Rob Murphy

December 30, 2024

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Location:

Salt Lake City,

Member Since:

Feb 11, 2010

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Other

Running Accomplishments:

I had some success in high school and college. Winner 1985 Rod Dixon Run 

Had a fair amount of success as a Masters runner for most of my 40s. 

Short-Term Running Goals:

Have fun with running, explore more trails, stay healthy.

Long-Term Running Goals:

Keep running and racing consistently for as long as I can. Find what is sustainable for me over the long run.

Personal:

I teach AP European History and other courses at Alta High School. I coached the track and cross country teams at Alta for 16 years.

Married, two kids - Abby and Andy

My Twitter  @murphy_rob

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Miles:This week: 0.00 Month: 124.75 Year: 1734.45
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
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10.25 miles on the treadmill averaging 8.3 mph. Alternated between 1.5 and 2%.

OK. Now I have to vent. Yesterday I was spending (wasting?) time browsing over some old threads in the discussion forum when I came across one in the Running section entitled "Elite Runner X Does Bad Thing Y...", started by Sasha. Sasha pointed out that virtually all the Olympic trials qualifiers in the Marathon over the past several years from the state of Utah have been LDS. He continued saying that since 30% of Utah's population is non-Mormon, that you would expect 30% of the Olympic trial runners to be non Mormon as well.

Sasha then went on to conclude that it must be the LDS practice of abstaining from alcohol and caffeine that accounted for their disproportionally high numbers among Utah's elite runners. I'm quoting from one of his posts... "so there is something in LDS culture that makes one a better runner".

Here is the real answer in two parts.

1. Almost all elite distance runners in this country start running early in their high school years. As a demographic, high school runners tend to come from affluent, educated, white, suburban families. Outside of Salt Lake City and Park City, the population that fits that demographic in Utah is way more than 70% LDS. Closer to 80 or 90 percent I'd say - going by the demographics at Alta High School where I coach. The non-LDS population of this state is disproportionally lower middle class and minority - groups not traditionally attracted to distance running.

2. We produce lots of national class high school runners here in Utah and many of them are not LDS. Based on my observations as a long time coach in this state, virtually all of the elite LDS runners end up going to college at BYU or somewhere else in Utah. They also tend to remain in the state after graduation. So, when they reach their distance running prime and are thinking about the Olympic trials, they are still Utahans. On the other hand, most of the top non-Mormon kids go to college out of state and they never return. Examples include Laura and Jackie Ziegle, Patrick Smyth, and Luke Puskedra.I believe the Ziegle's went to Colorado, Patrick ran at Notre Dame and is now training at Mammoth with Terrence Mahon. I'm sure if he were here in Utah he'd be dominating the Top of Utah Marathon! Luke just finished 3rd at the NCAA Cross Country championships running for Oregon.

I would agree with Sasha, at least partly, if Utah's non-LDS runners were pounding a twelve pack every night. But I'm fairly certain than most top runners, Mormon or not, have fairly healthy lifestyles.

So there, that's the answer. I feel better now.

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Comments
From Fritz on Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 21:09:35 from 65.116.116.6

Rob, How about we both qualify just to prove this theory wrong? Kidding aside, I think the work ethic and discipline have a lot more to do with their success than abstaining from alcohol and caffeine. I am in no way advocating it but the reality is that most elite endurance athletes, e.g. Lance Armstrong, drink some alcohol and caffeine, likely in moderation.

From allie on Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 21:14:53 from 174.23.238.75

i like your answer. and i will have to agree. i also like the fact that you are digging through old posts. there are some seriously intense discussions on there, but i rarely get a chance to read through them. this was a good one to bring to light!

From Jon on Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 20:23:55 from 98.71.144.213

There have been a lot of... um... intense blog posts, most involving Sasha. I tend to laugh more than get worked up these days, though it always wasn't that way. I like your responses, though- good points.

From Jon on Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 20:25:38 from 98.71.144.213

Maybe we should point out to them that the fastest runner on the FRB isn't mormon...

From Steve on Wed, Dec 08, 2010 at 01:14:59 from 173.127.172.219

Love it! Your post made my day Rob!

I'm LDS, and you know my diet...

From Rob Murphy on Wed, Dec 08, 2010 at 10:19:43 from 205.127.70.66

Jon - yeah, I noticed that you contributed to the original discussion back in 2007.

Fritz - You'll have to go it alone, I have to be content with being the fastest 46 year old I can be.

Allie - Great race last Sunday. I might put that one on my list.

Steve - I thought you had reformed? No more twinkees right?

From steve ash on Wed, Dec 08, 2010 at 13:10:31 from 64.134.238.173

This is one reason why I don't blog here any more. Why does it have to be about religion or "Word of wisdom" practices? Most of the world isn't LDS anyway and could care less..

From Rob Murphy on Wed, Dec 08, 2010 at 14:41:19 from 205.127.70.66

Steve - I actually have not noticed that. Maybe I'm not paying close enough attention. I just felt motivated to respond to the one discussion thread I read with what I believe to be the facts.

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