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Location:

Lake Orion,MI,

Member Since:

Dec 28, 2011

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Other

Running Accomplishments:

PRs

16:52 Phillies Charities 5k (2016)

35:52 Beach to Beacon 10k (2015)

58:10 Broad Street 10 Mile (2016)

1:16:02 Philadelphia Rock and Roll Half Marathon (2015)

2:46:54 Philadelphia Marathon (2015)

Personal:

I live in Michigan with my wife, Megan, and our boys, Charlie and Sawyer. I started running in September 2010.

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Miles:This week: 0.00 Month: 57.70 Year: 1986.65
Miles With Megan Lifetime Miles: 613.75
Miles With The Boys Lifetime Miles: 99.90
Nike Zoom Streak LT4 Mr. Pinks Lifetime Miles: 21.60
Saucony ISO Freedom 3 #2 Lifetime Miles: 253.80
Altra Rivera Lifetime Miles: 357.35
Altra Rivera (Dark Blue) Lifetime Miles: 145.10
Saucony Kinvara 13 Lifetime Miles: 465.10
Saucony Endorphin Pro Lifetime Miles: 287.00
Active 88 Boulder Lifetime Miles: 5.00
Saucony Freedom 5 Lifetime Miles: 304.80
Saucony Kinvara 13 #2 Lifetime Miles: 310.95
Saucony Endorphin Pro White Lifetime Miles: 23.40
Kinvara 14 Blue/Grey Lifetime Miles: 64.50
Saucony Ride Teal Lifetime Miles: 23.40
Saucony KInvara 14 Yellow Lifetime Miles: 12.40
Nike XC Flats Lifetime Miles: 4.10
Active 88 Boulder Lifetime Miles: 13.10
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
11.157.000.000.0018.15

AM: Aerobic Builder. Total of 14 miles, averaged 7:10. 7-mile tempo @ 6:28 pace. I wanted something that told me "Jason, it's okay to run high mileage at your level if you don't injure yourself every 3 weeks and it is paying off even if you don't see it." This is faster than anything I ran last spring for my marathon buildup I am pretty sure. I know it is 12 seconds per mile faster than the 6er I did 2 weeks ago and I felt stronger and more relaxed. 6:35, 6:33, 6:29, 6:30, 6:28, 6:23, 6:18. I should have held 6:35 pace and I could have stretched this to 9 or 10, but in time. In time. These are to help my strength for my halfs. As for the next marathon, Boston 2014 will be much faster :)

PM: North side - 4.15 miles, averaged 7:53. Hot.

Signed up for some races, one that was tentative, one that I was planning on, and one I just found out about: the SIA Track Attack 10k, which is run on the Subaru test track (there's a plant even though no one in the town drives anything other than American, bumperless cars or could afford much else). Should be either fun or insanely dull. Either way, it's a workout with a race context.

Saucony Fastwitch Miles: 14.00Saucony Kinvara 2 (2) Miles: 4.15
Weight: 169.80
Comments
From Matt Schreiber on Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 09:35:22 from 66.17.107.219

Fantastic splits Jason. The relaxed part has to be my favorite part about that run.

From Andrea on Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 09:42:42 from 72.37.171.52

Nice tempo! Looking stronger...

From Jake K on Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 10:13:00 from 63.227.21.222

Really good Jason. Take your time getting up to 10... you're already moving quicker on these, by a lot, which shows some big improvement.

From Jason D on Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 10:44:35 from 128.210.82.162

Thanks!

Matt: I couldn't deal with the thought of running 10-12 @ 7:45-8:00, then 4 miles. I had to get moving! I got 1:40 on my feet plus a faster finish and good aerobic effort, so I'm happy.

Jake: Indeed. I probably won't move to 10 this buildup. In fact, I only do 10 tempo for long run + tempo (maybe 2-3 times in a marathon buildup). The plan is to sit in the 7-8 range and let progress emerge. I'm just trying to decide if these should be weekly or bi-weekly (to be alternated with a Vo2 max workout). If weekly, I would alternating my LT workouts and Vo2 max workouts on Wednesdays. I still need my Vo2 max stuff because I know mileage and aerobic tempos aren't enough for someone starting where I did.

From SlowJoe on Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 13:27:38 from 66.69.93.8

Strong stuff Jason, keep it up!

From RileyCook on Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 21:55:09 from 174.52.234.49

Great run!

As far as how often to do them, I think that depends on your strengths and weaknesses. For me aerobic endurance is my weakness so I do these weekly. Speed comes a lot easier and naturally for me so I don't need it as often. I usually do an aerobic builder and then alternate lactate threshold tempos (which often come in race form) and vo2 max.

If you aren't training a system, you're losing it. So make sure to incorporate all three but I would recommend emphasizing the one you struggle with most or the one most related to your goal race.

Keep it up you're looking strong.

From Wesley Hunt on Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 12:04:43 from 74.82.68.162

Very srong training day, Jason. You're close to race ready...did you mention in a subsequent post thay you're racing next week?

From Jason D on Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 14:42:00 from 24.1.80.94

Thanks, Joe. I have the right amount of productive stress right now to make running and my academic stuff work. I may crash by October, but we'll see.

I quite like "If you aren't training a system, you're losing it," Riley. I've got a decent mix of all three workouts, which I started doing more consistently last marathon. I also think a lot of my ability to run harder in the final 5k of my last few half PRs has been long run + MP tempo. I'm worried because I don't have that right now.

Wesley: I am racing in two weeks to see where I am at (Philly RnR half) but the real work is for the November 2, when I want to run a fast half (defined currently as "with as many sub-6 miles as possible"). No marathons until Boston 2014.

From Jason D on Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 15:03:21 from 24.1.80.94

@Wesley: I do have a 4-miler on Monday that I probably mentioned. That's going to be a time trial/race for place effort. Hopefully a 5k PR split on the way.

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