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Location:

Snoqualmie,WA,

Member Since:

Jan 31, 2008

Gender:

Female

Goal Type:

Boston Qualifier

Running Accomplishments:

Marathon PR: 4:17 at Portland Marathon, Oct. 2007

5K PR 24:37 2009

10K PR 52:58 2010

Have run 22 marathons to date.

No injuries, ever.   :)

Short-Term Running Goals:

Qualify for Boston (4:05 for my age/gender) - or, perhaps, to use my desire for a BQ as a way to get in the hated speed work so I don't just get slower and slower over the years.  This goal is "under (re)construction" right now, until I figure out whether it is truly what I want. :) 


Long-Term Running Goals:

To continue learning about myself and about running, and to enjoy being a fit, happy runner for life.   To always know why I am running and the best way to get the most (both mentally and physically) out of my runs.  To keep a sense of humor and remain optimistic about myself as a runner.  To enjoy running more and more with every passing year. 

Personal:

Baby boomer generation.  Jogged a little in my 20's and 30's.  Started running seriously in 2002.  Low-carb runner since January 2010. 

I love long runs and cold, cloudy weather.  I don't believe in "junk miles."  I am an optimist.  I adore dark chocolate, fog, my family, and knitting -- not necessarily in that order.  

"As every runner knows, running is about more than just putting one foot in front of the other; it is about our lifestyle and who we are."  -- Joan Benoit Samuelson 


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Brooks ST3 Lifetime Miles: 891.35
Vibram Five Fingers KSO Lifetime Miles: 23.77
Brooks ST3 II Lifetime Miles: 965.17
Lunaracers II Lifetime Miles: 198.23
Mizuno Wave Universe 3 Lifetime Miles: 104.14
Asics Piranha Lifetime Miles: 536.83
RunAmocs (Softstar) Lifetime Miles: 16.23
Piranha II Lifetime Miles: 219.53
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
5.110.004.000.009.11

42F, cloudy, wind 11 mph w/ gusts to 20. Tempo run: 3 E, 4 T on roads and hills (8:55, 8:36, 8:50, 8:49), 2+ E.   20 min. strength work. 

I managed to miss the rain by pure luck. Rain before and rain after, but no rain for me!  42F felt pretty warm. That is the first time we've been over 40 for quite a while.  

The splits aren't great but I have to give myself some credit for the hills and wind.  Even so, I don't believe I was pushing myself as hard as I did on my tempo runs last summer.  The pace without hills/wind today would probably have been 8:40 to 8:45, as opposed to the 8:30 I was shooting for last summer.  Mile 2, the fastest mile, was mostly flat with a bit of downhill for a couple of blocks.

I think I'll be ok relaxing a little on tempo runs for 2 reasons: the slightly slower pace gives me enough breath to make the work focus on lactate threshold more than VO2. In other words, legs more than lungs.  I always felt there was very little difference between my VO2 workouts and my tempo runs last summer, except for the duration of agony.  I liked thinking "this is like a 10K" instead of "this is like a 5K."  

The second reason it seemed like a better pace was that I really can make it through 4 miles without coughing up a lung afterward, and I can even believe that I will work up to longer distances.  I think the continuous tempo run will be better for me.  Last summer I had to break them up when I went over 4 miles.  

Please let me know if my thinking is in error here, blog-buddies.  I don't want to cheat myself. I just want to be more clear about the objectives of these workouts and not see them all as the same torture just dressed up with different names.  :)

Brooks ST3 II Miles: 9.11
Comments
From Dale on Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 12:09:37 from 69.10.215.11

Hudson advocates multiple threshold paces: ~10K, HM, and MP. Plus, your tempo pace ranges are going to change depending on where you are in a training cycle. Plus plus, hills and wind definitely affect tempo paces.

Rather than getting too terribly worked up over pacing, especially early in the training cycle, go by feel. Sounds like the "feel" was about 10K, which sounds about right. As you do more of them, they should get easier at that pace (or your pace should quicken), but let that come to you rather than chasing the times too early. As long as you are worried a bit about cheating yourself, you probably won't :)

From Bonnie on Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 12:09:40 from 64.119.33.134

Great idea Sno. I think most people run tempo runs too hard. My understanding is that they should be between 10K and 1/2 marathon pace. Or, the pace that you could run an hour comfortably hard in ... they are supposed to build stamina, not specific speed. If you feel like coughing up a lung, you are running them too hard. You should finish every workout thinking -- "that was hard, but I could do a couple more". Otherwise, you are taxing your system more than building it ... thats my 2cents anyway. So far, this approach has helped me a lot. I use to hammer my workouts, no matter what the workout I would go as fast as I could. Not only did I not improve my race times, I always felt like crap and didn't enjoy the process of training. Now I keep all my workouts within the range that Greg suggests ... and I feel good, enjoy training, and so far am making more improvements than I ever have ...

good job on the workout!

From Snoqualmie on Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 12:19:52 from 24.18.192.33

Thank you, Dale and Bonnie!! Is it pathetic if you bookmark your own blog? I'm going to want to read this again. :)

From auntieem on Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 13:01:10 from 67.182.145.8

I think doing it by feel is probably the best way, allows you to adjust for terrain, how you feel that day, etc. You are doing great!

From Carolyn in Colorado on Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 13:32:21 from 24.8.167.243

It sounds like you've gotten some good advice and I appreciate their comments as well.

Congratulations on missing the rain. But you like running in rain, don't you?

From april27 on Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 13:34:39 from 99.188.251.180

Cold rain is no fun. Glad you got to miss it. I learn so much from your blog about all this threshold stuff..thanks for asking the questions!

From JD on Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 13:47:19 from 70.96.78.157

Great mileage this week!

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