Rob Murphy

how is the knee? Roo and I went up Wire today. It was hard.

It's way better on the trails/snow than it is on the roads/treadmill. I saw two dogs of the Roo variety along the Pipeline and LOVED sloshing through miles of dog-urine snow.

What did you learn about long winter trail runs?

1. That dressing properly is important and not simple. 2. Because the uphill effort in the snow is REALLY strenuous. 3. You should wear a backpack to have options. 4. I need a pair of lightweight, waterproof gloves. 5. That trekking poles probably aren't just for sissies. 6. That I get lonely by myself and really need a training buddy.

7. That Jon Allen should get an engineering job in Utah so I can have some company.

1. Yup. Layers are key. 2. Yup- you wear a lot less climbing than descending, and overdressing leads to sweating leads to later freezing. Shirts with zippers to regulate temps are useful, too- change coverage without removing layers. 3. Or tie a layer around your waist. 4. Or wool gloves. My warmest gloves were wool mittens. On the coldest days, I wore snowboarding goretex mittens (don't underestimate the heat from keeping the fingers together). 6. Or a good podcast to listen to. 7. I would love it- we could have some great conversations.

8. Or Rob Murphy could move back to Greenville.

Yes. I wouldn't have to work today and we could go for a long run.

get some OR mittens. your hands will never be cold again.

sorry, O.R. --> outdoor research.

tons of lightweight/waterproof options. they work so well. i've had cold hand problems since high school (raynauds), but these are awesome even in extreme inversion temps, and not bulky at all.