpour most of the time. My shoes and everything on me was sopping wet. I bet I was carrying 10 extra lbs of water.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
3.080.003.08

Last 3 miles of matathon training before the race, mile 2 was at GMP.  3 miles really goes by in the blink of an eye now; a year ago that was probably my median distance run.

Weather check - 50% chance rain with scattered T-storms.  Temps in the 60s, winds 8 mph.  Not a lot to like except the wind.  As long as the lightning stays away though, and they have a race, I'll be happy - just looking to give a good effort and complete my first marathon, don't think there will be any 3:20 in the works or anything crazy like that.  Still hoping to beat 3:30 though...

Bib # is 1682 for any who want to look up results; I'll probably have a report up sometime Sunday night.

1140s #1 Miles: 3.08
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Tracy on Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 09:41:00 from 173.23.75.96

I was thinking that a few years ago, my current average of 5 miles a day would have seemed like a lot. Now I feel like I'm not doing much, "only" 5 miles :) It's all relative.

Good luck! Looking forward to hearing about your maiden voyage in the marathon!

From flatlander on Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 14:19:01 from 76.31.26.153

Looks like you tapered perfectly. If it rains during the race that will probably help a little bit with the mid-60s temps. Plus, it might be a little cooler than that.

Race: Houston Marathon (26.22 Miles) 03:25:59, Place overall: 424, Place in age division: 71
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
26.220.0026.22

Great day.  My first marathon was a success, and I beat my original goal of 3:30 by 4 minutes.

 

Night before – Danielle and I met April, April’s sister, and her friend for a carb-loading dinner.  It was awesome to meet April and pick her brain a little.  Mr. and Mrs. Flatlander also stopped by for awhile; it was great to finally meet Mark in person as well and talk a little running.  Hopefully I’ll be seeing more of these fellow FRBers in the future.

 

Race day – Weather predictions were all doom and gloom the night before, but the thunder and lightning stayed away on race day.  It rained off and on the entire race, soaking us to the bone, but at least we had a race.  The bad part was the unseasonable warmth.  The temps were in the mid-60s the whole time, with about 90% humidity.  I decided I better start slower; I even told Mark last night I would run 7:40s and 7:50s in the first half because of the heat.  I guess I lied.  Miraculously, we bumped into April before the race among the 20,000 participants and made our way to the starting line.  The mile splits below are from Garmin.

 

Miles 1-5: 8:02, 7:34, 7:36, 7:42, 7:42.  The gun went off and April and I started together.  I ran with her for about 3 steps and she was gone, picking her way through the crowd.  The first mile was really clogged up.  I noticed about an 8:30 pace about halfway into that first mile, but didn’t panic, and used it as a nice warmup.  Obviously it opened up a bit after that because I was in the 7:30s pretty quick.  5K was 24:04.  I focused on shortening my stride to keep the pace slower but I felt really great.

 

Miles 6-10: 7:33, 7:30, 7:39, 7:37, 7:36.  Whoops.  I started running by feel.  It felt so very easy, so I threw the conservative plan out the window and listened to my body.  That probably would’ve worked if it was 20 degrees cooler, but not today.  10K was 47:55.  I saw my dad around mile 8, which was awesome.  The crowd support was unreal – people lining the streets in the rain all 26 miles.  Here's a picture my dad took about 8 miles in:

 

Miles 11-15: 7:28, 7:35, 7:35, 7:38, 7:40.  Still feeling ridiculously great.  My plan was to hang around 3:20 pace just in case, and I was still right on it.  In mile 13, I ran right by my childhood best friend’s house and saw his mom out there – pretty cool.  I went through the half in 1:40:22 (nearly a PR) but was still breathing really easy and didn’t feel a big toll on my legs yet.

 

Miles 16-20:  7:37, 7:36, 7:50, 7:35, 7:49.  Ok, doubts started to creep in mile 18.  30K was still a great split, 2:22:51 (7:40 average so far).  I slowed down as the legs were starting to burn a bit in 18.  Then I inexplicably sped up in mile 19, feeling strong again – maybe I shouldn’t have done that.  By mile 20, I was giving more effort but the pace was starting to bleed out for good.

 

Miles 21-26.2: 7:55, 8:04, 8:19, 8:39, 8:58, 8:43, 2:27 (0.33 miles on garmin).  Cue death march.  Looking at the splits now, I thought it would be worse (wasn’t looking at my watch much at this point, but every time I did I thought I saw 9-something).  I saw my dad, brother and his fiancée at mile 23 (brother lives in an apartment right on the course).  I faked a smile for them, and then went back to pathetically staring at the cement 3 feet in front of me.  My lovely wife had finished her half marathon and was there cheering for me with about a tenth of a mile to go!  I saw the clock, and put on a furious sprint (8:00 pace was a sprint) and officially beat 3:26 by a second to get a 3:25:59!  I think the bonk should be mostly attributed to going too fast in the early miles on a hot, muggy day.  Still, it wasn’t an aerobic wall – I actually caught my breath a little but just could not will myself to pick up the pace.  So, I gotta think part of it was also mental, but maybe part fueling?  I had a total of 5 gu and took Gatorade pretty much every stop.  Weird to think that wasn’t enough, but my stomach felt fine and I could probably tolerate more; I really think I was burning fats at the end, but I’m not experienced enough to know for sure.  A real learning experience, but I’m still really, really happy with the time given the conditions.  Here's the smile I faked at mile 23 - looks like I am barely moving!

 

After the race I very slowly went to meet Danielle.  It was then that I got light-headed and she told me to sit down.  I obeyed, and started to feel a bit better.  When April and company found us (April looked much more lively than me, after her awesome PR), I managed to get up and sorta tried to pretend I wasn’t as exhausted as I was, but I still looked terrible I bet.  It took me awhile but I am feeling better now.

 

Some stats from runpix – I finished top 6% overall, top 8% of men and top 12% of my age group.  That also feels pretty good, because it lets me know everyone struggled as well.  First half was 1:40:22 (7:39 pace), second half was 1:45:37 (8:03 pace).  My first 20 miles was 2:32:54 (7:39 pace).  Last 10K was 53:05 (8:32 pace).  So there it is.

 

Anyway, definitely a successful day.  I would love to make a run at BQ at this race in 1 year, so back to training.  Danielle and I are hoping to run Oklahoma City again in 3 months if work allows.  Not sure yet whether I want to do another full already, or maybe just the half.  But Boston is officially on the brain now!

1140s #2 Miles: 26.22
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Jon on Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 20:56:56 from 74.177.100.209

That's a good time for your first marathon, especially your relative lack of slowdown. Nice job.

From Tom Slick on Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 21:15:59 from 69.171.160.89

Congrats on bringing a plan all together! Great race, great report, Super time for your first marathon....Nows the time to pick your effort apart so you'll do even better the next time out!!!!!Congrats again!

From Bec on Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 21:19:37 from 71.199.12.198

Great first-time marathon! Sounds like you had a nice and enjoyable experience.

From flatlander on Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 22:51:13 from 76.31.26.153

That was truly a great first marathon. I was watching your 5K splits live and I knew exactly what had happened to you the last 10K, but you fought through it very well. I had a friend who ran 3:17 about 2 months ago and he ran 3:34 today, just to put things in perspective. Even allowing that he maybe had a bad day, I think you gave up at least 10 minutes to the heat, Boston is definitely in your crosshairs. Thanks for letting us crash your party last night, it was great to meet you, Danielle and April. Congratulations again.

From seeaprilrun on Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 23:44:25 from 68.103.248.137

Outstanding first marathon Joe! Your 10k "death march" was actually relatively mild and not near the crash that it is for many! You fought well and ran an excellent time! I think in better conditions the toll would have definitely been less and made for a better 6 miles! You did AWESOME and it was great to meet you and Danielle! I am really glad I had someone to nervously chatter with on the start line while we waited for the show to start!

From Bonnie on Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 00:49:21 from 64.119.33.134

Congratulations, you are a marathoner now! I was happy to see you beat your "under 3:30" by so much!!

And ... welcome home.

From DaleG on Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 00:56:37 from 67.2.65.133

Congratulations on your first marathon!!! I'd say you did fantastic. Man, there were a lot of fast people in your age group. Thanks for showing the pictures. Very cool.

Just one question: Did you tape your nipples? LOL

From Burt on Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 01:26:04 from 72.223.90.79

A blogger extravaganza! Okay, the first thing I have to say is that I thought I clicked on April's race report. Then I scrolled all the way to the bottom and saw Dale saying something about taping your nipples. What the...? Anyway, awesome job! All that training paid off. And the death march wasn't that bad. It felt worse than it was because you had been running at such a consistent rate the whole time. And it was a year ago yesterday that I met Flatlander. He's a lot cooler in person, huh?

From Tracy on Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 09:39:45 from 209.175.177.37

Congrats on the great race! Cool pics!

From Marathon Dreamer on Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 10:47:54 from 174.254.88.227

Awesome first Marathon!!! That last 10k is usually the hardest part... but that last 10k does get easier with future marathons!!! Congratulations! !!!

From Rye on Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 11:34:51 from 168.103.139.210

Congrats on a successful race! Are you going to make it a habit now to train in the middle east in preperation for your next marathon? Great pics. Treat yourself to something!!!!

From Kelli on Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 15:46:53 from 173.8.92.196

TOP 6%?? That is nothing to sneeze at. you had an incredible first marathon DESPITE the weather. I love the rain, but the heat and humidity would have done me in for sure! And, just so you know, the last 6 miles are always a death march---you did nothing wrong!

NICELY DONE!

From SlowJoe on Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 18:26:49 from 184.79.24.255

Thanks Jon, nice to hear the words "lack of slowdown" after that.

I appreciate that Tom, the hamster wheel upstairs is definitely spinning on how to improve.

Bec - definitely had a great time....mostly!

Flat - really glad you stopped by. Sorry your friend had a rough day, but I have to admit it makes me feel good about my race.

April - your company definitely made the whole marathon experience even better, it was great meeting you and your sister and friend. Hope we can all do it again sometime.

Thanks Bonnie, it's been an awesome week or two for sure!

Dale - no bleeding nipples, but the soggy shoes gave me 1 decent blister on a toe.

Burt - yeah that would've been an awkward question on a different blog. Flatlander is pretty cool on the blog too, but I agree!

Thanks Tracy, it was nice to have a couple of race pics that didn't cost $29.95.

MD - I'm glad to hear you say that. I really am!

Rye - I did get in some good training in Iraq...but....no!

Thanks Kelli - it felt very wrong! But running 26 miles is not a normal thing for me, so I'll take it for sure!

From Kelli on Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 18:36:20 from 71.219.84.215

Funny thing, I have run one marathon where it rained the entire time and it is the ONLY time I did not get so much as a blister or lose a toenail!!! Bummer it did not work that way for you!

Running a marathon is like giving birth, you forget how bad it is quickly. Wait, you are a guy. Ask your wife, you have two kids to prove that theory.

REST UP and take care.

From daceg on Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 23:56:37 from 24.49.167.230

Congrats on the first one. That is a great time! Each one after this gets easier to work out. Keep runnin'

From ChrisM on Tue, Feb 01, 2011 at 08:12:43 from 217.171.129.72

congratulations on the race - that is an extremely impressive first marathon

You get to join the club of the 1% of first time marathoners that do not suffer any spectacular slow down, running only 5 mins slower the second half

Time to change your name to fastjoe!

From Kam on Tue, Feb 01, 2011 at 14:36:22 from 68.66.163.179

Great job on the race. 3:26 was my first marathon time, but it wasn't an even race at all! BQ is definitely in your cross-hairs.

From SlowJoe on Tue, Feb 01, 2011 at 17:50:27 from 184.79.24.255

That is funny Kelli, this wet day was the first time I have ever gotten a blister in a race.

daceg - thanks, knowing what pace to set seems tricky for sure.

Thanks Chris - as horrible as it felt, I guess 5 minutes isn't too bad when you think of it like that. Guess marathons are hard...no one told me that.

Thanks Kam, BQ feels pretty far away right now but I'm excited to see what some consistent high-mileage weeks can do.

From Mike on Sat, Feb 05, 2011 at 13:39:50 from 71.195.187.76

It's good to see that all the training paid off. Nice work!

From Jason McK on Mon, Feb 07, 2011 at 11:30:07 from 63.255.173.99

Great marathon! Keep up the (s)miles.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
0.000.000.00

2 days later, and still pretty sore.  My quads were obliterated.  Next in line in order of soreness are the hip flexors, groin for some reason, hammys and shins.  Guess I didn't ever run fast enoug to hurt the calves.  I'm hoping to be able to jog a couple miles tomorrow, but we'll see.  It's gonna have to be on the treadmill thanks to the winter storm.  We have single-digit lows the next couple days, a lot of snow (for Texas) and windchills below zero!  I'm really not equipped for all that.

Not that it really means anything but I compared my relative gender and age group placings to 2010 results when they had better, more typical conditions and those finishers were in the 3:21-3:22 range.  Can't put too much stock in that though, but it is a nice sanity check.

So, thinking finally about goals and races for this year...  Maintain 50+ mile weeks and very slowly work my way up to 60s.  For this spring, I want to run a couple local 5Ks (inch closer to sub-20), the Capitol 10K in Austin if work allows (sub-43, it's a tough course), and either a half or a full at OKC (get below 1:35 or 3:20).  This summer will be base-building - too hot to race much in TX.  This fall, I would like to run either the half or full here in Abilene in October if they have it, and finally Houston in January 2012 where I hope I'm ready for a 3:10:59.  Probably need to be injury-free all year to pull it all off, so that is a goal as well.

Weight: 0.00
Comments
From flatlander on Tue, Feb 01, 2011 at 12:49:51 from 198.207.244.102

Take it slow coming back, don't be like me. (Now is the time to live up to your name.) Sounds like a good year shaping up for you. When is the Capitol 10K?

From I Just Run on Tue, Feb 01, 2011 at 14:53:11 from 67.79.11.242

Hi SlowJoe,

Just read your race report....Wow...Looks like you really did well in the race. Congradulations, I bet you're excited for you're next race to improve and compare! BTW...I live near San Marcos, just started running last year and found the Blog a couple of weeks ago. I notice you're friends with Flatlander, I've been talking him quite a bit. Let me know if you ever plan to race in Austin or San Antonio. Good to meet you.

From seeaprilrun on Tue, Feb 01, 2011 at 15:11:56 from 68.103.248.137

Sounds like a good plan! My quads are wasted as well. I definitely have Houston on my agenda for next year--it is the best marathon I have ever run as far as spectator support. There are no lonely parts on that course and I think in better conditions it is definitely a fast course. Also, for such a massive race, the organization is unrivaled.

From Rye on Tue, Feb 01, 2011 at 17:34:11 from 174.27.103.253

Great plan you have going into this year. Come back slow and you should be fine. Slow and steady does win the race! Well, sort of. What kind of storm are you having in Texas?

From SlowJoe on Tue, Feb 01, 2011 at 18:07:00 from 184.79.24.255

Mark - Capitol 10k is March 27. I think I might have an execise that weekend, now that I look at it, but I highly recommend the race. Lots of entertainment along the course, and was well-organized by pace.

IJR - thanks and a belated welcome to the blog, nice to have another Texan around. I'm sure our paths will cross one of these days.

April - agree with everything you said about Houston...just hoping we can win the lotto again (if they have one).

Rye - the storm part came already and dropped a bunch of ice and snow, but the wind is making it miserable! Everything is closed because it's Texas and no one knows what to do.

From Burt on Tue, Feb 01, 2011 at 22:36:21 from 206.213.44.111

Well, as your #1 friend, let me say that you need to take it real easy. Do like the elites and take some serious time off. Your recovery runs need to be at a snail's pace. Also, when that cold weather strikes, rub your body in butter.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
2.000.002.00

Hit the TM because of the ice and wind chill, and walked for a half-mile, stretched, then ran 1 @ 6 mph and 1 @ 7 mph.

Since I'm normally in the habit of only showering after a run, it's been 3 days since my last shower.  Just thought I'd share that.

1140s #1 Miles: 2.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From seeaprilrun on Wed, Feb 02, 2011 at 19:55:06 from 68.103.248.137

Oh my! Cough. Ahem. Well, how did your legs feel on the run?

From Kelli on Wed, Feb 02, 2011 at 21:56:32 from 71.219.84.215

Please shower! I can smell ya from here.

Actually, when it is that cold, no one stinks so I think you are good.

From SlowJoe on Wed, Feb 02, 2011 at 22:06:40 from 184.79.24.255

Quads still a little sore, but I think a little jogging helped them.

Kelli - I know, how bad could I have been if I never sweated? Anyway, I'm good and clean now.

From Kelli on Wed, Feb 02, 2011 at 22:07:28 from 71.219.84.215

THANKS, we appreciate it. Nice to see you are running so soon. Please avoid the ice.

From DaleG on Wed, Feb 02, 2011 at 22:21:43 from 152.216.7.5

It seems to be brutally cold and windy just about everywhere. I can't wait for spring.

As for not showering, I did that a couple of weeks ago, indavertantly. I did three good runs and completely forgot to take a shower for three days because we had so many things going on. It completely slipped my mind.

From SlowJoe on Wed, Feb 02, 2011 at 22:41:02 from 184.79.24.255

See, the running automatically triggers the signal to shower in my brain. If I ever stop running I'm in big trouble...actually it's everyone else that's in trouble.

From DaleG on Wed, Feb 02, 2011 at 23:05:56 from 152.216.7.5

I'm surprised my family didn't tell me I smelled badly. Maybe I didn't. That would be a first.

From Tracy on Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 08:06:45 from 173.23.75.96

Glad you finally broke down and washed some stink off!

From Rye on Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 16:45:26 from 71.209.59.65

I wonder what the non runners do to trigger body cleansing. Joe, you stink...

From SlowJoe on Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 20:29:12 from 184.79.24.255

In the olden days, back in '09, I think I used to shower right after I woke up. What was the point?

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
3.000.003.00

Another run, another shower.  3 on the TM @ 8:53 AP.  No soreness detected this time - really thankful to have made it through the race uninjured.  Gonna be stuck with the TM tomorrow as well, but I think a lot of the snow and ice will melt on Saturday afternoon.  The roads are still like ice rinks right now.

New Blue Asics Miles: 3.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From seeaprilrun on Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 16:40:01 from 68.103.248.137

Yeah! Sounds like a successful run and recovery! Your legs will be back in business in no time.

From Tracy on Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 16:52:14 from 209.175.177.37

Hope it all melts quickly. Glad you worked up the determination to shower.

From flatlander on Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 22:26:20 from 76.31.26.153

Recovering very quickly. Like your new picture.

From SlowJoe on Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 15:15:01 from 184.79.24.255

April - excited to get back to training for the next one.

Tracy - when you put your mind to it, anything is possible.

Thanks Flat, Danielle took it in the last tenth of a mile...I like the look of agony and pain.

From seeaprilrun on Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 17:40:42 from 68.103.248.137

I'm glad you are already forgetting the agony enough to want to do another one! In mile 24 I always think about what a dumb idea marathoning is. :)

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
4.750.255.00

8:39 AP on the treadmill.  Picked up the pace a little at the end to see how it felt...felt good.  Should be able to run outside in the afternoon tomorrow.

1140s #1 Miles: 5.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From seeaprilrun on Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 17:39:02 from 68.103.248.137

Recovery looks nearly complete! Enjoy the great outdoors tomorrow!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
7.000.007.00

Man that felt great, awesome day.  I ran after lunch, and it had warmed up to about 50 degrees, with a little breeze and blue skies.  I was out there sweating with shorts and a t-shirt and a bunch of snow on the ground.  Kinda wanted to just keep running, but I'm gonna play it safe the next week or so before loading up the miles again.  8:02 AP.

New Blue Asics Miles: 7.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Rye on Sat, Feb 05, 2011 at 16:42:42 from 71.209.7.191

Great weather and run! How much snow is on the ground? Or should I ask how much did you have? I am sure with 50 degrees it's not sticking around.

From seeaprilrun on Sat, Feb 05, 2011 at 18:59:01 from 68.103.248.137

Sounds awesome! I'm with you on some easy miles next week!

From SlowJoe on Sat, Feb 05, 2011 at 19:03:03 from 184.79.24.255

We got 4-6 inches a few days ago (that's a lot for us). Looks like most of it will be gone by the time it goes back below freezing tonight.

From DaleG on Sun, Feb 06, 2011 at 03:12:45 from 174.52.230.9

Awesome!!! Glad you had a good run. It was pretty nice up here today, too, and all the snow has melted. But I think another snowstorm is on the way.

From Burt on Sun, Feb 06, 2011 at 03:57:04 from 206.213.40.111

Remember when you used to be slow?

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.001.009.00

Another really nice day for running: 40F, and a little breezy.  I gradually picked up the pace a little on the way back home with the nice tailwind thanks to the north wind.  7:45 avg.

My R&R is now over and I go back to work tomorrow, back to the real world.  I think I'm going to set Monday as my day off, running-wise.

1140s #2 Miles: 9.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Kelli on Sun, Feb 06, 2011 at 14:04:21 from 71.219.84.215

Everyone needs a day off....or a week or a month. Monday sounds as good as any.

Glad to see you are back at it and doing well!

Nice pic.

From seeaprilrun on Sun, Feb 06, 2011 at 18:15:35 from 68.103.248.137

One week and recovery is complete and without injury! Nice! So...ya doing the full or the half in Oklahoma?

From SlowJoe on Sun, Feb 06, 2011 at 22:29:28 from 184.79.24.255

Thanks Kelli - I bet it will only be a week for you.

Ya know April, I think I'll end up doing the full. Danielle's hometown has a HM on March 19, so I'm hoping I can pick up an easy PR, and hopefully be ready for a 3:20 at OKC. If you haven't found a HM before Eisenhower, you should come do it at OKC; it's not until May 1. Hopefully it's not too warm or windy.

From Kelli on Sun, Feb 06, 2011 at 23:52:19 from 71.219.84.215

It already has been a week....and it is not looking good! But, oh well. Nothing can be done.

Planning the next marathon already, huh??? You guys are animals.

From Rye on Mon, Feb 07, 2011 at 17:22:29 from 75.167.131.224

Nice... you are an animal!

From DaleG on Mon, Feb 07, 2011 at 23:35:27 from 152.216.7.5

Yes, Monday's are a good day to rest. Too bad youi have to go back to work.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
7.000.007.00

36F, winds 15-18mph, 26F windchill.  Wind felt a little stronger than that (was running 9:00-9:05 on headwind legs) but close enough.  Weather looks twice as miserable tomorrow though.  Today was my first early-morning run in awhile, I forgot how much I hate them.  8:17 AP.

New Blue Asics Miles: 7.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From DaleG on Tue, Feb 08, 2011 at 11:14:45 from 173.150.253.175

Yes, early morning runs are brutal. I need to be fully awake and move around for while before I can run. Nice job in tough conditions.

From seeaprilrun on Tue, Feb 08, 2011 at 11:38:51 from 72.205.231.214

Early morning runs are terribly brutal, especially when the transition from warm bed to sub-freezing temps and wind is abrupt.

From SlowJoe on Tue, Feb 08, 2011 at 12:06:13 from 131.59.200.82

Yeah I have the same problem as y'all - today I started out slow and still felt horrible for 4 or 5 miles.

From flatlander on Tue, Feb 08, 2011 at 20:25:43 from 198.207.244.102

It's the late night runs that are brutal for me. I would rather be fat. I think we are getting your weather tonight.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
4.002.006.00

This morning I woke up to a temperature of 9F, with the windchill at -9.  Soooo, I took some gym clothes to work; by lunch it warmed up to -4 windchill.  Soooo, I hit the gym treadmills but it was hot inside and I was sweating buckets.  Soooo, I sped up the last couple miles to get it over with.  7:42 AP.

Tomorrow morning looks ridiculously cold too, but the afternoon looks perfect; I will be back out on the roads tomorrow and maybe get in some better mileage.

1140s #1 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Burt on Wed, Feb 09, 2011 at 14:04:38 from 206.19.214.144

Good call on speeding it up once you started sweating buckets. Keep up the good work. 92 rules!

From SlowJoe'sGrl on Wed, Feb 09, 2011 at 14:30:20 from 184.79.24.255

I saw you at the gym and it really wasn't that hot in there. Just sayin'. But good job on speeding it up.

From Rye on Wed, Feb 09, 2011 at 19:13:14 from 174.27.127.67

Yuck! What's going on in Texas with the temps.... It appears to me that you had better watch out for stalkers at your gym....

From SlowJoe on Wed, Feb 09, 2011 at 22:43:30 from 184.79.24.255

I knew you would agree with my logic Burt.

Danielle - are you saying I didn't sweat buckets?

Not sure Rye, I think we're getting our cold-weather appreciation week. And I did a little revenge stalking at her Pump-it class.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.001.029.02

Too cold in the morning, but I went out at lunch and ran on the county roads behind the base in Tye.  Perfect.  Mid-30s, and very little wind with clear skies.  Would love to repeat this running weather 365 days a year.  I liked the new route a lot too, the country roads were mostly paved and had no traffic.  I ended up with a natural progression in pace for the run, averaging 7:41 overall.

Then I had Burger King for the 3rd time this week.  Probably a trend I should try to curb in the future...

1140s #2 Miles: 9.02
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From flatlander on Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 15:49:56 from 198.207.244.102

Nah, just run double and go to Smashburger.

From seeaprilrun on Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 20:13:50 from 72.205.231.214

Burger King(gag). Nice miles, nice pace, you have survived and recovered from number one unscathed. Oklahoma is looking good!

From I Just Run on Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 10:35:15 from 67.79.11.242

Personally I like Whataburger...!

From SlowJoe on Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 12:50:25 from 131.59.200.80

Flat - haven't been to smashburger, maybe next time I'm in Htown.

Looking forward to ramping it up again April.

IJR - Whataburger is my favorite too. Unfortunately it's a 10-15 minute drive and BK is a 90-second drive.

From I Just Run on Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 12:54:46 from 67.79.11.242

Hey SloeJoe,

You should just run over to Whataburger...get you run in and have a better burger!

From SlowJoe on Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 12:58:39 from 131.59.200.80

Good idea, although I'd have to walk back to work after putting away a #2.

From I Just Run on Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 13:23:12 from 166.205.14.234

I'd go for the #5 and call a taxi!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.000.005.00

5 laps around the 1-mile track on base, 7:57 avg.

I took the Garmin and found out it's not measured exactly from the inside, probably closer to the center.  I ran twice on the outside and twice on the inside (the track is only about 6 feet wide but turns/winds a lot).  0.98 from the inside and 1.03 running on the outside.  Pretty nerdy thing to do to amuse myself but whatever.

New Blue Asics Miles: 5.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Tracy on Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 13:18:37 from 209.175.177.37

I'd probably do the same thing!

From SlowJoe'sGrl on Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 13:22:05 from 184.79.24.255

Thanks for doing those calculations. I've run 14 miles around that track before, and the .03 starts to make a difference.

From seeaprilrun on Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 09:21:40 from 72.205.231.214

I would've measured it too. 14x.03 is .42 so wow that is like half a mile added--that .03 does make a difference. There is my nerd calculation for the day.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.000.008.00

I got the last pair of 1140s in my size on the internet (that are also under $50) in the mail, along with the next year's version (still outdated, and also less than $50).  Pretty happy about that.

Temp was about 26F, but very little wind again.  Did my 8-mile loop, AP 7:47.  I'm thinking about doing some HM goal pace tempo work tomorrow in my 12-miler.

1140s #3 Miles: 8.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Tracy on Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 12:41:54 from 173.23.75.96

I love a good bargain! Good pace. I don't know when you updated your short-term goals, but they look good! But your goal time for the 10K is not ambitious enough :)

From seeaprilrun on Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 13:22:09 from 72.205.231.214

Sweet! I am always thrilled to get a pair of running shoes for $50 or less!

From DaleG on Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 02:08:20 from 67.2.69.121

Good deal on the shoes. I can't ever find shoes for that price. Nice job.

Isn't it supposed to be pretty warm down there? It's like we've switched weather with you. Up here in Ogden, it was 51 degrees. It was so nice being outside today.

From SlowJoe on Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:42:21 from 184.79.24.255

Thanks Tracy, the 10k I'm looking at isn't until April so I'm hoping you're right!

April - what did people ever do before the internet?

Dale - yep, we're gonna be in the 70s this afternoon...pretty soon I'll be complaining about heat instead. Always something to complain about.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
7.005.0012.00

Loving the weather lately - mid 40s this morning, 10 mph winds.  Goal for today was 7 easy, 5 @ HMP (7:10-7:15 target)

7 easy:  8:09, 8:19, 8:13, 8:05, 7:51, 8:02, 7:59 (8:05 AP)

5 fast:  7:12, 7:01, 7:03, 6:52, 6:34 (6:56 AP)

7:37 AP overall

So as usual I got carried away at the end but I was definitely due for a workout and it felt nice to let loose a little.  Next week, I'll be back to higher mileage (50s for me) and more tempos.

1140s #2 Miles: 12.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Kelli on Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 16:57:53 from 71.219.84.215

What you people call EASY astonished me!!

Nice workout!

From flatlander on Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 21:47:27 from 76.31.26.153

Yep, a little carried away. Amazing you can do mid 6s after running 11 miles. I can't wait to try out the warm weather in the morning.

From SlowJoe on Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 15:07:53 from 131.59.200.80

Kelli - I probably always go too fast on the "easy" miles, but I don't feel like changing my ways.

Flat - surprised myself a little, most of the speed was in the last half-mile though.

From Rye on Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 17:02:11 from 168.103.137.186

Nice fastjoe

From Kelli on Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 22:49:46 from 71.219.84.215

EVERYONE has their thing, we all do what works! Today i sped up for the last quarter of a mile and I was gasping for breath. I was running a 7:03! How did i run an entire marathon at a 7:08??? I do not train the way I race, that is for darn sure. Fast to me is anything under 8:34.

From Burt on Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 23:02:37 from 72.223.90.79

Joe - you're an enigma. How did you get so fast?

From SlowJoe on Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 10:09:53 from 131.59.200.82

Thanks Rye

Kelli - yeah I can't comprehend a marathon at that pace, you must have another gear us mortals don't have!

Burt - Flubber. That's how. I still can't run a mile as fast as you though.

From seeaprilrun on Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 11:30:14 from 72.205.231.214

wow Joe--I wouldn't change my ways either if I felt that good going so fast--you really know how to finish strong!

From Kelli on Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 13:30:29 from 71.219.84.215

It wasn't me, I was possessed. AND I know for a fact you will be surpassing that time very soon!!!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.004.0010.00

More tempo.  Must get faster before half marathon next month.  Actually, I felt pretty crappy today - big difference from Sunday's workout.  I did 6 easy, then 4 tempo (target 7:00-7:10).  The 4 tempo were 7:00, 7:02, 7:09, 7:12.  I actually quit after the 3rd mile and started jogging since it was getting way too hard but then I felt like a total wimp.  After about a minute of 8:30 pace, I sped up again and almost brought the last mile down to my target.  So a small victory on an otherwise "off" day.

7:42 AP.

1140s #2 Miles: 10.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From seeaprilrun on Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 11:31:14 from 72.205.231.214

It is commendable that you got it done even when you felt rough! It is hard to do two tempo runs that close together--probably why this one didn't go so well. You are going to crush your PR, no worries!

From I Just Run on Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 16:06:58 from 67.79.11.242

I've heard "Small Victories" win the War...maybe that applies to running races too..! I'm out of time to get faster, my race is this Sunday!

From SlowJoe on Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 19:31:16 from 184.79.24.255

April - yeah you're probably right, the wind was down today so I couldn't resist.

IJR - you have some good training going into your half, it's gonna be good.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.000.005.00

8:15 AP, anticipating some MP work tomorrow.

New Blue Asics Miles: 5.00
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
11.000.0011.00

Computer said 60F, wind S 21-28 mph as I left to go run this morning...felt about right.  We were overdue for the stupid wind to come back.  Plan was 5 easy then 6 @ MP (target 7:35), but the conditions made doing any specific pace work kinda pointless.  MP was about a 6:45 effort going south and 8:00 effort going north.  So let's just say I ran 11 miles and moved my feet a little faster for the last 6.

7:59 AP overall.

1 weird thing happened - on the way back I was running on a sidewalk, approaching the driveway of an apartment complex.  Someone was driving out of the complex, and I made sure I had eye contact with him.  Then, looking at me the whole time, he continues out of the driveway and stops right in the middle of the sidewalk and I had to come to a quick stop to avoid running into the side of his truck.  Then he continues to just stare at me as if to say, "yep, that just happened...what now?"  A younger slowjoe would not have let it go so easily but I just trotted around and continued on my way.

1140s #3 Miles: 11.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Tracy on Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 10:12:52 from 209.175.177.37

SlowJoe versus a truck. Who will win?

From Rye on Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:28:37 from 208.45.117.27

Are you saying that age makes us wiser? Must be a mature father! Keep a rock in your hand. Works for dogs...probably would work for a dead beat like the one you crossed this morning.

From seeaprilrun on Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:46:50 from 72.205.231.214

What a jerk! It would have been hard not to at least spout off a few choice words.

From seeaprilrun on Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 13:13:48 from 72.205.231.214

And yeah, that south wind is out in full force today. I guess it's something to get used to before April marathons which promise to be windy in the midwest.

From SlowJoe'sGrl on Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 13:24:30 from 184.79.24.255

That's insane. What is wrong with people? The same thing happened to me at the park on Saturday. It wasn't quite as overt, but still someone sped right in front of me and was looking at me the entire time. Not to mention, I was on a jogging trail. Weird!

From flatlander on Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 18:22:47 from 198.207.244.102

I think there is a residual but significant element of antipathy out there against runners. Possibly getting worse because of all the people that are running now. Good job not reacting, I probably would have.

From SlowJoe on Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 23:12:53 from 184.79.24.255

Tracy - slowjoe, definitely slowjoe

Rye - figures, the one day I don't run with rocks in my hands.

April - yeah I pretty much thought "oklahoma city preview" as I was running this morning.

Danielle - not much of a running town I think. People here wonder why anyone would be running when they could be hunting!

Flat - I think this guy was on his way to an all-you-can-eat breakfast buffet

From DaleG on Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 23:36:19 from 152.216.7.5

What a creep. I've had many incidents like that.

From SlowJoe on Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 09:55:49 from 131.59.200.80

Normally I run away from town on county roads...now I remember why!

From Burt on Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 12:28:16 from 206.19.214.144

April and Mark know that I've been in situations like this many times, and I know how to handle them with grace and dignity:

http://burt-mccumber.fastrunningblog.com/blog--Everybody-knows-I-m-good-guy-righ/12-08-2009.html

From Tracy on Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 12:33:44 from 209.175.177.37

Pretty hilarious, Burt. Only you...

From SlowJoe on Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 14:27:55 from 131.59.200.82

Glad that one ended well Burt, well done!

It's too bad everyone in TX has a gun in their glove box. The big story in Abilene this past week was a road rage battle between 2 guys - they both stopped, got out, pulled their respective guns out (everyone here has them) and one of them got a bullet to the face. I guess I've been extra courteous lately!

From Burt on Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 14:36:08 from 206.19.214.144

It's hard to argue with a bullet in your face. Unless you're trying to prove how painful it is. Then it's hard not to argue with a bullet in your face.

From SlowJoe on Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 14:43:35 from 131.59.200.82

Well said.

From seeaprilrun on Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 17:50:36 from 72.205.231.214

Haha out here in the sticks in Kansas we all have guns too.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

8:08 pace.  Wind today?  Calm.  Would've been a nice day for a workout, oh well.

New Blue Asics Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Tracy on Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 09:57:15 from 209.175.177.37

Too bad you didn't get to take advantage of the calm day...wind is crazy this time of year.

But maybe it'll stay like that for a while.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.000.008.00

I did 8 at a 7:54 avg (sped up a little the last couple miles) this morning.  Then took the kids to go watch Danielle run a local 5k and get a ridiculously large PR.  The kids had a lot of fun watching mommy finish fast!

* So I was browsing the discussion boards and saw someone linked this article: http://www.boston.com/sports/marathon/blog/2011/02/baa_announces_new_procedures_f.html

Basically the BQ time goes down 5 minutes for everyone for 2013.  If I were to qualify in Houston with a 3:10 in 2012, it wouldn't be fast enough because the earliest I could run Boston would be 2013 (needing a 3:05)!  Also, they will base when you can register on how much you beat your qualifying time.  So it looks like I will be working at this for quite sometime before I can run in the big one.  I'm thinking I'll need under 3 hours for sure, which will take years if I ever get there!  Turning 35 in 3 years will help, I guess.  Kinda disappointing, but in a weird way I'm excited that it is harder (more special?) and I'll be able to chase that now-far-away goal a lot longer.  I guess I was late to the party with the whole running craze.

1140s #2 Miles: 8.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From flatlander on Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 12:24:11 from 76.31.26.153

Good job and great times. Congrats to Danielle.

From seeaprilrun on Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 15:35:39 from 72.205.231.214

Congratulations to Danielle! Nice run! sub-3 may not be so far away as you think.

From Rye on Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 02:23:57 from 174.27.80.234

Nice run today. I love goals that make you stretch. You are capable of a lot. Just think how much you have improved this year!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
11.003.0014.00

62F, 80% humidity.  The forecast was calling for a lot of wind, so I had Danielle drop me off 14 miles from the house so I could do a point-to-point.  Naturally, the strong wind didn't really materialize but it was fun to run some new roads; hopefully I can convince her to do this more often.

I did a progressive run today (more or less), splits were 8:08, 7:57, 8:06, 8:00, 7:47, 7:49, 7:35, 7:33, 7:33, 7:36, 7:28, 7:19, 7:12, 6:54.

AP 7:38.

Interesting that I ended up averaging goal pace for the OKC full.  Felt a little too hard today.  I felt really hot and sweated huge amounts, but I better get used to it because this could easily be the weather for OKC (plus more wind).  May 1st is a little too late to have a marathon down south in my opinion, I wish it was sooner.  I might just be running it for the experience, which is ok too.

1140s #3 Miles: 14.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From seeaprilrun on Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 22:00:15 from 72.205.231.214

That's a sweet run, and probably should feel challenging in the weather! I'm with you on despising heat..and May is definitely asking for some heat...wasn't it unseasonably hot last year?

From flatlander on Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 10:16:24 from 75.214.144.72

I think average pace for a progression run represents a harder effort than running it with even splits, so I wouldn't worry too much, and you have two more months to get ready, a lot can happen in two months. You are right about the heat though, best to get used to it, seems like we are all going to be running in it a lot this year. But for you this must be child's play after running in Iraq.

From SlowJoe on Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 10:35:19 from 131.59.200.80

Thanks April, the temps were ok last year at OKC - I believe they were in the 50s to start the race. This year they are holding it a week later though, so who knows what we'll get.

Flat - yeah, the run I just did today illustrates (at least for me) there's a huge difference between running in 60s and 30s. But I guess the thing about a race is everyone has the same weather, good or bad!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
2.630.503.13

I ran on my off day...took the racing flats out for a spin and did a couple 400s at 5K pace.  It was too nice a morning to pass up.

Saucony A4 Miles: 3.13
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.005.0010.00

31F, calm winds.  I got my confidence boost for the month today; probably had my best training run to date!  Goal was easy 5, fast 5, with the only requirement for the fast miles being under 7:15.

Easy 5 - 8:13 AP

Fast 5 - 6:44 AP  Splits: 7:05, 7:00, 6:34, 6:36, 6:24.

Overall AP 7:29

Breakthrough, I think.  I went to Garmin Connect to see what my last 3.1 miles was, and I ran it in 20:19.  So a really big 5K PR after already doing a couple tempo miles.  I gotta think I mighta broken 20 if there were a race today, and I was wearing the Sauconys.  I really needed this run as I had been feeling slow all week last week.  The temperature definitely played a big role today...I must really lose some spring in my step once it gets into the 60s (as it was last week).  Anyway, there's a local 5K in 2-and-a-half weeks.  I think I will be there.

1140s #2 Miles: 10.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From seeaprilrun on Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 11:49:29 from 72.205.231.214

AAAHHH YEAH! That's awesome Joe--you are definitely set up for a killer 5K! Check out that speed in the final miles! Wow!

From DLTheo on Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 11:50:26 from 67.183.227.41

Nice job, and good luck on the upcoming 5k!

From I Just Run on Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 12:37:42 from 67.79.11.242

Sounds like you and I are chasing the same goal...Break 20:00 in the 5K. I'm just waiting for the next local one to make my attempt. I'm sure you'll do it in 2-1/2 weeks...Run Forrest Run...!!!

From Burt on Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 17:33:18 from 206.19.214.144

You are a real American hero.

From Mike on Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 19:36:32 from 144.183.224.2

Dang Joe!

From SlowJoe on Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 10:31:04 from 131.59.200.82

Thanks all. I felt like a machine or something the last 3 miles, it was weird and fun.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

8:16 pace.

Still happy about my run from yesterday.  Hopefully it wasn't too flukish and means I've stepped up a notch in fitness.

New Blue Asics Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From seeaprilrun on Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 17:51:21 from 72.205.231.214

Good runs are NEVER a fluke. Bad runs are. Your real potential is in the good runs or you wouldn't have pulled it off in the first place!

From SlowJoe on Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 23:09:24 from 184.79.24.255

Thanks, that's kinda what I thought too - it just surprised me...now I just need cold weather and calm wind every day.

From I Just Run on Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:55:37 from 67.79.11.242

Ha...looking at your 5K and Half-marathon times, they are almost exactly what mine are. I guess I can expect about a 3:25 Marathon based on this comparrison. I think that would be a BQ time for me (in my age catagory)! I think I'll make that a new goal. See...Slow Joe how you are inspiring others (me) in your training and progress...Thanks

From SlowJoe on Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 16:08:05 from 98.200.237.200

Sounds like a good goal, got a full marathon picked out?

Also, don't know if you've seen this, but there's a calculator out there (http://www.mcmillanrunning.com/mcmillanrunningcalculator.htm) that works really well. Just put in the time for your "best" race or run (for me, it's actually the 5-mile tempo run I did on Tuesday) and it spits out what you should be able to do in all other races (under similar conditions). It's surprisingly accurate, and I use it all the time to decide what my goals should be.

From I Just Run on Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 16:43:58 from 67.79.11.242

Thanks Slow Joe,

I looked at the website...interesting...based on the calculations I could qualify with a whole 17 seconds to sprare...think I should keep training for a while to build a larger cushion. Thanks for the info.I don't have a clue what race I'll run to qualify for Boston...If you pick one out, let me know and I might just come run it with you.

From SlowJoe on Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 16:58:08 from 98.200.237.200

Ha - yeah same here, let me know if you find a fast one. I'm running Oklahoma City on May 1st, mostly for experience...I can't imagine the temperature will be conducive to running your best potential marathon (it's windy there too). I'll give you another link, not sure if you're looking to get in a marathon before summer (when it's way too hot) but this is a pretty good search tool: http://www.runningintheusa.com/Race/List.aspx?Rank=Upcoming&Special=marathon&State=TX&Page=1

From I Just Run on Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 17:02:32 from 67.79.11.242

Hummm...Oklahoma...I have very good friends who live near Oklahoma City...? What is your BQ time (based on your age catagory)? Do you plan to qualify at this race?

From I Just Run on Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 17:03:20 from 67.79.11.242

Plus...that's 10 days before my birthday, I'd still be 50...!

From SlowJoe on Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 17:10:57 from 98.200.237.200

My BQ time is 3:10, I don't have a shot (the times are supposed to all drop by 5 minutes soon, anyway). Just kind of want to get in another marathon before racing season is over.

I ran the half marathon last year at OKC and it was awesome. Really a great experience, in remembrance of the attack on the federal building, which is right by the start/finish line.

From I Just Run on Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 17:29:56 from 67.79.11.242

I wonder if you qualify do you have to go the same year...or does that qualify you for a longer period of time? I guess I could not be lazy, and do some research.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
11.000.0011.00

63F, 98% humidity.  Juuust about to rain, but I made it back in time.  Had to run super early this morning (5am) to catch a morning flight to Houston for an overnight trip.  You'd think that weather I posted was Houston, but no, I ran in Abilene.  Anyway, as expected, I melted out there; that's too hot and muggy for me.  I was able to eke out 3 MP miles at the end, and hated every minute of it.  I really gotta toughen up, since the running gods apparently have taken away spring and gone straight from winter to summer.

8:01 AP

1140s #3 Miles: 11.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Rye on Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 17:59:58 from 174.27.82.195

Oh brother!!!!

From seeaprilrun on Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 12:03:34 from 72.205.231.214

Really?! It was 22 degrees this morning for my run LOl. Can you believe that you ran a whole marathon in those conditions only 4 short weeks ago!?

From I Just Run on Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 12:16:34 from 67.79.11.242

Our humidity is often high here in San Marcos...I'd hate to be down on the coast where Flatlander runs...! I sweat enough without the high humidity. Hey Slow Joe...you inspired me, if you get a chance look my run report for today. Have a great weekend.

From SlowJoe on Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 10:36:38 from 184.79.24.255

April - yeah why was it so much easier?!

IJR - it's usually pretty dry here so I make sure to complain when it isn't.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

7:58 avg, back in Abilene.

New Blue Asics Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From DaleG on Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 02:46:39 from 152.216.7.5

Nice run yesterday and today. It's tough running in humidity

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
7.000.007.00

7:55 AP, perfect running weather. Should be about 25 degrees warmer tomorrow morning for my long run.

1140s #2 Miles: 7.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Tracy on Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 10:57:39 from 173.23.75.96

Nice training week! I like the fact that you ran a 5K pr at the end of a longer run!

From I Just Run on Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 13:01:59 from 97.79.152.246

I'm going to do my long run tomorrow too. I think I've decided to run with a couple of Sunday school teachers who have been teaching the smaller kids about God giving us strength. One of them has run increasing miles every Sunday (to church) and tomorrow is the finale with a 19 mile run. It should be really slow so that should be good for me. Anyway...keep up the good work I may be going to Oklahoma in May.

From seeaprilrun on Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 20:13:02 from 72.205.231.214

Have a good long run tomorrow!

From SlowJoe on Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 11:28:30 from 184.79.24.255

Thanks Tracy, I'm finding out I'm a baby about needing perfect conditions to run fast but I'll take it!

IJR - yeah I love the fact that I have the roads to myself on Sunday, and don't see a problem with it religiously-speaking.

Thanks April

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
17.000.0017.00

Start weather: 65F, 93% humidity, wind S 17-25 mph.  End weather: 71F, 70% humidity, winds S 25-30 mph.  I never knew it could be hot, humid and windy all at the same time.  Obviously not a fun running day, so I took it easy and just put miles on legs.

8:06 AP.  Out and back, averaged 8:24 going out, 7:48 coming back due to the wind differential.  I like to get the headwind out of the way first!

1140s #3 Miles: 17.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 16:41:19 from 97.79.152.246

You should move to San Marcos...that's our typical weather. Looks like a GREAT run for the condition...maybe a great run in any conditions! I'm still trying to sike myself up for the OK race...

From flatlander on Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 18:40:10 from 75.214.186.218

Your weather is the same as ours, don't care what they say in the cold climates, this is not good running weather.

From seeaprilrun on Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 20:49:55 from 72.205.231.214

Nice run Joe! That is an awesome pace in those horrible conditions. I, for one, find heat, strong wind, and humidity to be the epitomy of miserable running conditions! Way to get out there and get it done!

From SlowJoe on Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 10:45:55 from 131.59.200.82

IJR - that wind is normal for us, but we're not supposed to be that hot yet! Your training is looking good for OKC.

Flat - I gotta complain less though...I would've killed for this weather at many points last year.

Thanks April - once I decided I would just relax and not try anything speedy, it ended up being almost enjoyable.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
4.006.2110.21

Another Tempo Tuesday, another unofficial PR.  Weather was ideal (which apparently is critical for me) at 35F, 3-5 mph winds.  Plan was for 4 easy, 6 fast, but I decided to turn on the jets for another minute or so to see what the 10K would be.

4 warmup miles at about 8:02 AP.  Then a 10K in 42:07 (6:47 AP).  Splits were 7:09, 6:53, 6:45, 6:49, 6:43, 6:34, 1:14 for 0.21 (5:54 pace).  So a pretty fierce finish!

AP for the run 7:16.

So, a couple things this run helped me realize: 1) sub-43 is a dumb goal for my 10K in April.  2) a 1:35 (7:15 pace) should be pretty easily attainable in 2-1/2 weeks at the HM.  I mean I was on pace on this 10-mile run that included 4 warmup miles, and a couple of the tempo miles today were on dirt roads.  So I feel good about hitting that goal now unless it's hot at the race in Longview, in which case I will melt down as I usually do in the heat.

Now I'm all antsy to get out and do some racing.

1140s #3 Miles: 10.21
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From seeaprilrun on Tue, Mar 01, 2011 at 15:14:06 from 72.205.227.203

Holy cow Joe! Your fitness has definitely taken some kind of crazy leap! It's like what JulieC said once on my blog--if the marathon doesn't kill you, you bounce out of it in better shape than ever and keep building--looks like you are there! Congrats on the awesome 10k PR and all the other PRs you are about to go smash!

From DaleG on Tue, Mar 01, 2011 at 21:52:11 from 152.216.7.5

I'm sure you'll hit that pace at the half. Nicely done.

From I Just Run on Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 10:35:33 from 67.79.11.242

Holy cow...Turbo Joe you're making my head spin with the increases. You better reassess your goals because I think they are all behind you...:)

From SlowJoe on Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 11:02:46 from 131.59.200.80

April - yeah I don't see how someone could help but to get faster after running a marathon..anything that painful has to be good for you.

Thanks Dale, I wasn't too sure but feel more confident now.

IJR - improvements come in big spurts for me, then nothing for awhile so I'm enjoying this one right now!

From Kelsey on Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 17:49:18 from 24.49.31.90

Wow, great job. Running a PR on your own is very impressive! You would smash any PR on race day right now. Nice work.

From SlowJoe on Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 19:49:52 from 184.79.24.255

Thanks Kelsey, that's definitely the fun part about being a somewhat new runner -- fast improvement and PRs every race...too bad it has to end someday.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

8:25 AP in some great running weather, about 45F.  In fact the rest of this week (including the weekend) looks great.  Just had to complain about it enough.

No soreness at all from my 10K yesterday, which was just about race pace effort for most of it.  I think stabilizing my mileage here (upper 50s/week) since December has helped my legs get accustomed to that level of punishment, and recover fast.  This summer will be a good time to base build easy miles while very slowly working toward 70.  Right now, while the weather is nice, I will keep the intensity up and just hover around 60/week until OKC.  It took me awhile (and a few injuries) to learn not to increase mileage AND intensity at the same time but I think the message finally got through.

New Blue Asics Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From seeaprilrun on Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 17:38:16 from 72.205.227.203

You are definitely working your way towards some good solid mileage! I haven't decided about summer yet...concentrate on short races or join ultra-land for a while....

From SlowJoe on Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 12:16:18 from 131.59.200.80

I know you're not asking me but I'm thinking short races!

I think this summer, instead of trying to suffer through long tempo runs in the heat, I'm going to do more short, fast stuff mixed in with the usual-length easy runs (400s, 800s with plenty of rest interval). Gotta mix it up eventually, right?

From derhammer on Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 12:51:28 from 65.67.40.73

Nice running. I like your summer plan, I think it's good for the body to mix things up, too. Summer heat - don't want to think about it now. :-)

From SlowJoe on Sat, Mar 05, 2011 at 10:49:58 from 184.79.24.255

DH - thanks, yeah sorry for even mentioning summer running!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
11.000.0011.00

55F, ~15mph south wind.  Not feeling it today.  I tried to speed up a bit on the way home with the tailwind and managed a few 7:30s but felt really sluggish.  8:02 AP for the run.

I saw a lady who was plopped down in the grass at a bus stop today.  She was staring at me with a shocked and disgusted look.  I checked and did not have any boogers hanging out, so I said good morning and she just continued to stare at me in disgusted silence.  Then there was an older gentleman just standing still, right in the middle of the street, having a conversation with himself.  I didn't want to interrupt, so he did not get a "good morning."

1140s #2 Miles: 11.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From seeaprilrun on Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 10:30:53 from 72.205.227.203

Feeling it or not, that is 11 miles of good 'ol solid base training at a decent pace. It's mileage money in the bank!

From I Just Run on Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 10:57:16 from 67.79.11.242

Good run...But I'm more concerned with the two shaddy characters. Burt once talked about kicking a bum laying on the sidewalk. Maybe you should have taken some drastic measure like that to get thier attention!

From DaleG on Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 14:11:16 from 67.2.10.194

It's a strange world we live in. Nice job on the run.

From SlowJoe on Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 10:13:56 from 131.59.200.82

April - yeah, I'll take the solid miles

IJR - it's definitely more interesting running toward town

Thanks Dale

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

6 @ 8:11 AP in racing flats.  I'm working my way up in distance with them; if there continues to be no pain or ill-effects, I think I will try to use them in the HM in a couple weeks.

Saucony A4 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 10:23:30 from 67.79.11.242

Hi Turbo Joe,

I bought some racing flats too. I haven't gotten my confidence up enough to use them except on the treadmill. I plan to use them when I race 5K's. They are Brooks Racers ST 5. I really like the way they feel but don't want to take a chance on hurting my feet on a longer run with them.

Also, I wanted to ask you if you've already registered for the OK Marathon.

From SlowJoe on Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 10:32:52 from 131.59.200.82

Yeah, I ran 2 miles, then 3, now 6. Might try them on tempo tuesday next week and see what happens first.

I haven't registered for OKC yet - the price goes up on April 1st, so I'll probably wait until juuuust before that in case I get injured or something comes up at work.

From I Just Run on Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 10:36:27 from 67.79.11.242

I'm about 99% sure I'm going to OK too. I'll probably wait a couple of weeks to register. I tried to find some information about the course but it doesn't seem to be published yet. I'm real curious to see what it is. I'm assuming it will be farily flat...that's what I'm hoping for!

From SlowJoe'sGrl on Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 11:27:23 from 184.79.24.255

IJR - There will be hills. It's not a flat course. Unless they are changing it drastically from last year, but I think they may just be changing the start line. I could be wrong though.

From I Just Run on Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 11:32:49 from 67.79.11.242

What....I thought all of OK was FLAT...!

From SlowJoe on Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 11:56:02 from 131.59.200.82

it's definitely not completely flat, but probably has a lot smaller hills than the central TX hill country. Last year they published an elevation chart but it didn't quite do it justice (the hills surprised me). There will be a lot less elevation change than Austin though.

From I Just Run on Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 12:10:03 from 67.79.11.242

WhoooHooo...that's what I'm talking about!

From SlowJoe'sGrl on Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 12:28:37 from 184.79.24.255

One of them was called something like Gorilla Hill...just sayin. But, it is less than Austin overall.

From I Just Run on Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 12:30:14 from 67.79.11.242

Okay...I take the Whooo back, but I'll leave the Hooo!

From seeaprilrun on Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 21:18:15 from 72.205.227.203

I like racing flats for 10K and under. I am definitely not to the point where I am confident enough in them for a half or a marathon. My calves were SORE after I did long runs in them!

From SlowJoe on Sat, Mar 05, 2011 at 10:50:46 from 184.79.24.255

April - yeah I definitely need to test them out a bit more...so far so good.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
7.000.007.00

40 degrees and windy (NNW 22-27 mph).  Tried to stay on crosswind roads, mostly.  Felt pretty good today, 7:49 AP.  20-miler tomorrow!

1140s #2 Miles: 7.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Sat, Mar 05, 2011 at 11:41:31 from 97.79.152.246

Yeah I ran this morning but only 3. It was 52 degrees, raining and the wind was 30 mph. I think tomorrow should be nice weather for your 20 and my Half. What's your pace for the 20 tomorrow?

From SlowJoe on Sat, Mar 05, 2011 at 11:57:59 from 184.79.24.255

Yeah looks nice tomorrow, good luck at the race!

I'll probably do the first 10 at whatever feels easy (usually 8:00-8:30), then try to keep the last 10 around goal marathon pace (7:38).

From Rye on Sat, Mar 05, 2011 at 13:25:01 from 75.167.148.155

Good luck with the 20 miler! Have fun! That's what it is all about. Nasty wind today for you. Hate that..... Love your goals for the next year or two. Good luck with the training.

From Kelli on Sun, Mar 06, 2011 at 01:41:55 from 71.219.97.85

WHY are you so fast? Seriously, you impress me Mister.

Hope the 20 miler goes well.

From I Just Run on Sun, Mar 06, 2011 at 07:16:10 from 166.205.12.116

Hey Kelli, haven't you heard of his new nickname..."Torbo Joe"...?

From Kelli on Sun, Mar 06, 2011 at 10:15:51 from 71.219.97.85

TURBO or TORBO? Turbo sounds about right. if it is TORBO, I will have to look that word up!

From Tracy on Sun, Mar 06, 2011 at 10:53:13 from 173.23.75.96

I had a dream that I ran into you while running, and you snubbed me. I'm probably feeling guilty because I ignored everyone's blogs this week :)

From seeaprilrun on Sun, Mar 06, 2011 at 11:03:00 from 72.205.227.203

Awaiting your long run report...and btw that is a killer pace in that wind..I do believe we are subject to the same weather patterns in our locations! It's good to know that when I am running in the ridiculous wind you are too LOl!

From SlowJoe on Sun, Mar 06, 2011 at 11:37:25 from 184.79.24.255

Kelli - just want to be like you someday.

Tracy - that is funny, I'm gonna totally snub you from now on.

April - yeah I've noticed we have bad wind days at the same time. I made a nice, long, self-indulgent long-run report for ya!

From SlowJoe on Sun, Mar 06, 2011 at 11:54:55 from 184.79.24.255

Rye - thanks!

From Burt on Sun, Mar 06, 2011 at 11:59:05 from 72.223.90.79

I snubbed everyone this whole week. Sorry Joe. But good luck tomorrow, which is actually today.

From Kelli on Sun, Mar 06, 2011 at 15:03:05 from 71.219.97.85

You have surpasses me. I reserve that pace for races only!

From Burt on Sun, Mar 06, 2011 at 15:04:06 from 72.223.90.79

noun/verb agreement.

From Kelli on Sun, Mar 06, 2011 at 18:03:51 from 71.219.97.85

Actually, it was a typo.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
13.007.0020.00

29F to start, 43F to finish...Awesome day to run.  This was my first 20-miler back in the U.S. and I got to explore some new areas.  I ran to one of the many wind farms around Abilene, and actually found some solid hills!  We have a zillion humongous electricity-generating windmills around our town (gee, wonder why) but I've never really seen them up close.  Sometimes you'll see an "oversize load" 18+ wheeler slowly carrying a single fan blade on the interstate.  Anyway, about 8 miles into the run I found myself on an isolated road with 100+ foot tall windmills on either side, whooshing away.  Very surreal, it was a cool experience.

Oh yeah, I had a great run too.  Plan was 10 ez, 10 @ GMP.

AP for 10 ez was 8:04.  Splits were 8:24, 8:05, 8:14, 8:11, 8:00, 7:59, 7:52, 7:58, 7:58, 7:54.

AP for 10 "mp" was 7:12. Splits were 7:38, 7:25, 7:17, 7:22, 7:19, 7:15, 7:08, 7:04, 6:54, 6:40.

"MP" in quotes because that is more like HMP.  Believe it or not, the last 3 miles were into a decent headwind.  AP for the run - 7:38.

Sooo, I did this run at my goal marathon pace on average.  My time of 2:32:36 is 18 seconds faster than my 20-mile split at Houston.  The difference is I was on death's door in Houston at the 20-mile point, but able to run a 6:40 mile into the wind today.  Mostly it's the 30-degree difference in temperature, but I think I'm more fit too.

One thing I should probably point out...I just checked the map data, and I climbed a net 200 feet going out and descended 200 feet coming back home.  So that skews the last 10 miles a little.

1140s #3 Miles: 20.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Tracy on Sun, Mar 06, 2011 at 11:49:13 from 173.23.75.96

Hey! Nice pace for those miles! Especially 6:40 into the wind. It's always nice to finish a run like that with some pride :)

From I Just Run on Sun, Mar 06, 2011 at 22:33:35 from 97.79.152.246

Hi Turbo Joe,

Wow...that looks like a great run! Good speed, endurance and best of all confidence. Can't wait to meet and run with you in OK. (Oh, I don't mean you have to run "with" me in OK, just meant in the same race. I'm sure you're pace will be much faster than mine).

From SlowJoe on Mon, Mar 07, 2011 at 12:15:13 from 131.59.200.82

Thanks Tracy, having energy at the end of 20 was kinda unexpected!

IJR - thanks, and don't be too sure that I'll be faster than you at OKC the way things are going for you. Looking forward to it as well.

From Burt on Mon, Mar 07, 2011 at 12:19:01 from 206.19.214.144

That's the way to do it. Go uphill for the first half and downhill coming back.

From derhammer on Mon, Mar 07, 2011 at 15:14:46 from 192.156.110.40

Nice run - those types of fast finishes really paid off for me. Keep it up.

From seeaprilrun on Mon, Mar 07, 2011 at 17:20:35 from 72.205.227.203

SWEEEET! That's a heckuva 20-miler, and more evidence yet of your soon-to-be massive, massive marathon PR! Nicely done! Finishing out 20 at sub-7 pace is very promising!

From Rye on Mon, Mar 07, 2011 at 20:18:14 from 174.27.110.149

Nice! Confidence boost for you I am sure...I think that you are just scratching the surface.... Keep up the good work.

From SlowJoe on Tue, Mar 08, 2011 at 10:25:58 from 131.59.200.80

Burt - yes, I didn't even know we had 200' of elevation change anywhere in the area but now I like the route even more

DH - thanks, I am a fan too, mostly because I get bored after that long

April - hoping OKC has cooler temps than Houston did...

Thanks Rye, the long runs are definitely getting easier as I go.

From Burt on Tue, Mar 08, 2011 at 10:39:56 from 72.223.90.79

Triple digits on the quantcast. Nice.

From flatlander on Tue, Mar 08, 2011 at 12:14:09 from 198.207.244.102

We developed a lot of those wind farms out there, although there are so many we can't claim exclusivity. Out work was mostly around Sweetwater. That is a really nice run. If you have good weather in OK you will blow the lid off, and you might anyway. Good job.

From Burt on Tue, Mar 08, 2011 at 12:18:33 from 206.19.214.144

Good jog, too.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
12.000.0012.00

61F, wind S 15-20.  My hips are still kinda sore from Sunday, and I didn't like the temperature or wind so I blew off Tempo Tuesday and just did some solid aerobic base miles.  8:07 AP.  The wind was only moderate by our standards, and I was able to run sub-9s on the direct headwind legs; when the wind is bad I can't even do that, but still not a good day to try and hit any specific paces.  I will make up for it on Thursday, it's supposed to be nicer.

1140s #3 Miles: 12.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Tue, Mar 08, 2011 at 12:11:15 from 67.79.11.242

Hey Turbo Joe,

Your wind is like my hills...hard to keep an even pace...Keep it up!

From DaleG on Tue, Mar 08, 2011 at 13:11:48 from 67.2.21.73

Sounds like a good run to me. Nicely done.

From seeaprilrun on Tue, Mar 08, 2011 at 13:31:30 from 72.205.227.203

There you are, back on top of the mileage board! Give me a few hours(c'mon Vanessa take a nap...)

From Tracy on Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 08:13:18 from 173.23.75.96

At least your temps are nice. 5-20 mph wind would be so much worse if it was, say, 20 degrees. Sometimes you just have to do with it. NIce miles.

From flatlander on Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 10:38:32 from 76.31.26.153

I think we got your wind this morning, hopefully it left Abilene by now.

From SlowJoe on Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 10:53:15 from 131.59.200.82

IJR - it's all good, as long as we all have something to use as an excuse

Thanks DG

April - funny thing is I count Sunday as last week (use a monday-sunday week) when I plan my runs. But I'll take it!

Tracy - yeah I might be on the treadmill on a day like that!

Flat, yep, pretty tame here this morning

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
10.000.0010.00

36F, 13 mph wind.  8:04 AP.  Nice and cool this morning, but I just did base miles again.  I had to borrow some of tomorrow's miles; I want to do some faster stuff in racing flats tomorrow but don't want exceed 9 total miles.

1150s Miles: 10.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Tracy on Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 11:34:08 from 209.175.177.37

So you're prerunning for tomorrow, eh?

From Rye on Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 13:26:38 from 174.27.110.149

Don't look know..... joe is in the top 5 of the mileage board.

From I Just Run on Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 18:25:50 from 67.79.11.242

Hey Turbo Joe,

What kinda milage are you planning to run before OK marathon. I've got my charted out for 50,58,63,71,76,58,51 then marathon day...just curious..IJR

From SlowJoe on Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 19:25:27 from 184.79.24.255

Tracy - exactly! I want to keep the week's mileage the same so I had to steal miles.

Rye - I'll be lucky to be on page 1 at the end of Saturday

IJR - bascially 60/week (based on a Monday-Sunday week) give or take a couple miles here and there. I still haven't run more than 60 in a week - unfortunately I get injured everytime I increase mileage too much.

From Kelli on Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 10:47:46 from 71.219.97.85

WOW< nice mileage already! You are racking them in, and fast ones at that. NICE JOB.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.255.5010.75

AM#1 - 31F, 5mph winds.  Great day to run fast.  I warmed up 3 miles @ 8:05 AP, then did 4 mile repeats with an easy half-mile inbetween.  The mile repeats (with rest intervals) were:

6:37, (3:59), 6:28, (3:51), 6:20 (3:40), 6:14, (4:20 cooldown).

AP 7:19 for 9 miles.

I am now a fan of racing flats.  I just kept getting faster, even my half-mile "rest" was speeding up.  I redlined by the end of the last one as the last half-mile was a little uphill.  Probably shouldn't have pushed so hard 2 days before my 5K...oh well.  Goal will be a sub-20.

Damage assessment from the flats - not much, but my right achilles or lower calf is a bit tender/sore.  Not bad to run or walk on, so hopefully it goes away.

***********************

AM#2 - I was in a class this morning that did a mock-PT test...crap.  So, quarter-mile warmup, then 1.5 at about a 6:45 pace (after pushups and situps).  I just kinda cruised since I was a good bit in front of everyone, but maybe shoulda made it more of a jog since it was not officially scored.  I just hate giving crappy effort.  Right achilles feeling a bit more tender now, but should not affect Saturday's race.  I am starting to re-think flats for a half marathon though, we'll see.

Saucony A4 Miles: 9.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From seeaprilrun on Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 16:14:13 from 72.205.227.203

Nice repeats with descending splits! All you need for sub-20 is 6:26/mile--very doable for you!

From Tracy on Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 17:43:03 from 173.23.75.96

All the people you were cruising in front of were cursing you, I bet. Keep stretching today. That sub 20 is looking good!

From SlowJoe'sGrl on Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 17:55:12 from 184.79.24.255

Joe is the PT Leader for his flight at work. Haha! It might not seem funny, but it is funny.

From I Just Run on Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 18:30:00 from 67.79.11.242

Go Turbo Joe Go...!

You're going to bust that 20:00 5K for sure...! Can't wait to see the race report. What's going to be your goal for OK Marathon, maybe I can grab your coat tail and let you pull me along! LOL

From SlowJoe on Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 19:16:42 from 184.79.24.255

April - it does seem doable all of a sudden...we'll see!

Tracy - thanks for reminding me, I will stretch again soon.

D - shut it

IJR - think it will be pretty close on Saturday. Looking for sub 3:20 at OKC, would be great to have some company! I'm gonna try to be smarter than my 1st one though, and let the conditions dictate pace a little.

From Rye on Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 19:50:28 from 75.174.13.229

Great workout! Holy &(&*^$@@ you are getting quick. I believe that sub 20 is going to happen. Do I sense a little hostility to your lovely wife?

From I Just Run on Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 20:22:17 from 166.205.13.177

Hey Joe,

It's funny my "calculated" marathon time is 3:20 based on my half marathon time using some of those on line calculators. I'd love to be close to that time but I have never ever run a full marathon...Ha Ha...So who knows where I'll be? If the weather is decent I'm going to give it a try. What is a 3:20 pace...7:30?

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
4.370.004.37

8:42 AP.  Hopefully my legs are ready to go tomorrow for the 5K, and are recovered from the fast stuff yesterday.  Right now they are angry at me.

New Blue Asics Miles: 4.37
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Tracy on Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 14:48:29 from 209.175.177.37

I'm sure they'll be good to go. Your turnaround time seems to be pretty quick.

Good luck!

From seeaprilrun on Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 20:18:06 from 72.205.227.203

SUB 20! SUB 20! SUB 20! Can't wait to read the race report!

From SlowJoe on Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 22:33:45 from 184.79.24.255

Now that I am logged in as me...thanks!

Race: Local APD 5K (3.13 Miles) 00:19:41, Place overall: 3, Place in age division: 2
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
2.003.135.13

Conditions for the race were mid 50s and windy.  I got to the race and the south wind is blowing down every sign or stand they put up.  I'd guesstimate 15-20 mph.  Thankfully, two-thirds of the race was east/west.

Warmed up a couple miles and started near the front.  Not a bad turnout for Abilene, probably a couple hundred people.  Mile 1 I started out in 6th, and worked my way up to 4th by the end of the mile.  Split was 6:14.  Mile 2 I moved into 3rd where I would stay the rest of the race - I just could not catch up to the 2 guys in front, but they were close (10-15 seconds ahead maybe).  Mile 2 split was 6:25.  The last mile was tough.  About halfway through, we hit a wall of wind.  I knew I wouldn't catch up at that point as my legs became silly putty.  Still, Mile 3 was 6:22.  The last bit was tailwind, and I did the 0.13 in 40 seconds (5:06 pace).

Big PR, way better than I thought would be possible.  I might just try and wear flats for the half next weekend if the lower calf/achilles (not sure which it is) soreness goes away.  I'm definitely not used to the shoes yet but getting there.

Saucony A4 Miles: 5.13
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Tracy on Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 13:11:00 from 173.23.75.96

Totally awesome! Congrats on the PR!! Looking like it'll be a big PR for the 1/2 too!

From Rye on Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 14:13:31 from 75.174.13.229

Sweet! You should be in good shape for your half. Congrats.....

From Kelli on Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 18:15:39 from 71.219.97.85

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!! That is one heck of an awesome race time. I laugh that you call your legs silly putty AND you run in to the wind and still average a 6:22! AND LOOK AT THAT KICK AT THE END (yes, I am yelling)!!! AMAZING!

Nice job, see, I told you that your speed was way out of my league. You are SUPERMAN! NICE!!!!!

Is that enough explanation points for you to understand just how excited and impressed I am?

From SlowJoe on Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 18:26:01 from 184.79.24.255

Tracy - thanks, I'm definitely looking forward to that half.

Thanks Rye!

Thanks Kelli - I'm excited that you're excited! That last mile I watched my pace go from 6:05 to 6:22 after just 2 minutes or so into that wind but still it was mostly crosswind today, not too bad.

From seeaprilrun on Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 21:19:06 from 72.205.227.203

Yeah Joe! Holy cow! You totally just blasted the 20-minute barrier! I am sooo jealous! Send some of the superjoe speed this way! All your training is seriously paying off--I think things are lining up for a BIG pr in Oklahoma!

From flatlander on Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 23:00:50 from 76.31.26.153

This is an incredible time and a great finishing kick. Your flats will pay off big time, I promise. But work into them gradually, I know you are.

From I Just Run on Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 23:06:00 from 166.205.13.94

Oh My Gosh.....!!!!!! Now you HAVE to change your Blog name to TURBO JOE...!!! This is really cool, all the main guys I've been Blogging with are breaking PR's (Flatlander, Der Hammer, Fast Lindsey, and You)! I think I'm hanging in the right company. Now I can't wait to see how well you do in the Half Marathon next weekend!

Now go celebrate.......:-)

IJR

From Burt on Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 00:31:25 from 72.223.90.79

Geez Joe. Great job! I can't even break a 7 minute mile for any of my miles in a 5k. It's a curse.

IJR - stay away from me. I'm cursed.

From Pittbully on Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 00:51:36 from 12.229.185.130

Man Joe you killed that 5K....awesome race, great job!...Hooah...lol

From SlowJoe on Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 12:03:49 from 184.79.24.255

Thanks April - I'm trying not to read TOO much into it since it's just a 5K, but it does get me thinking about the possibilities at OKC!

Thanks Flat - I love them, they are 5.4 ounces lighter than my 1140s. My legs seem to be doing fine today so I'm really considering taking them along for 13.1 next Saturday.

IJR - thanks, us Texans gotta stick together. I will celebrate by working all night tonight...booooo!

Burt - thanks, now if I could only run like this guy: http://burt-mccumber.fastrunningblog.com/blog--Time-23-40-8-03-pace-nbsp-new-re/10-30-2008.html Those old posts of yours are gold, pure gold.

PB - thanks man, not Army-strong yet but getting there.

From derhammer on Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:04:54 from 65.67.40.73

Awesome job in windy conditions. Your training is paying off big time - keep it up!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
14.000.0014.00

50F, no wind.  It all died out right after the race (of course) and hasn't come back yet.  I ran to a wind farm again and most of the windmills were still - you don't see that here much!

Anyway, I took it easy but gradually picked it up to GMP the last 6 or 7 miles.  Felt pretty comfy the whole run.  7:46 AP.

*Here's a link with a short video about the race yesterday.  They caught my finish at about 45 seconds into the video, if you can get it to work.  Then the poor honor guard trying to hold the flags steady in the wind...

1140s #3 Miles: 14.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Tracy on Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 12:28:32 from 173.23.75.96

Too bad today's weather couldn't have been yesterday's! Think of the PR you'd have set! Nice pace on the run!

From seeaprilrun on Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 19:29:47 from 72.205.227.203

Cool video--you were straight up cranking it!

From I Just Run on Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 10:53:53 from 67.79.11.242

No wind in Abilene is like no Humidity in San Marcos...Rare Ocassion...!!!

You looked strong in the video...KEEP IT UP!

From Rye on Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 15:00:59 from 71.209.42.202

Looks like the same shirt on your blog. Hope you have washed it a time or two...

From SlowJoe on Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 15:47:46 from 69.153.187.164

Well, I run in free t-shirts mostly because I own only 1 actual "running shirt." So it shows up at every race.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.005.0011.00

40F, 10 mph winds.  Plan was 6 easy, 5 tempo, just looking for sub 7s on the tempo piece.

I didn't hold out too much hope for this workout -- I worked literally 30 hours straight from Sunday afternoon to Monday evening, and went about 40 with no sleep.  However, I got a solid 8 hours last night so I guess it was enough.

6 easy in 8:01 AP, then 5 tempo in 6:52 AP (6:54, 6:55, 6:51, 6:50, 6:52).  Just kept a nice stready pace; felt decent, all things considered.  7:30 AP for the run.

I checked the weather in Longview for Saturday - going to be mid 60s for the race...similar to Houston.  Oh well.  Sub-1:35 is still in play, I think, but my visions of 1:31 or 1:32 are dissipating.

1150s Miles: 11.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Burt on Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 12:35:24 from 206.19.214.144

Shouldn't you be tapering?

From SlowJoe on Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 13:53:39 from 131.59.200.80

Nah, I'm gonna save the tapering for the marathon, 6-7 weeks from now. This week will be a full-up training week, just with a race instead of a long run at the end.

From Burt on Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 14:33:35 from 206.19.214.144

Nice plan.

From I Just Run on Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 14:58:51 from 67.79.11.242

Looks like a good tempo run. I need to learn from you...

I'm getting really excited about going to OK....

From seeaprilrun on Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 17:24:00 from 72.205.227.203

Joe, the way you are smoking it lately I wouldn't be surprised to see a sub 1:30!

From Rye on Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 22:17:36 from 75.174.13.229

I agree with April, don't sell yourself short! You have been putting in some great runs!

From SlowJoe on Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 10:09:49 from 131.59.200.82

IJR - I'm also guilty sometimes of running too hard...for this one I finally managed to treat it like a training run instead of a race. It's hard to find that happy medium.

April - thanks, I think that one will have to wait until this fall though!

Rye - yeah we'll see what happens, but I tend to fold like a lawn chair when the temps get into the 60s.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.020.006.02

8:19 AP.  Can't think of anything else to say, so I'll just say I hate daylight savings time.

New Blue Asics Miles: 6.02
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 16:32:59 from 166.205.14.134

ME TOO.....!!!!

From flatlander on Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 00:25:53 from 60.247.105.219

I wonder if we had a vote if DST would survive. I don't know anybody who likes it. Good running this week, and good luck in Longview. You might surprise yourself. A half is a lot easier to run in the heat than a full, in my opinion.

From Tracy on Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 08:16:58 from 173.23.75.249

Sorry fellas. I'm the lone person who likes it. I run at night...

From Rye on Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 15:32:38 from 174.27.118.104

I just got use to the time change in the fall. Knock em dead this weekend.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
11.000.0011.00

64F, south wind 22-25 mph.  Tough wind today, but I just did base miles anyway, 8:07 AP.  Nothing interesting except that I almost got hit by a fast-moving tumbleweed.  That would've stung a bit.

I'm considering going shirtless for the race on Saturday.  Cons - I will blind oncoming traffic, and there will be race phototography there.  Pros - it will feel a lot cooler, no one will be able to tell how much sweat, gatorade, snot, drool and water I have on me, and maybe it will help me endure a little better...run better splits at the end?  Not sure.

1140s #2 Miles: 11.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From derhammer on Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 11:43:51 from 192.156.110.31

tumbleweed - that would have been a good story.

My body type does not bode well for wearing a shirt in anything about 55-60 degrees. The shirt becomes a soaking wet rag after a couple miles so I don't even bother.

From Tracy on Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 12:47:04 from 209.175.177.37

Was the tumbleweed moving faster than you?

I have no advice about the shirt thing.

From Burt on Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 13:40:17 from 206.19.214.144

You know my recommendation on wearing a shirt.

From I Just Run on Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 23:57:14 from 166.205.9.53

Hey Tracy have you seen how Turbo Joe has been running?...There's no way that tumble weed could have caught up to him...!

From Rye on Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 09:48:43 from 174.27.118.104

Hum..... You are looking svelte lately......

From SlowJoe on Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 11:38:47 from 69.153.187.164

The tumbleweed was going WAY faster than me. Those things look harmless enough but there is more to them than you'd think...

From Burt on Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 11:45:17 from 72.223.90.79

I remember seeing these people dragging tumbleweeds into their van with New York license plates. Not smart.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.000.005.00

8:11 AP in Longview this morning.  Low 60s and humid, same as the start of the race will be tomorrow.  As expected the day before a race, it felt terrible - like 1:45 would have been tough, forget 1:35.  But I think I know not to pay attention to that.

1140s #2 Miles: 5.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Tracy on Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 17:12:53 from 173.23.75.249

It'll be an awesome race tomorrow! You are SO much stronger than you were last year. Can't wait to read the race report!

From I Just Run on Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 20:29:46 from 166.205.9.53

Just remember who you really are ....."Turbo Joe" and you'll do great! I'll be rooting for you!

BTW....I had your wind today, it was brutal!

From seeaprilrun on Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 22:37:44 from 72.205.227.203

Good luck Joe! You better have an awesome race because I have to live vicariously through your racing for a while so make it a good one!

Race: Longview Half Marathon (13.14 Miles) 01:39:56, Place overall: 38, Place in age division: 6
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
0.0013.1413.14

64F, 92% humidity.  I've never really bombed in a race, so I guess it was about time.  I've probably had half a dozen training runs where I've ended up covering this distance faster.  Most things that could go wrong, did.  I forgot my energy drink/caffeine in the morning, and I normally never do anything more than a recovery run without it.  Then the temp/humidity ended up about like Houston, except we were in direct sunlight for this one.  Today confirmed to me that I lose all my endurance above 60 degrees.  The course was also hilly; it was never flat, always up or down.  I could use some hill training.  To make matters worse, I didn't learn my lesson about adjusting my pace to the conditions, and I started out as if I had perfect conditions again.  I'll steal the Proverbs quote from Preston's blog the other day - "As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly."  So those are my million excuses!  Mostly, I just...ran...bad.  I was pleading for the finish line around mile 4.

7:03, 7:03, 7:12, 7:25, 7:18, 7:32, 7:49, 7:47, 8:04, 8:07, 7:59, 8:04, 7:39, 0:53.

About halfway through, I mentally died.  Probably could have given a little more effort but I had completely wilted mentally and physically in the heat.  Ended up pretty dehydrated as well.  I wish I could pull something positive out of this...guess it is technically a PR, and I got in a solid medium-long run.  Time to take an easy week and reset everything.

Saucony A4 Miles: 13.14
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Tracy on Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 16:53:39 from 173.23.75.249

Claim it as a PR and then steel your resolve to quit eating your own vomit.

From seeaprilrun on Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 19:30:21 from 72.205.227.203

Ah shucks! I know how you feel--I have also felt the sting of running faster in training than in a race. Those are the kind of conditions that kill me too. Way to gut it out and get a training run out of it. I think the easy reset weeks is right on par, and you will be good to go for Oklahoma City. Your mileage base is great, you've had lots of solid runs, and this race is not a reflection on your fitness. Keep in mind that it is hard to race in the middle of marathon training when your legs have a lot on the odometer!

From Rye on Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 22:56:41 from 174.27.118.104

Bummer, but that is the way it goes sometimes. I agree with Aprils observation. I might ad......maybe a new shirt....

From flatlander on Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 01:52:41 from 76.31.26.153

I would guess on a good day you are 10 minutes faster than today, and anyway I don't think you bombed it, that is a solid effort and a good result. My current theory (having lots of experience in this area and desperately needing an explanation) is that bad races build speed faster than stellar training. I think OKC is going to go well.

From derhammer on Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 09:43:34 from 70.113.204.189

I agree completely with seeaprilrun. You have to trust your training - which as been great - and chalk this one up to a learning experience. You will do great @ OKC.

From I Just Run on Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 11:19:07 from 67.79.11.242

Hey Turbo Joe...You're not getting out of your new name that easily...! I know what you can really do! I think you got caught up in the conditions more than anything. I've found out, in the last week or so, that 64 degrees and 92% humidity is much different than 45 degrees and 50% humidity. It will probably take our bodies a little while to adapt to the warmer conditions. I also think you've been pushing yourself hard and your body may have been just a little tired. I've been training similar to you (although slower) and plan to contine to press the milage and pace for a few more weeks before OK...then tapering to refresh my body. All we need to hope for now is a little cooler weather, low humidity and no wind on raceday...Hope that's not asking for too much...LOL

Anyway...congradulations on your new PR! Forget about how you felt and recognize what you accomplished!

From SlowJoe on Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 12:43:35 from 131.59.200.82

Tracy - will do. The vomit comment made me laugh. Sometimes I think I have the brain of a dog.

April - thanks, you are right as usual -- I was just reading about training lag and I think the faster stuff and high mileage (high for me) may have caught up to me.

Rye - no! just buying the one running shirt I have killed me...it was over $20! If I hadn't had a gift card I would still be running races in t-shirts.

Flat - thanks, I think 10 minutes is generous but I'm glad to hear your spin on bad races and I think I will come out smarter and stronger.

DH - thanks -- will do, I'm convincing myself right now

IJR - I will join you in hoping for that cool weather...it could happen...right?

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

67F, 19-24mph wind.  Just did an easy 6 at an 8:50 avg.  Plan is to do easy runs this week, then a solid 20-miler this weekend.

New Blue Asics Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Burt on Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 11:57:38 from 72.223.90.79

Define solid.

From SlowJoe on Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 12:16:00 from 131.59.200.82

A state of matter in which the molecules vibrate about fixed positions and cannot migrate to other positions in the substance.

From Burt on Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 12:34:06 from 206.19.214.144

So....you're going to vibrate around molecules while not migrating for 20 miles?

From SlowJoe on Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 13:18:27 from 131.59.200.82

Precisely - sheez, do I have to spell it all out for you? It's so obvious.

From flatlander on Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 20:49:30 from 198.207.244.102

I am sure your 20-miler will be solid. How long 'til OKC?

From seeaprilrun on Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 21:40:24 from 72.205.227.203

Sounds like a solid plan.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.000.008.00

64F, wind S 27-36 mph.  Kinda rough going out there today, but I rode a tailwind the last couple miles and ended up at MP for the last 2.  8:20 AP for the run.

1150s Miles: 8.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From derhammer on Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 10:43:20 from 70.113.204.189

The wind is blowing pretty hard here too, though not that hard. Fortuntately, we ran in a wooded area this morning and didn't catch too much of it.

From I Just Run on Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 13:27:09 from 67.79.11.242

Dang...That wind is brutal, makes it hard to concentrate or feel good about your performance. Hopefully it will start to die down soon.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.000.008.00

51F, 7 mph wind.  7:55 AP -- Started out 8:20s and had a natural progression to 7:30s.  Really trying to cherish these cool mornings while they last, I wished I had time for more miles today.

1140s #3 Miles: 8.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 11:01:36 from 67.79.11.242

It wasn't windy here either...YEAH! The humidity was still high though. I got up at 5:00 to run, everything was good except for the black dog that tried to bite me.

From Rye on Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 12:59:19 from 168.103.132.84

Looks like great running weather. I am running after work this afternoon when the temps are going to be about 45 degrees and 5 mph winds and sunshine!!!! Can't wait.

From Burt on Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 15:19:02 from 206.19.214.144

Cherish is the word I use to describe all these feeling that I have hiding here for you inside.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
7.003.0010.00

50F, low winds, another great morning for running.  If only there were some sunshine, it would be perfect.  Ran 5 easy going out, then a progressive 5 coming back (7:33, 7:23, 7:13, 7:05, 6:50).  Average for the 10 miles was 7:44.  Guess an entire week of easy runs was too much to ask, who could've guessed?

1150s Miles: 10.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From seeaprilrun on Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 09:51:02 from 72.205.227.203

Nice progressive run Joe! Looking strong!

From I Just Run on Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 10:20:03 from 67.79.11.242

I'd call that perfect running weather. It was great here too but opted to go to the gym.

Have you signed up for OK yet...?

From SlowJoe on Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 13:04:34 from 131.59.200.80

Thanks April.

IJR - opted for the TM?!? Yeah, actually forgot to mention I just signed up for OKC yesterday. So I am running it for sure, whether it's 90 degrees or 50.

From I Just Run on Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 13:08:55 from 67.79.11.242

Yeah...I like to do some of my recovery runs on the treadmill since my running near my house is so hilly. I can't keep an even pace or heart rate. Also, when I go to the gym I can do some weight training also.

I've got (family) approval to go to OK so I think I'll sign up today too.

From flatlander on Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 13:21:15 from 198.207.244.102

Good luck at OKC guys. Joe, maybe that 50F is headed this way? That would be a major pleasant surprise. Can't help thinking there is one more cold front left in this winter.

From SlowJoe on Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 13:29:28 from 131.59.200.82

Flat - don't think this is front-related -- believe it or not our average low for Mar 24 is 46F, so this was normal. We'd just been having some warm stuff lately.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.140.006.14

8:32 AP.  Cut off the run, not feeling too well.  Looks like I'll be forced into not running tomorrow due to work so maybe the rest will be good, although I won't get much sleep.  If everything goes ok with work tomorrow, I should still be able to get in my 20-miler on Sunday.

New Blue Asics Miles: 6.14
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:31:58 from 67.79.11.242

Hey Joe,

I didn't even run this morning...went to bed really late. I'm going to have to run tomorrow too but am torn as to what to do. I have a 20 miler scheduled on Sunday also. Hummm...tomorrow..? run hard, run long, run hard and long, run easy, run short, run short and easy..? Now you know how complicated my thoughts are in my running schedule :)

From SlowJoe on Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 11:08:56 from 131.59.200.82

I like to do an easy 6-miler the day before going 20 (although like I said I can't run tomorrow). But I've also seen people go 10+ the day before so they are running on tired legs to mimic the marathon. I'm not that ambitious.

From I Just Run on Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 11:12:47 from 67.79.11.242

Sorry I mis-read...the "not running"...

Since I didn't run today I think I will be ambitious and do the 10 followed by the 20. We'll see how that goes. Have a great weekend. BTW...I didn't sign up yesterday for OK but I will today.

From derhammer on Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 15:28:31 from 192.156.110.39

Joe -

Did you get a water belt yet? I am curious as to what you do for hydration on a 20 mile run. In case you have interest I think the fuel belt is the best. It does not move around and I sometimes forget it is even there.

IRJ - what you do tomorrow should be based on what your plan is for the 20 miler on Sunday - easy all the way or MGP thrown in. If you want to get the most out of the 20 miler than tomorrow should be pretty easy. My two cents.

From SlowJoe on Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 16:10:50 from 131.59.200.80

DH - we do have a smaller 20 oz fuel belt (2 x 10 oz bottles). Never thought about taking it on a race until recently though; I do agree it's not that noticeable after awhile.

For my last 20-miler, I chugged water beforehand, carried a 20 oz gatorade bottle with me to nurse for the first 5 miles, then used the 20 oz on the belt throughout the last 15. Worked fine with cool temps, but I haven't had to do 20 in hot conditions yet. Fortunately this Sunday looks nice and cool.

From I Just Run on Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 16:27:37 from 67.79.11.242

As I had mentioned earlier this week in the Blog, I think that dehydration was one of the factors that affected me for a couple of days. As I remember I drank 16 oz of Powerade before bedtime, 16 oz in the middle of the night, 16 oz as soon as I got up, carried a 16 oz bottle and my belt with four 4 oz bottles and drank it all after 8 miles of run. I'm not sure what I'm going to do...maybe run small circles near my house or hide water bottles on the side of the road...? It's a delima for me, I can't carry 10 pounds of water and run very fast...LOL

From I Just Run on Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 16:58:33 from 67.79.11.242

Hey Der Hammer,

I was thinking of running the 10 easy then see how I felt for the 20. I would like to push for actual marathon pace (7:40 to 8:00) if possible.

Sorry Slow Joe for using your Blog for my discussion... :)

From derhammer on Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 17:32:15 from 192.156.110.39

Fortunately for me my group runs are all supported. That is, there is water and gatorade every 4 miles. However, on occasion some of us will deviate from the plan and supported course. In this case we will "plant" bottles of water or gatorade somewhere along the course. It requires a drive but it works for us. It's an idea anyway.

From flatlander on Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 20:01:24 from 76.31.26.153

Joe, hope you are feeling better. Don't hesitate to pull back tomorrow if needed.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
14.006.0020.00

Perfect weather: temps in the 40s, overcast, 10 mph wind.  7:32 AP for 20 miles.  I did 8 easy, 12 at "MP".  I was supposed to do a 10 + 10, but my plans changed; see below for the reason.

So I decided to go exploring a new route with this 20-miler.  We'll call it the prison loop.  Twice before, while running on isolated country roads, I've been stopped by shady-looking characters looking for directions to the prison.  Now I'll be able to help them!  Apparently there is a state prison just 7 or 8 miles from my front door...neat.  Well, my watch just beeped mile 8, and a car pulls up next to me.  I quickly glanced over and it says "Perimeter Security" on the side of the car.  The guard obviously wants to talk, but he's nice enough to let me keep running during the conversation.  We establish that I'm just out for a run and he says, "we were just wondering what you were doing running around a prison."  I asked, "was that a bad idea?"  He said, "well, our prisoners all wear white."  Guess what color shirt I had on.  I said, "Oh, so that WAS a bad idea."  He just kinda chuckled and we talked for another minute or so, and he "let me go" once he figured out I wasn't a threat (or an escaped convict).  Once he turned around I glanced at my watch and my pace had gone from 7:50s to 7:20s.  Well, I figured I might as well start the MP portion right then.  So I did 12 faster miles today.  To make the 20-mile loop complete, I looped around the water treatment/sewage plant.  Sometimes I just feel so lucky to have so many beautiful places to run.

First 8: AP 8:00.  Splits 8:14, 8:03, 8:09, 8:06, 7:59, 7:48, 7:49, 7:50.

Last 12:  AP 7:13.  Splits 7:34, 7:32, 7:28, 7:27, 7:18, 7:23, 7:19, 7:24, 7:13, 6:54, 6:49, 6:20.

I averaged a faster pace on this 20-miler than I did on my HM race last weekend.  In fact, my last 13.1 today was 1:35:17.  What was I doing in Longview??  Am I just hyper-sensitive to warm weather?  As excited as I am about this run, part of me considers it almost fake since I had nice weather today, and you never get nice weather for races.  I'm particularly excited to pull off a 5K pace mile for mile 20.  I wanted to empty the tank to see what I had left and there was plenty.  With good temperatures at OKC, my time should be really, really good.  I just wish I didn't fold so hard in the heat, because it's more likely to be warm there in May.

1150s Miles: 20.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Tracy on Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 12:15:49 from 173.23.75.249

Heat is definitely a factor, but don't stress it too much. Probably as May approaches you'll be more conditioned to the heat anyway, so hopefully that'll help!

Good pace. Is it any surprise that getting mistaken for a prisoner would make you run faster? Must be subliminal. Next time wear your racing shirt.

From SlowJoe on Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 12:29:54 from 184.79.24.255

See I would've thought the prisoners wore orange...next time, racing shirt.

From DaleG on Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 14:10:06 from 173.147.96.28

Wow, what an adventure. good thing the guard didn't tackle you. LOl. NIce job on the run. It would be so hard to focus on the run with so much beautiful scenery.

From derhammer on Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 14:29:09 from 70.113.116.112

Great job - nice strong finish - that will pay dividends come race day. I am going to post something here that came from a runner in our group that ran 2:40's in his last 2 marathons, one was San Antonio in 09 - which was a disaster heat wise, and this year in Houston, which was warm and 100% humidity. I hope it helps.

Here you go: (Sorry, it's kinda long)

My most important piece of advice would be this: put the weather completely out of your mind. Don't think about it, don't worry about it, don't talk about it, try your best to forget about it entirely. You can't change it, you can't control it, so don't waste any mental energy on it. I believe that while marathon training is a physical undertaking, the marathon itself is mostly a mental endeavor. You need all of your mental focus on what you can control, on the task at hand. Giving yourself a weather excuse or letting the weather steal focus from your plan can only detract from you reaching your goal.

Racing a marathon is about belief ... belief in your training, belief in your ability and belief you can reach your goal. If you believe you can do it, you just might. If you believe the weather will hurt you, it probably will.

As for the physical side, my plan in the two humid marathons I've run has been to take 1 gatorade and 1 water at each water stop. In S.A. I switched to no gatorade and 2 waters on the second half, dumping the second one over my head. In Houston I stayed with the 1/1 plan the whole race. What I didn't do was stress about getting enough "hydration". I took what I could and kept racing. Don't waste energy because you only got 4 ounces instead of 8 ounces.

As for nutrition, in SA I took a Gu every 5 miles, but in Houston I only took 1 Gu at mile 18. Again, I didn't stress about it. Mental focus needs to go into the race, not the water, the Gu, the weather.

I don't know if any of this helps, but I can't stress enough how important I think the mental side of the marathon is. For such an intensely physical thing, your thoughts are what matter and what will actually determine your experience. Not the weather.

Best of luck.

From flatlander on Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 16:17:29 from 76.31.26.153

That is truly a great run and a funny report. I think you are bullet-proof for a PR in OKC no matter the weather, unless it is 100+ or something crazy dangerous like that, and you have a major PR lined up even if the weather is imperfect but at least a little bit reasonable. Like DH says, think positive and don't worry about it.

From SlowJoe on Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 18:06:22 from 184.79.24.255

DG - yeah, glad I escaped that one. Fortunately the sewage plant didn't smell too bad.

DH - thanks for posting that - it sounds like good advice to me. I've found myself wondering if I mentally defeated myself in the Houston marathon the last 10K. Could I have just sped up? Not sure... Pretty sure I quit trying in Longview last weekend.

FL - thanks, I'm hoping with my improvements I've created enough of a buffer where 3:20 will be possible on a warmer day (or a PR at least, like you said). I think the other piece for me is that I need to negative split my effort better in a race since that's what I do in training and is more comfortable to me.

From TexasLindsey on Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 19:15:02 from 70.253.136.27

That's hilarious! I even read that outloud to my husband so he could laugh!

It was great weather for running today in north Texas! You had an awesome run today! I'm sure you'll hit your goal at your marathon!

From I Just Run on Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 23:08:22 from 71.41.149.142

Whooo...Hoooo great run Turbo Joe... I'm trying my best to catch up to you so we can run together in OKC but the way you're improving I don't think it's going to happen.

BTW...notice how I didn't say anything about how I hope the weather is good in OKC this time... :)

From seeaprilrun on Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 08:46:46 from 72.205.227.203

Joe, I love what flatlander posted. Nothing is going to stop you from sub 3:20 but your mind--you are in fantastic shape and are going to pull off a massive, massive pr!

From SlowJoe on Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 10:44:09 from 131.59.200.80

Lindsey - thanks, it was definitely a great day for a run. Usually the most exciting thing that happens to me is a staredown with a bunch of cows.

IJR - thanks, I'll do my best too. Save my excuses for after the race!

Thanks April, I'll definitely be happy with any improvement over Houston since that was a great race for me.

From Burt on Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 23:15:33 from 72.223.90.79

This is your best entry ever. And even if you were an escaped convict, I don't think you would have been much of a threat. No hard feelings, eh?

From SlowJoe on Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 20:05:42 from 184.79.24.255

Burt...I'm gonna shank you in your sleep.

From Burt on Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 20:12:11 from 206.19.214.144

yawn.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
11.000.0011.00

47F, wind N 12 mph, light rain/mist.  Nice and refreshing morning for a run.  I just did base miles today, 8:03 AP.

My legs knew it was Tempo Tuesday, but I had to deny them any speedwork today.  I have my PFT tomorrow (pushups, situps, 1.5 mile run) so I will move the tempo run to Thursday.  My goal will be to crack 9:00 (6:00 pace) on the run portion.  I think I'm in shape for it but I always underestimate how much the pushups and situps take out of me.  FYI, less than 2 years ago I ran a 13:30 (9:00 pace) and almost failed this test...

1140s #3 Miles: 11.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 11:15:54 from 67.79.11.242

Good luck on the test ... Ah, it will be easy this year!

From Rye on Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 14:44:25 from 168.103.41.216

And you are just scratching the surface with your running.

From flatlander on Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:11:11 from 76.31.26.153

The people on this blog are extraordinary runners -- sometimes that gets lost because we just talk to each other but there are very few people doing what we are doing. Good luck on the test, I think you will break 9.

From SlowJoe on Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 20:30:58 from 184.79.24.255

Thanks guys. Flat - yeah, don't know about you but I feel like a slowpoke on the blog and a speedstar other places (work, local races). That's why I like this blog, it lets you know you have a long way to go.

Race: AF PFT (1.5 Miles) 00:08:53, Place overall: 1, Place in age division: 1
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
4.501.506.00

What the hey, let's make it a race report...  I got to my test early and did 4 warmup miles.  Then started the test - there are 4 components: a waist measurement, # pushups in a minute, # situps in a minute, and a 1.5 mile run.

I got max points on waist, pushups, and situps.  I hit 57 (max points) pushups with about 15 seconds to go, and 54 situps (max) with about 10 seconds to spare.  Then I needed just a 9:34 on the 1.5 mile run to get a perfect score, but my goal was to break 9:00.  Jogged about a half-mile to the start line...  My quarter-mile splits for the run:

1:25

1:30 (2:55)

1:31 (4:26)

1:31 (5:57...mile PR)

1:32 (7:29)

1:24 (8:53!)

woohoo!  I've actually never broken a 6-minute mile before, so this is a pretty nice result.

Saucony A4 Miles: 2.001140s #3 Miles: 4.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Tracy on Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 13:12:11 from 209.175.177.37

Wow! I was just reading yesterday's goal report, so it wasn't much of a cliffhanger.

You impress me, sir.

From Kelli on Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 13:27:20 from 71.219.97.85

HOLY CRAP!!! That is one heck of a fast mile and a half. And a nice little mile PR in there! Incredible.

What was this test for?

From seeaprilrun on Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 20:18:47 from 72.205.227.203

Sweet! I bet it's awesome to crack that 6:00 barrier and I'm sure you impressed some folks! The whole "Slowjoe" thing just isn't gonna fly anymore.

From SlowJoe on Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 20:26:11 from 184.79.24.255

Tracy - thank you ma'am!

Kelli - it's a regular thing (every 6 mo - 1 yr) the Air Force does to make sure everyone stays in shape.

April - Yeah I could tell there weren't any other runners in our group taking the test, I was by myself. I gotta stay Slowjoe for motivation though!

From SlowJoe'sGrl on Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 20:33:49 from 184.79.24.255

You forgot to mention your jersey you got to wear over your clothes. You should have asked to keep it, so you could try it out for the next race.

From Kelli on Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 22:26:12 from 71.219.97.85

Very Good, I wish they would do that for cops!!! My husband is trying, but the fat/lazy/out of shape cops (with seniority) always fight him on it and win.

I agree, no more SLOWJOE.

From flatlander on Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 09:43:48 from 76.31.26.153

You're in Burt's league now. He also ran a sub-6 mile a few weeks ago. For me, maybe someday (sigh).

From SlowJoe on Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 10:30:55 from 131.59.200.80

Kelli - I always passionately hated the test until I started running, so I can see where the old fat cops are coming from, but your husband is right; it definitely makes sense that you'd need to stay in shape.

Flat - Training for marathons we never have to go that fast. But I bet if you ever went to the track to do an all out mile, you could do it.

From Burt on Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 21:16:19 from 206.19.214.144

Mark - Joe is way out of my league. Just a fool to believe I have anything he needs. He's like the wind.

From Tracy on Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 21:17:33 from 173.23.75.249

He leads you to moonlight only to burn you with the sun.

From Burt on Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 21:19:32 from 206.19.214.144

He's breaking my heart, but he doesn't know what he's done.

From Tracy on Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 21:22:27 from 173.23.75.249

Patrick Swayze. How we miss you.

From Tracy on Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 21:22:38 from 173.23.75.249

Or how Burt misses you.

From Burt on Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 21:24:21 from 206.19.214.144

I do. But not as much as Hans and Frans do.

From SlowJoe on Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 22:17:21 from 184.79.24.255

I still think Chris Farley was a better dancer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ai9IEkYrZQk

From I Just Run on Fri, Apr 01, 2011 at 10:39:19 from 67.79.11.242

Let's take a vote....

Turbo Joe

or

Slow Joe

Which should it be.....?

From Burt on Fri, Apr 01, 2011 at 10:40:20 from 72.223.90.79

Joe Uncool.

From Burt on Fri, Apr 01, 2011 at 10:46:54 from 72.223.90.79

Dang it! You are cool! I'm just jealous.

From SlowJoe'sGrl on Fri, Apr 01, 2011 at 11:33:08 from 184.79.24.255

I like Joe Uncool, but then I'd have to change mine to joeUncool'sGrl, and that would imply that I am uncool, which is definitely not true.

From flatlander on Fri, Apr 01, 2011 at 13:11:14 from 198.207.244.102

Joe, thanks for the kind words, I'm afraid to try, probably injure myself. As for the nickname, we definitely need to stay away from Uncool, for Danielle's sake.

From Kelli on Fri, Apr 01, 2011 at 13:27:41 from 71.219.97.85

freakin' fast joe???

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
7.155.8513.00

Low 40s, great running weather.  I wanted to do 7 easy, 6 tempo (6:50s) but fell a little short.  Not sure why, I was pretty sure I'd be able to pull it off but I guess it wasn't my day.  The tempo miles were 6:55, 6:54, 6:53, 6:54, 6:57, 7:21.  I was dead tired and actually stopped after 5 and started jogging it in, giving up, but then remembered that I always regret doing that.  So after about 0.15 at a jog, I tried to pick the pace back up.  Never got it back below 7, but I definitely suffered quite a bit while trying so hopefully that makes me faster down the road.  AP for 13 miles was 7:36.

1150s Miles: 13.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 13:26:12 from 67.79.11.242

Hey Joe,

Did you do a slow mile then a fast mile? That's what I did the other day...?

IJR

From SlowJoe on Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 14:04:32 from 131.59.200.80

IJR - no, did the 7 easy miles up front, then tried to pound out the 6 fast ones...keeping the HR up for an extended period.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
4.700.004.70

low 60s, windy.  We had a "fun run" today at work so I did an easy 5k or so before I left, thinking they would probably be a little skimpy on the distance.  They were...about 1.6 on the fun run.  Just a recovery day anyway, so altogether that about did the trick.

New Blue Asics Miles: 4.70
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Rye on Fri, Apr 01, 2011 at 10:29:29 from 174.27.121.86

Great week for ya, you need a "fun day"

Hey, congrats on the run the other day breaking 9. That is awesome. joestud...

From Tracy on Fri, Apr 01, 2011 at 11:16:19 from 209.175.177.37

I wish they would do a fun run at my work.

From I Just Run on Fri, Apr 01, 2011 at 23:22:24 from 166.205.15.53

Now are your "New Blue Asics" still new after 444 miles? Good running this week!

ICR

From DaleG on Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 00:26:13 from 152.216.7.5

Nice recovery day. Do you have any races before OKC?

From SlowJoe on Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 09:50:31 from 184.79.24.255

Thanks Rye, believe it or not I ended up getting some free leave out of it.

Tracy - where I work they always manage to suck out all the "fun" from everything but at least they are trying.

IJR - I hate those shoes. I can't run fast in them and they won't seem to wear out so I use them on recovery days.

Thanks Dale, nope not planning anything until OKC right now.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.000.008.00

mid 50s, 8mph wind.  Did 8 at an AP of 7:58.  Tomorrow I'm doing 16 on what will be the hottest day of the year so far; should be a good opportunity to do a long run under adverse conditions.

1140s #3 Miles: 8.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From seeaprilrun on Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 10:06:49 from 72.205.227.203

Sounds like a solid plan. Oklahoma is looking to be hot this year...so I guess you should prepare. I am totally digging the winter marathon concept--where do you go to run a marathon in a brisk windless 30 degrees? I'm with you--I melt in the heat and have wings in the cold...as long as it's not ridiculously cold!

From SlowJoe on Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 10:11:28 from 184.79.24.255

I thought Houston would've been close to those perfect conditions... Let me know when you find that marathon and I will meet you there!

From I Just Run on Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 11:09:38 from 71.41.149.142

Good run week Joe...Can you run my 20 tomorrow for me?

From flatlander on Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 15:06:20 from 76.31.26.153

Come back to Houston, guys, promise to do better next time.

From DaleG on Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 01:25:00 from 67.2.13.107

Good luck on your run tomorrow...Or today. LOL

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
16.000.0016.00

70F, south wind 21-34 mph.  Basically a preview of June temperatures today (with typical April winds).  Should get into the mid 90s this afternoon.

For the run, I started in the 8:20s and worked my way down to 7:20s.  AP was 7:53.  I was pretty happy with how I felt the whole time, given the temperature and the often ridiculous wind.  I don't think I could've broken 3:20 today but at least it wasn't as painful as I imagined.

1150s Miles: 16.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From flatlander on Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 11:30:49 from 75.199.63.146

That is ridiculous wind, it goes away after spring, right? Good run, you have one more before your taper, right?

From Tom Slick on Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 12:33:33 from 69.171.160.36

Great mileage start of the week.....

From Tracy on Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 19:04:11 from 173.23.75.249

I'm impressed with your handling of the wind. Good pace!

From SlowJoe on Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 22:38:20 from 184.79.24.255

Flat - Yep, one more 20+ miler...maybe 22...next weekend. March and April are the worst months for wind here.

Thanks Tom!

Thanks Tracy, tried to keep the route mostly east/west but I had a few headwind miles in there that were SLOW.

From I Just Run on Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 10:07:38 from 67.79.11.242

Hey Turbo Joe,

I just want to let you know I bought an orange running shirt to wear in OKC since I liked yours in your profile picture so much :)

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
0.000.000.00

Well, after 3 solid months with no injury concerns, I finally have another one -- left achilles area.  I had some weird twinges while running yesterday but nothing that would even make me think about stopping.  I iced it, took nsaids yesterday, and this morning it's bothering me quite a bit more while walking.  I didn't plan on running today anyway, but this feels like something that will stick around for awhile, we'll see...

Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Rye on Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 13:48:19 from 71.209.6.105

I will through out some positive vibes for ya joe....

From derhammer on Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 17:33:46 from 192.156.110.31

Bummer, sorry to hear this.

From Burt on Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 00:24:32 from 72.223.90.79

Yikes. And to add insult to injury, now someone's snatched up the moniker speedyjoe.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.000.005.00

Upper 30s, low wind (perfect for the long tempo I had planned).  But, I got this achilles thing.  I wanted to see if it got worse or better while running.  It mostly stayed the same, and if anything, got a little better -- just a dull ache.  I just took short strides and kept it easy, 8:16 AP.  Of course, I also had an obscene amount of anti-inflammatories in my system.  The main body of the tendon is not sore at all, any soreness I can actually touch is at the bottom of the calf.  Reason for hope?

This week will be more runs just like this (relative rest) and hopefully I can return to some better training next week since I'm supposed to be in peak training for OKC right now....

1140s #3 Miles: 5.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Tracy on Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 10:06:40 from 209.175.177.37

You won't lose your fitness in one week. I think it's smart that you're taking a wait-and-see attitude.

From Rye on Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 12:22:46 from 71.209.6.105

Pill popper!

From DaleG on Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 14:22:08 from 67.2.23.16

Roll it out, if you can. I have that problem a lot. In fact, just yesterday I was at the podiatrist getting fitted for some new orthotics and he told me I have the tightest Achilles tendons he's ever seen. Try and stretch them out more. I'm going to do it more.

From seeaprilrun on Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 15:14:34 from 72.205.227.203

I agree with Tracy! Hey...I noticed today that there is a speedyjoe on the blog! You still need a new name...

From derhammer on Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 17:11:04 from 192.156.110.33

Smart to take it easy. I know you don't need someone to tell you it is not wise to load up on NSAID's before you run, so I won't. :-)

Take it easy because you don't want it to turn into out and out tendinitis: http://www.drmirkin.com/fitness/8513.html

I was out for 10 days last year before the Austin Marathon - cross training during that time saved me.

I want to add that I have had this pain before, too, and I was able to run through it. I kept training and it went away after a while. So one never knows how one's body will respond. Keep taking it easy and going by feel - non-medicated feel, though.

From SlowJoe on Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 19:35:25 from 184.79.24.255

Tracy - yeah i read enough stuff on the internet to scare me...not enough to stop running on it, but close.

Rye - I prefer the term pill-junkie.

Thanks Dale, haven't tried rolling it out yet; seems like that would be a good way to stretch it without aggravating it.

April - I was reading Fox in Sox every night to my daughter at the time I signed up for FRB. Speedy Joe was not mentioned.

DH - I have a nsaid-weaning process (patent pending) that's worked in the past...not the textbook way to fix things, but it's kept me going while I slowly heal. Good to hear you were able to run through it; I'm prepared to shut it down if it starts getting worse.

From flatlander on Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 22:01:11 from 76.31.26.153

Mine gets better and worse all the time, but it is the one thing that will sideline me if anything ever does. So I guess you could say I respect it but to this point have not allowed it to dictate my workouts. I'm sure there's a better approach out there than mine.

From Kelli on Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 23:03:52 from 71.219.97.85

Be careful with that Achilles, an injury there is scary!!!

You.....are.....faster....

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

62F, winds SSW 27-45 mph.  yeah.  Obviously I'm still running easy this week, although my stride feels funny fighting that much wind.  I would say my achilles is better than yesterday, and with only a single human-size dose of mobic today.  The slight discomfort seemed to get slightly better as I ran again today, but it was still present.  Moving in the right direction though, I think.  Huge improvement from a couple days ago -- as I was limping around at work it felt like a season-ender on Monday but I am cautiously optimistic right now.  8:16 AP.

1140s #3 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Tracy on Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 10:19:02 from 209.175.177.37

Good lord. I hate wind. Impressive battling and great pace in those monstrous gusts!

From Rye on Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 10:23:05 from 71.209.6.105

Holy crap! Nasty winds.... glad things are looking good for you with your nagging aches and pains. Sounds like your biggest problem is those darn winds.

From SlowJoe on Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 10:39:39 from 131.59.200.82

Just checked and it's now 34 gusting to 50...I guess it could've been worse. I think I would take the wind every day if it meant no injuries.

From derhammer on Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 12:12:18 from 192.156.110.39

Great news ... glad to hear it!

From I Just Run on Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 13:25:27 from 67.79.11.242

You just need a sail you can open when you're running with the wind and then you could "Run Like The Wind"....!

ICR

From seeaprilrun on Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 18:28:52 from 72.205.227.203

The wind has been crazy here too! I hope it dies down before your race...because that's mighty stiff wind! Glad you achilles is better. Mobic is amazing stuff, far superior to motrin in my opinion. So, only 15mg today?

From SlowJoe on Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 22:24:27 from 184.79.24.255

DH - not sayin I'm out of the woods yet, but...whew

IJR - the tailwind does feel like flying -- almost like all you have to do is pick up your legs and get whisked forward.

April - I'm actually down to 7.5 now. I am definitely a fan, it's my 3rd "****itis" injury where it's come in handy.

From flatlander on Thu, Apr 07, 2011 at 09:29:17 from 76.31.26.153

Good news, hope the trend continues. Those are gale-force winds, unbelievable.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.000.008.00

66F, wind S 12 mph.  More of the same but 8 miles today, 8:11 AP.  Achilles felt about the same, dull ache.  I'm trying to figure out if a day off is in order to speed things along.  I'd really like to get another solid week or two of really beating up my legs plus another 20+ miler before OKC.

1150s Miles: 8.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Tracy on Thu, Apr 07, 2011 at 10:36:18 from 209.175.177.37

At least the wind was not bad today :)

I'd take a day off. But I'm also lazy.

From flatlander on Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 09:51:02 from 76.31.26.153

Day off, you won't miss it and your achilles will thank you.

From flatlander on Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 09:51:20 from 76.31.26.153

Not that I would.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.000.008.00

67F, wind S 12 mph.  I decided to keep running on it since it felt like it improved overnight.  Once I started running there wasn't much of a difference though, maybe a little better but definitely not worse.  Either that, or I'm not paying as much attention to it anymore.

The run was 8:10 AP, and I felt out of shape, awkward and sluggish.  I hope I can get in a good week of training next week before I need to taper a bit.  If there is still some discomfort while running tomorrow, I might can the long run this weekend and hope to get in a 20-miler the next weekend which will still be 2 weeks out.

1140s #3 Miles: 8.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Burt on Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 13:47:24 from 206.19.214.144

Good luck.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.000.008.00

70F, wind S 22 mph.  Mini heat wave this weekend; the high today is 99!

8:17 AP felt tough again, really sluggish.  I can still feel a little tugging in the achilles area, but I think it's almost healed.  So my new plan is to do a really short, slow run tomorrow to hopefully finish the healing, and go long on Monday since I'll be on local leave.  My secret reason for doing the long run on Monday is that it's going to be 20+ degrees cooler.

1140s #3 Miles: 8.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Rye on Sat, Apr 09, 2011 at 13:02:02 from 174.27.65.38

Smart thinking joe. You would have loved it this morning in Idaho.... 35 degrees and no wind. Have a grand weekend!

From seeaprilrun on Sat, Apr 09, 2011 at 21:07:32 from 174.70.177.86

That is most excellent planning for a long run! I would have loved Idaho for runnning too!

From derhammer on Sat, Apr 09, 2011 at 22:58:28 from 70.113.116.112

yup - crazy weather. We had to finally break down and turn on the A/C for the first time this year.

From I Just Run on Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 00:12:47 from 166.137.13.124

You know I was once told its always either HOT or WINDY in Abilene...Now I know that was a lie...its always both hot and windy....!

From flatlander on Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 08:42:39 from 76.31.26.153

Gee, it didn't notice that temperature drop for Monday. (I lie.)

From SlowJoe on Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 15:54:01 from 184.79.24.255

Rye - sounds perfect, clearly I need a summer home in Idaho.

April - if you're not cheating you're not trying.

DH - yeah we filled up the kids' pool. didn't think we'd ever get it out this early

IJR - the south wind seems to actually bring the heat!

Flat - I'm a close watcher of the forecast these days.

From I Just Run on Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 21:37:30 from 166.205.15.108

Wait a minute Slow Joe...I live south of you. Are you saying there's a lot of HOT AIR coming from my direction?

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
0.000.000.00

Meh...gonna end up with no run today.  Desire to rest the achilles before my long run, and laziness share the blame.

I tried some calf drops (eccentric calf raises?) on the bad side and it seemed to aggravate it just a little.  Guess it is still a little too early to strengthen things down there.  Still planning to do this long run tomorrow.

Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
18.003.0021.00

Start 58F, wind NW 12 mph.  Finish 58F, wind N 20-25 mph.  Didn't quite get the low temperatures forecasted but still pretty nice.  Going out I ran north, so there was a small quartering headwind on the way out, but by the time I turned around I had a big direct tailwind.  So kind of an aided course overall; guess I gamed it nicely today.

I wanted to keep the run no faster than GMP, but that tailwind on the way back home was just carrying me along and I couldn't let it go to waste.  Still held back some though, I think this will be a fast recovery.

Splits were 8:18, 8:01, 8:13, 8:19, 8:14, 8:08, 8:06, 8:12, 8:00, 7:55, 7:57, 7:51, 7:43, 7:43, 7:43, 7:45, 7:35, 7:25, 7:18, 7:12, 6:59.   AP 7:50.

I didn't even feel my achilles (unless I tried) until mile 9 or 10, then it started tugging on the uphills.  It stayed at a dull ache most of the rest of the way.  I think I must be favoring it a bit when I run because I was having some weird aches and pains on the left (bad) side: hip flexor, groin, glute.  After the run, I made an ice bath -- cold water plus whatever ice we had.  That was an experience.  I think it helped though.

1140s #3 Miles: 21.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 11:33:41 from 67.79.11.242

Wow...that looks like a great run to me!

Hold it together til OKC...!

From Tracy on Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 14:52:40 from 209.175.177.37

3 weeks. You can make it.

Great miles! I think you said this was your last long run before OKC, right?

From seeaprilrun on Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 19:51:35 from 174.70.177.86

Nice long run! Is this the last big one before Oklahoma City? I'm willing to bank that during the taper the achilles issue works itself out and you come roaring in for a good race. You are in awesome shape right now.

From flatlander on Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 09:43:30 from 76.31.26.153

You are looking really good, glad you had reasonable temperatures for the run. I agree with April, achilles probably just needs rest.

From derhammer on Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 11:07:30 from 192.156.110.39

Good job - only 19 days until the big day!

From SlowJoe on Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 22:59:21 from 184.79.24.255

IJR - still hanging on for now

Thanks Tracy, gonna do 18 this weekend, then start to taper off.

April - yeah I'm counting on the taper to heal up some small stuff

Flat, DH - thanks, I think I'll make it...

From JG on Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 23:44:30 from 98.88.204.18

Wind or no wind, that is an awesome run, strong finish! For what it is worth, especially with the Achilles issue ... I would bag the 18 for Saturday, maybe 13 with last 6 to 10 at MP, depending on how it feels. I think you would benefit from a little more taper than adding another long run, as it looks like you already got some really good ones in. Good Luck!

From SlowJoe on Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 23:17:01 from 184.79.24.255

Thanks JG. I actually have a run like the one you are describing planned for next week, and I am kicking around the idea of snipping a few miles from the LR this weekend. Appreciate the advice!

From DaleG on Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 23:26:39 from 152.216.7.5

Awesome job man!!! I'd say you're ready to rock and or roll. Tailwinds sure are nice, but I also like some headwind to help keep me cool. I always over-heat.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
4.000.004.00

4 recovery miles in the evening.

New Blue Asics Miles: 4.00
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
7.000.007.00

60F, wind S 13 mph.  7:59 AP.  Feeling pretty good this morning.  I'm not noticing my achilles too much while running, so it's close to healed.  No anti-inflammatories in my system for this one either!

1150s Miles: 7.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 09:49:46 from 67.79.11.242

Good news on the achillies...now if I can just have a miraculous recovery I'll be with you in OKC!

From Tracy on Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 09:54:38 from 209.175.177.37

That's good news for the day! Good luck with it on your long run this weekend!

From Rye on Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:28:59 from 174.27.65.38

Drug free! Good luck with the rest of the week. Don't falloff the wagon.

From flatlander on Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 17:12:06 from 198.207.244.102

Good news on the injury, hope that holds. Looks like we have warmer weather coming our way.

From SlowJoe on Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 23:25:33 from 184.79.24.255

Thanks all!

From seeaprilrun on Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 08:43:03 from 174.70.177.86

Glad to see you are drug-free with plenty of time to spare for Oklahoma!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
12.000.0012.00

66F, S 15-22 mph.  8:03 AP.  Felt worn out, but managed a few GMP at the end.

1140s #3 Miles: 12.00
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

53F, 8 mph wind.  8:36 avg pace.  Wasted some great running weather with a recovery run but I think I needed it.  Looks like I'll be working all weekend...$!#%

New Blue Asics Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Tracy on Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 10:54:40 from 209.175.177.37

You need more recovery runs! Don't think of it as wasted. Your body loves you for those runs :)

Booo work! Quit your job and live off the land.

From derhammer on Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 11:05:54 from 192.156.110.31

Ha, I feel the same way sometimes. But Tracy is right, recovery runs are so important. Matt Fitzgerald has an interesting take on why they are some important in Brain Training for Runners.

In a nutshell it is not for what we have been taught, e.g. to get the blood flowing, etc, but rather to keep taxing the glycogen fuel system while its low, and this can be done by running another run within 24 hours of a hard run.

From flatlander on Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 18:19:06 from 198.207.244.102

Good run, hope we get some of that weather down here. Interesting theory, DH. I have always thought that running tired is good training but have never been able to articulate. I'm going to have to read some of these books.

From Burt on Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 23:46:24 from 72.223.90.79

Tracy's right. She's always right.

From Rye on Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 13:12:37 from 71.32.181.43

You are such a devoted worker! Don't let it get to your running.

From Tracy on Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 13:18:30 from 173.24.38.54

I'm always right, even when I'm wrong. Glad someone understands.

From SlowJoe on Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 14:51:17 from 184.79.24.255

Tracy - you are right...about quitting work. It just doesn't mesh with running as well as I would like, so i think I'm just not going to go anymore.

DH - interesting, I always thought of recovery runs as just a way to get in more mileage without killing yourself.

Thanks Flat, looks like the whole state cooled off today.

I know Burt...I know.

Rye - going AWOL right now!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.000.008.00

40F, 2mph wind.  Perfect day for running, but I just did 7 at an 8:13 pace this morning.  Then quickly packed up the kids to watch mommy get another 5K PR at a local race.  Then we ran with the kids in the 1 mile fun run.  I ran with our 4-year-old; she did the first quarter mile in about 2 minutes then a lot of walking after that, finishing just under 15 for the mile.  Then off to work, which ended up being pretty much cancelled for the day.  Still gotta go in tomorrow, but I'll try to get in a longish run beforehand.

1140s #3 Miles: 7.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Tracy on Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 15:28:49 from 173.24.38.54

I love those kiddie races :)

From flatlander on Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 07:38:33 from 76.31.26.153

Great fun, glad you got in some running too. Have never done a kiddie run (doesn't go well with my AARP card), but with a couple of granddaughters starting to run a little, I can definitely see a future for myself.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
11.006.0017.00

61F, wind S 15-22 mph.  Plan was for 7 easy, 10 @ GMP.  Actual was 7 easy, 4 @ GMP, 6 tempo.  I love that I was able to pull this off with a temperature above 60 (barely above 60, but whatever).

7 easy - AP 8:06 -- 8:26, 8:00, 8:10, 8:06, 8:00, 7:55, 8:03

10 hard - AP 7:07 -- 7:23, 7:27, 7:27, 7:20, 7:08, 7:09, 7:01, 6:47, 6:46, 6:42

Overall AP 7:31.

Unlike my last long run, the last 10 here were overall neutral/unaided.  My legs were pretty fresh for this run with a couple easy days prior to today.  I think I have been underestimating how important that is, and instead putting all the importance on temperature.  My taper (which begins....NOW) should take care of that.  No complaints from my achilles either, feeling good!

1150s Miles: 17.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Burt on Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 11:40:09 from 72.223.90.79

92! 92! 92!

Great long run.

From Tracy on Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 11:54:53 from 173.24.38.54

Damn! Nice run!

From seeaprilrun on Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 19:28:14 from 174.70.177.86

Sweet run Joe! sub 3:20 is looking mighty fine!

From DaleG on Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 22:03:30 from 67.2.5.24

Way to go!!! Now you can relax a little.

From flatlander on Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 16:24:21 from 198.207.244.102

Best news of all is no injuries going into the taper. Have never seen anybody get injured during a taper other than me.

From SlowJoe on Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 13:16:37 from 131.59.200.80

Thanks Burt - what's with the 92 all the time?

Thanks Tracy, April and Dale

Flat - no injuries is probably what I'm most excited about

From Burt on Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 13:37:03 from 206.19.214.144

Your quantcast was sitting at 92. And 92 happens to be my favorite number. 92! 92! 92!

From derhammer on Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 13:20:41 from 192.156.110.34

Nice run, nothing like fresh legs!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
9.000.009.00

73F, S 12 mph.  Hot one - we reached 100 in some parts of town yesterday so I guess it couldn't quite cool off from that overnight.

The plan is 20% fewer miles this week.  AP 8:04 today.  I was reading some of the Boston race reports from the blog's elite and it was interesting to me that a couple mentioned the "heat" (temps in the low 50s) being a factor.  Guess it's all relative.  If I get those kind of temperatures at OKC, I will sacrifice a goat on the altar of the god of running weather in appreciation of his mercy.

1140s #3 Miles: 9.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Tracy on Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 10:52:23 from 209.175.177.37

Maybe you should sacrifice the goat before the race in hopes that the gods will have mercy on you.

From derhammer on Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 14:15:12 from 192.156.110.32

I have to agree with you on the temps. 50's sounds great to me. The fastest marathon ever was run in those temps, so can't imagine anyone complaining about 50's.

From Rye on Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 18:22:59 from 174.27.65.38

You may get into some trouble with PETA with the blood sacrifice.

From flatlander on Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 23:17:41 from 76.31.26.153

The most common complaint I heard was that with the tailwind there was no wind-in-the-face cooling effect. The smart runners started dousing with water early, despite the low temperatures. I agree though, it is hard to feel too sorry for them when we are already running in the 70s every morning.

From SlowJoe on Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 15:24:42 from 131.59.200.82

Not a bad idea, Tracy.

DH - don't think they were complaining, just mentioned it as a factor which kind of confirmed my belief that the optimal temp is around 40 for a marathon

Rye - I guess burning the goat is out of the question?

Flat - yeah, I saw the same...those annoying tailwinds!

From seeaprilrun on Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 22:47:46 from 174.70.177.86

I must agree. 50 with a tailwind? Sounds good to me! 30 with a tailwind...even better!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.000.005.00

5 @ 8:23 AP.

Some pictures from the kids' run on Saturday...

 

Keira (3 yr old) made it half a mile with some assistance from mommy.

 

Elle (4 yr old) on the homestretch of the 1-mile race, keeping an wary eye on the strange giant blue bear (not pictured) who was cheering people in.

New Blue Asics Miles: 5.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 11:09:12 from 67.79.11.242

You know...I enjoy running but I don't think I'm ever as happy as Keira and Elle look when I run... :(

IJR

From JG on Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 11:11:32 from 74.190.51.125

Those are awesome pictures Joe! Enjoy your taper & Good Luck in OKC!

From DaleG on Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 13:16:24 from 67.2.22.92

Very, very cute. Reminds me of when my daughter was 3 and she ran her one and only kids k. She was freaked out by all the people cheering her on.

From SlowJoe'sGrl on Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 17:21:56 from 184.79.24.255

When he says assistance from Mommy that means that Mommy had to carry her for most of that half mile. When she asked to be carried, I picked her up and walked. She said, "Mommy, run faster." I'm paid the price for letting her eat all of those kit-kats.

From seeaprilrun on Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 22:46:43 from 174.70.177.86

Love the pics! Your girls are adorable!

From SlowJoe on Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 12:56:26 from 131.59.200.80

IJR - same here, I think I always have a look of imminent death on my face when I run.

Thanks JG

Dale - yeah, can't tell whether she liked the cheering or was scared by the bear

Danielle - you should have gone faster!

Thanks April

From Burt on Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 13:45:11 from 206.19.214.144

Cool pictures. Blue bears don't seem as scary as Easter bunnies.

From ChrisM on Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 11:47:02 from 82.26.212.49

Quick-sign them up to the blog! You saw them here first!

Good luck in the race!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
14.420.0014.42

57F, foggy, low wind.  This was my last actual workout before the marathon, and my last run of more than 8 miles.  Plan was 6 easy, 8 @ GMP.  For the 8 GMP miles I averaged 7:26 (7:27, 7:21, 7:24, 7:32, 7:24, 7:29, 7:25, 7:29).  The route I mapped was a little long so I cooled down the last 0.42.  7:45 AP for the run.

I was hoping it would feel nice and easy but I never got into a rhythm with it and never felt completely comfortable.  I still completed the workout but couldn't have completed a marathon today at that pace, even with these nice temperatures.  Fortunately I will have a taper, gu's, crowd support, etc. for the actual race.  I can also afford a bit slower pace for a 3:20; an extra 10 sec/mile could help.  So I'm not panicking.

1150s Miles: 14.42
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Tracy on Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 11:56:25 from 209.175.177.37

You'll do awesome!

From flatlander on Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 10:17:07 from 76.31.26.153

I am thinking that if you could do 15 at that pace you will be able to do the marathon with all the other factors thrown in. At least that is what I am telling myself, though I'm not really sure I can do 15 yet. But a very good run any way you look at it.

From JG on Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 10:24:23 from 74.176.15.75

That is a great run Joe, with taper, fueling, & race day adrenaline ... you should do great! Taper with lots of protein, and carbs the last few days, and your legs will be ready to rock n roll in OKC!

From SlowJoe on Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 10:51:33 from 184.79.24.255

Thanks Tracy

Flat - I'll buy that. I think I could've handled 15 like that yesterday. thanks

JG - thanks, will do!

From seeaprilrun on Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 10:46:32 from 174.70.177.86

I think you'll be fine, take the extra 10 seconds in the start, whatever feels easy, and save yourself for the end so you can hold onto your goal time. Marathon pacing and judging your own fitness is so tricky!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.000.005.00

69F, S 17-25 mph.  5 @ 8:37 pace.  First couple glances at the 10-day forecast show an overnight low of 55 for the race, and ~10 mph winds....that's decent.  Too early to trust it too much, but it would be better than Houston -- at least the first half of the race would be in the upper 50s if the forecast holds.

New Blue Asics Miles: 5.00
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
7.000.007.00

74F, S 15 mph.  8:18 AP, which felt exhausting in the sun.  I slept in a little today which was worth about a 5-degree penalty.  It's hard to bite the bullet and slow down, but I definitely don't want to be this tired during every run this summer.

1140s #3 Miles: 7.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 13:52:14 from 71.41.149.142

Sorry but I have to say this...I'm glad you said you were tired after the run :) I was beginning to think I had just lost everything and was a wimp. I think I've figured out above 70 degrees is not good. Although, if you would quit sending your wind and Flat would quit sending his humidity to me I might be able to tolerate 70's temperatures :) :)

From flatlander on Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 07:35:49 from 76.31.26.153

You're welcome.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.000.008.00

69F, S 15-20 mph.  7:49 AP on some nice fresh legs, included a quarter-mile hard up the one significant hill along my route.

Time to share my obsessive research on race day weather for OKC.  Here's the scoop so far.  Pretty much every place I've looked agrees that this coming weekend there will be a hot morning followed by a cold morning.  They disagree on when the cold air will arrive.  4 out of 7 think it will come before the race, including my two most trusted sites, weather.com and wundergound, which put the low at 53 and 49.  Awesome.  The other 3 out of 7 say the cold air doesn't arrive until after the race, including 2 local TV stations that put the low at 58 and 62.  Weather.com thinks the low will be 67 the morning before the front (which right now they say will be the morning before the race - Saturday).  So if it stalls out, it could be a painful day.  Guess I'll just keep checking it 5 times a day until I see what I want.

1150s Miles: 8.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From derhammer on Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 10:41:56 from 67.79.54.130

Try not to worry about it too much. I know it is easier said then done, but you will stress yourself out checking the weather 10 times a day. These things change hourly. Probably by Thursday there will be a more reliable report available. I have found the local TV stations are more reliable.

From I Just Run on Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 11:43:35 from 67.79.11.242

WOW....Everything you wrote sounds great to me!!! You didn't mention anything about 70+ degree weather and 90 percent humidity. I think that's the breaking point for me :) Think positive...It's going to be fun and hopfully not in the sun...!

From SlowJoe'sGrl on Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 13:00:02 from 184.79.24.255

Checking the weather 10 times a day is the only thing keeping him sane right now. Let him check the weather, please! I, on the other hand, create injuries that I'm not sure are real or not. Funny blog post about taper madness someone sent me.

http://blog.runnerslounge.com/2008/09/symptoms-and-tr.html

From I Just Run on Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 13:22:39 from 67.79.11.242

Ha....ha Slow Joe's Girl...that's hilarious. I'm in some sort of MADNESS too but you can't call it Taper Madness. Now that I'm somewhat recovered from my injury about 3 weeks ago and basiclly missed 20 days of training, I'm in a frantic frenzy to regroup, turbo-train and convince myself I can complete the race. So far I haven't done a very good job. I think I'm going crazy! My runs for the last five days have been 18,15,15,4,15 miles. The only reason one day was 4 is because I was traveling most of the day and just didn't have any more time to run. Anyone who reads this will think I'm completly insane...too...!

I Just Run

From seeaprilrun on Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 20:07:03 from 174.70.177.86

I am about falling out of my chair laughing at you two! Okay, so one person in the household with taper madness is bad enough but TWO! I can see it now...y'all sitting in the livingroom while Joe sits on the computer frantically checking his 7 weather websites and Danielle poking, prodding, stretching, and massaging all of her phantom injuries.

From SlowJoe'sGrl on Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 20:07:22 from 184.79.24.255

IJR - Hmmm...that's not a taper, so maybe you are just truly mad. Might want to get that checked out. Just kidding.

Joe's been making fun of me because I will limp around on my leg when there is nothing wrong with it...seriously. It's subconcious, but I guess I'm just try to protect that foot.

From SlowJoe'sGrl on Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 20:39:53 from 184.79.24.255

April - That's exactly how it is! You hit the nail on the head.

From SlowJoe on Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 21:59:03 from 184.79.24.255

DH - 5 times a day, not 10. I said 5 so no one would think I was crazy. 10 would be crazy, if that's what I was doing! But I'm not. Ok fine, 10. I don't really stress about it, I would liken it more to keeping track of your favorite team's game online when it's not on TV. Gotta get the latest!

IJR - well, a low of 67 means it'll approach 80 by the time we're done...not that I've thought much about it.

Danielle - I said 5! Ah never mind.

April - the sad thing is watching the kids have to take care of themselves this week. Just kidding about that one (kinda).

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.000.008.00

54F, low wind.  What a nice morning.  8 @ 7:48 AP, last 3 in the 7:20s.  I'm going to take tomorrow off (a chance to really focus on my amateur meteorology) and then a couple more short runs to shake things out on Thursday and Friday.  Travel Saturday, race Sunday.

1140s #3 Miles: 8.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 11:19:57 from 67.79.11.242

I'm on pins and needles waiting for the weather report...! I hope you post all of the details on your BLOG...! PLEASE....!

From JG on Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 13:24:21 from 98.88.203.138

Sounds like a good final week training run Joe! I think the forecast is ... A Personal Best for you on Sunday!

Good Luck!!

From Stacy on Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 13:34:41 from 97.114.167.56

GOOD LUCK!!!

From flatlander on Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 13:47:55 from 198.207.244.102

The thing about meteorology, amateurs are as good as the pros.

From Kelli on Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 19:18:10 from 71.219.96.115

It is going to be a GREAT race! You are ready. Have fun!!!

From Burt on Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 19:41:11 from 206.19.214.144

LOL Mark!

From DaleG on Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 23:17:30 from 152.216.7.5

I predict good weather.

From SlowJoe on Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 10:39:39 from 131.59.200.80

IJR - after looking at all the other guesses, my guess is: mid to upper 50s for the whole race. North wind 15-20 mph. So a moderate headwind to start, and tailwind to finish.

Thanks JG - I think I agree....

Thanks Stacy!

Flat - true statement sir.

Kelli/Burt/Dale - thanks, looking forward to it either way.

From I Just Run on Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 10:46:45 from 67.79.11.242

That doesn't sound too bad... The tailwind sounds really good! I wish I were better prepared for this race though.

IJR

From SlowJoe on Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 10:53:10 from 131.59.200.80

Hopefully the thunderstorms stay away, because it looks like there's a chance of them popping up. At least the clouds should give some nice shade...

From I Just Run on Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 10:58:02 from 67.79.11.242

Hey Joe,

What's your travel plans for the race? I guess I'm just going to drive up there on Saturday (8 hrs) and drive back after the race. My original plans was to take the RV, leave Friday and maybe come home on Monday. All that fell through...I don't think the family really wants to go. I'd like to meet you on Saturday if possible.

BTW...What's your goal pace for the race?

IJR

From SlowJoe on Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 11:05:36 from 131.59.200.82

We're driving up (without the kids, woohoo) on Saturday morning, probably going straight to the expo. Leaving after the race on Sunday. I'll email you (send a private message) with my phone number so Burt doesn't get a hold of it.

Pace-wise, my plan is to keep it anywhere in the 7:30s for the first 15 or so, then go by feel which hopefully means speeding up. I never seem to be able to stick to any of my plans though, we'll see....

From Burt on Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 11:31:36 from 72.223.90.79

Joe, I've had your number for a long time. I just haven't called you yet.

From SlowJoe on Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 11:35:58 from 131.59.200.82

Well now I just feel unliked. Thanks, I'll be crying myself to sleep tonight.

From I Just Run on Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 12:07:26 from 67.79.11.242

I had to unfriend Burt yesterday because he was picking on me and my beloved Spurs :(

IJR

From JG on Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 13:04:58 from 98.88.201.182

Sounds like awesome temps for OKC in May, that is awesome ... and the cloud cover is a big plus too! Hopefully the winds will be friendly! Your pace plan sounds great. Historically, I almost never stick to my plan either, and it usually costs me weaker splits at the finish. The one time, I did was last October at St. George, and I got my BQ as a result of running it smart. I really stuck to my plan although I did bank a little time here and there, when I felt strong, but I was never too aggressive. Not sure if banking some time was a good thing or not, as if I would have been more conservative, I may not have needed it. As it turns out, my calves severely cramped at Mile 25 & I ran the last 1.2 miles at a 8:35 pace (was supposed to be 7:36), and crossed the finish with only 10 seconds to spare! That was the most painful mile of my life!! Anyway, believe in your plan and stick to it, especially if you have a tail wind I bet you will finish strong and be pleased with your time ... allowing yourself to get aggressive early on risks breaking down at the end! Run smart, finish strong, and have a blast!

From Kelli on Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 13:09:54 from 71.219.96.115

A little bit of rain is always kind if nice, don't ya think?

Burt is a stalker, be careful. ;o)

From seeaprilrun on Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 21:12:44 from 174.70.177.86

Well, 50 degrees is definitely cooler than Houston, overcast is good, rain is no problem, the wind will be lighter early in the morning, always is, and by the time it picks up it should be your tailwind. There is your weather pep talk. Sounds decent!

From SlowJoe on Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 09:43:29 from 184.79.24.255

IJR - I thought Burt loved the Spurs

JG - appreciate the war story, I hope it keeps me grounded in the early miles.

Kelli - rain I can deal with, just hoping the thunder and lightning stay away

April - thanks, I needed that

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

45F, calm, clear.  May not get another day like this in Abilene for about 6 months.  AP 7:58 - easy miles with 6 or 7 pickups to faster paces for 30-45 sec.  I felt really fresh and springy.

The front may arrive right during the race.  Should be nice temps, low 50s to start but the front will bring a north wind and rain -- hopefully no thunderstorms.  So it looks like I'll probably be running my second marathon in the rain too.  Good news is it'll be 10+ degrees cooler than Houston, bad news is the wind.  Don't think it'll be terribly strong; anyone that runs in this part of the country knows that the north wind is to be respected and the south wind is to be feared.  Sunday will have the north wind.  Looking good!

1140s #3 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Rye on Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 09:51:28 from 75.174.90.222

Think like a cyclist....draft!

From derhammer on Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 10:07:29 from 192.156.110.34

Yeah, other than the wind the conditions look ideal. I would rather have clouds and light rain than the full sun beating down on me for 3 plus hours. Find some big hoss at your pace and run behind him.

From Tracy on Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 10:20:08 from 209.175.177.37

Well, good luck, my man!

From SlowJoe'sGrl on Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 10:34:27 from 184.79.24.255

"Fresh and springy"...wow!

From I Just Run on Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 10:52:50 from 67.79.11.242

My question is..."Are you wearing the orange shirt in this race?"

I think Slow Joe'sGirl may have read something into the "Fresh and springy" comment, you may need to clarify that statement... :)

From SlowJoe on Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 11:45:31 from 131.59.200.82

Rye - not a bad idea at all!

DH - I'm definitely liking the cloud cover

Thanks Tracy

Danielle - I'm talking about my legs.

IJR - oh yes, the orange shirt will be coming to Oklahoma with me.

From SlowJoe'sGrl on Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 11:49:14 from 184.79.24.255

Okay...I didn't have my mind in the gutter. I was just pointing out that Joe has never used those words to describe anything before.

From I Just Run on Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 12:00:19 from 67.79.11.242

SURE......wink...wink...!

From DaleG on Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 12:51:07 from 67.2.30.31

Awesome! I think half of my marathons have been in the rain, two of them in torrential downpours.

From I Just Run on Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 17:24:41 from 67.79.11.242

Dang Slow Joe....I was really trying not to look but with all your talk about the weather I just couldn't help myself. Here's what I found:

http://www.4warn.com/weather/7day/

From SlowJoe'sGrl on Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 17:29:52 from 184.79.24.255

IJR -Don't worry that link is already saved in his favorites along with 10 others. I promise he's already seen it...as well as probably consulted with a meteorologist from the national weather service.

From I Just Run on Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 17:39:06 from 67.79.11.242

Ha...ha...I figured he already knew about this one. I was just trying my best not succomb to the urge. My weak flesh gave in. :(

From derhammer on Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 18:07:33 from 192.156.110.34

But has Slow Joe emailed the local TV station's meteorologists? That is what I did when I was trying to decide whether or not to not run Austin and instead go up to Ft. Worth a week later. They were all very nice, too. So I can say not to be obsessive but I am just as bad. :-)

I think most long distance runners have obsessive tendencies - or else we wouldn't be doing all this running in the first place.

From SlowJoe on Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 18:30:12 from 184.79.24.255

Well like Danielle hinted at, yes, I did talk to a meterologist at the NWS about thunderstorms - I wanted to see if there was any chance we'd be weather cancelled. He said less than 5% chance of lightning cancelling the race. The wind and rain I can deal with...

Whoops, reposting this comment as me

From seeaprilrun on Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 22:04:36 from 174.70.177.86

The orange shirt and the weather saga continue. You will probably wear that shirt for the rest of your running life. I only say that because I have worn the same shirt for all 4 of my marathons. In fact, I believe that is the only shirt I have raced in for several years. I got it at Goodwill for 50 cents and it's not even really a running shirt LOL! Somebody should warn people to be careful about what they wear for their first marathon..

From I Just Run on Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 22:23:58 from 166.205.14.2

Maybe if I go to Goodwill and buy a 50 cent Orange shirt I will be able to run as fast as both Joe and April!

From Rye on Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 09:13:29 from 174.27.65.38

joe & april.... hope you guys wash your shirts separately. I am sending you both some new running attire!

From seeaprilrun on Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 10:43:33 from 174.70.177.86

I don't think I could ever part ways with my aqua green shirt!

From SlowJoe on Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 10:54:08 from 184.79.24.255

I'm glad April understands!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
3.840.003.84

63F, S 22-30 mph.  8:38 AP, probably my last run before OKC.

Weather predictions for the race:

Temperature - beautiful -- starts at 52 or so, and actually decreases throughout the day (52 is the high) due to the front.

Skies - It'll be overcast (good) but rainy (not ideal, but ok).  Like my first marathon I'll just be hoping for no lightning so they will actually have a race.

Wind - Likely 20 mph from the north.  The front is arriving right before the race and bringing some wind.  It'll probably be a good negative split day with a headwind from (roughly) miles 2-11, and a tailwind from 18-26.

I'm definitely going to hit up Wal Mart today for some throw-away clothes I can wear in the corrals.  The orange shirt must be protected until race time.

New Blue Asics Miles: 3.84
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Tracy on Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 11:40:03 from 209.175.177.37

Those weather conditions actually look decent, if only it won't rain! Wind's going to be not so great, but if you get its benefit at the time you need it most, then I guess it isn't all bad!

Good luck!

From derhammer on Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 23:08:23 from 70.113.125.159

Considering what it looked like a week ago this is pretty good.

When are you driving up?

Are you going to share your bib # so we call all track you? :-)

From DaleG on Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 01:15:27 from 152.216.7.5

Good luck...Run fast, and most of all, have fun!!!

From seeaprilrun on Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 10:05:20 from 174.70.177.86

Yes, definitely leave the orange shirt untainted until race time. Strategy: the headwind is a little much, but not overwhelming. It is enough, however, that expending extra effort to overcome it in the first half and stay on pace will likely lead to depletion in the second half when it is time to enjoy the tailwind. The point: you have to stay relaxed in the first half and not fight that wind too much...even if you have to slip some 7:40 pace in there. Open up when you get the tailwind. This is definitely a negative split kind of race! I cannot wait to hear, and yes, we all need a bib # for our tracking pleasure.

From Bonnie on Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 10:23:19 from 64.119.33.134

Good luck Joe! Stay focused and remember to enjoy the experience!

From flatlander on Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 14:52:02 from 76.31.26.153

Good luck, you've got lots of good advice so I won't give you any. (Good thing, since I have none.)

From SlowJoe on Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 15:26:06 from 98.174.161.67

Thanks all, I appreciate the well-wishes and advice.

April - definitely good advice, I think you nailed it. I can definitely waste too much energy trying to hit GP into the wind.

Bib # is 299

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
0.000.000.00

Made it to the hotel, got all the gear, etc, and now just relaxing a bit before dinner.  Danielle and I drove about 3/4 of the course - definitely more hilly than I'm used to, but no huge monsters or anything.  Danielle is getting nervous!  She's doing her first full but is dealing with a tendon issue.

Looking at the weather, we might catch a break and not get rained on too horribly.  There's also a good chance of temps in the upper 40s, maybe even the whole race!  Wind will be there, but it is probably the only enemy out there at this point.  Just gotta suck it up the first half and maybe accept some off-pace miles when the wind gets angry. 

I'll get a report up late Sunday night.  In the meantime my bib # is 299 if any anyone wants to look it up beforehand.

Weight: 0.00
Comments
From seeaprilrun on Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 15:42:16 from 174.70.177.86

40s! Yes! Here comes a PR!

From Rye on Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 16:57:41 from 174.27.65.38

Enjoy! Good luck to both of you! Do you have matching orange shirts?

From Tracy on Sun, May 01, 2011 at 10:30:41 from 173.24.38.54

You're running now, but I'm wishing you well!

From JG on Sun, May 01, 2011 at 13:07:31 from 74.190.130.221

3:15:53! That is awesome Joe!! Glad you hit your goal ... hope you enjoyed the run ... and the weather!! Congratulations!

From Tracy on Sun, May 01, 2011 at 13:45:41 from 173.24.38.54

Wow! Impressive!

From derhammer on Sun, May 01, 2011 at 16:02:05 from 70.113.125.159

Awesome job, Joe!!! Wow, so happy for you.

Race: Oklahoma City Marathon (26.43 Miles) 03:15:51, Place overall: 67, Place in age division: 16
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
0.0026.4326.43

Marathon #2 is in the books, and I escaped with a 10-minute PR!

Weather              49F start, 47F finish, wind NE 15-30.  Driving rain.  The night before the race it looked like the rain might actually stay to the south of us.  That did not happen.  The first bolt of lightning made its appearance as we were driving to the race.  The first rain started about 45 minutes before the race as we were walking to the starting line.  Due to lightning, the race was delayed 30 miserable minutes.  I actually even saw lightning while running on the course several times, but thankfully they never called it.  The rain pretty much did not let up the entire time.  I didn’t mind being wet but puddles were unavoidable and my shoes were waterlogged by mile 2.  The wind coming from the NE meant there would be some headwind legs on the back half of the race.  It was tough wind at times, for sure, but I’ve definitely seen worse in Abilene.

My strategy going into the race was to run in the 7:30s for the first 15 or so; once again I got excited and ditched my plan early but this time it ended up being the right move.  Below are the splits from Garmin, along with commentary.

Miles 1-5             7:23, 7:16, 7:19, 7:12, 7:18.   I lined up pretty close to the front.  I was shivering at the starting line (40 degree wind chill, pouring rain) so I knew it was going to be a good day.  The 7:30 pace was the fastest sign they had – not many elites in this race (no prize $$).  So I crossed the starting line maybe 10 seconds after the gun.  In the early miles, I was getting angry with myself for running faster but it honestly felt easy so I didn’t actually make any adjustments unless I saw it below 7:10 which happened a few times.

Miles 6-10           7:15, 7:24, 7:19, 7:38, 7:35.   Kind of a wide variety of splits but it has to do a lot more with wind and hills; the effort was pretty even.  6, 7 and 8 were through neighborhoods and a lot of the headwind was blocked.  I was breathing really hard after 9 and 10 and thought I might have blown my race already but then reminded myself those were uphill + headwind miles (out in the open and fully exposed to wind).

Miles 11-15        7:26, 7:19, 7:21, 7:24, 7:19.  Mile 11 was the last headwind mile (only half of it) until 17.  During this stretch I really caught my breath after fighting wind and hills.  I got super relaxed and started to realize that it would be a pretty good race.  This stretch was also nice and flat, which is what I’m used to.  High spirits here.

Miles 16-20        7:23, 7:29, 7:24, 7:21, 7:13.   Miles 17-19 had a quartering headwind and a driving rain which was quite annoying hitting my face.  I plodded on pretty well though.  Mile 20 is where I started to lose it in Houston.  Today, it was downhill and starting to turn downwind; I actually saw 6:50-something on the watch about halfway through it before I came back to reality.  Having my second-fastest mile come at #20 was the confidence boost I needed for that last 10K.

Miles 21-26        7:21, 7:36, 7:30, 7:43, 7:25, 7:52, 3:12 (0.43 miles).  Starting at mile 21.5 or so, the course starts climbing – nothing dramatic, just a 100 foot climb or so over 2.5 miles; it’s a good steady uphill.  The other thing that happened at around 21.5 was the course joined with the half-marathoners.  That was kind of weird.  I hadn’t thought about it a great deal beforehand but the people-dodging got to be a little much.  Definitely ran some bonus mileage here.  I could not even really see any marathoners, it seemed like it was just me and the walkers for a few miles.  The good news is there was a tailwind, and my times didn’t suffer too bad although I could tell my legs weren’t quite working the same as before.  Around mile 24, there was a lot more separation between the two races and I saw more marathoners that I could focus on.  I could finally feel myself starting to hit the wall around mile 25 but thankfully the race was just about over.  I fought through mile 26 and was determined to bring it below 8:00, legs or no legs, and I did!  The last half-mile or so was at 7:26 pace (downhill); it felt like a dead sprint.  Final time was about 3:15:51.  The results page is down, so nothing official yet.  I’ll update with placing and official splits later.  Danielle said 67th out of 2,494.  Let's go with that.  The two halves ended up being something like 1:36, 1:39.

Post race             After my race ended the conditions actually got worse somehow.  It actually started hailing for a period.  Poor Danielle.  She made it though, she is now a marathoner.  I am not kidding when I say that the most difficult part of the day was waiting in my drenched clothes and shorts for Danielle and then walking almost a mile to the car in some ridiculous wind (gusts around 40 mph) and rain.  We were both shaking pretty violently from the cold.  Seriously, that was more painful than the 26th mile.

Battle damage is all on my lower right leg - some tendon on the back side of my knee that connects to the top of the calf is the worst.  I also have a tender achilles and maybe a calf strain and some other weird stuff.  Nothing that will keep me out for more than a week, I don’t think.

Next up is a hot summer of base building.  I hope to work my way up to 70 miles a week by September or so.  I don’t think I’ll run another marathon until Houston in January but it’s too early to say for sure.  I hope to be ready for a 3:05 and a BQ at Houston since that is the new time standard (not that I’ll actually get into the race with it).  Thanks for the support FRB’ers, it was a great day!

** update - officially 67/2495 overall, 62/1515 males, and 16/232 in AG.  HM split was 1:36:21 so the 2nd half was 1:39:30.

1150s Miles: 26.43
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Burt on Sun, May 01, 2011 at 22:10:22 from 72.223.90.79

I feel like a jerk being the first to comment seeing how I knew you were practicing to be an amateur meteorologist, and I didn't make enough fun of you. But I'm the first on your favorite blogs list, so I guess that's all right.

Great job! You've come so far so fast. And in the rain! Great job to you and your lovely wife.

From seeaprilrun on Sun, May 01, 2011 at 22:45:13 from 174.70.177.86

Awesome race Joe and those were definitely less-than-favorable conditions! Way to run it the way you knew you could and keep it on an even keel! That's amazing that you were able to stick the pace all the way to mile 25 and then still keep it under 8 and finish it off! My hat's off to you! It's time to start toying with the idea of sub-3 don't ya think?

From Neil on Sun, May 01, 2011 at 23:21:31 from 97.121.2.88

Great race. Very disciplined and focused effort in horrible conditions. Congrats.

From Rye on Mon, May 02, 2011 at 00:27:52 from 174.27.65.38

Wow! I am happy for you. Training has paid off. I have read from frb's that you really don't hit your potential till a few years of consistent training. You apparently have tons of potential. Go get em! Congrats to you and your wife!

From DaleG on Mon, May 02, 2011 at 02:31:08 from 71.35.196.142

Congrats on such a great race!!! You're splits are amazingly consistent. All that hard work paid off and I'm glad the race wasn't canceled due to lightning. I'm sure you'll BQ at the next one, for sure.

From Tracy on Mon, May 02, 2011 at 08:15:27 from 173.24.38.54

Great job Joe! What a great PR! I bet you can't wait till you get to do a marathon in good weather!

From JG on Mon, May 02, 2011 at 09:59:35 from 74.190.54.137

Those are awesome splits Joe, nice job holding steady effort & pushing through the difficult conditions! A huge congratulations to Danielle for completing her first marathon as well!

From Bill Mandler on Mon, May 02, 2011 at 10:51:04 from 174.126.250.101

Very nice job in tough conditions! Rain and wind can take a lot out of you. And a PR on top of that... CONGRATULATIONS!

From I Just Run on Mon, May 02, 2011 at 11:26:32 from 67.79.11.242

Way to go Joe, sorry I missed you at the race. It was pretty tough conditions if you ask me...! You've got to be very pleased with your accomplishment...CONGRADULATIONS...!

From Kelli on Mon, May 02, 2011 at 11:56:18 from 71.219.96.115

OH MY!!! That weather sounds horrendous! But you got a 10 minute PR in horrible conditions and mile 20 was dang fast! That has to show what great shape you are in! NICE JOB!!!!

Recover WELL!

From SlowJoe on Mon, May 02, 2011 at 12:00:29 from 131.59.200.82

Burt - thanks - see, that's why I specifically put you at #1 on my list.

Thanks April - yeah, less than ideal but I would take it any day over what we had in Houston; I think you would've seriously done well here. As far as sub-3, it still feels like it'll be awhile but doesn't seem completely ridiculous anymore.

Thanks Neil, I definitely learned a lot from my last attempt.

Rye - yeah not looking forward to the eventual plateau so hopefully it's a ways away. thanks

DG - BQ is the hope and the plan, we'll see. Thanks!

Thanks Tracy, yeah somewhere out there is a marathon with no rain...I'll find it...

JG - appreciate it, yeah it was an interesting day to say the least

Thanks Bill, it wasn't too horrible while on the course but I wouldn't have wanted to be a spectator.

IJR - yeah bummer we couldn't meet up. Quite the show of nature on your first marathon but way to finish. And thanks!

Kelli - thanks, mile 20 was awesome since that's where I started to fall apart last time.

From ChrisM on Mon, May 02, 2011 at 15:38:39 from 82.26.212.49

well done on the pr- the hard work paid off! nice job

From flatlander on Mon, May 02, 2011 at 17:05:22 from 198.207.244.102

Congratulations, impressive race and impressive PR in the rain and wind, doubt that I could have coped with all of that. I think you ran a disciplined race, doesn't look to me like going out slower would have made much of a difference in that difficult final 10K. Tell Danielle congratulations as well. A two-marathoner family!

From Dave S on Mon, May 02, 2011 at 21:43:18 from 4.254.222.92

great job and congrats on a big PR

From Stacy on Tue, May 03, 2011 at 00:17:48 from 97.114.167.56

Wow, great race in really bad conditions. I was just commenting on my blog about a marathon in Minot ND on Saturday. I thought the conditions there were awful. Sounds like ND's got nothing on OK weather.

Good Job!

From baldnspicy on Tue, May 03, 2011 at 01:46:32 from 72.95.164.253

I'm in awe, Joe. You rocked that race! Tough conditions but you hung in there perfectly! Must have been all that sand running over seas! Congrats to your wonderful wife on her finish. That's an incredible accomplishment for both of you. You should be incredibly pleased with your performances.

All my best to recovering quickly from the race so you can get back out there on the road!

From SlowJoe on Tue, May 03, 2011 at 11:42:57 from 131.59.200.80

Thanks Chris

Flat - thanks, once we got going it wasn't so bad. I agree I was probably on the right pace from the beginning (for once).

Thanks Dave

Stacy - thanks, but I think I would be a lot more scared to sign up for a marathon in Minot than OK!

Thanks BnS and a speedy recovery to you as well.

From Kam on Sat, May 07, 2011 at 22:21:20 from 174.23.120.174

You are going to have to change your handle from slowjoe to something more representative of your SPEED! Great race.

From Mike on Tue, May 31, 2011 at 21:09:34 from 144.183.224.2

Dang! Nice work, bro!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
0.000.000.00

Legs are still pretty trashed 2 days later.  They are feeling worse than they did after my first marathon in Houston, probably due to the hills and the additional miles I was able to maintain pace.  I'm guessing no run tomorrow, but maybe Thursday.

Some more random race stuff since it's still on my brain...

  • My first 10k (44:52) and half (1:36:21) were both technically PR's.
  • I was top 3% overall, top 4% of men, and top 7% of AG
  • In the last 10K, I passed 12 people and was passed by 4

I also looked more at the splits vs. elevation and wind and am convinced I ran a really even-paced race until the very end, so I don't think I could have done any better, strategically.

And finally, a couple of pictures.  I'm really not as miserable as I look, that's just my running face apparently.  Ok, maybe a little worse than usual, it was a marathon.

Somewhere between miles 21 and 24, going around the wall of half-marathoners.

 

not sure exactly where this was

Weight: 0.00
Comments
From flatlander on Tue, May 03, 2011 at 13:01:18 from 198.207.244.102

What, you weren't paying attention to your surroundings? After I finished Richmond my sister said wasn't that a beautiful lake? I had no idea what she was talking about. Thanks for the pictures.

From SlowJoe'sGrl on Tue, May 03, 2011 at 13:13:47 from 184.79.24.255

For once, you have better race pictures than me...even with that facial expression, mine is still worse.

From I Just Run on Tue, May 03, 2011 at 16:45:43 from 67.79.11.242

I went to possibly buy a picture or two of me in the race, but after looking at them decided not to... I'm sure I actually looked that tired and old but I don't want to remember it that way :) Someone asked me what I thought about the race and all I could really remember is that the pavement looked the same throughout the whole race!

IJR

From SlowJoe on Wed, May 04, 2011 at 11:21:05 from 131.59.200.82

Flat - definitely, same thing happens to me

Danielle - is it bad if I agree with you?

IJR - yeah I think we all look miserable trying to squint in the rain, and the photographers seem to have taken a fraction of the shots you'd normally see. Can't say I blame them.

From Burt on Wed, May 04, 2011 at 16:45:00 from 206.19.214.144

I like how you're blasting right past the half marathoners. Sure, some of them are walking, but still.

From SlowJoe'sGrl on Wed, May 04, 2011 at 17:04:32 from 184.79.24.255

Yes, Joe, it's bad if you agree with me. I just look sad and cold. You should feel sorry for me that I couldn't run fast enough to beat the hail.

From SlowJoe'sGrl on Wed, May 04, 2011 at 17:05:03 from 184.79.24.255

What? I don't like your new blog name.

From I Just Run on Wed, May 04, 2011 at 17:45:14 from 67.79.11.242

Still think it should be "Turbo Joe" ... I was right all the time...!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
3.000.003.00

3 @ 8:48 avg.  I'd say recovery is lagging about a day behind my first marathon.  Legs still had a lot of marathon stink on them.  Nice to be running again though.

New Blue Asics Miles: 3.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Tracy on Thu, May 05, 2011 at 10:21:40 from 209.175.177.37

Get that marathon stink off them. Now what's next?

From flatlander on Thu, May 05, 2011 at 10:47:09 from 76.31.26.153

I always try to come back too fast, but everybody's recovery patterns are different.

From I Just Run on Thu, May 05, 2011 at 10:59:49 from 67.79.11.242

I just decided to stay off my legs completly until at least Sat. or Sun. Gotta get the darn knee completly healed. I'm thinking like Tracy, "what's next". I'm a little lost in my training...well maybe not since I just make it up as I go :-)

From DaleG on Thu, May 05, 2011 at 14:57:35 from 67.2.4.75

Glad to see you're out running already. Yes, what is your next race? I always need to have a race lined up to keep me motivated. If not, I don't work out nearly enough.

From SlowJoe on Thu, May 05, 2011 at 15:27:45 from 131.59.200.82

Tracy - There are a couple of 5Ks I might do this summer, plus a "summer solstice" run in mid-June (do as many 1-mile laps as you can in 3 hours), and a local 10K in September.

Flat - yeah, not sure exactly how much soreness to just deal with and run on, I just knew it was too much yesterday.

IJR - probably a smart idea. I don't really know what I'm doing either, I just know running more seems to make you faster.

Dale - I might try to enter a local 5K in 1-1/2 weeks. I'm gonna be slow, but I'm like you and need some races to look forward to...even if they are small.

From derhammer on Fri, May 06, 2011 at 10:23:33 from 70.113.125.159

Yeah, I knew you wouldn't last a week. LOL.

From SlowJoe on Fri, May 06, 2011 at 10:37:31 from 131.59.200.82

who could?!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.000.005.00

54F today...right now I don't see anymore 50s on the 10-day forecast; hopfully that wasn't the last.  I ran 5 at an 8:27 avg.  Dead legs, but not really sore anymore.

1140s #3 Miles: 5.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Fri, May 06, 2011 at 10:51:45 from 67.79.11.242

Oh how I long to run...! Especially in the cool weather.

From Tracy on Fri, May 06, 2011 at 13:17:20 from 209.175.177.37

I bet the pace doesn't feel great, but your legs probably need it! Great job getting out there.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
7.000.007.00

69F, SSW 16-26 mph.  The high is 100 today, thank God for mornings.  8:14 AP on legs that finally didn't feel completely dead.

1150s Miles: 7.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From seeaprilrun on Sat, May 07, 2011 at 14:22:27 from 174.70.177.86

Looking good after your AWESOME marathon. Our marathon PR's are 15 seconds apart!!! At the rate you are improving I see sub-3 in your near future. You're a dude, you're skinny, and you're hooked on running=going to get fast quickly.

From SlowJoe on Sat, May 07, 2011 at 23:43:43 from 184.79.24.255

Thanks April, I am trying to use that Y-chromosome to my advantage. I guess if I can stay injury-free, you never know..

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
9.000.009.00

74F, S 10-15 mph, sunny.  hot.  8:17 AP.  If there is some kind of conditioning process your body goes through for running in the heat, I have not gone through it yet this year...that was kind of brutal.

1140s #3 Miles: 9.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From JG on Sun, May 08, 2011 at 10:22:02 from 98.66.249.229

Good job ramping your mileage back up after your recovery. I don't think I ever acclimate to the heat, at least my pace doesn't! Only good thing is if you run through it, it seems you magically become faster when the cooler fall conditions arrive!

From Bonnie on Sun, May 08, 2011 at 12:39:39 from 64.119.33.134

For me, it takes about 2 weeks of suffering -- oh and then I still suffer, but it is tolerable. You do have to slow down, but I promise you will be speeding up like crazy when cools off in the fall ;-).

From SlowJoe on Mon, May 09, 2011 at 10:24:13 from 131.59.200.82

JG - I imagine we have similar climates, hopefully summer fizzles early this year since it seems to be arriving early.

Bonnie - geez, I felt like a total wimp when I saw your Sunday run/temps, especially your fast finish. You are tough! Last year was my only experience with running in the heat but I do remember feeling like superman when it finally cooled off.

From I Just Run on Mon, May 09, 2011 at 10:51:10 from 67.79.11.242

I know what you mean about the heat. I think it's about the same here except more humidity....and even more down where Flat lives. If I could just recycle the sweat off my body I might be fine.

From Bonnie on Mon, May 09, 2011 at 10:55:31 from 150.135.114.78

SJ -- I hate heat, especially for running, but our bodies are incredible in their ability to adapt (although now when it gets below 70F I am "freezing" ;-)). I really do slow down by about 10-15 secs/mile during the summer ... but like JG says, by Fall you magically speed right back up! Happy running!

From flatlander on Mon, May 09, 2011 at 11:10:12 from 76.31.26.153

Joe, ditto everybody else on the heat. But you are the champion after running through the Iraqi summer last year.

From Rye on Mon, May 09, 2011 at 14:04:38 from 168.103.139.178

Heat for us right now looks like about 55 degrees. Good luck with your conditions....they appear to be extreme.

From SlowJoe on Mon, May 09, 2011 at 17:42:04 from 131.59.200.82

IJR - yeah the dry air is the saving grace up here

Bonnie - thanks, you too, and be careful running in that AZ heat.

Flat - you know, I was just looking at last year's entries and when the lows finally dropped below 80 (in October) it was pure heaven. Now the 70s feel like death!

Rye - you deserve the nice weather after your winter. Hope you can get out soon and run a little.

From seeaprilrun on Mon, May 09, 2011 at 21:06:22 from 174.70.177.86

As you know, I share your preferene for cold weather running and DIE in the heat. I better get used to it though because this year is already looking to be brutal.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.000.008.00

72F, S 17-27 mph.  8:16 AP.  About the same pace as Sunday but it felt really easy today since I got an earlier start and was never really in direct sun.

In other running-related news, I am signed up for Houston in January next year.  They opened some early registration spots (available to sub 4-hr marathoners) so Danielle grabbed one for me and now I guess we wait for them to verify the time.  Feels good, a lot better than going through the lotto!  Now I can plan out the Fall season a little better, race-wise.

1140s #3 Miles: 8.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From flatlander on Tue, May 10, 2011 at 14:43:47 from 198.207.244.102

Congratulations! I hadn't heard about that option but it makes a lot of sense.

From Tracy on Tue, May 10, 2011 at 14:53:38 from 209.175.177.37

That's pretty cool!

Sounds like it's heating up there! Don't you wish the wind would die down?

From SlowJoe on Tue, May 10, 2011 at 15:04:05 from 131.59.200.80

Thanks Flat, doesn't seem like they advertise it too much, except by email.

Tracy - yeah, it was a bit annoying today but I would much rather have some wind than no wind when it gets hot

From Burt on Tue, May 10, 2011 at 18:39:28 from 206.19.214.144

Sweet! Let's set a goal for you to break 3:05 in Houston 2012.

From baldnspicy on Tue, May 10, 2011 at 18:44:26 from 72.95.164.253

Congrats! Feels good to have elite status, yes? :-)

From derhammer on Wed, May 11, 2011 at 10:34:43 from 192.156.110.40

Joe, plenty of time to squeeze another marathon in before Houston, right? :-)

From I Just Run on Wed, May 11, 2011 at 10:41:24 from 67.79.11.242

I'm thinking you'll be signing up for with the sub 3-Hr runners soon...!

From SlowJoe on Wed, May 11, 2011 at 14:23:28 from 131.59.200.80

Burt - great idea.

BnS - Yes, yes, I am very elite indeed. Actually I did feel a little special, even if the standard is almost an hour slower than Boston.

DH - I think it would be great, but I would want to do it early in the fall and don't really want to travel to a race with cooler weather. So Houston might end up being the next.

IJR - in my dreams!

From Burt on Wed, May 11, 2011 at 14:37:49 from 206.19.214.144

I came up with it on my own.

From DaleG on Wed, May 11, 2011 at 14:47:41 from 152.216.7.5

That's cool!!! It pays to be a fast Joe

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.060.006.06

71F, cloudy, S 14 mph.  8:10 AP.  I had to be at work unreasonable early today, so I got in this run at lunch.  Fortunately it's a cool day today.

I also forgot my Garmin (left it at home) so I mapped it after the fact and I got pretty darn close to my planned 6, although I had an idea of how far to go beforehand since I've run this route before.  I always see people talk about how liberating it is to run without the Garmin, but I hate it.  Hate it.

New Blue Asics Miles: 6.06
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Rye on Wed, May 11, 2011 at 15:25:14 from 168.103.139.178

Amen! Gadgets are great! Great weather??? Enjoy.

From seeaprilrun on Wed, May 11, 2011 at 18:00:12 from 174.70.177.86

Haha I find it liberating but I like to know how far I went. It's the "how fast" that I don't always need to know. Of course, it always sucks to have the awesome garminless run where you are flying and you will never know those splits. Never!

From SlowJoe on Wed, May 11, 2011 at 18:39:24 from 184.79.24.255

Rye - exactly, a lot of people put a lot of thought and work into the GPS constellation, why waste it?

April - I knew I wasn't flying (can't seem to get my pace going after my race yet) but I would hate that! I need to know!

From flatlander on Wed, May 11, 2011 at 22:59:26 from 76.31.26.153

Thanks for the meteoroligical heads up. Peeked ahead and sure enough we have some 60s and 50s coming in. I'm going to save myself.

From SlowJoe on Thu, May 12, 2011 at 10:34:16 from 131.59.200.80

Flat - same here, gonna be a nice weekend

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
9.001.0010.00

64F, low wind, maybe 8-10 mph.  7:55 AP.  I'm doing a 5K on Saturday, so I ran easy with 6 x 1-minute at 5K pace spinkled in randomly.  As hard as those 1-minute intervals felt, I'm not real optimistic of a PR on Saturday.  I've just felt really sluggish and slow-pokey since the marathon.  Maybe the 5K will wake me up a little.

1150s Miles: 10.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Thu, May 12, 2011 at 10:47:23 from 67.79.11.242

I'm going to predict a PR...Based on everything else you've accomplished in a short time I wouldn't dare bet against you...! I bet those "turbo" legs come through for you!

From derhammer on Thu, May 12, 2011 at 10:51:21 from 192.156.110.34

I would not worry about feeling sluggish - when the horn goes off your legs will know what to do!

From Tracy on Thu, May 12, 2011 at 12:44:32 from 209.175.177.37

I think a pr is due as well. You're much faster this year than you were last year, and though you're still in recovery mode, I bet you will rock it.

From JG on Thu, May 12, 2011 at 13:14:08 from 74.176.226.196

Nice miles this week ... nothing like a 5k to wake your legs up ... if you want to PR you will ... just run faster than your last one! lol

From I Just Run on Thu, May 12, 2011 at 13:19:48 from 67.79.11.242

I like your philosophy JG, I think I'll try that in my next race!

From SlowJoe on Fri, May 13, 2011 at 12:27:26 from 131.59.200.82

IJR - thanks, I guess you never know..

DH - my legs are in love with 8:15 pace so I hope they can two-time it

Thanks Tracy, hopefully the competitive juices will make up for other defecits

JG - oh, is that what I need to do, run faster? running is so confusing!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.000.005.00

58F, low north wind.  5 @ 8:16 AP.  Just a short run in the hopes that I can eke out a decent time in the 5K tomorrow morning.  The weather should be nice, not windy like my PR a couple months ago.  I wish I was feeling faster though; my PR was 6:17/mile (per Garmin) which felt like an all-out sprint yesterday.  We'll see, who knows....

I'm dealing with a bit of metatarsalgia right now which is a bit of pain on the ball of my left foot, near the base of the middle toe.  It's not a show stopper at this point but it's making me re-think wearing flats for the race, which would probably take PR out of the picture.  Smart money says I'll wear the flats anyway.

1150s Miles: 5.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Fri, May 13, 2011 at 10:49:49 from 67.79.11.242

I say just take 5 ibuprofen and just run....! That's the advice my knee doctor gave me! It worked for 21.5 miles and then I think the ibuprofen wore off :( Seems the weather will be perfect if it's like here!

From I Just Run on Fri, May 13, 2011 at 10:50:23 from 67.79.11.242

Oh...BTW...Are you wearing the orange shirt?

From Burt on Fri, May 13, 2011 at 10:51:22 from 72.223.90.79

Good luck!

From JG on Fri, May 13, 2011 at 12:02:03 from 74.176.17.148

My race pace always feels like an all-out sprint in training ... something about the power of 'race' day! That is a bummer about your foot, hope it goes away before it gets worse! Just triple the length of your stride, & you will have 1/3 as many foot strikes! :) Good Luck!!

IJR - Maybe you should have taken 5 more at the 18 mile mark!

From I Just Run on Fri, May 13, 2011 at 12:13:21 from 67.79.11.242

JG,

Next time that's what I'm going to do...!

From DaleG on Fri, May 13, 2011 at 12:20:09 from 174.52.230.9

I'm dealing with that same pain and it a real...pain. This morning, I was walking around barefoot and I stepped on a tiny little plastic toy key that goes to one of my daughter's toys and that sore spot on my foot was right where I stepped onto it. Oh MAN that hurt. It made me drop to the floor, literally!!! Still hurts.

Good luck at the 5k tomorrow

From SlowJoe on Fri, May 13, 2011 at 12:55:18 from 131.59.200.82

IJR - yep, ibuprofen and orange shirt...check

Thanks Burt, good luck on your race too.

JG - sounds like a recipe for success -- you really have all the tricks, don't you?

DG - ouch! I know that must've hurt. I stuck an O-shaped callous pad a bit behind where it actually hurts (basically put it in the middle of the ball of my foot) to take some pressure off the metatarsal head. Seems to actually help a little so far, but I'll let you know how it went when I run on Saturday.

From I Just Run on Fri, May 13, 2011 at 13:11:40 from 67.79.11.242

Now I know you're going to PR...! BTW...Can I borrow that orange shirt for my next race?

IJR

Race: Local 5K - SPCA (3.1 Miles) 00:19:23, Place overall: 1, Place in age division: 1
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
3.233.056.28

52F, north wind 10-15.  Close to perfect running weather, just a little breezy.

Well, I won my first race.  It was an ok turnout, a bit over 100 people maybe.  Looking around at the starting line I didn't see any of the usual suspects that win these local events so I made sure to listen to the directions just in case.  Fortunately they did a great job of marking the course and had people out there directing.  They definitely needed that, as they had to cram 5000 meters of race into a pretty small area around the zoo.

I started out in 1st right away and just built a lead, maybe won by a minute or two.  Abilene isn't exactly a runner town, obviously, if I can win.  Also, I think maybe a fourth of the participants were running with dogs.  It really all just depends on who decides to show up to these things and no one did today.  It kinda sucked the last mile, because I could've used someone to push me a bit.  Don't get me wrong, I was winded but there was probably some coasting.  My last .05 miles was the same pace as the rest of the race.

I'm a little conflicted as to whether I call it a PR.  My splits on Garmin were 6:20, 6:20, 6:27, 0:17 for 3.05 miles, so it measured short.  My AP was 6:22 today per Garmin but 6:17 per Garmin on my PR in March.  However, the course had a ton of tight curves and hairpin turns that could've easily caused the Garmin to shortchange the distance, and the runner's club (that puts on the races) usually gets it right.  Here's what I'm talking about...

I'll stick with my old 19:41 as a PR as I just don't feel like Garmin would've been that far off, even with all the crazy turns.  The cool part about it all was winning anyway - I got a $25 gift card to Academy, a free 1-hour massage and a mug.  Fun morning, and I think it woke up my legs, finally.

Saucony A4 Miles: 6.28
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From seeaprilrun on Sat, May 14, 2011 at 12:54:56 from 174.70.177.86

Awesome job Joe you will be breaking 19 soon! I would count it!

From Rob Murphy on Sat, May 14, 2011 at 13:08:10 from 24.10.248.6

Congratulations! Winning is always fun no matter what.

From derhammer on Sat, May 14, 2011 at 13:56:59 from 70.113.125.159

Sweet! Congrats!!

From JG on Sat, May 14, 2011 at 14:22:07 from 74.190.130.218

Sweet! Nice job taking home some pretty good winners loot for a small race! Re distance, one really never knows, however I will tell you that on my 5k PR which had a lot of tree cover & a 180 turnaround, my watch Garmin recorded 3.01 ... I was a little conflicted too, until I talked to the race director and he told me the course distance was certified & it was laid out per certification. Two weeks later on another certified course, my Garmin read 3.09, and while my time was 23 seconds slower than my PR, I bonked at the 2 mile mark and took Mile 3 easy with a 6:48 split ... in other words, I did not run near as good as a race as it was much hillier, but I was only 23 seconds off my PR when I wasn't even at race effort for all of Mile 3. I can also tell you that on my 800's at the track the other day, my Garmin was recording a 5:38 pace, and I can pretty much guarantee you I was not running that fast! I ran them right on the inside of lane 1 & my 800 times were 2:57, which is more like a 6:00 pace. I find my Garmin to be pretty darn accurate in most instances, but in the end it is only a good guess, especially with a lot of tight turns involved. It really makes you sweat when you are relying on it for pace in a marathon, as I was dead on my avg pace at St. George & only qualified by 11 seconds ... my Garmin read 26.28 ... if it would have measured 100 meters shorter I would have missed my BQ as I was giving it everything I had. I attribute that more to luck than dead on Garmin accuracy!

Regardless, awesome race, you will go sub 19 in the fall!!

From Burt on Sat, May 14, 2011 at 15:06:17 from 72.223.90.79

"Well, I won my first race." Look how humble you are. But I bet on the inside you are all excited. That's awesome! Great job.

From DaleG on Sat, May 14, 2011 at 17:44:00 from 174.52.234.154

Right on man!!! 1st place overall is fantastic. Congratulations!!! Those are some cool prizes and well earned.

From I Just Run on Sat, May 14, 2011 at 21:54:39 from 71.41.149.142

Way to go Turbo-Joe...I knew you would do it! I think you should count it, besides you'll break that PR very soon!

From SlowJoe on Sat, May 14, 2011 at 23:21:32 from 184.79.24.255

Thanks April/Rob/DH

JG - you have me pretty much convinced. I also zoomed in on some of the curves and hairpins and it's obvious Garmin measured a shorter distance than I ran, but who knows by how much. But you're right, I hope to make it a moot point this fall.

Burt - thanks, it does feel good even if the fast guys weren't there

Dale & IJR - thanks guys!

From flatlander on Sun, May 15, 2011 at 16:57:30 from 76.31.26.153

Huge congratulations, that is fantastic. I think it will happen a lot more often soon, you are getting faster by the month.

From Tracy on Sun, May 15, 2011 at 21:31:04 from 173.24.38.54

Awesome job! Impressive first win. Don't shortchange yourself! A win's a win. And it's nice to take something home besides a medal!

From SlowJoe on Mon, May 16, 2011 at 11:07:21 from 131.59.200.82

Thanks Flat & Tracy - I almost left before the awards ceremony because the kids were whining, so I'm glad I stuck around.

From Tracy on Mon, May 16, 2011 at 11:11:59 from 209.175.177.37

How could they whine? Didn't they see their daddy win?

From SlowJoe on Mon, May 16, 2011 at 11:17:31 from 131.59.200.82

That joy lasted about 10 seconds. Actually, they were pretty good considering we were just sitting around mostly.

From Neil on Mon, May 16, 2011 at 16:31:31 from 207.170.240.150

Huge congrats on the win! BTW, Garmin isn't infallible. Just ask Sasha. :)

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
9.005.0014.00

54F, low wind.  The clouds were even blocking the sun today, perfect...

7:29 AP.  My calves were a little tight from racing in the flats, but I wasn't going to waste one of the last nice days we'll have, so I picked up the pace early today.  Splits were 8:02, 7:39, 7:46, 7:40, 7:36, 7:35, 7:28, 7:32, 7:21, 7:15, 7:16, 7:12, 7:16, 7:06.

1150s Miles: 14.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From seeaprilrun on Sun, May 15, 2011 at 10:46:56 from 174.70.177.86

Perfect day for a run!

From JG on Sun, May 15, 2011 at 17:22:34 from 74.190.130.218

Nice run Joe, strong finish!

From Tracy on Sun, May 15, 2011 at 21:34:11 from 173.24.38.54

Jealous of the weather! Nice miles and pace a day after a race!

From I Just Run on Mon, May 16, 2011 at 15:51:53 from 67.79.11.242

Joe,

You seem amazingly stronger in your runs than when I first met you just a few months ago! Keep up the good work you continue to inspire me.

IJR

From Burt on Mon, May 16, 2011 at 18:23:33 from 206.19.214.144

I guess anything over a 7:20 is a slow mile?

From SlowJoe on Mon, May 16, 2011 at 21:22:38 from 184.79.24.255

April - yep I will be treasuring it until October

Thanks JG & Tracy

IJR - thanks, not sure how I did a marathon at that pace, I was pretty tired after this run.

Burt - yeah that is the arbitrary threshold right now. It's loosely based on something I saw Sasha post once about goal marathon pace for the fast/slow designation, but actually anything in the 7's still feels fast to me. I wish I just had the simple "total distance" profile.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.004.0012.00

58F, SE 15-25 mph.  Last morning of our little cold snap, back to warm temps tomorrow.

AP 7:37 for this run.  For the workout I did 8 easy, followed by 4 fast miles.  Averaged about 8:01/mile for the first 8, then 6:51/mile for the last 4 (6:50, 6:51, 6:56, 6:47).  It was harder than I thought it should've been, but I didn't really set myself up for success as I left myself a quartering headwind for the last 2.5 or so (the wind direction on the computer led me to believe it would be crosswind).  I could tell it wasn't a direct crosswind because every time it died down for a second I felt like I got a kick in the pants and a burst of speed.  Anyway, my hope is that I will be able to repeat this run in August when it's 75 degrees; then I'll know I've improved over the summer.

1150s Miles: 12.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From derhammer on Tue, May 17, 2011 at 10:38:54 from 192.156.110.39

Nice run - maybe you should make a sail to take advatage of that wind you always have.

From I Just Run on Tue, May 17, 2011 at 10:59:32 from 67.79.11.242

Sorry about the wind, it was great down here. I bet by August you'll be better than that!

From Tracy on Tue, May 17, 2011 at 11:23:01 from 209.175.177.37

Great pace at the end of the run. I'm impressed that you can pull that off at the end of a number of strong consistent miles!

From flatlander on Tue, May 17, 2011 at 11:31:17 from 76.31.26.153

That is exactly the way to look at it, I think. Try to improve a little bit over the summer, or at least stay even, then pour it on when the cooler temps arrive.

From DaleG on Tue, May 17, 2011 at 13:23:01 from 174.52.230.9

I think you've improved a lot ever since I first read your blog.

From seeaprilrun on Tue, May 17, 2011 at 19:53:32 from 174.70.177.86

You have improved incredibly since starting! I'm jealous! Your workouts are impressive and your races are showing results!

From SlowJoe on Wed, May 18, 2011 at 10:12:18 from 131.59.200.80

DH - I'd have to figure out a way to stow it on the headwind legs or I'd never get home.

IJR - guess it's all a trade-off, we are a few degrees cooler and not as humid

Tracy - thanks, it definitely adds a little difficulty starting a tempo at mile 9.

Flat - good, we're on the same page

Thanks Dale, keeping the severe injuries away (pure luck) has been the key for me

Thanks April, so have you! Glad your bump in the road is behind you now.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

69F, S 16-24 mph.  8:40 AP.

Well, I think I decided that 242 more days is a really long time to wait until my next marathon.  I might still end up waiting anyway, but I am looking for one in September or early October, preferably within 1-day driving distance, that isn't too hot.  There's one in Tyler, TX on October 9th (close to Danielle's hometown) but that one will be hot and hilly.  I'm probably asking the impossible, but if anyone has any ideas let me know.

1140s #3 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Tracy on Wed, May 18, 2011 at 10:13:02 from 209.175.177.37

Hopefully you find a good marathon to do, but maybe if you don't you can concentrate on the 10K to 1/2 marathon distance until you go for another PR in the marathon. Those distances don't seem so terrible in the heat.

From derhammer on Wed, May 18, 2011 at 10:42:18 from 192.156.110.40

I don't blame you - I need a goal to keep me going.

Marathonguide.com is the only place I know where to look and I am sure you have been combing through it. It depends on what a "day" of driving means to you as well.

From flatlander on Wed, May 18, 2011 at 12:32:16 from 198.207.244.102

Must be something in New Mexico or Colorado, but there will probably be altitude. To get away from altitude you probably have to go straight north quite a ways.

From JG on Wed, May 18, 2011 at 12:32:30 from 98.66.253.108

Hmmm ... Sept marathon within driving distance of TX that is not too hot ... I will get back to you after the arrival of the next ice age! lol

October 23rd may be later than what you are looking for, but you might consider Albuquerque, they say it is flat and fast:

http://www.dukecitymarathon.com/marathon.html

If that does not work for you, Tracy makes a good suggestion too!

From Rye on Wed, May 18, 2011 at 16:37:44 from 71.209.62.116

Two days of driving will open up many chances for you. Head up north to Gods country and the opportunities are endless! One day of driving.....hummm gotta agree with JG...

From seeaprilrun on Wed, May 18, 2011 at 22:14:09 from 174.70.177.86

Well, the Praire Fire Marathon in Wichita...I hear there will be less corners this year...it's flat...you will have a free place to stay.

From SlowJoe on Thu, May 19, 2011 at 10:49:39 from 131.59.200.82

Thanks Tracy, focusing on the half this fall is definitely a good option.

DH - yeah I've been doing some research, for sure.

Flat - fortunately we're already at around 1800' here in Abilene so I have a small head start elevation-wise. I don't remember elevation being an issue when I ran in Wyoming last year (4500' I think) but I also wasn't trying to do a full marathon. Good point.

JG - thanks for the tip, looks like a good race - it's on the list of maybes.

Rye - yeah, I know... I'm still not at a point where I can justify spending too much on a marathon yet when there are options that are closer.

April - thanks, good call! It's on the list.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
11.000.0011.00

73F, S 19-28 mph.  8:29 AP.  I did not enjoy that.  Last mile was almost 9:00...is it October yet?

Ok, on to my fall marathon.  Totally nerded out and created this yesterday:

Those are the top 6, thanks for the help on some of those ideas.  I've got a while to decide but there is no clear-cut favorite here.  I think Odessa and Frankenthon are probably at the bottom of the list but the other 4 all have appeal for various reasons.  Hmmmmmm....

1150s Miles: 11.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Tracy on Thu, May 19, 2011 at 11:53:24 from 209.175.177.37

You are a nerd. I can't help you with your decision, but I can tell you not to stress about your average pace on an easy run. It's hot. It's still windy. You're gonna be slower.

But you're still an awesome runner.

From derhammer on Thu, May 19, 2011 at 12:12:02 from 192.156.110.40

Frankenthon is not hilly - it is a 3 loop course and really pretty flat from what I have read. You can't really judge from the elevation map - most of that is only 100ft of change over x # of miles. You can stay at my house and I will pace you from mile 13. Chances of warm weather are good though. San Antonio is November 13th. Never know about the weather at that one, either.

From seeaprilrun on Thu, May 19, 2011 at 19:08:07 from 174.70.177.86

Oh my gosh lol! This is hilarious!

From JG on Fri, May 20, 2011 at 09:39:07 from 74.190.50.51

Those are all imp't things to consider ... at the end of the day, I would pick the one that gives you the best chance at a good time, otherwise save yourself for Houston & just do shorter races as preparation. Nice 11 miler!

From SlowJoe'sGrl on Fri, May 20, 2011 at 10:10:08 from 184.79.24.255

I say go for Tyler and do hill training in advance. Don't worry about your time...it's just training for Houston. The heat won't be that bad...I know the course is shaded a lot, and you'll be used to running in those temps by then. Plus, you'll already be there with me, and wish you had just run it.

From Tracy on Fri, May 20, 2011 at 10:12:37 from 209.175.177.37

You neglected to put on the "pros" for Tyler that your wife would be running it.

From flatlander on Fri, May 20, 2011 at 10:56:53 from 76.31.26.153

Run 'em all

From SlowJoe on Fri, May 20, 2011 at 11:59:16 from 131.59.200.80

Tracy - yeah anytime the temps are in the 70s it's my own personal death zone - I've mostly accepted it...

DH - thanks for the awesome offer! My grandparents used to live in the Cedar Park/Leander area -- seemed hilly but I haven't looked at the route in much detail.

April - I'm glad you didn't see my Oklahoma City weather spreadsheet.

JG - I think the NM and KS ones seem fastest, but Abilene will be pretty fast too, I just don't like how close it is to Houston -- a marathon takes me out for a couple weeks.

Danielle - doing it as a training run isn't a bad idea...then if by some miracle it's cold that day, I could race it. you're right that my focus will really be Houston anyway.

Tracy - that's because it's all about me.

Flat - don't tempt me

From JG on Fri, May 20, 2011 at 12:29:29 from 74.190.122.82

The best advice is usually that offered by your wife ... all other options in your spreadsheet should be noted with an asterisk! * Proceed with Caution!

Seriously, if Houston is your main focus, don't race in October, although a 26 mile training run would be good!

As far as your training pace the next 4 months, I wouldn't worry about it too much! Last July, Aug, Sept, I ran faster than an 8:00 pace a grand total of 6 times (short distances), then ran St. George at 7:38 pace ... pace only matters on race day & heat, humidity & hills play havoc on pace ... but not effort!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

Thunderstorms this morning, so I did a quick 3 on the TM on base in the morning.  Maybe more later.  Maybe not.

PM - I got off work nice and early, so I decided to do the other 3 in the neighborhood.  Temp was in the mid 80-s and I ran at a near-suicidal 8:25 AP.

1140s #3 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From seeaprilrun on Fri, May 20, 2011 at 18:54:28 from 174.70.177.86

I guess Badwater probably wouldn't be your thing.

From Burt on Fri, May 20, 2011 at 19:31:33 from 206.19.214.144

Sorry about the PTSD.

From SlowJoe on Fri, May 20, 2011 at 20:24:20 from 184.79.24.255

April - I was just thinking about that toward the end of my 11-miler on Thursday. That would not be the race for me!

Burt - did I say suicidal? I meant homicidal.

From Burt on Fri, May 20, 2011 at 20:25:38 from 206.19.214.144

Run away!

From flatlander on Sun, May 22, 2011 at 11:19:07 from 76.31.26.153

How much rain did you get? Nothing much down this way yet, even though it has been cloudy all week.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
0.000.000.00

No running this weekend, we caught the kids' stomach virus.  It was....ugly.  Feeling better now on Sunday afternoon so I will probably go for a few tomorrow.

Weight: 0.00
Comments
From JG on Sun, May 22, 2011 at 18:15:39 from 74.176.224.60

Ugh ... glad it has run it's course ... your legs probably enjoyed the couple day rest!

From Tracy on Sun, May 22, 2011 at 20:28:14 from 173.24.38.54

Ew. Sounds like it was a fun weekend.

From DaleG on Mon, May 23, 2011 at 01:35:51 from 174.52.230.9

Glad you're starting to feel better.

From SlowJoe on Mon, May 23, 2011 at 09:37:19 from 184.79.24.255

JG - you're right, my legs are completely fresh - it's kinda nice.

Tracy - "ew" is putting it mildly

Thanks Dale

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.060.006.06

74F, SSE 17 mph.  Made it through the run ok, just had a bunch of nasty stomach acid burps the first few miles.  Hamburger-flavored stomach acid...mmmmm.  8:45 AP.

1150s Miles: 6.06
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Tracy on Mon, May 23, 2011 at 09:36:13 from 209.175.177.37

Ew. Sounds like it was a tasty run.

From I Just Run on Mon, May 23, 2011 at 10:54:19 from 67.79.11.242

Your post made me gag.... ;(

I hate the stomach bug...!

From derhammer on Mon, May 23, 2011 at 11:37:08 from 192.156.110.34

That's your secret! Hamburgers for breakfast!

From JG on Mon, May 23, 2011 at 11:51:22 from 98.66.188.113

Never taste as good the second time around!

From Burt on Mon, May 23, 2011 at 15:17:03 from 206.19.214.144

I know that flavor.

From Burt on Mon, May 23, 2011 at 21:36:31 from 72.223.90.79

I have a feeling Joe can taste some of his farts.

From flatlander on Mon, May 23, 2011 at 21:44:54 from 207.88.181.2

I see I arrived late to this party. Nice run Joe.

From SlowJoe on Tue, May 24, 2011 at 10:12:41 from 184.79.24.255

Thanks for the all the funny comments. Sounds like you all know where I'm coming from here!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
12.000.0012.00

73F, SSE 12 mph.  8:33 AP.  I started out really slow today and was able to last through 12 miles.  The last one was a sub-8!  Not sure why I'm celebrating being able to do a single mile at MP + 30 sec....I suck.  Anyway, I felt a little less beat down today so maybe I'm a step closer to acclimating a bit.  My stomach is still hanging on to everything for a long time, so maybe that's a small factor too - it's hard to hydrate.

We're off to San Antonio today to visit Shamu and friends on Wednesday.  We thought we'd be clever and go early this year when it's not so hot, but the high is 100 on Wednesday anyway.  Guessing I won't run tomorrow, but maybe a few from the hotel on Thursday morning before we head back.

1140s #3 Miles: 12.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From derhammer on Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:37:30 from 192.156.110.40

Have fun in San Antonio. Today should be great as far as "less" crowds go. But yeah, it will be hot. My 3 year old daughter will be envious, she told me just this morning that she wanted to go back and see Shamu! Have a blast.

From I Just Run on Tue, May 24, 2011 at 13:32:32 from 67.79.11.242

Hey Joe,

If you see the Shamu show...Our company created all of the water effects in that show... Hope you enjoy! Say hi to Shamu for me, but don't get too close he's kinda mean...!

From flatlander on Tue, May 24, 2011 at 13:38:41 from 207.88.181.2

Not to dispute what IJR says, but I would think today would be a good day to sit in the splash zone. Good luck, I have spent some hot days in that park.

From Kelli on Tue, May 24, 2011 at 21:10:31 from 71.219.96.115

You do not suck. You are funny!

Enjoy Shamu, that is HOT!!! It was almost that hot when we visited Shamu in November in San Diego. It was kinda miserable!

I think our high for wednesday might just hit 60 and maybe it will even not rain all day!

From SlowJoe on Tue, May 24, 2011 at 23:21:21 from 66.64.5.246

DH - yeah with school still in session it shouldn't be too bad

IJR - cool, I will pay attention this time. We noticed last year the trainers didn't swim with him/her anymore.

Flat - good call. We have suffered through some tough SW days as well.

Kelli - you guys deserve some nice weather, enjoy it! it's funny how bad our luck is - we get a nasty hot day in San Antonio, and leave Abilene while they get 2 cool mornings (lows of 63 and 59). Then come back right when it gets hot (high is 105 on Friday).

From Kelli on Wed, May 25, 2011 at 10:00:36 from 71.219.96.115

OH MAN, 105 sounds DREADFUL. Sorry, I am not being positive here for you. I will mail you some posicles!!!

From Tracy on Wed, May 25, 2011 at 10:25:10 from 209.175.177.37

Hope you're having fun in all that heat! At least no running today will give you a bit more time to recover from the flu.

From baldnspicy on Wed, May 25, 2011 at 18:53:29 from 72.77.76.85

Way to rock it, Joe! Have a great time!

I'm resisting making a Shamu joke...

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.000.008.00

76F, 10 mph winds.  Ran from the hotel in San Antonio.  8:10 AP this morning.  I think it's starting to get a little easier.  Maybe being outside all day yesterday helped.  We got to Sea World before it opened and left when it closed, 7+ hours, and the kids had no major tantrums and minimal whining -- pretty amazing.  It just keeps getting a little easier each year.  Sure enough, the car was indicating 100F on the nose as we left.

Oh yeah, and normally I think central TX is only a few degrees warmer than Abilene.  This morning Abilene was in the mid-50s.  Just twist that knife in my back, Abilene.  We're back in Abilene now, and we should beat our record high for the day tomorrow.  Record is 103, high is forecasted at 106.

1150s Miles: 8.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Burt on Thu, May 26, 2011 at 19:26:07 from 206.19.214.144

Go Abilene!

From SlowJoe on Thu, May 26, 2011 at 19:32:06 from 184.79.24.255

Abilene Abilene Abilene

From flatlander on Thu, May 26, 2011 at 19:57:38 from 198.207.244.102

I don't understand how that could happen.

From baldnspicy on Thu, May 26, 2011 at 22:40:12 from 72.77.76.85

It gets hot in Texas?

From Rye on Fri, May 27, 2011 at 00:03:51 from 174.27.71.83

Holy crap! Those temps are crazy hot. This morning we had snow just south of us. It got to 51 degree today in Idaho Falls. Nice run.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
14.000.0014.00

73F, S 20-30 mph.  Running in Abilene again if you couldn't tell by the wind.  I headed up to CR 100, my best E/W road, and ran with a nice lean (in crosswinds) for 60% of the run.

AP 7:55 today, with a sizeable negative split, and a solid effort.  I think I have gotten as acclimated to heat running as I will get.  Even in July/August it won't be a great deal warmer than this (I hope).  My guess is the same effort would've been worth about 20 sec/mile faster in cooler temps, so it's affecting me but not nearly as bad as a week ago.

1140s #3 Miles: 14.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From flatlander on Fri, May 27, 2011 at 09:43:18 from 76.31.26.153

That is a really nice run, congratulations. I was cooler than you this morning (not me, the weather), at least to start.

From SlowJoe on Fri, May 27, 2011 at 09:49:15 from 184.79.24.255

Thanks Flat, looks like you got the cold air we had yesterday. Sorry to say it didn't hang around an extra day (at least not here), would've been nice for your 5k.

From Burt on Fri, May 27, 2011 at 09:56:00 from 72.223.90.79

A for effort.

From I Just Run on Fri, May 27, 2011 at 09:56:37 from 67.79.11.242

Hey Joe,

How are you keeping hydrated on you longer runs? Do you carry water?

From SlowJoe on Fri, May 27, 2011 at 10:08:19 from 184.79.24.255

Thanks Burt, A-minus on your comment.

IJR - Now that it's hot, starting about this distance (14 miles) I use a fuel belt with 20 oz gatorade, plus carry a 20 oz gatorade bottle to nurse for the first 5 or 6 miles. When it was cooler, the fuel belt didn't come out unless I was doing 18+, and I would just carry a 20 oz gatorade for the first few miles if I was running 14-18.

From Burt on Fri, May 27, 2011 at 10:10:01 from 72.223.90.79

Any extra credit?

From SlowJoe on Fri, May 27, 2011 at 10:11:29 from 184.79.24.255

I could be bribed.

From Burt on Fri, May 27, 2011 at 10:16:05 from 72.223.90.79

Nice to know you have some scruples.

From JG on Fri, May 27, 2011 at 10:47:15 from 74.190.55.181

Nice 14 miler at a good pace! I really struggle with getting those in in the summer.

From seeaprilrun on Fri, May 27, 2011 at 18:06:41 from 174.70.177.86

Good long run in the heat! The one good thing is when the temps finally cool you will feel like you are FLYING in the fall!

From SlowJoe on Sat, May 28, 2011 at 09:30:13 from 184.79.24.255

Burt - the scruples are for sale too.

JG - thanks, I'm going to try and run a lot of this distance this summer - we'll see if I survive.

April - thanks, I think I'm ready for that day to come now.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

80F, SSW 16-26 mph.  This was the low!  I guess with the temp hitting 107 yesterday and forecasted for 109 today, there wasn't much hope for a cool morning.  I was planning on recovery miles anyway so it worked out.  8:29 AP.

1150s Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Rye on Sat, May 28, 2011 at 10:20:14 from 174.27.71.83

That has got to be difficult! I know when it reaches the 80's here in Idaho Falls its nasty and it is low humidity to boot. At least your hacking it out!

From JG on Sat, May 28, 2011 at 10:38:04 from 98.66.196.240

Yikes! Those are some scary, crazy temps! Nice recovery run

From Steam8 on Sat, May 28, 2011 at 10:58:58 from 166.70.55.77

Wow! I can't imagine running in that heat! How do you keep your miles up? Do you run at 3am? ha!

From flatlander on Sat, May 28, 2011 at 13:53:00 from 76.31.26.153

I think those heavy winds may actually be worse than the heat. Good job though.

From seeaprilrun on Sat, May 28, 2011 at 16:02:15 from 174.70.177.86

Wow. I remember you running in the desert in this stuff and you survived! You should've been here today: 66 degrees and overcast--obscenely humid but pretty comfortable nonetheless!

From derhammer on Sat, May 28, 2011 at 16:07:28 from 70.113.125.159

Yep - it was a warm one. Not that hot down here though. Only 75 at 5:30 am! Nice job in this heat.

From Burt on Sat, May 28, 2011 at 16:22:07 from 206.19.214.144

That's hotter than AZ. You win.

From SlowJoe on Sun, May 29, 2011 at 11:50:52 from 184.79.24.255

Rye - no problem, just clear out a room for me at your house in Idaho and I'll move in for the summer.

JG - thanks, definitely won't be running in the afternoon anytime soon.

S8 - it is tough for sure, but the mild winters make up for it. Plus Rye just offered up his home for the summer.

April - sounds nice. I keep having to remind myself this is way better than Iraq.

DH - rare day when our morning is more miserable than yours!

Burt - thank you, that's all I ever wanted.

From SlowJoe on Sun, May 29, 2011 at 12:08:10 from 184.79.24.255

Flat - whoops missed you on my reply. Creative route planning can minimize the wind to some degree but it certainly is getting tiresome...

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
13.560.5014.06

75F, S 22-31 mph.  Getting a little tired of the wind.  I have to go at least 2.5 miles north or south to get to an eastbound road out of town but once I get eastbound the wind isn't so bad.  I just have to decide when I want to suffer through the headwind part each morning.

8:04 AP today, with 5 x 0.1 mile pickups on the way home.  I will slowly start working in more through the summer (probably with plenty of rest like today) to try and build some speed and strength.  Then transition to more LT stuff and tempos when it starts to get cooler.

1150s Miles: 14.06
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Burt on Sun, May 29, 2011 at 12:19:52 from 72.223.90.79

You're on top of the mileage board!

From seeaprilrun on Mon, May 30, 2011 at 11:50:28 from 174.70.177.86

That's kinda like my plan for the summer!

From DaleG on Mon, May 30, 2011 at 23:15:01 from 76.27.13.205

You're an animal

From I Just Run on Tue, May 31, 2011 at 00:06:58 from 71.41.149.142

Ouch, I had the same wind today. My only problem was I had to run at 3:00 pm. It was 95 degrees.

From SlowJoe on Tue, May 31, 2011 at 13:32:35 from 131.59.200.80

Burt - that was short-lived, wasn't it

April - good, maybe I'm doing something right

Dale - anyone running in Texas during the summer must suffer a little

IJR - sounds really painful

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
12.000.0012.00

75F, S 16-24 mph.  7:58 AP.  Pretty good effort out there today with a headwind the last few miles.

1150s Miles: 12.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From derhammer on Tue, May 31, 2011 at 10:57:21 from 192.156.110.33

Nice run - at least the wind cools you down, right?

From I Just Run on Tue, May 31, 2011 at 11:36:39 from 67.79.11.242

I noticed that yesterday. At 95 degrees it's actually nice to have a 25 mph headwind because when you turn and run with the wind it gets really HOT!

Nice run Joe...as usual!

From seeaprilrun on Tue, May 31, 2011 at 18:54:30 from 174.70.177.86

The wind was ridiculous here yesterday--we had lots of 60+mph gusts. The wind here to me doesn't seem to cool much, just like a hot furnace blowing on you. I know--pessimist. It looks like you are acclimating Joe!

From SlowJoe on Wed, Jun 01, 2011 at 09:10:36 from 184.79.24.255

DH - yeah I don't mind the wind as much in the summer, as long as it's reasonable.

IJR - tailwinds here cool you off too, as long as they blow faster than you run, which they always seem to do.

April - yeah, Monday was rough. I ran when it was its lowest and only 30 mph gusts. Don't think we got up to 60 though, even in the afternoon.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

77F, S 14 mph.  8:40 AP.  No wall of wind to fight through today, kind of nice.

1140s #3 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Wed, Jun 01, 2011 at 10:34:29 from 67.79.11.242

I bet you didn't even break a sweat :-)

From flatlander on Wed, Jun 01, 2011 at 11:03:51 from 76.31.26.153

Not happy you had 77 this morning, that means I'll get it tomorrow.

From JG on Wed, Jun 01, 2011 at 12:13:36 from 74.176.220.126

Nice miles this week Joe!

From Colby Park on Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 07:16:34 from 139.139.35.70

Joe,

Nice to see you back home and looks like you ran pretty strong after all that training in Iraq. Congrats!

From SlowJoe on Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 10:50:48 from 132.3.53.68

IJR - I broke a sweat after about a quarter mile.

Flat - hope it wasn't that warm since you get the humidity accompaniment too.

Thanks JG, trying to keep building that weekly mileage.

Colby - hey thanks, good to hear from you. Glad you are healing up and back at it again.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
12.501.5014.00

70F, SSE 9 mph.  Relative to the last few days, a great morning to run.

Today the plan was 6 x 400m with 400m active recovery to introduce myself to interval training.  It was probably the right number of repeats to start out with, and I ended up getting 2 minutes rest between each set which is nice when it's hot outside.  I set the watch to 0.25 mile laps today (I guess they were 402m repeats), kind of annoying having it beep every 2 minutes, but I think it was the easiest way to go. 

First, a 10 mile warmup @ 8:11 AP.

Then the 400s with rest interval in parenthesis 1:31, (1:58), 1:32, (1:58), 1:30, (1:59), 1:28, (1:56), 1:27, (1:55), 1:27, (1:58).

Then a mile cooldown in 8:05.  Overall AP for 14 miles was 7:54.

I was initially shooting for 5k pace on the repeats and ended up doing a little better.  Next time I'll probably try 8 repeats and slow down the recovery jogs.  On the way home I ran through a cloud of gnats and had about 20 of them stuck to my torso when I finished.  What a horrible way to die, drowning in someone's sweat.  Well, that's what they get for hanging out on my route.

1150s Miles: 14.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From derhammer on Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 11:20:43 from 192.156.110.33

Nice start to repeats. We had swarms of gnats around the track this morning - I must have had a hundred or so. I wiped off with a towel and still had enough stuck on me when I got home that my son asked me what was on my chest. He thought it was pretty funny when I explained what happened.

From Burt on Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 13:40:53 from 206.19.214.144

Gnats. My mortal enemy. Actually, we don't get too many of them here, but I did run through a swarm the other day. Was not expecting it.

From DaleG on Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 14:42:34 from 76.27.13.205

Nice run. Stupid gnats. I hate when I run through a cloud of them and have to keep my mouth shut. I can't breathe very well through my nose.

From SlowJoe on Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 19:33:03 from 184.79.24.255

DH - nice, all the better that you were on the track and got to experience it lap after lap.

Burt - they don't strike until they sense you're unprepared.

Dale - I'm the same way, I've definitely eaten my share.

From JG on Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 23:56:17 from 74.176.220.126

10 mile warm-up ... that cracks me up! Great Job ... all week!!

From SlowJoe on Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 09:52:42 from 184.79.24.255

thanks JG...yeah, I guess 10 miles is a little more than a warm-up. At this point I'm prioritizing the mileage increases over running my best possible workouts.

From Steam8 on Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 10:13:25 from 166.70.55.77

That is what I was thinking...a 10 mile warm-up?! haha! SlowJoe...you are not slow! :)

From SlowJoe on Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 10:24:56 from 184.79.24.255

Steam8 - If I keep doing 10-mile warmups maybe I can qualify for Boston one day, then I'll be fast like you and JG!

From Steam8 on Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 10:28:20 from 166.70.55.77

I only had to run a 3:45. When I can run a marathon in 3:15 then I'll be fast like you! :)

From Steam8 on Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 10:29:47 from 166.70.55.77

Whoa! and a 5K in 19! You are fast. I am calling you FastJoe from now on!

From SlowJoe on Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 11:26:59 from 184.79.24.255

Well, thanks, that is nice (I still like SlowJoe though!) Although the difference in time standards has a reason -- we have this "testosterone" stuff that probably gives us a nice advantage! Not that I don't get crushed by ladies on a regular basis anyway...

From seeaprilrun on Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 20:38:20 from 174.70.177.86

10 mile warm-up! I love it! Nice speed session!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

67F, low wind.  Wasted this nice, cool morning doing a recovery run (8:33 AP) which my legs needed from yesterday.  Oh well.

Funny picture from our little vacation last week.  The day after Sea World we went on a drive-thru safari and the zebras were very agressive.

I finally decided to dive away from the zebras when one of them stuck its head in the car and ate the entire bag of food, including the bag.

1140s #3 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 10:12:28 from 67.79.11.242

LOL ... That's a great picture!

From SlowJoe on Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 12:50:46 from 184.79.24.255

The fun was definitely over once the zebras terrorized them.

From Rye on Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 13:03:31 from 75.174.13.142

Nice dental work!

From flatlander on Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 08:15:58 from 76.31.26.153

Great picture, where is that safari? I see some granddaughter time coming.

From SlowJoe on Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 09:44:01 from 184.79.24.255

Rye - their breath stunk too, but not as bad as the llamas.

Flat - just NE of San Antonio http://wildliferanchtexas.com/

Right next door is the natural bridge caverns, also kinda interesting.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.000.008.00

70F, SSE 12 mph. General aerobic run, 7:53 AP. Felt pretty strong today. Long run tomorrow.

1150s Miles: 8.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From seeaprilrun on Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 20:38:48 from 174.70.177.86

General aerobic run. Nice. I like the terminology!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
16.001.0017.00

71F, low wind.  Maybe the worst of the wind season is over.  It still blows like crazy in the afternoon but the mornings have been nice the past few days.

At 17 miles, this was my longest run since OKC.  I don't see myself trying to go any longer than this during the summer off-season, there's probably no need.  AP was 7:57 today.  Ended up being a progressive run (I started at 4:30am so the first few miles were ugly).  First half was 8:19 AP, second half was 7:35 AP.

Highlights were seeing my first live skunk (after having seen a few dozen carcasses) and having a dog charge through a hay field toward me.  It was dark with no moon when it happened, and I could hear the rustling quickly getting closer and sorta see the disturbed grass on a course to intercept me.  I was hoping it wasn't a coyote but I got ready and out pops this little 10-pound dog yapping at me.

1140s #3 Miles: 17.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From seeaprilrun on Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 20:00:25 from 174.70.177.86

Haha killer dog! I haven't heard the coyotes around here lately--they must have gone South to your neck of the woods.

From JG on Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 00:49:40 from 74.176.220.126

Great job Joe, very solid pace for second half of a 17 miler! I wish I could get runs in like that in the summer - it will definitely pay huge dividends!! Thank God it was a little guy & not a coyote ... or a 50 pound mean dog for that matter!

From Steam8 on Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 01:34:30 from 166.70.55.77

I think I would be more afraid of the skunk! ha! What a great run!

From Rye on Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 13:00:46 from 75.174.30.7

Great run joe. Ahh, skunks,and dogs! Don't all Texans pack. Figured you could just shoot whatever comes your way. If you get into trouble I'm sure flatlander can help.

From allie on Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 15:22:55 from 161.38.218.168

great run, with lots of wild animal adventures on the side.

From SlowJoe on Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 10:36:36 from 132.3.53.68

April - coyotes are ok, chupacabras are not

JG - most of the dogs here are all bark and no bite, fortunately

S8 - I definitely picked up the pace a little when I saw him!

Rye - I think most Texans do, I'm probably one of the few with no weapons in the house.

Allie - usually the wild animals are decomposing on the side of the road, so this was better.

From Tracy on Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 18:55:21 from 173.24.38.54

At least the skunk didn't stink you.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
13.370.7014.07

76F, S 12 mph.  7:55 AP.  Fartlek on the way home with 8 x pickups ranging from about 75m - 200m in distance.

In the winter, the weather here can be somewhat unpredictable.  In the summer, not so much...

1150s Miles: 14.07
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From derhammer on Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 10:29:26 from 192.156.110.34

Yep - my car said the outside temp was 103 yesterday at 6 pm. Hey, at least we get to run 365 days a year. I would rather run in 80 degrees at 6 am in the summer than 20 degrees (or colder) and snow/rain as most others have to during the winter. Pick your poison, I guess. :-)

From JG on Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 13:14:37 from 74.190.51.84

Nice run Joe ... my 10 day forecast looks pretty much the same ... although about 10 degrees cooler! I will remind my self that at least I am not in Texas, next time I run!

From DaleG on Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 14:47:58 from 76.27.13.205

That's brutal. I would not survive in that heat. In fact, I DON'T survive when it gets that hot around here. Luckily it has been nice and cool for once.

From seeaprilrun on Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 19:31:35 from 174.70.177.86

This looks eerily like our weather this week, although we get to cool down a little this weekend. Nice run! You and your main foe the weather crack me up!

From Tracy on Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 18:54:24 from 173.24.38.54

Your chart is sad/funny. But you're doing well in the heat.

From SlowJoe on Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 20:12:21 from 184.79.24.255

Thanks for all the pity/empathy, I will try to complain less.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

76F S 15-21 mph.  8:36 AP.

Danielle obtained an old set of Insanity DVDs from someone and we did Day 1 last night.  Let's just say I'm not looking forward to the rest of the workouts.

1150s Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 10:09:03 from 67.79.11.242

Is Danielle still running? I haven't seen her on the Blog lately.

From Rye on Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 18:40:01 from 75.174.13.142

Go insanity! My daughter is a Zumba instructor and I finally gave (caved) in to a session. Holy Crap! It kicked my butt. Course I can't dance a lick!

From seeaprilrun on Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 22:00:43 from 174.70.177.86

I have heard about those. I am morbidly curious.

From Steam8 on Thu, Jun 09, 2011 at 08:55:34 from 166.70.55.77

Ahahahaaa! Those are killer! Good luck!

From SlowJoe on Thu, Jun 09, 2011 at 10:48:28 from 132.3.53.68

IJR - she's still running, just not into FRB these days.

Rye - yeah me and dancing don't get along either, sounds tough.

April - turn away while you still can

S8 - sounds like the voice of experience - am I in big trouble or what?

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
15.510.0015.51

78F, S 17-27 mph.  So last night Danielle and I did day 2 of Insanity - cardio plyometrics or some crap like that.  Ouch.  Anyway, I realized after we were done as I wobbled over to get some more water that my 15-miler was only 8-9 hours away.  So I'd tentatively planned to do 6 x 800m @ 5K pace this morning but after the first mile I cancelled that plan and decided to just survive the run.  I ended up doing an 8:09 AP, no fast finish, no intervals, just a heavy-legged solid aerobic effort.

It's possible that increasing my mileage + introducing speedwork + Insanity might be asking for trouble, so I think I'll just do a few fast finishes here and there when I feel good and not worry too much about speed while I'm building this nice fat mileage base.

1140s #3 Miles: 15.51
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Thu, Jun 09, 2011 at 10:58:17 from 67.79.11.242

Sorry Joe but I had to chuckle a little as I read your post ... I know the feeling :-)

From JG on Thu, Jun 09, 2011 at 11:43:59 from 74.190.55.151

You are insane! You can do your 800s tonight with a 1/2 mile warm-up & cool-down, and you will pass Trap back up on the top of the mileage leaderboard ... then you can do Day 3 of Insanity for dessert! :)

Seriously, don't over do it ... maybe do speed work just one day a week ... in conjunction with reduced mileage!

Great run this morning.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.500.005.50

77F, S 12 mph.  8:59 AP.  More Insanity last night; I needed a nice easy day like this.

1140s #3 Miles: 5.50
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Burt on Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 01:05:37 from 72.223.90.79

The only Insanity workout I've done is the recovery workout. RECOVERY??? I don't think so!

From SlowJoe on Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 11:09:50 from 184.79.24.255

I know, we were excited that it was recovery day last night...I guess there was less sweating but still lots of pain!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.000.008.00

79F S 14-23 mph.  8:14 AP.  Got started a little later than usual.  When I finished I could've sworn it was 90 degrees out but I checked and it was only 81.  I'm doing a race Friday evening (3-hour race) where it will actually be in the 90s so I'm probably in big trouble there...

Last night's Insanity workout was cardio recovery.  For a "recovery" it sure crushed my quads.

1140s #3 Miles: 8.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 13:55:00 from 71.41.149.142

Ahhh... You got me by 1 mile today :-)

I ran late too, it was 75 when I started but I'm not sure what the temp was when I finished. Now we get to start another week!

From I Just Run on Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 13:55:58 from 71.41.149.142

Can't wait to hear from our Bud's - Flat and Hammer ... !

From SlowJoe on Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 14:20:29 from 184.79.24.255

Yeah I keep checking every so often in case there's a report!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
11.004.0015.00

76F, S 15-24 mph.  We skipped Insanity last night so this was my first run in awhile without completely dead legs.  I figured I'd try a fast finish and do the last 4 miles tempo.  In cool weather I'd want 6:50-6:55/mile so I figured I'd be happy to keep the pace below 7:10 today.

First, 11 miles easy, 8:05 AP.

Then 4 fast, 6:56 AP (7:06, 6:59, 6:57, 6:41)

7:46 AP for all 15.

The effort level was probably a bit higher than a normal tempo run, but I was happy with the splits.  Probably would've keeled over if I had to do 1 more mile like that though.

1150s Miles: 15.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From seeaprilrun on Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 10:47:08 from 98.196.179.110

Nice long run! You kept a nice pace in the heat! I firmly believe that despite the slower paces the heat forces, the training stimulus is still there and when it coos off you will be FLYING and strong!

From JG on Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 12:07:38 from 98.66.194.199

Wow Joe ... you were flying those last 4 miles! Awesome run!

From I Just Run on Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 15:01:13 from 71.41.149.142

Great run Joe. I didn't have as a successful long run day.

From SlowJoe on Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:43:01 from 132.3.53.68

April - that's what I'm hoping

Thanks JG

IJR - I'd call any 17-miler in the heat a success

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.040.005.04

76F, low wind.  Insanity last night was "pure cardio."  You know it's bad when all the fit-looking people in the video are dropping like flies.  This morning - recovery run, 5 @ 8:54 AP.

There's a race here Friday evening (9pm-midnight): run as many 1-mile laps as you can in 3 hours.  The problem is that the high is 105 on Friday, meaning it will still be close to 100 when the race starts, and maybe low-90s by race finish at midnight.  I thought it was a cool concept but not sure about those temps.  May just enter anyway and go for 21 miles (8:34 pace).  Anything faster seems dangerous; actually 8:34 may even be asking a lot, I really have no idea when it gets that hot.

1140s #3 Miles: 5.04
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:50:09 from 67.79.11.242

I think that race should be call "Insanity". It doesn't sound fun to me right now!

From Stacy on Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 13:25:18 from 184.97.20.171

That is some amazing heat you are dealing with. I like heat, but I cannot imagine running in that. At least the sun won't be beating down on you. The race sounds like a neat concept. Something different. Good luck.

From Rye on Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 16:17:56 from 174.27.98.11

Holy Crap! Those temps are crazy! It got up to 60 degrees here today. Too bad I can't run!!!!!

From flatlander on Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 21:04:27 from 76.31.26.153

Good grief, they do that every Friday night straight through the summer? Sounds like Badwater training or something.

From JG on Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 00:38:52 from 74.190.123.16

Race in 95 degree heat?! I think my plan would be 9 minute miles & hydrate for a minute after each one! Anything over 18 miles would be amazing ... stay hydrated!!

From SlowJoe on Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 10:32:08 from 132.3.53.68

IJR - they actually have a 6-hour option. Those people should be locked up.

Stacy - lack of sun is the reason I think I will attempt it...we'll see if it helps

Rye - that nice weather is really teasing you

Flat - no, not every week, just this week (summer solstice). Usually I think it's in the mid-80s but this heat wave ups the ante a bit

JG - will do - definitely need to go by feel, not pace!

From seeaprilrun on Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 19:50:57 from 174.70.177.86

That doesn't sound like fun in the heat, but definitely interesting. It would be cool if you accidentally ran a marathon.

From SlowJoe on Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 23:14:40 from 184.79.24.255

Yes, that would be cool. If I could accidentally run a marathon in 95 degrees in less than 3 hours, I wouldn't be doing this race. I'd be off collecting my award for Most Super-Human Runner in the History of Running.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
12.000.0012.00

76F, S 20 mph.  7:53 AP.  Legs had some pep today for some reason, kind of a mystery since we did Insanity plyometrics last night.

Now for a 2-day taper for my race on Friday night.  Although I'm not sure I should be calling it a race.  Survival contest, maybe.  On the plus side, the high is now only forecasted to be 103 on Friday so might get mid-90s to start.

1150s Miles: 12.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Tracy on Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 10:38:49 from 173.24.38.54

Sweet! Mid 90s sounds like a great starting temperature! At least it's a night race, so it won't get hotter?

Enjoy the taper.

From I Just Run on Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 12:01:36 from 198.228.209.39

Is this race on a track? How many people will be in the race? Do you think it will be crowded?

From SlowJoe on Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 12:27:13 from 132.3.53.68

Tracy - yea, it'll be wonderful!

IJR - there's a 1-mile loop at a local park, so each lap is a mile. I think last year there were 40-60 participants (guessing less this year), so not too crowded.

From JG on Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 16:25:47 from 74.190.123.16

Nice 12 miler! I might come do it with you! Wait ... no direct flights from Atlanta to Abilene ... Darn! :)

From Rye on Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 19:02:31 from 174.27.100.202

It's got to be difficult to run hooked up to an IV..... good luck! Thats crazy!

From SlowJoe on Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 10:22:24 from 132.3.53.68

JG - dang! But if there were direct flights I'm sure you would be here.

Rye - the trick is to really tape it on there good.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
7.160.007.16

78F, SSE 17 mph.  7:51 AP.

High on Friday now 106.  Not sure why I care though; what's the difference whether the "race" starts at 95F or 98F?

1140s #3 Miles: 7.16
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Tracy on Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 10:26:54 from 173.24.38.54

What do you think will be the lowest temp while you're running? High 80s?

Whew. You'll be sweaty for sure.

From SlowJoe on Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 10:40:25 from 132.3.53.68

Yeah, hoping it dips into the 80s by the end. It'll be close to 90 around midnight. Safe to say I won't even be bringing a shirt...

From I Just Run on Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 16:40:55 from 67.79.11.242

Well the good thing is that everyone will be running in the same heat :-) I'm trying to find something positive...!

From seeaprilrun on Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 22:54:44 from 174.70.177.86

No difference. That just...bites.

From Stacy on Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 23:10:51 from 97.114.163.197

Pray for a breeze. :)

From Steam8 on Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 02:16:57 from 166.70.55.77

WOW! I can't believe it is that hot down there already! I thought today at 85 was a bit too hot! Race on Saturday? Good luck!!!

From flatlander on Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:21:10 from 76.31.26.153

I think the goal is for it to be as hot as possible, that's just the type of race it is. There is one in Fort Worth that I ran a couple of years ago, basically an all-night party starting at midnight, you can do either a 25K or a 50K. It was a little cooler than planned, so they promised to put up space heaters along the course.

From SlowJoe on Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:33:57 from 132.3.53.68

IJR - yep should be fun for all

April - true statement

Stacy - should be nice and windy, too!

S8 - thanks!

Flat - I think you're right...sadists!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.820.005.82

79F, 17-27 mph.  8:33 avg.  Race pace for tomorrow?  Anyway, looks like it'll be solidly in the 90s for the race tomorrow.  Start about 98, finish around 91.  I thought of a great idea as I finished up this run - I should have done training runs in the heat.  Timely thinking, SlowJoe...

1150s Miles: 5.82
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From derhammer on Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 11:14:30 from 65.67.40.73

The race sounds like an excellent opportunity for heat stroke. Go easy out there! They should make umbrella hats for runners.

From Steam8 on Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 12:55:32 from 166.70.55.77

haha! Good Luck! Good Luck!

From Burt on Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 17:31:49 from 206.19.214.144

Just become one with the sun.

From DaleG on Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 18:12:47 from 76.27.13.205

Good luck tomorrow. Sounds like a fun race, but that heat will makes things miserable.

From seeaprilrun on Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 21:55:06 from 174.70.177.86

Good luck tomorrow! I am interested to hear how it goes.

From I Just Run on Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 09:50:31 from 67.79.11.242

I'm assuming you're considering this a fun run and not a goal setting run...so have fun! I'm interested to see how it goes and how may participate.

From SlowJoe on Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 09:59:16 from 132.3.53.68

Thanks all, I'm just viewing it as a (fun?) training run with a bib, and we'll see what happens. The high today is now forecasted for a record 108F. awesome.

From baldnspicy on Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 22:15:49 from 68.247.100.72

Congrats to Abilene, TX for its (forecasted) PR!! Good luck on your race, Joe! :-)

I just noticed that my mileage is 1.15% of yours for the year. But I'm a bit over 6% of yours for this month, so I'm trending up. Plus, the Pittsburgh Pirates are finally over .500 How could life get better? Haha

From JG on Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 11:01:48 from 98.66.189.76

Hope you survived the heat & are not hooked up to an IV somewhere!!

From seeaprilrun on Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 12:35:31 from 174.70.177.86

Echo JG--awaiting word!

From flatlander on Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 13:09:05 from 76.31.26.153

APB, please check in!

From baldnspicy on Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 13:39:47 from 72.77.101.46

Calling all cars, calling all cars...

Be on the lookout for a tall white skinned brother with dimples

Wearing a black kangol, sweatsuit, gold chain, and sneakers

Last seen in Abilene headed east

Alias SlowJoe

He's bad...

Aaaahhhhhhhhhh...

Race: Summer Solstice 3-hour Endurance Run (22 Miles) 03:03:40, Place overall: 1, Place in age division: 1
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
22.020.0022.02

100F, S 13 mph. When I got in my car to go to the race at 8pm, it was 104, but apparently just a nice cool 100 for the 9pm start.

This race had 3 and 6 hour options. There were maybe 60 people total, with the majority probably doing 3 hours but the 6 hour race had quite a few too -- lots of Marathon Maniacs came out for a rare Friday marathon. There was a 1-mile course (which was refreshingly accurate by my Garmin) and the goal was to complete as many laps as you could.

The big question mark for me was how do I pace myself in 100-degree heat? I mean, I knew it would be a lot slower than MP, but how much - 30 seconds, a minute, 90 seconds? My battle was trying to feel out a pace that wouldn't kill me, but still not waste too much time.

Miles 1-7: 8:19, 8:19, 8:23, 8:15, 8:27, 8:15, 8:13.

The race started at a nice slow pace and I was in the lead pack of 6 for the first 2 miles. I was relieved no one was going fast because I might have been stupid enough to follow. Actually the pack broke up a little after that; 3 guys dropped back, 1 took off, and me and Ironman (he was decked out in Ironman gear, complete with skimpy Ironman-labeled shorts) ran together for the next couple miles until I dropped him at a water stop. For hydration, it was good we had a 1-mile loop because there was an aid station every mile. At this point I was taking 1 cup each time around. It felt miserably hot but the pace felt doable so far.

Miles 8-14: 8:11, 8:11, 8:16, 8:13, 8:30, 8:42, 8:29. About the time I started this portion, the timing people told me I was in the lead, so either the guy in front dropped out or he was in the 6-hour race. Right after that I heard someone come up right behind me. Ironman had caught back up. He stayed on my heels for a mile, then passed me. I sorta tried to keep up but it felt like too much so I let him drop me. At this point (mile 12-ish) I was getting thirsty and tired too. I started walking through the aid station each time, grabbing 2 or 3 cups and walking while I guzzled them down.  With this new approach, miles 12-14 were slow, as I took it easy running too, but I managed to get a bit of a second wind.

Miles 15-22: 8:13, 8:06, 8:15, 8:11, 8:22, 8:29, 8:38, 8:32.  I was 1:56:xx at 14 miles and saw that there was a chance I could finish 22.  Picked up the pace for a few miles and started to overheat.  I was giving myself little pat-downs to make sure I was still sweating, and I was getting a bit dry.  And crusted with salt.  Anyway, heat-induced apathy set in and I slogged to mile 21.  Then they told me that I could run mile 22 since I started it before 3 hours.  I was devastated that I had to do another mile.  Like, completely crushed.  Anyway, I finished behind Ironman, but he kept going - he was in the 6-hour event!  So, I had myself a (somewhat hollow) victory.  Kudos to the 2 guys who ran faster and farther.  So I got a gift card to Academy worth a little more than the race fee - bonus!

When we finished, they announced the temperature was 95.  Somehow that felt cool at the time.  I drank a ton of liquids after I was done.  I felt as if I had run a marathon, but fortunately today my legs aren't marathon-sore.  Just long-run sore.  I guess the heat helped in that respect -- slower miles = quicker recovery.  I weighed myself this morning (after I thought I re-hydrated) and I was at 143.  The lowest I have ever seen in my adult life is 148, so kind of freaky.  I probably wouldn't do another run like this, but I'm glad I did this once.

1150s Miles: 22.02
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 16:48:07 from 71.41.149.142

What....What....Wait a minute, you can't leave me hanging like this! What's the end of the story...! Where's miles 15 through 22...!? Where's the Ironman...Where's the other guy...?

From TexasLindsey on Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 17:02:04 from 70.235.190.45

No Joke, you can't just cut off a story in the middle?! How did you pull it off?! I can't believe you did a mile loop 22 times in 105 degrees. How boring! You deserve a HUGE medal for that!

Have you heard of El Scorcho? If you did this race, I bet you'd be into El Scorcho... it's in July and starts at midnight. 3 mile loop, trinity trails Fort Worth, 25k or 50k. Pretty much run all night until sun comes up. People who run it are so hooked on it. I've never been able to run it because of young children (and because 3 mile loop sounds boring)...

From I Just Run on Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 17:13:22 from 71.41.149.142

Maybe it was delayed reaction to the HEAT...! Maybe he killed over while typing out his race report and halfway through it died and fell forward and his head just happend to hit the send button.....Oh Poor Slow Joe...We should have a FRB memorial... :-)

From SlowJoe on Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 17:49:22 from 184.79.24.255

sorry, spotty internet today. not sure how that happens in this day and age...

From SlowJoe on Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 18:03:34 from 184.79.24.255

IJR - I'll leave you some running shoes in my will.

Lindsey - Thanks. El Scorcho sounds awful! I actually hate the heat, so I'm not sure what I was thinking with this race... Think I will stick to 5Ks until October rolls around!

From derhammer on Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 18:04:35 from 70.113.125.159

Nice first place finish. Did you get a trophy or something?

TL - funny you should mention El Scorcho - I have been signed up since March. Somehow I let my friend, who ran it last year, talk me into it.

From JG on Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 18:45:35 from 98.66.189.76

Joe ... That is an absolutely amazing run in that heat! You rock!! That run will pay huge dividends. I can't believe you actually ran Mile 22 ... you are nuts!!

From Burt on Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 19:12:04 from 72.223.90.79

JOE! Is this like two victories in a row for you? You're the best!

From Tracy on Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 19:27:25 from 208.54.38.221

I admire you. I think you're nuts. It's not a 50/50 balance, but I'm not sure yet which way the scale is tipping. Congrats on a good race, scaring yourself with a low weight, and not being sore!

From Steam8 on Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 00:12:49 from 166.70.55.77

I don't know how you run in that heat! I hope you have rehydrated! Great job on the run!!!

From DaleG on Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 02:37:28 from 76.27.13.205

Wow, congrats on 1st place!!! There is no way I could have run that far in those temps. I hope you're recovering nicely.

From seeaprilrun on Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 10:06:27 from 174.70.177.86

This is great Joe! I love how you picked a race focusing on your numero uno hate, heat, and then went and won it and ran in it for 3 hours lol! Runners somehow have a thing for self-torture. Great job and a prize to boot! Keep hydrating and stay well!

From SlowJoe on Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 15:34:16 from 184.79.24.255

DH - thanks, in addition to the gift card, I got a glass tube of gumballs for some reason.

JG - thanks - wanted to quit after 21 but the thought of someone passing me in the standings due to my laziness was just enough to get me going.

Burt - it's good to live in a smaller town sometimes!

Tracy - thanks, but you forgot stupid, although that might bleed into crazy.

S8 - I'm back to a nice healthy 150 now.

DG - the desire to quit popped up pretty quick but the people on the track kinda keep each other going.

April - thanks, yeah "torture" came to mind a few times for sure. I hope it makes the mornings in the 70s feel easier now.

From Stacy on Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 20:06:47 from 97.114.163.197

Wow, very impressive. I cannot imagine going that far in that kind of heat. Well done. Crazy. But well done. :)

From JG on Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 23:15:19 from 74.190.53.198

I am curious, do you know what your pre-race weight was, in other words, how many pounds you lost? I lost 5.5 tonight on my run, and I only ran 8.5 miles! Definitely something to be careful with running in the heat!

From SlowJoe on Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 09:54:10 from 132.3.53.68

Thanks Stacy, definitely had to go to my happy place mentally!

JG - I didn't weigh myself beforehand but I'm usually 150 if not a little more in the evening. Not sure of the exact amount I drank during the race; I'd estimate a gallon (it was a lot, multiple cups each mile). Then probably drank almost as much afterward and still came out 7 pounds short of normal. So my guess is I lost about 20 pounds of sweat +/- 5 lbs, during the race.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
4.000.004.00

9:00 pace

I took a look at the detailed results of the race (when our stupid internet finally came back) and learned a couple things.  I was only a minute behind Ironman after mile 22, and he slowed down a lot after that.  The other guy who I thought was in front, actually wasn't (although he still did the 6-hour race too, and won).  I passed him in the last lap.  I remember doing it too, but he was going so slow I thought it wasn't him.  So it makes me feel a little better that they both slowed down a ton after 3 hours.  Still can't imagine going another 14 miles after I finished though...wow.

1140s #3 Miles: 4.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From JG on Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 20:08:49 from 74.190.53.198

Very impressive Joe! Makes me want to go out & run 22 miles!! If I have not posted my run by 11:00 PM, please call 911! lol

From I Just Run on Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 23:35:50 from 71.41.149.142

I ran 7 today and I know there is no way I could run 22 right now in this heat. I feel like I need to call 911 just thinking about it!

From Steam8 on Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 00:22:46 from 166.70.55.77

I can't imagine 1 mile in 100 degree heat! Nice job!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

78F, S 24-36 mph.  8:33 avg.  The headwind sections were kind of funny, really ground to a halt.  This week is a scale-back week with mileage in the 40s, then back to building up again.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 09:59:28 from 67.79.11.242

Luckly the wind didn't start blowing hard here until after I was finished running (only about 15 mph during the run). I can't believe you are running what you are after the race/run Saturday...no real rest?

From SlowJoe on Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:25:27 from 132.3.53.68

I'm cutting back to about 75% this week, mileage-wise. The heat during the race made me go slow enough to where the soreness was just more like a long run versus a marathon. Legs are still a little fatigued but not too bad.

From Rye on Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 14:44:09 from 71.209.26.154

78 degrees and a breeze.... you must feel great running in that! Good luck this week cutting back a bit. Gotta freshen up those legs for the next phase!

From seeaprilrun on Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 22:13:17 from 174.70.177.86

You have motivated me to play it smart and keep my easy days mellow...it's paying off for you bigtime. Have you decided on a fall marathon?

From JG on Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 09:00:04 from 74.190.53.198

Must be nice to scale back to the 40's, I am trying to figure out how to get in the 40's in the heat! Nice run.

From SlowJoe on Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 09:53:19 from 132.3.53.68

Rye - it was even nicer this morning!

April - ahhh fall marathon. I still don't know. If I do one at all, the most likely is Albuquerque right now, but the problem with that one is it's 2 weeks before our local half marathon and I really want to do well there. Kansas would be just about perfect but we're going to be in Tyler that weekend. I might end up just signing up at the last minute for one of the Texas races if I see a good weather forecast - that could mean not doing one at all, which I'm ok with. I have this weird issue where I don't want to enter one unless I know I'll PR, so I'm being a baby about picking one with cool temps. I guess it's because a marathon takes you out for weeks (taper + recovery) so I don't want to waste the training time for Houston unless I know I'll do well. Long answer to your short question!

JG - every morning when the alarm goes off [way too early], I wonder if it's worth it...but I'm always happy once I start running.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.000.008.00

69F, low wind.  A big storm came in last night and dropped a much-needed 1 inch of rain--it's the most we've had since April.  That made for an awesome cool morning.

We did Insanity last night after 4 days off so my legs were a bit tired but the cool weather cancelled it out and I ran a nice 7:53 AP.  I almost wore a shirt today; turns out I should've because it was a bad bug day - I had at least a hundred gnats stuck to me after the run (new PR).

1140s #3 Miles: 8.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 10:07:23 from 67.79.11.242

I saw the 69F and thought I was on the wrong Blog. I feel like I need to congradulate you for having the cool weather (I don't know why). We sure need rain down here! I'm a little slow but I got the gnat PR after the second time I read it :-)

From Steam8 on Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 10:28:28 from 166.70.55.77

Hey FAST JOE! Nice run! Running after it rains is my favorite time to run! Glad it cooled down a bit for you. Sorry about the bugs! Move to Utah! :)

From derhammer on Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 10:36:10 from 192.156.110.33

Still 0 miles on your Kinvaras? Are you going to try them out soon?

From SlowJoe on Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 11:00:29 from 132.3.53.68

IJR - yeah I should have specified "gnat PR." The ccol weather is definitely a great accomplishment for me.

S8 - Burt said they would never allow me to enter Utah.

DH - I just got em this weekend -- on Thursday I'm only doing 6 miles so that will be the test drive.

From Burt on Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 13:12:07 from 206.19.214.144

No Utah for you! Shaun T would not approve!

From flatlander on Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 15:13:32 from 198.207.244.102

Very jealous of your temps. Was glad to get the rain here but I think it makes the running worse. Good job on the run.

From SlowJoe on Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 21:16:41 from 75.109.104.60

Burt - Shaun T would not be allowed into Utah either. He cursed at the end of pure cardio!

Flat - yeah it dries up pretty quick here. By the time I ran, there wasn't a cloud in the sky.

From Burt on Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 22:23:20 from 72.223.90.79

Tracy wanted to curse when we got to the top of the mountain, but she showed great restraint.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
10.050.0010.05

69F, low wind - a repeat of yesterday.  I think the cool weather may be coming to an end soon, though.  Today, just built aerobic base, 7:59 AP.

1150s Miles: 10.05
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From flatlander on Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 08:59:03 from 76.31.26.153

We got our cool weather just now, sorry to hear it is ending so soon.

From I Just Run on Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 10:31:09 from 67.79.11.242

You didn't get any rain...?

From derhammer on Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:34:37 from 192.156.110.40

It's has been a nice reprieve - back to the oven in a couple of days!

From seeaprilrun on Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 20:59:37 from 174.70.177.86

Ah enjoy that--you need it after your death defying heat run over the weekend! We will bloom like flowers in fall--right?

From SlowJoe on Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 21:00:22 from 75.109.104.60

Flat - we'll hope for 1 more day.

IJR - no rain last night, just Monday night/Tues morning here

DH - yeah the 10-day is depressing once again

From SlowJoe on Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 21:01:02 from 75.109.104.60

April - that's the plan!

From baldnspicy on Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 01:27:20 from 72.77.122.20

You're really packing in the miles, Joe, at a nice pace! Keep it up. You're priming for a killer PR later this year!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

72F, low wind.  Another really nice morning.  7:50 AP.

I tested out the Kinvaras today - I'm trying to find a lightweight, every day shoe in which I can eventually run a marathon; I'd read nothing but good things about this shoe (and derhammer obviously is a fan) so I tried em (father's day present!) and I was pretty happy with them.  Weight-wise, they are only supposed to be worth 5 sec/mile if you believe the rule-of-thumb that's out there.  Seems like they will be good for a lot more than that (I kept looking at my watch expecting the normal 8:00-8:15 and seeing 7:40s), but I'm guessing a lot of that is mental -- kinda felt like I was just gliding along.  Another factor might have been the easier "cardio recovery" Insanity workout last night, which isn't as exhausting.  Comfort-wise, they felt as nice as my trainers.  I'll wait a few days and see if I get the achilles soreness (it has taken awhile to show up when I've run in flats before) then try again. 

Kinvaras Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From flatlander on Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 09:15:24 from 198.207.244.102

I'm obviously a big fan, but I also have to watch my achilles all the time. I think your approach is good, and I don't think the faster pace is your imagination.

From JG on Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 10:18:39 from 74.190.130.251

Sweet Fathers Day gift!!

Hmmmm ... I might have to try a pair! I definitely noticed a speed difference when I got my Brooks ST-6 racers this Spring, but the tread is wearing down so fast, I have to save them for races. For an inexpensive sport, running sure gets expensive when you run a lot of miles & races!!

From I Just Run on Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 11:53:45 from 67.79.11.242

I agree with Flat...the faster pace has nothing to do with the shoes in your case...quit trying to make excuses and just admit how fast you're getting :-)

From derhammer on Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 17:00:18 from 65.67.40.73

I have found I run faster in these shoes, too. They definitely help me find a more efficient stride and the energy return is very good as well. I hope they work out for you over the long term. These shoes have also been the best wearing shoes that I have owned.

From seeaprilrun on Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 18:24:01 from 174.70.177.86

I have thought about trying those. I am still stuck in the Nike lunar line...they have some good lightweight shoes. I like the lunarfly. I think the feeling of lightness does make a difference. When I wear heavier running shoes they feel like bricks.

From SlowJoe on Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 16:45:00 from 132.3.53.68

Flat - whether it's mental or physical, I like it!

JG - I know, I never thought when I started that I would be blowing through 2 pairs of shoes every 4 months.

IJR - it's the shoes, I know it!

DH - thanks, yeah so far no issues and the felt great. I'll hopefully attempt a long run within a few weeks.

April - yeah putting on the trainers this morning I had that brick-like feeling. I will have to look into the lunarfly if these don't work out.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
10.002.0012.00

74F, S 10 mph.

No Insanity workout last night as I got home from work around 10pm, which is bedtime for me.  7:44 avg for the run, which was a progressive finish.  Last 5 were 7:42, 7:34, 7:23, 7:16, 6:53.  Slight headwind on the last 3.  I was working pretty hard at the end, although in mile 11 I had to stop dead for 5 seconds (right before my only tough hill) and slide over to the deep grass as someone up ahead decided the shoulder was an appropriate lane to drive in.  I guess that's why I run against traffic.

Tomorrow will be a day off, my rest week is over and I think my legs have a bit more life in them now.  I hope to crush that life out of them over the next few weeks with some nice high mileage.

1150s Miles: 12.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 12:37:15 from 67.79.11.242

Your roads must be narrow like the ones I run on, they have no sholder! Nice running this week, your average pace has really gone down.

From derhammer on Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 13:10:34 from 192.156.110.39

Sweet run. Did you pick a race yet or is Houston the one?

From JG on Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 13:19:09 from 74.190.130.251

Great run/finish! 46 miles on a rest week! I wanna run like Joe!! lol

From SlowJoe on Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 16:16:00 from 132.3.53.68

IJR - mostly I am on narrow dirt roads with no traffic but in this case the road had a nice fat shoulder. Maybe too fat if someone thought it was a lane.

DH - it may just be Houston. I'll paste my answer to April the other day:

If I do one at all, the most likely is Albuquerque right now, but the problem with that one is it's 2 weeks before our local half marathon and I really want to do well there. Kansas would be just about perfect but we're going to be in Tyler that weekend. I might end up just signing up at the last minute for one of the Texas races if I see a good weather forecast - that could mean not doing one at all, which I'm ok with. I have this weird issue where I don't want to enter one unless I know I'll PR, so I'm being a baby about picking one with cool temps. I guess it's because a marathon takes you out for many weeks (taper + recovery) so I don't want to waste the training time for Houston unless I know I'll do well.

JG - you would have a sick marathon time with a few months of 60 mile weeks! Do it!

From seeaprilrun on Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 19:59:55 from 174.70.177.86

Glad you didnt' get hit Joe. My options on dirt roads are get in the ditch with the snakes or get all up in somebody's wheat field.

From flatlander on Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 10:41:47 from 76.31.26.153

I think you are right about trying to PR every race. Enough can go wrong anyway without entering not in a position to do your best.

From SlowJoe on Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 18:22:38 from 75.109.104.60

April - yeah pick your poison, right? This was on the highway that connects me to my favorite dirt roads.

Flat - definitely. Maybe we'll get luck and get a cool October.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
17.000.0017.00

78F start, 80F finish, S 14-21 mph.  Direct sun for the last 9-10 miles made it a tough one, kind of an oven effect out there.

7:58 AP -- 8:14 pace out (+250 ft) and 7:42 pace back home (-250 ft).  Probably an even effort given the elevation change.  I ran the hilliest route I could find out here which is mostly dirt roads, so a nice challenge.

1140s #3 Miles: 17.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From JG on Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 12:21:59 from 98.66.250.214

Great run, good job! I could never do that in that temp with direct sun ... You are running really strong!!

From Steam8 on Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 21:58:15 from 166.70.55.77

I don't know how you do it! I am a wimp!! I ran 8 in hot sun (not as hot as you)..it was so tough and I wasn't running miles in the teens! Nice work!!! When is your next race?

From I Just Run on Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 00:17:40 from 71.41.149.142

Ha ha...I ran about the same distance and in similar heat (maybe more humidity) but my results are somewhat embarrassing compared to Joe's. Nice run Joe...You're an animal!

From SlowJoe on Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 10:24:24 from 132.3.53.68

JG - thanks, you can get used to anything i guess

S8 - not sure about the next race, maybe not anything until late September -- there's a local 10K I'd like to run. In Texas we sorta hibernate in the summer like y'all do in winter.

IJR - I can guarantee my HR was a lot higher than yours though!

From Tracy on Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 14:53:58 from 173.24.38.54

You love punishing yourself, don't you! Good pace in those conditions!

From seeaprilrun on Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 18:39:19 from 174.70.177.86

Very nice in the heat! This sounds eerily like my Saturday morning run.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

80F, SW 9-17 mph.  8:54 AP.  My schedule has moved around a bit - I'm taking Saturdays off to give Danielle the full morning for a long run.  Now my running week starts on Sunday (which makes it match up with the blog week) and the long run is the first run in my 6-day block.  Anyway, I expect some easy Mondays now!

1150s Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 10:33:14 from 67.79.11.242

Ahhh...but even Monday won't be "easy" in the heat. Glad the see you run at my pace every once in a while :-)

From JG on Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 11:06:09 from 98.66.250.214

How funny we both mentioned the blog starting on Sundays within an hour of each other, I had not read your report yet! I considered starting my weeks Sundays, problem is when you look at the weekly graph, it puts your Sunday run in last week, where it belongs. I keep a brief handwritten journal too, which starts on Monday, so I look at that to track my total mileage during the week, & then that is what is reflected in the weekly graph chart.

From SlowJoe on Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 11:32:47 from 132.3.53.68

IJR - you're right, "easy" was probably a poor choice of words!

JG - funny -- yeah I track the weekly totals separately too, to make sure I'm not doing anything stupid. Since I run 6 days a week, I just use whatever encompasses the 6-day block. But I agree with you that a Monday thru Sunday week makes more sense.

From DaleG on Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 12:41:19 from 76.27.13.205

Nice runs yesterday and today. I like to do my long runs on Sunday.

From seeaprilrun on Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 18:40:46 from 174.70.177.86

Nice Monday run. That is my kind of recovery pace. No need to strain in the heat. I longingly await fall temps, but won't be holding my breath...

From SlowJoe on Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 12:02:52 from 132.3.53.68

Dale - Seems like the roads are really quiet on Sunday.

April - yeah I think it'll be awhile...I see more 9:00 pace in our futures

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.801.258.05

80F, low wind, direct sun.  7:50 avg.  Went a little longer in the Kinvaras today - they still feel good.  I made a pathetic attempt at a couple tempo-paced miles on the way home, and pulled the plug pretty early in the second mile.  Some of the reason was laziness but it was tough to get going, maybe too hot for me to do any speed.  I am starting to think this is not even a heat wave anymore; it might just be the new reality for the next couple of months.  I'm still focused on base-building anyway, but I hate to see myself get lazy and never push myself.

Kinvaras Miles: 8.05
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Burt on Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 11:31:15 from 206.19.214.144

I'm thinking it might be hotter over there than it is here.

From I Just Run on Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 11:49:17 from 67.79.11.242

Or maybe we're a bunch of wooses here in Texas...Sorry Joe, maybe I'm only speaking for myself :-)

From SlowJoe on Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 11:57:57 from 132.3.53.68

Burt - you got me curious so I checked, but I think you still win for Most Miserable Summer on the blog. I think Mike and I mighta had the title last year though.

IJR - Not just you, my entry today could be titled "Wuss."

From I Just Run on Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 12:01:43 from 67.79.11.242

I was wondering what the right spelling of that word was. I may have to be using it a lot in the next few months

:-)

From Burt on Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 12:15:45 from 206.19.214.144

You and Mike are awesome. America thanks you. Except the hippies.

From I Just Run on Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 12:54:02 from 67.79.11.242

Who the heck is Mike?

From JG on Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 13:51:15 from 98.66.250.214

There is little in your training log that resembles laziness! Good run as always!!

From Burt on Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 14:32:27 from 206.19.214.144

Blasphemy! Mike is on Joe's Favorite's List. Check him out. He's quite possibly the most awesome blogger EVER!

From I Just Run on Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 14:48:34 from 67.79.11.242

Ya know.... I'm going to open my mouth and get kicked off the Blog one of these days...!!!! That MIKE...I should have known :-)

From Steam8 on Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 15:07:47 from 166.70.55.77

All I saw last week were cow patties! I was always jumping around to avoid them. I love small towns and wished I lived in one. I like running along side cows and horses.

You are probably still recovering from that 22 miler in the crazy Texas heat!

From seeaprilrun on Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 18:17:23 from 174.70.177.86

The heat is brutal for speed. I just don't see myself doing tempo work in temps over 85, or at 4:30 in the morning when the temps might be under 80, so I'm thinking it's just not the season for fast stuff. You could use the ...treadmill...every now and then if you wanted. I know..it defies my purist running spirit as well. Anyways, awesome pace in heat! It counts and it's doing wonders for your fitness even if it doesn't feel like it.

From Tracy on Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 18:39:00 from 173.24.38.54

I'm with JG; I don't think there's anything lazy about that run either!

From JG on Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 00:21:53 from 98.66.250.214

Joe, Can you please look into to the weather forecast for Jonas Ridge, NC for me on July 16? :)

From I Just Run on Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 00:40:31 from 166.205.13.122

Hey Joe,

Can you look into the weather for Effingham, Illinois for next week? I'm going to be there for a few days on vacation. Thanks...:-)

From Colby Park on Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 08:48:17 from 139.139.35.70

Hey Joe, I just read your 3hr Summer Solstice run...nice job given that heat...I can only imagine!

I would like to be put in for contention in the worst summer of the year. I don't think we'll win it here in Viceza, but we may get an honorable mention. 95-100 degrees with close to 100% humidity...no good!

From I Just Run on Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 10:03:31 from 67.79.11.242

Hi Colby,

I think it was last year we had 65-70 days over 100 degrees and the humidity is alway high here in central Texas ... I don't think you stand a chance. Joe has the heat but the humidity is typically a lot less.

From SlowJoe on Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 10:51:24 from 132.3.53.68

IJR - Mike was actually the first blogger I ever met in real life...in Iraq of all places.

JG - thanks, I still feel slow and lazy when I run though. As far as your weather, I refer you to weather.com when you're 10 days out!

S8 - you would like running here - the couws are tough, they really stare you down.

April - I'm hoping you're right and I don't get too soft running 8 minute miles all summer. At least you are getting in some awesome TM workouts (can't make myself go there).

Tracy - thanks, I guess just running consistently is not too bad a feat.

Colby - You are definitely in contention with that humidity thrown in....yuck! The summer solstice thing was memorable, for sure.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
13.000.0013.00

79F, S 10 mph.  8:05 avg pace.  Really tired and slow to start out, but mostly high 7's on the way back.  Just some good slog-it-out miles...

Danielle and I just finished week 2 of Insanity last night (it only took 3 weeks), and it was a tough one -- Pure Cardio + Cardio Abs.  We'll get through the program eventually!

1140s #3 Miles: 13.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Steam8 on Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 10:41:53 from 166.70.55.77

I need some of your motivation. I am feeling like I want to be a couch potato lately! I wish I ran 13 today! Nice run!

From Tracy on Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 11:08:57 from 173.24.38.54

I can't imagine running AND doing Insanity! You're insane!

From I Just Run on Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 11:24:13 from 67.79.11.242

Wow Joe...You just keep "slogging" out the miles. What's your plan for a base milage through the summer?

From SlowJoe on Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 11:57:30 from 132.3.53.68

S8 - I was a real couch potato for 12 years, believe me, you're not a couch potato!

Tracy - Danielle is making me do it! Well, not really, but we both probably kinda feel obliged not to just sit around while the other furously sweats for 40-45 minutes.

IJR - I'm hoping to level out at 70 in August, then in September I'll start an 18-week Pfitzinger plan (from his book) for Houston. I slightly modified it to peak at 75.

From I Just Run on Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 12:00:19 from 67.79.11.242

Ahhh...I shouldn't have asked. Now I'm going to start thinking about that kind of milage!

From flatlander on Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 12:16:29 from 198.207.244.102

Long and hard miles, good job, you are really picking it up.

From DaleG on Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 14:48:43 from 76.27.13.205

You are putting in some long miles every day. Impressive.

From seeaprilrun on Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 18:15:08 from 174.70.177.86

Nice! Insanity on top of running has got to be doing something for your fitness..I imagine it would build power and speed!

From Kelli on Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 22:56:46 from 71.219.92.225

ABS of steel!!!

Nice run today! You should be tired to start out, doesn't it take like 10 miles to warm-up?

From Burt on Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 01:07:16 from 72.223.90.79

Tony Horton could kick Shaun T's butt.

From SlowJoe on Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 09:13:43 from 75.109.104.60

IJR - I think as long as you build slowly and give attention to any injuries, why not? I'm adding a whopping 1 mile per week.

Flat/Dale - thanks

April - tough to tell yet, but that is the hope.

Kelli - oh yeah, that's what the problem was!

Burt - No way man, no way.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

79F, S 10 mph.  8:47 AP.

Danielle found this article about the last race I was in, been meaning to post it...  Also, some good news - she was accepted in the Houston lotto, so we will both be doing the full in January.  Good stuff.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From derhammer on Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 09:40:32 from 70.113.125.159

Nice article - must feel great to have your name as first place winner.

The picture of the Maniacs - there were a lot of them at the Iowa marathon. They scare me a bit. :-)

From Rye on Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 10:06:09 from 174.27.65.237

Nice joe... Hope the training continues to go well. I can't figure out how you guys train in that heat. I take my running shoes off to you!

From Tracy on Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 10:11:45 from 173.24.38.54

Cool article! Glad Danielle got in!

From DaleG on Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 13:51:28 from 76.27.13.205

Very cool on the article and for both of you getting into Houston. Is that where the Olympic Marathon Trials will be held?

From SlowJoe on Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 14:00:35 from 132.3.53.68

DH - the really scary thing is I bet at least half those Maniacs had a Saturday morning marathon somewhere, a few hours later...

Rye - thanks, hope you are able to keep those running shoes on!

Thanks Tracy, should be fun.

DG - yeah the trials are the day before. My parents live a mile off the route, so should be cool to catch a glimpse.

From flatlander on Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 15:39:27 from 198.207.244.102

Great news that you are both in, congratulations again on the win, that is a nice article.

From JG on Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 16:50:40 from 74.190.51.252

Cool article, couple of rabbit/turtle race story lines in there, way to finish strong & not have that be the case in your race! Congrats to Danielle, cool you guys will be in that on together!! Nice 6 miles too! :)

From seeaprilrun on Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 18:59:00 from 174.70.177.86

Awesome you got some press Joe!

From SlowJoe on Fri, Jul 01, 2011 at 16:19:35 from 75.109.104.60

Thanks Flat

JG - I noticed that most faded pretty hard, the slow starting pace was definitely the key

April - yes - I'm kind of a big deal..

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
12.003.0015.00

77F, low wind.  7:47 avg.  I didn't do this on purpose, but it ended up being a perfect progressive run with each mile faster than the last.  Well, the fast finish in the last few miles was on purpose, because I felt pretty good today.

8:43, 8:16, 8:15, 8:12, 8:10, 8:09, 7:58, 7:57, 7:48, 7:33, 7:32, 7:23, 7:09, 7:02, 6:41.

1150s Miles: 15.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Steam8 on Fri, Jul 01, 2011 at 10:42:07 from 166.70.55.77

Whoa! Nice run!! I can't believe you already ran 15 today!

It is 8 and I am still in my pjs. My nephew that I run with was up until 3am and told me he couldn't run until 10 today so that he could get some sleep. That means running in 90 degree heat! ugh! I wish we could trade places because I wish my run was done. Jealous! I wish I could run 15 in that time!

From Steam8 on Fri, Jul 01, 2011 at 10:44:05 from 166.70.55.77

Oh...and SlowJoe...you aren't slow!

From Tracy on Fri, Jul 01, 2011 at 11:19:58 from 173.24.38.54

Fantastic miles! I love the end of a good run--there's something about a good run that always makes me want to pick up the pace too. And looks like you got some good weather for it!

From Burt on Fri, Jul 01, 2011 at 11:30:13 from 206.19.214.144

Some of those miles were just 1 second faster than the previous ones. I'll chalk that up to luck. Great run though. Glad Steam8 didn't run with you. From what I hear, she's going to be sweaty and stinky today.

From JG on Fri, Jul 01, 2011 at 11:56:58 from 74.190.51.252

Awesome job as usual Joe, those are some kickin last 3 miles, you are definitely seeing some dividends come from you hard work! I would not want to be lined up next to you at the Houston marathon! I would be trembling in my shoes!! :)

From I Just Run on Fri, Jul 01, 2011 at 16:17:15 from 166.137.141.78

Holy smoking Joe... what are you eating and drinking up there in Abilene? I'll have a run and feel pretty good about it until I look at your daily report! Would you be my trainer? I'm with Steam you've got to change your name and I'm going to change mine to "I wanta run like Joe".

From Steam8 on Fri, Jul 01, 2011 at 18:34:11 from 166.70.55.77

Burty...I could have put the zoo smell to shame today after my run!!

I Just Run...that is funny! I need to change my name too. No Steam! :(

From flatlander on Fri, Jul 01, 2011 at 18:35:05 from 198.207.244.102

I was thinking this morning, the biggest guy in the biker gang is always called "Tiny". That's why we call this guy SlowJoe.

From seeaprilrun on Fri, Jul 01, 2011 at 19:36:25 from 174.70.177.86

Nice progressive run! It's always good when a run shapes up to feel good!

From I Just Run on Fri, Jul 01, 2011 at 19:36:46 from 166.137.143.32

You're right Flat...I stand corrected :-)

From SlowJoe on Sat, Jul 02, 2011 at 10:39:16 from 75.109.104.60

thanks all!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
15.000.0015.00

78F, low wind.  7:59 AP.  Ran to the city dump and back.  Nothin fancy...

1150s Miles: 15.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Sun, Jul 03, 2011 at 18:25:56 from 173.24.140.194

Low wind...that's unheard of in Abilene! Hopefully the low wind was blowing the stink away from you as you ran to the dump :-) It's funny, every time I post I look at your run and realize you've typically run a mile or so further and a minute or so faster than me...but don't look back, I'm after you! ;-}

Good run again..!

From DaleG on Mon, Jul 04, 2011 at 02:00:20 from 108.122.118.61

Prisons, dumps and sewage treatment plants. You need some new routes.

Another nice run under your belt.

From Burt on Mon, Jul 04, 2011 at 11:11:48 from 72.223.90.99

Do you live in the armpit of Texas?

From SlowJoe on Mon, Jul 04, 2011 at 12:52:31 from 75.109.104.60

IJR - yeah the wind has really died down, but thanksfully there was enough prevailing wind to keep the landfill smell to the north of my route.

DG - not much scenery around here unfortunately...

Burt - one of the armpits, yes

From Steam8 on Mon, Jul 04, 2011 at 17:52:55 from 166.70.55.77

Running to the dump must have been a real treat! haha! Do you have a million seagulls flying around the dump like we do here? If so, I am sure it was quite a workout dodging all of the bird turds!

From seeaprilrun on Mon, Jul 04, 2011 at 18:49:49 from 174.70.177.86

To the dump huh. Glad you have nice scenic routes for your runs.

From SlowJoe on Mon, Jul 04, 2011 at 21:49:45 from 75.109.104.60

S8 - the birds save their turds for my truck...I'm starting to forget what its original color was.

April - yep, one of our many hidden gems. I actually thought I was going on a new route, but then it started to look familiar and I realized I'd driven down the road before when I saw the entrance to the dump.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.000.005.00

79F, SW 10 mph.  8:44 avg.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 5.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Rye on Tue, Jul 05, 2011 at 10:05:44 from 174.27.65.237

Does the wind ever stop over in Abilene? Good job plowing through your training. Whats next with your running.....races?

From SlowJoe on Tue, Jul 05, 2011 at 10:45:51 from 132.3.53.68

It has actually died down quite a bit the past few weeks, whch I think is typical for the sumemr here. My next planned race isn't until late September, a local 10K. Then a HM in November and the full in January. Maybe some 5Ks sprinkled in at random.

From Steam8 on Tue, Jul 05, 2011 at 10:50:26 from 166.70.55.77

I think you sent your wind up here! Thanks a lot! ha!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
9.500.5010.00

78F.  Longest run with the Kinvaras so far - they are still feeling pretty good but I'm taking it slow just in case.  Aerobic base miles today with 8 x 100m-ish strides on the way home.  7:53 avg for the run.

I finished reading Advanced Marathoning by Pfitzinger.  It's the first actual book I've read in awhile, and had lots of good info.  Really filled some knowledge gaps I had about marathon training, and running in general.  Highly recommend it.  I'll be doing an 18-week training plan for Houston, starting in September, from this book as well.  I'm looking forward to actually having some direction for my training.

Kinvaras Miles: 10.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From flatlander on Tue, Jul 05, 2011 at 14:31:59 from 198.207.244.102

Good run, I have heard a lot of good things about that book, haven't read it yet though.

From derhammer on Tue, Jul 05, 2011 at 17:41:51 from 192.156.110.34

Joe - it's a great book. I've read both 1st and 2nd editions and refer to it often. Of course, as you know, the plans are generic so do be afraid to experiment or mix things up. For me I had to add more repeat workouts since he only has a few during the last weeks. The weekly medium long run has been a staple though, as well as the hard easy principle. In the end though, the base plans are really good and I don't think you can go wrong. Good luck!

From seeaprilrun on Tue, Jul 05, 2011 at 18:25:54 from 174.70.177.86

I really need to check one of those books out. Direction is always good to have--although obviously you have already been doing something right. Sub-3 at Houston, right?

From Kelli on Tue, Jul 05, 2011 at 23:35:43 from 71.219.92.225

I do like that book, I just suck at following any kind of plan. I march to my own beat! BUT I did like the plans!!!!

From SlowJoe on Wed, Jul 06, 2011 at 14:35:27 from 132.3.53.68

Flat - it's the only running book I've read, but what they say makes sense to me.

DH - thanks for the info, I will definitely look into adding in some of the LI/MI/SI.

April - sub-3 seems so far off right now (so does 3:05 for that matter) but I remember how impossible 3:30 seemed last summer...gives me some hope.

Kelli - I think I'm the opposite. I need a schedule to force me into doing tougher workouts sometimes or I'll do what I'm doing this summer and just run whatever I feel like (which means very few workouts!) Although I'm sure that is ok too.

From Kelli on Wed, Jul 06, 2011 at 14:47:47 from 71.219.69.64

My schedule is this: I MUST GO RUN. From there, I am a mess. Actually, the past 3 years I have faithfully been to a running group 2 days a week and they did the planning which was nice! I am going to start going back, having someone force to me work hard is a good thing so I hear ya!

From SlowJoe on Wed, Jul 06, 2011 at 14:52:25 from 132.3.53.68

Yeah I bet the running group helps. My workout planning usually takes place about mile 3 or 4 and consists of me trying to convince myself to pick up the pace and do a few tempo miles on the way home. I usually lose the argument.

From Kelli on Wed, Jul 06, 2011 at 14:56:14 from 71.219.69.64

I guess a PLAN is good! I plan what I am going to eat when I get home while I am running!

From seeaprilrun on Wed, Jul 06, 2011 at 18:25:27 from 174.70.177.86

Kelli! That's my running plan--the what to eat at home part....

From Kelli on Wed, Jul 06, 2011 at 22:29:48 from 71.219.69.64

Yes, April, but you have lost the weight! Obviously you plan fruits and veggies, I plan ice cream and brownies!!!

hey, we had 80% humidity today. YUCK!!!!!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

78F.  8:46 AP.  I know every crack, piece of debris/roadkill and thorny bush sticking out on this route...looking forward to a little vacation - visiting family next week around Texas and Louisiana, and running in some different spots.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Rye on Wed, Jul 06, 2011 at 10:32:16 from 174.27.117.243

Road kill at those temps might smell rank. Maybe you should pack a shovel and garbage bags to break up the run. Nothing like cleaning up your neighborhood!

From Tracy on Wed, Jul 06, 2011 at 10:34:20 from 173.24.38.54

Have fun visiting and enjoy those new running routes!

From flatlander on Wed, Jul 06, 2011 at 20:36:43 from 198.207.244.102

Be careful what you say. The last time I said that to Wade I immediately caught my toe on a crack and went down. He enjoyed it more than me.

From SlowJoe on Thu, Jul 07, 2011 at 11:02:27 from 132.3.53.68

Rye - the manure smell balances out the dead skunk smell.

Tracy - will do!

Flat - I remember that story now...Think I'll shut up.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
9.056.0015.05

79F.  7:47 avg.  I convinced myself to get in a workout today - 6 heat-adjusted, tempo-paced miles.  To seal the deal in this self-arbitration proceeding (which took place during my warmup), I offered a 1-minute jog between each mile.  So the workout was first 8 miles easy, then 6 x 1-mile with 60 sec jog in between.  Then cool down whatever was left.

EZ 8 -- 8:10 AP

tempo 6 -- 7:09 AP (7:15, 7:12, 7:12, 7:14, 7:07, 6:53).

The 1-minute jogs were around 8:20s for the pace.  I liked this workout.  One minute is obviously not enough to recover much, but it gives you something to look forward to.  It was hard enough that I was glad to be done but easy enough that I didn't want to quit running, which is the normal workout feeling for me.

This afternoon, I'm going in to get my free massage from winning a 5K awhile back.  I'm a little nervous that it might be from a dude, because they didn't say.  I know Danielle thinks I'm stupid, but I am going to try to be mature either way.

1140s #3 Miles: 15.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From seeaprilrun on Thu, Jul 07, 2011 at 17:31:59 from 174.70.177.86

LOL I'm sure you can handle it. Nice idea on the tempo miles in the heat--sounds like you did it just right!

From Steam8 on Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at 00:22:47 from 166.70.55.77

Convince yourself to do 15 and then don't really want to stop? haha! I am going to try to run 16 tomorrow and I have been trying to pump myself up all week!

How did the massage go? I have never had one. I think it would make me sick! haha! I don't think I would enjoy a stranger rubbing me down....but everyone seems to love them. I know, I am just strange!

From derhammer on Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at 10:36:01 from 192.156.110.34

Just don't turn the massage into a Seinfeld episode, either way. :-)

Nice mile repeats, BTW.

From SlowJoe on Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at 11:02:57 from 132.3.53.68

Don't worry everyone, it ended up being a lady - no George Costanza moment!

From JG on Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at 12:00:05 from 98.66.194.235

Great mileage this week! I had a massage earlier this Spring when I was having achilles issues ... it ended up being a guy & I told him just to focus on the calves, no need to go above the knee cap! lol

From Kelli on Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at 14:12:59 from 71.219.69.64

Your heat adjusted tempo is faster than my tempo tempo!!! NICE workout.

How was the massage??? I can not stand people touching me, so I hear ya! Hope it wasn't a dude. ;o)

From flatlander on Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at 19:03:04 from 76.31.26.153

Very nice run, this way you can run slow with us in the morning and not feel like you wasted the week. My wife got a massage once from a guy she named Sven. She has been talking about it for years.

From SlowJoe on Sat, Jul 09, 2011 at 18:40:56 from 98.201.152.210

Thanks JG, I think I woulda done the same.

Kelli - whatever, I've seen your marathon PR (which was in the heat if I remember correctly)! Massage was ok, not a dude so I was able to relax.

Flat - this massage wasn't so memorable, but at least it wasn't from Sven.

From Kelli on Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 13:44:57 from 71.219.100.205

Those PR's last year were not really me, you will see. It was a fluke! Yes, in the heat, and, yes, made me puke.

Glad the massage went well. They scare me, i have only given in and had one (after the 50 miler) and it was miserable.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
16.820.0016.82

79F, 85% humidity (in Houston).  8:51 avg.  Great run in a thick, warm Houston morning with FRB legend Flatlander.  Tough conditions, but we had a good time and the miles actually flew by pretty fast, it seemed.  Thanks Mark.

Got back and took the kids to a fun (free) park downtown before it got even hotter.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 16.82
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From seeaprilrun on Sat, Jul 09, 2011 at 23:07:39 from 174.70.177.86

Sounds like an awesomely good time(for a hot run). Have fun in Houston! I love that place!

From flatlander on Sat, Jul 09, 2011 at 23:17:49 from 76.31.26.153

Thanks for the company today, that would have been a tough one to do alone. Good luck with the rest of your trip, and may you have faster runs ahead of you.

From Rye on Sat, Jul 09, 2011 at 23:21:53 from 174.27.117.243

Glad you two got together. Misery loves company huh. Good or should I say great miles this week.

From Burt on Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 01:45:20 from 72.223.90.99

Nice Joe. Your list of bloggers you've met in real life is really growing.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.000.005.00

92F. Got a late start, so this was a slow, short run in the heat.

1140s #3 Miles: 5.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Burt on Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 14:40:24 from 206.19.214.144

I'm glad I'm not the only one running in the heat lately. Wait, I'm hardly running.

From Rye on Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 15:07:04 from 71.209.23.251

Sounds like our winters here in Idaho are like your summers in Texas... just trying to keep your base up... How much fluid do you lose on your runs?

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
14.420.0014.42

79F, 88% humidity.  Last run in Houston.  It was a pretty fun route - went all the way to downtown and back to Memorial Park staying on walking/jogging paths most of the way.  8:06 AP.  Longest run in the Kinvaras - felt good.

Got home, toweled off, and went with Dad to play 18 holes.  I haven't played in over a year and I really suck now, but managed to barely break a hundred (98) with a par on the final hole.  So I got in 14 miles and a round of golf before 11 am!  Now in Baton Rouge for a few days to visit more family.

Kinvaras Miles: 14.42
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Rye on Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 20:30:10 from 174.27.117.243

Wow. Nice Joe... The run not the round of golf!

From seeaprilrun on Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 08:32:38 from 174.70.177.86

Nice run and pace. You got some distance in there too!

From flatlander on Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 09:26:02 from 76.31.26.153

Wow, look how much faster you were in Memorial Park! I'm going to have to try running down there again.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.370.006.37

80F, 93% humidity (Baton Rouge).  8:42 avg.  Ran from the hotel, mostly in a very confusing neighborhood.  They must have planned it so no one ever wants to take a shortcut through it.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.37
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 11:42:51 from 67.79.11.242

Ha ha... I once got lost in a huge neighborhood in Amarillo when I first started running. I don't have a very good sense of direction and didn't have my phone or garmen for the GPS. I think all of Texas is brutal to run in these days.

From seeaprilrun on Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 14:42:27 from 174.70.177.86

The heat and humidity rage on, with no end in sight. It will be worth it. I keep saying it so I hope I'm right. I keep googling stuff to help support that theory. Glad you were safe...

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
13.620.0013.62

80F, 98% humidity.  8:20 AP.  I wanted to run to the LSU campus but our hotel was on the wrong side of I-10 so I drove to the other side and looked for a place to park.  Settled on the Jimmy Swaggart Bible College, which had an empty parking lot (insert joke here).  I should've scouted this route ahead of time because I spent a lot of time clomping through high, wet grass.  There were very few sidewalks until I got to the campus, and I was running during rush hour.  I did one loop around University Lake and headed back.  The 2-3 mile loop around the lake was the only nice part of the run.  More clomping through grass, etc on the way back.  The heat index was in the 90s by the time I finished thanks to the ridiculous humidity.  Kind of a miserable day, but it's done.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 13.62
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Steam8 on Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 10:46:00 from 166.70.55.77

Seriously! You are the man! I can't believe you ran 13+ in that heat and humidity! I always think of your 22 miler when I am out running and I think I am going to die of the heat and humidity! We are having 75% here and 80s and I have been a running sponge! ha!

LSU? Louisiana? What are you there for?

From I Just Run on Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 11:14:46 from 67.79.11.242

Wow...Joe, I can't keep up with you. It's amazing how far you've come since you started running. Did you wear your bathing suit and goggles on your run?

From Kelli on Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 14:48:22 from 71.219.75.108

HOLY HOT HUMIDITY....more H words. Way to tough it out, I just do not think I could take it. AND you have the speed as well. IMPRESSIVE, but you always are. ;o)

From flatlander on Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 15:35:38 from 198.207.244.102

Good run, sometimes you win on the road and sometimes the good route just never shows up. Like you say, it's done and in the books.

From seeaprilrun on Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 18:14:21 from 174.70.177.86

Way to suffer on. I like to come to your blog now and see your heat feats.

From SlowJoe on Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 21:15:03 from 66.137.82.63

S8 - thanks - we were in Baton Rouge visiting family...humidity was terrible!

IJR - Might as well have been swimming, the shorts, socks and shoes were drenched.

Kelli - too kind...I didn't feel so tough today, as I totally skipped my run, but the sleep was great

Flat - The town seemed to be the land-of-no-sidewalks-or-shoulders

April - I wilt pretty bad, but even worse in the humidity I think

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
17.000.0017.00

77F, 90%.  Longview, TX.  8:11 AP.  I ran a big loop to the east of town, lots of good hills.  It was still warm and muggy but I felt a lot better today after an impromptu day off yesterday.  Sped it up pretty good the last half mile, and felt really smooth and fast.  I'll probably take tomorrow off too, and try to get back on schedule and back to normal build-up mileage next week.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 17.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 10:59:01 from 67.79.11.242

Wow...17...That's good milage. I've been putting in some miles but don't feel like I could run 17 at a decent pace right now. 17 feels like your over the hump in a marathon, 13 just feels like you're getting started (to me anyway). Great run...again!

From flatlander on Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 16:04:11 from 198.207.244.102

56 in 4 days is amazing. Hope you had a good vacation, sounds like you have done the rounds.

From seeaprilrun on Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 17:26:21 from 174.70.177.86

I agree with flat--pretty good mileage if you ask me! Enjoy your well-deserved day off. Sounds like you are getting used to swim-running.

From Rye on Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 23:42:56 from 174.27.119.243

I guess you get use to running in that heat. Wow! Nice week of running. You are a stud!

From SlowJoe on Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 10:23:21 from 66.137.82.63

IJR - thanks, hoping these longer runs will be worth something later on...

Flat - yep, no family visits for awhile now...ahhh

April - yeah, I miss my nice dry heat in Abilene

Thanks Rye, used to it, but still hate it!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
12.003.0015.00

77F, 90%.  7:54 AP.  I'd been putting off this one workout (6 x 800, jog 400 between) for a long time.  I had various internal excuses - I was tired from Insanity, I forgot to set up the Garmin, it's too complicated, etc, but today they were gone.  I haven't done Insanity in over a week, and I ran on jogging trail that was accurately marked every quarter mile (so all I had to do was hit the lap button at the appropriate post).

So, I finally gave in.  First I did 10.5 easy to get some nice miles under me (and I wanted to set up so I didn't have a 180 turnaround in the middle of a repeat.  10.5 easy was 8:14/mile.  Then 6 x 0.5 mile (in bold) with 0.25 jog (in parenthesis).

3:18, (2:11), 3:12, (2:06), 3:16, (2:09), 3:13, (2:07), 3:10, (2:13), 2:52, (2:05).

The last quarter of that 2:52 was 1:18.5, I kinda let it fly the last little bit.  Averaged 6:20 pace for the repeats, just about 5k pace (although most were a bit slower).  We'll see how the achilles does - it was my longest run in the Kinvaras and had a lot of hills and speed.  If I make it through ok, I think these will be my marathon shoes (once I can test them in a 20-miler).

Kinvaras Miles: 15.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From seeaprilrun on Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 10:12:20 from 174.70.177.86

You and your 10 mile warm-ups. Nice 800s. That's cool the shoes are working out. Still planning on Houston being your next marathon?

From SlowJoe on Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 10:20:18 from 66.137.82.63

I'm kinda stealing the "big workout" idea that I've seen the fast people recommend on the boards where you get in the workout on tired legs. We'll see if it works!

I'm betting Houston will be the next full but I might go after a Fall marathon in TX at the last minute if I see some temperatures I like.

From flatlander on Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 18:39:42 from 76.31.26.153

Those are some really good 800s. I like going hard at the end of a run too, but it leaves me pretty tired for the next day.

From DaleG on Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 21:34:11 from 173.126.11.126

Nice speedwork after 10.5 miles. I haven't done speedwork for ages.

From DaleG on Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 21:34:56 from 173.126.11.126

I need to check your blog more often, I think it motivates me a little

From Dan on Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 22:50:14 from 24.209.83.20

Hey Joe- Nice workout, I am glad I looked, I was doing something very similar last year and planned and starting them this week. Oh, I like Kinvaras - they feel fine for 20+. How did you like Insanity? I am under the impression is makes my p90x look like sissy stuff :)

From TexasLindsey on Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 08:57:20 from 70.253.137.126

10.5 mile warm-up! I love it!

From SlowJoe on Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 12:00:56 from 132.3.53.68

Flat - same here, I was kind of in a rut though, so it felt nice to go a little

DG - I don't do much speed (which is probably why I was all over the place) but I'm always glad when (after) I do it.

Dan - good to see the shoes have worked for you too. I've never seen a P90X workout (heard it was tough too). My wife and I got the Insanity dvds on the cheap and there wasn't any equipment to buy, it's all using your own bodyweight and pretty fast-paced. Probably gonna start up again now that we're back from vacation...

TL - takes me awhile to wake up, you know?

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

76F, back in Abilene and a glorious 58% humidity.  I have a new respect for those of you suffering through the humidity, because it felt so nice and cool today.  8:46 avg.

1140s #3 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From flatlander on Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 14:16:56 from 198.207.244.102

Congrats on the escape.

From I Just Run on Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 16:21:51 from 67.79.11.242

I was able to run in low humidity the last three days on the treadmill :-)

From Stacy on Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 22:58:07 from 97.114.161.199

I will take some of your 76F and give you some of our 85%. What a deal! ;) Enjoy the "dry" air. It is amazing how cool it feels, even at 76 degrees.

From DaleG on Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 01:39:15 from 76.27.13.205

That weather sounds nice, except for the humidity. It's just plain hot here in the desert of northern Utah.

From SlowJoe on Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 10:26:48 from 132.3.53.68

Flat - I'll send for help, stay strong down there.

IJR - where there's a will, there's a way

Stacy - I'm still a little wary of trading weather with ND right now..

DG - Abilene is not quite desert, and not quite Plains, kind of a weird mix

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
11.070.0011.07

AM - 81F, warm morning.  6 miles, 8:45 AP, with more to come this evening.  Pfitz says to break recovery days into doubles if you're doing more than 8 miles that day so I will give it a try, as much as I don't want to do doubles....ever.  My typical week for the rest of the summer will have 3 MLRs and 3 recovery days, with Tuesday probably getting broken into 2 recovery runs.

PM - 101F, ESE 15-23 mph.  I waited until after dinner to run so it could cool off outside...  5 miles and change, also at an 8:45 AP.

1150s Miles: 11.07
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From derhammer on Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 18:10:57 from 192.156.110.33

Doubles wore me out but I liked them. For me there was not any other way to get to the weekly mileage I wanted without doing doubles.

From seeaprilrun on Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 18:31:46 from 174.70.177.86

I liked doubles when I did them too--same reason, only real way to beef up mileage--but it's hard to squeeze them in and that's too many showers a day!

From Dan on Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 23:05:55 from 24.209.83.20

Yep, I'm with them- I eat a ton when I am doing doubles though. The hardest part is finding the time. Nice work Joe.

From SlowJoe on Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 09:57:14 from 132.3.53.68

DH - I'll only be doing 1/week on recovery days so I'm hoping they will have the opposite effect and help me recover.

April - yeah I thought about the shower thing, what a pain.

Dan - thanks, I definitely needed a 4th meal before bed.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
15.000.0015.00

77F, 69% humidity.  7:52 AP -- started in the 8:20s and progressed to 7:20s.  Pretty wiped out afterward, more so than I would've expected.

Found this article about training in the heat.  There was a study, albeit with cyclists, that showed heat-trained cyclists outperforming other cyclists who did the exact same workouts in cool conditions, even though the time trial was held in cool temperatures.  They don't really go into the science of it though.

1140s #3 Miles: 15.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Rye on Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 09:37:41 from 174.27.76.189

Interesting..... I know that when I run in temps in the upper 70's and higher I feel hammered. Nice run today.

From TexasLindsey on Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 10:20:08 from 70.253.137.126

Good run today! I saw that article too!

From Burt on Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 13:35:59 from 206.19.214.144

I know after I run 15 miles in any type of weather I feel hammered.

From I Just Run on Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 15:47:03 from 67.79.11.242

I know you say you were pretty wiped out after this run but overall 15 is becomming pretty standard for you...Way to go!

So are you thinking that Texans have a huge training advantage over other runners based on the article?

From Stacy on Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 17:14:37 from 67.7.76.211

Interesting study. I have noticed there are quite a few on the blog that are running in this heat and seem to handle it pretty well. Call me a wimp, but I have no desire. I admire you if you can do it. Nice run.

From TexasLindsey on Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 17:50:30 from 70.253.137.126

I think heat is like altitude... you get acclimated. Hoping it gives you an advantage is the only thing that keeps us going out the door!

From Dan on Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 20:22:39 from 24.209.83.20

Thanks for the link Joe- sure hope it helps me, I know what you mean about being wiped out (more so than expected). Nice 15.

Lindsey- you got that 100% correct, it keeps us going out the door!

From seeaprilrun on Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 23:17:12 from 205.172.12.229

Good! So this heat training is making us faster! Another long run..wow! You are really racking up the mileage.

From SlowJoe on Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 20:27:18 from 74.196.65.182

Rye - seemed a little more than the temps, but not too worried

TL - if you ever find out there's actually no advantage, don't tell the rest of us

Burt - I guess 15 miles is a long way...good point

IJR - it would certainly be nice if the study is valid

Stacy - not sure I have ever handled it well, I think I complain more than anyone, but thanks!

Dan - good days and bad, I'm trying to ignore the bad ones more often

April - as many miles as I can do without falling apart, that's the plan

From flatlander on Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 00:07:07 from 76.31.26.153

Thanks for the article, I am going to have to read it soon.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

81F.  9:08 AP

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From JG on Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 13:23:44 from 71.57.246.108

Nice follow up to your strong run yesterday!

From I Just Run on Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 15:24:20 from 67.79.11.242

What...That's all the detail....???

From Rye on Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 19:23:36 from 174.27.76.189

Something must have happened on that run ...... I am on pins and needles!

From SlowJoe on Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 20:50:33 from 74.196.65.182

no, no, just had an early morning and a long day ahead...barely had enough time to post that. Let me think awhile and I'll invent a nice story though.

From seeaprilrun on Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 21:45:14 from 174.70.177.86

I can read the details. It was early, it was hot, it was super humid that early, and that's all your body mustered up. Been there. Nice run!

From SlowJoe on Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 12:44:11 from 132.3.53.68

April...nailed it

From I Just Run on Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 12:54:23 from 67.79.11.242

Thanks April..now I feel much better :-)

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
15.000.0015.00

80F, S 12 mph.  8:02 avg.  More slog-it-out miles to finish my running week.  Definitely need this day off on Saturday!

Kinvaras Miles: 15.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 10:56:42 from 67.79.11.242

Yeah...mine were the same, just slower! I still need to run tomorrow :-)

From JG on Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 12:49:12 from 71.57.246.108

Great week, I dont know how you do that mileage in this heat! Kudos to you!! I am at least back to getting my 4 & 5 milers in ... which does not seem like much when I look at your blog!

From Kelli on Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 19:09:01 from 71.219.99.3

You are sloggin' along cause of all the sweat in your shoes. I do not know how you people do it!

Enjoy the rest.

From seeaprilrun on Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 08:15:59 from 174.70.177.86

Impressive slogging. 15 milers twice in 3 days! Nice miles. Enjoy the day off!

From SlowJoe on Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 15:11:39 from 75.109.104.60

IJR - I need to have the word "slog" in my blog title because that's about all I do these days.

JG - thanks, if there's no payoff when it cools off, I quit.

Kelli - so that's what that squishing sound was...

April - thanks, will do

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.754.2513.00

80F, S 11 mph.  I got an article from JG that inspired me to hit up the track at ACU this morning.  It was time to get out of slog-mode, if only for a day.  Had a pretty rough start though.  I thought I had taken care of business this morning before my run, but I found myself having to stop and walk a few times during my warmup to prevent disaster.  Everything was looking like a port-o-potty, but kinda like a mirage in the desert, nothing ever proved to be what I needed.  Finally I reached the track and after a lap, not seeing a bathroom, decided I would start and hope I could fend it off.

My planned workout was a ladder: 200-400-800-1200-1600-1200-800-400-200.  I jogged half the distance after each one, except the first 200, after which I jogged a full 200m.  Felt like the sane thing to do.  I made it through the first 3 ok, but in the first 1200 I had to pull up and walk again to defend against you-know-what.  Jogged a lap to collect myself, then started again and had to stop again after about 20 seconds.  Getting desperate now, I jogged around the facility, looking everywhere until I found the bathrooms, which had a locked gate around them.  Fortunately I noticed a "secret passageway" between buildings where they stashed hurdles.  I went around, climbed over them, and I was in!  I came out a new man, and finished the rest.

200m - 41.2 (5:31 pace)

200m rest - 8:21 pace

400m - 1:33.3 (6:15 pace)

200m rest - 8:16 pace

800m - 3:11.9 (6:26 pace)

400m rest - 8:24 pace

*************POP BREAK****************

1200m - 4:48 (6:26 pace)

600m rest - 8:33 pace

1600m - 6:20 (6:22 pace)

800m rest - 8:29 pace

1200m - 4:49 (6:27 pace)

600m rest - 8:50 pace

800m - 3:04.6 (6:11 pace)

400m rest - 8:45 pace

400m - 1:26.0 (5:46 pace)

200m rest - 9:14 pace

200m - 34.6 (4:38 pace)

After the last one, I walked for about 10-15 seconds to collect myself again and jogged slowly home.  I wasn't sure what paces to run on any of these so I just did whatever felt smooth.  Kinda looks like they are all over the place but that is pretty normal for me and speedwork.  The track is oriented north-south so I had a nice headwind on one of the straightaways; it wasn't terrible wind, but it was there, affecting things a little.  The important thing is I got in 4+ miles of (what I consider) faster speeds (averaging roughly 6:16/mile if you take just the fast stuff).  AP 7:47 for all 13 miles.

Kinvaras Miles: 13.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From JG on Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 10:44:00 from 71.57.246.108

Great speedwork Joe & overall pace & overall distance ... especially considering your challenges! I seldom get over 5 or 6 miles total in on speed work, so you got some great distance training in too! Good job!!

It si tough to project the right pace, especially when you are doing a ladder ... but if you do one distance ... like 800's, they say you should try to keep a consistent pace, where you are really struggling on the last couple. I really think if you could crank out one of these workouts a week, you will find yourself getting faster & your marathon pace will seem a little easier as you progress.

From Steam8 on Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 18:51:35 from 166.70.55.77

AHAHAHAHAAAA! Made me laugh so hard! Been there! Great run though!

From Dan on Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 23:31:51 from 24.209.83.20

Nice speed work Joe- I may steal that one and add it to my week since I feel like I am slipping in my training. Oh and I also agree with what Steamy said!!! :p

From I Just Run on Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:05:34 from 67.79.11.242

Sometimes...too much detail...? Still, it made me laugh (sorry..at your expense :-). Sounds like a good workout. I too need to add some speed to my workouts.

From flatlander on Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 11:04:12 from 198.207.244.102

Fantastic workout, including the steeplechase! The speed on the last 200 is astounding.

From SlowJoe on Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 12:26:48 from 74.196.65.182

JG - thanks, gonna try to do stuff like this more often now that I'm close to leveling out my mileage for awhile.

S8 - thanks, toilet humor never fails

Dan - With the mileage you're running plus the heat, I think you're probably fine but it did feel good to stride it out a little for once.

IJR - nah, too much detail would have been a few sentences about my time in the bathroom.

Flat - thanks, I was close to {earmuffs, IJR} puking after that last 200 so I think the effort was about right.

From seeaprilrun on Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 22:09:20 from 205.172.12.229

Wow! I just saw this! Incredible speed workout and check out that East African speed on the final 200! I am totally impressed--and you pulled this off in 81 degrees! Dang! I wanted to puke just reading this...and I can't believe you started this without taking care of business lol!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
9.000.009.00

81F.  Ran at a moderate 7:55 avg pace.  Normally I'd do a recovery run after a workout like yesterday's, but I'm having a...minor procedure done this afternoon (not running related) that will probably take me out for the rest of the week.  So I kept a solid pace today since I'll have plenty of rest coming up.

1150s Miles: 9.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From seeaprilrun on Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 22:10:20 from 205.172.12.229

Hm. Sounds like a minor procedure my husband had a few years ago that took him out for about...3 days. Good luck with that.

From Dan on Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 23:02:15 from 24.209.83.20

Hope you are back at it in no time! Don't rush it, heal right!

From JG on Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 12:37:15 from 71.57.246.108

Nice run Joe, you have a couple solid months of solid base building, a couple days rest will be good for you.

From flatlander on Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 13:25:21 from 198.207.244.102

Take it easy, hope everything is uneventful.

From Burt on Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 13:30:20 from 206.19.214.144

Vasectomy.

There I said it for you.

From Rye on Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 14:45:32 from 71.209.52.51

Don't sit in a float tube. Two weeks and a painful infection....... It looked like I had 4 instead of 2.

From I Just Run on Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 15:02:40 from 67.79.11.242

I'm aspiring to run "moderatly" at a 7:55 pace ;-)

Don't worry, that procedure isn't too bad...!

From seeaprilrun on Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 17:24:15 from 174.70.177.86

I watched my husband get his. In fact, the surgeon waved me over for a closer look. Hope the ride home in the car wasn't too bad...take a lortab first. We live on a dirt road...that was a bummer.

From I Just Run on Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 17:38:13 from 67.79.11.242

April....Did I sense a little chuckle after you wrote "the surgeon waved me over for a closer look"? Now that's not nice ;-)

From seeaprilrun on Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 17:52:30 from 174.70.177.86

IJR--yes, a little chuckle. He really DID wave me over though! I was sitting politely in a chair against the wall and he had me come and stand right there over my husband and he talked about everything he was doing. I practically assisted...I'm thinking I was all up in the sterile field haha.

From I Just Run on Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 18:18:35 from 67.79.11.242

Ha ha...

I can just imaging:

Doctor: April, come over and I'll show you what I'm doing.

April: Oh, wow...can I hold that tool?

Doctor: Sure but be careful it might cause some pain.

April: (Smiles) Really....?

Doctor: Wait....!!!

Husband: Oooooo...!!!!!!!

April: Thanks Doctor, now I've got his attention! You can have the tool back

:-)

From seeaprilrun on Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 18:21:18 from 174.70.177.86

Hahaha!!!

From JG on Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 23:01:56 from 71.57.246.108

How do you guys know he wasn't just getting a toe nail removed?! :)

From Dan on Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 23:14:51 from 24.209.83.20

I'm just enjoying the IJR and april banter :)

From DaleG on Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 23:22:30 from 152.216.11.5

I'm too chicken to have it done.

Get well, soon.

From I Just Run on Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 10:28:27 from 67.79.11.242

JG...You know he's looking at his Blog and if it wasn't so, he'd say something! LOL...I have a right to :-(

From SlowJoe on Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 12:00:39 from 74.196.65.182

I knew I shouldn't have put the "..." before "minor procedure." Is that what gave it away?

April - I see you also have a loving, generous and brave husband.

Rye - that sounds....horrible

IJR - hah - thanks for the humor

Everyone else - thanks for the well wishes, it isn't as bad as I'd imagined.

From I Just Run on Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 12:14:34 from 67.79.11.242

So...Apparently your wife didn't get her hands on the tool :-)

From SlowJoe on Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 12:29:33 from 74.196.65.182

Maybe next week

From I Just Run on Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 13:14:21 from 67.79.11.242

LOL

From Burt on Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 13:19:03 from 206.19.214.144

If it helps, you can read all about my experience here:

http://burt-mccumber.fastrunningblog.com/blog-got-neutered-today-/06-28-2008.html

From seeaprilrun on Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 14:36:32 from 174.70.177.86

snicker

From seeaprilrun on Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 11:42:49 from 174.70.177.86

How's it hanging Joe? I mean...how are you doing, er...

From I Just Run on Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 12:02:59 from 67.79.11.242

Hey April...Maybe you should ask SlowJoe's Girl that question...LOL

From Steam8 on Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 12:16:12 from 166.70.55.77

Hahahaa! Hey, you only have 2 kids. That better not be the procedure! You might just have to have it undone.:)

From Burt on Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 12:38:06 from 206.19.214.144

Now he's definitely not allowed in Utah.

From Steam8 on Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 12:41:39 from 166.70.55.77

So true! I feel like a big slacker only having four! I am #8 of 8 in my fam! ha!

From I Just Run on Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 12:43:39 from 67.79.11.242

I think we like 2's here in Texas.. :-)

From SlowJoe on Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 15:01:43 from 75.109.104.60

April - I think I'm ready for my first run as half a man, but I'm gonna play it safe and wait until tomorrow before trying to jog a couple miles.

Burt - thanks for all the detail. I wonder how many comments you would get with that "neutered" post today versus 3 years ago...

S8 - don't know how you guys do it, once the kids outnumber the parents...scary

IJR - Some days, even 2 kids feels like a lot!

From Burt on Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 15:10:27 from 206.19.214.144

Yeah, I wasn't as outspoken about all the intimate details of my life back then as I am now.

From Dan on Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 00:00:38 from 24.209.83.20

Burt, what are you saying? I never hear you say anything even remotely inappropriate. Stay Classy :)

This thread makes me laugh.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
4.050.004.05

78F, 8:21 AP.  No pain or discomfort so I went 4 miles.  Best of all, now we can all stop commenting on Monday's entry.

1150s Miles: 4.05
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From seeaprilrun on Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 15:10:24 from 174.70.177.86

Glad your first post-op run went well.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
7.000.007.00

79F, S 12 mph.  8:11 avg.  Felt fine, so I will be ramping up to normal mileage pretty quickly.  I did feel a little out of shape though, but I'm sure that'll be erased in a couple workouts.

1150s Miles: 7.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Rye on Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 11:26:27 from 174.27.88.94

Are you kidding me??? Glad you are feeling fine. Have a great weekend!

From I Just Run on Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 13:02:29 from 71.41.149.142

Wow...what a fast come back...! I think mine is going to be a little longer, I'm still not able to run without pain.

From JG on Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 14:40:07 from 71.57.246.108

Nice run, keep easing back into it, you did not lose any fitness with a few days off!

From seeaprilrun on Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 20:15:52 from 174.70.177.86

Those few days off just probably left you nice and fresh! I bet you can pull off and great, normal training week next week!

From SlowJoe on Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 21:52:24 from 75.109.104.60

Rye - I think I got lucky...I've heard other horror stories...

IJR - sorry to hear that. No running muscles in the affected area for me, I guess

JG - Yeah I'll be back to normal in a day or two; even a single day off makes me sluggish sometimes. We can't all take a week off and run a 1:23 half!

April - the legs definitely want to run again - I'll change that....

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
10.000.0010.00

79F, 8:11 avg.

1150s Miles: 10.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From JG on Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 12:54:25 from 71.57.246.108

Nice start to the week! My body was feeling my mileage a little this morning, so I went short!

From DaleG on Mon, Aug 01, 2011 at 01:52:59 from 71.199.57.238

Nice job.

From SlowJoe on Mon, Aug 01, 2011 at 12:10:51 from 132.3.53.68

thanks guys

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.004.0012.00

78F.  It started out around 80 but dropped to a bone-chilling 76 by the end of the run.  Felt very cool.  The 10-day forecast looks especially heinous right now, so it was nice to get this one nice morning.

7:40 AP today.  6 slow miles going out and then picked up the pace coming back (7:26, 7:21, 7:10, 7:06, 7:01, 6:47) averaging 7:08 for the last 6.  Definitely good enough to call this my quality workout for the week.

Kinvaras Miles: 12.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From JG on Mon, Aug 01, 2011 at 11:04:35 from 71.57.246.108

Great run Joe with a strong finish! It got cooler as the run progressed in TX? That is a cool concept & a welcome surprise I am sure!

From SlowJoe on Mon, Aug 01, 2011 at 11:58:26 from 132.3.53.68

JG - got started a good deal before sunrise so the morning low ended up arriving during the tempo part...lucky timing!

From Burt on Mon, Aug 01, 2011 at 15:43:47 from 206.19.214.144

I'd call that quality.

From I Just Run on Mon, Aug 01, 2011 at 16:47:11 from 67.79.11.242

It was 74 here this morning and I sure wanted to go run in the cool weather! I think it's supposed to be 103+ for the next 8-10 days down here.

From Steam8 on Mon, Aug 01, 2011 at 21:15:04 from 166.70.55.77

NICE RUN! The bone chilling 76 probably helped your time today!

From Dan on Mon, Aug 01, 2011 at 23:23:11 from 24.209.83.20

Nice cool run, you said the forecast was heinous... were they calling for snow? Nice workout- finishing strong is always nice.

From Kelli on Tue, Aug 02, 2011 at 09:40:16 from 71.219.99.3

YIKES, I do not know how you guys do it. Seriously, I would pass out every day! Heat and e are not friends.

Great workout. I need to start going for quality over quantity!

From SlowJoe on Tue, Aug 02, 2011 at 12:12:48 from 132.3.53.68

Thanks Burt

IJR - yeah, looks about the same here, no relief anytime soon

S8 - that is a fact

Dan - yep, 3 inches of snow tonight, 6 tomorrow...unfortunately the forecasters here all went to Texas A&M

Kelli - my plan is 1 quality workout per week, that's about all I can take right now!

From seeaprilrun on Tue, Aug 02, 2011 at 13:02:41 from 174.70.177.86

Great tempo Joe! At 76 degrees it may be time to break out a parka.

From Kelli on Tue, Aug 02, 2011 at 14:01:10 from 71.219.99.3

Hey, you have me beat. Mine is more like 1 per month.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

82F.  8:44 avg.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
15.000.0015.00

83F.  8:05 AP.  Today was the day of dirty looks.  I don't see many people out and about where I run, but I passed a guy today who was tending to his goats, and gave him a wave.  His glare almost pierced right through me.  Then there were 2 people out for a walk (this a first on this particular road) and when I said good morning they gave me the most confused stare ever, and said nothing.  What's so strange about a guy running around in the middle of nowhere wearing a fuel belt, reflective belt, and no shirt anyway?  Weirdos.

1140s #3 Miles: 15.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Burt on Wed, Aug 03, 2011 at 11:49:12 from 206.19.214.144

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! People! Gotta love 'em!

From JG on Wed, Aug 03, 2011 at 19:21:30 from 71.57.246.108

Too funny! I had a homeless guy stick his foot out & try to trip me running along the river today! I just growled and then smiled at him & kept running! Great miles today Joe!

From Dan on Wed, Aug 03, 2011 at 23:17:27 from 24.209.83.20

Nice miles Joe- I tell ya you can never guess what people are going to do. I have had runs where people are going out of their way to say hello and others where I was afraid they might shoot me because I said hello.... oh well... I suggest painting a shirt on.

From I Just Run on Thu, Aug 04, 2011 at 05:09:59 from 166.137.142.233

Maybe they weren't actually Texas...?

From seeaprilrun on Thu, Aug 04, 2011 at 11:19:11 from 174.70.177.86

Strange, usually out in the country I find folks to be more accepting of half-naked runners--although they do stare. I find when I run in town the shirtless look is not...approved. Whatever!

From JG on Thu, Aug 04, 2011 at 11:24:00 from 71.57.246.108

Haha April ... I am sure if you ran shirtless you would get a lot of stares, although they would probably be of a difft variety than the ones Joe gets! lol

From SlowJoe on Thu, Aug 04, 2011 at 12:17:17 from 132.3.53.68

Burt - The goat guy definitely thought I was after one of his goats.

JG - never had an attempted tripping before!

Dan - ignore everyone, that's the lesson here.

IJR - I know, pretty non-Texan behavior there

April - usually I get waves from people driving by (I think they recognize me by now) but I guess when you're after their goats it's a different story

JG - leaving that one alone!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

83F, 8:47 AP.  Warm morning again, whadya know...

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From flatlander on Thu, Aug 04, 2011 at 12:32:31 from 198.207.244.102

Congratulations, you've got quite a week going. Must be hitting 110 up there? Just when I thought it wouldn't get any hotter. People down here are openly wishing for a hurricane.

From DaleG on Thu, Aug 04, 2011 at 17:28:16 from 71.199.57.238

Is there any end in sight for that heat wave?

Nice run.

From Dan on Thu, Aug 04, 2011 at 23:32:01 from 24.209.83.20

I'd boycott the heat if I could! Way to keep at it Joe.

From Little Engine That Could on Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 09:19:13 from 68.15.209.7

Nice run. Do you have a side of humidity to go along with those temps?

From SlowJoe on Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 11:19:49 from 132.3.53.68

Flat - not quite 110, but a good solid week of 106 and 107. Crazy - I'd heard the consensus was that folks would rather take on a Cat 1 or 2 than continue on with the drought/heat wave.

DG - not as far as I can tell, but Fall has to come sometime (I think).

Dan - if going on strike would held, I'd be all over it

LETC - nope, no moisture where I live - good if you're a runner, but bad if you're a plant.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
15.000.0015.00

83F, S 10 mph.  Somewhere around an 8:15 avg mile, forgot to look, but it took 2:03-something.  Felt more like a 7:15 effort anyway.

Not sure what the deal was, but my legs were dead today.  Normally I can get going after 3 or 4 miles but not really today.  Just felt slow and tired the whole time.  As an added bonus I feel like I ran 20 instead of 15.  Yuck.

I'm trying to get myself ready for a Pfitzinger plan that I'll start in September, and he has a lot of MLRs on the schedule.  Hopefully today was just an off day, and not me trying to over-reach with mileage.

1140s #3 Miles: 15.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Steam8 on Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 12:09:47 from 166.70.55.77

Oh good....you are normal and have some (what you call) an off day. I wouldn't call 8:15 ave off day, that would be an amazing day for me.

Not sure why your legs were dead? You run a million miles a week. I am glad they seem tired for you once in a while! :)

From Kelli on Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 12:11:56 from 71.219.67.82

We discussed OFF days today while we were running. Everyone has them, it happens! Sorry you had to slog through it, BUT YOU DID!!!! 8:15 pace is not bad at all for 15 miles, so you slogged through it WELL.

From flatlander on Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 14:36:55 from 76.31.26.153

Yikes

From seeaprilrun on Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 19:33:55 from 174.70.177.86

83 degrees is a lot for a long run. Some runs are just like that though...no oomph in the legs.I wouldn't worry about it unless the feeling persists for more and more runs.

From derhammer on Sun, Aug 07, 2011 at 02:08:03 from 87.209.226.170

With any luck it WILL get cooler sometime this fall.

From SlowJoe on Sun, Aug 07, 2011 at 18:51:40 from 75.109.104.60

Thanks all, I think I was starting to get sick - I felt bad on Saturday. So I will blame it 100% on that, and 0% on me being a wuss.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
12.003.0015.00

82F, S 10 mph.  Track day.  12 x 400 (200m active recovery) was the workout, was not looking forward to it.

I ran to ACU and jogged around campus for awhile, then hit the track with about 8 miles on the watch; fairly slow warmup.  It's funny, during the week the track is unlocked at every entrance but on Sunday everything is locked except for one gate, and I always have to jog around to find it as they seemingly rotate which gate is open.  Finally found a way in, and started the intervals.  My goal was just to run smoothly and keep it below 5k pace.

1:31.8, 1:31.7, 1:28.0, 1:33.9, 1:30.8, 1:32.7, 1:33.5, 1:33.7, 1:32.7, 1:32.1, 1:32.2, 1:29.0.

Average 400 was 1:31.8 (6:09 pace), and much slower for the 200s.  The 200m recovery jogs got slower and slower, paces started in the low 8:00s and eventually almost hit 10:00 as I got tired.  So painful.  Not smooth at all once I got to 7 or 8 repeats.  I told myself I could go ahead and give up if I couldn't keep at least 1:35, but the splits kept unfortunately coming in below.  I had to walk a good 100m after the last one to collect myself, then slowly made my way home.

Anyway, the real highlight today is my oldest daughter's birthday party (she turned 5 earlier this week).  I have only been around for 1 of her birthdays so far, so this one will make me 2-for-5.  Poor kid!

Kinvaras Miles: 15.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From JG on Sun, Aug 07, 2011 at 12:41:32 from 71.57.246.108

That is a great track workout Joe, and good total miles. Enjoy the B-day celebration with your daughter!!

From seeaprilrun on Mon, Aug 08, 2011 at 17:37:19 from 174.70.177.86

Happy Birthday to your daughter!!! Excellent track workout---pretty minimal recoveries so nicely done!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
7.000.007.00

82F, S 15 mph.  8:57 AP.  Legs were pretty crushed from yesterday's workout, so I let them go whatever pace they wanted.  They were not too ambitious.  I'll do more easy running like this tomorrow and will hopefully be ready to tackle the rest of the week on Wednesday.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 7.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From JG on Mon, Aug 08, 2011 at 11:03:52 from 71.57.246.108

Nice recovery run Joe, I need to do more of those ... but I have been opting for recovery bike rides. They are probably good too, but my mileage does not look so good at the end of the week!

From Burt on Mon, Aug 08, 2011 at 14:31:47 from 206.19.214.144

Out of the 64 miles you ran last week, I'm glad 4 of them were fast miles.

From I Just Run on Mon, Aug 08, 2011 at 18:13:18 from 67.79.11.242

I'd give anything to run 7 at 8:47 pace...! Sleep - Eat - Run ... You just have to balance the three. I haven't seemed to master the balance yet!

From Dan on Mon, Aug 08, 2011 at 23:25:54 from 24.209.83.20

Nice workout yesterday and recovery runs are just like you said- whatever the legs want!

From SlowJoe on Tue, Aug 09, 2011 at 10:37:26 from 132.3.53.68

JG - sometimes I think the recovery runs are more restful than not running at all...can't prove it though!

Burt - I like to train using the 16-to-1 rule. You've never heard of it?

IJR - I wonder if anyone can "master the balance." it's tough

Dan - I can usually tell how tired my legs are by how slow the recovery run goes

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
11.060.0011.06

AM - 82F, S 12-18 mph.  6 more easy miles at an 8:54 avg.  I'll do a few more this evening.  Should be awesome with a high of 107 today.

PM - 104F, SSE 14-24 mph.  5 @ 8:55.  I thought if I left at 7pm the sun would be low enough to give me some shade.  I thought wrong.

1140s #3 Miles: 6.061150s Miles: 5.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Kelli on Tue, Aug 09, 2011 at 15:11:20 from 71.219.67.82

107??? Have you not heard of this great invention called the treadmill?!? Good luck with that, but I know you will do it.

Great job with the track workout Sunday! And Happy Birthday to your daughter.

From seeaprilrun on Tue, Aug 09, 2011 at 17:44:24 from 174.70.177.86

Ouch. I feel your pain. This little ol cold front that just came through here missed y'all completely. Sorry. We are down to 95 today.

From Dan on Tue, Aug 09, 2011 at 22:16:15 from 24.209.83.20

Wow Joe- hard core man. I hate treadmills too....

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
14.630.0014.63

81F.  8:07 AP.  Slog miles.  I actually felt pretty good to start and found a solid pace early, but unfortunately forgot half my gatorade.  I was almost sure that the 20 oz I had would not cut it for me for a 2-hour run in the heat, but I decided to keep going anyway and (not surprisingly) faded badly as I dried out.  Oh well, next time I'll turn around to retrieve the fluids I need...lesson learned.  Took the direct route home which cut out about 0.4 miles, thus I was a little short of the planned 15.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 14.63
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Burt on Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 15:42:52 from 206.19.214.144

I'm picturing you coming home looking like a dried prune. Or maybe a raisin.

From Dan on Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 16:12:42 from 72.49.112.127

Possibly an avocado, just for reference sake. Nice running Joe - and happy you learned a lesson the er easy way?

From seeaprilrun on Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 21:34:26 from 174.70.177.86

The heat is brutal. We have gotten some relief this week..lucky us! Hopefully yours arrives soon too. Great run with the whole profoundly dehydrated factor.

From JG on Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 09:45:08 from 71.57.246.108

Nice workout, you amaze me continuously cranking out long runs! I read your post before I went out for my run & it prompted me to take an extra gatorade along, which helped ... thanks! :) Of course, the need for it was probably 1/10th of what it was in Tx compared to PA! :)

From SlowJoe on Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 12:25:05 from 132.3.53.68

Burt - close - sundried tomato

Dan - I though I had actually learned that lesson before, but I must have a short-term memory.

April - enjoy those temps, one day we'll cool off...just not sure when

JG - being dehydrated is always fun, I find myself saying "deathmarch" every other step, not too inspiring

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
4.000.004.00

Treadmill...  I flew last night and by the time I got home it was almost 4am so the run just wasn't happening this morning.  I just did 4 on the TM later @ 8:41 pace, pretty much just for the sake of putting up something instead of getting a goose egg for today.

1140s #3 Miles: 4.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From seeaprilrun on Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 19:05:13 from 174.70.177.86

I could feel your weariness just reading this post. Get some rest!

From JG on Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 22:09:18 from 71.57.246.108

Goose eggs are good if they are golden!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
13.002.5115.51

78F, 72% humidity.  This was the first time in a couple weeks that we actually dipped below 80 in Abilene, although it came with a little humidity.  Definitely not complaining though!

7:44 AP today - felt good today so did the standard feel-it-out-but-not-too-crazy progressive run.  First 7 miles in the low 8's, then 7:40, 7:40, 7:38, 7:32, 7:27, 7:24, 7:15, 7:03, 3:11 (for the last 0.51).  Good way to end the running week after the stinker on Wednesday.

Kinvaras Miles: 15.51
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From JG on Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 16:21:17 from 71.57.246.108

Nice run Joe ... we should have been running together today! :) You were kickin it that last 1/2 mile!

From Dan on Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 20:34:41 from 24.209.83.20

Nice run Joe, those are some good progressive splits - I will refrain and weather comments.

From Steam8 on Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 22:13:03 from 166.70.55.77

Nice run! Glad the temps are a bit cooler for you! I ran in the heat today and it about killed me! yuck!

From derhammer on Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 03:41:26 from 87.209.226.170

Great job - I think those paces are really going to drop this fall with some cooler temps.

From seeaprilrun on Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 13:53:20 from 174.70.177.86

Great run Joe! It's amazing how cool 80 degrees can feel after triple digits. I see you are doing good running long in the Kinvaras.

From SlowJoe on Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 15:04:16 from 75.109.104.60

JG - yeah, felt good so I added a half-mile at interval speed

Dan - thanks, although we finally got some rain last night...amazing

S8 - it kills me too, I'm glad there are different seasons

DH - let's hope so!

April - thanks, I've been trying to do every other 15-miler in the flats to keep the achilles/calf area strong.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
17.180.0017.18

74F, 87% humidity.  Got 3.5 inches of rain on Friday night, which now accounts for more than a third of our rainfall for the year.  Yeah, kinda dry here.  Anyway, the storm cooled things off this weekend and made for a nice run this morning.

7:48 AP today.  Took a new route out to the wind farms and got some decent hills.  The last 8+ miles were all between 7:20-7:32, and as I finshed I felt like I could've run forever at that pace.  I was consciously slowing my pace to save gas for the rest of the week.  Amazing what a difference a few degrees makes.

1150s Miles: 17.18
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From seeaprilrun on Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 20:46:43 from 174.70.177.86

I'm glad to hear you finally got a bit of relief. Nice run, you are right back at racking up the miles. Do you have any races planned between now and the Abilene 10K?

From flatlander on Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 23:44:13 from 76.31.26.153

Great job. We drove through there at about 10:00 last night. You'll be glad to know we decided not to stop in for dinner.

From I Just Run on Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 10:15:13 from 67.79.11.242

Nice running Joe! I bet it feels good to be that strong after 17 miles :-)

From SlowJoe on Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 20:18:34 from 75.109.104.60

April - don't think I will race until next month for the 10K. I think I will try and squeeze a couple 5Ks in by the end of the year though.

Flat - welcome back to summer.

IJR - thanks, it was a nice surprise not being tired - I think I've just gotten used to the heat draining all my energy

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

76F, 76%.  Really early start to a long day.  9:09 AP.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From seeaprilrun on Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 08:02:58 from 174.70.177.86

Ah, so you were out running at butt thirty this morning too. Hope your day goes well.

From JG on Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 12:08:00 from 71.57.246.108

What better way to start a long day than with a run ... good job getting it in!

From Burt on Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 19:27:57 from 206.19.214.144

Enjoy your long day.

From Dan on Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 22:07:21 from 24.209.83.20

Nice miles yesterday and hope the long day is over.

From Rye on Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 10:02:21 from 71.209.20.54

Way to keep kicking out the mileage joe!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
11.000.0011.00

AM - 80F, S 10 mph.  7 miles @ 9:01 AP.  Hoping to be ready for some intervals tomorrow.  It definitely couldn't have happened today - felt kinda worn out.

PM - 4 on the treadmill, 8:41 pace.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 4.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From flatlander on Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 11:10:32 from 76.31.26.153

Good solid run. How is the humidity in the mornings up there? You certainly have high temperatures.

From Burt on Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 13:51:22 from 206.19.214.144

You've got high in the sky apple pie hopes.

From seeaprilrun on Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 17:52:25 from 174.70.177.86

Have a good speed workout!

From Kelli on Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 20:56:19 from 71.219.67.82

Good luck tomorrow with the intervals. I will pray for cooler, less humid weather for your run!

From Burt on Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 21:31:15 from 206.19.214.144

And she's Mormon, so you know all her prayers are answered.

From Kelli on Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 21:44:31 from 71.219.67.82

Funny BURT!

From Dan on Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 22:46:42 from 24.209.83.20

Nice run... do some intervals for me as well.

From SlowJoe on Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 10:32:09 from 132.3.53.68

Flat - I usually don't mention the humidity unless it's about 70% or so. It's usually around 50-60% in the morning, so a negligible effect. We did have one morning at 87% after a storm but it was so cool at 74 degrees that it probably didn't affect heat index.

Kelli/Burt - thanks, it worked, we had a relatively cool morning! I must have picked the wrong religion, my prayers to be the fastest runner on the planet are continually ignored.

April/Dan - thanks, it went well

From Burt on Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 12:48:12 from 206.19.214.144

Some of God's greatest gifts are unanswered prayers.

I made that up.

From SlowJoe on Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 13:00:15 from 132.3.53.68

Well I guess they are answered....with a "NO!"

From flatlander on Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 13:04:47 from 198.207.244.102

I am pretty sure that by this time next year you will be the fastest runner on the planet. (Sorry Burt, I think Joe is a little faster. He looks like a greyhound.)

From Kelli on Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 13:20:40 from 71.219.67.82

Na, just change your prayers to be the fastest you can be. Can not go wrong with that! I pray just not to die while I run. ;o)

From SlowJoe on Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 13:35:48 from 132.3.53.68

Flat - maybe a daschund

Kelli - yeah my actual prayers are more like that (don't let me die)! I don't think God gives a crap about running and I don't blame him.

From Kelli on Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 17:57:46 from 71.219.67.82

Really? I am sure God is a runner and that he does not ever get tired or hot. That is how I picture heaven anyway!

From SlowJoe on Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 19:44:20 from 75.109.104.60

you might be right about that one!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
11.273.7315.00

77F.  I did my big workout for the week today at the track.  Stole the idea from Flatlander and did 6 x 1000m, with 600m active recovery.

First, a 6+ mile warmup, averaging 8:04/mile.

Then the 1000s were 3:48, 3:52, 3:48, 3:49, 3:53, 3:47.  Average was 3:49.5 - if you're like me a 1000m time means nothing to you, so 3:49.5 converted to min/mile is 6:09 AP.  The 600m recovery jogs averaged about 8:40/mile.

Really happy with my performance today.  If I recall, I recently did 12 x 400m at the same avg pace.  It was about 5 degrees cooler today though, with less wind, and a slightly higher percentage of recovery time today, but these 1000s were controlled while I was flailing on the 400s.  The recovery time was still in the 50-90% range recommended by Pfitz in his book (although I came pretty close to 90% on my slower recoveries toward the end) so I'll chalk this workout up as a success.

Cooled down back home until I got to 15 miles total.  7:43 AP on the day.

Kinvaras Miles: 15.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Burt on Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 12:49:17 from 206.19.214.144

Mark is not going to be happy when he hears you stole his workout. Were you creeping in his backyard with a flashlight?

From flatlander on Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 13:37:55 from 198.207.244.102

That workout is a huge success. So Pfitz means that recovery speed should be 50% to 90% of interval speed? I really need to get his book, but in the meantime I'll crib off of everybody else.

From SlowJoe on Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 13:43:08 from 132.3.53.68

Burt - No he keeps the best workouts in the garage.

Flat - 50-90% on total time. So if the repeat took 2 minutes of fast running, your recovery jog should take between 1:00 and 1:48.

From seeaprilrun on Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 18:22:58 from 174.70.177.86

That's a GREAT workout! I feel a little nauseated thinking about 6:09 pace. Great job! ..and all sandwiched into a solid 15 miles.

From I Just Run on Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 00:07:39 from 71.41.149.142

105 or 110 degrees ... I don't think it makes much difference above 100... Ha ha ... Great workout!

From derhammer on Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 01:39:11 from 87.209.226.170

Phenomenal workout with 15 miles total. Are you incorporating the Big Workout idea into your training?

From Steam8 on Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 03:22:20 from 166.70.55.77

Nice 15 FAAAAASST JOE! :) It has got to feel good to be so slow!

From SlowJoe on Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 10:23:54 from 132.3.53.68

Thanks April, I think the 3+ minute recoveries allowed me to crank it up a little more.

IJR - thanks, I don't think you'll see me running when it's that hot

DH - yep, that's another idea I've stolen this summer! Where would I be without this blog?

Thanks Steam, felt good to have a fast day!

From JG on Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 11:15:01 from 71.92.34.153

What ... only a 6 mile warm-up?! You are really slipping!! Great workout & pace, nice job Joe!

From SlowJoe on Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 11:12:50 from 132.3.53.68

JG - yeah I know, how can anyone loosen up enough in just 6 miles?

From Mike on Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 11:27:55 from 144.183.224.2

Dang Joe! How much longer have you got in TX?

From SlowJoe on Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 11:03:06 from 75.109.104.60

Hey Mike - Not sure yet, I'm looking to possibly separate near the beginning of next year, but it's contingent on a few things. Not sure where we'll end up.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.040.006.04

78F, felt cooler though.  8:41 AP on this recovery run - my legs actually were not dead today...somehow.

Saw a guy walking along the highway in street clothes toward Abilene (very unusual on that stretch of road).  As I passed by, he asked me if that was Abilene (and pointed toward it).  I said, yeah about a mile past that hill.  Then as I jogged away I realized he was probably just released from the prison and had probably walked about 5 or 6 miles already.  I guess if they don't have a ride they just kick them out the front door and say "good luck, nearest town is 7 miles that way."

1150s Red #2 Miles: 6.04
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Rye on Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 11:47:09 from 174.27.124.98

How did you come to that assumption? Was he wearing stripes? Maybe you should pack some spray with ya! 78 cooler? Wow, I think you need to make a trip out here in the west and get a feel for some cooler weather.

From seeaprilrun on Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 08:29:36 from 174.70.177.86

Great. You are the prison default town. That would make me feel safe on my runs.

From I Just Run on Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 10:01:01 from 67.79.11.242

Missed opportunity...You should have challanaged him to a race you to town.

From SlowJoe on Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 11:03:39 from 132.3.53.68

Rye - I guess he could've been a drifter or something but Abilene is the only significant town within 150 miles so most people around here would know if they were a mile away.

April - Kinda creepy but I figure they are least likely to commit a crime hours after release.

IJR - didn't even think of that, maybe next time.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
12.003.0015.00

77F.  7:37 AP.  Skunk day today, I saw 2 live skunks.  Found out they are not intimidated by humans.  The first one actually scurried up toward me, to meet me at the side of the road with his tail straight up in the air.  Within a second I was running in the ditch on the opposite side; I don't think I've ever moved that fast.  Did not get sprayed by either one, fortunately.

The run was great other than that.  I'd planned to mostly take it easy but started to really pick it up on the way home.  Last 6 were 7:24, 7:22, 7:19, 7:08, 6:53, 6:19.

I think I'm on the verge of an improvement spurt, but probably can't really assess that until it cools down -- this is a run I probably could have done this past spring but probably could not have pulled off for most of this summer.

Oh yeah, and I finally hit 70 miles in a week!  I'll step back a little next week with about 50, then try to hit a couple more 70-mile weeks before rolling into my official training plan.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 15.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Dan on Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 16:01:17 from 72.49.112.127

Nice job with the run, nicer job avoiding the skunks. Cooler weather will bring your training together nicely.

From seeaprilrun on Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 18:06:29 from 174.70.177.86

Sweet finish! Freakin a 6:19 on the back end of 15? Yeah, I foresee an improvement spurt too, a HUGE one. The cool weather will hit and you will PR in everything you run.

From flatlander on Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 18:29:09 from 198.207.244.102

I think there's nothing to foresee, it's already here. Fantastic run. Haven't seen a skunk yet, I guess my time is coming.

From Kelli on Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 19:14:39 from 71.219.67.82

Serious speed there on the end of that "easy" run. And look at the temperature! You probably needed mittens and a scarf.

From SlowJoe on Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 11:06:11 from 75.109.104.60

Thanks all!

From Rye on Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 21:41:56 from 174.27.104.121

Congrats on a very good run and week! You are there!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
12.220.0012.22

79F.  This is my easy week -- I averaged 67 miles/week over the last 3 weeks so I'll cut mileage back about 20% this week to rest up.

7:39 AP today, pretty evenly paced effort.  I'm getting excited about how certain paces are starting to feel.  I did have the fast shoes on, but this still felt a lot easier than it should've.  Later on in the week I'll do a tempo to better figure out where I'm at.

Kinvaras Miles: 12.22
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From seeaprilrun on Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 20:55:25 from 174.70.177.86

When 7:39 feels easy breezy, yeah, that's definitely a good sign. With all this consistent training, I think you need to think about sub-3 at Houston.

From Dan on Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 23:21:27 from 24.209.83.20

Im with April, if 7:39 is feeling good, you have some big races ahead of you! Nice work.

From SlowJoe on Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 10:27:35 from 132.3.41.68

April - looking at my training schedule I see lots of long MP runs, should get a better idea then; thanks for the vote of confidence

Dan - almost scary how easy it felt but going by "feel" itself can be a tricky thing

From derhammer on Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 16:10:02 from 192.156.110.33

Good call on the recovery week.

I have been discussing paces lately with fellow runners. My body's "groove" pace used to be around 8:10 pace, now it is 7:30's. Strangely enough, I find the groove pace easier than slower recovery runs. For example, I will be struggling and my heart rate will be higher at the slower pace than if I pick up it and run at the faster pace. I am not sure why this is but it is something that I have noticed.

From SlowJoe on Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 10:29:46 from 132.3.53.68

DH - Funny, I have noticed the same thing...like why am I breathing harder @ 8:30 pace today than @ 7:30 pace another day? strange!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.000.005.00

78F.  8:52 AP.

First day of kindergarten!  She seemed to be doing fine.  The 5-year-old and the 31-year-old, that is.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 5.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From JG on Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 10:21:07 from 66.168.206.98

Funny ... that is a big day! I can't believe my son has entered high school ... oh how time flies!

From seeaprilrun on Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 18:00:28 from 174.70.177.86

they grow up way too fast. sigh.

From I Just Run on Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 18:34:57 from 67.79.11.242

Next thing you know she'll be in her second year of college...like mine. I had a hard time sending her off last Wednsday. I don't know what it was but it was harder than last year :-(

Are your running like a million miles this week again...?

From Rye on Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 22:38:54 from 75.174.15.206

We live directly across the street from the k-5 school. All of my kids have been there. My youngest is trying to break the family record of tardies for this year, since it is his final year ..... The bell rings and they think they still have 5 minutes left. Drove me nuts years ago..... its pretty amusing at this point in my life. Enjoy every moment with them!

From Dan on Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 23:29:19 from 24.209.83.20

Ah, yes... I remember well. Good luck :)

From SlowJoe on Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 10:17:20 from 132.3.53.68

JG - don't even want to think about high school

April - true statement

IJR - impossible to imagine them old enough to go to college right now! 53 miles this week is the plan

Rye - sounds conveinient! The elementary school here is a mess trying to get in and out of by car.

Thanks Dan.

From I Just Run on Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 12:18:28 from 67.79.11.242

Ok...I'll try to bike as many miles as you run this week :-)

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
7.060.007.06

81F.  Warm morning...if today plays out as forecasted, it will be our 70th day hitting 100F this year.  Maybe by October we'll get some cooler temps.

8:24 AP today - somewhere between recovery and aerobic base effort.  The best part about this rest week: no double today.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 7.06
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Neil on Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 17:43:01 from 164.165.24.5

Enjoy the rest week. I ran 5 miles this morning and it almost seems like I took the day off. Context matters. It's like getting a slap on the backside for a job well done. If it's your football coach then its probably ok but if your boss decides to do it then you probably have a decent lawsuit. ;)

From Burt on Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 18:32:38 from 206.19.214.144

Good game!

From seeaprilrun on Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 21:29:09 from 205.172.12.229

Sweet. No second shower.

From Dan on Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 22:26:16 from 24.209.83.20

Well, he may still need a second shower. Double down on rest I say.

From flatlander on Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 23:29:36 from 76.31.26.153

I just can't do doubles, still working on that.

From SlowJoe on Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 10:23:44 from 132.3.53.68

Neil - I don't know, could also be a quick way to a promotion

Burt - hey, don't use both hands

April - definitely a plus

Dan - did I need one? maybe. will I take one? no.

Flat - the decision between outside @ 100F or the TM in the evening kills me

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
12.000.0012.00

80F.  8:06 AP.  Meh.  I put on the go-faster shoes thinking I might do a tempo but was not feeling it at all.  It was dark, early, hot, whatever, and I could just never get going, so I just let the legs do whatever they wanted.  I'll take it easy tomorrow and go fast on Friday whether I feel like it or not.

Kinvaras Miles: 12.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 10:57:40 from 67.79.11.242

I have some "go-fast" shoes (Brooks Racers). I really like them but have only worn them a couple of times...and the're orange...!

From Dan on Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 18:41:55 from 24.209.83.20

Kinvara's are fast shoes, that's for sure, but I certainly have not run fast every time I have worn them. Gotta let the body have it's way sometimes. Remember, this is your step back week so no harm there.

From SlowJoe on Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 10:01:58 from 132.3.53.68

IJR - orange is good. I actually have a new pair of kinvaras coming in with some orange too.

Dan - true, thanks for the reminder; I tend to miss the point a lot

From seeaprilrun on Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 18:36:10 from 174.70.177.86

Smooth move. Some days are just not workout days and pushing the issue does more damage than good.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.050.005.05

81F.  Kind of a slow, refreshing run this morning just before sunrise.  8:55 AP.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 5.05
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From derhammer on Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 11:56:47 from 192.156.110.33

OK, my turn to give you some grief on that "refreshing" comment in 81 degree temps. LOL.

From SlowJoe on Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 10:23:46 from 132.3.53.68

heh, yeah I guess the legs got refreshed, but the sweating buckets in the heat was less refreshing...

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.006.0012.00

76F, 80%.  Geez, everytime it drops a few degrees we get some humidity with it..

Anyway, I needed a good laugh so I figured I'd try the last 6 @ GMP today (7:03).

First, a brisk 6-mile warmup @ 7:56 AP.

Then 6 GMP @ 6:56 AP.  Splits were 6:57, 7:05, 6:55, 6:54, 7:01, 6:40.

7:26 AP for all 12.

Weeeell, let's face it - GMP is pretty much tempo pace right now.  Yeah, I know it'll get cooler but there's still a ways to go before 7-minute miles = MP.  Overall, not a bad run though.  I had to start today at 4:30am so the run was completely in the dark -- with the Garmin 405 I have to lock the bezel in the summertime due to the sweat flying...that means I can't turn on the light and use it for pacing.  The only glimpse I get of my pace is when it beeps each mile and lights up.  No street lights where I run.  So one positive takeaway is that I (more or less) set the right pace without looking.  Just wish it wasn't such a miserable-feeling pace.

Kinvaras Miles: 12.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 10:59:54 from 67.79.11.242

Ha ha... it was 70 degrees and pretty low humidity here today ... Sorry I had to rub it in a little. The bad thing is I wasn't running but biking. Temperatures don't seem to matter much when biking. I think I'm actually going to get cold while biking if the temperature is below 70.

My Garmin (old style 305) lights up if I press the power button once. Doesn't your new version do that?

Oh BTW...80% humidity is pretty normal for here :-) All in all it was still a nice run for you!

From SlowJoe on Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 11:06:25 from 132.3.53.68

To light up the 405 you have normally have to touch the bezel with 2 fingers, but I have to lock it when it's hot (so the bezel won't work) because my sweat starts to set it off after a few miles if I don't. Then it goes haywire the rest of the run. I wish we'd gotten the older ones to start out with - I like actual buttons more.

80% humidity is rare here lately, but I looked it up and it only made the heat index 77 so still a cooler morning (although not 70!)

From I Just Run on Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 11:08:02 from 67.79.11.242

My Garmin would be worthless if water set it off. I sweat like a pig...! Wait a minute, I've heard pigs don't sweat..?

From SlowJoe on Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 11:12:01 from 132.3.53.68

Yeah I don't think my wife appreciates the solid trail of sweat leading to the shower when I get back. Or the soaking wet spot on the carpet where I stretch out a little. At least we can't be called pigs if they don't sweat.

From seeaprilrun on Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 18:50:08 from 174.70.177.86

10 degrees cooler and something will snap and suddenly 6:50 pace will get very, very comfortable. Just wait--you'll see!

From Dan on Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 22:22:52 from 24.209.83.20

Nice job Joe- I have a 405cx so I hear ya. When I run pre-5 am, sometimes I turn the sensitivity at it's lowest setting so I can have some light. Either that or I program the Garmin to angry beep at me if I am going to fast or slow with the custom range settings.

Humid? The good thing about Ohio is we are already cooling off- the bad was May-August and the 90 out of 98 days was 100%. That being said- April is right, you are gearing up for some great speeds!

From SlowJoe on Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 19:43:34 from 75.109.104.60

April - hopefully so -- I have a bunch of long GMP runs ahead that could get pretty ugly otherwise!

Dan - thanks for the tip on the Garmin, didn't know you could leave the light on low like that. And yeah, humidity has certainly never been the issue here - just icing on the misery cake every once and awhile.

From Rye on Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 22:58:53 from 174.27.85.204

Technology is great! We runners are geeks. Nice run joe... How do you feel about your training?

From SlowJoe on Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 10:40:19 from 75.109.104.60

Rye - not sure what to think yet - I'm glad I've held up well during the highest mileage of my life but I still constantly wonder if I'm doing too much, not enough, etc. Ask me again on January 15!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
16.000.0016.00

78F to start, 83F finish.  Started in darkness, but the lack of shade made it feel hotter in the last few miles when the sun rose.  Anyway, I took it mostly easy today so no big deal - 7:57 AP.

Gotta remember not to run down that section of Wildcat road anymore.  Every single residence had 2 or 3 dogs running loose and it was a competition to see who could be the biggest nuisance.  The winner was this tiny, prissy white dog who almost nipped my heel.  The houses there are spaced out every quarter-mile or so, but it was a 2+ mile stretch...

1150s Red #1 Miles: 16.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From flatlander on Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 00:34:57 from 75.196.231.56

Nice running in the heat, those yap-yap dogs are fast, in my opinion.

From SlowJoe on Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 10:09:41 from 132.3.53.68

They are fast and seemingly bolder, but usually tire out sooner.

From I Just Run on Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 10:39:19 from 67.79.11.242

I biked by a house yesterday and about 3 or four big dogs came after me. One came right up and snapped at my foot. I couldn't kick him or anything since my foot was clipped into the pedal. I really though I was going to get bitten. I was actually going pretty fasy when I came up on them and thought I'd just zoom right past them but quickly found out that they can run about as fast as I can ride. I may take my airsoft pistol next time I ride by that house :-)

From Burt on Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 12:25:12 from 206.19.214.144

That reminds me of that Aerosmith video. Only with yapping dogs instead of hot desperate house wives at each house.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
7.000.007.00

84F.  8:45 AP.  Looks like the lows will finally drop to mid-70s by the end of the week which should feel great after mornings like this.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 7.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 10:41:43 from 67.79.11.242

Yeah it was 70 degrees one morning last week and it actually felt cool...enough that my hands were cold for the first couple of miles.

From JG on Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 12:43:33 from 24.197.155.28

Great start to another good week for you Joe, I envy your consistency in this heat!

From Rye on Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 15:33:09 from 70.58.163.66

Man, you really need to take a trip out here in the west! Well, in the summer.

From seeaprilrun on Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 23:19:50 from 205.172.12.229

That might make for some nice morning runs!

From Dan on Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 23:28:09 from 24.209.83.20

Good morning- hope the temps drop for ya

From SlowJoe on Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 10:48:17 from 132.3.53.68

Danielle and I were drooling over the 10-day foreacst last night - low 70s up ahead!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
11.110.0011.11

AM - 84F, S 14 mph.  5.11 miles @ 8:51 AP.  I screwed up my alarm setting and woke up late, so this was all I had time for.  As it was, I had to run all the way to the shower; found out I can arrive back at home from a run and be completely ready to go 8 minutes later (including the shower).  Anyway, I was already planning to double today, so it just means a longer TM run this evening.

PM - 6 TM miles this afternoon, 8:45 AP, with a couple TM-style strides at the end to loosen up.  Apparently my normal BK lunch is 1400+ calories (looked it up).  So that was definitely still digesting as I ran.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 5.111150s Red #2 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 10:49:13 from 67.79.11.242

I thought I had pulled up the wrong Blog when I saw only 5.11 miles...Ha ha then I read the details :-) Sometimes your body just says you need to sleep a little longer.

From derhammer on Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 11:06:35 from 192.156.110.39

Yeah - low 70's. Next week shows a low of 60 on Tuesday. I am not holding my breath but it would be a most welcome change! (Ha, read your post from yesterday and commented here in case you are wondering.)

From SlowJoe on Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 11:14:17 from 132.3.53.68

IJR - I'm not gonna lie, it felt great to get 8 hours for once!

DH - yeah accuweather is always a little optimistically cool, at least for Abilene, but there is hope at least!

From Burt on Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 15:19:10 from 206.19.214.144

Did you get your makeup on in time, too?

From SlowJoe on Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 17:48:55 from 75.109.104.60

Just my foundation and eyeliner, didn't have time for the rest.

From JG on Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 17:51:33 from 24.197.155.28

Dang, you run a mile faster than it take you to get ready! lol BK power lunch then a run ... impressive!

From seeaprilrun on Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 00:36:44 from 205.172.12.229

I am never eating at BK again.

From SlowJoe on Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 10:18:28 from 132.3.53.68

JG - the only problem is sweating all the way to work

April - but it's so conveinient!

From I Just Run on Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 11:00:04 from 67.79.11.242

Now I know how you can run so many miles.... Lots of calories stored up...!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
15.580.0015.58

82F, S 10 mph.  Slogged it out today, 8:06 avg.  Just surviving until the worst of the heat passes which should be soon.

I got a couple new pairs of Kinvaras in the mail.  They were on sale for only $59 at Eastbay as long as you don't mind black shoes, which I don't.  The problem is that now I feel like a chick with 6 pairs of shoes in the rotation.  At least I won't need anymore for awhile.

Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 15.58
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 11:30:39 from 67.79.11.242

Black and orange go together well...!

From Steam8 on Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 19:47:15 from 166.70.55.77

8:06 is not slogging it at 15 miles! sheesh! Good thing you have plenty of shoes because they are all going to be worn out! :)

From Dan on Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 21:03:10 from 24.209.83.20

Good runs- and I have more shoes than anyone in the fam- so I feel your pain. I need to retire 3 more pairs too ... ack

From seeaprilrun on Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 21:57:06 from 174.70.177.86

Eastbay rocks! I have gotten some great deals there!

From Neil on Thu, Sep 01, 2011 at 15:28:13 from 174.253.161.118

Dang! Wish I knew bout the sale on Kinvaras. Just bought some NB MR 1400's for 20 bucks more. Very similar weight, fit and feel.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

76F.  I ran early; it looks like it got even a couple degrees cooler than that after I was done.  8:51 AP.  Maybe some 800s tomorrow if I feel fresh.  Otherwise, more slogging.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
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From seeaprilrun on Thu, Sep 01, 2011 at 10:58:12 from 174.70.177.86

Cool. I hope you are able to get out early and bang out those 800s. I bet you will rock them. We are back to triple digit days here. sigh. I have my 18 tomorrow and can't get out until the heat is starting so it will probably be a similar slog to what you had to do yesterday.

From derhammer on Thu, Sep 01, 2011 at 11:27:24 from 192.156.110.34

Yes, some 800's are in order. No less than 8 of them. Have fun!

From SlowJoe on Fri, Sep 02, 2011 at 17:40:41 from 75.109.104.60

April - yuck, hope you got it done somewhat painlessly today.

DH - I actually thought about doing 8, but decided that was just crazy.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
11.573.0014.57

74F.  Definitely felt cooler out there.  I had no excuse not to do some 800s as this was one of the coolest mornings we've had in months.  So, 6 x 800 with 400m active recoveries.

First, I did 8.12 miles easy, 8:06 AP.  Then rolled right in to the 800s.

3:12, 3:02, 3:01, 2:58, 3:00, 2:53.  Average was 3:01 (6:04 pace).  Too bad about the first one messing up the average.  I don't look at my watch at all during intervals until each one is complete, so I porked the first one.  The recovery 400s ranged from 2:02-2:19.  Afterward, cooled down 2 miles and change to get home.  7:49/mile for the run as a whole.

Pretty successful morning, now I get a day off to soak up the workout after another 70-mile week.  1 more week until my marathon training plan begins...

Kinvaras Miles: 14.57
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Fri, Sep 02, 2011 at 11:40:57 from 67.79.11.242

Wow...70 miles week after week isn't "marathon training" :-) I am so impressed with your progress, I can't wait to see how well you do at the marathons this fall!

From Rye on Fri, Sep 02, 2011 at 12:17:43 from 70.58.163.66

Awesome workout! I agree with IJR, if running 70 miles a week isn't marathon training..... well what is!

From seeaprilrun on Fri, Sep 02, 2011 at 20:32:29 from 205.172.12.230

Nicely done! I like the word "porked"--definitely a good alternative to "bombed" or "blew"!

From Dan on Fri, Sep 02, 2011 at 21:34:00 from 24.209.83.20

Nice times Joe- you are primed for some good races with your upcoming training. I'm ramping down (taper), your ramping up!

From flatlander on Fri, Sep 02, 2011 at 22:55:46 from 76.31.26.153

I agree, nice finishing touch to a great running week. I think it's good not to look at your watch in the middle of those intervals -- good practice for memorizing how a particular pace feels.

From JG on Sat, Sep 03, 2011 at 00:09:08 from 66.168.207.228

Great 800's Joe! I think it is good to run those by feel, but I am lousy at judging pace! I actually look at my watch every 100 meters & adjust my pace if necessary. Come to think of it, I have not done a track workout in ages ... maybe I will do a short one tomorrow to tune up for Monday!

From SlowJoe on Sat, Sep 03, 2011 at 11:51:49 from 75.109.104.60

IJR - the funny thing is that not much will change since I've been using many of the same ideas from the plan

Rye - I guess it's really all marathon training

April - Well, bombed is a good thing where I work, and you'll definitely never hear me say I blew anything

Dan - It's a good thing I enjoy training - 19 weeks to go...

Flat - the hardest thing is to convince my legs it's ok to run that fast

JG - I've tried looking at the Garmin in the past but it's not too accurate on the track for me

From JG on Sun, Sep 04, 2011 at 21:28:00 from 66.168.207.228

I just look at lap time on my Garmin at the track. Target 10k pace is 24/100, so I know I should hit 24, 48, 1:12, 1:36, 2:00, 2:24, 2:48, 3:12. I am usually at 22 seconds the first one, so it helps to know to slow down a little by looking! 5k is 22/100 ... maybe one day it will be 20!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
14.003.0017.00

76F, 73%, N 17-25 mph.  Finally a north wind - the cold front will arrive today!  Too late for this morning's run, but next week will be awesome.

7:35 AP today.  Mostly a progressive run - started out around 8:00 pace and worked my way down to GMP for the last 3.  I did the prison loop road today but turned short of the front gate this time so I didn't get followed by perimeter security.

Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 17.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From DaleG on Sun, Sep 04, 2011 at 18:02:57 from 71.199.57.238

Nice run. It'll be nice to have some cooler temps.

From seeaprilrun on Sun, Sep 04, 2011 at 18:27:20 from 174.70.177.86

Yeah! Ours arrived in the middle of the night last night along with some wind. But hey, it's almost 5 pm and only 78 degrees!!!

From flatlander on Sun, Sep 04, 2011 at 19:43:39 from 76.31.26.153

Blowing hard here right now, but I thought it was from the tropical storm over in New Orleans. That's almost the same as Abilene, right? Very good running.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

62F, N 10 mph.  8:46 AP.  Obviously the cold front arrived, felt great.  It should stick around most of this week, too.  Too bad I need a couple easy days, but I'm thinking mile repeats on Wednesday!

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From seeaprilrun on Mon, Sep 05, 2011 at 13:19:53 from 174.70.177.86

It's only 65 degrees here right now! I'm loving it! It looks like the temps are going to stick around for a while too!!!

From I Just Run on Mon, Sep 05, 2011 at 17:31:23 from 166.205.13.178

Hey Joei can't believe the wind was only 10. It's been 25 to30 the last two days here. I bet you wish one if your really long did had fallen on your schedule for today!

From Rye on Mon, Sep 05, 2011 at 17:33:04 from 75.174.15.219

So do you folks run in jackets when it drops down like that? It was 38 degrees here this morning and felt pretty darn nice.

From JG on Tue, Sep 06, 2011 at 10:31:52 from 66.168.207.228

Enjoy the weather Joe ... it is highs in the 70's and rain here all week ... woohoo! Forecast high of 67 today!@#$%

From SlowJoe on Tue, Sep 06, 2011 at 21:57:39 from 75.109.104.60

April - definitely looks like a great week but I already see more 100-degree days in the forecast next week....

IJR - yeah inconveinient timing on the front!

Rye - it was so cool that I put on a shirt to run!

JG - woohoo to you too!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
11.000.0011.00

AM - 53F.  7 miles @ 8:20 pace.  That was about as slow as I could go with those unbelieveable temps!

PM - 87F.  4 more, 8:33 pace.  Nice to finally be able to do a PM run outside.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 4.001150s Red #2 Miles: 7.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From flatlander on Tue, Sep 06, 2011 at 23:59:33 from 70.248.243.198

Get 'em while they're there -- good runs.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
10.005.0015.00

59F.  Man I love cool weather.  The workout today was 5 x 1 mile at 10K pace, with a quarter mile recovery inbetween (worked out to 2-minute recoveries).  I wanted to test out 6:30 as a 10K pace because I wasn't really sure where I was at, fitness-wise.

First, 8 warmup miles, AP 8:00 on the nose.

Then the repeats were 6:31, 6:29, 6:28, 6:30, 5:51.

That last one isn't even a typo!  6:30 wasn't challenging me too much (did I just say that?) so I put the pedal down for the last repeat.  I was actually in the 5:40s most of the way but met up with my biggest hill with about a quarter mile to go and could not keep the pace uphill.

Finished with an 8:27 cooldown mile, for an overall AP of 7:29.

I think I will have a legit shot at sub-40 in a couple weeks if the weather is like this.

Kinvaras Miles: 15.00
Weight: 0.00
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From I Just Run on Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 11:28:11 from 67.79.11.242

I was believing everything until I read the last statment about a "hill"....Really...? In Abilene...? Remember, some of your readers are from Texas :-) No...really, this is amazing good running!

From Rye on Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 15:11:06 from 70.58.163.66

Nice! All those slogging miles are paying off for you. Whats your definition of a hill anyway?

From I Just Run on Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 16:17:55 from 67.79.11.242

"Bump In The Road" .... Opps, did I say that out loud..?

From SlowJoe on Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 17:12:49 from 75.109.104.60

Ok, it was an Abilene hill. The biggest one around for a few miles, though. Which means about a 30-40 ft climb over a quarter mile. Hanging my head in shame now...

From TexasLindsey on Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 17:39:42 from 71.153.27.31

Wow! You are getting super fast! That sounds like a great workout! I should try that one day!

From flatlander on Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 17:49:26 from 198.207.244.102

That is wicked fast, especially after running 8. I don't care what the temperature is, you are really set right now.

From JG on Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 17:50:23 from 66.168.207.228

Awesome running Joe! I knew all those 100 degree miles would pay big dividends when things cooled down!

From I Just Run on Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 19:01:08 from 67.79.11.242

I really don't have any room to talk...I just hope none of those Utah guys don't chime in about our hills :-)

From Burt on Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 19:50:20 from 206.19.214.144

I guess I don't have as much respect now for the most famous Texan, Hank Hill, if the hills really aren't that big.

From seeaprilrun on Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 20:01:00 from 205.172.12.230

Holy smokes Joe! Without the hill you would've easily cranked a 5:40! Wow! I think sub-40 will come easily! The slogging has PAID OFF!

From SlowJoe on Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 22:40:41 from 75.109.104.60

Lindsey - the 2 minutes is the perfect amount of rest to let you keep going fast yet not let you recover too much.

Flat - thanks, I've kinda been dreaming of this day all summer!

JG - hoping you get this day in Atlanta soon!

IJR - I'm sure they are chuckling like we laugh at their "heat"

Burt - Dang ol you better take that back, dang ol Arizona dude

April - thanks, I think I have a good shot!

From DaleG on Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 00:09:33 from 152.216.11.5

Is it just my imiagination or are you getting way too fast?

From derhammer on Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 10:36:37 from 192.156.110.33

Breaking 40 should be no problem for you, in fact, you are capable of a faster time than that. Shoot for a 6:20 first mile and adjust from there depending on feel.

From SlowJoe on Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 13:14:14 from 75.109.104.60

DG - the cool weather definitely gave me a boost

DH - thanks for the vote of confidence; I feel like it will be close to 40 but you're right that a 6:20 opener will probably keep the options open.

From Steam8 on Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 13:34:03 from 166.70.55.77

WOW you are fast! The colder weather is definitely helping your legs go faster!! ;)

From JG on Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 14:43:18 from 66.168.207.228

Contemplating race strategies tends to make me dizzy! :) Your run certainly suggests you have a sub 40 in you! Someone once told me that if you conserve 10 seconds in the first mile, it will give you back 20 seconds later in the race. If you go 6:30, 6:25, 6:20 - you are on track for a sub 40 at the 3 mile mark, with over half the race to go ... so you still have options to go lower if you are feeling strong. However you approach it, I am sure you will do great, your training is always an inspiration to look at it! Oh, and just so you know, when you do break 40, we are going to petition a mandate that you have to change your blog name! :)

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

Danielle is out of town and I got the kids all day...fun, but unfortunately the little one does not have preschool on Thursday so I was stuck inside - 6 TM miles, 8:49 AP.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From flatlander on Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 18:44:59 from 198.207.244.102

You probably needed that anyway, just to be safe after yesterday.

From Kelli on Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 18:52:04 from 71.219.67.175

the TM is not all bad, it is usually cooler, right???

From seeaprilrun on Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 20:36:55 from 205.172.12.230

Good ol TM. A parent's best friend.

From I Just Run on Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 10:31:32 from 67.79.11.242

I'm sure I'll be running the treadmill a lot in the future. I just keep telling myself I like running on it :-)

From Dan on Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 10:39:02 from 208.54.35.157

TM = blah... Nice week going Joe, liked that workout yesterday

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
15.000.0015.00

72F (67F start, 77F finish).  Didn't start until about 9am as I had to drop the kids off at their respective schools first; fortunately it wasn't too warm yet.  7:46 AP.

Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 15.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From JG on Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 16:15:16 from 66.168.207.228

Wow, 70 miles already! I honestly do not know how you do it, week after week! Great Job!

From Rye on Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 16:51:24 from 174.27.123.67

I echo JG. Nice week of running! I ran today in 80 plus degree heat. It is cooler in Texas than in Idaho??????

From Dan on Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 11:55:51 from 208.54.35.246

Nice pace for 15 miles- well done. The weather has a way of reminding us when we don't run at our normal time. Good week Joe!

From I Just Run on Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 23:21:55 from 166.205.14.56

Good running Joe. I can live with your weather.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
11.060.0011.06

67F.  I broke out the Type A shoes today - haven't used them in awhile because they seemed to hurt my achilles awhile back.  I'm guessing they won't do it now since I've been running in the Kinvaras, which have an even lower heel.  We'll see, they feel fine now.

7:31 AP today, kinda quick for the GA run I had in mind, but I was feeling good after my day off.  Well, my legs were feeling good...I had to defend against a turd the whole run so it was miserable in that respect.  Kept it short for a Sunday run -- just 11 miles -- as I start the Pfitz schedule tomorrow and want to be somewhat fresh at the beginning.

Saucony A4 Miles: 11.06
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From derhammer on Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 16:05:22 from 192.156.110.33

Nice run - good luck with the plan -though I would say you are training just as hard now if not harder than what Pfitz requires, so you will do just fine.

From TexasLindsey on Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 17:44:08 from 71.153.27.31

There's a guy in my running group in Fort Worth that is on week 6 of Pfitz plan. He's aiming for sub-2:50 marathon...which is pretty amazing because his PR is like 3:04. However, he's been training really hard this summer and winning 5K's every week so he thinks it's realistic. This guy, Greg, blogs about Pfitz plan while he tries it. He has been following it to a T. Here's his blog:

http://www.dailymile.com/people/gregstransform/

From flatlander on Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 23:41:13 from 198.207.244.102

Good luck with that plan, it will be interesting to see the results.

From SlowJoe on Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 11:39:29 from 132.3.53.68

DH - I settled on the 18/85, so I think it will eventually get harder, just not right now.

TL - pretty impressive improvement for that guy. Maybe I need a shirt with my name on it too!

Thanks Flat

From TexasLindsey on Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 14:09:42 from 71.153.27.31

I know, right?! LOL

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.000.005.00

69F.  8:38 AP.  First day of the Pfitz plan was an easy one.  Actually the first few weeks are easier than what I'm used to, but that won't last for too long.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 5.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Dan on Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 19:01:56 from 208.54.7.134

Joe, can I see the plan you are going to use- if its possible?

From Burt on Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 19:19:43 from 206.19.214.144

No turds to defend against today?

From SlowJoe on Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 19:27:15 from 75.109.104.60

Hey Dan, send me a PM, or give me your email; I'll try to send as an attachment. The plan is from a book, and I scanned it to a file.

From SlowJoe on Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 19:28:30 from 75.109.104.60

Burt - no I got the job done in one shot this morning

From Burt on Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 19:30:38 from 206.19.214.144

Nicely handled.

From seeaprilrun on Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 01:35:10 from 205.172.12.230

Love the new title! I will be curious to see how Pfitz works out for you. The stress fracture comeback plan was great for me.

From SlowJoe on Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 10:37:26 from 132.3.53.68

April - I think actually sticking to a schedule will be good for me as opposed to doing whatever I want, whenever I feel like it.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.004.009.00

76F.  7:23 AP.  Got a nice warm morning for my only workout of the week.  I did 5 warmup, then 4 tempo.  5 warmup @ 7:58 AP, then 4 tempo @ 6:40 AP (6:41, 6:37, 6:38, 6:44).  Harder than I wanted to work and slower than I wanted, but I wasn't feeling as peppy as last week when it was in the 50s and 60s.  So I guess that's ok.

Kinvaras Miles: 9.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Steam8 on Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 13:14:00 from 166.70.55.77

You really need to change your name....Speedy Joe, Steamer Joe??? Hey I like the second! ha!

From Burt on Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 18:25:13 from 206.19.214.144

Baby steps Steam8. We just got him to change his blog title.

From Dan on Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 19:37:16 from 208.54.85.145

Nice run Joe- you are right on about the heat in comparing runs. Steam, Burt is right, but I thought there may be something in there bout launching off a missile.

From Burt on Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 19:39:50 from 206.19.214.144

Burt is always right. Except when he says people have double chins. In those cases he can only hope people have good senses of humor.

From seeaprilrun on Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 23:24:43 from 205.172.12.229

That's a great tempo in those temps! Loooking good!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
12.300.0012.30

79F.  8:04 AP.  It was a hot, early, tired, dark, knee starting to tighten up, legs don't want to go, need immodium the whole time kind of run.  Today I actually took the step of collecting leaves from a tree and had them in hand for a few miles (finally found a non-mesquite tree) but managed to ultimately fend it off.  Every quarter-mile or so I would pick out a spot in case I had to unload.  Rough morning.

Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 12.30
Weight: 0.00
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From derhammer on Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 10:52:33 from 192.156.110.34

Hmmm, I don't think I am open enough to share this type of information. (BTW - I always tuck some folded up paper towel or TP in my short's pocket just in case...)

From JG on Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:21:39 from 71.59.27.33

Glad you survived! Nice run.

From flatlander on Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 13:38:01 from 198.207.244.102

Tough one, good job though.

From Neil on Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 19:22:22 from 207.170.240.150

LOL. I've so been there. Unfortunately, my usual routes don't have many spots where I could empty the chamber w/o an 80% risk of arrest.

From I Just Run on Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 22:43:47 from 71.41.149.142

I think Joe runs in the country like I do... Pretty safe, in case of emergencies anyway :-) Sorry you had a bad day Joe!

From SlowJoe on Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 10:37:22 from 132.3.53.68

DH - that is a habit pattern I will have to start setting apparently

Thanks JG & Flat

Neil - you think they would let you wipe before slapping on the cuffs?

IJR - yeah, plenty of spots to go, but I really don't want to set that precedence and have it become a normal thing.

From Rye on Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 18:12:13 from 75.174.18.241

Tree leaves? You know it's a good run when you return home with both of your socks. You might have blisters, but atleast your clean.

From SlowJoe on Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 14:57:07 from 132.3.53.68

Socks! Rye, I was noticing cardboard, plastic bags, etc on the ground but socks is a better idea...well, if you don't have anything nicer folded up in your pocket.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

67F, ENE 12-19 mph.  Small cold front coming in today - should make for a nice cool run tomorrow as well, but that's about it.  8:38 AP recovery today.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From derhammer on Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 12:21:16 from 192.156.110.39

Must be nice, wish it would reach down here. It was 38 degrees last night in my hometown of Omaha - hard to imagine.

From seeaprilrun on Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 15:43:47 from 174.70.176.178

It's 50 degrees here...and windy! Still, I'm glad to see it!!!

From SlowJoe on Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:19:33 from 132.3.53.68

DH - yeah too bad it didn't reach y'all, it was nice this morning.

April - yeah I'll definitely trade heat for wind!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.002.1710.17

58F.  Mini cold front made it nice and cool, so I was moving pretty good; finished up with a couple at GMP.  7:28 AP overall.

Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 10.17
Weight: 0.00
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From JG on Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:52:35 from 71.59.27.33

I like the mileage/pace mix up this week ... I think the Pfitz plan will take you to a sub 3! You have an incredible base built up, and with the cooler temps I think you will find those faster paces come with relative ease. Keep up the great work!!

From DaleG on Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 12:55:01 from 71.199.57.238

Nice!

It has cooled down a lot here in Utah this past week. I like it.

From seeaprilrun on Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 18:12:04 from 68.103.248.97

These temps ROCK! I think you will go sub-3 in Houston as well!

From Kelli on Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 19:56:58 from 71.219.67.175

NICE RUN!!!! Looks like everyone got a cold front today. How does that happen?

From Colby Park on Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 06:19:00 from 139.139.51.70

Joe, you're looking pretty strong man. It looks like you are staying pretty injury free too. I just got the Pfitz book to try it out. Obviously it looks like you suggest it. Keep up the good running!

From Rye on Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 09:51:02 from 70.58.163.66

Nice run Joe as well. Great temps too. Hope that the training continues to go well. I think that you are primed for a great breakthrough!

From SlowJoe on Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 11:02:40 from 75.109.104.60

JG - thanks for the vote of confidence, I definitely need to get into better shape for sub-3 but ya never know...

DG - definitely a relief to be done with summer

Thanks April, hopefully my training will get me there..

Kelli - weird isn't it?

Colby - yeah, Advanced Marathoning has been my running bible lately, we'll see if it works.

Rye - thanks, staying injury free will be the key I think

From Kelli on Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 11:32:39 from 71.219.67.175

Indeed.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

70F, 89%.  8:33 avg.  Cold front is gone, but this is still better than summer...

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From flatlander on Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 11:20:27 from 76.31.26.153

You gotta be sending me cold fronts, no more hot stuff.

From I Just Run on Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 20:21:38 from 71.41.149.142

No cold front here in my area, but we finally got a little rain!!!!

From seeaprilrun on Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 22:35:20 from 205.172.12.229

Perspective is amazing. 70 degrees is still wonderful!

From SlowJoe on Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 10:58:25 from 75.109.104.60

Flat - sorry, I am keeping them to myself!

IJR - I think there is an invisible bubble around Abilene that keeps rain away

April - 70 degrees...I'll take it!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
11.006.0017.00

70F, 92%, SSE 12 mph.  Pretty good run today.  I meant to keep it easy, but by mile 11 my pace had almost progressed to GMP, so I made the decision to finish up with the last 6 at goal pace (6:51, 6:52, 6:58, 6:46, 6:54, 6:47).  This definitely does not yet feel like marathon pace but it was probably too warm to really assess that yet (and I was running a little under GMP anyway).  Hopefully, when/if it cools off again it will feel more sustainable.

7:24/mile overall.

Kinvaras Miles: 17.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Rye on Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 16:31:15 from 75.174.2.111

That's awesome! It's great to let the body take over and have it respond well.

From seeaprilrun on Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 23:12:01 from 205.172.12.229

Your overall pace is great and those last 6 on the back end are fantastic! You have plenty of time to make it marathon pace by January! PFitz has your back.

From I Just Run on Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 11:00:55 from 67.79.11.242

I'm amazed at the ease you're running 6 minute miles now. I can't wait to see you bust your 3:15 marathon by 15 minutes...not just 10! BTW...Have you signed up for Houston already?

From JG on Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 12:19:10 from 71.59.27.33

Joe ... Wow! You are really running strong! Trust what April said, Pfitz has your back ... and when the cooler temps arrive, those paces will be right in your wheelhouse as marathon pace! Keep up the great work ... wish I was going to be in Houston so I could TRY to chase you! :)

From SlowJoe on Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 10:32:47 from 132.3.53.68

Thanks everyone.

IJR - yeah, signed up for Houston months ago (it filled up super fast).

From I Just Run on Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 10:36:40 from 67.79.11.242

I started a list of all the possible races yesterday. It's kinda hard to decide. In one respect I want to run the races I ran last year to see if I can improve but on the other hand I want to run new races just for the experience.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.070.006.07

62F.  6 recovery miles, 8:40-ish on the pace (forgot to look).

My left knee has been ever-so-steadily getting worse over the past month.  It's on the medial side, below the knee - only thing I can find that makes sense is pes anserinus bursitis/tendonitis.  Anyway, I'm lucky enough that I can waltz into the flight doc's office and ask a doctor about it anytime, so I'm gonna go see him in a couple hours and maybe score some of my favorite nsaid.  Right now I don't think this will hold me back too much but it's starting to concern me so I'm probably going to back off a little this week.  I can definitely get through my runs without much pain but it's just not going in the right direction...

**total fail at the docs - apparently now that I am flying again, I can't take Rx nsaids.  Should've known since we can't even take cold medicine without seeing the flight docs.  That was my only reason in going; he listed some more common knee injuries that were certainly not what I have, but I kinda knew the internet would be a better source of specific injury info than the young doctors anyway.  Oh well, ibuprofen it is.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 6.07
Weight: 0.00
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From seeaprilrun on Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 22:38:29 from 68.103.248.97

I have a stash of meloxicam that I had to stop taking because it is bad for stress fractures. You want it? ;) Hopefully it starts going the other direction--training with a nagger pain can be really anxiety provoking.

From SlowJoe on Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 10:13:35 from 132.3.53.68

Thanks April, ibuprofen seems to be enough for now -- I think it's just one of those "-itis" injuries I get every so often that needs some attention for a week or 2...

From I Just Run on Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:39:34 from 67.79.11.242

Oh.. I missed this yesterday. Be careful and don't aggrivate it more (spoken from experience). I was beginning to think you were made of steel!

From allie on Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 09:19:52 from 97.117.82.92

hi joe.

yep, this seems to be the same thing i'm dealing with. it's definitely runnable, but it doesn't make running very enjoyable. thanks for pointing me here. i love the past.

From SlowJoe on Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 09:27:10 from 155.219.241.10

Me too. I lived in Texas back then....ahhh.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

59F.  More relative rest, strengthening surrounding muscle groups, stretching, and lots of Vitamin I.  8:24 pace.  Still feeling like I will be a probably be a go for my 10K this weekend.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From derhammer on Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 12:54:27 from 192.156.110.34

bummer about the knee - hope it gets better soon.

From flatlander on Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 13:36:22 from 198.207.244.102

Yeah, an easy week followed by a 10K should be a good way to recuperate from the knee thing, as long as you warm up really well for the race.

From JG on Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 14:49:03 from 71.59.27.33

Just read yesterdays post, big time bummer, that is the first I have ever heard you mention any pain! Like IJR said, I was starting to think you were made of steel too! Play it smart and back off a little (that means taking a break from being at the top end of the mileage board!), and hopefully it will disappear quickly! Personally, I would not run more than 3 miles the rest of the week, with a full day of rest Friday, and hopefully you will be good to races a strong 10k. You could be looking at a 5 min+ PR over last April, which is absolutely amazing at that distance!

Take a page from the JG race taper ... and back way off ... you'll be amazed at how fast you can run on fully rested legs ... not too mention you want that injury to become distant history ... not lingering!

On a lighter note ... you got me there ... I had to Google Vitamin I ... I was like what the ... and then I quickly realized it is my favorite vitamin! :)

Seriously Joe, you have been an absolute machine the last 17 weeks! I just looked at your weekly chart, and you have only run less than 50 once in that timeframe (when you were forced to by your 'minor procedure'), and most weeks were over 60. Enjoy a resting week, it is well deserved ... have a great 10k, & then hopefully you can jump back into the Phitz plan! With the way you have been running, your body is already acclimated to like Week 10 of the Phitz plan anyway, a few days rest will help, not hurt.

You da man!

From derhammer on Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 17:38:50 from 192.156.110.34

I must say I agree with JG 100%. Your body needs rest to repair and heal itself, only then will it become stronger. I truly believe there is a certain point where a certain mileage will get you the most bang for the buck, and after that the gains are very small or incremental and the increase for injury goes up exponentially. For example, what is the gain of doing a 10 mile recovery run after a hard day vs. a 6 mile recover run? Very little, if any, I think. Elites might get away with it, but they are genetic freaks who do nothing but run, rest all day, and eat.

I have found that recovery weeks are so important for me. But hey, just my 2 cents.

Some light reading:

http://www.runnersworld.com/article/0,7120,s6-241-285--8256-0,00.html

I always repeat this mantra to myself: "The #1 goal of a runner is to get to the starting line healthy!"

From seeaprilrun on Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 19:22:29 from 68.103.248.97

sub 40!

From Rye on Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 19:46:27 from 174.27.71.115

You will have a great race. I am excited to see how well you do! 59 degrees? Guess you are still wearing your shirt?

From Dan on Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 22:48:52 from 24.209.83.20

While I agree with everyone, I also find that if I am hurting I can recover by still running miles, just taking one day of what was going to be a hard run and making it a extra recovery run. It works for my body, but maybe not for everyone. I think you are going to kill this 10k!

From SlowJoe on Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 10:15:46 from 132.3.53.68

Flat - feels like that will be the plan

JG - thanks for the response - when I don't run for a few days, I feel terrible and out of breath for a few runs so this is my version of rest, which (for me) seems to be as good as a day off most of the time.

DH - I am with you on the mileage thing, there's no sense in piling it on if you're not 100%

April - I hope! wish it was going to be cooler...

Rye - 59 degrees was definitely shirt weather.

Dan - I am the same way, days off just make me antsy and don't seem to provide much additional recovery than a short, slow jog. I also hate recovery runs but ya gotta compromise somewhere I guess!

From JG on Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 11:20:29 from 71.59.27.33

Understood Joe, everyone's body is different, and you are the only one that knows what is best for you! I wish I could run higher mileage than I do, but it breaks my body down, I am an old man! I hope you know that anytime I offer an opinion on anyone's blog, it is mot so much an opinion as what is the right or wrong way to go about things, just a different perspective that may or may not have value! I completely understand that some people thrive and improve with 100 mile weeks, and I think that is great! I also know people that excel and improve on running 3 days a week. I am trying to find the right balance for myself ... and while some would argue there is a right way and a wrong way to do it, I believe each individual has to find their own right balance.

In the end, we all can only hope that we arrive at the start line healthy and ready to roll, having maximized our training to put forth the best performance we can.

Your progress has been remarkable, you are looking at huge PR's in any distance you race right now with the progress you are making ... so I was not suggesting you change anything ... just enjoy an easier week of recovery so you stay healthy! Run like a champion Saturday! :)

From SlowJoe on Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 11:26:37 from 132.3.53.68

No, I know it's just another perspective and I like having your opinions and everyone else's. It's pretty much the reason I decided to make my blog public, hoping to get other's insight and ideas. Without people tempering me in a different direction, I would tend to over-do things and make unwise decisions at times. So thanks for chiming in, and for pumping me up for the race!

From derhammer on Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 15:12:02 from 65.67.40.73

I was thinking (as I ran today on the trail) to not discount the benefit of running some easy/recovery runs on a soft surface. Even hard packed dirt is better than pavement or concrete. I know many high mileage runners stay fresh by running a ton miles of softer surfaces. I don't know what options you have up there, but it is something else to thing about.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

72F, SSE 12 mph.  8:22 pace.  My knee is definitely feeling better.  At this point though, might as well finish off Thursday and Friday with easy runs to be fresh for Saturday.  I'll kinda be tapered, but it makes me nervous to have run so slow all week and then have to go 2 min/mile faster for the race.  I did a stride at the end of the run today - felt fine.  Maybe a couple minutes @ 10K pace on Friday...

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
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From I Just Run on Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 11:40:45 from 67.79.11.242

Ok...I took a big breath when I read you report...now you're not fibbing on this are you...? Your 10K is going to seem like a stroll in the park :-)

From derhammer on Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 15:08:47 from 65.67.40.73

That's good news! I think your legs will remember how to go fast. ;-)

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
11.380.0011.38

63F, N 19-29 mph.  7:56 AP.  Cold front arriving!  I don't think the coolest air will hang around for the race, but we'll probably see mid 60s for the start -- not ideal but not bad at all.

Knee is probably fine; I'm still doing 2400 mg/day of Vitamin I, but will probably start weaning myself off soon.  Not completely out of the woods with this one, but close...

** PM - I won't be able to run tomorrow morning so I decided to bite the bullet and will take a day off tomorrow.  However, in order to live with this decision I needed to get in a few miles after the kids went to bed, and while Danielle was watching.....Grey's Anatomy....  Threw in 2 x 1 minute at 10K pace since I hadn't really gotten the legs moving all week.  4.31 miles @ 7:57 AP for the PM run.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 4.311150s Red #2 Miles: 7.07
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 11:17:10 from 67.79.11.242

Nice weather! Nice run and nice recovery! What Vitamin I ?

From SlowJoe on Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 14:30:07 from 132.3.53.68

Every runner's favorite - ibuprofen

From derhammer on Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 15:35:34 from 192.156.110.39

Wise to back off at the first sign of something rather than try to push through (like I have so many times) and suffer the consequences.

From Steam8 on Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 18:53:46 from 166.70.55.77

Yikes....I hope all is well with the knee! It doesn't seem to be hurting your speed!

From flatlander on Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 19:57:08 from 76.31.26.153

What is up with your wind. That looks brutal. Good luck Saturday, you'll do fantastic.

From Dan on Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 19:59:58 from 24.209.83.20

Nice work Joe- I was using plenty of that after my doc visit before, so good idea to ease up. Looking forward to your report.

From seeaprilrun on Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 20:12:12 from 205.172.12.230

mid 60s is good enough conditions for a PR as long as your buddy south wind stays out of the picture. Good luck. Get that sub-40.

From Rye on Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 23:20:11 from 174.27.78.215

Great run today joe. Good luck with the race! Vitamin I???? Be careful with that stuff!

From DaleG on Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 15:05:27 from 71.199.57.238

Nice job. Have fun at the race.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
0.000.000.00

Played a round of golf this afternoon and shot 90 thanks to a lousy back 9 (42-48).  I had a birdie putt on the last hole for the sub-90 and just missed.  Wonder if that is a sign that I will run like a 40:01 tomorrow.  Actually I would be pretty happy with that anyway.

Weight: 0.00
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From JG on Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 20:41:41 from 71.59.27.33

32 & you haven't played in how long? Sweet! I am thinking you will hit whatever time you shoot for Joe, you won't have to read the break in the last 10 meters to make it! Good Luck!!

From SlowJoe on Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 20:48:10 from 75.109.104.60

I wish it was a 32! Might need to play more than twice a year to pull that off. Thanks, and good luck in your 10-miler as well.

From I Just Run on Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 22:50:28 from 71.41.149.142

Ha ha...Golf will get you good and mad and ready to run really hard...! Very good tactical move to sike yourself up for tomorrow's race :-)

Race: Abilene 10k (6.2 Miles) 00:39:42, Place overall: 2, Place in age division: 1
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
2.606.208.80

66F.  Warmish, but pretty good racing weather for this time of year.

I have been looking forward to this race for awhile -- haven't raced in 3 months and wanted to see some progress from all the summer slogging.  Some mile repeats I did a few weeks back told me I'd be really close to breaking 40, but it was cooler when I did those so I had some doubts today.

The course was good in that it was as flat as you can get, and it was USATF Certified.  The bad news was that there were 31 90-degree turns and 4 turns that were closer to 180 degrees; a lot of course crammed into kind of a small space.

So the race started and it's me and red singlet running by ourselves for first.  Like Flatlander has said, we're not terribly fast in Texas.  Anyway, I stayed right behind him for about 4 miles.  He started to gap me in the 5th mile and I pathetically tried to stay close but it was not to be.  I could tell by the way he was thanking the course volunteers all along the way that he had some wind left that I did not.  So he ended up maybe 15-20 seconds ahead.

I should have turned off auto lap on Garmin because they had mile markers and I knew it would measure the course short with all the turns.  But, here are the garmin splits:

6:19, 6:25, 6:31, 6:33, 6:33, 6:27, 0:55.

Measured it at 6.15 miles, but like I said, USATF certified...I can definitely understand a 1% Garmin error with the maze of a course we ran through.

So, I think I'm right on track with the BQ goal.  I still have some improving to do to get there, but not an overwhelming amount.  With a good cycle, I think I'll be where I need to be come January.

official results

finish line pictures...not only did we have to follow the golf cart guy for 40 minutes, he also got in the way of the shot!

 

Afterwards came the Kids' K

Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 8.80
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From ACorn on Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 15:53:00 from 24.2.76.146

Great race! Sub 40 is no joke.

From CookieLegs on Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 15:59:03 from 71.32.233.146

Great PR on a legit course! Definitely all your hard work is paying off. This has to feel good - congratulations!

From JG on Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 17:01:09 from 71.59.27.33

Nice Job Joe! I knew you had it in you, those mile repeats you did were crazy fast! Congratulations, hop to join you in the sub 40 club one day soon! :)

I hope running at that smokin pace did not flare up any of the pain issues?

From derhammer on Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 17:15:00 from 70.113.125.159

way to go, I knew you had it in you!

From Rye on Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 17:20:17 from 174.27.78.215

Wow! What a great race for you! Even if you still have that ugly shirt! Send me a private message with your address and I will send you a nice running RED SOX t shirt. That alone will help you run faster!

From seeaprilrun on Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 21:30:49 from 205.172.12.229

I knew you would bust out that sub-40! Love the pics--I had already checked them out on your wife's facebook! Great job Joe. I'm jealous!

From I Just Run on Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 00:01:59 from 71.41.149.142

I was right...you are a machine!!! And I see your fans even wear orange, I see one of them in your first picture :-) Way to go Joe!!!

From Burt on Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 01:27:04 from 72.223.91.148

Stupid Harold!

From DaleG on Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 01:52:36 from 71.199.57.238

Truly impressive!!! 2nd place overall and 1st in your division is really great. Thanks for the pictures. I didn't know golf carts could go that fast.

From TexasLindsey on Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 11:04:21 from 71.153.27.31

Wow! Great job!! You are getting SUPER FAST!

From JG on Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 11:55:22 from 71.59.27.33

Btw, nice pic mid stride, did you run most of the race above the curb? :-)

From SlowJoe on Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 17:53:39 from 75.109.104.60

ACorn - thanks, kinda relieved to get it

CL - hey, nice to hear from you and thanks!

JG - see you in the club in 6 days!

DH - thanks!

Rye - ugh, I would have to kick my own @$$ if I wore that!

Thanks April - guessing you'll probably hit your first 10k split that fast next weekend!

IJR - I had to pay that guy to show up and clap.

Burt - you know, I usually buy most of my golf carts from him but I might re-think that now

DG - thanks - Harold makes a mean golf cart

Thanks Lindsey

JG - pretty obvious I need lessons from you on the finishing kick!

From Dan on Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 21:58:12 from 24.209.83.20

Joe! Fantastic race man. Very well done, I think you need a red singlet now as well.

From JG on Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 12:40:05 from 71.59.27.33

Thanks for the vote of confidence Joe, but it won't happen in 6 days ... but hopefully late fall or winter. My upcoming weekend races are just devoted to 19.3 miles of marathon pace running ... or maybe a little faster. Oh, and I like a strong finishing kick, but I don't think it would help racing you when you are pulling away in the first mile! Those are awesome consistent splits, I am totally psyched to see you race Houston!

From baldnspicy on Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 16:56:40 from 72.77.67.247

Fantastic race, Joe! It's a good thing you TX guys aren't too fast or Harold's Golf Carts...er, wait...Cars(?) would have had to give up the pacing job to Harley Davidson. :-)

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
17.000.0017.00

76F, SW 13-22 mph.  Believe it or not, it actually got up around 100 degrees yesterday afternoon.  So, a warm morning today but no problem because I was not in a hurry.  Pfitz wanted 8 @ MP today but I don't think he knew I had a 10k yesterday, so I let the legs dictate the pace and meandered around the industrial parks and ghettos of South Cental Abilene.  Beautiful place, this town.  8:06 avg.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 17.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From JG on Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 11:57:50 from 71.59.27.33

Great run after a race day, I see you took the scenic route

From I Just Run on Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 11:06:13 from 67.79.11.242

I don't think it's fair for JG to make fun of our senic views here in Texas...with all his lakes and hills and trees and green stuff...I think I've forgotten what it's called!

From Rye on Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 23:22:03 from 75.174.14.230

It's nice to love where you live. Great run for you!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.060.006.06

65F, ESE 10 mph.  8:36 pace.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 6.06
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
10.000.0010.00

67F.  Instead of the 10 w/ 5 LT that was on the schedule I just did 10 GA miles today.  Didn't see the point of doing a tempo just 3 days after a race.  Plus I have 8 @ MP on Sunday, and a knee thing that hasn't quite decided to disappear.

I did manage to get tangled up in a tumbleweed today in the dark, so that was something new.  7:42 AP overall.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 10.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From derhammer on Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 10:45:55 from 192.156.110.39

Tumbleweed - it's good to keep runs interesting.

From seeaprilrun on Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 23:07:56 from 205.172.12.230

That's a new one. Now it's not animals, it's plants.

From Rye on Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 00:27:22 from 75.174.14.230

Just curious..... anybody witness the entanglement!

From SlowJoe on Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 10:53:05 from 132.3.53.68

DH - it was hiding out, just waiting for me.

April - don't mock me, those "plants" are evil savages.

Rye - nope, it was in the middle of nowhere

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
14.000.0014.00

63F.  MLR today and an early, early start.  Dark the whole time with no moonlight either -- which I mention as my excuse for biting the dust once on the dirt roads.  No damage done except to my pride.  7:49 AP.

Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 14.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 10:31:27 from 67.79.11.242

That's kinda like that saying about a tree that falls in the forest...If there's no one there to hear it, does it make a sound? So what time did you start?

From TexasLindsey on Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 10:53:04 from 71.153.27.31

Wow! That's alot of miles this week! By the way, you need to update your 10k PR. With how you've been training and improving, you'll probably PR all over the place this year!

From I Just Run on Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 10:54:29 from 67.79.11.242

We've renamed him "The Man of Steel"...!!!

From SlowJoe on Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 11:03:15 from 132.3.53.68

IJR - a bit after 4...I guess if I never mentioned falling then it wouldn't have happened huh?

TL - thanks for the reminder, just updated it. The official results had me 2 seconds faster than my watch...so I had to change it!

From seeaprilrun on Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 18:06:07 from 68.103.248.97

Tumbleweeds. Tripping on dirt. So fast, yet,...clumsy.

From Kelli on Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 18:31:08 from 71.219.67.175

OUCH, glad no damage was done. You need to get a headlamp!

From derhammer on Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 15:37:03 from 192.156.110.40

Not too worry - I have had my fair share of running gaffes. Fortunately when it is dark no one sees. However, the incident with the low hanging tree branch did require a trip to the emergency room and stitches! :-)

From I Just Run on Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 16:16:32 from 166.205.9.39

Now that doesn't fall into the category of "tree in the forest" even though there was a tree involved :-)

From SlowJoe on Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 23:17:23 from 75.109.104.60

April - it was more than dirt, ok? I'm sure there was a stick or a rock or something...

Kelli - you are probably right, but I think I'd rather fall down once and a while.

DH - wow, that is a real running injury - I hope you told everyone you got the cut in a fight

IJR - yeah no hiding that one

From Kelli on Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 23:37:37 from 71.219.67.175

Yeah, I do not like wearing them either that is why I make my husband. ;o)

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

70F.  8:54 AP.  One of the kids has plagued us all with a cold they brought home from school.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 15:40:26 from 166.205.9.39

My wife and son both have but not me...yet...!

From Rye on Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 19:41:56 from 174.27.114.198

Sorry, not as sorry as I am about the Redsox!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
12.310.0012.31

65F, N 12 mph.  Felt crappy today.  7:55/mile avg, although I'm surprised it was that fast.  I guess I'm not doing my immune system any favors by running a lot but it's just a cold - it'll go away eventually.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 12.31
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 11:03:01 from 67.79.11.242

Both my wife and son have a cold too! Seems a lot of people down here are sick right now. Hope you feel better soon!

Hey Joe,

Maybe we should sign up for St George for next year...It sure seems like a fun race!

From SlowJoe on Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 11:16:45 from 132.3.53.68

Thanks, and good idea - especially because we can wait and see how everyone does first!

From JG on Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 13:18:05 from 71.59.27.33

Sub 8 miles feeling crappy, gotta love it! Nice run, stay healthy! If you guys have you BQ times at a winter or Spring race, I would highly recommend the St. George experience to go for a fall PR & great time to get you into Boston 2014, but it is probably too late to get you into 2013. Also, you have to plan on a few days to explore southwestern Utah, it is beautiful country, the marathon is just a good excuse to go there!

From I Just Run on Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 13:27:36 from 67.79.11.242

If we BQ this fall or winter we could run Boston in 2013...right? And St George sign up (lottery) isn't until April...I think?

From JG on Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 13:35:26 from 71.59.27.33

That is correct, St. George has open registration for the entire month of April (does not matter what order you register in, and then after registration closes, they do the lottery, I think first weekend in May. So you will know whether you have a solid BQ time or not ... or if you need to shoot for something like Top of Utah for your BQ. Just find a good race early in 2012 to lock in your BQ! I know Joe will take care of it in Houston!

From seeaprilrun on Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 17:22:45 from 64.37.14.162

I concur that Saint George is gorgeous and I can't wait to run the course! I am still on tail end of a cold. It's only lasted two weeks...

From Steam8 on Sat, Oct 01, 2011 at 10:37:09 from 166.70.55.77

Sorry you have a cold...it seems to be going around. 3 of my kids have one right now.

Run St. George next year all of you. Hopefully we will all get in and have a FRB party of eating the night before!

From Rye on Sat, Oct 01, 2011 at 11:45:15 from 174.27.117.251

Joe... with your cold, take the usual vitamin C and sleep and all that garb and your cold will last about a week and a half. Trying to run and go about your daily activities it will last about 10 days or so......

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

72F - ran later in the morning, after our oldest's soccer game.  8:34/mile.

Then hopped on to watch the live video of the finish line at St. George, thinking I timed it right to definitely catch April, but the clock said 3:53.  Off by an hour - I was thinking 2 hour time difference for some reason.  Dumb.  Hope everyone did well!

1150s Red #2 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Sat, Oct 01, 2011 at 14:46:09 from 71.41.149.142

Kinda lonesome on the blog today...Seems everyone's at St George :-(

From Dan on Sat, Oct 01, 2011 at 16:32:20 from 24.209.83.20

Nice week Joe- yep big day for many!

From CookieLegs on Sat, Oct 01, 2011 at 23:42:30 from 71.36.85.191

Yea, the live video feed was pretty cool, even if it did get a little blurry at times. I saw a short blond in a black and green shirt come through right at 2:59:59 - pretty sure it was April! She sure did awesome! You're running awesome this year, too, & I hope your cold is going away.

From seeaprilrun on Sun, Oct 02, 2011 at 00:56:36 from 199.36.244.11

It was me! Thanks for caring enough to watch! How's the cold?

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.008.0016.00

59F.  Today I did the 8 @ GMP workout that I postponed last week.

8 easy miles were about 7:57/mile.  One one isolated stretch I saw some kind of big cat (3-4 times the size of a large house cat) walking on the road ahead.  Some people have said they've seen cougar/mountain lion-looking animals around here, guess it's true.  Then some deer crossed the road right in front of me and hurdled a barbed wire fence.  One got tangled up a little and had to thrash around to get free.  He looked ok though as he sprinted off.

Next 8 were 6:52 AP (6:59, 6:54, 6:57, 6:56, 6:55, 6:55, 6:53, 6:25).  Popped off a 10K mile to finish it up, aided by some downhill.

7:25 AP for the 16 miles.

I'm usually disappointed with how GMP feels, and today was no exception.  Just means I have work to do I guess.  If I had to guess, I'm probably in 3:10 shape right now so I need another good improvement spurt sometime in the next 15 weeks to kill that last 5 minutes.  I definitely still have a cold, so hopefully that factored into the difficulty (can't blame it on the weather today).

Next weekend I'll run the Tyler half marathon and, taking a page from JG's playbook, will make it a MP run.

Kinvaras Miles: 16.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From ACorn on Sun, Oct 02, 2011 at 14:31:34 from 24.2.76.146

That's a solid 8 miles. Keeping them all in the 6s is no easy task. Well done.

From Burt on Sun, Oct 02, 2011 at 15:14:32 from 72.223.91.148

Did you get the cougar's number for me?

From flatlander on Sun, Oct 02, 2011 at 18:00:54 from 75.220.242.19

Joe, good run. One thing that happens to me is that I don't get much faster immediately after the weather turns cool, I just start progressing when I wasn't before. So I think you have enough time to knock off some more minutes. I totally believe it was a cougar, I don't think there are any bobcats in that area.

From I Just Run on Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 10:41:54 from 67.79.11.242

Another good solid run Joe. I bet you can easily cut off several minutes as the weather gets cooler.

From seeaprilrun on Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 15:32:38 from 72.205.227.206

Very solid tempo run. It will feel easier soon. You seem to have a tendency to plateau for a while, then suddenly have an improvement explosion--I bet you will have one of those before January and this pace will start to feel very, very manageable!

From SlowJoe on Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 14:40:03 from 132.3.53.68

Acorn - thanks

Burt - HEY-O!

Flat - I think the same thing happened to me last year, with the delayed benefit. I researched the big cat thing a little and it turns out there are indeed some cougars in the area. Both the cats, and the ones Burt likes that smoke like a chimney and hang out at Guitars and Cadillacs Bar.

IJR - thanks

April - that does seem to be the pattern with me - let's hope for one good explosion soon!

From JG on Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 23:03:29 from 71.59.27.33

Joe, because you did not do a fall marathon, you never really got a taper, you have had 4 months of high mileage. Take a week to get over the cold & let the leg rest, and you can jump right back in the phitz plan without missing a beat. Overuse injuries creep up on us, rest up before it becomes an injury, you have a big ramp up,ahead of you.

From SlowJoe on Fri, Oct 07, 2011 at 10:10:37 from 132.3.53.68

JG - good advice, thanks - you are right that there is probably a cumulative effect of so many higher mileage weeks. I am still a new-ish runner and probably need time to adjust. I think after Sunday, I will do just what you said..

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

61F.  9:11 AP.

I don't think I'm going to run tomorrow.  I'm tired, sick, busy at work early tomorrow, my knee is still achy, and not being able to tally a single sub-9 mile this morning was probably my legs making a cry for help.  And I just dropped $600 at the vet for a cat that looks like he's on death's doorstep anyway.  Yeah, I'm not running tomorrow.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Rye on Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 20:40:53 from 174.27.92.17

Get feeling better! Hope the pet pulls through. Darn animals..... we get so attached.

From Dan on Mon, Oct 03, 2011 at 23:31:04 from 24.209.83.20

Get better- Trust me, I feel your pain. Enjoy the day off!

From TexasLindsey on Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 08:39:44 from 70.253.139.28

I think it's actually good for your training to take an extra day off every once in a while... mentally and physically. Hang in there!

From I Just Run on Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 10:33:56 from 67.79.11.242

Don't run tomorrow, Let you knee rest. Sorry about your cat. I know what it's like (with all my horses, dogs and cats I have) its hard to decide what to do sometimes.

Life is busy...!

From DaleG on Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 14:17:24 from 71.199.57.238

Yes, take a break

From SlowJoe on Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 14:28:04 from 132.3.53.68

Rye - why do they make the price to put them down so enticingly low?

Dan - got some good sleep and feeling better already

TL - yeah I started thinking that taking even a single day off was a waste, but I guess you gotta listen to the signals.

IJR - it's almost like the vet knows the exact price of your conscience! Mine must be $601

Dale - done deal!

From seeaprilrun on Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 18:38:16 from 72.205.227.206

That's one of the best slough of reasons I've ever seen to take a day off. Enjoy!

(and get better)

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
10.000.0010.00

67F, SSE 12 mph.  Running felt horrible this morning so I turned around at 5 to go back home early - I'd planned on 12.  I just figured I'd be better off with more rest since I am obviously not myself right now, running-wise.  Then around mile 7 I started to feel better and the pace dropped while my breathing slowed down almost to normal "easy" levels.  Never had it take that long before.  Weird - 8:20s and 8:10s felt like tempo pace initially and then 7:30s later almost felt like recovery when I snapped out of it.  I still quit at 10 miles because there's still something wrong with me, hopefully just the sickness making everything more difficult and out of sorts.  Ended up with 7:53/mile.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 10.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Burt on Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 15:52:07 from 68.14.209.26

Did you have chili dogs for dinner last night like me?

From Rye on Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 21:49:19 from 174.27.109.71

Burt.. that sounds gross. Joe, it's amazig what a day of rest can do!

From I Just Run on Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 22:07:56 from 71.41.149.142

I had hot dogs last night for dinner and I feel fine...? I'd say rest 2-3 days, you're not going to lose any conditioning in that short amount of time.

From Burt on Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 22:09:07 from 72.223.91.148

Chili dogs are the greatest invention of the last two centuries.

From JG on Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 22:35:39 from 71.59.27.33

Good run Joe, when my legs are tired they often don't loosen up until about mile 7, makes one get concerned early in the run when a slow pace feels hard!

From SlowJoe on Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 22:59:47 from 75.109.104.60

Burt - nope, chili fries...completely different

Rye - I've heard about these "days off' before but figured they were mostly theoretical

IJR - I might end up doing that after Sunday if it goes as poorly as I expect.

JG - similar story here, but this one was alarmingly bad...just a temporary rut, I think

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.000.008.00

68F, SSE 24-32 mph.  hello south wind.  Pretty much just punching the clock today, slogged around in the wind, 8:10-ish on the AP.  Rethinking my training....

1150s Red #1 Miles: 8.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From flatlander on Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 13:54:27 from 198.207.244.102

Sorry about the tough runs this week. I'm sure it's just the flu or whatever you have. Your wind is unbelievable, hang in there.

From I Just Run on Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 15:24:06 from 67.79.11.242

I hate to run in the strong wind. I never feel good during or after a windy run. Hang in there!

From Rye on Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 19:12:21 from 174.27.114.143

Joe, flat and IJR.... It was 34 degrees and snowing in Idaho Falls today. Enjoy those Texas temps fellow bloggers!

From I Just Run on Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 19:27:08 from 67.79.11.242

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..........Wait a minute, I don't like cold weather :-)

From seeaprilrun on Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 22:20:04 from 205.172.12.229

Rethinking your training? I wouldn't worry much...you've been ill, it's taxing on the body. Maybe you need a recovery week and then you can jump back into it.

From SlowJoe on Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 22:50:53 from 75.109.104.60

thanks all - it is also my knee that is a little frusturating. I will snap out of it...

From Dan on Fri, Oct 07, 2011 at 09:37:11 from 24.209.83.20

I know that punch clock feeling, good job getting out as I think those can be the toughest runs. Sorry about the knee Joe- I know my body often has me rethinking things, do what keeps it strong.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
0.002.082.08

71F, SSE 27-38 mph.  So I was just going to run a few easy miles today but the base had their (mandatory) fun run this morning on the airfield.  If you don't know anything about flying, runways are oriented/built to minimize crosswinds based on typical wind directions.  Well they definitely got it right because wind was coming right down the pipe.

It started, and in typical military fashion, everyone takes off in a sprint.  I'm going 5-something pace and there are 50+ people in front of me within seconds.  Slowed it down, and ran 6:22 with a first-mile tailwind, probably 10k effort overall, very easy with the tailwind.  Mile 2 was down runway 16 into the teeth of the wind.  I went from about 20th to 6th on this portion, running a 6:45.  That was both fun (passing everyone) and terrible (ever try to run fast into a 30 knot wind?).  Ended up 6th.

No warmup or cooldown.  Didn't feel like it...shame on me!

Saucony A4 Miles: 2.08
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Fri, Oct 07, 2011 at 10:52:03 from 67.79.11.242

"Mandatory fun"....Hummm. Maybe for you but I bet a lot of people weren't having fun :-)

Hope your knee feels better with a few days of rest.

BTW...I just made a resolution to stretch, warm-up and cool down...I've never really done this (BAD ME).

From JG on Fri, Oct 07, 2011 at 17:08:25 from 71.59.27.33

Sounds fun, they didn't make you do it in combat boots did they? lol

Good luck this weekend, I am sure you will do great, then take an easy week. :)

From seeaprilrun on Fri, Oct 07, 2011 at 20:06:48 from 72.205.227.206

Nice little mini-speedwork session. I hope you have a good weekend too and feel rejuvenated shortly. You need rest!

From Rye on Fri, Oct 07, 2011 at 20:33:45 from 174.27.114.143

Your awesome!

From Kelli on Fri, Oct 07, 2011 at 21:20:46 from 71.219.83.151

SO, military people run like kids---they do not know how to pace themselves???

I love that it was MANDATORY and FUN.

From SlowJoe on Sat, Oct 08, 2011 at 13:57:42 from 64.217.180.63

IJR - they managed to suck the "fun" out for everyone

JG - thanks - that is definitely the plan

April/Rye - thanks!

Kelli - yep, exactly like kids! Not many distance runners, and 2 miles is apparently a distance run for us.

From JG on Sat, Oct 08, 2011 at 14:04:34 from 71.59.27.33

What was the winning time? Maybe next year you can break the course record Slow Joe!

From SlowJoe on Sat, Oct 08, 2011 at 15:12:29 from 64.217.180.63

JG - I'd say the leaders were 15-20 seconds ahead. I might have stayed up with them initially if I'd given a real effort the first mile, but who knows. The second mile ended up being close to all-out effort, just slow into the wind obviously, and I actually gained a little ground.

From Kelli on Sun, Oct 09, 2011 at 00:16:27 from 71.219.83.151

Well, a 5k is called CROSS COUNTRY.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
4.000.004.00

Easy 4, no watch (yes, it's true).  Tomorrow Danielle and I run the Tyler Half, just for fun.  I'm still going to make it a solid effort, and hopefully get a few MP and tempo miles.  It's a hilly course so definitely good for a workout.

Weight: 0.00
Comments
From JG on Sat, Oct 08, 2011 at 14:10:22 from 71.59.27.33

Sounds like a good plan! It is fun to go out slow and then cruise past people the last 10k. Good luck to both of you!

From flatlander on Sat, Oct 08, 2011 at 16:52:48 from 76.31.26.153

Safe trip to Tyler, and good luck to both of you.

From TexasLindsey on Sat, Oct 08, 2011 at 18:42:35 from 70.253.139.28

Good luck tomorrow! I heard it's pretty hilly. Oh - my friend, Greg, who is also on the Pftiz plan is running the full marathon at Tyler. If you hang around to see those guys come in, you can't miss Greg... he'll be wearing a tank top that says "Greg" on it! LOL

From Dan on Sat, Oct 08, 2011 at 22:06:42 from 24.209.83.20

AH no watch... best wished tomorrow!

From I Just Run on Sun, Oct 09, 2011 at 17:50:16 from 166.137.137.110

Hope things go well in the race...Hope you get some cooler weather to run.

From SlowJoe on Sun, Oct 09, 2011 at 19:52:17 from 75.109.104.60

JG - yeah, that was pretty fun - you've had the right idea this whole time!

Thanks Flat

TL - haha, didn't see him. It was definitely hilly, I am happy to be back in the plains

Thanks Dan

IJR - not cool, but still had fun

Race: Tyler Half Marathon (13.14 Miles) 01:33:08, Place overall: 19, Place in age division: 3
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
11.866.1418.00

73F, 73%, E 14 mph.  Today was definitely no-shirt weather, even with Danielle's disapproving looks.

I just did this as a progressive effort "fun" run, and it was the right decision.  That course is definitely hillier than anything I have ever run on, and a real sweat-fest.  Here are the splits:

7:22, 7:09, 7:24, 7:15, 7:15, 7:10, 7:11, 7:10, 6:56, 7:13, 6:46, 6:48, 6:44, 0:46 (5:29 pace).

The splits don't look cleanly progressive, you'll just have to trust me the effort was -- lotsa hills meant pace was all over the place.  The highlight was a guy I was running with in mile 4 or 5 (he was gasping for air) telling me he was just on a recovery run today so might not want to pace off of him.  He dropped back  pretty quick after that...I smiled about it for awhile.  I did still manage 3rd in AG which came with a nice plaque.  And of course a cheap PR; the all-out effort will come in November in our local half.  Flatter and cooler!

Afterward, I ran the course backwards to meet up with Danielle and run her in.  We had a really good time and she passed everyone in the last tenth of a mile, including me.

Results

Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 18.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From ACorn on Sun, Oct 09, 2011 at 23:23:34 from 24.2.76.146

Nice race slowjoe! Congrats on the 3rd place for your AG!

From derhammer on Sun, Oct 09, 2011 at 23:42:36 from 70.113.125.159

Great job, Joe. Definitely a smart idea to turn it into a great training run.

From flatlander on Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 10:45:29 from 76.31.26.153

Congrats on a very nice training run. You should go for the win in Abilene. 1:28 might actually be conservative for you, given some of your recent training times. Congrats to Danielle as well.

From JG on Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 12:49:05 from 71.59.27.33

Great running Joe! I agree with Flat, go for the trophy in Abilene!

From Burt on Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 15:32:43 from 68.14.209.26

I agree with JG, but not Flat, go for the win! You don't want to get beat by two girls again, that's for sure. Especially with no shirt on and no boat.

From seeaprilrun on Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 18:04:56 from 68.103.241.11

Wow! a fast-finish 1:33 without event trying! I agree with flat, you got a sub-1:28 in you going all out.

From SlowJoe on Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 20:04:49 from 75.109.104.60

Acorn/DH - thanks!

Flat/JG - all depends on who shows up...they had a couple 1:28s last year so it would be perfect competition if that happened again

Burt - Funny, I passed a girl in mile 10 or so and they told her she was 3rd female. I was pretty pleased at the time that it meant I only got double chick'd. Who could be upset with that?

April - well, I might have cut out at most another 2 minutes with 100% effort but no more than that; I definitely pushed the last 5k. Hoping the conditions at Abilene will make up for the rest....wishful thinking maybe...

From Rye on Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 14:46:46 from 70.58.163.66

You are so primed! Great year of training is paying off!

From TexasLindsey on Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 14:49:15 from 70.253.132.214

That is an awesome time with all those hills and the weather! It was so humid that day! MUGGY yucky windy weather. Most people I know that raced did not have their best days.

How do your legs feel now after running all those hills at a speedy pace?

From SlowJoe on Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 09:35:55 from 75.109.104.60

Thanks Rye

TL - actually, they were pretty sore...I could tell that I don't ever run any real hills

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

68F, 87%.  2 full days off to start my "reset week."  8:42 AP today.

After this week I'll be back up to speed with most weeks 65-70 miles until Houston.  I'm keeping the long runs (with MP) and medium-long runs from the pfitz plan, and simply throwing in workouts when I most feel like it, but only once a week.  Mostly tempos and maybe some 800s when I'm feeling really ambitious.  This will be a small step up from Oklahoma training this spring.  Small steps is the way to go I think.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From JG on Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 00:16:05 from 71.59.27.33

Glad you took a couple days rest! Your plan sounds good ... but I think you have already taken a big step towards Houston, over where you were this past May! Stay healthy & keep running so strong!

From derhammer on Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 10:46:16 from 70.113.125.159

Joe, why the change in training plans? I thought you were committed to Pfitz.

From SlowJoe on Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 12:32:26 from 75.109.104.60

Thanks JG.

DH - I can't ever stay committed to anything...it's a miracle that I've managed to stick to running itself for 2 solid years! But actually I am keeping a lot of the pfitz plan intact, just keeping the weekly mileage down where I want it, and keeping my workout options open so I'm not tied to the schedule.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.000.008.00

56F, foggy!  Haven't seen 100% humidity here in awhile but didn't matter because the cool temps are back...hopefully for good this time.  7:57 AP.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 8.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From TexasLindsey on Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 15:52:34 from 71.153.27.157

I see that Tyler was a PR half marathon for you. My friend who's on the same pftiz plan as you PR'd too. Also, both of you did it as a "training run" and not racing. I guess that has to do with HR, huh?

One of the coaches at my running store was talking about Greg PR'ing at Tyler... seriously one of the most difficult courses around here ...on a training run?? He thought that was just very impressive! I told him there was a guy on my blog who did the exact same thing on the exact same plan. All I can say is the real race is going to be crazy good if this is what you can do on a training run.

One of these days, I may have to give this Pftiz plan and heart rate training a try.

From SlowJoe on Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 17:10:36 from 132.3.53.68

Well, I knew it would be a slow course and that I would be doing a fast one in a few weeks... but don't get me wrong, I was pushing at the end - just more not so much at the beginning. My old PR was only 1:39, although I did a 1:36 first half at the OKC marathon.

So, my wife and I were entertained by Greg on the Tyler Rose facebook page the other day. He was pretty much taunting and ridiculing the guy who won (beat Greg by 20 seconds or so) because he had a 20-minute positive split. The winner ran 1:20, 1:39 and Greg ran 1:34, 1:25. He called the guy out for not knowing what he was doing.

From TexasLindsey on Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 18:56:57 from 71.153.27.157

Thanks for telling me. I went on FB and found what you were talking about... Too funny!! (I sent you a private message).

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
10.000.0010.00

61F, 7:48/mile avg.

Kinvaras Miles: 10.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Steam8 on Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 15:59:23 from 174.253.164.224

Jealous! Nice run...nice temps!

From Rye on Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 22:10:14 from 174.27.76.167

What's up with all the details? Nice run anyway!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
4.500.004.50

63F.  Managed to squeeze in a few easy miles before my daughter's soccer game.  8:32 AP.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 4.50
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From seeaprilrun on Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 13:38:55 from 68.103.242.223

Way to get something in! Is this the end of your reset week before getting back into heavier training?

From Dan on Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 20:48:11 from 24.209.83.20

Does your daughter have your killer instinct in soccer like you do in running?

Way to get some miles in.

From SlowJoe on Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 12:28:28 from 75.109.104.60

April - yeah, I think I'm out of my funk now...time to start running again

Dan - nope, she is a bit timid and is content to just be out there and run along side the action. Maybe running will be her sport.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
12.503.0015.50

64F, SSW 12 mph.  Started in the 8's and progressed to GMP for the last few miles, with a half-mile cooldown at the end.  Overall avg was 7:33/mile.

Reset week did its trick, I feel like I'm ready to start running the miles again.

Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 15.50
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From seeaprilrun on Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 16:52:41 from 68.103.242.223

Wow nice AP--glad you are feeling fresh and ready to go.

From I Just Run on Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 18:00:50 from 71.41.149.142

Nice running...man of steel!

From ACorn on Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 21:10:47 from 24.2.76.146

Solid run slowjoe! I think you may need a new blog name.

From derhammer on Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 10:54:24 from 192.156.110.40

Good to hear that you feel revitalized. 3 months out is just about the right time to start training hard - so perfect timing.

From DaleG on Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 13:05:09 from 71.199.57.238

Nice miles and I'm glad you're feeling good again.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.050.005.05

67F, S 15 mph.  9:05 AP.  I think I needed the recovery, I was a little more tired that I would've thought from yesterday.  Cold front is coming in tomorrow...

1150s Red #2 Miles: 5.05
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From JG on Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 14:46:13 from 71.59.27.33

Nice recovery run to a great run yesterday!

From seeaprilrun on Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 18:28:09 from 68.103.242.223

Cold front is here! Yeahhhh!

From Burt on Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 23:26:43 from 72.223.91.148

67? Sounds like the cold front is already there.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
10.130.0010.13

53F, N 22-27 mph. Exactly 8:00 pace avg. Ran during the arrival of the cold front. Very refreshing run. Tomorrow morning it'll be in the 40s! I will definitely celebrate with a tempo or some kind of workout.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 10.13
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From derhammer on Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 10:56:19 from 192.156.110.39

Looks like you got the wind, too. At least the temp drop was a welcomed reprieve.

From I Just Run on Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 11:39:05 from 67.79.11.242

Ha ha...I was interested to see your entry knowing the cold front blew in last night. I can see the celebration in you words!

From JG on Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:09:41 from 71.59.27.33

Nice temps/run! Rock it tomorrow!

From DaleG on Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:13:49 from 71.199.57.238

Wow, I think it might be colder there than here. Nice!!! Nice run, too!

From Rye on Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 15:54:42 from 174.27.97.205

Wear a shirt while you are celebrating!

From seeaprilrun on Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 18:31:01 from 68.103.242.223

Long sleeve weather! Only a runner celebrate a cold front. Only a runner celebrates anything with a workout for that matter.

From Dan on Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 22:16:31 from 24.209.83.20

Nice temps, and solid run. Have fun with the tempo!

From ACorn on Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 03:48:02 from 24.2.76.146

40s are perfect for me! Solid miles!

From SlowJoe on Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 11:03:27 from 75.109.104.60

DH - I'll definitely take the wind over the heat any day.

IJR - yep, you knew I had to mention that!

JG/DG - thanks!

Rye - it was definitely shirt weather

April - you're right, we're a bunch of weirdos

Dan - thanks

ACorn - me too, I wish it could be 40 every morning

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
9.004.0013.00

43F. Yep, pretty much perfect weather, not much wind either. So I cranked out 9 easy, followed by 4 tempo.

9 easy in 7:56 AP.

4 tempo in 6:27 AP (6:37, 6:34, 6:27, 6:09).

Overall 7:29 AP.

Obviously a little carried away at the end, as 6:09 is out of my tempo range but I rarely ever run that fast so probably no harm done.

I ran in the Type A shoes today, and now I'm wondering if this would be a better shoe than the Kinvara for races. They are not quite as comfortable, but seem to rebound a lot better than the softer Kinvaras. Probably need to test them more, it might be too much pounding for a marathon but I'd like to try them in some longer runs.

Saucony A4 Miles: 13.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From derhammer on Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 12:08:49 from 192.156.110.33

Nice job, Joe.

From JG on Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 12:11:08 from 71.59.27.33

Holy Smokes! A 6:09 in your 13th mile! Great run all the way around.

From seeaprilrun on Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 13:36:51 from 68.103.242.223

Whoa Joe that is a seriously awesome tempo after a long warm-up! Looks really solid--your week off did you some good. You keep cranking out workouts like this, you are going to have to seriously consider sub-3 in Houston. I mean it!

From Rye on Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 22:55:24 from 174.27.68.48

Holy schnicky Joe .... Great run today! Got to be feeling good for Houston!

From DaleG on Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 23:23:08 from 152.216.11.5

You are cranking out some massive mileage lately. Nicely done.

From Steam8 on Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 01:28:50 from 166.70.55.77

I'd wear the Type A shoes everyday if they made me run that fast!

From I Just Run on Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 10:11:21 from 67.79.11.242

Man...You're sure getting fast Joe..!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

58F, SSE 15-27 mph. I didn't get home from work until 2:30am so this run didn't take place until about 10am. So nice that it was still nice and cool out. It was almost weird running in daylight hours. 8:42 AP for 6 recovery miles.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Kelli on Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 13:15:08 from 71.219.83.151

I was thinking you were freaking fast because you did 8 miles in 32 minutes. But I forget, your time is different. Only 10:32 here.

Nice job on that windy run.

From Dan on Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 20:06:39 from 24.209.83.20

Nice tempo yesterday Joe- keep me posted on the shoes, I have thought about those instead of Kinvaras. Good recovery, after that late night.

From seeaprilrun on Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 20:55:21 from 205.172.12.229

Wow, you ran during normal hours. Nice! I think my recovery pace today was close to 10:00 miles...

From SlowJoe on Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 10:56:53 from 132.3.53.68

Kelli - you mean you don't also run 4-minute miles?

Dan - thanks, and will do on the shoes

April - I used to have problems slowing down enough on recovery runs, but lately my legs seem to love the lethargic-shuffle paces

From Kelli on Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 18:06:50 from 71.219.90.3

Actually, mine are closer to 3.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
10.200.0010.20

50F.  Same route as Tuesday but I felt a lot stronger today and had to hold back a lot.  7:50/mile.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 10.20
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.060.006.06

68F, 80%, S 17-22 mph (ran late morning).  8:38 AP.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 6.06
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
17.000.0017.00

59F, overcast.  7:44 AP.  Enjoyable 17 this morning.  I had a self-imposed 7:40 floor to keep the effort easy since I tend to get carried away on long runs, so the last 10 miles or so were all right on 7:40, give or take a second.  The one exception was a 7:29, when I was daydreaming about my next race.

My new thing on long runs is that they will either be easy, or long MP tempos - this is what Pfitz suggests.  I think it will help me from going through these cycles where I am running well, then push too hard, then break down and need recovery weeks.  So we'll see how long I stick with that...

Kinvaras Miles: 17.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From derhammer on Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 12:01:03 from 70.113.125.159

Nice run, I could not agree more with the LR strategy.

From seeaprilrun on Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 19:49:01 from 68.103.242.223

Sounds like a solid plan, along with a solid, productive run.

From Rye on Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 23:16:39 from 174.27.83.149

Awesome run today. The other day I was running on the treadmill and I got caught up in the 24 show and racked up the speed to keep up with Jack.... is that the same kind of day dreaming?

From TexasLindsey on Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:04:13 from 70.253.141.187

Good job on making yourself run slow! Ha, ha! I have the same problem on long runs. I also have that cycle of breakdown/recovery/speed.

How long are the MP long runs?

From SlowJoe on Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 14:09:51 from 132.3.53.68

DH/April - thanks

Rye - yep, exactly the same.

TL - my last one was 16 miles w/ 8 @ MP. Next one will be 18 miles with 10 @ MP. Not really looking forward to it. I'm always disappointed with how hard MP feels.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
4.110.004.11

76F.  8:38 AP, a nice trot around the neighborhood as it was getting dark.  I'd planned to take a rest day today but it didn't feel like I needed rest so I ran (obviously not much).  I like the flexibility of not being tied to a daily plan.  Hopefully when the shoe is on the other foot and I need an unscheduled rest day, I will let myself take it.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 4.11
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From JG on Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 00:19:02 from 71.59.27.33

Nice recovery trot after a great long run!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
10.000.0010.00

68F, S 16-25 mph.  8:01/mile avg.  I think we have one more warm morning (tomorrow) and then it's cool weather from here on out.  In other possibly related news, my tempo run just moved from tomorrow to Friday.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 10.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 10:37:38 from 67.79.11.242

Thanks Mr. Weatherman for the promise of cool weather from here on out. I expect I'll see your times drop about 10-15 percent after today :-) BTW...how's tne knee?

From flatlander on Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 11:09:38 from 76.31.26.153

Way to look ahead. I can barely see past the front of my feet. Good run too.

From Steam8 on Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 11:10:21 from 166.70.55.77

10 miles already this morning! You are not SLOW Joe!

From JG on Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 13:58:27 from 71.59.27.33

Nice run ... and smart move bumping that tempo to the cooler weather! :)

From SlowJoe on Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 14:07:22 from 132.3.53.68

IJR - knee is better, not quite 100% but moving in the right direction.

Flat - must be all that Houston fog

S8 - thanks, it was kind of an early morning

JG - if you're not cheating, you're not trying!

From DaleG on Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 14:52:44 from 71.199.57.238

Nice run, Joe. It's getting really cold up here in northern Utah. Wind out of the north and cloudy. The leaves are falling.

From Burt on Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 14:53:30 from 72.223.91.148

Solid run from a solid guy. Nice job.

From allie on Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 16:31:09 from 24.10.191.18

sounds like the weather there is the same as the weather here. where is texas, anyway? probably pretty close to tooele.

From seeaprilrun on Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 07:29:55 from 205.172.12.229

Yes! Good to set yourself up for success.

From derhammer on Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 10:50:28 from 192.156.110.39

Of course, there will probably be a stiff wind to go with the cold front.

From SlowJoe on Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 13:48:31 from 132.3.53.68

DG - hope it is not getting too cold quite yet.

Thanks for saying I'm solid Burt.

Allie - Correct. Texas (pronounced Tehks-uhs) is a small community tucked away to the SE of Tooele. Very few people know of its existence.

April - also takes away my usual excuses, but I guess that's ok

DH - True...it's arriving this evening here so the north wind should hopefully die down by Friday

From flatlander on Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 16:23:46 from 198.207.244.102

By the way, that other place is pronouced "TOO-lee". (I'm pretty sure that's right.)

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
15.540.0015.54

71F, SSW 14-21 mph.  7:53 AP.

Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 15.54
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From JG on Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 13:31:15 from 71.59.27.33

Great mileage this week Joe ... Congrats!

From I Just Run on Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 14:51:14 from 67.79.11.242

I hate the wind!

From seeaprilrun on Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 16:45:17 from 68.103.254.223

good solid long run!

From flatlander on Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 17:00:15 from 198.207.244.102

Pretty scary pace for a long slow run.

From Rye on Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 23:53:26 from 174.27.120.12

Does the wind ever "not" blow in Abilene? Great run!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.520.005.52

47F, N 13 mph.  9:00 AP.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 5.52
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Burt on Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 12:14:07 from 72.223.91.148

You must've been running South.

From I Just Run on Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 15:30:17 from 67.79.11.242

I would say running north...up a very, very steep incline.

From flatlander on Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 17:20:18 from 198.207.244.102

You got it already. I'm hoping it is here by tomorrow morning.

From seeaprilrun on Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 22:32:31 from 68.103.254.223

It was a north wind in my parts today, and it is getting downright chilly!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.005.0013.00

44F, NNW 10 mph.  Workout was 8 easy, followed by 5 tempo, aiming for 6:35-6:40 on the fast miles.

8 easy avg 7:51/mile

5 tempo avg 6:36/mile (6:38, 6:37, 6:36, 6:37, 6:34)

Overall AP for 13 was 7:22.

Meh, I did the paces I was shooting for (a little faster than HM goal pace) but it was a lot of work.  I did finish with some gas in the tank so I would recover faster, but my goal pace in 8 days is 6:43.  I'd honestly be a little surprised if I can pull that off.  I'm hoping that I owe some of the toughness of this workout to the fact that it's coming at the end of a pretty high-mileage week for me.  I will be doing a 2-day taper for the Abilene half so I'll be a little more rested, but it will probably be warmer.  We'll see, I think I'll need a lot of race day magic to break 1:28.

Kinvaras Miles: 13.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From JG on Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 10:54:42 from 71.59.27.33

Great run Joe! 5 miles at that pace running solo is awesome... & hard! Mini-taper, carb-loading, race day adrenaline ... and you can run 5 seconds/mile slower ... I think things are looking great for you.

From derhammer on Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 11:58:54 from 192.156.110.34

I think you should take into consideration that you ran 8 miles before the tempo - which is crazy. Really a good job.

JG is right - you will do just great.

We all have the race day doubts (like me thinking of holding a 6:25 pace for 10 miles on Sunday) but it always seems to come together when it is time to perform.

From Steam8 on Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 22:02:11 from 166.70.55.77

You'll be able to break the 1:28 not prob! Good luck Joe!!!

From Rye on Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 23:29:53 from 174.27.115.108

Great run Joe. You have worked hard and it is paying off!

From seeaprilrun on Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 05:18:27 from 205.172.12.229

Great tempo Joe. I think you are right on for your half. You know how race day magic and rested legs work. Just be confident and make it happen.

From Dan on Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 11:29:39 from 76.250.141.181

Joe you made me laugh- You got the paces you wanted but it was work! That's should be a shirt or something. Nice tempo.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

59F, SW 14 mph.  Ran after noon, how about that?  8:27 AP.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
20.000.0020.00

52F, S 10 mph.  First 20-miler in months.  I questioned going this long since I am 6 days out from an important race, but decided if I kept it slow and easy it would be fine.  I wore my newer pair of cushiony trainers to hopefully mitigate any pounding effects.  7:50 AP.

It's so nice that 20 miles is not a big deal anymore; it used to really leave its mark on me for days.  Although, in a couple weeks I'll start throwing on 10-12 miles at GMP and maybe it'll be a different story.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 20.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From flatlander on Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 11:41:34 from 166.249.200.108

I remember when 20 was no big deal. I can't say you went slow, but if you say so. . .

From Rye on Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 07:27:45 from 174.27.124.34

20 @ 7:50.....animal

From I Just Run on Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 10:22:40 from 67.79.11.242

I'm telling you, Joe's made of iron. 20 miles is nothing for me either...as long as I'm driving my car!

From JG on Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 12:05:49 from 71.59.27.33

I'm speechless ...

Oh, & I agree with Flat ... that is a 3:25 marathon pace! Nice job Joe, excited to see how well you do Saturday!!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
4.090.004.09

42F.  9:08 AP.  Sorry about the lack of details lately, things are busy...

1150s Red #1 Miles: 4.09
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From JG on Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 21:40:51 from 71.59.27.33

You don't need to apologize for lack of details ... but 4 miles at 9:08? C'mon!

Just kidding, nice recovery miles ... I didn't know it got down to 42 in TX!

From seeaprilrun on Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 21:57:10 from 174.159.181.51

Understand the feeling all too well!

From I Just Run on Tue, Nov 01, 2011 at 09:21:49 from 67.79.11.242

I completly understand!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
7.720.007.72

59F, S 14-22 mph.  8:11 AP.  I was going to do 12, but my legs were totally dead today.  Normally I'd just suffer through it but with a race in 4 days, I turned around early.  That is exactly what I get for all the big talk about how 20 miles is no big deal.  While it was easy at the time, it definitely still leaves its mark.  I knew it felt wrong when I was typing it!  Anyway, I think a little rest will recover them enough to be ready to run on Saturday.

Oh yeah, weather.gov is predicting the winds at race time to be SSW 26-37 mph.  The course for the half is fully exposed (no trees, houses, etc) and the first 5 miles will be into the wind.  Let's just say I am shopping around for another HM.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 7.72
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From derhammer on Tue, Nov 01, 2011 at 10:08:52 from 192.156.110.34

It's still a few days away so who knows.

Check this out:

Sat, Nov 5, Marathoning for Miracles Marathon, Half Marathon & Relay Abilene, TX

Sun, Nov 6, Dallas Running Club Half Marathon & 5K Dallas, TX

Sat, Nov 12, Buffalo Wallow Half Marathon & 2-Mile Run Lubbock, TX

Sat, Nov 12, Azle Lake Run Half Marathon, 10K, 5K & Fun Run Azle, TX

Sun, Nov 13, Rock & Roll San Antonio Marathon & Half Marathon, San Antonio, TX

Sun, Nov 13, Fort Worth Marathon, Half Marathon & 20-Mile Run Fort Worth, TX

Sat, Nov 19, Dirty Duathlon Half Marathon & 5K Comfort, TX

Sat, Nov 19 Reliant Stadium Indoor Marathon & Half Marathon Houston, TX

Sun, Nov 20 Reliant Stadium Indoor Half Marathon & Relay Houston, TX

December 2011

Sat, Dec 3 Spicewood Vineyards Half Marathon & 10K Spicewood, TX

Sun, Dec 4 La Porte By the Bay Half Marathon La Porte, TX

Sun, Dec 4 Dallas White Rock Marathon, Half Marathon & Relay Dallas, TX

Sun, Dec 11 Decker Challenge Half Marathon & Full Marathon Austin, TX

Sat, Dec 31 New Year's Double Marathon, Half Marathon & 5K Allen, TX

From flatlander on Tue, Nov 01, 2011 at 16:23:00 from 198.207.244.102

Well, there's your shopping list. On the other hand, if you pick up a tailwind coming in, it might not be so bad, so long as you can conciously stay slow for the first 5.

From Dan on Tue, Nov 01, 2011 at 23:22:25 from 24.209.83.20

That is one big shopping list, and not even December yet. Smart running Joe.

From seeaprilrun on Wed, Nov 02, 2011 at 09:36:01 from 68.103.241.53

That's some heavy wind...I would be shopping around too. I hate wind. I would rather run 5 miles uphill then 5 into that kind of wind. Smart of you not to waste your legs this close to the race.

From SlowJoe on Wed, Nov 02, 2011 at 19:41:57 from 75.109.104.60

Forecast is down to 17-23 mph. I have my wind efforts down pretty well by now - I might be able to do 7:20s-7:30s into that with a little more effort. Still can't make up for it on the backside but I might end up doing a tactical race.

DH - thanks for the list. If this race ends up being worthless as a time trial I might go for white rock.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
0.000.000.00

Just checked and my last day off of running was Oct 11.  So now is probably a good time for one.

Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Dan on Wed, Nov 02, 2011 at 15:20:30 from 24.209.83.20

Slacker. Call me when your last day off was Oct 11, 2009.

From derhammer on Wed, Nov 02, 2011 at 16:20:45 from 192.156.110.34

Ummmm, yeah. :-)

From Steam8 on Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 09:08:07 from 166.70.55.77

WOW! How do you run everyday and not get burned out...or injured! You deserve a day to rest those legs! I am sure you are back at it this morning!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.141.007.14

35F (w/c 27F), NW 11 mph.  short sleeves and shorts, oh yeah!  I did have gloves and a hat though.  7:25 AP, which included strides and 2 x 0.5 mile @ HMGP.  Felt really good today coming off the rest day and probably the perfect running temperature for me.

It also helped that I hadn't just rolled out of bed - I had to be at work for something at 6am, but then ran after that.  Just jumped right into 7:30 pace; normally it takes several miles before I can approach that if I've just gotten out of bed.

So, feeling good for the race.  Temp should be upper 40s with the south wind at 20-25 mph.  I'll just do what I can; all the headwind pretty much comes right up front in the first 5-6 miles.  If I have to accept 7:30/mile on the first 5, I can still at least break 1:30 by averaging 6:30 the rest of the way.  It's a stretch, but worth shooting for.

Saucony A4 Miles: 7.14
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From derhammer on Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 10:12:27 from 192.156.110.34

Hey - I think we had all of your wind down here this morning! Not fun!

Conserve the energy and bring it home on the second half! Looks like a sound strategy to me.

From JG on Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 14:07:39 from 71.59.27.33

Winds come & go ... maybe you'll get lucky! If not, try to find a big fast runner to run behind! Oh wait ... never mind ... you will probably be in front of everyone! :) Have a great race Joe!

From Dan on Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 20:15:17 from 24.209.83.20

Have a great race, I think you will do great- good plan + good training.

From Rye on Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 00:07:11 from 174.27.91.124

Is there a race every weekend down there or what? Good luck! Trust your training, you will do just fine.

From seeaprilrun on Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 15:30:45 from 72.205.227.2

Sounds like a good race plan. Just being optimistic, what time is the race? If it's in the morning then the wind speeds usually haven't picked up yet. I agree, ideal running temps have finally arrived.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.090.005.09

29F.  My first run in the 20s this season, not too bad since the winds were calm.  I actually went with long sleeves.  8:40 AP.  Ready to run tomorrow and take whatever the wind gods will give me.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 5.09
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 11:06:38 from 67.79.11.242

Ha ha...I had thermal underarmor tights and top, a wind breaker, gloves, heavy socks and a full face hood on today! Oh, and I caried a hand warmer. I was cold and I'm still cold! I like the 60's.

From derhammer on Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 12:09:48 from 192.156.110.33

Good luck tomorrow!

From Burt on Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 13:49:26 from 68.14.209.26

It seems like it's either uber hot in Abilene or uber cold.

From Rye on Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 23:22:38 from 75.174.2.251

Joe... you maybe tough enough to run in Idaho. Have fun tomorrow!

From DaleG on Sat, Nov 05, 2011 at 01:20:13 from 152.216.11.5

Good luck

From Steam8 on Sat, Nov 05, 2011 at 10:44:07 from 166.70.55.77

I didn't think it ever got in the 20s in Texas! You are probably running right now....hope you are having a good run day! It is snowing like crazy up here!

Race: Abilene Half Marathon (13.11 Miles) 01:29:31, Place overall: 3
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
4.6413.1117.75

51F, SSE 22-31 mph.  no kidding.

Short version - Really happy with this one given the wind.  When I felt the wind before the race, I thought it might take a miracle to break 1:30, but it actually happened.  No telling what this time would be worth on a normal day (and I'm not gonna guess) but I think I'm right on track with my fitness.

Obviously the splits are all over the map with the wind.  The headwind legs mostly came up front and were absolutely brutal.  When it gusted, it felt like I would almost come to a complete stop.  The tailwind legs were fast, although the damage had already been done.  Here are the splits/commentary, with HW in red, crosswind in black and TW in green (although I'm sure it'll be obvious).

1 - 6:52 - It started out with a little loop, and I stuck with the 2 leaders.

2-5 - 6:51, 7:27, 7:21, 7:29 - Mile 2 was neutral until about 1.6 and then the hell started.  When I felt what the headwind was like, knowing that we would have to endure it for 4 miles, I almost mentally gave up.  The two leaders hammered it and I was left by myself.  I was completely smoked trying to hold 7:20s and thought I was done.

6-10 - 6:48, 6:53, 6:41, 6:35, 6:33 - At about 5.2, it turns off the highway to a crosswind, and the slippery gravel begins for the next 3 miles.  My breathing was really starting to recover even though I was going a lot faster.  Mile 7 was about half headwind.  Mile 8 was a nice tailwind but probably had the worst gravel, really slippery.  Miles 9 and 10 were crosswind but the gravel ended and the asphalt began; I was starting to find my stride and had recovered from the headwind legs.  The second place guy was about 0.25 miles ahead after mile 5, but I had closed to about 0.15 miles by mile 10 (I would see him pass a landmark, then look at garmin to see how long it took me to get there).

11-13.1 - 6:19, 6:27, 6:36, 0:39 (5:45 pace) - Now the part I had been waiting for - I actually did the last 5K in exactly 20 min.  I closed to within 30 seconds of 2nd place but couldn't catch him.  Mile 13 we lost a majority of the tailwind and I really redlined trying to catch up to 2nd place.

If you break up the race into 2 halves, I did the first 6.55 miles in 46:39 (7:07 pace) and did the second half in 42:52 (6:32 pace).  The funny thing is it might have been a positive split effort.

Afterward I ran the race opposite direction until I saw Danielle, and ran her in.  She got a 10-second PR, despite the wind.  So we are both feeling pretty good.

results (it seems 5-6 seconds was added to everyone's time; I'm sticking with my watch time since I could not have been off by that much!)

Saucony A4 Miles: 17.75
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From CookieLegs on Sat, Nov 05, 2011 at 13:24:46 from 71.36.87.109

Congratulations to both you and Danielle for both PR'ing and preservering in those hellishly windy conditions, and for your end of the race charge trying to catch second place! (I HATE windy conditions - would much rather run up never ending hills!)

From seeaprilrun on Sat, Nov 05, 2011 at 13:56:28 from 72.205.227.2

Wow Joe this is incredible! You were really killing it in the closing miles--a pace you could very possible have held for an entire half marathon had you not had the headwind. Smart race--congratulations. I could see you pulling down 1:25 in better conditions! Wow! This is a great indicator of your fitness. I think you really need to visit the idea of sub-3 in Houston.

From Burt on Sat, Nov 05, 2011 at 14:08:54 from 72.223.91.148

I counted the word "wind" 16 times. But I didn't see Win D, which stands for winning your division. Did you win your division?

From derhammer on Sat, Nov 05, 2011 at 15:19:03 from 70.113.125.159

Awesome job, Joe. You should definitely consider one of those other half marathons to get a true indication. Congrats!!

From JG on Sat, Nov 05, 2011 at 16:10:34 from 71.59.27.33

Great race Joe ... grueling conditions! Way to battle through, that is a huge mental hurdle to battle wind for a 7:30 pace early in the race and finish with a 6:50 AP! Congrats to Danielle as well!!

From Rye on Sat, Nov 05, 2011 at 16:15:13 from 174.27.70.71

Awesome Joe.... Tell your wife congrats too. Great way to finish .... you are a stud!

From I Just Run on Sat, Nov 05, 2011 at 17:53:49 from 166.205.12.13

Way to go Joe! I knew you'd have a big PR. I just didn't think it would be that hard. Way to stay focussed. Tell Danielle congratulations too. I know the wind, I biked in it today.

From SlowJoe on Sat, Nov 05, 2011 at 18:03:02 from 75.109.104.60

CL - thanks - I think I agree with you, although I'm not a fan of hills either!

April - thanks, tough to predict, but the second-half split has me feeling more confident, even though I got a nice lift from the tailwind.

Burt - hah - it (the 'w' word) was pretty much all anyone was talking about...I guess it shows on my entry. When I picked up my prize, it was for 3rd overall, not AG, so I don't think I was included the the AG division. Not sure how old the other 2 were, seemed close to my age.

Dh - I think I will do a 10k turkey trot in Houston - I figure that is a pretty good way to create "Houston conditions." (no wind, flat sea level) Hopefully 10k is long enough to give me at least some idea of what kind of marathon shape I might be in.

JG - thanks, definitely a tough way to end up at 6:50 but I'm happy

Rye - thanks, will do!

From SlowJoe on Sat, Nov 05, 2011 at 18:03:59 from 75.109.104.60

IJR - thanks, I have a way of making everything seem hard! Going to read about your ride now.

From Andrea on Sat, Nov 05, 2011 at 20:51:35 from 67.177.21.60

Great race today! Wind is definitely the worst when it comes to races. Congrats on a new PR. So exciting!

From DaleG on Sat, Nov 05, 2011 at 21:25:01 from 173.151.22.217

Way to go, Joe!!! Awesome race in the wind and 3rd overall. Very cool!!! Did you get a trophy?

From Dan on Sun, Nov 06, 2011 at 00:55:46 from 24.209.83.20

Fantastic race Joe! I always thought you were determined by that time in that wind- impressive. Celebrate the PR!

From flatlander on Sun, Nov 06, 2011 at 11:54:25 from 76.31.26.153

As hard as the wind was, I am even more impressed by the way you keep up the speed on the uncertain footing in the middle parts of the race. It is just amazing that you could get a 5-minute PR in these types of conditions. Huge congrats. Who knows what you will be capable of at Houston, but it will be very exciting to find out.

From SlowJoe on Sun, Nov 06, 2011 at 14:32:11 from 75.109.104.60

Andrea - thanks, it sure does put a kink in one's plans

DG - no trophy, I got a gym bag...pretty normal prize for our local races, which are not too big or fast

Dan - thanks, definitely reason to celebrate

Flat - I run on those kind of roads a lot, but they definitely take some extra focus and energy; I'm glad Houston is all concrete

From ChrisM on Sun, Nov 06, 2011 at 15:10:03 from 86.10.81.85

Congrats on the result and third place!

From allie on Sun, Nov 06, 2011 at 21:44:44 from 24.10.191.18

joe! great race!

From SlowJoe on Mon, Nov 07, 2011 at 11:44:44 from 132.3.53.68

Thanks Chris & Allie!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.050.006.05

67F, SSE 18-26 mph.  8:37 AP.  Actually got some sunshine for this run.  This is the first time as a runner that I have gotten to experience the joys of Fall daylight savings time.  Last year I was living with savages (no DST), and the year before I would've never done something like wake up early to run.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.05
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From seeaprilrun on Mon, Nov 07, 2011 at 23:17:10 from 205.172.12.230

Amazing how much you have progressed! I see you are recovering well from the half.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
10.000.0010.00

57F, WNW 16-23 mph.  7:45 AP.  Interesting run for a weather nerd.  I ran about an hour after the squall line came through but just before the cold air from the actual front.  In the relatively short time I was out there, I could feel the winds transiting from south to north by the end of the run.

The plan for the rest of the week is a lot more plain ol' aerobic running like this to recover from the half, then 10 @ MP on Sunday in my long run.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 10.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From DaleG on Tue, Nov 08, 2011 at 11:50:11 from 71.199.57.238

Nice job. Interesting about the weather change.

From derhammer on Tue, Nov 08, 2011 at 11:55:31 from 192.156.110.34

Nice run - it was quite windy down here as well - though coming up from the south. Cold front gets here later today.

From seeaprilrun on Tue, Nov 08, 2011 at 17:53:29 from 72.205.230.98

Sweet, so 10 at 6:50 pace. I will be in Houston in January. We are coming down to watch the trials the day before and then probably the marathon the next day. I'm thinking we need to hook up with you and Danielle!

From flatlander on Tue, Nov 08, 2011 at 22:09:09 from 76.31.26.153

I ran through a front once, it was interesting. Some of them move pretty fast and they don't last long. I might be doing the same thing in the morning.

From Steam8 on Wed, Nov 09, 2011 at 09:01:25 from 166.70.55.77

I love watching/feeling a storm blow in. Makes for an interesting run. 10 miles recovery run...that would be a training run for me! ha!

From SlowJoe on Wed, Nov 09, 2011 at 10:16:08 from 132.3.53.68

DG - thanks, definitely interesting in a nerdy kind of way

dh - hope you are enjoying it now

April - 10 at 6:5x pace, how bout that? Hey, that is pretty cool that you are coming to Houston and agreeing to ditch your family for a few hours in order to pace me. You are so nice! I won't need you the whole race, just the last 25 miles or so. We'll have to carb you up the night before, so we'll definitely make some plans.

Flat - hope you got a little love from the cold front - Houston seems to take forever to cool off.

S8 - yeah there was still a good amount of lightning off to the east, fun to watch!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
13.001.0014.00

39F, N 10 mph.  Some perfect running weather.  7:32 AP today as I got a little carried away on the way home...nothing crazy though, just having fun throwing in a few strides of varying speeds and duration.  Legs really sprung to life today and are seemingly recovered after the race.

Kinvaras Miles: 14.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Wed, Nov 09, 2011 at 10:31:02 from 67.79.11.242

Cool Weather = Springy Legs

It's cool to keep hearing the confidence in your running.

From JG on Wed, Nov 09, 2011 at 12:03:32 from 71.59.27.33

Sounds nice, gotta love that springy feeling in the legs! I actually stopped & took my shirt off 40 minutes into my run, we have been having awesome weather. I thought summer was never going to end ... now winter is around the corner ... but I like running in the 30's & 40's too! :)

From Rye on Wed, Nov 09, 2011 at 12:11:28 from 75.174.19.85

You are just clicking along! Wish that 7:34 pace was that easy for me. Nice!!!

From seeaprilrun on Wed, Nov 09, 2011 at 14:51:10 from 72.205.230.98

Solid pace! That's a good sign when 7:30 pace is easy and legs feel springy!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.070.006.07

32F, 8:39 AP.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.07
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Steam8 on Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 09:16:00 from 166.70.55.77

6 already done! That has got to feel good!!!

From I Just Run on Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 12:41:59 from 67.79.11.242

Burrrr......!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
13.000.0013.00

49F, SSW 17 mph.  I had the day off, so I took my kindergartner to school and ran from there.  7:36 AP.  Once my legs get warmed up, things are now very comfortable in the 7:30s (when the weather is cool).  Hopefully if my easy pace is speeding up, it means everything else is too.  Not sure if it works like that though.

Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 13.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From flatlander on Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 11:40:10 from 198.207.244.102

I think it definitely works that way. Our temperture discrepancy this morning is very interesting, it was 36F here.

From SlowJoe on Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 12:04:19 from 74.196.65.182

That was the temp from 9am, but definitely warmer here this morning. I guess Houston will lose the cold air by tomorrow...sorry!

From JG on Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 13:03:10 from 71.59.27.33

Nice running weather! I am pretty sure it works out like that too! I am always amazed when I look back and compare times ... I have gotten pretty comfortable at 7:30 pace too & that was my 10k race pace a couple years ago.

From Steam8 on Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 14:45:31 from 166.70.55.77

How fun that you got to take your kindergartener to school! I bet she loved it! Nice long run and great time! Have a nice weekend FastJoe! :)

From DaleG on Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 02:14:14 from 71.199.57.238

Seriously, you need to change your name.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.000.005.00

61F, SSW 20-27 mph.  8:35 pace.  Short late-morning jog before tomorrow's torture session...looks like it'll be in the 60s.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 5.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From flatlander on Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 12:48:29 from 76.31.26.153

Sorry about those temps, but I think yo will do fine anyway.

From seeaprilrun on Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 14:57:25 from 72.205.230.98

I think you are going to kill it tomorrow!

From I Just Run on Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 16:12:52 from 71.41.149.142

I thought Ha...I finally ran more miles than Slow Joe, then I read you comments about toorrow :-) Good luck, I'm sure you'll do great!

From Steam8 on Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 16:47:48 from 166.70.55.77

Good luck! Good luck! I think 60s would feel good! It is SNOWING and BLOWING here!

From I Just Run on Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 17:07:25 from 166.205.13.171

Steam

Do you guys get any summer? It seems not :-)

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.0010.0018.00

61F, SSW 13 mph.  Workout was 8 easy followed by 10 @ MP.

8 easy, 7:48 AP.  (8:03, 7:57, 7:54, 7:50, 7:36, 7:38, 7:40, 7:46)

10 MP, 6:45 AP.  (6:52, 6:52, 6:51, 6:49, 6:50, 6:49, 6:39, 6:38, 6:35, 6:30)

Overall for 18 miles, 7:13 AP

I was starting to suspect I'd gone through an improvement spurt this week since my easy aerobic runs were coming in about 10-15 seconds/mile faster than usual.  I think this confirms it.  When I finished it was 63 degrees and in direct sun (around 9 am) so not ideal conditions for me, although not terrible either.

My BQ pace is 7:03, so I don't think that is in much doubt now unless the conditions are particularly adverse.  It might, MIGHT be time to start thinking sub-3, but it's a fine line because the BQ is the goal and I don't want to blow it by getting greedy.

The shoes I ran in (type A4s) will probably be my marathon shoes, as they felt fine the whole time.  I have been dealing with a sore right achilles/calf since the race last weekend though, so definitely need to run in the trainers for awhile.  The good news is that it never hurt at all while running.

Saucony A4 Miles: 18.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From DaleG on Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 23:43:53 from 71.199.57.238

Fantastic run!!! I say go with your heart on what to do. What is the marathon you're training for, Houston?

From JG on Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 10:38:32 from 71.59.27.33

Awesome run Joe. Gotta love those 'fitness jumps' ... and running a 6:35 pace for Miles 15-18! Great stuff!!

From I Just Run on Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 10:59:31 from 67.79.11.242

I say GO FOR IT ...!!! My money is bet on you if I can just find a fool to bet against me :-)

From ACorn on Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 15:04:46 from 24.2.76.146

Awesome workout! You've put in some serious work and the times are the evidence. Great job.

From Steam8 on Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 20:02:32 from 166.70.55.77

OH my heck! Change your name SLOWJOE! WOW! Nice run!!! I always run a ton faster on race day. Your BQ should be easy for you!

From I Just Run on Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 20:57:27 from 67.79.11.242

I've been trying for months to get Joe to change his name to TURBOJOE. I think it's much more appropriate :-)

From Dan on Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 21:42:55 from 24.209.83.20

Great run Joe- those early miles followed by the MP miles really pay off. Your run was impressive and sub 3 is no stretch. Positive review on the A4 then?

From SlowJoe on Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 10:08:07 from 132.3.53.68

DG - yeah Houston...I'll probably end up just going by feel anyway, as I usually ditch my pacing plan early on.

Thanks JG

IJR - I might take that bet

Thanks Acorn

Steam - can't change the name, it's gotten me this far!

Thanks Dan, I think the stars might have to align, but I'm keeping the thought alive for now. The A4's are great, a little harder on your feet than the Kinvaras but I think like most shoes, you can get used to them. I definitely feel faster in them vs. the kinvaras.

From seeaprilrun on Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 11:40:46 from 68.103.252.193

Great tempo Joe! Very, very, highly suspect for being in sub-3 shape. I like your run by feel plan--it is really, ultimately, the best way to go. Your run by feel will likely get you to sub-3 though!

From derhammer on Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 17:50:40 from 192.156.110.40

Sweet Joe. Very nice run indeed. Yes, I agree, once every 2-3 weeks is sufficient.

Someone much smarter than me told me, "BQ first and get the monkey off your back, then go for it at the next marathon." It was such a freeing experience to get that monkey off my back. Now I know if I go all out and blow up it's no big deal. The wheels can come off pretty fast during a marathon.

What is your qualifying time now - 3:05?

From SlowJoe on Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 21:39:47 from 75.109.104.60

April - thanks, I would like some harder evidence but the run felt great!

DH - that sounds like great advice. Yeah I need 3:05 for Boston 2013 (I won't get the 5-min handicap for being 35 until 2014). I feel like I am finally in shape to go 3:05 in Houston, but I checked the mcmillan equivalents of a 3:00 and don't see any evidence that I am there yet. There's definitely a big difference between the two!

From flatlander on Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:40:26 from 198.207.244.102

You guys are all way too fast, so impressive on these long hard runs.

From I Just Run on Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:16:01 from 67.79.11.242

Thanks for the compliment Flat........Wait, you weren't talking to me were you :-(

From flatlander on Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:19:44 from 198.207.244.102

Especially you.

From SlowJoe on Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 13:37:22 from 132.3.53.68

I would like those smiley faces stricken from the record. No one is allowed to receive any compliments here but me.

From I Just Run on Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 14:08:16 from 67.79.11.242

:-( ... Sorry ... :-(

From SlowJoe on Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 14:21:19 from 132.3.53.68

hey - you really removed them! Frowny faces, now that's more like it - no fun around here!

just kidding, just kidding

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
14.310.0014.31

AM - 60F.  7:57/mile, legs were pretty dead this morning from Sunday's workout.  It definitely does not makes sense to do those long MP runs more than once every couple of weeks -- I don't think I'll be ready for a workout tomorrow, so I'm going to try for Friday...thinking 8 x 800 but not sure yet.

PM - 67F and cooling.  8:31 AP for 4 miles and change.  I wasn't originally going to double up today but there will be a nasty south wind on Friday, so I am shuffling the whole week around so I can go to the track on Thursday (40 degrees and low wind).  Hopefully the legs will be good to go by then.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 14.31
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Tracy on Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 19:44:11 from 50.103.236.255

You've run some pretty great race since I've been gone! It's nice to see that some things haven't changed in the last few months!

From JG on Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 21:37:09 from 71.59.27.33

Nice double, I am going to try to do those a couple times a week ... a good way to build mileage!

From SlowJoe on Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 21:50:09 from 75.109.104.60

Tracy - hey! thanks - yeah, still not burned out quite yet...

JG - true - I'm not a fan of doubles but it definitely helps shuffle things around.

From I Just Run on Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 08:01:04 from 166.205.9.157

Hummm...you talk about dead legs then go run a double...you're an animal!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
7.000.007.00

44F.  8:29 AP.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 7.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Steam8 on Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 18:06:39 from 166.70.55.77

Nice run! 44 is a nice temp to run in. I was running in that today....just not as fast! ha!

From JG on Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 18:13:32 from 71.59.27.33

Nice running temp! I have found that 8:30 is my favorite running pace when I am not looking at my watch or subconsciously trying to push the pace a little ... always seem to end up right around there!

From SlowJoe on Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 11:10:20 from 132.3.53.68

S8 - yeah, 44 is just about perfect

JG - Same here on 8:30, seems to be a default recovery pace for my legs these days, unless I'm really wiped out...then it's slower.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
9.004.0013.00

30F, w/c 26F.  Little chilly, but great interval-running weather.

The plan was for a 5 mile warmup, then 8 x 800s with 400m jog recovery at the track.  Well, after my warmup, I notice what looks like the entire ACU football team or something arriving there too.  So on to Plan B, which was to set my watch up for 0.5 mile laps and do the repeats around the campus jogging path loop.  So the workout ended up just about the same, I just did 0.5 miles fast and 0.25 miles slow, 8 times.  I ran them pretty evenly but since it wasn't a track, there were some slightly overall uphill and downhill repeats.

5-ish warmup: 7:53AP

8 x 0.5 miles: 3:02, 2:57, 2:57, 2:59, 2:59, 3:02, 2:55, 2:51.  AP was 5:56 for the 4 total fast miles.  Recoveries were all basically 2:00-2:05 for the quarter mile inbetween (8:00-8:20 pace).  It felt all frantic at first trying to get to 6:00 pace, but I sorta found a groove with it.  A really uncomfortable groove.

Pretty much the times I was shooting for, even if I had gotten to run on a nice level track, so I'll call it a success and go back to avoiding VO2 max workouts again for as long as possible.

AP 7:19 for 13 miles.

Saucony A4 Miles: 13.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From derhammer on Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 10:02:51 from 192.156.110.33

It's a great trait to have a plan B ready. Good paces there, too.

So, you can avoid for the next 7 days, right?

From SlowJoe on Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 10:05:12 from 132.3.53.68

Yep, a whopping 7 days! Gonna have to get pretty lazy between now and then.

From I Just Run on Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 12:01:06 from 67.79.11.242

I was breathing hard just reading your entry :-( Mission accomplished...Good Workout...!

From JG on Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 14:05:23 from 71.59.27.33

Great running Joe! One day I will do (8) 800's ... I always start to have thoughts of bailing after about 2!

From I Just Run on Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 14:30:25 from 67.79.11.242

Oh Man....I looked on my schedule and 8 x 800 is there :-( Glad it's several weeks out. Maybe I'll forget this conversation by that time :-)

From Rye on Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 16:30:59 from 174.27.70.12

Breathing hard and seeing the little green men....... wow joe! Way to hit all your marks. You are a whole lot faster than me.... but 30 degrees chilly? Think I got you on that one! Nice run again.

From Burt on Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 21:38:52 from 72.223.93.131

Joe's afraid of the football team. Hardy hardy har har!

From SlowJoe on Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 21:41:27 from 75.109.104.60

IJR - definitely had a good lung burn all morning

JG - yep - I wanted to quit about halfway through the 4th one today

Rye - I thought you might have a chuckle at my 30 degrees!

From SlowJoe on Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 21:43:24 from 75.109.104.60

Burt - obviously.

From seeaprilrun on Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 08:53:51 from 68.103.252.193

Wow! Awesome 800s. Not to sound like a broken record, but according to Yasso you are now in sub-3 shape.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.000.008.00

46F, S 18-25 mph.  8:17 AP.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 8.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 14:47:32 from 67.79.11.242

Lucky you...Today you had the wind that I was fighting yesterday! I hope tomorrow is calm for my long run :-)

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
16.000.0016.00

64F, S 19-27 mph.  Normally I do the LR on Sunday, but offered to take the windy day this weekend so Danielle could have some calmer weather (tomorrow) for her 18-miler.

Overall, 7:51/mile.  The direct headwind legs were about 8:40 pace, and I had to push a little to get that, so pretty nasty wind.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 16.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From flatlander on Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 10:29:32 from 76.31.26.153

Joe, this is a really impressive week you just logged. I hope we can get together when you are in town. I'd like to try for 18 or 20 at 7:45 to 7:50, but don't know if a slow pace like that fits into your training plans or not.

From derhammer on Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 11:09:00 from 70.113.125.159

Nice run Joe, and you are such a gentleman.

From SlowJoe on Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 11:33:59 from 75.109.104.60

Flat - I can definitely make that work, I was looking to do 20 this next weekend anyway. Maybe Saturday?

DH - thanks, I do my best...sometimes

From JG on Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 11:59:07 from 71.59.27.33

Great run ... you have been battling a lot of wind lately ... is that typical for winter months?

I am sure Danielle appreciates that ... and you made the right choice! Even if you were questioning it running a 8:40 into the wind! lol

From Steam8 on Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 17:53:35 from 166.70.55.77

Great run in the wind. You are nice to let your sweetie have the better weather!

Overall 7:50 for 16 is FAST-Joe!

From Dan on Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 23:26:41 from 24.209.83.20

Nice run Joe- and way to take the one for the team (the wind)

From SlowJoe on Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 10:00:02 from 75.109.104.60

JG - the wind starts picking up around Sep/Oct, and gets stronger (on average) until it peaks in Mar/Apr. By June it has died down. I think that's true from here in the southern plains (N TX)all the way up to South Dakota, just a windy part of the country.

S8/Dan - thanks!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.030.006.03

47F, N 10 mph.  It was supposed to be in the mid-60s all day but stayed 15-20 degrees below the forecast - weird, never seen them screw it up that bad.  I actually ran just after lunch.  Maybe a little too soon after lunch:  fajita burps all the way.  Leftover fajita burps.

8:27 AP

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.03
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From seeaprilrun on Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 18:35:51 from 68.103.252.193

Delicious!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
14.000.0014.00

43F, foggy.  More weird weather for Abilene.  7:42 AP.  Such a nice, flowing, easy, gliding run - you know, just the sweetest feeling kind - until about 5 miles from home.  Then I had...issues.  My bowels were paying for a weekend of total gluttony.  Somehow I made it home with clean underwear and no pit stops -- it took a few short bouts of walking to contain things.  But the joy of running through the refreshing cool mist was gone, gone, gone.

Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 14.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Burt on Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 12:50:03 from 68.14.209.26

Well, if you messed yourself, at least the fog would have kept anyone from seeing you.

From I Just Run on Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 14:51:27 from 67.79.11.242

Did you drink some of that Atkins stuff?

Our weater was foggy (probably 98% humidity) and 72 degrees....ugh!

From DaleG on Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 15:03:17 from 71.199.57.238

LOL...I know the feeling all too well.

Nice run and I'm glad you made it home without messing your pants.

From Rye on Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 21:16:51 from 174.27.70.12

Funny about runners....... we all have been there. I echo IJR about the Atkins stuff. Haven't you heard about "drop, squat and ____!" I'm a pro.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
9.000.009.00

46F.  8:09 AP.  Leaving for Houston today...sometime.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 9.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From JG on Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:19:19 from 71.57.246.108

Have a great holiday in Houston, nice running last few days!

From flatlander on Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 14:05:30 from 64.129.54.210

Got some cooler weather for you here, and not much wind to go with it.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

56F, N 10 mph.  Houston.  8:25 AP.  I forgot to bring any running shoes - what kind of runner am I?  I did this run in some old beaters and there will probably be a shiny new pair of racers in my very near future.

Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Tracy on Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 12:29:26 from 209.175.177.37

I hate it when that happens. Luckily you were still able to get out.

From flatlander on Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 14:05:53 from 76.31.26.153

Pretty good runner, that's what kind.

From Rye on Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 02:22:59 from 174.27.100.131

Slacker! Just kiddin. Have a great Turkey Day!

From JG on Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 23:42:48 from 71.57.246.108

Just curious ... but did you forget your running shoes on purpose, so that you could get a pass from Danielle to buy a new pair of racing flats? :)

Race: Houston Turkey Trot 10K (6.29 Miles) 00:40:55, Place overall: 81, Place in age division: 9
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
1.806.298.09

54F, ENE 8 mph.

Stunk it up today - I hate the 10K.  Basically went out forcing the pace I wanted for the first half and it was way too fast for me today.  Miles 4 and 5 were into the wind but I can't in good conscience use that as an excuse, the wind speed was not too bad.  I was just mush after the 5K and gave a pretty poor effort for the last 3 miles.  I'm trying not to read in too much as far as what kind of shape that I'm in, hoping it was just a bad day, but I expected a lot better on a flat course with close to perfect conditions.  Sub-3 needs to be shelved for sure.  Gotta focus on 3:05, because I probably still have work to do to get there.  Don't you hate it when you realize you're slower than you thought you were?  Anyway, here's the carnage:

6:18, 6:21, 6:21, 6:40, 6:47, 6:50, 1:38 for 0.29 (5:38 pace).

Danielle and I both measured the course about a tenth of a mile long, not that it really mattered for me, given my crappy running.  The last .29 would've been slower but (another) girl was passing me and I picked it up to finish ahead.  Actually, it was really easy to pick up the pace, which kind of lets me know I dogged it way too much once I knew it would not be a good race.  Lazy bum.  Ah well, back to the grind.  Happy Thanksgiving all.

Fastwich Miles: 8.09
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Andrea on Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 12:56:43 from 96.32.4.123

Don't beat yourself up too much - sometimes it's just not the day. I'm convinced that 10k is the worst distance!

From derhammer on Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 13:25:19 from 141.0.9.75

I think 10k is the hardest distance to race - just above 5k pace but for twice as long.

I read that one needs to run 3 10ks before the marathon to get an accurate gauge - so you can always try again. I know you are faster than today. For whatever reason it just wasn't your day. It happens.

From seeaprilrun on Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 11:06:51 from 68.103.252.217

I agree with the above. It just wasn't your day. If it had been, I don't think you would have had a problem with your opening pace. I just stunk a race up worse than you, so I know it stinks to get out there and underperform, but don't make the mistake of reading too much into it. There are good races and bad races, and you gotta throw out the bad ones. Your next one will be better. I don't think sub-3 is out of the question. There is a huge, huge, huge, difference between 6:50 and 6:30 pace. I don't why sub 6:30 is so hard and beats you down, yet just a little slower at 6:50 is manageable, but that seems to be the case.

From JG on Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 11:28:07 from 71.57.246.108

Yeah Joe, don't be too hard on yourself, sub 41 is still a great time. I can't tell you how many times I have jumped in a 10k at 6:20 to 6:30 pace, and at about the halfway point, your body says wtf! There is no question in my mind I should be able to run a sub 40 10k ... but I have failed every time I tried! A little 10k training would make the difference, but if your goal is a marathon 6 weeks away ... I wouldn't sweat it if you are not peaking for a 10k right now!

I agree with April, big diff between 6:25 & 6:50 ... and you have shown in training runs you can hold a 6:50 for over 10 miles. Anyway, 3:05 is what you need ... maybe tackle the first half at a 7:00 pace & then speed up if you feel it. You definitely have a sub 3 in you, make sure you get to Boston first ... I would rather go 92/91, than 90/95! Not saying you couldn't go 90/89 ... but you introduce another risk factor attempting that.

From Tracy on Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 15:31:35 from 50.103.225.65

Chalk it up to a not-so-great race and keep focusing on your goal. You're putting in the training that it takes to get there!

From Kelli on Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 17:20:11 from 71.219.83.156

OH, I think a 5k is far worse!!! But I have such little experience in both....

I think you did great, you can only do what you can do each day, and every day is a different day! Wish our bodies were more predictable.

And, if you care, I still have complete faith in a sub-3 for you!!!

From Burt on Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 17:53:09 from 72.223.93.131

It's not often that I agree with Kelli, but today I do.

Okay, I always agree with Kelli. I'm a butt kisser.

From SlowJoe on Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 12:15:26 from 98.201.152.210

Andrea - I think I agree that it's the worst distance, especially if you run it too hard at first...

DH - 3 10Ks is about 3 too many!

April - thanks, I agree about 6:50, it's kind of a different mode altogether. Think I need to just go by effort more.

JG - I was definitely thinking 91 or 92 for the first half. If by some miracle I'm in sub-3 shape, I'll still get close anyway.

Tracy - thanks, yeah - big picture.

Kelli - thanks, I appreciate it and wish I shared that faith! Oh, but you're wrong about the 5k, even if Burt agrees.

Burt - Butt kissing can sometimes take you far in life

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
10.000.0010.00

56F.  7:41/mile - Started out thinking it would be mostly recovery today but my legs quickly told me they didn't need it.  Still in Houston, but I was feeling more like my normal self today; maybe I just needed a couple days to acclimate to the wetter climate and humidity?  I don't know, but it might be worth arrving in Houston a few days early for the marathon to adjust, just in case I'm not crazy.

Fastwich Miles: 10.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Steam8 on Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 17:18:19 from 166.70.55.77

Nice 10K yesterday...how did you run 10 today? My legs would be dead! Nice job!!!

From seeaprilrun on Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 21:54:45 from 205.172.12.230

I think there is definitely some merit in arriving early--besides, don't you wanna watch the trials? We will be getting there January 13th--we will be kid-laden, but maybe we can watch the trials together and do lunch or something. I believe I still have Danielle's digits.

From SlowJoe on Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 12:17:15 from 98.201.152.210

S8 - thanks, I was definitely expecting to be a lot more tired.

April - Will definitely be there prior to the trials. We'll have to all meet up for sure. Maybe we can bring our 2 kids and they will cancel out 2 of yours and lighten your load!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
20.000.0020.00

68F, 94%, drizzly.  Had a great run with Flatlander, in not-so-great conditions.  I think last time we ran together it was around 80 and muggy, so I guess this was nice by comparison at least.  We did 4 loops of Houston Memorial park, then ran to downtown and back along the bayou trail.  Nice to have good company for a slog-it-out kind of run.  Ended up with 8:26/mile which was a good workout given the heat and muddy conditions.

Fastwich Miles: 20.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From allie on Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 12:34:00 from 76.23.55.215

nice job with the 20-miler. conditions are always great in utah (i'm lying); you should come run here. we'll let you in (don't tell burt).

From Burt on Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 15:01:28 from 72.223.93.131

I heard that allie. Sinner!

How cool that you ran with Flatlander. You should put him in your profile picture.

From Steam8 on Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 22:43:45 from 166.70.55.77

How fun that you got to run together! When we lived in Houston, I used to take my little 2 yr old to Houston Memorial Park sometimes. They had a little train that you could take your kids on and then we would go to the zoo. I bet the 20 flew by since you had nice company to help the time go by!

From Rye on Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 22:51:48 from 174.27.120.92

Nice run joe. 68 beats the heck out of the 30 we had today. Awesome that you two hooked up for a great 20 miler!

From JG on Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 23:44:11 from 71.57.246.108

Nice run, awesome you & Flat could hook up for a long one!

From flatlander on Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 08:20:49 from 76.31.26.153

Thanks again for pacing me through the mud. I had a great time. See you at the Trials!

From SlowJoe on Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 16:43:03 from 132.3.53.68

allie - I heard the great Utah running weather peaks around January...see you then.

Burt - no way, I am too conceited to share my profile picture with someone else. Those people in the background of my current picture are lucky I didn't black them out first.

S8 - We like the houston zoo too, and usually take the kids there when we're in Houston.

Rye - I think I'd prefer 30 for running, but 68 for the rest of the day.

JG - thanks, it was a good time.

Flat - enjoyed it, will definitely see you there in January

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
4.070.004.07

42F.  Quick jog around the neighborhood after a long day in the car.  8:17 AP.

Here's a picture from the 10k:

That was after out-kicking that 12-year-old girl in the background at the end.  OH YEAH - IN YOUR FACE, 12-YEAR-OLD GIRL.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 4.07
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From JG on Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 08:40:06 from 71.57.246.108

Glad you could get a stretch run in after the drive. Nice pic, you really crushed that little girl! I think I would have cropped that photo before posting it ... but your sense of humor is appreciated.

From I Just Run on Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 11:22:23 from 67.79.11.242

Hey JG... He did try and crop out the 80 year old lady. You can see her legs just above the 12 year old :-)

From SonofaFlatlander on Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:17:40 from 139.52.183.39

Nice job down the stretch Joe!

From SlowJoe on Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 16:48:59 from 132.3.53.68

JG - she will think twice next time before trying to pass me.

IJR - in my defense, the 80-year old lady had a great stride

SoaF - thanks!

From Rye on Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 23:16:08 from 174.27.120.92

You are a brute!

From seeaprilrun on Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 21:08:38 from 205.172.12.229

You showed her!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
10.000.0010.00

29F.  7:28 AP - kind of a brisk pace, attempting to warm up the body quicker than usual.  Still wore shorts though!  My legs were all red after I came back.

Kinvaras Miles: 10.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 11:19:59 from 67.79.11.242

Ha ha it was 28 here... I decided to run this afternoon instead of this morning. No more torture for me for a while :-)

From derhammer on Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:38:46 from 192.156.110.33

That sounds really cold. Just to make you feel better I was under 2 down comforters at the time all nice and toasty.

From Rye on Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 23:13:46 from 174.27.120.92

Joe.... you are toughening up! 29 and shorts...I'll try to take the "wimp" out of my blogging when speaking or you.

From JG on Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 08:27:03 from 71.57.246.108

Nice job jumping out there in the cold & getting it done! Things happen when you procrastinate, just ask IJR, who it appears never did his afternoon run! Believe it or not, it was 65 in PA yesterday!

From I Just Run on Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 10:32:23 from 67.79.11.242

Ha ha JG...you didn't catch me this time procrastinating, I actually ran last night, I just haven't put the results in my blog yet. I bet you can't wait to see the numbers :-) I will tell you that if I had to run in 29 degree weather I think I'd have to quit running, I'm not tough enough for that :-(

From SlowJoe on Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 21:10:22 from 74.195.74.62

IJR - smart move.

dh - believe it or not, no, that does not make me feel better

Rye - the real reason for shorts is because the only pants I have are slacks and jeans.

JG - I do procrastinate pretty well in every other facet of life for some reason. Weird about PA temps.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
10.100.0010.10

AM - 30F.  6 miles, 8:28 pace.  Probably going to do a few more recovery miles after work, then a tempo tomorrow.

PM - 50F. 4.1 miles @ 8:22 AP.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.001150s Red #2 Miles: 4.10
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From seeaprilrun on Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 21:11:07 from 205.172.12.229

Looks like you are on track to pack in some serious mileage this week.

From JG on Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 21:33:22 from 71.57.246.108

Nice double!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
11.004.0015.00

28F.  Mostly easy with a 4-mile tempo block thrown in on the way home - 6:37, 6:27, 6:34, 6:19.

Average was 6:29 for the tempo, and 7:27 for the 15 mile total.

Have to mention this, on the way out I made my first-ever pit stop in a nice ditch (it was still good and dark).  Pretty efficient and tidy, I was pleased.

Fastwich Miles: 15.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 11:20:41 from 67.79.11.242

Sometimes I just read too far in a blog...I should just stop at the good part...that's all I have to say :-(

From Rye on Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 15:53:23 from 75.174.19.85

Joe seriously, your first.....with all the ibuprofen you take that should shake things up for you! Heck of a nice run!

From I Just Run on Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 16:14:05 from 67.79.11.242

I think you call it "Stop - Drop - and" ...well You get the idea :-)

From Steam8 on Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 17:30:34 from 166.70.55.77

WOW..nice run! Seriously...change your name! You are so dang fast!

Good thing it was still dark! I am always running when it is light and I don't ever get that luxury! ha!

From SlowJoe on Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 21:18:06 from 74.195.74.62

IJR - sorry, this seems to be happening a lot lately. From now on, I will make the disturbing text a different color (brown) so you will know not to read any further.

Rye - Yeah I don't get it, I've been eating Whoppers every day.

S8 - I don't even think daylight would've stopped me this time. It was going to happen either way.

From JG on Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 22:38:47 from 71.57.246.108

Wow ... takin it home with some smokin fast miles! Nice job ... guess you were feeling a little lighter on your feet!

From derhammer on Thu, Dec 01, 2011 at 11:58:57 from 192.156.110.33

Wow - sweet tempo at the end of an 11 mile run? Look out Houston.

From flatlander on Thu, Dec 01, 2011 at 13:23:22 from 64.129.54.210

Good job and nice tempo miles, those are hard to do after running that long.

From I Just Run on Thu, Dec 01, 2011 at 15:24:43 from 67.79.11.242

I agree with Flat's comments but I would add that they are "impossible" for me after running that long!

From SlowJoe on Thu, Dec 01, 2011 at 15:31:57 from 132.3.53.68

Thanks JG/DH/flat/IJR - it felt pretty tough, glad to be done w/ it. For whatever reason it doesn't seem to matter much when the tempos are done for me. In fact it would probably be harder with only 2 or 3 miles warmup.

From I Just Run on Thu, Dec 01, 2011 at 15:35:28 from 67.79.11.242

Between yourunning tempos' like this and Flat hammering out 20 milers every day I'm starting to feel really old and slow. I think I need to get off this blog :-(

From derhammer on Thu, Dec 01, 2011 at 15:48:03 from 192.156.110.33

Yeah, IJR, I agree. SJ is making my progressive runs look like child's play and Flat makes my mileage look weak. Maybe we should start our own blog. ;-)

From Burt on Thu, Dec 01, 2011 at 17:19:57 from 68.14.209.26

Good gravy man!! I hope you buried it!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

47F, S 16 mph.  8:36 AP.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From JG on Thu, Dec 01, 2011 at 10:45:44 from 71.57.246.108

Nice running temp (minus the wind). How do you like your new racing flats?

From SlowJoe on Sat, Dec 03, 2011 at 14:38:16 from 74.195.74.62

JG - they are pretty nice. Feels like they are a couple ounces heavier than the others (maybe 8 oz) but the also feel like trainers and I wouldn't hesitate to run any distance in them.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
13.000.0013.00

37F, NNE 12 mph.  7:36 AP.  Really feeling good lately.  This was one of those runs that I just didn't want to end but I have a job.  Which I need to go to for money.

Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 13.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 10:33:46 from 67.79.11.242

Hope your boss doesn't read your

blog ;-0

Nice run though...

From Burt on Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 14:37:08 from 68.14.209.26

Jobs. Blech!

From allie on Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 18:04:02 from 24.10.191.18

my company operates on the barter system. depending on the day, it can be very lucrative or very disappointing.

From seeaprilrun on Sat, Dec 03, 2011 at 11:20:37 from 68.103.253.134

I love runs like that!

From flatlander on Sat, Dec 03, 2011 at 13:26:22 from 76.31.26.153

I'm sure you noticed already, but that half you ran just for training is close to your last marathon pace, very impressive.

From SlowJoe on Sat, Dec 03, 2011 at 14:44:37 from 74.195.74.62

IJR - thanks...I'm leaving my job in a couple months anyway, no big deal!

Burt - when will someone just pay us for doing whatever we want, whenever we want?

allie - sounds awesome! and crappy.

April - they are the best!

Flat - thanks, hoping that MP has come down some

From Burt on Sat, Dec 03, 2011 at 17:01:48 from 72.223.93.131

I wish allie would pay me for beating her at Scrabble.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

46F.  I waited until it stopped raining, then went for a short run.  Then it rained on me anyway.  8:05 AP.  20-miler w/ 11 @ MP tomorrow...

1150s Red #2 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Tracy on Sat, Dec 03, 2011 at 15:39:58 from 50.103.225.65

Good luck on the run tomorrow! Sounds like it'll be a good confidence booster when you hit your pace on all those miles :)

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
9.0011.0020.00

36F, N 10 mph, wet.  Long MP run #2 of 3 today.  First 9 easy, last 11 at GMP.

First 9 -- AP 7:40 -- 8:01, 7:41, 7:38, 7:40, 7:43, 7:42, 7:31, 7:38, 7:32

Last 11 -- AP 6:45 -- 6:50, 6:48, 6:52, 6:45, 6:44, 6:50, 6:49, 6:47, 6:39, 6:44, 6:26

Overall for 20 miles -- AP 7:10

Good confidence-building run.  I like to run the MP portion faster than my actual goal pace, which is only 7:03, in the hopes that 7:03 will feel like a walk in the park on the big day.  Actually, it probably ended up being closer to an 11-mile time trial than an MP run.  I picked up the pace for the last mile to see if I still had some gas in the tank.  I definitely did have some energy to spare, but not a ton.

Still, looking at the total time of 2:23 for 20, it's nice to know I could've just done a recovery jog for another 10K and still PR'd the marathon today.  Seems like the endurance is just about there...

Saucony A4 Miles: 20.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From allie on Sun, Dec 04, 2011 at 12:47:06 from 67.137.239.242

that's a great run, joe. right on track for houston!

From ACorn on Sun, Dec 04, 2011 at 13:09:53 from 24.2.76.146

You're looking strong. Nice run!

From Andrea on Sun, Dec 04, 2011 at 14:29:59 from 67.177.21.60

Nice workout - you're running strong!

From seeaprilrun on Sun, Dec 04, 2011 at 19:30:01 from 68.103.253.134

wow Joe awesome tempo! You ran faster than I raced that distance in! You are looking really good!

From Rye on Sun, Dec 04, 2011 at 22:14:57 from 75.174.13.127

Fastjoe...oops I mean slowjoe... Great run for your confidence. 36 degrees for you Texans.... How do you run that fast with a winter coat? That makes the time more impressive!

From derhammer on Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 12:09:09 from 192.156.110.34

Fantastic run! That's got to give a lot of confidence. Are you 5 weeks away at this point?

From JulieC on Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 12:58:20 from 67.41.189.103

Way to go!! that is definitely a tough pace to tempo!! Good luck in Houston!!

From Dan on Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 14:16:21 from 24.209.83.20

Joe- sweet pace man, looking strong!

From JG on Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 19:41:38 from 71.59.27.33

Awesome long run ... a 6:26 for Mile 20 after 10 @ sub 6:52 ... I am speechless!

From SlowJoe on Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 11:37:06 from 132.3.53.68

Hey, thanks everyone!

dh - just under 6 weeks out. I was thinking I'd do the last long MP run about 3 weeks out...?

From derhammer on Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 12:43:38 from 64.134.232.43

Joe - 3 weeks out - that's what I do - a solid 20 miler with MGP - just like this run you did but maybe 14 MPG.

From SlowJoe on Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 13:37:29 from 132.3.53.68

dh - thanks - sounds good, that's what I will do. Although I will probably slow it down closer to actual MGP.

From I Just Run on Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 13:53:50 from 166.205.12.23

Sorry I'm late on the response but this run was outstanding! I'm getting excited for you! You're going to GREAT!

From flatlander on Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 21:09:15 from 198.207.244.102

What a fantastic run! So impressive that you can run that fast at the end of a fast 20 miles.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
10.000.0010.00

25F, N 18 mph, w/c 12F.  A little too cold for this Texas boy.  Danielle got me some pants at Walmart to run in, but it was still a little painful on my face going into the wind.  I think I set a PR for longest shoe-tying session.  Normally my shoes never come untied since I double-knot them, but of course, today they did.  I fumbled around for quite a while since it was dark and I lacked dexterity in my frozen hands.  At least the roads were dry - we had an inch or two of snow on Monday morning but it didn't stick to the roads.  7:48 AP.

Kinvaras Miles: 10.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 13:49:30 from 166.205.12.23

Oooo this sounds painful. Way to stick it out for 10 miles!

From Rye on Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 21:01:56 from 75.174.13.127

25 and a north wind, ouch! I would have opted for the tm.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
15.000.0015.00

20F.  Thankfully, not much wind though - it actually felt warmer than yesterday.  Gutted my way through 15 miles @ 7:46 AP.  Felt pretty worn-out afterward, that hard 20 on Sunday is definitely still in my legs.  Still plan on taking it easy the next couple days, then possibly a 5K on Saturday; I need to get going on that sub-19 goal.

Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 15.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From derhammer on Wed, Dec 07, 2011 at 14:08:36 from 192.156.110.40

Yep, those MGP long runs will take it out of you if you over do it. Sub 19 should definitely be in the cards for you. It will be colder than the one you ran in May, that is for sure.

From JulieC on Wed, Dec 07, 2011 at 14:12:06 from 70.56.109.104

Joe, don't UNDERESTIMATE the power of EASY pace runs-- I mean 8:30 to 9:00 for like 8 miles for a few days. RECOVERY will make a HUGE difference. It is not overtraining it is UNDERrecovery. I am just seeing a pattern of killer runs placed closed together and I want to just give my two cents/sense in as I totally bonked at SGM due to lack of recovery when my fitness matched what yours is currently. : D

From derhammer on Wed, Dec 07, 2011 at 14:38:43 from 192.156.110.40

Julie - excellent observation and point. Joe has been pretty good at sticking to slow recovery runs so I did not even look.

Joe - there is nothing wrong with taking 2 days off after an epic long run like you ran. Julie's advice is solid - take it easy - your legs will rebuild and get stronger from you hard runs if you let them. Push too hard and they won't recover and you will lose the benefit of your hard work. This is nothing you don't already know. :-)

From Steam8 on Wed, Dec 07, 2011 at 17:26:47 from 166.70.55.77

Worn out??? I guess after all of the miles you have already done this week and still a 7:46 ave....NICE!! FastJOE!

From JG on Wed, Dec 07, 2011 at 17:39:35 from 71.59.27.33

A couple low mile easy days with some strides mixed in & I think you will crush a 5k Sat! Nice running & good luck!

From seeaprilrun on Wed, Dec 07, 2011 at 21:01:21 from 68.103.253.134

I agree with above, run nice and slow, slow, slow and then kill the 5k on Saturday.

From allie on Thu, Dec 08, 2011 at 21:20:27 from 24.10.191.18

slow training. fast 5k. it's all in the wrist.

From I Just Run on Fri, Dec 09, 2011 at 02:17:52 from 166.205.12.32

20 degrees.... wow it's cold out there! I've found out it takes at least a couple of days for me to recover from runs of 15+ miles. The way you've been running I wouldn't worry about much, just rest a little and go crush the 5K.

From flatlander on Fri, Dec 09, 2011 at 09:33:15 from 76.31.26.153

I hear what everyone is saying. I think I tend to run too many hard days in a row, although I don't count slow running as a hard day no matter how long I go. But I also wonder if (i) running hard consistently doesn't improve one's ability to recover more quickly, which is a training advantage, and (ii) how do you know when you are letting off the gas pedal too much? I ran a half in early November for which I was obviously overtrained, but other than that my problem going into big races seems to be not getting the same results I got on my long runs, even after a pretty good taper. Seems to me that one good strategy might be to run hard for two or three days in a row, then go easy for at least two days, or three.

From derhammer on Fri, Dec 09, 2011 at 18:55:49 from 192.156.110.40

Flat, it's hard to say unless one try's something like that and see how his or her body responds.

I am reading Ryan Hall's book Running with Joy and it is super interesting. The book is a day-by-day journal of his 14 week training leading up to Boston. He is all about the hard/easy principle with tempo runs, long runs with mgp, hill runs, and intervals. He runs his recovery/easy miles at 7:00-8:00 pace and this is a guy who runs 4:46 a mile tempo runs.

From flatlander on Fri, Dec 09, 2011 at 19:16:05 from 64.129.54.210

That's very interesting. Does he go hard (tempo, hills, speed, etc.) for two or three days in a row then take two or three easy days, or is he more likely to alternate back and forth? I'm thinking of trying the former method when I start up again in January.

From derhammer on Fri, Dec 09, 2011 at 19:26:10 from 70.113.125.159

No, it's the traditional hard and then easy - no back-to-back hard days.

A runner that I know well trained for Boston last year without much time during the week and ran a 3:03 - he said what helped was running a 10 mile the day after his long runs. I don't think he ran these hard but the mileage on top of the previous day provided the stimulus.

I ain't a coach by any means, however, for you I still think some regular 200-800m repeats would help with leg speed and turnover.

From flatlander on Fri, Dec 09, 2011 at 19:48:34 from 64.129.54.210

For sure I need more of those, didn't do too good on the speedwork my last cycle.

From SlowJoe on Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 12:12:19 from 74.195.74.62

Thanks for the comments everyone, sorry, I've been absent a couple days...

Julie/dh - y'all are right, and I usually do sprinkle in more recovery runs. After I was kinda forced on Thursday/Friday to back off, I'm feeling a lot better.

Flat - I like doing a lot of moderate-paced running, but mostly because I'm too impatient to spend a lot of time at the slower paces I probably should be running.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
2.000.002.00

TM

1150s Red #2 Miles: 2.00
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.000.008.00

I've been in Dallas the last couple days for job interviews, minimal running.  AM 4 on the TM, and 4 PM miles with some strides when I got home.  At least the legs are nice and rested now -- 5K tomorrow!

1150s Red #2 Miles: 8.00
Weight: 0.00
Race: Abilene Jingle Bell 5k (3.08 Miles) 00:18:29, Place overall: 1, Place in age division: 1
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
3.003.086.08

33F.  Success on my sub-19 goal.  I measured it at 3.08 miles and it was not on their certified course, so maybe add 10 seconds to the time, but definitely a big PR and a legit sub-19.  None of the faster folks showed up, so I ran by myself, although it was a 2-lap course so I did some people-dodging on lap 2.  Splits:

6:05, 5:59, 6:00, 25 sec for .08 (5:25 pace for the stub).

Overall Garmin had it at exactly 6:00 AP, which equates to an 18:39 5K time.  Definitely feeling good about my chances for 3:05 now.

Saucony A4 Miles: 6.08
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From JG on Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 12:30:48 from 208.54.35.233

Awesome race, pace, & win! Congrats Joe!!!

From Burt on Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 12:50:57 from 72.223.93.131

Awesome Joe. I really do admire you.

From Rye on Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 12:59:13 from 75.174.11.34

Congrats Joe..... 1st overall too! So, are you a "local elite?"

From JulieC on Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 13:10:51 from 71.35.251.21

I am thinking you need to changer your blog title. You DON'T qualify as slow!! ESPECIALLY after nailing that sub 19 5k!!! btw that is my goal for this next year. So happy for you!!! Wicked awesome splits too!! pretty consistent.

From JulieC on Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 13:11:28 from 71.35.251.21

hey what did you get for first place?

From derhammer on Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 14:48:58 from 70.113.125.159

Sweet run man!

From flatlander on Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 16:45:50 from 76.31.26.153

Congratulations. At that speed, there aren't many "faster folks", although it would have been fun to test out your legs against somebody -- maybe the guy on the motorcycle? Those splits are fantastic. Hope Santa was providing good prizes.

From SlowJoe on Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 17:39:57 from 74.195.74.62

JG/Burt - thanks

Rye - I guess so...for what it's worth...

Julie - the courses here are all nice and flat...it helps! No prizes this time, I don't think, which is not that unusual for Abilene.

dh - thanks

Flat - thanks - I think I could've pushed more the last mile (especially with competition), but I might be viewing how I felt more favorably in hindsight.

From seeaprilrun on Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 19:01:57 from 68.103.253.134

Awesome Joe! Wow! You totally obliterated 19:00! I am so amazed and jealous! I still think you're gonna pull a sub-3 and I won't be swayed.

From SlowJoe on Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 20:14:10 from 74.195.74.62

April - thanks...it'll be a piece of cake, I know a great shortcut. Plus Flatlander bought me a bus ticket.

From flatlander on Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 21:51:55 from 76.31.26.153

I've switched to a monthly pass, so convenient.

From Dave S on Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 18:13:55 from 4.228.192.188

Great run! Way to smash right past that 19 min goal.

From baldnspicy on Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 16:51:08 from 72.63.175.35

Dang!! :-D

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
18.110.0018.11

40F, SSE 10 mph, light rain for a few miles.  Pretty enjoyable run when it wasn't raining - one of those where I would've liked to just keep running.  But I need to keep the mileage somewhat in check to avoid breaking down too much in this last month before the race.  7:35 AP.

Fastwich Miles: 18.11
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From JG on Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 02:12:46 from 71.59.27.33

Nice weekend! Smokin 5k & cruisin 18 miler!

From seeaprilrun on Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 05:40:42 from 205.172.12.229

That's pretty awesome that 7:35 pace is so easy for you! It is also an indicator that your 2:58-3:05 marathon is very achievable. Exciting!

From I Just Run on Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 12:37:36 from 67.79.11.242

Good thinking about keeping the milage in check. That's the problem I made last year before my big race...I think I just kept pushing too hard.

From derhammer on Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 12:58:48 from 192.156.110.34

Looking good.

From Rye on Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 13:41:00 from 174.27.93.160

Sure looks like that 3:05 is in range! Nice run.

From Steam8 on Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 21:51:16 from 166.70.55.77

WOW...super nice FastJOE!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
4.060.004.06

8:48/mile

1150s Red #1 Miles: 4.06
Weight: 0.00
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
10.000.0010.00

50F, SSE 17 mph.  7:49/mile.  Busy week, had to get this one in at 4am...

Kinvaras Miles: 10.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From JulieC on Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:18:56 from 67.41.190.35

love the temps you got there!!! and LOVE the leave time!! gotta love those early risers!! harder in the winter no matter where you are I think.

From seeaprilrun on Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 01:06:06 from 68.103.253.134

Great discipline Joe! 4am is rough--I usually engaged in the art of sleeprunning for those. I'm amazed you pull that pace at 4am! When I was doing 4amruns, I roled out a lot of 9:00 plus miles.

From I Just Run on Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:16:40 from 67.79.11.242

For some reason I've been dreading the early morning runs lately. I've opted to wait until the evening on most of them. Glad you have the drive to do it!

From Rye on Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:25:25 from 70.58.163.66

4am!!!! Best time of the day. Nicely done.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
7.190.007.19

65F, SSE 15 mph.  Wanted 13 miles but I turned around early.  The 5 hours of sleep I got the night before last was ok, but the 3 hours last night was apparently not quite enough.  It was like painful slow motion out there.  Work is kicking my butt right now with late hours.  I also have to fly out to Houston early tomorrow for another job interview, so will probably do what I should've done today and just skip the run.  Hope to catch up with everyone's blogs this weekend...

8:12 AP.

Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 7.19
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From JG on Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 20:38:54 from 71.59.27.33

Good luck on Houston trip!

From Rye on Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 11:46:31 from 70.58.163.66

New job????? Good luck with everything! May the Employment Gods smile upon you.

From I Just Run on Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 16:41:18 from 67.79.11.242

Good luck with the job interview....!

From seeaprilrun on Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 20:55:44 from 205.172.12.228

I hear ya. My month has been crazy, I've had to skip runs, shorten runs, way behind on blogging. Just need to get through to the first of the year and get it back together! Sometimes sleep is just a little more important.

From JulieC on Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 00:13:45 from 71.35.249.158

two thumbs up for MORE sleep!! hope you get some more ZZZZZZzzzzzzssss soon.

From SlowJoe on Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 13:00:17 from 132.3.53.68

Thanks all, finally catching my breath today. Interview went ok.

From flatlander on Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 23:17:17 from 166.249.199.159

You're having the same week as me, just coping better. Hope your interview went well on Thursday.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
12.060.0012.06

34F.  7:35 AP.  Good moderate-effort run to get back in the swing of things.  I never feel awesome after a day off, but this was ok, all things considered.  Starting to catch back up on sleep a little, after 7 solid hours last night.

Fastwich Miles: 12.06
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 11:41:51 from 67.79.11.242

Good run....!

Today's interview day, good luck...I think, have you ever been to Houston?

From Burt on Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 13:25:21 from 72.223.93.131

You may not feel awesome, but you look awesome.

From Kelli on Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 00:32:16 from 71.219.80.158

WOWSA! Look at those great paces you are pulling off on high mile runs and with crappy sleep and traveling! Quite impressive. What weekend is the marathon in January?

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.080.006.08

37F, 8:24 pace.

Since I made it through the week with no workouts, I think I will hammer the last 5 or 6 miles on my 16-miler tomorrow.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.08
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From seeaprilrun on Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 13:11:21 from 68.103.253.134

sounds like a good plan. I bet you will rock it tomorrow.

From I Just Run on Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 15:26:22 from 12.162.141.2

No telling how fast those 5-6 miles will be...!

From flatlander on Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 16:21:23 from 76.31.26.153

Sometimes it's good when work intervenes and slows me down, keeps me from doing something dumb. Not that you would, of course.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
10.006.0016.00

50F, overcast.  Pretty good run today.  Did the first 10 easy, followed by 6 fast, but I didn't have a specific pace in mind - it ended up being a nice progressive tempo.  Probably a perfect marathon workout.

10 ez - 7:40 AP

6 fast - 6:28 AP  (6:38, 6:33, 6:32, 6:23, 6:21, 6:18).

AP for 16 miles - 7:13

Probably could've gotten a nice 10K PR today if there was a race.  It was surprising how good it felt in the 6:30s, really encouraging.  So, of course, I picked it up for the last 3 until it hurt a little more.  Didn't take much extra speed to get that special threshold-y feeling.

Gonna do some higher mileage this next week, all easy, with my last long MP run on Christmas.  This cycle has had a definite lack of workouts, maybe 1/week at best, but by making sure I'm fresh for them, they have all been pretty good.  Seems to be working so far.

Saucony A4 Miles: 16.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From ACorn on Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 17:45:46 from 24.2.76.146

Your training is looking really solid. Those last 6 miles are impressive.

From Rye on Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 22:12:33 from 174.27.101.93

Sounds like you had the runners high today! Good luck with this week with your higher mileage. Long run on Christmas Day??? Enjoy.

Guess I need to look at purchasing that orange shirt that you and flat share! Disgusting!

From seeaprilrun on Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 22:38:24 from 68.103.253.134

Awesome! You are peaking at just the right time!

From JulieC on Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 23:46:27 from 71.35.249.158

yes AGREED, you are peaking just right....just hold the reins back like planned and "drop the hammer" come race day (right, April ; D). love that 630s feel great to you!! :D

From I Just Run on Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 07:56:22 from 166.147.76.232

Wow...you're probably tired of hearing this but its amazing how fast you're getting! You've got some good racing coming up :-)

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
4.130.004.13

56F, raining.  8:31/mile

1150s Red #1 Miles: 4.13
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From JG on Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 19:05:55 from 74.190.53.159

Nice shakeout after your killer run yesterday!

From Steam8 on Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 00:43:14 from 166.70.55.77

WHAT??? only 4 miles?? jI don't think I have ever seen that on your blog! You did have a great workout yesterday though! Nice to see that you don't run 20 miles everyday! :)

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
10.030.0010.03

37F, W 21-28 mph, w/c 26F.  Cold front arriving...weird direction for the wind though - it's usually only from the west briefly if it is switching from south to north, but it's a steady west wind today.

8:09/mile for the run, my legs are still tired from Sunday so I wasn't quite into my preferred GA pace range, but I needed the rest so I let the legs pick the pace.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 10.03
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Rye on Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 14:32:06 from 70.58.163.66

Is it ever calm in Abilene? I thought that it blew in Idaho!

From I Just Run on Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 17:21:58 from 67.79.11.242

I bet you didn't show off your orange shirt in that weather...man that's tough! Way to tough it out!

From SlowJoe on Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 21:00:24 from 74.195.74.62

Rye - it hasn't been too bad lately, just every once and awhile. Springtime is the worst...

IJR - yep, the orange shirt only comes out when I mean business!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
15.560.0015.56

36F, SSW 10 mph.  7:43 AP.  I herded a cow today who had gotten out.  She was on the dirt road and kept running away from me as I approached.  After about a half mile, she went down a driveway and hopped over a section of barbed wire fence that was sagging down a little.  Seeing a cow jump a fence was a first for me.  There was a bunch of similar-looking cows in that field, so I think I unwittingly but effectively herded her back into the right place.  Learned 2 things:

1. Cows can run a sub-4 800m.

2. Cows can hurdle

Fastwich Miles: 15.56
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Rye on Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 14:29:55 from 75.174.19.85

I must say..... you Texans have adventures! I guess cows could hurdle snow drifts????

From derhammer on Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 17:49:29 from 192.156.110.40

Wow - you must have been quite a site to make a cow hurdle. LOL.

From I Just Run on Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 10:37:32 from 67.79.11.242

Wow...you've got half of roping down...

#1 Chase a cow

#2 Swing a rope

Oh yeah...next time use a horse..!

Merry Christmas Joe...!

From seeaprilrun on Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 13:34:14 from 68.103.254.209

LOL I just about fell out of my chair when I read that! Great medium-long run. Houston is not far. Do you have a taper plan laid out?

From SlowJoe on Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 17:02:00 from 75.23.41.217

Rye - Good question...what's a snow drift?

DH - cows, small children, they all run from me

IJR - thanks for the lesson. The one day I didn't bring my rope with me...

April - yeah, pretty much a 2-week taper once the new year starts. I'm somewhat following one from the Pfitz book.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

50F, 8:27 pace, now in Longview for a few days.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From JG on Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 23:13:17 from 71.59.27.33

Great running all week! Have a Merry Christmas!!

From Dan on Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 23:59:47 from 24.209.83.20

Good week, good temps. Have fun in Longview! Merry Christmas!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
12.120.0012.12

46F.  7:50 pace with some good hills in Longview.  Actually felt a little beat up afterward despite the easy-ish pace.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 12.12
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From JG on Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 14:06:19 from 71.59.27.33

Nice run, double digit miles with hills always leaves me feeling beat up!

From Steam8 on Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 20:15:40 from 166.70.55.77

Ya...that easy-ish pace really wouldn't work you our much! ha! Merry Christmas FASTJoe!

From Rye on Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 21:18:17 from 174.27.90.151

Great week Fastjoe (steam I agree, let's make it stick) have a great week with the family!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
4.200.004.20

40F.  recovery pace w/ strides

1150s Red #1 Miles: 4.20
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From flatlander on Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 13:19:48 from 76.31.26.153

Merry Christmas to you and yours. Good running week, loved the cow story.

From Burt on Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 04:19:14 from 72.223.93.131

The mad cow. Merry Christmas Joe. Hope those little girls of yours have a great time.

From SlowJoe on Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 15:51:17 from 74.195.74.62

Merry Christmas to you two as well.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
8.0014.0022.00

39F, overcast.  Perfect morning for a runner.

Merry Christmas all.  This was my big Christmas run, the most grueling of the cycle.  8 easy, followed by 14 at GMP.

First 8 @ 7:37 AP.

Last 14 @ 6:53 AP.  Splts were pretty even - 6:54, 6:57, 6:56, 6:46, 6:51, 6:55, 6:56, 6:53, 6:54, 6:53, 6:53, 6:52, 6:52, 6:46.

22 miles total @ 7:09 AP.

Interestingly, this was the first run of this cycle where the limiting factor was my legs, not my lungs.  Even through the last mile it felt aerobically (pretty) comfortable, but I just couldn't seem to propel myself any faster when I tried in the last mile.  This run marks the end of a 74-mile week which is a lot for me, so I am hoping it is tired legs, and that with a good pre-race taper, the dead-leg thing will not be a factor.  I mean, I need to do an extra 12 miles at race pace on top of the 14 I did today!  Still very happy with the run, and even happier that it's done.  I do feel like I'm in shape for 3:05 but with very little room to spare.  Jan 15 should be an interesting day...

Saucony A4 Miles: 22.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Rye on Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 16:18:11 from 174.27.79.220

Nice! All that mileage would equal tired

legs for sure! Enjoy the rest of the day.

From Bonnie on Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 18:25:09 from 150.135.115.190

Great run, Merry Christmas Joe!

From I Just Run on Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 18:49:07 from 166.147.79.93

I'm getting really excited for your race. Sure seems things are lining out to be a great race for for you...!

From seeaprilrun on Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 02:09:53 from 205.172.12.229

I know exactly how you feel. In fact, in all my runs recently, even speedowork, I really feel that the limiting factor is my legs. Aerobically I can be doing just fine but my legs get tired and that is where it gets hard.

From SlowJoe on Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 15:30:38 from 74.195.74.62

Rye/Bonnie/IJR - Thanks!

April - interesting, I usually have to slow down (like in a tempo or something) because I am just out of breath. Maybe a tired legs and/or fuel issue..

From JulieC on Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 17:14:10 from 70.56.111.22

GREAT RUN JOE!! how do you feel today? hope you got a great nap in!! TAPER time coming up, you deserve it!!

From JG on Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 17:18:08 from 71.59.27.33

Woohoo! That is a sweet run! I think with rested legs & race adrenalin/fueling ... you can take that straight to the finish! Nice job, I am excited for you!!

From derhammer on Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 21:40:51 from 70.113.125.159

Joe - you are definitely going to smash 3:05 - this run was better than any of my training runs, so I think you will do great.

My legs always go before my aerobic condition, esp. MGP runs since you are running in relative easy zone aerobically. It's all about endurance, strength, energy and the mental toughness to push through (my weakest part.)

From SlowJoe on Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 11:09:41 from 132.3.53.68

Julie - thanks, I actually recovered well this time which has not always been the case.

JG - thanks, that is what I'm hoping!

dh - I definitely appreciate the vote of confidence from a guy who just threw down a negative-split 3:02, thanks. Maybe next time, I'll do more runs of 22+ miles to get more of that same sensation in the legs. Hopefully I can push through it on race day.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
9.000.009.00

32F.  8:08/mile.  My legs were a lot more responsive than they have been 2 days after my last two long MP runs.  Definite improvement in recovery, felt pretty good today but kept it in the 8's to play it safe and make sure I'm soaking up the benefits of Sunday's run.

1150s Red #2 Miles: 9.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 11:20:57 from 67.79.11.242

Glad to hear your legs are better. I bet in the next few days you'll start to feel great and ready for the race!

From Kelli on Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 16:21:10 from 71.219.80.158

Your Christmas run was incredible!! You are so ready for this race, I am excited for you. If you can complete that grueling workout, you can do a 3:05. For crying out loud, I could not do that workout and I got a 3:06.

The stars all better align, you are so due for the PERFECT race!!!!

From Rye on Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 21:47:15 from 174.27.79.78

I ditto Kelli. The stars never seem to line up

for me. Let me know what the secret is!

From SlowJoe on Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 21:53:19 from 74.195.74.62

IJR - yeah these 3 weeks are likely to go by slowly.

Kelli - I need some of your race day magic. Actually I need your crazy-good endurance more. Send me both.

Rye - I'd heard child sacrifice worked, but so far not for me. I used to have as many kids as you!

From seeaprilrun on Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 21:54:58 from 205.172.12.230

Getting excited for Houston! Have you started obsessing over the weather yet?

From SlowJoe on Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 22:06:37 from 74.195.74.62

I can't yet. Accuweather will have something once we're 2 weeks out, then I will start. Although Accuweather also said it would be 45 degrees for Houston last year when we were 2 weeks out. We know how that worked out.

From Kelli on Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 23:15:35 from 71.219.80.158

You need some of April's sub-3 race day magic!!! I had one good marathon (2010) and it was sweet! I had a few icky moments (with the heat) but otherwise felt great. This year, although a slight PR, it did not feel great or even remotely good. Hopefully one of the 4 next year will because I am going to retire at 39.

You are due! But, I am gonna stop talking about so I do not jinx it. ;o)

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
12.000.0012.00

44F, SSW 16-24 mph.  7:39 AP.

This week I'm just shaving off a mile or two from a few runs, but should still be in the 60s for the week.  Next week the taper will become more significant, with about a 50-mile week.  Then, obviously taking it really easy for the last week.

Kinvaras Miles: 12.00
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From I Just Run on Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 13:13:39 from 67.79.11.242

Sounds like a good plan...I guess it's all down hill from here...Wait a minute, that doesn't sound good does it ? :-) Well, you know what I mean!!!

From Rye on Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 17:50:15 from 174.27.79.78

You are such a slacker!

From JG on Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 00:19:28 from 71.59.27.33

Must be nice shaving miles & still getting 12 in, you make me feel like a slacker!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
6.000.006.00

34F.  8:31 AP.  Very creaky and hobbly the first couple miles.  Need taper

1150s Red #1 Miles: 6.00
Weight: 0.00
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From Steam8 on Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 12:35:39 from 166.70.55.77

Creaky and hobbly! It sounds like me when I wake up in the morning! What are you tapering for ????

From SlowJoe on Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 12:39:01 from 132.3.53.68

Houston marathon is in 17 days. I'm hoping I can join that cool BQ club you belong to!

From Steam8 on Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 12:43:21 from 166.70.55.77

Haha! You are already so dang fast....it won't be a problem for you. I got lucky. I just had a great run day and didn't have to hit any of the POPs on my run. Those always kill my time! ha!

I wish I was running the Houston Marathon. I am going to do that someday since I used to live there.

I am so excited for you! GOOOOOOD LUCK! Is flatlander running it with you?

From SlowJoe on Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 12:46:55 from 132.3.53.68

Thanks Steam - I definitely recommend it...nice and flat and sea level, as you know!

I think Flatlander is waiting until Boston for his next full.

From JG on Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 15:05:09 from 71.59.27.33

If I did your recent runs I would be crippled not creaky! Rest up brother, just keep the blood flowing through those legs ... Houston is going to be a fun day for you!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
7.004.0011.00

43F.  7:23 AP.  Intended to do an 11-mile progression run today but it ended up being just 10 plus a cooldown mile.

8:09, 7:56, 7:44, 7:34, 7:23, 7:13, 7:02, 6:53, 6:43, 6:39, 7:53.

I probably should have been able to keep it up and finish in the 6:20s, but it was a definite "off day."  I was already breathing too hard at mile 3...mile 10 ended with a steep 30-40 ft hill and I knew I was done after that.  MP felt like 10k pace, just a yuck-day.  I am hoping the 22-miler is just still in my legs, although you'd think 5 days is enough to recover.  Oh well, taper is coming up soon.  I do have 1 more workout next week; maybe it won't be quite as confidence-shattering.

Saucony A4 Miles: 11.00
Weight: 0.00
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From I Just Run on Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 13:03:28 from 67.79.11.242

Just so you know...Last year on Dec. 30 you ran 5 miles @ 8:24. It's amazing how far you've come.

I think the the mental monster is trying to play games with your head...just breath and run..!!!

From JG on Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 14:35:38 from 71.59.27.33

22 miles with 14 sub 7 take a toll ... 4 more fast miles after 6 is great! Nice run, right now good nights sleep will help you more than speedy workouts ... you'll be ready to roll in 2 weeks!

From Rye on Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 14:49:07 from 174.27.80.234

You are a man of consistency! I agree, your pace has bolted up the ladder. Who knows what you will be capable of as you continue to train properly.

From Steam8 on Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 17:17:49 from 166.70.55.77

I wish I could have one of your off days on one of my race days! ha! Nice run FASTJOE!!!

From Burt on Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 19:29:26 from 72.223.93.131

You are a man of constant sorrow.

From Dan on Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 22:31:16 from 24.209.83.20

Ok Burt made me laugh... You always bounce back solid- and I will take it anytime!

From flatlander on Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 19:50:48 from 76.31.26.153

Yeah, don't stress over it. Still plenty good to set you up for Houston. That needs to be your next good one, whereever the workouts fall in the meantime is fine in my opinion. You did it once and you will most likely be able to do it again.

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
5.100.005.10

72F, SW 15 mph.  Ah I remember when 72 felt cool, now it feels like a sauna.  8:32/mile recovery in the early afternoon.

1150s Red #1 Miles: 5.10
Weight: 0.00
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From Rye on Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 15:57:52 from 174.27.84.223

Enjoy your taper Fastjoe! You deserve it and hope that you stay healthy and enjoy the new year with your family!

From Kelli on Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 22:54:01 from 71.219.66.129

That would feel downright toasty!

Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
2638.16323.592961.75
1140s #1 Miles: 84.881140s #2 Miles: 211.23New Blue Asics Miles: 143.331140s #3 Miles: 498.48Saucony A4 Miles: 201.791150s Miles: 492.231150s Red #1 Miles: 416.51Kinvaras Miles: 342.771150s Red #2 Miles: 247.83Kinvaras - Blk/gray Miles: 204.08Fastwich Miles: 98.82
Weight: 0.00
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