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Location:

San Antonio,TX,

Member Since:

Dec 13, 2009

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Other

Running Accomplishments:

5K PR - 18:01 - Nov '14

10K PR - 38:37 (workout) - Oct '14

Half-marathon - 1:22:43 - Jan '14

Marathon - 2:58:43 in Boston! - Apr '13

50 mile - 7:49:30 (2nd) - Nov '15

Short-Term Running Goals:

- Balance

- Run more trails, volunteer, more social running, run with a team

- Race a lot more.  learn.

Race results / possible schedule:

Apr 2 - Hells Hills 25k trail - 4th

Apr 9 - Toughest 'n Texas 20-mile Trail - 2nd

May 7 - Paleface - Trail Marathon - 3rd

May 29 - American Hero road 25k - 2nd

Jun 25 - Pedernales Falls 30k nighttime Trail - 5th (sick)

Jul 16 - Muleshoe Bend 30k nighttime Trail - 3rd

Jul 23-24 - Fossil Valley 9-hour nighttime Trail - 2nd

Aug 6 - Colorado Bend 30k nighttime Trail - 4th

Aug 27 - Reveille Peak 30k nighttime Trail (entered)

Sep 10 - Franklin Mountains 50k (entered - not all-out effort...I hope)

Sep 17 - Lighthouse Hill 20-mile trail (entered)

Sep 24 - J&J 50 mile trail

Long-Term Running Goals:

Compete in a few more ultras without going off course (again)

Sub-18 in a 5k

One.  Good.  Marathon.

Personal:

I started running at age 30, in late 2009.  I have 2 daughters (10 and 8 yrs old).

  

 

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Kinvara 3 - Gray/red Lifetime Miles: 1244.23
1160s Lifetime Miles: 888.70
Saucony A5 Red Lifetime Miles: 565.10
Saucony A6 - Yellow Lifetime Miles: 214.00
Saucony A6 - Red/blue Lifetime Miles: 61.50
NB MT101 Trail Lifetime Miles: 302.00
Fastwitch 6 Red #1 Lifetime Miles: 286.50
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54F, 6:57 AP.  Ran down to my old high school to do mile repeats at their track (never even touched the track while I was actually in high school!)  The goal was 6 x 1600m at 10k pace, with 400m active recoveries.  Bam had 3 x 2 @ 10k pace on my plan, but I didn't think I was ready for that.  Anyway, I figured 5k pace was 6:00 right now, so maybe 6:15 for 10k pace.

Splits: 6:15, 6:15, 6:12, 6:11, 6:10, 6:03.

Recovery laps averaged about 2:15.  Good, solid workout.  In 3 weeks, I might try 4 x 1.5 at the same pace, then see if I can do Bam's sadistic 3 x 2 workout in 6 weeks.  I'm usually lucky if I can do HMP for 3 x 2!  Making progress...

Saucony A5 Miles: 11.20
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Burt on Sun, Dec 01, 2013 at 08:37:38 from 184.98.217.24

It never crossed my mind that you went to high school. Good to know.

From Bam on Sun, Dec 01, 2013 at 10:00:25 from 89.126.28.24

...or, why not try 1x2 miles @ 10k pace and then follow that up with 4x1mile. Then, maybe 2-3 weeks later you could do 2x2 miles with 2x1mile. And then,2-3 weeks later you could do 3x2 miles @10k pace.

I think these are McMillan 10k workouts. Might be prudent to do some shorter stuff @ 5k pace and some threshold pace stuff in the weeks between these sessions.

Great 5k session: 4x1mile off 90 second walk rec - this will pretty much predict your exact 5k time. Then, for a threshold session, you could do 1x20mins @ comfortable-hard pace. This way you are working either side of 10k pace.

Stick at it. Good to see you back at the daily grind.

From Jason D on Sun, Dec 01, 2013 at 10:53:55 from 24.1.80.94

This is a really good session, Joe. I would say 5k is into the 5:5X range at least (if you can knock of a 6:03 as your last repeat of 6, it's probably faster).

3 x 2 miles at honest 10k effort is very difficult when you are running low-6 minute range or faster. The McMillian progression Bam suggests might be good. I don't recommend trying to hit 3 x 2 miles at the same pace you hit today. For some reason I thought that was how training work and I got burned pretty bad :-) (my failed 3 x 2 mile workout this fall)

Just to make this as long as possible... 3 x 2 miles @ 10k pace is very difficult and McMillian gives you that as a "if you can hit these paces, you will be able to run that pace on race day." I think a 3 x 2 mile session is usually LT-LT+

From SlowJoe on Sun, Dec 01, 2013 at 12:53:53 from 66.69.93.8

Burt - In Texas, 2nd grade is high school. You're all done at age 8 and can go work in the oil fields.

Bam - thanks for popping in...I knew if I just clicked my heels 3 times... That's a good suggestion (the 2 + 4x1). I'm actually doing the 4 x 1 @ 5k next week, still trying to somewhat stick to the schedule you emailed me earlier this year, which has over a 3-week cycle: 5k, MP, 3k, HMP, 1-mile, 10k. It's been a little interrupted with a HM race, life schedule, etc, but I'm going to continue it through mid-January.. then focus on Boston.

Jason - thanks - I agree the 6:00/6:15 may be slightly conservative now; I used to use 5:50/6:05 for 5/10k, but might be somewhere in the middle of those now, maybe 5:55/6:10. 3 x 2 is also an LT effort for me too, I think...probably depends on the alignment of the planets, etc.

From allie on Mon, Dec 02, 2013 at 10:21:19 from 97.126.219.219

great workout, joe. super strong finish. keep it up.

'allo, bam.

From Bam on Mon, Dec 02, 2013 at 13:07:45 from 89.126.28.24

Just looked over your blog Joe and I can now see what you're doing...:)

Hows about ya, allie? When ya gonna bust up 2:42?

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