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Location:

Tucson,AZ,USA

Member Since:

Aug 30, 2007

Gender:

Female

Goal Type:

Age Division Winner

Running Accomplishments:

PR's

5K: 21:26 (2005)

4 mile: 28:10 (2005)

10K: 43:33 (2010)

10 mile: 1:13:35 (2009) (1:12:15 split in 1/2 marathon, 2011)

1/2 marathon: 1:34:31 (2011)

marathon: 3:19:15 (2013)

Short-Term Running Goals:

 

3:20 marathon - Eugene Marathon, April 28, 2013 (can I say I really want a sub 3:20? but I will be happy with 3:20-3:23) -- whoohoo!

Some good intermediate races 15K - 1/2 marathon, to gauge my fitness level (done this, hit a 1:34:35 1/2 marathon in March 2013, on a hilly course)

Going after my 10 mile PR in Fall 2013

Maybe some good 10K races after the infernal Arizona summer is over! 




Long-Term Running Goals:

I want to be one of those runners who is still running in their 80s (or 90s?).  You know the ones, who look all grisley and fit?  That is what I would like!  Until then, I just want to work hard and be as fast as I can, for as long as I can.


Personal:

50 year old, trying to defy gravity and time

Used to be faculty at the University of Arizona (biostatistics).  Currently manager of the statistics and data management group for companion diagnostics (biomarkers) at Ventana Medical Systems, Inc. (Roche diagnostics).  We evaluate protein biomarkers that can be used to direct drug therapy that would be most effective based on individual characteristics (personalized medicine).

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Miles:This week: 0.00 Month: 0.00 Year: 0.00
Easy MilesThreshold MilesMarathon Pace MilesTrack speed mileageHill mileageTotal
2.500.000.000.000.002.50

ha ha ha ... 20 mins!  

 I also like blogging a little bit while I am in "recovery" - I have found myself going back to these posts when I have been injured, or recovering after races - seeing "how did I survive this last time" (there is no way I could remember without writing it down!).   I also am in the statistical analysis mode of my race -- trying to figure out *if* I were *ever* to run a marathon again (he he) what would I do better ... so, I looked at the 5 mile average splits (because of the hills the 3 mile splits were a little too variable, the 5 mile splits are much more smooth): 7:32, 7:28, 7:37, 7:36, 7:40  - although I did slow down over the last half of the race, I am not sure that running miles 5 -10 slower would have helped at all (e.g., my normal strategy would have been the opposite splits - with the fastest being the last miles) -- I think I ran the best I could on the day.  It is not my usual "negative split" race strategy, but, it is a marathon, and it was a race ... so, I guess I will just call it done!

Greg is a pretty serious advocate about the recovery cycle after a marathon, I am sure by this weekend I will start to get antsy, right now though, I am happy to take some downtime.  I did not feel at all like running until this AM ... I finally started some gentle rolling and some of my ab and back exercises yeterday.  I am on my way to SF for a business trip tomorrow, it will keep my mind off of my running routine -- it will be nice not to worry about how I am going to fit in all my runs on this trip :)

I wanted to share few tidbits I took away from Lauren Fleshman's talk (she was the guest speaker at the expo).  She is a funny, smart, and very nice person (we use the same ART therapist in Phoenix, and so it was fun to see her in this "mode").  

Her talk consisted of 4 major topics:

1.  Mystery column - this is sort of what Sasha calls "factor X".  No matter how good your training is, no matter how much you watch what you eat, and do everything right, there is always some intangible factor(s) that influence your race/your ability.  Could be something like genetics, could be something immeasureable that influence your performance on the day ... it is a mystery.

2.  Training - everyone has their favorite workouts, the workouts that they like, most likely what they are good at.  It sometimes has to do with your strengths (e.g., some people are really good at short interval workouts really fast, others are better at tempo runs) - sometimes it is just how you are wired (see #1 above).  Lauren made the case that you should focus on those strengths - train to them.   Greg McMillan also advocates this - he structures our workouts so while we sometimes touch on those systems that are not our "favorite" - he tries to make sure that 80% of our workouts for any give target race focus on our strengths.  It could be that people like Galen Rupp - who needed to work on his closing speed to compete at the world level - need to step outside of their comfort zone a little more often (Salazar sent him to work with the sprinters at U of Florida for a season -- it changed his kick a lot); but Lauren believes that even the world class athletes should spend the majority of their time training to their strengths.

3.  Recovery - don't run through injuries, don't be afraid to take the time required to stay healthy.  Learn from your training.  Lauren talked about the fact that she is not a high-mileage runner.  The first time she moved up from 70 mpw she broke her foot.  She convinced herself that it was some sort of fluke.  She recovered, and did the same training again, pushed the mileage again, broke it again.  After a few of these cycles, and a surgery that was pretty bad, she learned to listen to her body and she doesn't push through pain/injury cycle -- and she trains to her strengths (see #2).  Get massages, get treatment before injuries, not just wait until afterward.

4.  Psychologic side to running.  This is a growing area in professional athletics.  It concerns "the little voice" -- you know the one ... the one that tells you the last 1-4 miles that you can't go on, that you need to stop ... the one that, for Lauren, almost paralyzes you before the race even begins.  She told us how after winning her first US championship race (5K) she started to get so nervous before races that running wasn't fun anymore.  Her mind, "the voice",  would worry so much about what could happen ("what if I lose my national title", "what if I am 4th in this race and I don't make the team?") that she would be a mess before the race.  This is also the same voice that you can turn into, "right now I am in 4th - all I have to do is push it this last lap and I will have 3rd" or, "if that woman in 3rd doesn't keep up, I *will* take her".  There are specialists that can help you develop skills to "change the conversation" when the voice sabotages your races.  I have to say that I thought a lot about this during my race.  I have always been pretty good about convincing myself that "if I can do it in training, I can execute the race" - so I do a lot of fast finish runs, I run primarily on my own, so I spend a lot of time thinking "ok, how do I feel right now, what do I need to adjust to run 40 more minutes?", "can I go faster? do I need to slow down?".  But, when things start to hurt, it is so hard to keep the negative thoughts out, and replace them with the positive ... for elite athletes (where the stakes are oh so much higher) - this aspect of their training/racing can make the difference between a big payday, or not.  So, many are turning to experts in sport psychology, and Lauren believes this can make a substantial difference. 

 

There you go ...  it was very entertaining, witty, and fun.  I am sure I did not do it justice, and some of this stuff we all "know" (e.g., especially the injury one :)) - but it is so important, it is worth hearing all the time!

I hope you are all doing well!  Happy Wednesday, Bloggers! 

Comments
From allie on Wed, May 01, 2013 at 09:11:43 from 161.38.221.168

great recap, thanks for sharing. lots of good stuff here. i especially like #2 -- i have a really hard time with tempo runs -- i usually fail and it destroys my confidence. so i turn elsewhere to get the feedback and the faster paced running in -- the 5k!

i'm glad the recovery is going well. enjoy your trip -- no worrying about having to run on the hotel TM!

also, i love that your big goals are scratched off on the side column. check! :)

From Bonnie on Wed, May 01, 2013 at 09:21:24 from 64.119.33.134

I think that the confidence thing is so important! either we have to be ready to maybe not perform as well as we think we could (e.g., recognize it as a training weakness not a personal one ;-)) -- or we should not do those workouts often. There are those who believe the opposite - workouts you don't like are the ones that you are not as good at -- focuses on where you need the more development -- but, personally, there is so much mental about training, that I like the "training to your strengths" better.

From Jake K on Wed, May 01, 2013 at 11:31:05 from 24.2.76.138

That's a great post Bonnie. Excellent recap of Lauren's talk. #2 strikes me as well... funny, Andrea and I had an excellent discussion about that very topic last night, in regards to my own training. While you can't completely neglect your weaknesses, focusing on your strengths really makes training more enjoyable, and sometimes a lot more effective. I'm the opposite of Allie, I LOVE tempo runs. And I can get myself in killer shape by simply doing tempos, some 200s, and weekly long runs. So sometimes instead of trying to re-invent the wheel, just get really good at what your really good at... to a certain extent, doing that will hide your weaknesses. Unless you are in that top 0.00001%, like Rupp, where everyone is the about the same and it really does come down to sprinting the last 60 seconds.

From Bonnie on Wed, May 01, 2013 at 12:07:36 from 74.202.188.254

Variety is nice, it can sometimes give your training a little boost when you feel "stale" -- but, maybe it is just because I am old, I really like the comfort of "what has worked before" ;-)

From Rachelle on Wed, May 01, 2013 at 12:58:59 from 159.212.71.17

Fantastic information Bonnie and I really appreciate you taking the time to write it up and share it with us. Point #2 makes so much sense and yet it's funny how hard we can be on ourselves as runners. I've always had the attitude that we should focus on improving strengths in life rather than worrying about weaknesses - yet when it comes to running I tend to forget this and stress about not reaching certain benchmarks.

I also definitely agree that it is great to keep a log of what you are doing post marathon to refer back to. That is one of the major benefits of the blog in my opinion.

Continue smiling and reveling in your moment of crossing that finish line. Recover well and enjoy your time in SF.

From seeaprilrun on Wed, May 01, 2013 at 17:23:39 from 68.102.189.33

Nice 20 minutes Bonnie! So glad you are taking the time to rest and reflect on your awesome performance. I like #2 as well, long slow mileage is my gig, and it gets me a long way in just about every race distance, I am the type that needs a good aerobic base and lots of push-ups. We are all so different! Keep savoring the day!

From Dan on Wed, May 01, 2013 at 18:35:18 from 24.209.83.20

Way to enjoy the 20 minutes. Thanks for sharing! Like April said, it is interesting how different our bodies react and recover. I could learn from #3, but its not easy. Keep smiling, you earned it :)

From Jackie82 on Wed, May 01, 2013 at 20:48:37 from 67.186.135.246

Thanks for sharing this, Bonnie! I really like #3. It seems like a lot of fun to go out there and see how much mileage you can build, however, not everyone is built the same and like point #2 everyone benefits from different training. These are great lessons for planning the next training cycle!

Nice 20 min run, gotta loosen up those racing legs!

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