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Royal Victoria Marathon

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Location:

Snoqualmie,WA,

Member Since:

Jan 31, 2008

Gender:

Female

Goal Type:

Boston Qualifier

Running Accomplishments:

Marathon PR: 4:17 at Portland Marathon, Oct. 2007

5K PR 24:37 2009

10K PR 52:58 2010

Have run 22 marathons to date.

No injuries, ever.   :)

Short-Term Running Goals:

Qualify for Boston (4:05 for my age/gender) - or, perhaps, to use my desire for a BQ as a way to get in the hated speed work so I don't just get slower and slower over the years.  This goal is "under (re)construction" right now, until I figure out whether it is truly what I want. :) 


Long-Term Running Goals:

To continue learning about myself and about running, and to enjoy being a fit, happy runner for life.   To always know why I am running and the best way to get the most (both mentally and physically) out of my runs.  To keep a sense of humor and remain optimistic about myself as a runner.  To enjoy running more and more with every passing year. 

Personal:

Baby boomer generation.  Jogged a little in my 20's and 30's.  Started running seriously in 2002.  Low-carb runner since January 2010. 

I love long runs and cold, cloudy weather.  I don't believe in "junk miles."  I am an optimist.  I adore dark chocolate, fog, my family, and knitting -- not necessarily in that order.  

"As every runner knows, running is about more than just putting one foot in front of the other; it is about our lifestyle and who we are."  -- Joan Benoit Samuelson 


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Race: Royal Victoria Marathon (26.2 Miles) 04:21:48
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Sunshine and low temperatures, and LOTS of hills.  I feel really great about how I ran my race, as confirmed by the intense pain I now have in my legs. ;)   

On Friday, while cruising the expo, I chatted with a few people about the course and attended a talk given by Rod Dixon (amazing runner), during which I became less and less confident about my assessment of the hills.  The following sentence from the website, "The Royal Victoria Marathon is a beautiful, seaside course with lots of mild undulations, but with a maximum elevation change of only 74 feet.," was looking more and more like a marketing department invention, so I signed up for the bus tours.  Marathon bus tours can be depressing and I tend to avoid them.  I am SO glad I took this one.  Hills, hills, hills. Most of them really were quite gentle - though not all! - and I knew they would take a toll.  

While running I counted 5 hills that made me say a bad word, 4 of which had to be run again on the way back to the finish.  But because of the bus tour, I knew what to expect, and adjusted my goals, my effort level and my "state of mind."  I will only say this last thing about the hills - even with all the hill running I do, the hills took their toll... However!  I really could feel the strength from my training.  I passed people on every single hill, even when I slowed down at the end! 

I don't have Garmin mile splits to share, except to say that I was right on target (between 9:00 & 9:20) when I was not climbing a hill, until about mile 18 when things started to hurt. At that point I started clocking 10:00's  and 10:15's.   Before the start, I decided to hit "lap" every time I walked through a water stop (and "lap" again when I started running), and in the last few miles when I had to add some additional walks. So my mile splits will require a lot of math to figure out. But it gives me some data I will be able to use in the future. 

Sorry this is such a disjointed report.  I haven't gone to lunch yet and I keep pausing to chat w/ AuntieEm, who is here in our hotel room.  So fun to see her!  

I had a great time today! The last 5 miles were very difficult and painful (and slow), but I am extremely happy with how I ran today.   This is a gorgeous course, with nice volunteers, and good course support.  The expo was not great, but the speakers were.  I'll come back with splits later if I figure them out...  Off to get food!!  Ouch!  :D

More details about the raceā€¦


The course began on one side of the ornate, palace-like Parliament Building, and wound around through downtown Victoria and the "Inner Harbor" waterfront, eventually coming out towards the shores of the Strait of Juan de Fuca. But just before we arrived at the sea, the course made a detour into Beacon Hill Park, which was absolutely beautiful: huge trees, ponds, fountains, statues, and peacocks (though I only saw them on the bus tour).  We ran two loops in the park (picture eye glasses) and came back out to arrive at the shore of the strait around mile 5.  During this section, I did not look at the Garmin at all, a choice about which I am very pleased.  Now I know exactly what an easy, warm up pace is when I am in the excitement of a marathon race day, and running up and down hills: 9:59, 9:54, 9:45, 9:04, 9:29. 


Next, we ran along the water, downhill into a bay, uphill out of the bay onto a sort of headland, and down again into another small bay. Partway into the bay, the course turns inland to the charming town of Oak Bay.  Here we ran a series of long gradual hills, with a shorter steeper hill at the highest point on the course.  I still felt very strong through here, but I took it easy knowing I would see all these hills in reverse on the return trip.  Oak Bay is a really charming residential area with lots of interesting homes and huge oak trees lining the streets.  We came back to the seaside at about 17K; I don't remember what mile that was, but I was trying to do the conversions in my head (the course was marked in kilometers, Canadian you know) to avoid Garmin gazing.  After a while, I just started thinking in kilometers and subtracting every K marker from 42: OK, almost to the halfway point.  I had the pleasure of seeing the elites on their return, with a young Kenyan far into the lead.   I was still only walking at the water stops, and hitting "lap" before and after walking so that I could know my run paces (not all of these are full miles because of the water stops coming in the middle of miles):  9:29, 9:09, 9:26, 9:14, 9:13, 9:13, 9:17. (Not bad considering the hills!)


Emerging back onto the shoreline, we ran up another hill to a headland, and back down to the actual bay of  "Oak Bay," where the course was noticeably flat for a while! Past a lovely marina and parks. Then we ascended again and ran inland a bit, through a neighborhood of $10+ million homes, inland farther to the turnaround, and then retraced our course back towards Oak Bay.  The turnaround came right after the 23K mark; that's about 14.3, but I miscalculated and thought I was at around mile 16.  So when I glanced at the Garmin to get an idea of how I was doing, I became quite confused. About that time, I was also experiencing some dizziness (this has happened to me in marathons before), so  I pulled back just a little and walked, thinking maybe I was in some kind of trouble.  I soon realized my mistake, felt "stable" again, and kept running. I remember playing a game in this section, to see how many trees I could name. They were so beautiful and huge: oak, sycamore, blue spruce, cedar, and madrona were most common.  The non-walking splits for this section were: 9:29, 9:07, 9:20, 9:26, 9:17, 9:12. 


Eventually we had to return inland and retrace our steps back through Oak Bay village, the high point on the course.  By the time I came back out to the shoreline, I had hit mile 18 and my legs were starting to feel rubbery.  I could tell I was slowing down. Dang.  The course does not return through Beacon Hill Park, however, so the last 5K follow the waterfront around the last headland and back around to the Parliament Building and the Inner Harbor.  I am disappointed that I had to add so many short little walks through here, but at least I was still feeling positive and forcing myself not to let things fall apart too much. Keep moving forward!  My mind dwelt on how lucky I am to have discovered a sport I love and to be able to enjoy it even when I am hurting.  At around 40K I thought I might be hallucinating: there were about a dozen 70+ y.o.  ladies in poodle skirts cheering us on.  A couple of unwelcome short inclines near the finish, and I was finally seeing the finish line!  There was my family.  :)  Last eight miles (in pieces): 9:50, 9:30, 9:51, 10:00, 10:15, 10:15, 10:02, 10:22, 10:43, 10:19


I believe that my legs felt worse at the finish than any other marathon I have run, but the comparison may be biased by that trick the brain plays of not letting us remember the worst.  In any case, I was in a great deal of pain and shaking with weakness.  The volunteers were wonderful. My family was wonderful,  And there was AuntieEm - she was wonderful too!  We all sat on the grass for a few minutes; Mr. Sno had to lower and raise me. Ouch, ouch, ouch!  And I do it - for fun! LOL 


Monday morning...  I slept quite poorly last night, since my sore legs and abs screamed at me every time I moved.  Before bed, we spent some time at the hotel pool and I went back and forth between the hot tub and the relatively cold pool. Perhaps that helped a bit, I don't know. 

I feel great about how I ran and how strong I felt most of the race. I am pretty sure I could have stayed closer to (if not on) my marathon pace if the course had been flat or even less hilly.  That's all right.  I have no regrets. This has been a very happy weekend and a great race experience.  

When I think of how awful I felt before my taper, how discouraged and self-deprecating - I am overjoyed about this experience and all I have learned.  I cannot wait to start running and training again.  I am looking at Newport Marathon for June 5, but honestly - must I wait that long to have another marathon? No!  I cannot.  I'll have a look around at my late-winter, early-spring options and see what might fit.  Many, many thanks  to Sean Sundwall, for getting me stronger with that training plan; I will continue to use those workouts as I pursue my goals.   

Brooks ST3 II Miles: 26.20
Comments
From Bonnie on Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 18:05:45 from 75.164.104.79

GO EAT lunch! Give hugs to Auntiem, Snoflake and Mr. Sno!

Great job Sno!! I am so proud of you. Sounds like a killer course!

From Bonnie on Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 18:11:01 from 75.164.104.79

by the way -- congrats on marathon #19! wow.

From leslie peterson on Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 18:15:38 from 76.23.61.78

GREAT JOB!!!!! What a beautiful place to run, except for the hills!!! Okay, so this was your 19th marathon? I did my 19th last Sat.!!! That was a fast pace to keep up with all the hills, you are so strong!! So what is next on your calendar?

From Dale on Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 18:49:31 from 69.10.215.11

Hills? Really? Everything I'd heard said it was flat. Guess it's the "Pacific Northwest" version of flat, which means....hills! Hey, at least you were able to validate that hill training you've begun!

Good job. Sounds like things went well with your adjusted expectations. Now we just need to find you a nice flat or downhill marathon to run so you can get your sub-4!

From JD on Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 19:02:45 from 209.183.32.43

Congratulations on another well run marathon! It's great that you can feel the strength of your training taking hold.

I'm with Dale - and Utah has lots of flat or downhill marathons to choose from! :-)

From Carolyn in Colorado on Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 19:58:39 from 24.8.167.243

Great job, Snoqualmie! "Mild undulations" really does sound like market-speak. I'm so glad you took the bus tour and adjusted your plan.

How awesome that you were able to maintain your marathon pace when not going uphill and to feel your training take hold. Another training cycle, and watch out #20!

I hope you had a fantastic lunch. You deserve it.

From allie on Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 20:21:58 from 67.177.43.41

great race! way to conquer the hills. it sounds like a beautiful course.

From RAD on Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 20:58:51 from 76.27.12.70

WOW! What a great job on what sounds like a tough course. Marathons I've run have only had one or two hills that have made me want to curse...so 5?!? I'm in awe. So glad you've had a good time and hopefully now you're well fed and rested!!

From april27 on Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 23:55:55 from 99.188.251.180

EWWWW too many hills! But you did great! I would have still been running!

Say hi to SnoFlake, Aunt Em and Mr. Sno!

Oh and why do you say that most marathon tours are torture? I think knowing what you were getting yourself into really helpe dyou plan!

From nicole on Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 00:31:19 from 174.144.142.193

Great job!! Way to go!!

From Mark on Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 09:49:06 from 173.168.88.68

Great job Sno! Good solid effort on a tough course. Must have felt great passing people on all those hills, that's when one really feels good about all the training that leads up to the race.

From auntieem on Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 11:13:34 from 67.182.145.8

Whoo Hoo! After just finishing my first, I am truly in awe of your ability to knock out 19 of these slog fests. Also in awe of your ability to actually eat food right after! Congratulations on a happy race.

From Snoqualmie on Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 12:28:38 from 24.68.238.83

Thank you, all! I just added more details, mostly for my own records but if anyone if thinking about running this beautiful marathon it will give you more of an idea about the course.

Bonnie- I didn't wear my chili pepper (forgot to bring it) but I thought about it. I'm sure that helped! :)

Dale - Jefferey promises me that Newport is flat.

JD - Utah is for skiing. ;)

April - My normal reaction to a bus tour of the course is: OMG, Do I really have to run this far? It always seems farther on a bus than on foot - weird, but thanks Brain. And I like to "discover" the surroundings as I am running so it sort of spoils the adventure to get a preview.

AuntieEm- I can't imagine what you mean by "slog fest!" lol You sprinter, you!

From Carolyn in Colorado on Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 12:37:29 from 24.8.167.243

Thanks for adding more details. I always enjoy reading your race descriptions. 70-year-old ladies in poodle skirts, eh?

If you find another marathon before Newport, will you still do Newport. I am on board for Newport, but if you find something else first, I'll have to see whether it would work for me.

From nicole on Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 12:41:56 from 128.208.244.70

This marathon sounds beautiful! I have never been to Victoria so I definitely need to make the trek. Though marking only in metric, that would drive me crazy! :-) I guess it's nice you get to see a marker way more often?

And make sure to sign up for Newport early, since they only allow 600 or something entrants it always fills up so fast.

From Snoqualmie Ridge Runner on Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 17:23:17 from 71.35.173.10

OH!!! Are you ever going to LOVE the Newport(I'm secretly happy you didn't BQ so I can see you do it in Newport) marathon!

Don't be doing another marathon (officially) until June!! Save up and just absolutely unleash on that baby!!!(figured you would enjoy the exclamation points)

Can you say FLAT and SEA LEVEL and COOL WEATHER and BEAUTIFUL SCENERY - Yes you can, now - Newport just may become my annual marathon.

After running it I was able to drive most of the way home(same day) without much of any soreness issues.

It really is nice down there!

Remember that it is capped at 800 people so make the commitment and jump on board...

From april27 on Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 18:06:05 from 99.188.251.180

Are you going to continue to train with Sean?

From JD on Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 19:13:41 from 209.183.32.43

Geez, now I want to do Newport. A cap at 800 sounds nice!

From Snoqualmie on Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 19:39:03 from 24.68.248.46

Jeff - If I do it right I'll be hobbling.

JD - You need a seaside vacation.

April - I'm sure I will still work w Sean. I see him at club weekly

From auntieem on Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 20:29:22 from 67.182.145.8

JD - yes do Newport. I'm thinking of going.

Did someone say skiing and Utah in the same sentence? I'm raising my hand to get on the bus!

From Sean Sundwall on Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:25:05 from 209.67.107.10

Nice job especially with the pre-race adjustments. Adjusting expectations because of weather or course terrain is one of the hardest things to do because your natural inclination is that you can tough your way through it. So good job resetting expectations.

From Kelli on Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 13:28:08 from 71.219.97.106

I love what you said about the hills---although they are hard and they take their toll, you were strong on them and passed people. Just shows you know what you are doing!!! Great job on yet another marathon, glad you had a good time and hope the recovery is going well!!!

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