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Location:

FL,

Member Since:

Mar 20, 2007

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Boston Qualifier

Running Accomplishments:

PR's:

  • 1 mile : 5:43 (3/2017)
  • 5K : 18:34 (12/2011)
  • 5 mile : 32:03 (5/2010)
  • 10K : 39:29 (11/2013)
  • 11K: 46:47 (July 2008)
  • Half Marathon : 1:26:47 (11/2012)
  • Marathon : 3:06:34 (02/2010)
  • 50K Trail: 4:34 (01/2012)
  • 50 Mile: 8:34:48 (4/2012)
  • 100K: 11:06 (2/2012)
  • 100 Mile: 24:19:44 (1/2022)

Marathons:

  • Treasure Coast Marathon (FL) - 3:39:51, Mar 2021
  • Towpath Marathon (OH) - 3:35:26, Oct 2019
  • Jacksonville Marathon - 3:31:10, Dec 2018
  • NYC Marathon - 3:49:12, Nov 2017
  • Marine Corps Marathon - 3:27:00, Oct 2016
  • Utah Valley - Jun 2016
  • Marine Corps Marathon - 3:28:12, Oct 2015
  • Pocatello Marathon (ID) - 3:32:25, Sept 2015
  • Chasing The Unicorn (PA) - 3:31:20, Aug 2015
  • Run for The Red (Poconos) - 3:30:40, May 2015
  • Boston - 3:24:42, Apr 2015
  • Clearwater - 3:27:04, Jan 2015
  • Clearwater - 3:16:17, Jan 2014
  • Boston  - 3:27:00, Apr 2011
  • DesNews - 3:10:57, Jul 2010
  • Gasparilla  - 3:06:34, Feb 2010
  • Space Coast - 3:11:29, Nov 2009
  • Estes Park  (7500' and up) - 3:52:19, Jun 2009
  • Boston - 3:17:22, Apr 2009
  • Niagara Falls - 3:19:21, Oct 2008
  • San Diego RnR  - 3:24:18, Jun 2008
  • Jacksonville Marathon -3:21:24, Dec 2007
  • Chicago Marathon - 3:35:08, Oct 2007
  • Disney Marathon - 3:52:34, Jan 2007

 

 

 

 

Short-Term Running Goals:

 

  • Sub 40:00 10K
  • 2:59 Marathon
  • 1:25 Half Marathon
  • 18:30 5K

 

Long-Term Running Goals:

Maintain my health and continuously seek to improve my fitness. Maybe someday get under 3:00 for marathon. More importantly, I'd like to figure out what my maximum ability is and reach that.

I'd also like to find the right balance in life and use running to enhance and improve myself.

 

Personal:

Dad of  three (welcome Charlotte Dani on 8/10/20) awesome kids and stepdad to three almost as awesome as my own kids.

I have a brown dog named Stella, and three cats - Catty, Tortie, and Esperanza.

  (old lines that were a little out of date but couldn't quite bring myself to removing them completely:) Also, have one wonderful brown dog named Sammy and just added a grey tiger cat (Catty) whose life started out rough but now has a better home.

I've recently started another blog so I can easily add lots of pictures and so other non-FRB users can leave comments:

Forward Progress!

 Also, for 2012 I started a blog to write down each day one thing that I am grateful for

Grateful Blog

 

Love living in Florida but love to travel and see the country and rest of the world.

 

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Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
1150.96332.5663.7525.450.000.000.001572.72
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
4.002.200.000.000.000.000.006.20

Ran Trinity Y loop, overall at an 8:08 pace with some of the miles at MP or faster.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
2.002.000.000.000.000.000.004.00

Ran on the treadmill, with 2 easy miles and two MP miles, followed by some lower body weight training.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
5.001.200.000.000.000.000.006.20

6.2 mile Trinity  Y loop with Randy, Dixie and Eudair.   About 8:21 pace overall.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
7.004.000.000.000.000.000.0011.00

Ran 11 miles at Starkey park, good warm up on the way out and picked it up on the way back.  Last mile was at 7:11 pace

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
3.202.001.000.000.000.000.006.20

Ran loop with Eudair, Dixie, Raj , and Randy, about 1 mile was at a 6:40 pace, very hard.  Nice warm up for first 2 miles.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
3.003.200.000.000.000.000.006.20

Ran 6.2 mile loop with Eudair, overall pace was 7:46 with the first half slower than the second half.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
3.400.000.000.000.000.000.003.40

Ran two loops around the neigborhood, overall pace of 8:18

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
1.400.000.001.000.000.000.002.40

Ran on treadmill at Y for about 20 minutes.  Did two 800's at 6:22 pace (3:11 800) with warmup and cool down and slower pace between 800's    First time trying this out to see what it would be like

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
10.900.000.000.000.000.000.0010.90

A nice long run in Starkey park. Early start at 6:45 am. Didn't feel too much like running that morning.   Decided I would do 9 miles.  Beautiful morning for running.  At 5 miles just after I had turned around to head back ran into three people I knew and ran with them back in the outbound direction as they were doing 10 miles.  Slowed down a little bit as one of the runners was a newer runner.  Felt good to go the slower pace for  a change although we did pick it up slightly on the way back.  Ended up with 8:48 average pace for the entire run.

Comments
From Sasha Pachev on Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 10:41:25

Mark - welcome to the blog! We are looking forward to watching your progress. So far from what I see in your training, one thing I think will help you - run 6 days a week, and in those 6 days never end a day without having run at least 6 miles. The pace does not matter as long as it is not too fast, you have plenty of speed for Boston qualifier, just need to do some time on your feet to hold it.

From Mark on Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 09:44:35

Thanks for the encouragement Sasha. I think this is a great site. Your advice sounds good. Last week I added one more run for 5 runs where I used to do 4 runs per week. I'll do 5 runs for a few weeks and then add one more. After the Disney marathon I had some tendonitis which I have recovered from now so I've been working on ramping up my miles. Thanks again!

From Sasha Pachev on Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 15:37:24

Mark - the principle of balanced loading applies very well in running. E.g 4 legs are better at supporting the weight of a table than 1, but 6,7,8 or even 9 are better. So if you spread your training volume into as many runs as your schedule will permit, you will be able to handle more and get better results.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
4.001.000.001.250.000.000.006.25

Met up with the guys this morning for the usual 6.2 mile run.  Most of it was pretty easy with a buildup at the end.   Last full mile was at 6:57, and 6:30 pace for last .25 miles.  Felt very good today.  Overall pace for the run was 8:19

Comments
From Sasha Pachev on Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 15:33:31

Good run. What about Monday?

From Mark on Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 10:16:19

No run on Monday, this has been one of my off days, but I will start doing a Monday running in a couple of weeks, leaving just Sunday as my rest day.

From Sasha Pachev on Wed, Apr 04, 2007 at 15:06:39

If you feel you need two rest days a week, probably sometime in the middle of the week would be better instead of Monday so you do not have two consecutive days of no running. But it is even better to just cut the mileage from each day and do 6 days a week with the same mileage as 5.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
4.002.003.000.000.000.000.009.00

Met up with Eudair at 5:30 this morning.  It is her week off so she had extra time to run so we did 9 miles.  Ran from the Y out to the horse farm.  I had dropped off some water 3 miles out so we stopped on the way out and the way back for water as well as a short break to stretch at 4.5 miles.  First mile was about 8:40 then we picked it up with some 7:30's and three miles around 7:00 (7:10, 6:55, 6:59).  Felt very good as if I could have gone farther.  Weather was great at about 63 degrees, although very dark in some spots.  Overall pace was 7:58 including three breaks.

 At some points during the run had some mild shin pain which came and went so I'll have to keep an eye on that.
 

 Last week I did 5 runs.  I plan on doing 5 runs this week and then boosting that up to 6 runs in another week or two.   This will give me a good base when I start my 18 week Chicago marathon training in the beginning of June.

 

Comments
From Sasha Pachev on Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 12:45:50

Do you realize you nearly PRed in a 5 K on those 3 fast miles? Congratulations on the improvement!

From Mark on Fri, Apr 06, 2007 at 09:37:56

Yes, I thought about it as I was looking at the numbers after the run and it felt good to think about it. When I was running I didn't think about, though, just felt good to keep moving at a good pace :)

Thanks!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
5.000.000.000.000.000.000.005.00

Took it a little bit easier today.   Out later than usual last night entertaining some foreign visitors, but fortunately not too late!   Did 5 miles around the neighborhood.   Nice and cool out this morning.   Started out slow and easy with 9:20 pace then picked up a little bit with a couple of the miles just under 8:00 , average for the run was 8:26

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
2.000.001.500.000.000.000.003.50

After warming up on the Arc trainer, lifted some weights for about 1/2 hour then got onto the treadmill.   Today I did 3 800's at 3:20 pace for each one.   Didn't feel quite as hard as last weeks 2 800's.  I'll go for 4 next week.    With 1 mile warmup, and slower speeds between the 800's and cool down it came out to 3.5 miles.   This was on the treadmill which is very convenient but I'll have to get on the track when I get a chance.
 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
5.002.000.000.000.000.000.007.00

Decided to cut back a little bit for today's run and just do 7.  Met up at the Y until several of my friends showed up.  Headed out towards the horse farm with David, Eudair, and Barbara.  Eudair and Barbara were going to do 15 today.  3.5 miles out David and I turned back and picked up the pace slightly with last two miles at marathon pace.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
2.001.000.000.000.000.000.003.00

Warmed up on the Arc trainer for about 10 minutes, then did about 30 minutes of weight training (upper body).   Got onto the treadmill, ran an easy pace for 1 mile, then did 3 sets of 1/3 mile "hills" (5% grade at 7:35 pace) with 1/3 mile easy running after each one.  Challenging just because it was different.  Very few hills here in Florida, but I might be able to find some to get practice on the real thing.

Comments
From Sasha Pachev on Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 14:33:38

Mark - If you decide to do speed work, make sure to still maintain good mileage for the day with a good warm up and cool down. However, at this point, I do not think you even need speed work. You can run a 5 K at sub 7:00 pace, and yet you have not run a half-marathon at a sub-8:00 pace. You start needing speed work when the difference between your 5 K pace and your half marathon pace is less than 30 seconds per mile. Until then you gain most of your improvement by building a solid aerobic base.

From Mark on Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 09:33:33

Ok, sounds good, I'll hold back on the speed work for now until I get my miles built up some more. I was only trying for a short run and put a little bit of speed work in for variety. Trying not to do more than 10% more miles per week. Working my way up to 6 miles * 5 times per week plus one longer run.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
5.000.000.000.000.000.000.005.00

Was not quite ready for the 5:30 am group run this morning as it was another night out entertaining the customer's from Germany.  So, I did 5 miles through the neighborhood taking a different route from last time.   Total time for the run was 41:34 or about 8:18 pace.  First mile was 9:33 and the rest were between 7:46 and 8:30.    Felt much better at the end of the run than at the beginning.  I'll try for the early run tomorrow and Thursday.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
4.002.200.000.000.000.000.006.20

Did the early 5:30 run this morning from the Y, but today it was just me.    A bit harder to get going and get up to a good pace when I'm by myself.  Did the 6.2 mile loop with an average time of 8:03.    Right shin was bothering me slightly again this morning, not any worse than before and maybe getting a little bit better.  I'll try the early run again tomorrow and might take Friday off from running depending on the shin then try a longer run on Saturday maybe 12 or 13 miles.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
4.001.001.250.000.000.000.006.25

Made it for the early run this morning.   Met up with Dixie, Eudair , and Randy for the 6.2 mile loop.  Stopped once for water and then a second time because the others stopped for water.  Averaged 8:03 counting the first break of about 1 minute, but only counted some of the second break.  Last mile was at 7:05 pace, could have been a little bit better except for the traffic light and a car pulling out of the parking lot as I was heading in.   So, today was a little bit faster than yesterday's 8:06 average where I did not stop for water.  Runs are easier and go  by quicker when going with other people :)   This morning was a bit warmer than yesterday, about 70 degrees and in the high 90's for humidity.  6 miles is becoming easier which is nice.   Shin was even a little bit better today.  I'll try for a few miles tomorrow then a longer run on Saturday.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
1.702.000.000.000.000.000.003.70

Did an upper body weight workout then hit the treadmill for a bit. Ran for just under 30 minutes with a warmup, cool down and a couple miles at marathon pace.

 Would have liked to run a little bit farther this morning but I was already pushing my time to get back home, get ready , and drop son off at school.  Tuesdays and Thursdays are so much easier timewise since I have people to meet at 5:30 then I have plenty of time.  Need to get better about waking up earlier even when I'm not meeting anyone.

 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
4.006.000.000.000.000.000.0010.00

Met up with Dixie this morning just after 6:30 outside of John Chestnut park.  Ran a 7.2 mile loop through the Lansbrook neighborhood.  Maintained a pretty good pace, the beginning was tough for me because it usually takes me a while to get going but Dixie is the opposite where he can get going quickly - but might fade out later (although usually doesn't).

Dixie had to get going so I then ran another 1.8 miles inside the park by myself (7:57 pace for the 9 miles including one water break) and met up with my wife and kids.  Today was the first annual healthy kids day 1 mile fun run.  I ran with Noah (5 years old) and Jenny ran with Andy (8 years old).

I let Noah go at a pace he could handle, he didn't start out too fast, but just kept on going and going, eventually passing a lot of kids who did start too fast.  He finished with a 10:20 mile.

Andy did really well too finishing with a 9:40 mile.

 Today was a fun day to get 10 miles of running.

Comments
From Sasha Pachev on Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 09:47:04

Good training in the last three weeks. At this point, the key is to keep the pace slow enough so that your body can handle the mileage without getting injured.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
2.002.000.000.000.000.000.004.00

10 minute warmup on the Arc trainer, followed by 30 minute of weights (lower body).  Got onto the treadmill for 2 easy miles followed by 2 MP miles.

 Shins still bothering me a little bit (actually just my right shin), not getting any worse but not getting much better.  Hopefully I can shake this.  I'll try to take it a little easier this week.
 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
2.203.001.000.000.000.000.006.20

Early morning run with Eudair, Dixie, Raj, and Randy.  6.2 mile loop course.  Brief stop at 4.6 miles for water at which point I must have stopped the timer on the Garmin.  Average pace for the 4.6 miles was 7:51.  Picked up the pace on the way back but I'm not sure what it actually was since the Garmin was not counting it, although pretty sure it was below 7:00 because I did glance at the current pace a few times which was always below 7:00.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
5.000.000.000.000.000.000.005.00

5 miles on the treadmill this morning after a short warmup on the arc trainer.  Held back from going fast today.  Fairly easy pace gradually increased throughout the run, with first mile at about 8:35 pace and finishing the last mile at 7:53.

Had about 20 minutes left before that before I needed to head back so did some upper body weights. 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
5.201.000.000.000.000.000.006.20

Pretty much an easy run this morning. Met up at 5:30 with Eudair and Raj. Overall pace of 8:10 - nice comfortable run. A little bit of pickup in the middle at about a 7:40 pace for one mile. Great weather for running, low humidity and low 60's.

 I had told Raj that today would be an easy day and itdid feel easy for me today, but two months ago it would not have felt that easy.  It was harder for Raj but he kept up fine although I do get annoyed when others tell me it's going to be an easy run but turns out to be not so easy.
 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
2.000.000.000.000.000.000.002.00

After my usual arc trainer warmup and some fairly light lower body weights I did 2 easy miles on the treadmill.  I had signed up for a 5K tomorrow and wanted to run just a little bit today.  Wish I had done at least 1 more mile this morning.

I know that speed shouldn't be my main goal right now but I thought it would be fun do a 5K for a little variety.  My last 5K was back in November.

 

Maybe I'll do the 1.7 mile neighborhood loop with the kids tonight.
 

Race: Beach to Bayou 5K (3.1 Miles) 00:20:58, Place overall: 11, Place in age division: 2
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
1.900.003.100.000.000.000.005.00

Arrived at the beach early and warmed up with just under 2 miles of easy running (about 8:50 pace).

This beach is at the end of a .8 mile causeway. There was a strong wind coming from land (about 15 - 20 miles per hour), but fortunately was not straight on, but almost.

First mile was difficult with the wind but I made it in 6:57, the second mile went much faster and I surprised myself with a 6:13. I could feel myself fading a little bit on the third mile but I made that in 6:40. The finish line was back inside the beach parking lot but it was not a direct line but had one last turn at the very end, so it was hard to go full speed. For the last mile there was a guy that I was pacing. As we got near the finish line I heard him grunt and then he passed me, I started to catch up with him but did not make it into a life and death struggle as I didn't want to risk hurting myself. Instead I just encrouraged him on staying right behind him. He crossed 1.1 seconds ahead of me and I later found out he was in my same age group. So I finished second but that was ok - at least this time :)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
5.000.000.000.000.000.000.005.00

5 miles on the treadmill at a fairly easy pace no faster than 8:00 pace, average was 8:24.  Felt a bit sluggish at first but feeling great at 4 miles and had to hold myself back from going faster.   Followed up with some upper body weights, just had time for a little over 20 minutes.

 Going to try and put in at least 36 miles this week.
 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
2.004.150.000.000.000.000.006.15

Today's run was a little bit faster than planned.  My ipod headphone cord was tangled up and the others started without me so I had about 45 seconds of catching up with them which meant my first mile, which is usually pretty slow (8:45-9:00), wasn't so slow (8:15).  Then one of the guys who usually doesn't run so fast ran a little bit faster to the first stop.  Randy and Raj were just doing 5 miles today, so Eudair and I split off for the extra mile.  We went a little bit faster on the way back.  Overall pace was 7:37.  It didn't feel that bad but definitely not a slow pace.  Must have helped that I went slower yesterday.   Tomorrow I'll go a little bit slower.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
4.001.000.000.000.000.000.005.00

5 miles on the treadmill this morning at the Y.  42 minutes total time with a slow start and a gradual speed increase every half mile until about a 7:45 pace for the last mile.

Warmed up, stretched and did some lower body weights before the run. 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
4.002.200.000.000.000.000.006.20

A good solid 6.2 miles this morning with Eudair and Dixie.  Raj and Randy started out with us but were just doing 3 miles today as they are doing St. Anthony's triathlon on Sunday.  David was with us for 4 miles, his return to running after last week's survival in Boston.

 

Overall pace was 7:58.   Felt good overall.  It's also nice that at least by the end of the run it is now getting light out.

 So far so good, on track to get 36 miles in this week.
 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
5.000.000.000.000.000.000.005.00

I went to the Y today but decided to skip the treadmill.  After some light warmup and stretching I headed out to the usual Tue/Thu run area.  Ran for 5 miles  starting out at a pretty slow pace then gradually went faster but stayed at a comfortable pace.   Didn't wear the Garmin today which is good to do now and then.  Time for the run was 39:32 but I'm not sure if it was exactly 5 miles, a little over or a little under.  

Got back inside and had time for about 30 minutes of upper  body weights.

Looks like I'm on track for 36 miles this week, just need 9 more tomorrow, maybe I'll do a little bit more.

It was warm and humid this morning at 75°, felt like it was about to rain but it hasn't yet, maybe later today.  We really need it as all the small ponds are starting to dry up.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
6.203.000.000.000.000.000.009.20

Met up with Dixie and Eudair at the Lansbrook Y at 6:15.  Did the first few miles at about an 8:30 pace and stopped for water at the park by the lake.  Headed towards the high school and began to pick things up but not too fast.  Turned around at the high school after a short water break then headed back towards the Y on the bike path.  Pace felt pretty easy but a few of the miles were about 7:35 pace.   Finished back at the Y with a total of 9.2 miles, 8:04 pace overall with 3 of the miles between 7:30 and 7:35.

Made my 36 mile goal for the week. 

 Great weather for running, not too humid and 62°
 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
4.000.000.000.000.000.000.004.00

4 miles on the treadmill.  Average pace about 8:15.   Did some lower body weights first.  Definitely felt like a Monday this morning.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
4.003.300.000.000.000.000.007.30

Woke up a few minutes earlier (4:55 instead of 5:00) to get a little bit more stretching before the run which seemed to help.  It was just Randy and I today.  We took the first few miles at an easy pace then picked up a little bit to an 8:00 pace.   Randy split off at the point to complete 5 miles and I continued up along the usual 6.2 mile route.  I was feeling good so I took a slightly longer way back to the Y for a total of 7.3 miles.   Overall pace was 7:45.

Going to see the doctor today about an abdominal problem, hurts when I sneeze and it has been months since I've been able to do a good crunch.   Want to get it looked at as Chicago marathon training is approaching. 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
4.001.000.000.000.000.000.005.00

5 miles on the treadmill this morning at the Y followed by about 30 minutes of upper body weights.  Overall pace averged 8:05.   Slower and shorter run than yesterday.  Planning on doing at least usual 6.2 tomorrow.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
7.200.000.000.000.000.000.007.20

Good turnout for this morning's run, Dixie, Eudair, Keith, Raj, Brian and myself.   Started at with an easy pace for the first mile (9:00).  Stopped twice for some quick water breaks.  Dixie asked if anyone was up for an extra mile so I said sure and we repeated the run I did on Tuesday but did not go as fast today.  Averaged 8:16 for the run.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
4.200.002.000.000.000.000.006.20

Met up with Dixie, Eudair and Brian at the Y this morning at 5:30 which we usually don't do except for Tue and Thu.  Ran part of the usual 6.2 mile loop to only do just over 3 miles.  Then headed over to the track at the high school next to the Y where we did 4 800's at 3:20 each (actually between 3:18 and 3:21 which was pretty close) with about 3 minutes of jogging between each one.   Didn't feel too hard which was good as we just wanted to do a little bit.

With the more frequent running I have been doing for the past few weeks I have been feeling more fit than ever. 

Doctor visit a few days ago has worked out really well.  After just two physical therapy appointments my lingering lower abdominal pain when sitting up is pretty much all gone.  Glad I didn't put that off any longer. 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
9.003.000.000.000.000.000.0012.00

12 miles, starting at the Y this morning. Weather was already warm at 71°. It was Dixie, Eudair, Franco, Barbara and myself. Barbara, Eudair, and Franco were doing 14 miles, but Dixie and myself only had time for 12 miles which was fine as I had put in a pretty good number of miles for me this week already. We were trying to take things slowly and stopped a few times for water until we had done 7 miles. The last 5 miles were pretty solid with no stopping and miles splits ranging between 7:45 and 8:05. It had warmed up at the end and was 77° and feeling even more humid. With the slower pace at the beginning and breaks counted, the total average pace was 8:42, total time 1:44:28

It's been a good week for running :)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
3.100.000.000.000.000.000.003.10

Ran a 5k distance with the boys this morning.  Andy is going to do a Mother's Day 5K next week with Jenny.  Noah wanted to go along on this morning's run.  We stuck with Noah's pace which overall was 12:35 - not too bad for a 5 year old.  Andy could have gone a lot faster but that's ok since today wasn't the race.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
0.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.00

Decided to take one day off from running even though yesterday was a very light day.  Still though, it was 7 days in a row of running.    

Did 20 minutes on the Arc trainer and then about 45 minutes of upper body weights. 

Another physical therapy appointment this morning, lower abdominal strain is almost all gone now. 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
5.001.200.000.000.000.000.006.20

Early run, met up at 5:30.  Brian, Raj, Randy, Dixie and myself were there.  We almost left without Dixie as he showed up at 5:33.  Not sure where Eudair was today.   It was colder this morning than it had been in about a  month, about 54°.  I felt very sluggish but kept up ok with everyone else, just didn't feel very energetic.  A little bit faster on the last 1.2 miles.  Average pace for the run was 8:10 with one short water break.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
1.005.200.000.000.000.000.006.20

Ran by myself this morning.   Warmed up a little bit first on the elliptical trainer, then headed outside.  Started out slow but not too slow with an 8:10 for the first mile then picked things up to about 7:30 pace and held it there.  A few of the miles were a little bit faster, but nother faster than 7:15.  Overall pace was 7:33.   I think I could have held this pace for at least 2 more miles before it became a real struggle.  Felt a lot less sluggish today compared to yesterday, might have been the extra 45 minutes of sleep.   I'll go a bit slower tomorrow.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
4.002.001.100.000.000.000.007.10

Early run this morning at the Y at 5:30.  Eudair, Randy, myself and a new guy named Randall who is going to do the Marine Corps marathon in October.   Started out pretty easy, with a gradual picking up towards the end.  I tacked on one more mile at the end as I was feeling good.   Went faster but not all out, 6:45 pace.  Overall pace for today's run was 8:03

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
4.200.002.000.000.000.000.006.20

Met up with Dixie and Eudair at the Y this morning at 5:30.  Did an easy warmup of 3.1 miles around the Kinsmere loop.  Headed over to the track at the high school where Dixie and I did 4 800's at 3:20  (each one was either 3:18 or 3:19, we didn't hit 3:20 exactly).  We jogged one lap between each 800.   Total mileage turned out to be 6.2 with an average pace overall of 7:46 (not counting the walk from the Y to the high school).

It was supposed to be smokey this morning (from the north Florida fires) but turned out to be ok when we were running.  Unfortunately the smoke still came.  Andy is supposed to be finishing his "marathon" today at school.  His 2nd grade class has been walking one mile each day (a few days have been 2 miles when they needed to catch up).   The kids have really loved doing this.  If it is too smokey today, hopefully they can finish up on Monday.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
6.004.000.000.000.000.000.0010.00

Met up at Starkey park this morning at 6:30 - it was Dixie, Keith, Eudair and myself.   Wanted to get started before it got smokey out which could have been as early as 8:00 but has so far not shown up.  First 4 miles out were at an easy pace, although it felt hard to get started.  Eventually things fell into place.  After 4 miles, slowly picked things up.  Had to tell the others to slow down at one point because everyone was feeling good but we all said we didn't want to go too fast today.    Overall pace was 7:57.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
0.500.000.000.000.000.000.000.50

Ran the "I love Mother's Day" 5k and 1/2 mile run.   Jenny and Andy ran the 5k as a mother/son team.  It was Andy's first 5k with a time of 30:47.  I ran the 1/2 mile race with Noah in just under 5 minutes.  Noah wasn't too happy about not being able to do the 5K, but other than that we had a great time.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
5.000.000.000.000.000.000.005.00

After a fun day yesterday of eating too much, it was time to get back on track.   Made it to the Y just after 6:30.   Had time to warm up and stretch then did 5 miles on the treadmill.   Overall pace was 8:20/mile with the fastest mile at 7:47.    Then had time for about 30 minutes of lower body weights.  Did some ab work with a little discomfort someone between none and mild.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
3.203.000.000.000.000.000.006.20

Met up at 5:30 this morning at the Y with Randy, Randall, Dixie, Eudair and David.  Dixie was going a bit faster than usual but I did not try to keep up with him.  Overall pace was 7:44 with the last mile at 7:13.  First few miles were fairly easy.  Pretty good weather this morning with the temp and humidity not too hot and no smoke.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
1.005.001.000.000.000.000.007.00

Ran by myself this morning.  Arrived at the Y just before 6:30.  Stretched and then warmed up a little bit on the arc trainer, then headed outside.  Took the same route as last Wed, the Kinsmere loop then down Grimsby and Wyndtree but went a little bit farther today.  Was feeling good on the last mile and picked things up and did that mile in 6:58 although this wasn't what I planned on doing.   Overall pace was 7:27.  If it wasn't for going faster the last mile I think I could have comfortably done a couple more miles at 7:30 without too much effort.  But as it was I was a bit tired after finishing, although I did have enough left for about 30 minutes of upper body weights.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
6.200.000.000.000.000.000.006.20

No nosense easy run today.  Dixie, Randy , and I headed out from the Y just after 5:30.  Randy has a race this weekend so just did 4 with us.  Dixie and I did the usual 6.2 route but did the initial  1 mile spur at the end rather than at the beginning.  Felt really good especially at the end and wanted to go faster but Dixie was the voice of reason this morning and we just held steady with the pace.  

 
8:07 overall pace.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
0.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.00

No running today, just 20 minutes on the rowing machine, and 30 minutes of lower body weights. Also did some ab work this morning which was completely pain free, so the doctor visit and physical therapy sessions really paid off.

Wanted to take today off to see if I feel "fresher" for tomorrow's run.  6 days a week has been working pretty good for me but I tend to get a lot of criticism that I am running too much, even though I'm not doing any more miles than I would be doing in 5 days. 

Comments
From Sasha Pachev on Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 12:37:19

Who are you getting the criticism from? Everybody I know that runs a sub-2:30 marathon trains at least 6 days a week, and often twice a day. If they did not, they'd be stuck at a lower level.

From Mark on Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 19:47:38

Fortunately not too many people recently have been criticizing me, and certainly not anyone who can run sub-2:30 or even sub-3:00 for that matter. I try not to let any of these criticisms get to me. I'm not under any illusions that when I run my next marathon I can only get out of it what I put into the training for it.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
8.005.100.000.000.000.000.0013.10

Ran through various neighborhoods near the Y.  Met up at 6:30 with Joe and Dixie.  Started off with 8:40 pace for the first mile.  Several miles were around 8:00 or just over 8:00.

Joe split off after 10 miles then Dixie and I continued on for another 3.  Paces were pretty steady, not too hard but not slow.  Last 3 miles were a little bit faster and started feeling a little bit harder.  We decided to back it down slightly for the very last mile.   As we were finishing up, I noticed we were just under 13 miles.  I also noticed that if we ran another .1 miles I would have a new half marathon PR.  That wasn't really the point of today's run, but it was a fun way to finish up.  Overall pace was 7:48.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
4.500.000.000.000.000.000.004.50

Just 4.5 miles on the treadmill, followed by upper body weights.  About 8:20 pace overall, with last mile at 7:50.    Run felt pretty good although I'm trying to fend off an emerging sore throat.  Hopefully I'll be better by tomorrow morning.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
5.001.200.000.000.000.000.006.20

Usual Tuesday morning run at Y starting at 5:30.   Eudair, Dixie and myself today.  Went a little bit slower with an overall pace of 8:12.  Last mile at 7:17.

This morning's run was very enjoyable despite still having a little bit of sore throat, but that is almost gone now. 

Comments
From Lybi on Tue, May 22, 2007 at 10:07:42

Good job--with a sore throat too! Hope you don't get sick. Quick fix for me when I have a sore throat is gargling salt water. So cool that you are representing Florida on the blog.

From Mark on Tue, May 22, 2007 at 13:32:30

Thanks for the encouragement Lybi. I'm doing the saltwater along with Zicam. So far so good :)

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
2.204.000.000.000.000.000.006.20

Another nice and cool morning for running.  Ran by myself this morning.   Left from the Y after a short warmup and stretching inside.  Planned on running 1 easy mile followed by 4 at 7:30 then 1 mile easy.  Unlike last week when I did 1 mile easy followed by 6 miles faster than planned including the last mile much faster than planned, this week I pretty much stuck to the plan.  The 4 miles were just under 7:30 (7:23 - 7:29).  Last mile was at 7:55.   This week I did not feel worn out at all, although not perfect as there is a little bit left over of what I was fighting off yesterday but I think it is mostly gone now.

 Overall pace was 7:35.
 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
6.200.000.000.000.000.000.006.20

Met up at the Y at 5:30.  Dixie and Randy were not there.  Raj was there (finally!).   Eudair came by but was just finishing up her run.  Raj and I did the 6.2 mile loop at a pretty comfortable pace.  The weather was perfect.   I figured that since I went fast yesterday I didn't need to go fast today.  Overall pace was 8:24 with the last mile the fastest at 7:42.  One minute stop for water included in total time.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
3.000.000.000.000.000.000.003.00

This morning was somewhat stressful and busy and I almost did not do any running.  Then I figured that it wasn't that busy that I didn't have time for 3 miles.  3 easy miles on the treadmill 25:00 minutes or about 8:20 average.   Did some weights too as I seem to be shrinking quickly with the running, trying to stay balanced.  But then again, the few pounds I have to carry for 26.2 miles the less energy required.

Comments
From Sasha Pachev on Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 12:43:59

You cannot be a good distance runner and a good weight lifter at the same time. A certain level of upper body strength is good for a runner, but it is much less than what you would need for playing football. I would say that if you can bench press your own weight any extra weight lifting is counter productive for running purposes.

From Mark on Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 19:52:00

Definitely. I have cut way back on my weight training the more I have been running. I do my weights after running so as to minimize the impact on the running. I'm mainly just trying to maintain what I've got at this point. My weightlifting in the past had seemed to plateau, whereas my running has been steadily improving.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
7.004.000.000.000.000.000.0011.00

6:30 morning run at John Chestnut park.  Met up with Dixie and Joe and headed north up the bike path.  Did a loop through a neigborhood at the end of the bike path and then wound back through some different neigborhoods on the way back.  Very fortunate again with a starting temperature of  68°.  Overall pace of 7:56.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
3.001.000.000.000.000.000.004.00

4 miles on the treadmill this morning.  Felt a bit stiff from the weekend but much better after the run.  Thought about not running then decided to just do 3 which seemed kind of lame, so I did 1 more.  Finished off with some lower body weights.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
4.001.001.200.000.000.000.006.20

Another early morning Tuesday run at the Y. It was David, Raj, Randy, Randall and myself. A nice easy first mile, started feeling really good after two miles. Continued easy but a little bit faster for the next two. Started picking up after 4 miles to a 7:35 pace, then picked up the last 1.2 miles, especially after crossing the traffic light to a 6:54 pace. It felt challenging but very controlled and no where near all out.

Overall pace was 7:53 

Slightly warmer this morning at 72°, maybe this is finally the end to the cooler weather.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
3.600.000.003.000.000.000.006.60

Just to see where I am at, I attempted a training run from the book "Run Less, Run Faster". It was quite difficult. Goal was for 10-20 minute warmup, 3 * 1600 m at 6:22 each with one minute rest intervals followed by 10 minutes of cool down. First 1600 was at 6:19 (actually going off of a 1 mile lap, but pretty close .01 miles farther), second was 6:24 (possibly a 6:22 1600). Towards the end of the second one I bargained with myself that if I made the time I would just try for under 7:00 on the last 1600. Since I wasn't sure if I actually made the second one in time, I went a little bit faster on the last one than my bargain, with a 6:42. Then I jogged back to the parking lot for my cooldown, about 10 minutes or so.

Went into the gym for about 30 minutes of upper body weights. 

It was just slightly warm, about 71° , and a little bit of smokey haze, just enough where you could see it and smell it.

Ok, looks like I'm not quite ready for this sort of pace, but I'm not that far off either. It was good to see where I'm at as far as speed goes.

I'll just keep putting in the miles and try again later.

Comments
From Sasha Pachev on Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 12:49:38

This might be a good book to read for somebody training to run a mile who has a high dominance of fast twitch fibers and responds to speed work better than anything else. Even in this case, some base mileage is needed to make sure those fast twitch fibers do not rip the tendons apart. If your goals is the marathon, until your base gets to 60 miles a week there is no need for any kind of speed work, your natural speed is more than sufficient, it will not be the limiting factor.

From Mark on Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 20:04:02

Actually the book does not have any advice or programs for running a fast mile. They do have 5k, 10K, half, and full marathon programs. They also do advocate having a mileage base before starting. I've been torn between trying out the program from this book and sticking with a buildup to 60 miles and beyond. I do know two people who have done this 3plus2 program with great results. I have been giving a lot of thought to both routes.

From Sasha Pachev on Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 11:47:46

My take on that is that speed work is necessary when the mileage alone stops giving improvements. Also, the productivity of speed work is in proportion to your aerobic base. Somebody who runs 80 miles a week and does 12x400 can see benefits all the way to the half-marathon or even the full marathon, while somebody who runs only 20 miles a week will be working primarily on his mile with the exact same workout. The 80 miles a week guy will also recover a lot faster in between the intervals, and after the workout. The 20 miles a week guy will be hurting the next day, while the 80 miles a week guy would not know he did anything the day before except for having the memory of doing it - thus he resumes productive training, while the 20 miles a week guy is suffering from a setback.

I would recommend to continue to build up the mileage and run races or time trials once a month to evaluate fitness.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
3.503.000.000.000.000.000.006.50

David invited us to his house to run instead of the Y.  Got there at 5:45, then started running about 5 minutes later.  3.25 miles up at a fairly easy pace then picked it up a little bit on the way back.  It was David, Dixie, Randy, Keith and myself.  On the way back Dixie started picking it up, I began falling back as I didn't want to go too fast until he said "Mark are you with me?" so I caught back up with him.  Overall pace was 7:48.

 Got back to David's house for some coffee, juice, bagels, and bananas on his front porch.  Karen and Barb were back from their run.  It was a nice change of scenery from the usual routes.

The cooler weather is finally disappearing, but it was still very comfortable weather for running.
 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
3.500.000.000.000.000.000.003.50

Since yesterday was faster than planned and was not a recovery day for the fast running on Wednesday I just did 3.5 today on the treadmill.  I also warmed up with 10 minutes on the rowing machine for something slightly different.  30 minutes of lower body weights after the run.

Tomorrow I'll do a good long run since I really enjoy those a lot. 

Comments
From Sasha Pachev on Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 12:52:51

I would recommend always backing off on the pace before backing off on the mileage when you feel you need rest. 10:00 mile pace is OK for recovery, even 12:00 if needed.

From Mark on Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 20:07:50

Oddly enough, one of my biggest frustrations in the past was running slow. I would get awful shin pains on the outside of my shin where the muscles would tighten up horrible. It was upsetting because I would often see people out for a slow leisurely jog wishing I could do that. Anything faster than 9:00 would help out a lot. Maybe this has changed because the last time I went running with my kids the 10:30 pace was actually quite enjoyable.

From Sasha Pachev on Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 13:34:32

Probably because your form has improved overtime. At 10:30 pace instead of putting in an 8:30 effort to push off, and then another effort to break so you won't actually run 8:30 you now just put in a 10:30 effort to push off.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
7.003.000.000.000.000.000.0010.00

10 miles of mostly "easy" running this morning.  I arrived at the Y just after 6:30.  It had been raining pretty steadily all night but let up a little bit when it was time to wake up.  I was debating what to do if it was raining too hard.  Maybe an hour on the treadmill or maybe run tomorrow.  When I arrived, Karen and Regina had already started to run, there was a light sprinkle.  Dixie, David, Randall and Bob showed up.  The rain had stopped so we started out.  We made it out about 2.5 miles with no rain, then the rain started, pretty light at first.   At the horse farm Eric had caught up to us after starting at least 5 minutes after us.  The rain got steadily worse.  Instead of heading straight back, Dixie, Eric and I went a slightly longer route back to get in 10 miles.  The last 2 miles were pretty intense with a strong wind (maybe 25-30 mph) and a soaking rain.

I let the time keep running for all of the breaks today.  I did stop at at one point when we stopped and knocked on someone's door because a tree in front of their house was rubbing against a power line, causing a visible ball of electricity, some smoke and blackening the end of the tree limb.  The guy who answered the door thanked us and said "Do you guys do a long run each Saturday?"   So we invited him to join us next week.

 Overall pace was 8:02
 

Comments
From Sasha Pachev on Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 12:56:43

You should stop the watch during the breaks. A break will have the effect of increasing the average pace with lesser effort only when the run is anaerobic. Even then, it will be helpful only if you jog or walk, not if you stand still.

From Mark on Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 20:12:41

Thanks!

I've oftern wondered about that. I'm generally not taking the breaks because I need or want to but because the group I am running with is taking the break. When I let the clock run, at the end of the run I think to myself that I worked harder than that, but if I stopped the clock I wonder if I am just fooling myself. I like stopping the clock better.

Also, I've been wondering about speed. You have mentioned on a couple of occassions that my speed is fast enough but my endurance needs work, but when I put my age and miles into your Boston pace calculator it says I need a fast 5k time. Just curious what your thoughts are on this.

Thanks again for taking the time to read my posts.

From Sasha Pachev on Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 13:51:58

Your last 5 K predicts about a 3:20 marathon off 70 miles a week and 3:30 off 40 miles a week. So your 5 K does need to improve a bit to get the Boston Qualifier. Nevertheless, your marathon is way off what your 5 K would predict, which is why I say you need endurance much more than the speed.

5 K is still a largely aerobic race. The reason a 5 K can be used as a fairly good predictor of your marathon potential - 5 K shows how fast you can go with your current aerobic capacity and biomechanics. Fuel storage is not an issue in a 5 K. So we say, assuming that you could perfect your fuel storage and maintain the same aerobic qualities and biomechanical efficiency, this is how fast you will run in the marathon. The good news is that while working on fuel storage, your aerobic capacity also grows. So your 5 K gets faster too, although not by the same margin as the marathon.

At this point, I believe even your 5 K is not limited so much by your mile speed as by the lack of the ability to maintain it. For an experiment to verify this, one day do a good warm-up and the run a mile all out on the track. Try busting out of the blocks fast enough to make it hurt after the first lap, and then just hang in there for the remaining three. What splits do you get?

From Mark on Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 10:35:51

Thanks again Sasha. I'll be running a 5k this weekend and maybe I'll be able to ease my worries about speed and start concentrating more on endurance. Either way it sounds like more miles on a regular basis will either improve my speed gradually or make it so I don't need more speed than what I have now.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
3.102.000.000.000.000.000.005.10

I had a little bit more time this morning, so I came closer to what I should be doing on a daily basis which is 6 miles.  5.1 miles on the treadmill, just under 40 minutes with the first 3 miles easy, 2 miles at about 7:30 per mile, then a brief cool down at the end.  

Followed with 30 minutes of upper body weights. 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
3.302.001.000.000.000.000.006.30

5:30 morning run at the Y.  David, Randy and I showed up.  It was already a warm and very humid 76° at the start of the run.  Had a nice easy start (about 8:30 for the first mile), then Randy picked things up a bit after about almost 2 miles which we kept up until a short water break.   David picked things up after the break and I kept up with him.  The air was very thick and it was noticeably harder than usual.  The pace progressive got faster with the last two miles at 7:07 and 6:43, then cooled down a little bit for the last .3

Overall pace was 7:22 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
3.001.002.000.000.000.000.006.00

Ran by myself this morning.  Picked another run from my upcoming marathon training program.  Today's run was one of the temp runs, much more attainable than the last track workout I tried.  I did two miles easy, which ended up being a about 8:10 each, then the goal was two miles at 6:54 - this turned into 6:49 and 6:51.  I wanted to hit each mile at 6:54 but I was afraid of coming in too slow so I did each one slightly faster than goal.   Last two miles were supposed to be easy.  The fifth mile was 7:35 - a little too fast for easy but it felt much easier compared to the previous two miles, then the final mile was just over 8:00.

 Average pace was 7:34.  This run was challenging but not all out, felt pretty good when finished, then did about 20 minutes worth of lower body weights.

The weather was about the same as yesterday, about 76° and humid but it didn't seem as bad for running so maybe the humidity was down slightly today.

I didn't get much sleep last night because my older dog kept on waking me up to go out, she does this from time to time.  She's very persistent when she does this.  Then I kept on waking up also.  My wife woke up a few times.  No one was in a great mood this morning.
 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
6.500.000.000.000.000.000.006.50

Ran at David's house again this morning.  Raj and Randy were also there.  Some of the others who might normally have been there were on vacation or had other commitments.  Met up about 5:40 (10 extra minutes of sleep!).  Did a nice easy pace on the way up, stopped and grabbed a water then headed back.   Back was a little bit faster at about 7:50.  Average for the round trip including the break was 8:16.  Temp was about 70° and humidity was not bad, pretty much perfect out.  Had some bagels and coffee after the run on David's porch.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
4.101.000.000.000.000.000.005.10

A little bit over 5 miles on the treadmill this morning.  Easy pace for most of it with a slight pick up at the end, then a gradual slow down for the last 0.1.  Total time was 41:30 or about 8:09 if my math is right.  

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
9.105.000.000.000.000.000.0014.10

6:45 run this morning with Joe and David.  Looped through some slightly different routes for a partial change of pace.  Weather was not too bad with some cloud cover blocking out most of the direct sun.   Last few miles were starting to feel hot with a temp about 84° and humidity there but not terrible.   First 10.5 were with Joe and David then I headed back out for a few more.   Pace was pretty good with the second half faster than the first half.

We were thinking about maybe starting these Saturday runs a little bit earlier to avoid the heat. 

 Average pace for entire run was 7:47
 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
5.300.000.000.000.000.000.005.30

Did 5.3 easy miles on the treadmill.  The first mile was pretty slow with a buildup to an 8:35 pace which I held until the last mile, with a slight increase to 8:20.  Enjoyed the slower and steady pace.  I'm not sure I broke much of a sweat.  But it felt good just the same.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
4.202.000.000.000.000.000.006.20

The air felt very thick this morning. Temp was about 79°, humidity about 82%

Not terrible I suppose in that it will get worse. Also I looked up heat index chart and it said that any heat below 80° does not have a significant heat index.

Dixie, Randall, Randy, Keith, David and myself - a pretty good attendance for a Tuesday.

6.2 mile loop, first mile at 8:28 , second mile at 8:10 but it felt much harder. Started to pick up the pace. When I looked at my Garmin the pace was usually about 20 seconds slower than it felt. Had a nice strong finish at the end.

7:49 pace overall.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
1.505.000.000.000.000.000.006.50

Today was a much nicer day for running.  Even though I started later this morning than yesterday it was much cooler, about 73°.  I think it rained a bit just before I woke up this morning.  Did one easy mile, then did 4 miles at a faster pace, backed down slightly for the 5th mile then took it easy for the last half mile.   Maintained a good pace but didn't feel like I was pushing too hard.

Average pace was 7:27 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
3.503.000.000.000.000.000.006.50

Another very pleasant morning for running.  Actually, another few degrees cooler and it would have almost been chilly.  Met up at David's house again this morning.  Also there were Raj, Randy, and Keith.  Up Starkey Blvd bike trail for 3.25 miles and then back, up and a little bit of the back were at an easy pace, then we started to pick up on the way back for a strong finish.

Average pace: 7:37 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
4.500.000.000.000.000.000.004.50

My left foot was bothering me a little bit yesterday.  It's not really hurt just bothering me, so I took it a little bit easy today without totally skipping a run.

4.5 easy miles on the treadmill, about an 8:35 pace.

I'm hoping to be nice and fresh for tomorrow's 5K.   I'm interested to see what if any improvements I've made in the last two months since the last 5K.  I certainly feel a lot stronger now. 

Race: Habitat for Humanity Home Run 5K (3.1 Miles) 00:20:20, Place overall: 1, Place in age division: 1
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
2.500.000.003.100.000.000.005.60

I wanted one more 5K before I start my "official" Chicago marathon training next week.  It was a very small race sponsored by the local Habitat for Humanity so it was also for a good cause.  There were about 30 runners including myself and Randall (who has often run with me the last 2 months).  The race took place in Starkey park which has a nice paved bike trail.  The course was pretty much straight out and back except for the first .1 miles and last .1 miles.  I warmed up with 2.5 mile at 9:00 pace.  It was already starting to get warmer, about 85° by the time the race started.  There was some shade on the way out but full sun on the way back in.  I did better on the first two miles but slowed down a little on the last mile.   I had a new problem today, I didn't have anyone to chase down so it was just me against myself.  Maybe I could have gone faster if there was someone else out in front but not having anyone in front was also nice.  I'm not too far off from one of my goals of breaking 20:00 5k.

I won a $50 gift certificate to Dick's Sporting Goods and a nice engraved hammer as the "trophy" 

Now I can concentrate more on endurance because due to many different charts my 5K time reasonably predicts that I have the capability with the proper training of getting a 3:20.  This 5K was 38 seconds faster after two pretty solid months of steady running. 

Comments
From Brent on Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 23:15:56

congrads on the win and PR.

From Mark on Tue, Jun 19, 2007 at 08:45:06

Thanks Brent!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
5.000.000.000.000.000.000.005.00

5 easy miles this morning on the treadmill and some on the Arc trainer. I still felt a little bit low on energy this morning. On Friday afternoon I felt like I was coming down with something but was relieved to find out Saturday morning that I wasn't sick. After doing the 5k I felt great but felt somewhat tired early that evening. Repeat pattern on Sunday. Tired again this morning but that was ok because I didn't have very much planned as far as a difficult workout. Tomorrow's is supposed to be more mileage and more intense so hopefully I'll be up for it.  If I'm not up for it I'll just do my best to get the miles in.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
3.500.003.000.000.000.000.006.50

I pretty much felt back to 100% this morning.  Maybe not when I first got out of bed but by 5:30 when it was time to run I was ready.  Dixie and Randy were there this morning.  Dixie wasn't feeling great so he turned around after going out two miles.   I did some 1 mile repeats which were better than last time I tried this.  I set my goals a little bit lower, aiming for 6:30 each.  The times were 6:30, 6:25, and 6:20.   With the warm up and cool down it came out to 6.5 miles.

Average pace: 8:03 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
3.100.000.000.000.000.000.003.10

Did some cross training today.  Just over 20 minutes on a stationary bike which was very boring although it was not very easy and I worked up a good sweat.  Decided to do a little bit of running also so I did 5k on the treadmill.    The top of my left foot is bothering me a bit.  I had this happen once before from lacing up my shoes too tightly and it got better by itself.  I'm keeping an eye on it, hopefully it's not a stress fracture.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
3.201.002.000.000.000.000.006.20

Ran with Keith this morning.  He had emailed me yesterday and was interested in doing a tempo run.  Met up at 5:30 and waited a few minutes to see if Dixie would show up - he did not.   We did two easy miles, then did two miles planned at 6:54 which ended up being 6:54 and 6:46, then slowed down for the remainder.  Last mile sped up a little bit to about 7:40 but it still felt a lot slower and easier.   Temp was close to 80°, it was high humidity but a few light sprinkles of rain made it feel much cooler.

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No running today. Foot was bothering me a little bit even with slow running.  Not too bad, but thought I would try and extra day of running rest.

I did however swim for 30 minutes which was extremely hard for me since I don't swim very much and don't know how to correctly do the strokes.   I did keep at it and it was a pretty intense cardio workout especially due to my bad form.

Followed up with 30 minutes of upper body weights, mostly lower weight and higher reps.

Comments
From Sasha Pachev on Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 16:02:10

Based on this week, I would recommend keeping your speed work to no more than one tempo run a week. Your bones do not look ready for a lot of fast running yet. Just keep plodding along until they get stronger.

From Mark on Thu, Jun 28, 2007 at 09:27:20

Yup. This was the first week of doing an interval speed workout and a tempo run during the same week. I was also going into the week with a minor ache so I should have backed off. On the Thursday before this week I started noticing some problems. The day before that I had done a tempo run with no pain. But the next day I noticed something. After taking it easy the next day (Friday), I ran the 5K plus 2.5 mile warmup. No pain that day and it was by best 5K ever. But, the next day (Sunday), my foot was hurting a little bit. Something similar like this happened to me last fall but that time it didn't last very long, I didn't miss any runs, and it was completely better in two weeks. But I was running less at that time and a little bit slower.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
11.402.000.000.000.000.000.0013.40

Foot was ok when starting out. A little bit of discomfort after 2.5 miles but it never got any worse after that. Started out relatively slow but never picked it up too much. Goal was to do 13 miles at 8:09 pace which I accidentally overcompensated for the slower start and ended up with a 7:54 pace. It was pretty hot when I finished, about 85º of non-dry Florida heat. Fortunately there was some shade along the route.

It was just me by myself running today.  Since that was the case I didn't have to worry about taking breaks when everyone else wanted to and then waiting to get started again.  In those cases I either don't stop the clock making it look like I ran much slower or do stop the clock and wonder about what my real pace was.  So, today I stopped three times for water - there were some drinking fountains along the way so I did not have to carry any with me.  I made the stops as brief as possible and just let the clock run the whole time. 

I ran breifly with a woman who was going for a 40 mile run and was training for the Badwater ultramarathon race in Death Valley, 135 miles. Hard to imagine.

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0.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.00

No running today.  But I did do 30 minutes on the rowing machine then 30 minutes of light weight/high reps.

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0.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.00

I was supposed to run this morning.  But something ominous happened.  My wife suggested that I take the day off.   She never tells me to do that.  We pretty much have an agreement between us that it is our job to tell the other person to go exercise when they don't feel like it.  Oftentimes when you don't feel like going that is when you need to exercise the most. 

It was very hard not to run today. 

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0.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.00

One more day of no running.  I did stationary bike for just over 30 minutes, then another 30 minutes of weights.    At least the bike was easier this time compared to last time.  Hoping for a completely pain free run tomorrow.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
6.300.000.000.000.000.000.006.30

Well, after taking off a few days from running to see if my foot gets better I tried running today.  I resisted the urge to do a tempo run that someone else was doing and stuck with the "slow" group.  Ended up with overall 8:14 pace.  Aerobically, it felt very good and easy.  I was a little worried that it would feel hard because I missed more days in a row than I have for a long time.  About 2.5 miles into the run foot started to ache a little bit.  As usual, it wasn't bad and never got worse but it was still there.   One of the guys I run with is a physical therapist and he seems to think it sounds like tendonitis but I think I'll see the doctor just in case it is worse than that.

 

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Did some swimming this morning.  Just over 20 minutes.  At least it was something.  I'm not a very good swimmer but today I got a little bit better at breathing while attempting free style.   Did some ab work and light leg work (leg extensions and leg curls, nothing weight bearing) after the swim.

 Had my doctor appointment which went pretty good.  Diagnosis is tendonitis.  I'm still a little bit afraid of there being a stress fracture that the x-ray won't see.  However based on the low level of pain and the lack of pain keeping me up at night the doctor did not think there was enough there to justify a bone scan.   The bump on top of my foot is probably some irritation to the bone covering, possibly going back to when I dropped a bucket of sand on my foot six years ago and does not neessarily indicate a stress fracture.   And, at least she didn't say anything like "I can't believe you ran on this yesterday!"    So, overall that was good news.

I'll try a not very far and slow run tomorrow after a good warmup.

 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
12.103.000.000.000.000.000.0015.10

Good long run today.  Absolutely no pain for the first 5 miles then a little bit after that which showed up after five miles, wasn't very much and never got worse.  This was an improvement over the last couple of runs.  Kept the pace pretty reasonable.  A few miles were faster but most were around 8:00 with some longer.  Overall pace was 8:14.  Ran the first 10 miles with David.  Joe and Bob were with us for the first 7.  I headed back out after the 10 with David.  It was warming up and was a bit humid today.  Temperature at the end was 83º.

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I didn't run today although I had planned on it.  Decided on one more foot rest day.  I also spent time wondering why I ran 15 miles on Saturday and didn't stop after ten or twelve.  At least I didn't make things worse.   My first goal for Chicago is to make it to the starting line, followed by completing it, followed by various time related goals which I haven't nailed down yet but will thing about it as my training continues.

I did do 6 minutes on the arc trainer followed by 30 minutes on the rower and 30 minutes of weights. 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
7.100.000.000.000.000.000.007.10

A hot and sticky run this morning - actually more sticky than hot as it was "only" 77º.

I resisted the urge to go faster and instead did an 8:14 pace, with first mile at 9:00 pace and the rest between 8:00 and 8:20.

It's a good thing that I resisted because my foot is not 100% but is getting close, a little bit of discomfort on top of foot last 0.5 miles.    I did not use the extra padding today like I did on Saturday.  I laced up my shoe a little bit loose, maybe too loose as it was sliding toward the end and I could feel the top of my foot hitting the tongue and lace area of my shoe.

Was alone for the run this morning, but that was ok.  Easier to do exactly the pace you want to do - at least when it is an easy pace.  No one tempting you to go too fast.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
4.702.000.000.000.000.000.006.70

My new "program" called from temp run with 2 easy and 4 at 7:09 but I don't think I'm ready to get back into that for now.  Actually this is a new program with 3 20 mile runs instead of 5 and one "speed" session (either tempo or intervals but not both in same week) with some weeks off.  Seems pretty sensible.

 Anyway, run went pretty well, ended up doing 6.7 miles.  First two were slower (8:32 and 8:20), third mile was a bit faster.   Refilled my gatorade bottle at the Y with water, then turned around.  Going out there was 3.7 miles, then I took a slightly different way back for a 3.0 mile return trip.  Last mile I picked it up a bit to 7:18.

Average pace was 7:51, probably a little faster than intended. 

 Put some extra padding on the top of my foot.  Pain is better but not all gone yet.

I was drenched in sweat at the end of the run.  It didn't feel that hot when I started out but it was pretty hot at the end with the usual Florida summer humidity.



 

Comments
From Sasha Pachev on Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 18:57:20

In my opinion one should never train by a day-to-day program. You should have a basic idea of what you are trying to do, and have weekly and even daily mileage goals, but even those should always be adjusted either up or down depending on how you feel. I believe you should always get out to train pretty much regardless of how you feel, but you should never force a speed workout on a day when your body is telling you it is not ready for speed. In your situation right now I would drop all speed altogether for two reasons - one is that you are on the verge of injury, and two, your aerobic potential is still very untapped, so you have quite a bit of room to improve from pure aerobic training.

From Mark on Tue, Jul 10, 2007 at 10:32:41

I'm not always very clear on my writing but today's run was not a speed workout. The program that I had wanted to follow did have today scheduled for a speed workout but due to be at least partially injured I decided against it. So, I think I kept in line with your idea that planned runs should be adjusted up or down based on how one feels.

I have read your recommendation against running plans from books or magazines and understand your idea on running a little bit each day and gradually increasing until running 6 days a week, 10 miles per day and adding one long run. For my first marathon I followed Hal Higdon's beginning marathon plan which took me from someone who ran 3 times per week 12-15 miles total to a peak week of 40 miles, followed by a taper and successfully completing my first marathon. Hal Higdon's beginner marathon plan was 4 days per week, no speed work and no specific paces, just some general advice to run a little bit faster on one of the shorter runs but run very slow and easy on the long runs. There was a gradual progression up to 20 miles about 4 weeks before the actual marathon. After running that 20 miles I had the confidence that I could complete the marathon. Confidence in knowing that you can do something is a huge plus of course.

So for Chicago, what do you recommend? I could go week to week with a goal of six runs and gradually increasing the mileage as time went by. I may be misinterpreting things, but I'm afraid if I follow that plan my longest run won't be very long. 14 weeks from now I would be running lots of 8, 9, and 10 mile runs but nothing close to the marathon distance. If I wasn't already signed up for the Chicago marathon I might not be so worried about not getting in any longer runs. No doubt I would be in great aerobic shape, but would I have adapted my body to the marathon distance?

I don't really care that much about the speed work. I'm just looking for a plan that will make the most of the time between now and Oct. 7 without injuring myself since hopefully Oct. 7 is just one of many marathons I'd like to run.

As always I do appreciate your review of my blog as well as all your other hard work in running this blog and sharing your expertise with others.

From Sasha Pachev on Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 12:58:25

Mark:

Lots of 10 miles runs is much better for the marathon than an occasional 20 mile run with the rest of the runs being in the 5 mile range. Of course, it would be nice if you could go a bit longer than 10 once a week, but if going long knocks you out so much that your weekly mileage drops, then you are going too long.

Any training is beneficial only to the extent that you are fit to do it and able to properly recover from. A guy who runs 4-5 miles a day, in my opinion, is not fit to run 20 miles once a week productively. He can of course finish the distance. If he were to make a bet, he could probably even run a full marathon once a week. But he would keep getting slower because the stress on his body would exceed his capability to recover.

I've tried training for a marathon in a number of different ways. What I found is that once my weekly mileage reaches a certain level, and I sustain it for a while, then I can handle a very long long run with no adverse effects, but I do not have to go longer than 20, or even 18 to be fit for the marathon, and be able to maintain a decent pace even when I am in the territory past the length of my longest run. On the other hand, when I tried to focus on the long run, I crashed terribly.

In addition to myself, I've also seen a similar pattern with other runners. The more anxious they get about running long in one run, the more likely they are to crash in the marathon. On the other hand, the guys with a more moderate approach in a long run, but with a sustained weekly mileage over 80 hold their ground just fine in the race, and recover much quicker afterwards.

I guess it is kind of like when you are dating and trying to impress a girl. If you try too hard, you make a fool of yourself. If you just act normally and try to be your decent self day after day, the right girl falls in love with you.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
5.501.000.000.000.000.000.006.50

Run over at David's house. Up and back down the Starkey Blvd bike path. Keith was there also. They had both just down July 4th 10 k's and were not up for anything too fast which was just fine with me. We went up the trail at about an 8:30 pace. The mile which included the turn around and chance to grab some water was 9:11. Picked things up slightly on the way back, then finally at the last 0.5 mile, Keith and I started going faster, picking up to a 6:30 pace.

No pain in foot on the way up, a little bit on the way back. It was strange that it started feeling better for the last 0.5 mile which helps confirm the Dr's diagnosis of it not being a stress fracture.

Overall pace was 8:20 which is pretty much where I wanted it to be. Weather was a little bit nicer with the heat and humidity combination being tolerable.

I felt good today afterwards because I have now had 3 good days in a row, all run outside.  I feel like I can get back on course for some good solid preparation as the marathon is starting to feel like it is coming up fast. 

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Did some swimming this morning but did not run.  Did some weights but not too heavy.  Foot feeling a lot better.  I think I should be up for my 12 mile run tomorrow.  Maybe try 5 runs next week.  At the very least I won't skip two days in a row.  Hopefully some of the Las Vegas heat will cool down a little by next Saturday when I want to do 14 miles.  Normal low for this time of year is supposedly 78 which I can handle.  A few degrees more might be ok.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
8.004.000.000.000.000.000.0012.00

12 mile run this morning. Most of it with David and Keith. Tried to get an early start but I was a couple minutes late, but still I think we got going about 6:20. It was already warm when we started. The usual high humidity and about 80° Stopped several times for water/gatorade. Picked things up for the last three miles with 7:17, 7:26 (slowed down for traffic light), and 6:56 for the final mile. After doing 15 last Saturday today's run felt much easier and I had a lot left over, except right after the last mile.

Average pace was 8:05

 

Pretty good week for running, although it was only four runs I stayed consistent.  My foot continues to get better. 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
7.200.000.000.000.000.000.007.20

7.2 easy miles.  Although, as usual, warm and humid.  I'm hoping that 80º and  humid is good preparation for running in Las Vegas where it will be low 80's before the sun comes up but very low humidity.  No pain at all in the top of my foot.   Ran by myself today, there seem to be fewer people running on a regular basis these days between vacation plans and the less than ideal running conditions.

 Good run for a Monday morning, only one day off running since Saturday.
 

 

Average pace: 8:11 

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Cross train day today.  Warm up on arc trainer (about 10 minutes) then 34 minutes on the rower.  I can remember when 20 minutes on the rower was difficult, now I just keep going.  Felt like I could have gone on a lot longer but today was not knock yourself out day :)

 A day off from the heat and humidity was also nice.

Based on what weather.com tells me, the heat humidity combo during the morning is equivalent to the higher heat / lower humidity combo of Las Vegas but I'll have to wait and find out for myself when I get there later this week.
 

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6.100.000.000.000.000.000.006.10

6.1 Miles , average 8:06 pace.  Felt cooler out at start of the run for some reason even though thermometer read the same at beginning and end of the run - 80º

 

No pain whatsoever in my left foot today, either on the top of it or the big toe so I think I may have turned this one into just a close call.

7 miles tomorrow morning then off to Las Vegas to see how I do in the heat.  My wife will be competing in the Women's Tri-Fitness competition, she has been training very hard for this.  Once finished with that she'll get back to running and training for the Disney half marathon in January which she'll run with her Mom and 3 sisters. 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
7.500.000.000.000.000.000.007.50

7.5 easy miles (about 8:14 pace).  Ran by myself at 5:30.   No one else had showed up, although I ran into some people about 3/4 through my run as they had started later in the morning.  They would have told me but thought I had left for vacation already :)

 Temp was warm (81 degrees) and humid as usual.  I think I'm getting used to these.
 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
8.006.000.000.000.000.000.0014.00

My first dry run :) This was one of my most challenging and rewarding runs. Everything felt different but it worked out fine. Running in Las Vegas! I woke up at 4:30 but fell back asleep until 4:52. Seeing how late it was I got moving quickly. I got into the car and drove out of town a little bit so I could run on the roads. I had spotted some roads that looked pretty good the day before. I was able to start my run at 5:30, already 86 degrees with the sun coming up. I took my water belt and carried a bottle in one hand.  The water belt has two 20 oz bottles which I usually don't take but instead put one 12 oz gatorade and one 16 oz water, but today used the two bigger bottles, one with water and one with Accelerade. 

The first 3 miles were very hard and I couldn't seem to go faster then 9:00. The first three miles were something like 9:50, 9:30, and 9:10.  But I figured that didn't matter. Eventually I was doing 8:30 miles. Once I got just past 7 miles I turned around. At that point the run got a lot easier. I realized I had been going up a slight incline the whole way. The run back was much easier due to running down a decline and carrying less and less weight.  I was doing miles between 7:35 and 7:40 the return trip with what seemed to be less effort on the way out. Final average was 8:13 pace.  1:02 to where I turned around at 7.1 miles, finish time at 14 miles was 1:54.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
6.201.001.000.000.000.000.008.20

Another run in Las Vegas.  Started out at 5:30 but this time just decided to run starting from near the hotel.  We were at a different hotel than on Saturday, so the night before I looked over some maps to pick out a route.  Unfortunately, it turned out that part of my planned route was through a private neighborhood and apparently they don't make exceptions for runners.  So, I just went around it, which was probably just as well as I was able to see more things.  The only drawback was that it meant running on more sidewalks.  It seemed a little cooler out than on Saturday but not a whole lot.  Started out slow and gradually picked things up.  By 5.5 miles, I had averaged 8:30 pace.  I wanted 8:24 so I figured I would pick things up some more -  I was planning on running 7 miles.  I seemed to get a little bit lost and ended up doing an extra 1.2 miles.  The last two miles were at 7:05 and 6:52, and about 8:00 for the last .2, followed by some walking around the parking lot to stretch things out.

This is my new longest Monday run, and second longest run while on vacation. 

Average pace: 8:09 

Comments
From Sasha Pachev on Mon, Jul 16, 2007 at 11:46:19

While you're there, you could probable hook up with rdrunner.

From Mark on Mon, Jul 16, 2007 at 21:17:41

Sasha,

Thanks and good idea, I'll post a comment at his blog to see if we can hook up or if he has suggestions for a good route.

From rdrunner on Mon, Jul 16, 2007 at 23:22:12

I live about 10-15 miles from the Hilton and I don't know that area really well....so no running route suggestions. If you would like to run with us on one of these mornings and have transportation to get to where we live my wife and I would love to have some company. We start at 5:00 am every day right in front of our house and our runs are all on pavement. Depending on the day, we run for about an hour. Call me if you want to hook up 702-240-6411, please call by 9:00 pm or earlier cause I am sawing logs after that.

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6.101.000.000.000.000.000.007.10

Pretty much an easy run day. Ran from hotel down to UNLV, a little bit on the grounds there, and then back up.  Heat wasn't too bad.  Picked up a little bit for the last mile and ended up with an average pace of 8:20.

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No running today.  But I did hike 2.2 miles on the Bright Angel trail in the Grand Canyon (1.1 down and then back up) with 3 other adults and 5 kids ranging from 5 - 12.  It all worked out surprisingly well with very little complaining.  Of course the scenery was wonderful and everyone seemed to like going back up better than going down.

Comments
From rdrunner on Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 11:01:45

Mark - Here is my work number you can reach me at as well 364-3182 (work until 5:00). I am scheduled to do 10 miles on Friday with 8 at marathon pace (7:20-7:30/mile) so I won't be running with my wife other than the first mile. Based on your goals it looks like your marathon pace is about the same as mine. We will be looking to start right about 5:00 since I have to leave for work at 7:15. Sounds like you had a nice hike in the Grand Canyon. I look forward to hearing from you.

From Mark on Sun, Jul 22, 2007 at 15:05:12

I'm sorry I wasn't able to get a chance to run with you. We had a change of plans and left early to go to Death Valley and Red Rock Canyon. I very much appreciate the offer to run with you, as running with someone else is much better than running alone in unfamiliar area. Good luck with your training, I think your goals are within reach and you are on the right track. Take care and good luck!

From rdrunner on Sun, Jul 22, 2007 at 23:09:34

Not a problem. My Friday run didn't work out as planned anyway as you can see from my blog. Let me know if you make it to town again and we can hook up.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
6.200.001.000.000.000.000.007.20

Another morning run in Las Vegas.  Ran down through convention center and into Howard Hughes Pkwy which has no traffic in the morning and lots of shade trees.  Felt very sluggish at first but gradually warmed up.  Last mile at 6:59.  Average for run was 8:05.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
11.004.001.000.000.000.000.0016.00

Well, this really should go with last week's training. Due to traveling was not able to do my Saturday run until Sunday.   This is going to make my mileage for this week look pretty big for me. 

I was pleasantly surprised to see the temp at only 73º when I started my run this morning just before 7:00. I ran alone at Starkey park, going out to the end of the bike trail and up the Suncoast pkwy trail for about 1.5 miles. Did a good job of taking it easy on the way out. Ran faster on the way back with the last mile at 7:06. With 3 miles left to go it started to sprinkle which felt good to run through and kept the temperature from going above 75º. It could have been a miserable run but turned into a pretty good one.  I noticed that there were two extra water stops that weren't there before.  I refilled my water bottle a little bit two different times to make sure I didn't run out.

Average pace: 8:02

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
0.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.00

Did some cross training today.  Recovering from yesterday's run.  12 minutes on arc trainer, 20 minutes on the bike, and about 30 minutes of upper body weights.   Calves felt a little bit tight but not terrible.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
6.002.000.000.000.000.000.008.00

Another nice day for running, 74º and very reasonable humidity.  Before leaving for my vacation mornings were warm and humid, then I had a week of running hot and dry, now it is much nicer and very much appreciated.  No one ran with me this morning, the regulars seemed to have dropped off a bit right now.  

Ran at the neighborhoods near the Y.  Started out slow, felt all recovered from Sunday's run but thought taking it easy would be wise.  First mile at 9:14, picked up a little bit faster each mile with  the last two miles at 7:32 and 7:16.  Ran the last .2 miles with the high school cross country coach who was leading his pack back in.

8 miles at 8:08 pace. 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
3.005.000.000.000.000.000.008.00

This morning's run was kind of interesting.  I wasn't expecting to run with anyone and got a little bit later of a start.  Just past 6:30 I was at the Y, I saw my friend Jenny who was talking to another lady named Anne Marie.  Anne Marie asked if I wanted to run "with these guys" - who were the high school cross country team, they were all doing 10 miles, but there was another guy there who was not on the team but ran with them who was only doing 8 that day.  So, I went along with them.   Started out with an easy 8:38 pace for the first mile, followed by 8:08, gradually picking things up.  On the way back got caught at a really long traffic light, maybe about 45 seconds or so.  Weather was pretty good again at about 74° and pretty reasonable humidity for Florida.

I was invited back for speed work on Mon and Fri but I think that would be asking for it :) 

Average pace: 7:49 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
6.002.000.000.000.000.000.008.00

Another 8 miles this morning.  Alone.  8 miles is starting to feel easy which is a good sign.  Started out at 8:50 pace, then just kept on running without trying to increase pace but it seemed to go up slowly by itself 8:11 -> 8:09 -> 8:07, last two at 7:32 and 7:26.

 Temperature has gone back up but still not too bad, 76° and a somewhat stick 75% humidity.

A bunch of people will be running on Saturday so I will do 10 miles with them at 6:00 am.

Overall average pace: 8:02 

Comments
From Sasha Pachev on Fri, Jul 27, 2007 at 13:34:46

Good training the last few weeks. At this point, I think, it would be helpful to test your fitness in a race. Anything from a 5 K to the half-marathon would be good. The only concern is that the race should be sufficiently respectable to have either a certified course, or at least have the course reliably measured.

From Mark on Mon, Jul 30, 2007 at 10:07:18

Sasha,

Thanks for the encouragement, always good to know when my training is on the right track. I'd love to run a 10K now but there just don't seem to be any in Florida right now but there are some 5K's so I'll do one of those soon. I was hoping to see if I could run a 10K in a pace that my 5K pace projects I should be able to run.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
8.002.000.000.000.000.000.0010.00

10 mile run with David, Dixie, and Randall.   Hadn't seen Dixie for a while, so it was good to run with him again.  We met up at 6:00 at the Y, waited a few minutes for Joe (who couldn't make it but I didn't check my email), got moving at about 6:10.  Pretty easy pace most of the way, stopped a few times for water.  I do enjoy running with other people but the stops always seem to take longer.  Had a couple of faster miles at the end at about marathon pace.

Weather was pretty decent with not too much sun, a reasonable 75° and average humidity.

Overall pace was 8:22

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
5.002.200.000.000.000.000.007.20

Woke up not feeling much like going on a run, but that's ok because there are days like that.  I got moving and was able to start my run just after 6:30.  Ran alone this morning with a 12 oz bottle of gatorade for company.  Started out with a couple of slow miles, built up a little bit faster and ended with the last 2.2 miles at about marathon pace.  Felt like going a lot faster for the last mile but held back a little bit as this wasn't supposed to be a fast day.

Average pace: 7:59 

Weather getting back to normal, 80° and 68% humidity.

 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
2.003.001.400.000.000.000.006.40

I thought today would be an easy run, but it was just David and I and he was up for something a little bit faster so I went along.  It rained very early this morning but didn't cool down much so the run was warm (80°) and sticky (86 % humidity).  First mile at 8:19, then kept on increasing the pace.  Garmin said that 6th mile was at 5:52, but that is highly suspect as the mile before was 7:15 and the last .4 was at 6:53 so I'm guessing around 7:00 give or take 5 seconds - also I have never run a mile that fast, although maybe I could?  I need to try out it out sometime.  This course usually measures between 6.2 and 6.3 depending on which direction we go on the loop.  The Garmin also said 7:21/mile average pace, so that means it was probably more like 7:30 ish.  These are great tools to train with but aren't always perfect.

Comments
From rdrunner on Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 11:15:45

I know what you mean about the Garmin. My wife and I both use the same model and when we run together they are never at the same distance. But much better than going out and clocking courses in the car.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
3.000.004.000.000.000.000.007.00

It seems that starting a little bit later, when it is just starting to get light, rather than when it is still dark is more comfortable since that's when the breeze starts up. So, that's what I did this morning. It was raining before I woke up but it was cooler this morning with a few light sprinkles at the start of the run.

Started out with two easy miles, than ran 4 miles just under 7:07 (ranging between 7:00 and 7:06) and the final mile at an easy 8:20. I hadn't done a run like this for a while, it wasn't easy but it felt comfortably hard with no aches or pains, just a desire to quit most of the way, until the last 1/2 mile of the hard 4 miles where I suddenly felt stronger and wanted to go farther at that speed, but that was enough for today.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
5.001.500.000.000.000.000.006.50

"Easy" is a relative term I suppose.  This morning's run wasn't physically demanding but it was challenging due to the rain.  It was more than just a light sprinkle, but varied between moderate and heavy, except for one very short time when it let up and came close to stopping.   Dixie, Keith, David and I left from his house this morning at about 5:50 and ran out his neighborhood and up Starkey Blvd.   I didn't give my Garmin a chance to lock in its signal so the distance ended up being off.   This route is pretty well measured and always comes out to 6.5, but today it said 6.33.   The rain made it darker and there were some pretty significant puddles which you couldn't see until you stepped in them and totally soaked your foot.

At the turn around point things felt better, last mile and a half picked up to about a 7:30 pace.  Garmin distance was 6.33 with an 8:32 pace.  If 6.5 is really correct then it would be about an 8:20 pace.  

Enjoyed some coffee and bagels on David's porch along with Karen, Regina, and Barbara.  Despite any perceived complaining I might be guilty of here, overall it was a good run and one to remember. 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
14.104.000.000.000.000.000.0018.10

Today was one of my longest runs since December. It went pretty well overall. I was running a little bit later than planned, arriving at the trail parking lot at about 6:15 instead of the planned 6:00. It was already about 76° but it felt somewhat cool. I saw Eudair in the parking lot as she was getting ready to go for a bike ride. She had thought about running but is still going through some PT and decided to not do the long run with me today. The first four miles were at an easy pace but felt difficult, just took me a little while to get going. Those miles were between 8:35 and 8:53. I was wearing the water belt with two 20 oz bottles which is part of the problem, doesn't feel bad after a while but does feel heavy at first.

After that I started to get my legs. I was heading up the Suncoast pkwy trail, went a little past the entrance the Starkey park bike trail then turned back and got on that trail. At about mile 9 I was feeling good. Mile 10 was my second fastest mile for the day. Started to feel hot out just after passing mile 11 but I kept on moving. Eudair past by me a couple of times throwing out some words of encouragement. There were mainly cyclists on the trails with a few individual runners like myself and a few groups. Mile 14 felt encouraging as there was only 4 miles left. As I was finishing mile 17 I thought I would back it down a little bit for the last mile. Just then Eudair showed up to run the last mile. We ran in at a 7:32 pace which was the fastest mile for the run. I then drank lots of water, walked around a bit and stretched. The temp was 86°, humidity not too terrible at 64%

Overall pace: 8:05/mile

Comments
From Amy on Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 04:34:09

Hey Mark!

I like your blog, factual and informative. I am in awe of your running ability! Keep up the great work!

From Mark on Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 10:38:40

Thanks Amy!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
5.103.000.000.000.000.000.008.10

A pretty good run this morning. Didn't get running until just before 7:00. The start of the run was warmer than Saturday morning's start but the end was probably not quite as hot. I took a tip from something I had read recently and made sure to do a route that I don't usually do. I didn't cross over Mitchell Road but instead stayed on the side by the Y. First mile was pretty slow at 9:29, second mile was not too bad at 8:35. I don't remember what the next few miles were but somewhere between 8:00 and 8:15. Last three miles were at 7:39, 7:38, and 7:17. Jogged for another .1 and then went inside for some cool down on the treadmill for about 6 more minutes.

Average pace: 8:05

My plan for today was to take it easy until I felt like going faster but not push too hard, so that is pretty much what I did.  I was satisfied with today's run especially after running 18 on Saturday.  I felt like I was recovered from that run, if I had not been then maybe I had pushed too hard on Saturday.  Fortunately it looks like I did not push too hard.  I have 20 miles  coming up this Saturday which I'm going to try and stick to an 8:15 pace

Temp was 80° at the start with 71% humidity.

I'm not sure how many miles I have put on the two pairs of running shoes but it is probably starting to get up there. So, once I get a new pair I'm going to start keeping track of how many miles I have put on them. I'd hate to start having painful runs because I forgot to get new shoes!

Comments
From Jenny on Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 12:09:05

It was some nasty humidity out there today. Felt worse this morning than usual for some reason. I bet you are just going to be sweaty for the whole day now!

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0.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.00

No running today.  Just 30 minutes on the arc trainer.  I might do a short run on Friday in addition to longer runs tomorrow and Thursday as well as the long run on Saturday.  If I do that then I can get one mile more than last week which was my longest week so far - not counting the week where I did 50 because I did my previous weeks long run a day late.

I did see some of my running friends as I was heading into the Y.  They sure looked hot and sweaty! 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
7.000.001.000.000.000.000.008.00

This morning's run was not the best run ever.  At one point it almost seemed like it was going to be a disaster, but fortunately it ended up as a run that was not that bad.   My upper back had a small knot in it which partially restricted my breathing.  I'm not sure where the knot came from.  Temp was 80° with about 75% humidity.  At first it did not feel too bad.

I warmed up a little bit inside at first then started my run.  Did 2 miles at a slow pace (9:15ish) - (my ankles felt tight, not painful, just tight) then picked up a little bit for 0.5 miles, then planned on doing 3 X 1 mile repeats at 6:32 pace.  I held the pace at first but then had trouble holding on.  It was slipping away from me and I slowed down to 6:50 at one point, got a little back towards the end and finished with 6:46 but it took a lot out of me.  At that point I really felt like scrapping the whole run or at least heading back inside and finishing on the treadmill.  However, after I slowed down a bit I kept on going and bargained with myself to at least do 7 miles.  Things got a little bit better although I did take a couple short walk breaks.  When I got to 7 miles I went past the parking lot by 0.5 miles, turned around and came back to finish 8 miles. 

At the end of my run all of my minor aches and tight muscles had gotten worked out.  I didn't make my goals for mile intervals but at least I put in the miles.  Sometimes, the first mile can be difficult, then the other ones get better, so I wondered if I had at least tried the second mile repeat what would have happened.

 Average pace: 8:23
 

Comments
From Amy on Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 13:54:59

I think those harder runs where you push through and end up bargaining with yourself are the ones where you really improve your running, even if they feel terrible at the time. I guess we all have those days.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
4.251.000.003.000.000.000.008.25

Today turned out pretty good.  I showed up at the Y about 5:30, but not sure when other people were running.  None of my usual running friends were there so after warming up and stretching for a little bit I got moving.   I thought I would do about 8 miles and maybe throw in some tempo in the middle of it.  As I was into my first mile I saw Dixie drive by so I headed back to the Y.  Keith and he were going to go to the track and do 3 X 1600 at a 6:30 - 6:40 pace.   I told them about how poorly I had done at yesterday's attempt and decided for a "rematch".   It certainly is a lot easier when you run with other people.  I warmed up some more with Keith and Dixie and then we got over to the track.  The first 1600 felt hard but doable.  The second one was maybe a little bit easier than the first one and was a little bit faster.  The third one was not too bad and came in right around the pace of the first one.  Dixie took the lead for each one so I just followed behind him, he was in front until the last 1600 where he faded a bit, fell behind and came in about 10 seconds after Keith and I - not bad at all since he had recently taken some time off from running.

After the third one I felt like I could have done one more if I had to which made me feel really good.  Much better than yesterday.  Plan for the rest of the week is a few slow miles tomorrow and then 20 on Saturday.  If I do this then I'll have a few more miles than last week. 

Splits were 6:32, 6:25, and 6:30 

After the 1600's I did almost another 3 miles.

Temp was about the same as yesterday, 80° with 80% humidity.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
3.000.000.000.000.000.000.003.00

Easy run today of just 3 miles.   I did 45 last week and didn't want to jump up too far this week.  I ran outside although I had strongly considered running inside due to the humidity of about 85% and 80º temp.  But fortunately I wasn't planning on going too far and some reason the stickiness didn't really bother me.

I started out with a warm up inside of 10 minutes on a stationary bike along with some stretching.  Did my run in 24:25, came back inside for another 7 minutes on the bike for a cool down followed by about 20 minutes of not too strenuous weights and some ab work.

I did not bring my Garmin today, otherwise I would have constantly been looking at the pace.  I need to do this more often as there are a good number of well known routes with known mileage. 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
18.001.001.000.000.000.000.0020.00

Today's run was pretty good overall. Not everything went exactly as planned but it all seemed to work out somehow. I was going to get to the park gate a little bit early and then run 2 miles, then run 13 with Keith and Dixie, then do 5 miles on my own. When I got to the gate it was pretty clearly marked for no parking. So, I ended up waiting there until just before 6:00, then Keith showed up and then Dixie. But the gate was not unlocked yet. Just after 6:00 the park worker showed up, unlocked the gate and then locked it behind him. He came back about 15 minutes later and then unlocked the gate. So, we went in and got ready for our run. Keith and Dixie were planning on 13 but I talked them into 14. The morning was a typical Florida August morning with 81° temp and 87% humidity. I also realized today that I had been writing down the wrong humidity for my notes. I had been looking at the humidity at the time I wrote my blog instead of when I ran. I realized today that the humidity rapidly drops each morning when the sun comes up. Probably a fact that was obvious to everyone else.

We took off running at an easy pace of 8:45 for the first mile. There were several nasty flies buzzing around us for the second mile. Their bites can be pretty nasty so we seemed to pick up the pace a little bit. The outside part of my shins felt tight which often happens to me on a training run. It's not painful, just bothersome and uncomfortable. After just over 4 miles the started feeling better. At seven miles we turned around to head back. The weather was decent at that point with the sun still low and the humidity down slightly. All of the water stops were filled full with very chilly water. We stopped a lot for refills. I did not bring my water belt but just carried a 16 oz bottle of water. The good part was I didn't have the water belt, the bad part was I had to carry a bottle of water for 14 miles.

At 11 miles we ran into Eudair who was just heading out. We talked her into running back with us. Keith started to get some calf cramps so he slowed down a bit and Dixie stayed with him. At one point Eudair and I had picked things up and we did mile 12 at 7:08 pace, next mile was 7:44. We got back to the parking lot where we stopped for a short time and I finished off my Accelerade. Then we headed back to the trail for the last 6 miles. It was getting hotter and hotter with the sun up higher now. Finally, at 3 miles we turned around and headed back. The heat was pretty bad at this point but we kept going, and kept about an 8:15 pace. Then finally it was over. My second ever 20 mile run.

The average pace was 8:24. I would have liked 8:19 but considering the conditions I was pretty happy with the pace.

It was extremely fortunate that Keith and Dixie ran with me for most of the first 14 miles, and also very lucky that we ran into Eudair. For the last 6 miles I was going to listen to my ipod shuffle but it decided to die on me.

Comments
From Jenny on Sun, Aug 12, 2007 at 06:06:35

Glad you had a good run! I am reading your blog before I head out for mine!

From Amy on Mon, Aug 13, 2007 at 06:07:25

Mark I am in awe of you!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
5.005.400.000.000.000.000.0010.40

I didn't get a very early start this morning, woke up about 6:15, got out of the house, warmed up and stretched and actually started my run just after 7:00. As predicted today was a few degrees cooler, just 76° , humidity about 75%. Felt much cooler than any runs recently.

Today's run was supposed to be just an easy run. The first 3 miles were difficult and it felt hard to get into a rhythm. They were about an 8:50 pace. 4th mile was 8:07. 5th mile was 8:44 but part of that was to slow down and walk while I had a gel pack and water. After that I started feeling much better, with the miles gradually getting faster and faster. Before I knew it the 10 miles were finished, I was not quite at the parking lot so it ended up being an extra 0.4 miles onto the planned run.

Average pace: 7:58

Except for the start, the run was one of my best in recent weeks. I was especially pleased that this was after doing 20 miles with just one day off from running. The last time I did 20 miles, I took two days off, then just did 5 miles with some residual soreness left over. Looks like I did not overdo it this time. The miles are building up now so I'm going to try and concentrate on being injury free. If I can do that I think I'm almost certain to get a PR in Chicago and maybe have an outside shot at a BQ, but I'll have to see how the next few weeks progress.

Also, almost forgot:

Glycerin: 10.4

(new pair of shoes today)

Comments
From wildbull on Mon, Aug 13, 2007 at 10:56:46

which marathon are you going to BQ at? If it is St.George they might have pace teams to help you. if you can run ten miles at 7:58 pace you should quaify. What age div are you in.

From Mark on Mon, Aug 13, 2007 at 21:50:18

My next marathon is going to be Chicago. St. George sounds like a good one to do sometime. They have pace groups in Chicago, but they are going to be the next corral up from my start - but I've seriously been thinking about trying to hook up with them and try and hang on with them. I'm in 40-44 age group.

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Cross training day.  30 minutes on bike, followed by weights, stretching, pull-ups and some ab work.

Next 4 days running, get some good quality runs for a total of 48 miles this week.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
7.902.000.000.000.000.000.009.90

My alarm was set for 5:00, I woke up at 4:30, fell back asleep and dreamed that I overslept until 7:50.   So, when the alarm did go off at 5:00 I was happy that I did not oversleep - good to start the day on a positive note. 

Dixie was up for a run this morning and we were both up for a change of scenery, so instead of starting out from the Trinity Y we started out at the Lansbrook Y.   Weather was back to normal for this time of year which is about 80° and 90% humidity.  First 2 and a half miles felt sluggish.  Stopped for water at the lake park then got going again, felt a lot better at that point.  Hit a couple of miles right at marathon pace then we were soon at the high school where they have some water fountains outside with nice chilled water. 

Return trip was about an 8:10 pace.  We had made some wrong turns along the way so the planned 9 mile run turned into 9.9 miles.

Overall it was a good run.  Average pace 8:11

When I got home I jumped in the pool for about 10 minutes to help stretch out. 

(Glycerin: 20.3) 

Comments
From wildbull on Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 10:13:52

good run. How do you like those Gycerins?

From Mark on Thu, Aug 16, 2007 at 09:56:46

Thanks!

I like the Glycerins a lot. I had a pair of Glycerin 4 which I replaced with Glycerin 5. Those just wore out (probably not totally worn out but have 500 miles on them) so I replaced them with a new pair of Glycerin 5's. I've thought about trying other shoes but I'm pretty happy with these. I have a pair of Asics Gel Equation which I got for free at a race and use those for shorter runs, they are pretty good too especially for free shoes!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
3.000.006.200.000.000.000.009.20

Tempo run today!

I was a little bit worried about it. I haven't done very many tempo runs, last one I did was two weeks ago when I tempo'd for 4 miles. That time, the first three and a half miles were miserable, with only the last 0.5 feeling good.

The weather was fairly decent this morning at 78° and 84% humidity. I spent a good amount of time warming up and doing some stretching, then headed outside. My goal was to do 5 or 6 miles at between 7:00 and 7:10 pace. I ran 1.8 miles as a warm up at about a 9:00 pace, then took a powerbar gel and stashed my accelarade and got going. To my surprise the first mile was not miserable, probably due to having done a good warm up. I was running at a pace which felt about 7:00 (turned out to be 6:59). I kept going with about the same effort with slightly faster times (6:57 and 6:58). At the start of the 4th mile I still felt pretty good thinking if all I did was this then it would be pretty good run - that mile was 6:54. Kept going and hit the 5th mile at 6:56. Now just one mile left. At this point I was feeling pretty pleased with my times. I sped up a little bit towards the end and decided to go an extra 0.2 miles and call it a 10K practice run - last mile at 6:47 and final 0.2 at 1:22.

Then I slowed down, grabbed my accelerade which I drank along the way and jogged back to the parking lot, another 1.2 miles for a total of 9.2 miles.

Some days my runs go better than other days, today was a better day.

Average pace of 7:37

 A bit late for this but I might as well start (based on a guess):

Asics Gel 300

Comments
From Jenny on Thu, Aug 16, 2007 at 20:43:41

You forgot to do your Glycerin mile count for today!!

From Sasha Pachev on Thu, Aug 16, 2007 at 21:59:59

I think you are ready to run 3:10-3:15 in the marathon right now. When is your next long race (10 miles or longer)?

From Amy on Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 07:54:19

Mark, you jam!

From Mark on Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 12:14:20

Sasha,

Your comment was a real morale booster.

Unfortunately there aren't any races that I can find around here (or anywhere in Florida). A 10 mile or half marathon would be great to help determine a realistic pace for the marathon. I hadn't even considered a 3:10-3:15 goal since I have been fixated at 3:20. But I really should figure out the fastest pace than I could realistically run somehow before Oct. 7.

Amy, Jenny,

thanks for reading my blog and the encouragement!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
2.000.000.000.000.000.000.002.00

A very light day today.

Warmed up on the arc trainer for about 10 minutes. Did some light lower body work and ab work then ran 2 easy miles on the treadmill at about 9:00 pace. It seems like forever since I've been on the treadmill.  Yesterday afternoon, seemingly out of nowhere my left knee was a bit sore when I walked.  It felt better this morning (didn't bother me at all while running) but I'm keeping an eye on it. 

I started kind of late since I slept in until 6:30 (I remember when that used to be early).

With tomorrow's 16 mile run I'll be right where I want for mileage this week.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
7.009.000.000.000.000.000.0016.00

I woke up at 6:00 this morning. However, the night before I did not have everything all set out and ready to go so I was fumbling around for a while getting everything I needed together. I got out of the house a 5 or 6 minutes after 6:30. Up until when I left home I had not made up my mind about where to run, I finally chose John Chestnut park/Lansbrook over Starkey Park. Starkey has a great path with lots of water stops but also has some nasty deer flies (they do make you run faster though). Keith and Dixie were going to San Antonio (FL) to do some hills (there aren't many places around here to do them), and I didn't get in touch with David to see when he was running so I was running alone today.

The weather was pretty good with 77° temp and 84% humidity to start.

It was almost 7:00 when I got to the parking lot. Little bit of warm up and stretching and then started at 7:03.  Today, I borrowed my wife's water belt which holds 2 10 oz bottles instead of mine which holds 2 20 oz bottles.  Her's felt lighter and more comfortable, hardly felt like I was wearing it.

Took the first mile really easy at 9:22 (I was worried about my knee although it felt ok this morning). Next mile at 8:29, then 8:24. Stopped at Lake park at 3.4 miles, had a power bar gel and some water. Now I felt warmed up. Next mile at 8:02. Pace naturally picked up - 7:49, 7:35, 7:44, 7:38 .... and on it went. Made 2 more stops, once at east lake hs on the way up and then on the way back again.

Now it was starting to get warm and the last few miles were a little bit harder.

Last full mile was 7:33 and final 0.6 miles at 7:25.

Overall pace (mostly not counting breaks): 7:53

Except for the end, if I saw my pace was 7:45 or 7:50 I resisted the temptation to speed up to hit "marathon pace" and just kept going trying to hold a steady pace.

No knee problems today!!

Glycerin: 36.3

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
6.003.000.000.000.000.000.009.00

Dixie offered to run with me again today.  We met up just after 6:00 for a 9 mile run.   Temp was 81°, humidity was 84%.  We started out slow with 9:22 for the first mile, gradually speeding up to 8:15 for the third mile.   We ran from the 7-eleven, up the east lake trail, looped around the high school, with a short water stop there.  Came back through some neighborhoods to the lake park in Lansbrook where I refilled my water bottle.    As it got lighter, the humidity dropped a little bit and a small breeze picked up, although the temp went up slightly it felt a little more pleasant at the end than at the start.    Finished strong with the last mile at 7:35.

Average pace: 8:05

Asics Gel - 309

This is going to be a cut back week for me, which mainly means I won't be doing a long run this weekend, want to get 40 miles this week, then next several weeks will climb up in mileage from these past few weeks with my first venture into to 50+ mile range. 

 

Also, for the past few weeks, since I've cut back a lot on weights I had been doing pull-ups at home.  Jenny read something in a magazine about a technique called "greasing the groove".   You start out figuring out what your max number of (whatever you are trying to do, in this case pull-ups).   Then for four weeks, mon-fri you do three sets per day, you do the sets at least one hour apart.  Mon you do 70% of max, tue 80%, wed 90 %, thu 70% and fri 80%.  The article said you could improve 20% in 4 weeks.  I started out at 20 pull-ups for my max.  This morning I did 30!   Jenny also did this but with push-ups and pull-ups.  Her push-ups went from 40 to 50 and pull-ups from 4 to 5!   Looks like this really works.

It seems similar to running in that if you run consistently at a slower pace than what you are capable of, after a while, one day you go to a race and can all of the sudden run a lot faster.

Jenny has started a blog also which is at :

http://www.jennyruns.blogspot.com

She has started running more now that her obstacle course competition has finished, with a 10K time of 54:53 back in March (a PR).  She's training for the Disney half marathon in January.
 

Comments
From Jenny on Mon, Aug 20, 2007 at 10:27:12

Aww, thanks for the plug! Can't wait to see you do 40 pull ups next month!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
0.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.00

Non-running day today.   But, not a day off from exercise.   Got to the gym about 6:45 but ran into a couple of my running friends, stopped and talked for a few minutes.   Did the rowing machine for 10 minutes, the bike for 25 minutes, then did about 20 minutes of lower body weights and some ab work.  I've found that the ab work is very important for me when I am running.  Back in December I kept on blowing it off and ended up having problems which resulted in the need for about 10 sessions of physical therapy.  Don't want to do that again.

Looking forward to the rest of the week of running. 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
6.003.050.000.000.000.000.009.05

..second try at this, first one was lost, couldn't seem to find it in the browser cache, oh well that is the first time I've done that.

 

Met up with Dixie at the  Y this morning at 6:00.  Weather was nice with 77° temp and decent humidity.  Started out at 8:45 pace for the first mile and gradually picked up to about an 8:00 pace by the time we got to 4.7 miles where the water was stashed.  Got going again and did the next few miles at marathon pace.  At about 8 miles we spotted one of the cross country team members who had slowed down a bit.  Dixie yelled at him (in a nice way) to start running again and follow us back, which he did.   As we neared the end of the run I saw that the pace was at 8:00 exactly for the run so I picked up a little bit faster until it clicked over to 7:59.

Did some strides in the grass afterwards - I've never done those before so I just followed along with Dixie.

Glycerin : 45.35

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
8.131.000.000.000.000.000.009.13

Easy run today at a reasonable pace. Started out with a few slow miles between 8:36 and 8:50. Had one mile in the middle that was a 7:36 pace, and the rest were between 8:05 and 8:15.

Ran with Dixie. We met up at 6:00 at the 7-eleven, got moving finally about 6:15. We ran up to the lake park, then just past it a little bit and reversed the route back.  We did not ran through the high school campus as school has started now, although it was probably still early it might have been ok.

We were making a conscious effort to stay at a comfortable pace which we manged to do pretty well.

Weather could not have been better, start temp was 75° 

Average pace: 8:15

Asics Gel - 318

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
4.200.000.000.000.000.000.004.20

Easy day run. Ran without the Garmin at a relaxed pace. Calculated how far I went later, turned out to be 4.2 miles in 35:46, or about 8:30 pace.

Slept in late until 6:30. Went to the Y, warmed up inside, then did my run. Back inside, stretched out and did about 20 minutes of weights, some lower body and some upper body. Came home and did a set up 20 pull-ups to hold onto my recent gains.

 

Glycerin - 49.55 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
7.003.150.000.000.000.000.0010.15

 

 Short run for a Saturday but not too short.  Just a little bit over 10 miles at a reasonable pace.  Met up with Joe and Randall at the Y.  We did the horse farm route with a loop through the Grey Oaks neighborhood.   First few miles were kind of slow.  After the turnaround at the horse farm there is a slight downhill where we picked things up a bit faster and kept the momentum for a good part of the way back.   Weather was great and it was nice to run with others.  Hadn't run with Joe for a while - he's the one that got me started running with this group.

At the end of the run I felt like I had a lot left over and that I could have run another 10 miles if I needed to which is good since next Saturday I am going to do just that.

Average pace: 8:05

 

Glycerin - 59.7

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
9.000.000.000.000.000.000.009.00

9 miles at an easy pace this morning. Met up with Dixie a little after 6:00 and ran through the Lansbrook neighborhood. I had my new water belt today which I bought yesterday - it's just like the one that I had been borrowing from my wife. I hardly notice wearing it. Dixie had a lot to talk about this morning so we talked the entire run which seemed to make the run go by pretty fast even though we were at a slower pace than usual. I also let the timer run through the water stops. With the slower pace and stops the average pace came out to 8:49. I think the fastest we got up to was about an 8:00 pace. This isn't too bad considering I'm going to be going up in miles this week for my first ever 50 mile week.

Weather was good at about 77°, I'm hoping it holds out and we don't go back to 80° starts.

 

Asics  Gel - 327

Comments
From Amy on Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 12:38:41

Wow, 50 miles in one week! Hope it goes well for you!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
1.100.000.000.000.000.000.001.10

Today was a cross-training day.  I did the stationary bike for 25 minutes and some lower body weights, stretching and ab work.  I ended up on the treadmill to stretch my legs with some fast walking which quickly turned into a jog, then a run, then back to a jog.  I got off before this turned into a running day.

Comments
From Amy on Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 13:45:14

Thank goodness you bailed out in time!

From Jenny on Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 12:34:21

Oh, you almost fooled yourself into running!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
3.202.005.000.000.000.000.0010.20

Today was another tempo run. The goal was a bit more ambitious than my last tempo run. I wanted to do 8 miles at a 7:10 pace. I had some doubts as to whether I should do this or not as my right knee has been a little bit bothersome recently. When things are bothersome they either get better or it turns into a pain of some sort. I'm trying to stay away from the pain route. So, I figured I would run until there was any hint of a problem.

Warmed up inside on the arc trainer for a bit then headed outside. Ran about 1.6 miles at an easy pace, took a power bar gel then started off on the tempo.

First mile felt good and came in right around 7:00, miles 2 and 3 were also pretty good. I ran past the cross country team and said hi to the coach. At the end of Wyndtree I turned around and then ran past one of my running friends and said hi to her. Mile 4 was harder. It felt like I was putting out the same effort but my pace was slowing. I picked things up and finished that mile at 7:10. Now I thought about my knee, it still wasn't hurting which was good. I also thought that running just over 28 minutes at a tempo pace counts for something and it might be a good idea to come out ahead and slow down before my knee hurt at all. So, mile 5 was not run at a tempo pace but more of a regular pace (I'll have to check later what it was). I drank some accelerade which probably helped - I was carrying my new water belt which might be part of the reason for the need for extra effort in today's run. For mile 6 my pace had naturally picked back up to about a 7:30 pace. By mile 7, I was feeling good again and finished that mile at about 7:00.

I slowed down then as there was just a little over a mile left to get in 10 miles which was my goal for total mileage for today. Backed down to about an 8:00 pace. There was one road to cross with a traffic light which was green for me if I hurried, so I picked up the pace to make the light. Momentum carried me back to close to the parking lot, finally slowed down with a little bit left to go for a cool down.

The one big boost about today's run is that the average pace for the 10.2 miles was 7:34.

I had to keep moving as I had a dentist appointment which I could just barely make if I took a very quick shower.

Gycerin - 69.7 

Comments
From Lybi on Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 12:23:32

Wow, that was a good run. You seem to be on track for qualifying for Boston, you speed demon.

Hope the dentist goes easy on you...

From Jenny on Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 12:36:42

You've been so speedy today, that the dentist called and said you left there without paying your co-pay!! I guess it was a tempo cleaning...

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
8.370.000.000.000.000.000.008.37

Today's run felt refreshingly good for some reason. It wasn't my fastest or longest run. There wasn't too much remarkable about it which is possibly what made it feel good. I had run into one of my running friends yesterday who said he would probably be running this morning at 5:30. However, last night I made the decision to sleep in an extra 45 minutes since it was just a "probably" for the others.

I showed up at 6:30 and 3 of my running friends had just finished their run, oh well. I didn't have high hopes for my run today, just finish 8 miles at a reasonable pace. I set out and right away I noticed that my legs felt "fresh" which I was not expecting since I ran hard yesterday. So, I continued on. First mile was slow and easy, but not too slow. For a change I set the Garmin lap distance on 0.25 instead of 1 mile just to try it out. Maybe this helped as I did not obsess about my mile pace. After about 1.5 miles, the 0.25's were pretty much between 2:00 and 2:03. Eventually the run was over. My average pace was 8:13 which was pretty much exactly what I wanted for today's run. I stopped very briefly twice, once to drop off the accelerade and once to pick it up.

 

Asics gel - 335 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
2.000.000.000.000.000.000.002.00

Various cross training and a little bit on the treadmill today.  Did 15 minutes on the elliptical, 10 minutes on the bike, some upper body weights and finished up with 2 easy miles on the treadmill.

 

Big run tomorrow! 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
15.025.000.000.000.000.000.0020.02

Today's run went pretty well for a 20 mile run. I was ready to start running just after 6:00. I was supposed to meet up with someone but he had said that if he's not there by 6:00 then start without him, so I did, which was good since he decided not to show up. This is understandable since there was some thunder but it seemed to be far enough away. Temp and humidity were not too bad, not ideal for running but certainly tolerable.

Started out at a pretty easy pace, 8:45 - 9:15 for the first few miles. My garmin was still on 0.25's for the splits. I decided to leave it that way for a while. The first few miles were not difficult. This is nice when that happens because those are oftentimes very difficult.

I stopped at the lake park for some water and powerade gel, then continued on towards the high school. Drank the accelerade I was carrying on my belt and refilled with water at the high school. At about mile 8 I was feeling pretty good. I did two loops through the neighborhood at the corner of east lake and keystone. There are a couple small hills in there, not too tough but a little bit of variety to break up the flat monotony. After this I was on my way back. I did a few miles at marathon pace.

I was running low on water so I looped through lake park on the way back, drank some water and refilled my bottles. After I left there, the Garmin said I had done 16.02, less then 4 miles left! Felt really good about that and did the next mile at marathon pace. I slowed down a little bit for the next mile as my average pace was right where I wanted it to be. But the next mile I felt it was getting harder to keep my pace, even my slower pace. I didn't want to slow down too much. Finally just one mile left to go. I wanted the run to be over at this point. I had to go 0.5 miles past where I was parked - which is tough psychologically when you have to loop past the "finish line" and then come back. I finished the last mile at 7:58. I might have been able to go faster - although it would have been very hard - but there was not much point to doing that.

Average pace was 8:13

I ran into a few of the other runners who were doing long runs and had some gatorade, grapes, and a soy joy bar. Legs felt kind of tight but not bad. Knees did not hurt during the run. I got home, stepped the wrong way and felt some pain in my right knee. Took a quick ice bath - although there wasn't that much ice. Then I got into the pool for a bit to loosen up. Iced the knee and took some advil, feels ok now.

Glycerin - 89.7 

Comments
From Amy on Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 08:23:50

Good job Mark - you make it all seem so do-able!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
9.004.000.000.000.000.000.0013.00

Today's run started off slow and sluggish. I didn't mind because I had just run 20 miles the day before and was glad once again that I was ready to run after a long run with just one day off. I had planned on doing 12 miles this morning. Since today is a holiday I wasn't on a tight schedule, my only constraint was to start and finish before the sun was out in full force. Woke up at 6:25, fed the dogs, tried to get myself moving. I decided to just start running from my house.

Finally got moving at a bit after 7:00. First mile at about 9:30, second mile at 8:50. For the 6th mile I finally had a mile under 8:00. I was carrying my water belt, filled with accelerade which I drank now and then. After 6.5 miles I stopped at the Y to refill my water bottles, then continued on. The next mile was pretty good then I finally picked things up, finally no longer feeling sluggish. I did the next 4 miles at marathon pace. It felt about the same effort as the first few slow miles that I did. By the time I reached the entrance to my neighborhood I had already gone 12.5 miles. I thought about walking back, which I started to do, then I figured why not just run back slowly, it was getting hot and walking would have taken longer. So I ran slowly - faster than when I started but slower than the last 4 miles.

Average pace: 8:09

Asics gel - 335

Comments
From Amy on Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 06:29:03

Hey Mark, how do you remember all that information about where you were for each mile, your pace, etc?

From Mark on Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 09:44:09

Hey Amy,

I try to write this stuff down shortly after the run is over with. A lot of this stuff I just remember as to where I was and what I was doing. As for the paces, I usually have the Garmin set to beep each mile and show the pace for the just completed mile.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
0.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.00

Today was cross training day, which was good as I did not get a lot of sleep last night.  For some odd reason I woke up at 3:30 wide awake, fortunately got back to sleep, then my youngest son runs in the room at 5:30 saying he had to throw up, fortunately he did not.  At 6:00 the dogs told me they had to go out, it was the oldest dog who asked - I've found that if I ignore her request there is a good chance of an accident, so I let them out.  Got back in bed for another 20 minutes and then finally got up.

Went to the Y, did some time on the arc trainer and some time on the rowing machine, followed up with some lower body weights and ab work.  A fairly light day.

Planning on another 50 miles this week - possibly 51 or 52. 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
10.001.050.000.000.000.000.0011.05

Another "easy" 11 miles today. Ok, 11 miles isn't quite easy yet, although 9 is, but at least it is no longer hard!

Met up with Dixie at the 7-eleven near John Chestnut park and got moving at little bit after 6:00. Started out at a comfortable pace, didn't pick things up much until there very last mile which was at a 7:29 pace. Run felt good overall. Weather was decent, about 76° - each degree cooler really seems to help with the runs. Saw a family of deer in the lake park where I had seen them last Monday. We spent the second half of the run talking, at times arguing about some financial product he is going to sell. It certainly seemed to make the run go by faster.

Average pace: 8:29

Glycerin - 100.75

Comments
From Jenny on Wed, Sep 05, 2007 at 13:32:02

You already have 100 miles on those Glycerins? You're getting expensive.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
6.150.000.004.000.000.000.0010.15

I woke up about 3:30, and half-dreaming I thought it was Friday today and that I had done my speed work already, then realized it was Thursday. Fortunately able to get back to sleep and up at 5:15 when the alarm went off.

Made it to the Y by 5:45, Dixie was already there. We warmed up with 2.5 easy miles then headed to the track. It was a new challenge for me today. I wanted to do 4 1600's at 6:28. My previous best was 3.

The first one felt hard, but it was doable and completed in 6:27

Second one felt better at 6:28. Third one was at 6:25.

At this point I told myself that I should be able to do the 4th one. The speed was not a problem and my endurance was up. Dixie decided to end on a high note and just do 3, since last time he had to slow down on the 3rd 1600, so completing all 3 on pace was good enough for him. But he did offer to do the last 800 on my last 1600 with me, so that sounded like a good deal to me. I completed the last one in 6:16. I felt like I could have done one more if I had to.

The Garmin kept on measuring short, it displayed one mile complete each time when we were about 50 feet or so I think from the finish. So I had to add on the seconds between the Garmin mile and the track's 1600 finish to get the above times. If I had been running just off of the Garmin I would have had really good times, with the last Garmin mile at 6:08. Well, I guess that is what the track is for.

Cooled down with an easy 2 miles or so to get in at least 10 miles for the morning.

Asics gel - 345

Comments
From ArmyRunner on Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 11:36:23

Yeah their is a strange thing that happens with the Garmin on the track. For some reason it does not measure the turns very well and measures long. Not sure exactly why but I am sure some of the smarter math or computer types could figure it out.

From Amy on Fri, Sep 07, 2007 at 08:02:28

Wow!

From Sasha Pachev on Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 13:43:09

When you are running on the track, or anything accurately measured for that matter, you should never go by the Garmin for distance.

Note that you were able to hit the last mile in 6:16 in spite of the fatigue from the 3 repetitions earlier and with some gas left in the tank, but you never ran that fast or anywhere close in your prior workouts. This is a very common effect of higher mileage - it gives a slow-twitch dominant runner improvement on all distances starting at 800 meters.

From Mark on Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 12:09:44

After ArmyRunner's coment, I did some research and saw how running a track could throw off the distance based on how the software works. I've learned to not rely on the garmin too much, just use it like the aid that it is.

I've become quite a believer in the benefits of putting in higher mileage and plan on continue increasing my base miles after Chicago.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
3.000.000.000.000.000.000.003.00

Easy run today.   Three miles around Kinsmere, no Garmin, but I did bring the watch.  Time was 26.06, so about 8:42 depending on whether it was more or less then 3 miles.

Warmed up inside on the arc trainer, before heading out.  Started out very slow and didn't go too  much faster.  Felt a bit stiff at the beginning of the run.  Much better at the end of the run.

After the run did about 20 minutes of upper body weights.

Another big run tomorrow although not quite as big as last weekend's big run. 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
8.507.560.000.000.000.000.0016.06

Today's run made me feel pretty good since I didn't feel like fading out at all at the end of the run. A good strong finish can be a great confidence booster.

I had some company for the beginning of the run. Joe, Keith, and Nelson were at Starkey park just before 6:30. Keith and Nelson were only going to do between 6 and 7. So, we all started out together at a nice and easy pace for the first three miles, between 9:00 and 9:20. Keith and Nelson said good bye and turned back.

It was a beautiful morning, about 74º with the sun just coming up over the trees. There was one near disaster on the way out, we almost ran into a huge spider web. I'm not sure how it was connected because it was in the middle of the path, centered about 5 feet above the ground and parallel to the direction of the path instead of straight across it. I would have missed it except for the large spider in the middle of the web, it's body was probably at least one inch in diameter, with it's legs making it even larger. I would have hated to have the web and spider wrapped around me. After that the other guys talked about who had seen rattle snakes on this trail and how one person had even seen a gator farther out. Fortunately, we didn't run into any of those today.

Joe and I continued on, to the end of the Starkey bike path and turned left onto the suncoast bike path for another 1.5 miles. Pace was picking up slightly.

Turned around at the 8 mile point. Pace continued to pick up gradually. Just after 10 miles, Joe said he wanted to slow down but insisted that I continue at my pace. So, I kept on going with my pace continue to pick up. It felt not hard at all. At this point I decided I'd try to hold marathon pace for the return trip, which I was able to do. The last mile was at 7:04. I felt like I could have gone farther but was glad that today's run was just 16.

Stopped back at my truck, grabbed a recovery shake then walked back towards the trail, just in time to catch up with Joe as he finished his run.

Average pace - 8:08 

This wraps up my highest mileage week so far. I've got one more big week next week, then start tapering off for Chicago. I can't believe how close it is now.

Glycerin - 116.81

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
1.700.000.000.000.000.000.001.70

Last night, Noah, my six year old son decided that he wanted to run.  He was very insistent.  How can anyone turn that down?

Later, I found out that his real motivation was that I had left out some sport jelly beans which I hadn't used.   He wanted those and figured that going on a run was one way to get them.  Well, whatever gets you motivated I suppose! 

So, this morning we did one loop around the neighborhood.  It was about 8:45 and the cool morning weather was starting to disappear.  We walked a couple hundred feet then I let Noah lead the way.  He kept a pretty consistent pace, had speed up to about an 8:50 pace at one point.  Had to stop and retie his shoes - I should have double knotted them.   At 1.2 miles he announced "Walk Break!" so we walked about 1 minute, then continued on back to the house.

After the run we both hopped into the pool to cool down. 

We averaged 12:11 pace. 

Comments
From Amy on Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 05:02:49

Good for you both!!! I need some of those beans!

From Jenny on Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 12:17:23

I was wondering if you were going to log your "Noah" miles.

From Sasha Pachev on Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 12:33:44

I log the miles with my kids. In fact, I log everything that is faster than 16:00 mile pace.

From Mark on Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 12:37:59

It was a strong effort for Noah and was certainly faster than what I could have walked. Also, it was the day after a pretty solid long run for me which is something I usually don't do, so that was another reason to log this run.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
9.061.000.000.000.000.000.0010.06

Good Monday morning run. Met up just after 6:00 with Dixie. Started out at a nice and easy pace for the first few miles. Weather was great. On the way back the pace had picked up by itself, with one mile at marathon pace, then the next mile started out that way but we slowed it down a bit. Finished last mile with 7:48.

Average pace: 8:16

 Asics gel - 355
 

I'm aiming for a mile or two more this week then last week, then I'll start backing it down.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
0.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.00

Cross train/take it easy day.   Felt a bit wiped out this morning, maybe something that has been making its rounds through my family.  Not terrible though.  Thought about doing nothing, went to the Y did some walking on the treadmill with varying speeds and inclines for about 10 minutes, then 20 minutes on the rowing machine.  I definitely felt better afterwards than I did before so doing something proved to be the right choice.

Needed to head back so that Jenny could do her run before the kids had to go to school.

Going to try and take it easy today and get to bed early tonight. 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
10.031.000.000.000.000.000.0011.03

6:00 run starting at the Y with Dixie and Randall. Pretty good run with a slightly faster start than my usual slow 9:00+/mile starts but not too fast. Fairly consistent pace with a slight pick up at about 7 miles before we decided to back the pace back down because this was supposed to be an easy day.

Average pace: 8:14

Glycerin - 127.84

I barely listened to my ipod except for a little bit towards the end. Chicago marathon says absolutely no ipods or other devices this year, so I'm planning on going without music. The music got a bit annoying towards the end of my last marathon so I shouldn't miss it, plus there is supposed to be tremendous crowd support at Chicago.

I had dental appointment cloud hanging over my head for this morning's run. One of my teeth was chipped so that needed fixing. In the past week I chipped another tooth. The first one I attributed to bad luck but after the second one I'm suspicious of maybe too much sports drink, so I've been trying to rinse with plain water after drinking sports drink. Ok, both teeth are fixed now although the appointment turned more complicated and longer than I had anticipated.

Comments
From Jenny on Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 12:06:59

Did you ask the dentist about the sports drink?

From Mark on Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 12:11:29

They said the problems were probably not from the sports drink although they did say it was a good idea to chase it down with plain water to help rinse.

From Amy on Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 04:07:47

It's a totally different running experience with/without music...I used to feel that I couldn't manage without the music to distract me, but Stefaan and I never take music on our long runs together and I have gotten used to it. Doesn't Disney have a similar policy?

From Mark on Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 11:27:13

Disney's policy is similar but is worded differently. They say that headphones are strongly discouraged. Chicago says they are not allowed. I searched online a little bit to see what others had to say. It sounds like in the past years a lot of people still wore headphones, but this year I think they've changed the wording again.

From Amy on Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 07:31:59

Thanks, Mark - it is definitely good to know these things before the big day!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
3.070.007.000.000.000.000.0010.07

Another good tempo run today. Dixie was going to do it with me but he called at 5:37 saying he could not make it because had been up late with clients. It would have been nice to run with someone else but it also meant I didn't have to rush to meet anyone. So, I took my time a little bit and didn't get out the door until 6:00 instead of 5:45.

I got to the Y, warmed up inside a little bit on the arc trainer for 6 minutes, then stretched a little bit and headed outside. Today's goal was 7 miles of tempo at 7:01 ~ 7:07 range, with a total of 10 miles including warm-up/cool down. Ran about 1.75 miles at a 9:30 pace or so, then dropped off my bottle of acclerade and took a power bar gel. I was trying to follow the steps of another successful tempo run I had recently.

I took off and wanted to get into a pace that felt like tempo as soon as possible, it was a little faster than 7:00 but it seemed to feel ok so I thought I would stick with it. As I knocked off the miles I still had to keep bargaining with myself - e.g. ok, mile 4, this is the minimum, mile 5 - try and get this one because I slowed down here last time, mile 6 - ok getting close, mile 7 - countdown to finish. I got 6:55, 6:49, 6:53, 6:51, 6:40, 6:54, 6:40.

I think between now and the marathon I'm going to focus on finishing my remaining runs, slow down and take it easier as the "getting close to the race something might happen to me paranoia" is starting to set in.

The pace for this run when projected to a 5K beats my 5K PR. I know those mileage predictor charts don't apply equally to everyone but hopefully there is some correlation. There are lots of things that can happen on marathon day so I'm going to hope for the best conditions I could hope for and go out and do my best.

Average pace - 7:37

Asics gel - 365 

Comments
From Amy on Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 07:34:01

Those are fabulous times! Great job - you are going to do really well in Chicago. Keep thinking positively!

From Sasha Pachev on Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 11:08:30

Very good. This shows a significant increase in fitness over all distances since the beginning of the year. I think 3:05-3:10 in Chicago is a very realistic target, you might even surprise yourself with a sub-3:00, that would not be impossible. Go out at 7:00 - 7:05 pace and if it feels good after 6, just try to hold it for as long as you can, then hang in there if you crash. If it does not feel good after 6 (should not happen, but you might be having a major off day), then back off to what feels good and finish the race. The end of an all out marathon often does not feel good, be prepared to deal with low blood sugar induced depression. Basically make a commitment to yourself on what you are going to do in different situation (make sure it is always something that is more a matter of doing it than a matter of being fit to do it, e.g I will keep on running vs I will run no slower than 7:10), and decide in advance that you are going to do it regardless of your mental state. Do not plan on picking it up on the last 6 miles, instead plan on gutting it out. If it gives you a faster pace, that is great, but if it does not, that is OK too.

From Mark on Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 13:19:02

Thanks Sasha. This is a lot to think about. I definitely have to fix my mind on a pace to hold onto. I'm starting in Corral "C" so it could be a bit congested at first (I think about 7000 runners ahead of me, hopefully most of them fast). I don't want to spend too much energy on weaving past slower runners but I will get into my pace as soon as possible. I'm going to spend the next few weeks mentally preparing myself. The six mile point sounds like a good time to evaluate my pace so I think I'll do that. Hopefully it will feel like "my day" - some days just feel that way. Then I'll go for it!!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
2.000.000.000.000.000.000.002.00

Mainly a cross training and weights day.  I did some time on the arc trainer and rowing machine.  Then I did 2 miles at an easy pace on the treadmill, followed by about 20 minutes of upper body weights.

 

Getting prepared for a nice and easy 20 mile run tomorrow, the last big long run before the marathon. 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
19.321.000.000.000.000.000.0020.32

Last big run before the marathon. Next weekend runs are 12, 8, and then marathon.

When woke up this morning and let the dogs outside I found that the heat and humidity had come back. It wasn't completely miserable but not as nice as it has been recently. Starting conditions were 79° and about 90% humidity.

I met up with Dixie and Joe at the Suncoast pkwy trail at 6:00. Joe was going to run about 15 or 16 and Dixie had signed up for the full 20 miles. We started out at an easy pace, 9:30 for first mile and then 8:40-8:50 for the next few. It was still dark for a while which was nice except for a good number of bikes on the trail zipping by. We turned off the suncoast trail and made a left into the Starkey park trail. After 7 miles Joe turned back. Dixie and I continued on until we had done 10 miles then started back. We still had the pace nice and easy with nothing really faster than 8:15. We stopped a few times to keep our water bottles filled and take some gels, so some of the miles were slower.

When we got back to the Suncoast trail, I had to take a left to retrace the route and get the full 20, about .35 miles up before heading south. Dixie was starting to fade so he took a right. With his head start it took me a while to catch him. I found out that although he was fading, there was a big guy that Dixie wanted to stay ahead of. I eventually caught up. We ran along side for a short time. With one mile left to go, my "reward" for not going fast (it was an 8:36 average pace). I wanted to see if I could do the last mile at marathon pace. So, I picked up and got into a pace, I looked at the Garmin and it said 7:06, so I figured I would hold onto that if I could do so without an all out effort. I pretty much did that, finishing the last mile at 7:08. Total distance was 20.12 at this point.

I drank some water, then walked back on the trail until I met up with Dixie then jogged the last 0.2 miles in with him.

The temp at the end was 86° but the humidity had dropped to 78%. Not ideal but a little better than miserable.

The run felt pretty good overall. I did end up with a blister but I don't think it should bother me too much. I didn't feel completely spent at the end. Part of my brain said no way could you do that ending pace for another 6.2 miles let alone an entire marathon. Another part of my brain said otherwise.

 

Glycerin - 148

Comments
From Jenny on Sun, Sep 16, 2007 at 06:31:28

Listen to the part of your brain that said otherwise.

From Amy on Sun, Sep 16, 2007 at 08:47:15

You will definitely be able to do, because you already can. Hats off to you!

From Shauna on Sun, Sep 16, 2007 at 22:09:35

Sounds like you had a great run, which should be a confidence booster for the marathon!

Your pacing sounds intriguing. For my last two marathons, in training I would run the entire long run at an easy pace and pick it up to marathon pace or faster for the final 3 miles. It sounds like you do more of a gradual increase. I'll have to try that out.

Enjoy your taper!

From Mark on Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 10:43:40

My pacing doesn't always work out this way. Some of it was because I was running with others and promised them I would keep the pace down until the end. The other reason was because of the fast day I had on Thursday - I didn't want to push my luck too much. However, as it turned out I felt pretty fresh when I got to mile 19 so that was nice.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
9.201.000.000.000.000.000.0010.20

I ran alone this morning. The humidity was way up but fortunately the temp wasn't terrible. Our new bed arrived yesterday. I was warned it might take some time to get used to - I did not sleep too well. I ate out at a Mexican restaurant - I didn't stuff myself but it's not ideal food before a run.

So, the run did not start out too well. I started out slowly with about a 9:30 for the first mile. Things usually start picking up after that but they did not pick up too much, just under a 9:00 pace for the next few miles. This was not good but I have learned not to panic in this situation - just keep moving, don't force the pace, just wait for it. It's supposed to be an easy day. Eventually I shook it all off and finally picked up for the sixth mile, seventh mile was 7:28, then I backed off slightly and kept it a bit under 8:00 (about 7:45~7:50) for the rest of the run.

On an interesting note, my pickup coincided with turning off my music.  At about 5 miles my right ear piece had become so sweaty it stopped working and I was having trouble keeping it from falling out.  So, I took the headphones off and practiced doing "association" while running.  Sometimes music can keep me motivated, but if it becomes a nuisance then it's better to just switch it off. 

Average pace: 8:23

Asics gel - 375

Comments
From Amy on Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 08:23:59

Too bad for the run, but it is probably a good learning experience. Amazing how stuff like the wrong food and a new mattress can affect your running! What do you do when doing "association"? Is it like moving meditation?

From Mark on Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 09:59:03

I'm no expert on what association is, but my understanding is it just means you focus on your running, breaths going in and out, your rhythm, how the joints and muscles are working together, stride, etc. It's the opposite of dissociation where you try and distract yourself with music, scenery, conversation or inwardly with non-running thoughts.

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0.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.00

Non-running day today.   Did the arc trainer and rowing machine.  Stretched.   Did some lower body weights and ab work.  Nothing too heavy or hard.  I feel like I worked out some kinks and loosened up.   Ready for a good run tomorrow.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
9.030.000.000.000.000.000.009.03

The weather was a bit nicer this morning. A few degrees cooler, a very slight breeze. Met up with Dixie, got moving a little bit after 6:00. Taking it easy as usual for the first mile, gradually getting faster for the next two miles after that. Took some time to feel fully warmed up. Stopped at the lake park at 3.4 miles, drank some accelerade then got moving again. Now, the legs felt warmed up and much lighter. Pace increased some more but not too much. The easy pace felt easy now.

Last 1.5 miles at about 7:45/mile pace. Felt very good.

Average pace: 8:14

When I race a 5K I usually run slow for two miles or so before the race to get warmed up. But I'm worried about warming up too much before a marathon, burning off too much glycogen before the race has started. I'll have to figure something out so I can start the run with my legs feeling awake and ready to run.

Glycerin - 157 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
6.150.000.004.000.000.000.0010.15

I woke up this morning just before the alarm was supposed to go off. I went over to the Y and talked to some people I know. Karen had just gone to Chicago for a 20 mile training run as part of a program by New Balance - the pace group sponsors. She said the weather was great, nice and cool in the low 50's.

This morning it was 73° which felt "chilly", it was slightly humid but overall very nice. I warmed up with two easy miles then headed to the track. I did 4 1600's with 800m recovery jogs between them. No Dixie today to follow behind. I knew what to expect, that the first one would not be easy and I'd think "how can I do three more of these". I got past all that and did each one pretty consistently. It wasn't easy but it was not as hard as last time. I did 6:25, 6:26, 6:25, and 6:24.

After that I did a bit over 2 miles for the cool down and so I'd have 10 miles for the day.

Felt really good when I was done.

Asics gel - 385

Comments
From Jenny on Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 13:49:48

Just thinking about your concerns about warming up for the marathon. If you are kind of stuck in the pack at first in corral C, I guess maybe that would give you a slower first mile which could be a warm-up for you. Plus you'll be moving around waiting for the start time. ?

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
3.500.000.000.000.000.000.003.50

Easy day today.  Warmed up on the arc trainer, then did some light stretching.  Did an abbreviated full body weight routine.

I then headed outside for a run.  The temp was nice, it was warmer than yesterday, a part of me at some point might miss the hot weather, some morning maybe when I go out and it's in the low 40's.

 No garmin on my run, just went out at what felt good.  Easy pace was easy, ran for 28:56.  Later mapped the run and it turned out to be pretty much 3.5 miles on the nose, which meant an 8:16 pace.

I'm going to do my Saturday run on Sunday since we have to leave early to get to the zoo for Jenny's 5K Zoo Run Run
 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
7.255.000.000.000.000.000.0012.25

Starting on Thu. night I felt like I was coming down with something, felt a little bit better on Friday morning, and a little bit worse on Saturday morning.  Sat. morning was Jenny's 5k race at the zoo.  She did great with a new PR of 26:28.  The first mile was outside of the zoo, the next mile went through the zoo past all of the outside animal exhibits and also through the indoor portion of the manatee exhibit.  Lots of sharp turns and up and downs.  After we got home I felt wiped out and run down so I took it easy most of the rest of the day.

I let myself sleep in a little bit later today as I was not meeting up with anyone.  The weather hasn't been too bad so I wasn't worried about beating the heat.  I arrived at Starkey park about 7:15, it had just started getting light out.   I started out the first mile taking it easy with a 9:14 pace, it felt pretty good.  Sometimes the first mile of the day can be difficult even at a slower pace.  The next mile I thought I was going faster, it felt good, but then I looked at my pace and saw I was going slower, about a 10:15 pace halfway through the mile.  I kept it easy but went a little faster with a 9:34 for the second mile.  After that I felt looser and lighter and settled into an 8:30ish pace.

At 7 miles my pace had picked up so I figured I would try out my legs with a mini tempo run.  I held the pace pretty well and averaged a 7:17 pace for the last 5 miles.  Went slow for the next 0.25 miles to get to the trail turn off to the parking lot which I walked.

Average for the run was 8:08 pace.

When I got home, Jenny had already run with the boys around the 1.7 mile neighborhood loop so I didn't do the kid run today.

Comments
From Jenny on Sun, Sep 23, 2007 at 19:12:00

14 more days...

From Amy on Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 07:50:13

...and counting!!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
6.230.000.000.000.000.000.006.23

I still felt a bit sluggish this morning when I woke up, but I got moving, warmed up and started my run.  Once I got going it was not too bad and I even picked up a little bit for the last two miles but nothing too fast.  The weather was warm (but not hot) and humid this morning.  Actually not bad weather to run through when one is not feeling so well.

Average pace: 8:17/mile 

Fortunately I don't have a demanding running schedule this week so I can get fully recovered rested and feeling on top of my game for the marathon. 

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0.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.00

Today was a rest day.   I did not go to the Y to cross train.  I did take Sammy (my dog) on a walk around the 1.7 mile neighborhood loop.  It was a great morning for a dog walk.

For breakfast I made a bowl of cream of buckwheat cereal.  It was pretty good.  I had been looking for buckwheat in the stores but could not find much.    My wife had grown tired of me talking about buckwheat all of the time - about how Sasha eats buckwheat and is very fast.  So, when she was near a health food store she bought cream of buckwheat cereal, buckwheat maple cereal, and some buckwheat groats.  We haven't tried the groats yet but hope to soon. 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
6.111.000.000.000.000.000.007.11

I didn't sleep great last night.  My lower back was hurting.  For some unknown reason on Monday I had spent too much time slouching in my chair at work, I think I was concentrating on something too intently, until finally I had realized I was slouching and straightened up.  I should be able to get rid of it soon. 

Ran around my neighborhood for the first time in a while.  I did this for several reasons.  One of the reasons was for some drinking practice.  I set out some cups of endurance formula gatorade on the tail gate of my truck.  

I grabbed a cup after the first loop (1.7 miles), then another cup on the next loop.  It went pretty well, I was able to drink it all without spilling any or breaking my pace.   After the second loop I added on some side streets and a smaller loop off to the side so I wouldn't have to do 4 of the same loop.  For the sixth mile my slowness had worn off and the pace picked up almost by itself.  I backed it down a little bit for the last mile, although it was faster than the first 5 miles.

Average pace: 8:11 

Comments
From Lyman on Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 11:26:58

Hows the sunny weather in Florida?

I just joined the blog and have been looking for runners in my age group (40-45)and with the same goals or close to, so that I can train with them at least on long runs. So far you are the only one that has similar times, goals, and age. Unfortunelty you are way out in Florida...I'm in Utah. I'll keep tabs on your progress and hopefully we'll both qualify for Boston next year. Good luck!

From Mark on Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 22:41:18

Weather has been getting nicer lately with "fall" showing up. Welcome to the blog.

You are fortunate to be in Utah since so many of the other bloggers here live there. This blog was a lucky find for me, I just sort of stumbled across it when I was looking for advice to qualify for Boston. The other bloggers here a very helpful and friendly, it feels like a real community. I enjoy reading about everyone's training and pick up some good tips that way too.

I'm getting set to run Chicago in just under two weeks, I think I've got a fair chance of qualifying there but of course there are lots of variables. Good luck with your training.

From Amy on Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 06:13:41

Hey Mark, that is a cool idea to actually practice drinking on the run! Adds another dimension to tapering, I guess? A litte bit more than a week to go...I'm starting to get excited and I'm not even running it!

From Jenny on Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 21:10:15

Maybe you should get some sippy cups. :)

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4.323.000.000.000.000.000.007.32

I didn't try to get up extra early in hopes of meeting up with some of the 5:30 guys, instead I slept in to 5:55.  Headed over to the Y and did some warm up on the arc trainer of about 12 minutes.  Always make starting out on the run so much easier and I wanted this to be an enjoyable run today.

Started my run with a usual starting up, not in a hurry to get anyplace pace.  Second mile was faster but still easy.  So, it didn't take too long this morning before the slow feeling wore off. 4th mile was just under 8:00 pace, then 5th, 6th, and 7th felt like what I want to run for the marathon, a bit slower than the comfortably hard pace of a tempo run but faster than "easy" training race pace.

Added a little bit at the end for a cool down, then went back inside for some more cool down.

Average pace: 7:53 

I think my back problems are mostly cleared up now.   Still a few remnants left from my bout of run down-ed-ness which started last Thursday night.  

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
2.500.000.000.000.000.000.002.50

Walked Sammy around the neighborhood loop.

Then did an easy 2.5 run around neighborhood, running the 1.7 mile loop plus an extension out to Trinity blvd. and back.

Left the Garmin at home, just took a watch and had mapped out the route before hand.

Average pace: 8:16

Felt better at the end than at the beginning.

Biked with the kids to school so that Jenny could get her run in.

Unfortunately her run did not go so well - hit by a bad side stitch.  Anyone have ideas on how to prevent side stitches?  She's tried pretty much all of the "published" remedies.

Comments
From Sasha Pachev on Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 13:29:28

How is her diet? Does she drink enough fluids? How is her consumption of cholesterol (this is a minus)? What about caffeine (minus as well)? Does she eat enough fiber?

From Mark on Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 12:04:35

She gets plenty of fiber, her diet is pretty healthy - usually a bit better than mine. Low cholesterol. Takes in some caffeine but not before a run (about 1 cup of coffee or tea per day). Pretty good on fluids, drinks lots of water. Sometimes she has gatorade before the run, that morning she did not. Later in the day she felt like she was coming down with something so that could have been it. Fortunately, she has not been shut down during a race so far, just during training runs.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
8.420.000.000.000.000.000.008.42

Easy pace, not very far run today.  Met up with Joe in John Chestnut park at 7:00.  Ran at an easy pace for pretty much the entire run.  It was a nice morning for running.  Spent some time socializing and talking about Chicago marathon with some of the other runners that are going to be doing it.

 

Average pace: 8:40 

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No run today.  I felt a little bit guilty since this is the first Monday that I had missed in quite some time.  This is my taper week and my right knee was acting up a bit.  After Wed.'s run it had felt like I had twisted it slightly.  Thu. and Fri. felt ok, Sat. wasn't bad but it felt like if I had pushed things I could have made it worse.  I'm going to take it easy this week but still get in a few runs before Sunday.

I did walk Sammy around the 1.7 mile neighborhood loop. 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
3.200.000.000.000.000.000.003.20

A little over 3 miles at an easy pace.  Ran along the Trinity river in Ft. Worth near TCU.  It was very dark but there were quite a few runners on the trail, some of them going pretty fast.  Some bicyclists but they all were using lights.  It was a little bit warmer and humid than I had expected.

Knee felt ok. 

Comments
From Amy on Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 04:53:36

Glad your knee is feeling okay...only a few more days til the big day!

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2.000.000.000.000.000.000.002.00

This morning I did some light cross training.  10 minutes on the arc trainer, 11 minutes on the rower, then 2 miles on the treadmill at an easy pace.

Everything felt pretty good, knee ok still. 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
3.203.000.000.000.000.000.006.20

Pretty good run this morning. It was surprisingly warmer and more humid than I thought it would be but that's ok since Chicago is not going to be as cool out as I thought it would be based on this weekend's forecast. So, with it being warm here this morning it will seem a lot cooler at Chicago, or at least that is what I'm hoping.

I warmed up on the arc trainer about 10 minutes inside before heading out. I ran the first 1.75 miles at an easy pace. I wanted to see if I could easily switch into a higher gear - I was able to do that ok, doing the next mile in about 7:20. I backed it down a little for the next mile, but my pace started going up on its own back to a 7:44, the next two miles where in the 7:20 to 7:30 range (forget the exact pace). I was nearing the end so I jogged it back in for the last half mile. I went back inside and cooled down some more walking on the treadmill.

Glad I was able to get in six miles with some of it at a faster pace without any adverse affects. I was careful not to push too much but I didn't want Sunday's race to feel like a complete shock to my body.

Average pace: 8:03

Glycerin - 191

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
5.500.000.000.000.000.000.005.50

Ran with Jenny in Chicago.  She needed to get one more run in for the week and I wanted to do a run also to get loosened up for tomorrow.  It was in the low 70's when we ran, it didn't seem too bad.  I could could not get a signal with the Garmin until we were away from the tall buildings and on Lakeshore dr. so we are not sure exactly how far that was but guessed at around a mile.  Ran along the lake.  Jenny was doing two 1600's at 8:35 pace, we did those, then worked our way back towards the hotel.   We were a little bit farther away when we finished so the return trip was a little bit longer.

There were lots of people out running.

 

Later that day I decided to get a new garmin that could supposedly keep the signal through the marathon course.  Jenny had been wanting one because my 201 with the cloth strap was always smelly and sweaty after I ran, so we figured it was a good time to get one.  They were all sold out at the expo so we stopped by the big Garmin store downtown. 

Race: Chicago Marathon (26.2 Miles) 03:35:08, Place overall: 1372, Place in age division: 195
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0.0026.200.000.000.000.000.0026.20

I got to the corral extra early, about 6:20, to make sure I could get a good spot. Despite the weather predictions going up each day I was still holding some hope that somehow the temps would not go up too high. With the corrals pretty much empty it looked reasonable that maybe I could quickly dart over to the 3:20 pace group in the next corral.

As the corrals filled up with people they suddenly started looking larger and larger. By the time the pace group leaders showed up they looked very far away. I was chatting with a woman who wanted to do 3:15, she was from Houston so I thought maybe the heat might not bother her too much. I would see her throughout the course, passing and being passed. The race announcers said to adjust your time goals. I adjusted from a hoped for 3:15 to see if I could still get 3:20 or at least 3:20:59.

Jenny was able to hang out with me just over the corral fence. So we chatted and hung out. There was a skyscraper nearby which had left office lights on so that the building spelled out "Go Cubs Go". A bee kept on trying to land on me. I have an irrational fear of bees so I kept on trying to run away from it, looking like a fool in doing so, but I got my warm up out of the way.

The race started and we inched towards the starting line, 02:27 after the race started I crossed the start mat and continued to walk as the throng of people was extremely thick. The walk changed to a shuffle then picked up as people started to spread. I didn't want to weave very much, but had to a little bit here and there. The garmin pace seemed screwy and later I'd realize I had not let it lock in properly to the satellites because it had been taking too long.

Since the Garmin paces don't mean too much I'll mainly just talk about the 5K splits that the chip recorded.

First 5K was in 24:01 - most of it was much faster due to the first minute or so being walking/shuffling. I was already feeling warm. My left ankle felt a little bit tight as it often does early in a run (even when starting at a slow pace). That seemed normal and would work itself out eventually. I saw my parents about my 2, they looked very proud and happy to see me looking strong.

Next 5K was in 23:41. Crowd was getting thinner by mega marathon standards. I was trying to get to the 3:20 pace group, it seemed very reasonable at that point but I could never quite see them so I'm not sure how far away they were. But I kept going, mainly running by feel for the pace.

By the time I was approaching the 15K mat it was getting a bit harder, I was feeling warmer and warmer. I knew lots of people were tracking my run and I wanted to have a good pace at the 15K point.

That 5K was a 23:20.

Next 5K was in 24:00, pace had slowed down slightly.

I reached the half marathon point at 1:40:01, I had sped up slightly between the 20K point and the half way point. I wanted to get under 1:40 but figured this was pretty good considering the conditions.

Sometime just after mile 14 I started getting my first calf cramp. It was a very small one but still was there. I had gotten a bad calf cramp at Disney at mile 14. I wanted to avoid them this time. I was determined to take Gatorade at every water stop. I had successfully done that so far, grabbing one cup at each station and drinking it without breaking my pace. So, this was one of my goals accomplished, however now it seemed like it was not going to be enough. After all, it was a bit warmer than Disney (which started at 66° and ended in the upper 70's). Now it seemed that one cup of gatorade per stop plus the two energy gels were not enough. I'd start taking two.

Next 5K was in 24:52, slower but still an 8:00 pace.

I saw Jenny at about 16 miles. She had seen me earlier on the course but I did not see her. She was making a tireless effort to get from spot to spot to cheer me on, probably putting in a total of 7 miles of very fast walking. My pace picked up slightly upon seeing her.

Next 5K was in 27:00 minutes, now at the 30K mark. Cramps were getting worse and worse in frequency and intensity. Both legs were cramping as well as my right arm. At some point I was hit with a pretty bad side stitch, which temporarily slowed me down to a near walk until it passed.

There were so many good and kind people along the course. People with lawn sprinklers turned on , people passing out bottled water. At one point I passed an open fire hydrant which I thought would be good to run through. Note to self: don't do that again, wet shoes weigh a lot more. I could feel a huge blister forming on my left foot, but I didn't care too much about it right now.

As I was approaching 20 miles I was looking forward to it. I knew that the last 10K would be no picnic but I wanted to get through it. I got to 20 miles at 2:41, only 1 minute off of an 3:30 pace. I tried to speed up (as I had done few times recently), but the calf cramps would hit me hard when I tried that, as if a giant hand was gripping me.

I completed that 5K in 28:12, the 35K mark, 21.7 miles, less than 5 miles to go. I had told myself it was ok to walk through the water stops, but I didn't quite do that. I'd walk a couple steps to take the first gulp of gatorade, then go back to a shuffle, returning to a run as I finished the cup. One stop had ice, which I held in my hand to cool myself off with. At the next water stop I asked for ice but the did not have any. There was lots of gatorade but it was all warm at this point. I later found that I was lucky to have gatorade as people after me would find empty aid stations.

The next 5K was my slowest at 28:32, to the 40K mark. Ok, now I at least had the finish line to pull me through. Despite the slowdown and muscle cramps I did not have the hopeless feeling I had at Disney during most of the last 10K. I was a bit thirsty but didn't feel like I had an unquenchable thirst. At some point around here there was a bank's time and temperature sign which displayed 98°. I knew that was probably inflated but it was still discouraging.

I saw the 25.2 mile marker. I hit the lap button on the garmin so I could count down the last mile. It had been not very helpful until now. I fought off calf cramps the best I could. It must be someone's idea of a bad joke that the only hill on the entire course is close to the end. I knew about the hill from reading about the course. It looked long and high but the course notes said it was not as bad as it looked. I ran up it and held my pace. Just past the hill was the last turn to the final 0.2 mile stretch, it looked a lot longer than what 0.2 miles usually looks like. Jenny and my parents both said they saw me running, but I looked too focused for anyone to think that I would actually see them.

I was far off my original goal but I didn't feel bad about it at this point. Later, I'd feel even better when the full extent of the problems became known. I grabbed my medal, had a picture taken, and then grabbed cup after cup of gatorade. Stepping out of the runner area my right calf seized up, a stranger had to help steady me. I kept on walking to the reunion area until I found my wife and parents.

Throughout the rest of the day I would run into people who did not get to finish. I had a lot of friends there. There were strangers who asked me "Did you get to finish"? One man was making his comeback marathon, first one in 20 years, when he was told to stop running and walk when he was just a few miles from the finish. I couldn't believe all the stories. I realized how lucky I was and felt guilty about grumbling to myself about warm gatorade! There was one woman from the Tampa area who I know of but don't know personally. She was written up in the local paper, she finished with a 3:09, an amazing feat, but she was also close to a tragic end with a body temperature of 107° at the finish line, fortunately they were able to cool her off.

I think I might have shaved a few minutes off by running a "smarter" race and doing the first half a little bit slower, but in the first half a 3:20 still seemed possible.

I'm going to recover and try again, maybe in Jacksonville this December. The person who finished in 1372nd place last year ran a 3:08.


Comments
From Sasha Pachev on Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 17:01:15

Note that in spite of the conditions you still managed to get a 17 minute PR! 3:08 sounds about right for your current fitness, actually.

From Amy on Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 05:41:56

Great work, Mark - thanks for the report, it is so fascinating to read about what it was like. It makes me both scared and excited for our race. Hope you're starting to feel recovered! We can't wait to cheer you on in your next one!

From Katy on Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 08:48:37

Very impressive! I am in awe of anyone who can run 26.2 miles...especially in the conditions that you were given. I would love to hear about how you felt for the next few days after the race.

From Lyman on Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 13:33:14

Greaty job! I've dealt with those nasty calf cramps in the past. For some reason I only get them when I race but it can really slow you down. I'm glad you got to finish the course, unlike so many other runners. Enjoy the recovery and it looks like you're already planning the next one.

From JohnK on Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 14:27:39

Mark,

You really ran well and held up better than most, certainly better than I did! Once I decided I need to take some walking breaks through aid stations my resolve to run hard really evaporated and I just focused on finishing regardless of time. But anyway, Chicago was an odd experience and not a good way to measure potential. Like you I'm thinking of another marathon in 4-8 weeks. You should hit 3:15 or better without any problem. Hope your recovery is going well.

From Mark on Fri, Oct 12, 2007 at 10:39:02

Thanks everyone for the comments.

I can't wait for my next marathon. If all goes well, I'll be in Jacksonville on Dec. 16.

The race is capped at 2,500 so there won't be a slow crowded start. Weather should be nicer (fingers crossed!).

From Shauna on Sat, Oct 13, 2007 at 18:42:16

Great job, Mark! I've had heat exhaustion before, so I am very impressed that you ran so well in the heat. Good luck at Jacksonville!

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Decided to start getting back into my routines.

No running today, but I did get myself to the Y for 20 minutes on the rowing machine.

Biked the kids to school so Jenny could start her run earlier.   Did an extra loop around the neighborhood to look for Jenny and keep her company but I did not see her. 

Last time I went on a run too soon after the marathon and ended up injured, so I'm being a little extra careful this time. 

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One more day of no running.  I did 2.7 miles of dog walking, one in the morning of 1.7 and a 1 mile walk in the evening.

I was tempted to run this morning.  Joe was going to run and I thought about doing 5 or 6 but decided not to due to some residual soreness in the calves.

I'm going to try and not wait too much longer.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
2.260.000.000.000.000.000.002.26

I figured that one full week with no running was enough.

Jenny returned from her 8 mile run this morning and it was still quite nice outside.  I decided to give it a try.  I was going to run with the kids, they didn't feel up to a run but agreed to bike alongside me.

 I did an out and back course for a total of 2.26 miles.  I kept the pace very easy.   During the return trip the back of my left calf started to hurt so I slowed down to where it did not hurt.

If my calf is not hurting tomorrow, I'll try a little bit farther.

Average pace: 10:33
 

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From Amy on Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 03:21:52

Must feel good to get back into the swing of things again!

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After yesterday's short run I decided to take one more day off from running.

Did some cross training instead.  21 minutes rowing machine and 10 minutes on the arc trainer.

I'll try for another run tomorrow. 

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I ran a little bit farther today than on Sunday.   My left calf started hurting a little bit, but then at 2 miles it was feeling better.  Pace was faster than on Sunday but still at an easy pace.

I'll try a little bit farther next time. 

Average pace: 8:48 

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Non-running day.

10 minute warm-up on the arc trainer, followed by upper body weights.  I had not done those for quite some time, felt good.

Didn't go too heavy or try to do too much.

 I'll run tomorrow.
 

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6.230.000.000.000.000.000.006.23

I feel like I am getting back to normal finally.

I wanted to do at least 5 miles today, a small increase from my last run. About a mile into the run I thought that at least 5.5 would be good. On the way back I took an extra turn to add a little bit more onto the run to end up with a little bit over 6 miles.

My easy pace feels like it is getting back to normal.

There was still some residual soreness in my left calf but it is bothering me less and less and shows up much later in the run. Not speeding up definitely helps, so I'll have to not go any faster until it is all gone.

It was still somewhat warm out but in a nice way, about 75°, not bad even when in the full sun.

Average pace: 8:34

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From Amy on Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 08:00:30

Glad to hear you are getting back up to full speed! Sounds like it was a wise decision to take it easier than you did last time. Have a great weekend!

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I warmed up inside first with 10 minutes on the arc trainer followed by some light stretching.

I went outside to start my run. My legs felt dead and it was very humid outside. The first mile felt horrible but things gradually got better. By mile 4, I was feeling ok and finished the run on a more positive note than when I started it.

Runs don't always feel so good for me when starting out, this is what kept me from running for years. But I'm glad I know how to get past the early parts of a run and keep going.

I went back inside after the run and did some lower body weights. Felt even better after that.

I ran into Joe and we talked about doing Jacksonville together which would be great.

Race: Rattlesnake Run (1 Miles) 00:09:20, Place overall: 32, Place in age division: 4
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Jenny was doing the 5 mile run.  It was all off road with lots of hills.  The race is located in San Antonio, FL.  As far as hilly terrain goes, this is pretty much the place to go in this area of Florida.  At about 5:00 am it was raining pretty heavily so it didn't seem certain that the race would still be on - at least not for the kids.

So, the kids and I were just doing the 1 mile fun run.  We came in fourth place for adult/child groups.  Noah had such a determined look on his face coming into the finish chute that the crowd  just had to cheer for him.  There were dog/human teams also.  It was a lot of fun.  My weekend long run would have to wait one more day.

The out and back one mile course was pretty hilly too, although not as bad as what Jenny had to face on her 5 mile course.  She did well also, averaging an 8:54 pace despite all the hills and other challenging off road terrain. 

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7.662.000.000.000.000.000.009.66

It was challenging to get started this morning.  I woke up ok and got moving in a decent amount of time but when I got to the park there was a sign at the trail saying that it was closed from 6:00 to 11:00 today for the Longleaf triathlon.  So, that's what all those cones were for on the way there.  So, I headed to plan B spot, the parking lot at the Suncoast trail.  As I drove there I realized that this would also be part of the triathlon course so I just headed home.   Sometimes when looking for a fishing spot you drive all over the place looking for the perfect spot.  Finally you get back home and realize that was the best spot.

Finally, about 45 minutes after leaving home I started my run from home.  It was still cool enough outside with some overcast sky to keep the sun back.  The first mile was nice and easy at about 9:30 pace.  I did an out and back course through a couple different neighborhoods, pretty much running through the same streets that I run through when starting from the Y.  I picked up the pace a few times.   When I got back to my neighborhood, I looped around the long way back to my house adding a little bit more onto the run.

Average pace: 8:02

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Non-running day today.   I don't like skipping Monday's run - I feel like I'm not getting the right start for the week, however I ran yesterday, so my schedule is shifting this week.  I'm going to run Tue-Sat.

 Warmed up on Arc trainer then did about 45 minutes of weights, mostly upper body.
 

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5.601.000.000.000.000.000.006.60

I set the alarm for 5:00 this morning.  I hadn't done that for a while and wanted to try getting up earlier.  When I start my day earlier it seems like I can get more done.  I woke up at 4:30, still too early so I fell back asleep and then woke up at 5:34.  I checked my alarm clock, it was set for 5:00 pm.  Oh well, still a pretty early start.   Still a bit warm and muggy this morning. 

Went over to the Y, warmed up for 10 minutes on the arc trainer and did a little bit of stretching. 

First mile was ok, easy pace about 9 something.  Second mile I felt my old nemesis, shin tightness  on my left leg, but got that worked out over the second mile.  Got into a pretty good pace and picked one mile up to 7:11, but didn't want to push too fast.

Went inside and cooled down a little bit on the treadmill. 

Overall pace: 8:13 

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From Amy on Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 03:18:11

Sounds like you need a louder alarm clock! Great to see you are getting back into your running routine!

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6.070.000.000.000.000.000.006.07

It was raining pretty hard when I woke up.  It would let up and then come down heavy again.  I thought about running outside in the rain but there was also lightning.  I was only planning on about 6 miles so I figured I would just do it on the treadmill.

I warmed up 10 minutes on the elliptical first, then got on the treadmill.  Some of the treadmills are programmed to stop at 30 minutes.  I looked for one that would stay on, but they all seemed to be programmed for 30 minutes.  So, I would just have to make note of how far I had gone as the time approached 30 minutes.  Sometimes, if you can restart fast enough I think it will remember the miles but that did not work this time. I did the miles in two segments, 30:00 and 19:21.  It wasn't so bad once I warmed up.

Average pace: 8:07/mile 

Finished up with some lower body weights - about 20 minutes worth. 

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6.112.000.000.000.000.000.008.11

Cooler weather is finally here.  65° at the start.  Woke up just before 6:00.  Fed the dogs.  Andy was up so made him some breakfast then headed to the Y.  Warm up inside with 10 minutes on the elliptical.  Then, set out on my run with a goal of 7 miles in mind.

First mile was slow as usual, although slightly faster today than yesterday.   Warmed up and steadily picked up some speed.  My route ended up being a little bit over 7 if I headed straight back.  I was feeling good so I added a little bit more on at the end.

Average pace: 8:04 

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I was starting to feel run down on Wednesday night, in danger of coming down with a cold.  By last night it seemed to be getting worse.  But I went to bed last night believing in what a good night's sleep could do and this morning I felt better.  The salt water gargle before bed also helped.

So this morning I warmed up on the rowing machine and a few minutes on the bike and then did some lower body weights.  I think this has been helping my knee.

I had thought about doing the treadmill but decided against it.  There  was some rain outside but it was very light and the temperature was a near perfect 67º .  I ran with no watch and no garmin.  I did start my watch, left it behind and stopped it when I got back.

Time for run was 33:11.  I mapped it out and it was pretty much exactly 4 miles.

Average pace: 8:17

 Asics gel

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11.280.000.000.000.000.000.0011.28

Nice run this morning.  The weather was near perfect.  I arrived at Starkey park this morning about 6:30.  Keith was already there.  When I woke up I had one of those feelings like I didn't feel like going on a run.  I was counting on long run magic to make it enjoyable.

We started out slowly.  It was still very dark and we started running before getting to the main bike path so we had to be careful about spider webs and other stuff to bump into.  The first mile was slow at 10:00.  Next mile was just over 9:00 pace.  Pace picked up over the next few miles a little bit at a time.  We had talked about just doing 10 miles, but when we got out 5 miles I said why not go out another 0.5, so we did.

The return trip was nice.  For the last full mile we were still chatting the whole way even though it was a 7:41 pace.

Hung out for a bit and chatted with some of the other striders who were there after their runs. 

Looks like the long run magic worked.  Also, I think this wraps up my post marathon reverse taper. 

Average pace: 8:42

Comments
From Amy on Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 06:06:28

I needed some of that long run magic today! Sounds like your recovery went really well.

From Mark on Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 09:43:12

I'll try to send some your way next time Amy :)

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Dogs woke me up a little bit earlier than the alarm clock was supposed to go off. So, instead of trying to ignore them for another 15 minutes and stay in bed, I decided it was easier just to get up. Let them outside, fed them, then headed to the Y.

Warmed up on the bike inside for 10 minutes, then some light stretching. Headed outside, pretty nice morning for a run. First mile was slow - 9:52, next mile was one minute faster, then I started feeling loosened up. Tried not to look at the garmin much, just looked whenever the next mile beeped to see what I had just done. Two miles in a row were the exact same pace - 8:02.

I just noticed that this is the first Monday I have run this month.

Average pace: 8:12

 Yesterday, I signed up for the Jacksonville Marathon on Dec. 16, so now it is real and the clock is ticking again.

Asics (I need to go back and add this up)

Comments
From Lyman on Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 17:38:35

Congrats on signing up for Jacksonville Marathon. It looks like you are at the tail end of your recovery from Chicago...just in time to start tappering for Jacksonville.

From Mark on Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 09:42:30

I've been feeling pretty well recovered so far. I figure I've got about a month of training that I can do before I have to taper again. It's not a lot of time but hopefully I don't need much time.

From Sasha Pachev on Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 09:47:44

Good work! What exactly is the Y? We have our own Y here in Provo. It is a big letter on a mountain. There is a trail that leads up to it, and running there is quite a workout. About 20% grade average for a mile. Anybody who has been able to run all the way has always been able to run at least 18:40 in a 5 K, and slower runners had to walk some portions, so I figure the effort of running on that trail is at the very least a 6:00 mile.

From Mark on Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 09:05:23

Ahhh, the Y. It's nothing fancy, it's just the YMCA close by my house. It is next to several neighborhoods which are good for running through. Sometimes I meet up with other people there from the running group. There are some good trails for running around here but are very flat. I'd like to try the Provo Y sometime, it sounds very challenging.

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7.170.000.000.000.000.000.007.17

Another good base mileage run.   I woke up just before 6:00, did the usual morning dog care and headed over to the Y.   As usual I warmed up a little bit inside first on the arc trainer and a few minutes on the bike.  I always seem to do a little bit better when I do it this way.  It was a pleasant feeling 70° outside.   I chatted with David for a bit who had already finished his morning run, then I went out for mine.

The first mile was faster than normal for a first mile - 8:36.  The rest of the miles were between 7:50 and 8:15.   So, today's average pace was faster than yesterday's but the mile splits were not as spread out, with the fastest mile slower than yesterday's fastest mile and today's slowest mile faster than yesterday's slowest mile.

Average pace: 8:06 

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7.270.000.000.000.000.000.007.27

Another nice morning for running. There was a slight breeze. The temperature was on the very edge between cool and warm.

Warmed up on the stationary bike, did my run, then finished up with some upper body weights. Left foot (top) started to bother me yesterday, it wasn't any worse today but I'm going to keep an eye on it. I'll wait until next week for a tempo run if it is all cleared up.

Mile splits weren't too spread out today - first mile was slowest at 9:06, some place in the middle was the fastest at 7:47.

Third run alone this week, I'll see if I can meet up with anyone from the 5:30 group tomorrow.

Splits were: 9:06 8:25 8:07 7:47 7:51 7:53 7:43 2:07 for 0.27 (8:05 pace)

Average pace: 8:07

Glycerin

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5.522.000.000.000.000.000.007.52

I'm feeling like I'm back up to speed now with 4 good runs in a row this week. I actually did get up at 5:00 and made it to the Y by 5:30 to try and meet up with some other people. I caught up with David and Jenny and ran with them about a mile and a half. David was just doing a short run today, supposed to get knee MRI results today - good luck David.

So, it was nice to have some company for at least part of the run.

The rest of the run went by pretty smoothly. Today was a bit warmer than yesterday, just warm and humid enough to start feeling uncomfortable but nothing like what it was during the summer.

Problems with my left foot seem to be all cleared up today. 

My splits were: 9:29 8:42 8:38 7:55 7:49 7:26 7:26 and 4:01 for 0.52 (7:45 pace)

Average pace 8:10

Asics

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Non running day today.

Did some cross training consisting of the arc trainer, stationary bike and lower body weights.  About an hour of time spent in the gym. 

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14.020.000.000.000.000.000.0014.02

First cool morning of the year here in Florida.  My definition of cool is that I felt chilly until about one mile into the run when I started to warm up.   Showed up at the Y parking lot just before 6:15.  Joe was there as well as Karen and Regina.

Joe and I got moving, at first at a somewhat slow pace then gradually picked up a little bit faster each mile.  Ran out to the horse farm, a loop through  Grey Oaks, then a slightly roundabout route back to the Y.  Pretty much conversational level most of the way.  Last few miles were just under 8:00 pace.  My legs felt achy now and then, maybe from yesterday morning's weights, but it wasn't anything that slowed me down.

Lots of other runners were there from the Striders group were there this morning.  I didn't have time to stay long and chat as Noah and Andy both had a Tae Kwon Do competition this morning.

Average pace: 8:22

 Brooks

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8.260.000.000.000.000.000.008.26

Even cooler out this morning than Saturday morning but still very pleasant.  I warmed up  inside on the stationary bike first.   Headed outside at a slow pace.  Felt ok at first, like I would shake off my slugishness after 1 mile.  But it turned out that the first 4 miles were tiring.   Started feeling a little bit better after 4 but not great.   Finally, the last mile felt pretty good.   No huge pace pickups, which was ok for what was supposed to be an easy run.

Some of this could have been due to eating junky on Sunday with cake and pizza and other snacks throughout the day for my son's birthday party.   My youngest was up at 2:00 throwing up and is home from school this morning.   What were we thinking?

Went inside and finished up with some lower body weights.   Between the stationary bike warmups and the moderate weight training my knee is approaching 100%.  This is a big relief for me as I was afraid it was going to turn into a degenerative problem. 

Average pace: 8:31 

Asics 


Comments
From Amy on Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 07:47:29

glad to hear your knee is feeling better! at our age :) that is a tricky thing!

I have had the same experience with less good runs after bad eating days - isn't it amazing how eating crappy can affect your running?

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8.061.000.000.000.000.000.009.06

Pretty good run this morning.   Tried doing a little bit more warm up before actually running.   That may have helped a little bit.  It may have also helped that I seem to do better on the second day of running after a day off.  On the negative side I did go out last night with work to dinner for some customers.  I did skip dessert and did not completely stuff myself.

I finally started running just before 7:00.  I decided on an out and back course from the Y to the horse farm.  One of my goals was to try to keep the mile splits from being too spread out.   I did pretty good with the first 7 miles between 8:52 and 8:10.  Picked up the last two miles.  The final mile was at a faster pace for most of it but I was slowed down by a traffic light.

The weather was great outside, a comfortably chilly 51° and nice and sunny.

Average pace: 8:03 

Jenny was all set to start her run when I got home so I biked the kids to school.  This worked out well since she ended up having a great run.

Brooks 

 

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From Amy on Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 06:12:30

It was very nice of you to do that for her - having a supportive husband means so much (and I am speaking from experience here!)

From Mark on Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 10:17:22

Amy, thanks. It definitely works both ways. There is no telling where I would be without Jenny's support.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
5.100.000.003.000.000.000.008.10

I woke up a little bit earlier this morning than the past few mornings, about 5:30.  I wanted to get in a warm up and get to the track early enough so I wouldn't have to worry about being there as the school hours approached - which I'm not exactly sure when that is.  The weather was again near perfect, a little warmer than yesterday, but still very pleasant at 60°

It's been well over a month since I've done any speed work so I wasn't sure what to expect.  I wanted to do 3 1600's at 6:28.  On the first one I started out a little too fast, it felt like a good pace but I was not able to hold it, about a 5:45 pace for almost the first 1/2 lap or so, it slid a little bit and then leveled out.   I finished the first one in exactly 6:28.

Next one went ok, just barely faster at 6:27.  The last one was exactly 6:28.

These weren't as hard as I had remembered, but they weren't easy either.  I felt like I wanted to go faster but at the same time realized it was good to stick to the goal pace (assuming that this was the right goal pace).  I wasn't sure what to make of these results because they are not any faster than the last time I did then, however I've just recently completed my marathon recovery and have not been focusing about speed.  So, I'm not going to worry about it and just be glad that I made my goals.

Cooled down after the track with just under two miles to make sure I got at least 8 in for the day. 

Asics - 440 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
6.312.000.000.000.000.000.008.31

Coldest morning so far this year - 46° at the start of my run.  I'm sure many people might say that is not cold, but for Florida it is definitely cold.  I had woken up at 5:00 sharp this morning hoping to meet up with some others from the running group but there didn't seem to be anyone there at 5:30.   So, I figured I would spend some time indoors warming up and raising my core temperature before hitting the cold.  Did 10 minutes on the stationary bike and 5 minutes on the arc trainer, just enough to feel warmer.

After, the warm up it did not seem so bad outside.  Easy pace first mile, gradual speed up over the next two miles.   Finally felt good for the 5th mile, then continued picking up the pace a bit.  I wasn't expecting too much this morning, just a recovery from yesterday's speed session and getting in more miles.  Overall it turned out pretty good.

Splits were:

9:34, 8:59, 8:30, 8:35, 8:00, 7:43, 7:35, 7:10 and .31 @ 8:05/mile

Average pace: 8:15

Brooks - 298 

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0.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.00

Planned day off from running.

 

Did a little bit over 20 minutes on the stationary bike and then did about 40 minutes worth of upper body weights - just to help balance things out.

Long run tomorrow, easy pace - will get very close to 50 miles for the week.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
14.402.000.000.000.000.000.0016.40

This morning was crisp and cool, as it has been on other mornings this week. Originally I was going to run with Joe, but he was not able to make it. I waited around a little bit and some others showed up. They were not going to run very far but I figured it would be nice to have some company at least part of the way.

We started out running faster than what I am used to for the first few miles. It was actually a pace I would call easy if I was already warmed up. Between the cold weather and the faster starting pace my left shin on the outside got extremely tight as it often does. Bob and I stopped for some gatorade at about 3.75 miles. The short break was good for my shin. Bob headed back towards the Y and I continued on alone in the opposite direction. I slowed the pace until I could get rid of the tightness.

I ran a few miles towards a neighborhood which has a 1 mile loop with hills. I did two loops through there and started feeling better. On the return trip the pace felt much easier - up until I had gone about 13 miles. At that point I started feeling a little bit worn down but not too bad. I continued on and before I knew it I was heading into the home stretch.

Overall the run was a success even though it had a couple of rough patches. I didn't do lower body weights yesterday like I had done the week before, so I don't think that was the problem. I think I will do a short run next Friday and see if that helps.

Splits were: 8:25, 7:53, 8:08, .739@8:44, 9:22, 9:10, .62@9:01, 8:46, 7:52, 8:31, 7:44, 7:43, 7:45, 7:33, 7:56, 7:59, 7:30

Average pace: 8:13 

Glycerin


Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
8.230.000.000.000.000.000.008.23

I had one of my best runs today for an easy run.  Sometimes easy is in name only, and even the slow miles seem hard and the faster miles are not as hard but are faster than planned.

The first couple of miles were only moderately annoying - many times the first few miles are awful but not today.

My splits for today were: 8:50, 8:45, 8:29, 8:11, 8:05, 7:57, 7:52, 7:56, .23 @ 8:49

The weather was perfect, about 55° and sunny after the sun came up which was also nice to watch.  Running has certainly shown me more sunrises than I would have otherwise seen.

Average pace: 8:17

Asics 

Comments
From Amy on Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 05:26:42

Congratulations on having a good run! It is heartening to know that even you have problems with those tough first miles, Mark.

You continue to inspire me!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
9.130.000.000.000.000.000.009.13

This morning when I woke up I had a feeling of complete exhaustion, almost as if something was wrong with me.  But, I went ahead and hoped that it was something I could shake off once I got moving.  I got out the door and made it to they Y for a warm up on the machines inside.  I did a few minutes on the rowing machine for something different and then 10 minutes on the stationary bike to keep my knee on track.

I went outside and realized I had overdressed slightly - it was 60° but I was wearing a long sleeve shirt, but I guess it wasn't too warm for that.

My goal again this morning was to stick with easy miles, get through the warm up miles and then not speed up to "marathon pace" but hold back a little bit.  I was also thinking about doing at least 8 miles,  but when I got to 7 miles it felt like a good day to do 9.

My splits were: 8:31, 8:30, 8:34, 8:03, 7:54, 7:51, 7:52, 7:53, 7:52, and 0.13 @8:43

Average pace: 8:07

The splits were even closer together than yesterday.

Tomorrow I'm going to add in some tempo.

Brooks glycerin.
 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
6.500.005.000.000.000.000.0011.50

I felt good this morning when I woke up , which was a few minutes before the alarm was supposed to go off. I did my usual - let the dogs out, feed the dogs, drink some water, eat a snack. I was at the Y before 6:15. I warmed up on the stationary bike for about 10 minutes then did a little bit of time on the treadmill, speeding up and slowing down for about 5 minutes.

The run plan for today was to do a tempo run of 5 miles at about 7:00 pace, with some easy miles first, and a few easy miles after the tempo, for about 11 miles and 90 minutes total of running.

First few warm up miles were pretty good - 8:52 ,8:43, 8:25, then 0.38 @ 10:54 which included stopping to drop off my drink bottle and loosening up a bit. Then the tempo began

First mile felt pretty good, second mile starting feeling tedious, and all of the sudden my pace dropped off at the beginning of the third mile, but I kicked myself back in gear and made that mile pace ok. 4th mile was better, and I felt good on the 5th mile, either because that was the last mile at tempo or I was fully warmed up.

Tempo miles were: 6:57, 6:51, 6:58, 6:54, 6:47

After the tempo portion I grabbed my drink bottle and was in a slow jog for just over a minute then finished up the easy miles: 8:23, 7:55, 8:09 (and 8:09 pace for a little past the last mile)

So, I made all of my goals. I didn't feel particularly fast and light this morning but that is ok. The 5th tempo mile I did feel like I could have gone faster but I wanted to keep it pretty close to the other miles.

Average pace: 7:52 

Asics

Comments
From Sasha Pachev on Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 14:44:35

Good work!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
7.270.000.000.000.000.000.007.27

I let myself sleep in a little bit this morning to 6:00 since I was planning on fewer miles.  I woke up with a dull ache in my back on the left side about mid way up.  Not anything too bad, just annoying.

I warmed up inside with some time on the rowing machine and stationary bike then headed outside.   Plan was to try and do an easy and consistent pace today.  First mile felt pretty good as far as first miles go.  Second and third miles didn't feel much better, but not too terrible either.  Sometimes, the day after a hard day can feel very easy and relaxed, unfortunately today was not one of those days.  It was nice and cool outside, about the same temp as other morning recently but a little bit of fog had rolled in.   This is good because for most of the past week it was very dry.

Splits for today were: 8:40, 8:20, 8:20, 8:30, 7:55, 8:15, 8:07, 0.27 @ 8:47

Actually, the 7th mile felt pretty good, and was a little bit faster than 8:07 due to the time spent waiting for the traffic light to change.

Brooks 

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0.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.00

Did 20 minutes on the stationary bike, 10 minutes on the rowing machine and then about 30 minutes worth of upper body weights.

 

It would have been a cold morning outside if I was running today.  Tomorrow will probably be cold for my long run so I'm mentally preparing for it now. 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
18.150.000.000.000.000.000.0018.15

It was somewhere between cold and cool this morning.  Starting temp about 42°.  I wore an extra shirt, a skin tight body armour shirt underneath a long sleeve tech shirt.  I met up with Joe at the Y just after 6:30 - I was supposed to be there at 6:30 but was running a few minutes late.  Also started out with gloves and a hat.   Bob was also there this morning.

The three of us started out at a nice easy pace.  It didn't feel that cold anymore after the first mile.  Sometime along the way to the horse farm, Eric caught up with us and then passed us.  We turned around from the horse farm to head back to the Y.  It was nice to run with two other people.  WE were at a conversational pace pretty much the whole way.  After getting back to they Y, I ditched the hat and gloves.  After an un-timed break, Joe, Bob, and I headed back out.  Bob split off from us a little past a mile out as he was doing 12 today.  Joe and I continued on to the horse farm again, turned around and came back.  The pace picked up a little bit here and there but nothing too fast.  The last mile was at 7:41 - although most of it was probably faster but we were caught by a traffic light.

So, nothing fancy, just get the miles in without putting too much stress.  Joe had hurt his back a week and a half ago but is back running.

Average pace: 8:40

When I got home, I went into the pool for about 20 minutes to help loosen up, I felt a lot better after I did that. 

 Brooks glycerin
 

Comments
From amy on Sun, Nov 18, 2007 at 07:53:13

Sounds like you had a great run, although it is hard for me to imagine you Florida guys with hats and gloves on!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
8.180.000.000.000.000.000.008.18

It was a difficult run this morning. I woke up tired and was not able to really shake it off like I usually can do. On the positive side, I got the job done. Anyone can have a good run when they are feeling good, but it takes commitment to run when you don't feel like running.

Tried my usual warm ups, but finally I had to just get going. The weather was very nice outside. I ran about 1.8 miles then stopped to drop off my drink bottle and stretch out a little bit. This helped and got me moving a little bit better. I stopped one more time because I figured that if it helped once it would help again. It did help a little bit and I was able to keep moving. It never got to that easy point, so I just kept going.

Also, I had a lot of new music to listen to.  Jenny had felt sorry for me recently and found a bunch of new songs for me to run with, but after a few miles of running with music this morning I turned it off.  On Saturday I ran with no music, most of it by choice.  When I tried to turn it on with 6 miles left, the ipod was not working.  I might just be getting tired of listening to music while running so I'm going to cut back on that for a while until I enjoy it again. 

Average pace: 8:28 (without counting most of the two stops)

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From Amy on Tue, Nov 20, 2007 at 05:39:12

So true!!! It does take real commitment to run when you don't feel like it! Good for you!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
6.723.000.000.000.000.000.009.72

Today's run felt 10 times better than yesterday's run.  I'm not exactly sure why but I'll take it. 

I did not go to the Y this morning.  I warmed up at home with some stairs, walking and some dynamic stretches. 

I ran from my house on an out and back course.  There is only one problem with this in that there are a couple stretches of busy road without a very big shoulder or sidewalk available but it is not too far.

I started out slowly, gradually picked up and got into a good groove after the first 3 miles.  My splits were: 9:55, 8:51, 8:26, 8:01, 7:38, 7:27, 7:37, 7:31, 7:49, 0.72@7:54

I had planned on 8-9 miles but got in a little bit more since I kind of made up the course as I went along.

I did listen to music today, but only after I warmed up.  It made a nice compliment to the running rather than an annoyance like it was yesterday.   The weather was perfect.

 Average pace: 8:07

Brooks 

Comments
From jtshad on Tue, Nov 20, 2007 at 16:38:08

Great job on the run today, way to run farther than your goal!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
7.050.000.000.000.000.000.007.05

Ran from home again this morning.  I left a little bit later than usual but that was ok since there was nothing pressing to hurry for.  Mile splits ranged between 9:15 and 8:08 with an overall average pace of 8:29.  Weather was great again.  A little bit warmer than yesterday but still very comfortable.

 I wanted to take it easy today since I'll be doing a 5K turkey trot tomorrow, the one mile run with the boys.   Hopefully I can get in at least 6 miles tomorrow.

 Brooks

 

Race: St. Pete Times Turkey Trot 5K (3.1 Miles) 00:20:18
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
2.150.000.003.100.000.000.005.25

This morning was our annual local Turkey trot race.   They have a 5K, 1 mile, and 10K race.  Jenny was doing the 10K, I did the 5K, and then I did the 1 mile race with Noah and Andy.  This year was a record year for registrations with over 16,000 runners between the 3 races, although I'm not sure what the breakdown was.

I got to the starting line and ran a 1.1 mile warm up.  After the warm up I had a pretty good spot close to the front.  Just when the race was about to start they announced a 15 minute delay.  At that point, a lot of people went past the starting line to mill about.  When the race was about to start they all came back to the start.  Because of this I was now about 15 deep from the start.

The race started, there were many slower people at the start, so it was slow going at first and more weaving than I would have liked.  I got the first mile in 6:30, but it was pretty hard fought to get that.   The second mile opened up some more, but I ended up doing that one slower for some reason at 6:35.  This could have either been due to the first mile effort or perhaps from the realization that I was probably not going to be in the top 125.  (They only list the top 125 male and female finishers on the results, this is up from previous year's 100).

The third mile went better.  Lots of people had faded so I continued to pass other runner's one by one.   The third mile also has the biggest hill which usually has slowed me down a lot in the past.  This time I held my pace.  The hill leveled out and then turns into a very slight downhill for the tail end of the third mile.  I hit the third mile in 6:15.  This was my fastest ever 3rd mile for a 5k. 

The last 0.1 mile goes into a stadium, by the time I could see the clock it had just turned to 20:00.  I kept going and thought I finished at 20:12, however I didn't pass under the clock until 20:18.  My wife was watching me as I slowed down just before the finish line.  She said I'll get a roundhouse kick from her if I do that again.

So, it's a 2 second PR.  I'll take it since this was a large race with some hilly terrain but I think I could have done a little bit better.

After the 5K I did the 1 mile with the boys.  We stayed together until the end and Andy got a 8:59 by pulling ahead at the very end Noah came in at 9:06 and I was 1 second behind Noah.  Noah was upset that he didn't beat Andy, but with Noah being 3 years younger than Andy it was quite an accomplishment.   The mile race was also very thick with runner's and lots of walkers at the beginning.

Jenny made a 56:06 for her 10K which she was happy about. 

Comments
From Lyman on Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 13:38:29

Way to go! That was one fast 5k you ran. It appears all that marathon training is getting you some great 5k times.

From MichelleL on Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 15:38:29

Congratulations on the great race! And the fast 3rd mile split. That has got to feel good, especially on Thanksgiving Day. You are inching closer to breaking 20:00!!

From Lybi on Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 19:26:17

Good job! That is a smoking last mile, there. Very respectable. New PR, too--congratulations!

From Mark on Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 09:38:00

Thanks everyone!

Hope you all had a great Thanksgiving :)

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4.200.000.000.000.000.000.004.20

 

Day after Thanksgiving/day after race recovery run and exercise.

Alarm clock set for 6:30, woken up by dog about to throw up at 5:30.

Went to the Y and warmed up inside with just over 10 minutes on stationary bike, a few minutes on the rowing machine and a little bit of time on the treadmill speeding up and slowing down. 

0.66 treadmill

Then I headed outside.  The warm up had gotten me slightly sweaty so I decided to run without my shirt since it was just a plain cotton shirt.  It was on the verge of being too cold to run without a shirt which I realized shortly after starting the run, oh well.  I did not wear the garmin.  I did wear my watch which I tried not to look at.  Checked the distance later on mapmyrun. 

3.54 in 29:22 (8:17 pace)

Went back inside and did an easy full body weight routine.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
16.134.000.000.000.000.000.0020.13

I met up with Joe at 5:45 at the Suncoast pkwy bike trail parking lot, it was slightly chilly but nice (about 55°). The moon was very bright so the normally dark bike trail wasn't too bad. We went pretty slow for the first few miles and gradually picked things up. The first 10 miles we averaged 9:00 pace due to the very slow first few miles (10:15, 9:30, 9:15). As the sun came up it turned into a very beautiful morning outside. Definitely the kind of morning that makes you glad you are out for a run.

Around miles 12 to 14 we did a couple of faster miles, about 7:30 each. We backed off for the next few miles then I said I wanted to finish up the last two miles at marathon pace. So, with two miles left we picked it up. The pace was faster than it felt, that mile was at 7:08. Joe had said that I shouldn't wait for him but he managed to keep up with no problem. He dropped back a couple of times on the last mile but managed to catch up and hang on. I kept at the pace but didn't want to push too hard. Last mile was at 7:13, then we slowed and jogged the rest of the way to the parking lot.

This was one of my best runs in a while. I felt even better on this run than on my last 20 mile run before the Chicago marathon.

Average pace: 8:23

Brooks glycerin

Comments
From Amy on Sun, Nov 25, 2007 at 10:18:10

Sounds like things are going a lot better - I am glad for you!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
7.161.000.000.000.000.000.008.16

It was a pretty good run for a Monday morning.  20 miles on Saturday, pizza and one beer with dinner last night I had my sights set fairly low for this morning.  It was a bit warmer out this morning that it had been recently, about 70°.  I did some of my usual warm ups inside the Y - 10 minutes on the bike, a few minutes on the rowing machine, and a few on the treadmill.

The first mile felt pretty good, not fast, but it didn't feel cloppy or slappy either.   Next mile started to not feel great, but not horrible either.  Then I dropped off my drink bottle at the beginning of the loop I was going to do.  Things felt better after that.  By the 6th mile my pace had picked up naturally.  The 7th mile felt really good, the pace kept creeping up with the same amount of perceived effort.  For the 8th mile I decided that this was not supposed to be a speed day so I backed down a little bit.  

Splits were: 9:05, 8:55, 8:51, 8:10, 8:07, 7:49, 7:24, 8:07, 0.16 @ 8:44

Average pace: 8:20

Asics 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
9.711.000.000.000.000.000.0010.71

Ran from home this morning.  It took me a while to get going from the time I woke up until I actually started running.  It's a lot easier for me to get warmed up by hopping on some sort of cardio machine.

 I finally got moving and started my run, took it easy, the first few miles were slow but not uncomfortable.   At the 5 mile turn around I had picked up a little bit of speed but my left hip was bothering me so I didn't go any faster.  It finally loosened up after a couple miles.  At about 8 miles the sky started getting dark and I was afraid that I would get caught in the rain but it held off (and still has not rained yet).  I was in a pretty good pace for the 8th mile but had to wait a long time to cross SR 54 in the middle of the 9th mile with all the morning traffic.  10th mile was good, then slowed down for the remainder to get back home - taking the long way back around the neighborhood loop.

Splits were: 9:38, 9:02, 8:58, 8:31, 8:27, 8:21, 8:17, 7:32, 8:28, 7:39, 0.71@8:30

Average pace 8:30

Brooks
 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
4.264.000.000.000.000.000.008.26

I started out this morning feeling a little bit tight and maybe sore in a few spots so I didn't have great expectations. However, something happened, I'm not sure what and I had a good run.

First mile was slow but comfortable, then the second mile was faster than usual for a second mile. I tried not to look at the Garmin too much except when it beeped off the mile. The pace felt good and I did not feel like I was forcing the pace.

Splits were: 9:05, 7:57, 7:49, 7:24, 7:29, 7:15, 7:36, 0.26@8:01

Average pace: 7:49

I cooled down inside on the treadmill for a few minutes and then did some leg extensions. I was going to do some more weights but ran out of time.

Today was supposed to just be an "easy" run but I went a little bit faster because I felt good. It wasn't fast enough to be called a tempo run or even a marathon pace run but somewhere in between easy and MP (as far as the overall pace goes). I should have gone slower or faster, but sometimes I guess you just go.
So, not sure if I should do a tempo run or not tomorrow.

Asics.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
5.193.000.000.000.000.000.008.19

Another easy run which actually felt easy.  I hope this trend continues.  I woke up at 6:00, seemed to take forever to get out of the house, then made it to the Y.

10 minutes on stationary bike, 3 minutes on rower, then a few minutes on the treadmill speeding up and slowing down.

It rained heavily last night so it was foggy out this morning with a warmish temp of 70°.  First mile felt pretty good, second mile was good also but was not as fast as yesterday.   Splits were pretty good and the run seemed to go by pretty quickly.

 Splits: 8:44, 8:24, 8:03, 7:55, 7:47, 7:33, 7:35, 7:31, 0.19@8:38

Average pace: 7:57

Brooks 

I carried powerade in my fuel belt and drank that while I ran.  This brought back memories of the Disney marathon.  Powerade claims as one of its benefits that it does not taste too sweet so you won't want to water it down.   But I like sweeter drinks when I'm running.  I remember running during the Disney marathon wondering if they were serving us a sugar free drink!  I know better know but it just goes to show how important it is to practice with your race drink before the race so there aren't any surprises.  Looks like Jacksonville will be serving powerade also.  

Went back inside and did some cool down work on the treadmill, about 5 or 6 minutes or so.  Headed home and then volunteered to bike the kids to school since it feels like I have been seeing them less due to work.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
4.100.000.000.000.000.000.004.10

Mixed cardio, short easy run and some weights.

Ran outside on what measured out to be a 4.1 mile loop. No garmin, no shirt. Slightly cool but warmer than last Friday, foggy out.

I did get some of that tightness in my shin/ankle area that sometimes gets so bad I want to quit but goes away after a few miles.  I had just had two days of not having it at all so was hoping it would maybe go away forever.  It was back this morning but fortunately went away after just over two miles into the run. 

Average pace: 8:05

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
13.522.000.000.000.000.000.0015.52

I was proud of today's run because it was one of those where you have to do something different, something out of the routine.  These always make me feel good once I have finished them.  Jenny was going to run a 5K this morning with two of her friends at 8:00 at Fred Howard park (where the Beach to Bayou 5K was that I ran in April).  She was going to bring the kids with her and then I would meet them at 7:30 so I could watch the kids and cheer her and her friends on.

So, the best plan I could come up with was to run in that area before the 5K.  I had scheduled myself for 16 miles.  I usually don't run in that area and wasn't familiar with the running routes there.  So, I planned out a course as best I could and aimed to get there at 5:00.  Alarm clock at 4:15 wasn't so bad.  I got moving and headed over there arriving just after 5:00.  The gates to the park were locked so I found a school nearby to park at.  Fortunately the moon was pretty bright and there were some street lights on the roads.  Warmed up and stretched a little bit and was on my way.

First mile was 9:36 - it felt faster because it always seems faster when I run in the dark, next 3 miles were right around 9:00.  The 5th mile I was starting to move a little bit faster.  By this time I was on the Pinellas trail - a bike path that used to be railroad tracks.  I came up to a tunnel that went under the road, it was pitch black inside so I attempted to go up and over it at first but that didn't work out, so I went through it and it wasn't too bad except for the middle where it was pretty much pitch black.  So, my initial fear of the tunnel slowed me down a little bit to a 9:20 for the 5th mile.

Kept on going and my pace started feeling better.  I finally passed one runner and then a little bit later a biker.  Just after 7.6 miles,  I turned around.  Since my trip out was a little bit slow I didn't want to count on being faster on the return trip and risk being late for meeting Jenny.   The return trip was faster and it slowly got lighter out.  It was a beautiful morning for running.  I got back to the car just after 7:20.  I didn't quite have my 16 miles but I didn't want to risk being later and I figured I'd still have about the same mileage for the week.

Splits were: 9:36, 9:01, 8:56, 8:58, 9:20, 8:38, 8:06, 8:13, 8:08, 8:13, 8:08, 7:55, 7:51, 7:52, 7:54, 7:36, 7:38, 0.52@8:04 

I met up with Jenny and watched the kids while they played.  Jenny and her friends had a great 5K - it was both of her friends first 5K. 

Comments
From Amy on Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 04:40:52

Brave of you to go through the tunnel, I don't think I could have done that!

From saamijeff on Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 06:14:10

Those last few miles were quality miles. I don't think I would have tried for the 7's on a training easy run. Good job.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
5.433.000.000.000.000.000.008.43

Pretty good Monday morning run. First 2.5 miles were a little bit sloggy but I got the job done. Weather was nice again, low 60's. Did my usual indoor warm up first - 10 mins stationary bike, 3 minutes rower, a few minutes on the treadmill.

Splits were: 9:05, 8:43, 8:35, 8:06, 7:57, 7:28, 7:04, 7:27, .43@8:20

The 7:04 mile didn't feel any faster, so it may have been a garmin glitch I maybe I was just feeling good. Should have kept it a little bit slower, but once you go from feeling slow to feeling good it is hard to resist.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
6.731.000.000.000.000.000.007.73

A good chilly morning run (not cold just chilly, mid 40's).

I ran from home doing one loop through the neighborhood, out to the old road, onto Trinity blvd. for a bit and into Thousand Oaks neighborhood and  back.  Run felt good overall, no complaints today.  This was surprising since I went to bed feeling tired and woke up tired.  The run finally fully woke me up.  Felt like doing more but had to get to work a little bit earlier today than usual.

Splits were: 9:02, 8:35, 8:18, 8:19, 7:52, 7:39, 7:58, 0.73@7:51

Average pace: 8:13 

I wore new shoes today, a pair of Asics gt-2120 which were on sale for only $49.99 

Comments
From Benn on Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 09:35:36

Where could you find the 2120s for only 49.99, Mark? Up here in NY they are cheapest at 74.99. One reason why I've been putting off buying a new pair. If they were available online for cheaper I'd be interested in this.

From Mark on Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 09:38:06

I got them at Dick's Sporting Goods, the sale price was 59.99 and I had a $10 off coupon. I've seen some places online for 59.99 also.

From jtshad on Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 09:56:40

I don't know if you have Sports Authority in your area, but they are on sale (at least here in the NW) for $49.99. The 1120's are only $39.99. These are available online at Sports Authority as well I believe. Good luck.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
5.050.004.000.000.000.000.009.05

Woke up this morning feeling cold and tired.  Made sure to get good and warmed up inside before running outside.  Did the usual bike, rower, treadmill warm up.  This makes the overall run seem like a big production but it helps get me going and has helped me knee tremendously, so as long as I have the time I'll try and stick with it.

Headed outside, started run with a little bit over 2 easy miles which actually felt somewhat easy.  I then ran a 4 mile tempo run.  After reading some tin man articles I thought I'd try 4 X 1 with 1 minute breaks.  I was thinking that the breaks might make it seem easier.  They did not, I didn't feel like moving again after the 1 minute recovery - but I had to, so I did.  He also suggested 5K place + 1 min for the pace, which these are not (although maybe someday!)

So here is what I did:  6:55, 6:55, 7:05, 6:41

The third mile was slower partly due to maneuvering around school buses and garbage trucks at one point.  The last mile always seems to be faster and feels easier. 

Then I cooled down with another 2.5 miles to get back to the parking lot. 

Average pace: 7:49

I can't believe the marathon is less than 2 weeks away now.  I'm feeling the least injured and most ready than I have ever been this close to a marathon.  I have a half marathon on Sunday which I am going to run.  I had signed up for this one before I had signed up for the marathon and originally planned on racing it.  But 1 week is probably not enough recovery time for an all out marathon.  I'm thinking of shooting for planned MP + 15 seconds.   

Brooks 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
0.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.00

I didn't run today.  I wasn't feeling that great - like I am fighting off a cold or something.  I had to catch a flight in the morning.  I could have gotten up at 5:00 or 5:15 and fit in a few miles but decided to not push it since this is supposed to actually be a taper week.    I felt kind of lame not running but overall I think it was a better choice not to run, at least this time.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
7.211.000.000.000.000.000.008.21

I usually do just a short run on Friday's but today I needed to do something a little bit longer to make up for yesterday.  I didn't get to sleep until almost 12:00 due to the business trip so I didn't have very high expectations, get in at least 6 or 7 miles.

The weather was nice.  I had a long sleeve shirt on but could have worn something lighter - I'd be hot by the end of the run.

First mile went ok.  By the end of the second mile the outside of my left shin had gotten really tight so I decided to stop and stretch a bit.   It felt so tight that if I extended out my foot it felt like a muscle was going to snap.  I felt better in a little bit and got moving again.  Still felt tight but slowly loosened up.  Next 5 miles were pretty consistent (except for some delays while crossing two busy streets).  Last 2 miles were faster with the last mile the fastest and feeling the best.

Splits were: 9:00, 8:44, 8:25, 8:52, 8:21, 8:17, 8:02, 7:19, 0.20@9:14

Asics 

Comments
From Amy on Sat, Dec 08, 2007 at 13:39:06

Good luck on the half tomorrow!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
4.000.000.000.000.000.000.004.00

Just a few miles on the treadmill today to keep my legs feeling ready to run.  Also did some warm up on the bike and rowing machine.  Treadmill was mostly at an 8:10 pace with some slower at the beginning and a few small speed bursts just faster than 7:00.

I didn't run first thing this morning because Jenny was doing her 10 miles this morning - her first run ever in the double digits.  

 I'm doing the Holiday Halfathon tomorrow - not racing it but I'm going to try and just have fun and do some of it as quality miles.

(old asics)
 

Comments
From Topher on Sat, Dec 08, 2007 at 19:49:21

Hi, I just found your blog through your wife's. I enjoy reading marathoners' blogs, and noticed your times are about an hour faster than I hope to finish my first one in, so I'll definitely be following your training to pick up some pointer.

Enjoy the sun for those of us shrouded in grey winter here in the Midwest!

Race: Annual Florida Holiday Halfathon (13.1 Miles) 01:37:50, Place overall: 54, Place in age division: 6
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
2.0011.100.000.000.000.000.0013.10

It was a nice day for running. I received an email last night titled "Heat Advisory". I thought "oh, great, here we go again". But it was just the race directors telling everyone that it was going to be a little bit warmer than usual but nothing like Chicago and to make sure to pre-hydrate.

The packet pickup was busier than usual this year, there were at least a couple hundred more preregistered this year than last year, and they had chip timing this year for the first time. There were also a lot of people doing race day registration.

I did about 5 or 6 minutes of warm up, nothing too fast, but not too slow.

The race started a few minutes late, probably due to the registrations.

My plan was to do the first four miles easy than do the rest and planned marathon pace for next week's marathon. A guy I knew said he knew someone who was going to run at about a 7:40 pace, but I didn't know what she looked like. So we ran up to catch up with her. I caught up with her and introduced myself. I guess it was a little bit awkward since we didn't know each other. She said to have a good race, so I figured I'd just keep going. The first mile was 7:19 which was a lot faster than I planned but did not feel hard at all. It usually takes me a while to build up to this pace, but not today.

So, the next few miles continued on, a little bit slower than the first one but faster than my overall planned pace. At about 2.5 miles I thought I could not keep up this pace but I realized that this was just my not fully warmed up body talking.

At four miles was the big bridge - well not that big. It's only 25 feet above the water, but it seems larger. It's the highest "hill" on the course (there are two other pedestrian overpasses later). I don't care for the first 4 miles as much as the rest of the course. I'm not sure why because it is a nice run past a few small beach front communities.

After the bridge, it heads in land for a few miles to the Pinellas trail. It curves around past a small lake before heading onto the trail. The trail is my favorite part of the run.

A little bit after getting on the trail is the second bridge, just before the 7th mile marker.

**** The BEST PART OF THE RACE *****

As I was approaching 8.5 miles I could hear bells. These bells sounded familiar, I had heard them once before back in October. These were cow bells that Tyson chicken was giving away at the Chicago marathon. I could hear the bells first then I could see Jenny, Andy, and Noah along the side of the trail. They had found a cross road to the trail, parked, and were waiting with the bells. Not only did they cheer for me, but they waited as each person that they knew passed by as well as many strangers. Some of the people they saw looked a little down and tired as they approached and then fresh and happy after they passed.

***** back to the rest *******


It stays on the trail until just past 11 miles before turning off and into Taylor park where the finish line is located. The route goes along the sidewalk for a short time before hitting mile 12. Sometime around 6 miles the pace felt really easy compared to what this pace usually feels like. I didn't feel like I was overdoing it so I didn't slow down. When in the full sun it felt almost too hot but fortunately there was plenty of shade.


At 12 miles I thought I would just cruise through the last mile at about a 7:35 pace or so. I wasn't watching my pace and I suppose it was just the way that things worked out that I picked off a few runners. I had thought about just following someone in but they seemed to slow down, so I passed them. As the last mile was finishing I noticed my total time for the first time and realized this whole race was faster than planned (I was thinking I'd run between 1:40 and 1:42). Then, once I could see the finish clock I'd realized I'd be under 1:38.

The miles with parentheses show where the Garmin was short, although the 12th mile the Garmin measured long although I didn't note the time difference. If I hadn't messed with the lap button, I think mile 12 would have evened things out (it did last year).

Splits were: 7:19, (7:22+:09),7:36, 7:28, (7:31+13),7:39, 7:46, 7:22, 7:20, (7:24+07), 7:24, 7:31, 6:51, .13@6:10

As I approached the finish line, I decided I would not stare and focus and the finish but enjoy the moment, look around so you can really see things. Also, I ran through the finish line and slowed down after crossing, rather than before.

I felt like I had plenty left in the tank. And except for the last mile's faster pace, I felt like I could have kept up this pace for the full marathon without any problems. This run also gave me some good drinking practice. I grabbed water or gatorade at all of the stops except for one. At two of them I took water to wash down the gel that I downed just before getting to the aid stations.

*** UPDATE ****

Official results are posted now. I'm actually 6th place instead of 8th place in my age group. They must be using gun time for the official results because my time is posted as 1:37:50 instead of 1:37:42 (which they posted yesterday).

Comments
From Shauna on Sun, Dec 09, 2007 at 15:22:58

Great job! And a big confidence booster, I'm sure, for your marathon next weekend. Good luck!!

From Jenny on Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 07:45:22

Don't forget to change your PR on the sidebar!!

From MichelleL on Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 10:49:36

Congratulations Mark! Must feel good to accidentally PR in a tune up race. This is a good sign for the marathon! Good luck this weekend!

From jtshad on Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 16:29:04

Great job on a fantastic race! Good luck at the Jacksonville marathon!

From Jenny on Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 17:05:10

Thanks for adding us in!

From Amy on Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 05:16:38

Congratulations! It sounds like you had a great race and are well prepared for next week! Good for you!

From cindy on Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 07:00:03

You are a running machine. Good luck on the marathon.

From Mark on Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 09:54:15

Thanks everyone! I'm getting excited about Sunday's marathon, trying not to get nervous :)

From Chris Lauber, RD on Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 22:31:03

Well done Mark. As race director, I really enjoyed reading your blog and your account of the race. Congrats on your PR and good luck in Jacksonville!

From Sasha Pachev on Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 23:08:42

Congratulations on a PR in a training run, and good luck in the marathon. You had a broken image in the page due to blogger.com not liking external image references. I moved the image to FastRunningBlog.Com and fixed up your entry to reference it. Looks like you've lost some weight.

From Mark on Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 17:04:05

Sasha, thanks for the comments, and thank your for fixing up the picture link. I was going to ask you about it but hadn't gotten around to it yet. I'm excited for Jacksonville.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
0.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.00

I didn't run today.  I felt like I could have if I had to, but this week I'm tapering.  I'll probably do a few 6 mile runs at a typical easy run pace, then a short run on Saturday.

I did take 2 dog walks of 1 mile each.  The first one with Sammy, and the second one with Barbie and Chelsea.

As I was writing yesterday's race report I was trying to get in as many facts as possible but not take up too much time.  So, unfortunately I left out the best part of the run.  I've fixed the race report entry. 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
6.000.000.000.000.000.000.006.00

I felt pretty well recovered today which was good.  Decided to do plenty of warm up and make a big production out of it as that seems to make the run itself easier.

Nice weather with the sun just coming up over the horizon as I started.  Did 6 miles with my usual patter of a couple slow miles followed by slightly faster.

I'm going to keep the miles lower this week but keep my pace the same.  I'm going to do a short run on Saturday since that seems to work for me as far as day before a race goes. 

Average pace: 8:16

Asics gt-2120 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
0.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.00

Some light cardio cross training this morning.  20 minutes on bike and 10 minutes on rowing machine.  Finished up with a few sets of arm curls and tricep exercises just to even things out.

Felt like running but didn't.  I'll run tomorrow.

Comments
From cindy on Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 07:37:01

You are starting so sound like me.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
6.160.000.000.000.000.000.006.16

As promised yesterday, I did run today.  But I decided not to make a big production out of it and just ran from home instead.   It was cool and foggy out this morning, almost too cool for shorts and singlet.  This weekend is supposed to be much cooler in Jacksonville which is fine but is also supposed to be windy - which is not so good, oh well.

I did one loop around my neighborhood, then onto Trinity blvd to the next neighborhood where I looped through there and back home.  Kept the pace somewhat consistent.

Splits were: 8:57, 7:59, 8:27, 8:15, 8:14, 7:58, 0.16@8:04

I will do one more run before Sunday.

I've gotten in touch with a friend of a friend who is going to run Jacksonville.  He is also going for a 3:20 and is running with one other guy also trying for 3:20.  These two guys are a little bit faster than me but I think I can stick with them.  Joe will be starting out with us but is only shooting for a 3:30 so he plans on dropping back a bit sometime during the second half. 

Brooks 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
4.000.000.000.000.000.000.004.00

4 mostly easy miles on the treadmill.  After about 1.1 miles I saw my shoe was untied and dangerously hopped off of it without slowing it down first.  That was almost a disaster.  Also did some bike and rowing machine.

Race: Jacksonville Bank Marathon (26.2 Miles) 03:21:24, Place overall: 85, Place in age division: 13
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
0.0026.200.000.000.000.000.0026.20

We really lucked out with the weather today. The reports kept on making it seem worse and worse with tornado warnings, freeze warning and possibility of winds of 20-30 miles per hour and nearly 100% chance of rain at the start.

Somehow, the dire predictions did not come true. The start of the race was about 68° and 90% humidity but barely any wind and the rain had finally stopped. It had been raining for a good part of the night. I had woken up at 1:00, fell back asleep and woke up each hour until 5:00 when I got up. Joe and I found a parking spot about a half mile from the start, so that was pretty much my warm up.

I met up with two guys who were also going for a 3:20 - Pat and Andy.

We set out and got into our pace right away. The first few miles were terrible for me, I was doing all I could to keep up with the other two guys, but I kept hanging on. I often times have this problem, I'm not sure what causes it but I know that it usually gets better eventually. At 11 miles, one of the guys with us dropped off for a bit, he had been fighting a side stitch and could not shake it. We would see him later at one of the loops but he would not be able to catch up again. Pat and I went on. By the half way point I was finally feeling better - we made the half at 1:38:40. At 15 miles I started thinking that I might be able to pull this off. I was surprised to see that I could keep hitting the planned marathon pace or close to it.

At 18 miles, Pat announced 64 minutes to do 8.2 miles. What I really had in my head at this point was keep each mile under 8:00 and I've got my goal. That was not correct. How much under 8:00? It's difficult to do the math, and with cutting things so close that 385 yards at the end would make all the difference. It was tough going but within reach. At 20 miles I decided I needed to focus on getting to 22 miles, then I would take it as 4 1 mile races to beat the clock.

Whenever we went through water stops, Pat would walk and then sprint to catch up. He was very good at this. However, sometime after 21 miles, Pat did not catch up to me. I would be on my own for about the last 5 miles.

I made it to mile 22 and was doing good until about half way through I got a side stitch. It was one I knew I could recover from but it slowed me down, that would be my slowest mile and only mile slower than 8:00, it was an 8:12. Next mile was better at 7:48. With two miles left I should have kicked it into high gear but I did not. It was a little bit uphill and the wind and finally picked up and was coming directly from the north.

At the 25 mile sign the clock said 3:12:xx (xx maybe 29 or something like that). I though, ok I still have a chance. I did kick back into gear but it would not be enough. 7:33 for the last full mile and then the remainder put me over 3:21. The finish line goes on the Bolles school track for about a 1/2 a lap, my watch said 3:20:48 as I got onto the track and the clock was ticking towards 3:21:30 as I ran under it. I knew I started a few seconds after the starting gun but not that late. Final net time was 3:21:24 for the net time - missed BQ by 25 seconds. So many places where I could have gotten those extra seconds.

Every muscle on my legs was aching.  This was different from my last two marathons where mainly my calves felt knotted up and aching.   Jacksonville marathon advertises itself as "flat and fast".   That's not quite true as it is really more like mildly rolling terrain.  It made the course interesting and also helped spread out the wear and tear across all of my leg muscles.  Some people have mentioned before that this is not very nice looking course.  I think they have worked on the routing maybe in the past few years and it is actually quite beautiful most of the way, running under canopies of large live oak tress covered with Spanish moss,  many large beautiful old and new Florida homes, and an occasional view of the St. Johns river or one of its tributaries.

Now I know I can do this pace for a full marathon. I never fell apart or slowed down drastically at any one point. I made it through without any cramping. I also felt the best after finishing than I have after any other marathon. There will be other marathons.

Joe was able to make his BQ time and we had a good ride back home, although we made several stops to get out and stretch.

Comments
From Shauna on Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 00:26:12

Great job, Mark! It sounds like you ran a great race, never hitting the wall or slowing down much. You will continue to get faster, and I bet you will be running Boston in 2008 or 2009!

From Laura on Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 01:30:18

You are my hero Way to go on the Disney Marathon and on the NewPR today. I love Disney bring on the mouse ears and turkey legs any day!

From Amy on Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 04:08:11

Way to go, Mark! What I most admire in you is your positive attitude! Great job and you'll get your BQ soon enough, not to worry!

From Cindy on Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 06:23:55

You did awesome. We are all proud of you.

From andee on Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 09:21:49

Congratulations on a great race!!

From jtshad on Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 10:51:12

Great job on the race...that BQ time is so close you can now taste it, it will come soon based on this performance.

From JeffC on Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 11:10:09

Great race!! Great attitude on just missing the BQ, you will get there, just keep up the good work.

From Ian on Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 11:20:38

Well done, you've knocked over 14 mins off your PR time only 2 months ago. You'll crack the BQ very soon.

From Lybi on Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 11:24:24

Oh man! You run 26.2 MILES and it all come down to 25 seconds! Aaaah! You totally deserve that BQ, you are awesome. You'll probably never run another non-BQ marathon, so I hope you enjoyed it. :)

From Dave Holt on Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 11:49:12

Man, so close. Way to push it right up there. You are just going to keep getting better and better!

From Sasha Pachev on Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 12:32:21

Congratulations on a PR. 31 minute improvement in less than a year is not bad at all. You can try again at Shamrock. I believe that one is actually close to true flat - I've looked at a detailed profile, and I've also seen faster times in the results from consistent runners. Many marathons in the US advertise to be flat and fast, but it is not the case. It is next to impossible to create a sight-seeing course anywhere in the US that is flat, and if it is not flat, and does not have a net downhill, it will not be fast. And most marathon directors are not willing to lay out a course that goes 5 times around a cow field in a small low-altitude valley well shielded from the wind by the mountains to make it fast.

The best course for a BQ, though, is St. George. For the ones in your neck of woods, Country Music may not be bad - it rolls but it is a net downhill.

From katy on Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 13:09:54

Great Job...I definitely see Boston in your future...I'm sure you will get your BQ next time! There is always the ING in Atlanta...

From Brent on Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 21:49:06

Great job, 1,000 commando points the PR and mental toughness. The BQ will soon be yours.

Stay Cool, B of BS Rools out

From Mark on Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 23:16:16

Thank you all very much for the kind words. I'm am very grateful for everyone's support and advice. It was a good race which has taught me a lot. Time to rest a little, get back to training and plan my next step.

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
0.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.00

Today was my birthday. I'm pretty much not sore for the most part from Sunday's race which is very promising. I didn't do too much in the way of exercise today. Got a little bit of a cold but I think I can shake this one quickly.

40 was a good year for running. 3 marathons (my first three) and three marathon PR's (does the first one count as a PR? I don't see why not). 3 5K's and 3 5K PR's and one half marathon which was a half marathon PR.  Also, one 10K - also a PR because it was my first one, but mostly enjoyed it because I got to run with Jenny, and then I won a free pair of shoes!

I hope 41 is just as good or better!

(and that was just my running life, the rest of my life went pretty well also, which I am very thankful for).

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
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A little bit of active recovery today.   Walked one mile in the morning and then walked 1.7 miles in the evening with Sammy (this can be dangerous sometimes but he was a good dog tonight).

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
2.500.000.000.000.000.000.002.50

Decided to brave the treadmill today.  I almost felt like I didn't need much recovery at all after this marathon but figured I should still be careful.

 

I went to the Y this morning.  10 minutes on the bike, 6 minutes on the rowing machine then got onto the treadmill.  Took it easy with an average pace of 8:50 and nothing faster than 8:20.  My calves felt tight when I was done but not nearly as bad as after my first run one week after the Chicago marathon.

If I'm feeling up to it tomorrow I'd like to try maybe 5 or 6 miles. 

Comments
From Sammy on Fri, Dec 21, 2007 at 16:29:27

Hey dad, I've got a good idea...

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
4.990.000.000.000.000.000.004.99

Some easy miles this morning to test things out and get back into the swing of things.  It was cool and overcast this morning.  Good weather still for shorts and short sleeve shirt.  First mile felt surprisingly good.  Kept an easy pace with nothing faster than 8:00.  It was an easy run that actually felt easy.  For the last 0.5 miles I ran with Joe who was out for one of his first runs also.

Average pace: 8:37

Asics gt2120 

Comments
From Amy on Sun, Dec 23, 2007 at 08:39:05

Glad to hear your recovery is coming along so well...and I really like the new picture on your blog!

See you very soon!!!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
5.900.000.000.000.000.000.005.90

Decided it didn't matter how I got my miles in today so I broke it up into three parts.  I started off running with Noah.  We did 1.35 miles at a 10:35 pace.   As we turned the corner back onto our street I said to Noah "home stretch!" and then he took off.   I had to really run this time to catch him.  He was doing about a 7:10 pace for the last tenth of a mile.  Pretty soon he is going to take off and I won't be able to catch him.

 My next volunteer was Andy.  I had to do some bribing.  Also, Andy likes doing things with Dad where his brother doesn't always come along.  But actually we took one more with us - Sammy.  We did 1.4 miles at a 10:21 pace, but with no burst of speed at the end.

Finally I went back out by myself.  Since I was now thoroughly warmed up the pace felt easy.  Did 3.15 miles at 7:55 pace.  Last mile was a little bit slower as my left calf started to knot up slightly but felt ok once I slowed down a little bit.

 

Brooks
 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
6.340.000.000.000.000.000.006.34

Easy miles which actually felt easy this morning. Still easing back into things. I decided to make the usual big production out of my run. 10 minutes on the bike, 5 minutes on the rower. Some static and dynamic stretches.

Calf felt much better today than on Monday. Much of this was due to the wonderful calf and feet massager my family gave to me.

Temperature was great for running, a very comfortable 59° .  iPod shuffle was not working again today.   Must still be on Christmas break.  I'm getting better at running with no music.  This is good practice for WHEN I go to Boston :)

Set out running with a goal of at least 4 miles depending on how things felt, things felt good so I ended up with a bit over 6 miles.

Average pace: 8:11

Asics gt-2120

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
5.261.000.000.000.000.000.006.26

Another easy run that felt easy. I tried my best to reproduce the steps I took before yesterday's run and it seemed to work. I did the same warm up and stretches as yesterday.

I was a little bit faster today than yesterday, but like yesterday I didn't look at my pace until the mile beeped. Once again the weather was nice and there were very few cars to contend with due to schools being out and many people taking time off.

Average pace: 8:01

Brooks - 485

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
4.150.000.000.000.000.000.004.15

Today was planned for just a few miles at an easy pace.  I decided to try and not make a big production out of it and just run from home.  I woke up just after 6:30 and fed the dogs.   Then I found myself dawdling, this happens sometimes when I don't leave the house to go some place else to run.  I caught myself and got myself moving.  I did one loop around the neighborhood on the bike to get warmed up.  It was great weather for running, again about 60°, although the air felt chilly while on the bike.

Then I did a little bit more stretching and started on my run.  Ran with no music.  Even on days when I run with music I like to start of with no music because I can hear myself breathing and this seems to help to settle into a good running rhythm.  I had my garmin but made sure not to look at the pace.  When the first mile beeped I was surprised to see 7:51 for the pace.  I usually can just barely get under a 9:00 pace for the first mile, sometimes it is slower than that.  Thinking maybe it was just a glitch a kept on moving at the same effort.  The next mile was 7:46, then 7:40, and 7:35.  Final 0.15 at 8:10 pace.

Ok, too fast for what was supposed to be an easy run but the effort felt easy so I call these easy miles.   Tomorrow I'll slow down, get in 8 or 9 miles and hopeful run with some others from my running group.

Asics gt-2120 

 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
10.040.000.000.000.000.000.0010.04

I met up with a bunch of the guys at Starkey park this morning at 6:45.  I had not run with such a big group for a while.  We all started out together but some what ahead and some turned around at the 4 mile mark.   I had been planning on 8 or 9, but Keith was doing 10 so I went along with him.  

The pace felt pretty good.  We stopped a couple times briefly, but I kept the clock running.  The beginning of the run was nice and cool but had warmed up a bit on the way back.

The last mile was the fastest at 7:41 but it didn't seem too fast because we maintained the conversation.

Afterwards we spent some time socializing over some coffee and some leftover Christmas cookies that I brought.  We chatted with a guy interested in joining our running group, he was just  starting his taper for the Disney marathon.  Hard to believe it has almost been one year since I ran that one.  It seems a lot longer ago.

Average pace: 8:23 

Brooks - 495 (maybe time to retire these) 

Comments
From Amy on Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 03:26:24

Going by your last few entries, it sounds like your running is going really well!

See you in a bit more than a week!

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
6.060.000.000.000.000.000.006.06

Nice run this morning with some of the same guys I ran with on Saturday.  It was a bit warm at about 71° but with very high humidity.   We went to the same spot as Saturday which was Starkey park at that same time.   I didn't bring my ipod as we weren't going that far and there would be plenty of conversation between the four of us.

There were a few other runners out on the trail including the man with the very well behaved Doberman, they seem to be out there just about every day.

It was an uneventful even paced run.   It was the kind of running that I need to be doing at this point.

 

Asics gt-2120
Average pace: 8:27 

Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTrainer 1 MilesTrainer 2 MilesRacer MilesTotal Distance
1150.96332.5663.7525.450.000.000.001572.72
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