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December 21, 2024

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Location:

Taylorsville,UT,

Member Since:

Sep 17, 2007

Gender:

Female

Goal Type:

Olympic Trials Qualifier

Running Accomplishments:

2 x Deseret News 10k winner

3 x All-American at BYU (back in the day)

10 x state champion in high school (way back in the day!)

3 x USA team member

Short-Term Running Goals:

I would like to run an Olympic Trials Qualifier in the marathon.

I would also like to run on one more international team before I pack it in!

 Stay healthy!  (My biggest challenge!)

Long-Term Running Goals:

Run my whole life, and then live vicariously through my children. (just kidding) , but I do want to pass on a healthy lifestyle to them.

Help coach East High to a state championship. (hope it doesn't take a lifetime!)

Personal:

I've been running since I was nine.  I'm married to a fellow runner who inspires and supports me.  We have two children:  Cole (4) and Lily (18 mos.)  I help Bill Cobler coach cross country at East High School.

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Taking a bit of a break this week. Plus, I have sick kids. They were nice to wait until after the marathon!

I'm going to write all my thoughts here so I can make some decisions of "What's next?" I absolutely believe I am fit enough to make that OTQ. However, fitness alone doesn't always translate. I need marathon specific training.

I spoke with Paul Pilkington last night ,and I may have him help me out with coaching. I feel like I need someone who can simultaneously rein me in, yet psh me farther . . . if that makes sense. I liked what he was saying about running tempos of 16-18 miles at 12-15 seconds slower than marathon pace to train the body to use its fuel efficiently.

I have been thinking of Grandma's as another shot. Paul suggested I run Chicago. He feels the conditions are more likely to be amenable there. I think weather is always a bit of a crapshoot regardless of where you run. However, I do think that a flat fast course suits my strengths better than a rolling one.

So here's the analysis:

Grandma's:

Pros: It's sooner, which would give me more flexible family time this summer. Plus, I could still have one more shot if it didn't work out. There are usually lots of people going for the OTQ. I would get my own bottles. It's a good course if conditions are good. It's on a Saturday.

Cons: Flying into Duluth is about 800 bucks. It could be hot and humid, which would kill me. Rolling courses don't play to my strengths as much.

Chicago:

Pros: Fast course. It would be easier to train for without worrying about course specific training. I'm a rhythm/track kind of runner. It may suit me better. They give a 2500 dollar time bonus for hitting the standard. I could build mileage and run some shorter spring races. There's lots of races in the summer that can be incorporated into training and provide a little extra money along the way.

Cons: It's expensive. I added up flight, hotel and entry and it was over 1000 dollars. I couldn't use my own bottles. Would I have other OTQ people to pace with? It's on Sunday. Weather might not cooperate. If I didn't get it, that would probably be my last shot.

Then there's other factors. I have to consider my family's sacrifices and my husband's support. It's tough balancing family and trying to get a big running goal. Sometimes I think that chasing this standard is not worth all the investment. But, I'm so close and so capable and this is likely my last competitive Olympic cycle. It's one year of focused training. Then, I would call it good.

So, lots to think about. Thoughts and opinions are appreciated!

Is anyone planning on running Chicago?

Comments
From Rachelle on Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 11:21:16 from 199.190.170.29

So much to think about and I definitely think you have a window of time to make a decision. I 100% agree that you are fit enough to hit the standard, there is no doubt about that. It is easy to rush into decisions after a hard race off of impulse. Make sure you take your time with this one and do what is right for you.

That said I will offer my thoughts and opinions. Grandmas - There is absolutely no reason to fly into Duluth. You can fly into the cities (which is usually ~$400) and then drive to duluth. From what I understand they have a pretty good Elite system and yes the weather can be unpredictable but it is a good qualifying course with a lot of runners going towards the same goal.

Chicago - I don't know much about the course/conditions ect. But I do think a flat course plays to your strengths.

It really comes down to timing in my opinion...does it make sense to ride your current fitness and focus in on Grandma's or take a bit of a break and then refocus? I don't think I'm being very helpful here but I guess the point I want to drive home is that you need to keep on keeping on. I believe in your goals.

From Jake K on Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 11:23:37 from 199.190.170.28

Just a couple logistics comments since I've been to both places...

You can get a flight from SLC to Duluth for ~$500 on Delta... I think one year we got it for ~$450, but that was lucky. Prices tend to drop in Jan/Feb.

Chicago will give you a comped entry, although they don't advertise that fact. I can tell you who to contact if you go that route. You can get a flight on SW for $300-400. There are almost always groups going for the OTQ there, and sometimes they have male pacers for the women's group. The course is definitely fast.

I think there are 5 races that will have significant pace groups with a lot of people going for the qualifiers this year - Houston, Boston, Grandmas, Chicago, CIM. For a fall marathon, Chicago would be my choice (because assuming you made it, you could actually train for the trials!).

From Jon on Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 13:38:57 from 107.203.52.135

Sorry about your rough race. If you don't get coached by Paul, you might want to look at Big Workouts http://fastrunningblog.com/forum/index.php/topic,1076.0.html

They really helped a lot of the guy FRB-ers break out in the marathon 6-8 years ago.

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