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Location:

Eatonville,WA,USA

Member Since:

Nov 01, 2007

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Age Division Winner

Running Accomplishments:

Short-Term Running Goals:

Regain consistency.

Build up slowly and come out strong.

Regain "speed" (relative)

Finish WR50 again.

Improve at Cascade Crest. 

2013 Races:

  • Capital Peak Mega Fat Ass 17M (1/19) - 2:48:48
  • Yakima Skyline Rim 50K (4/21) - 7:16:20
  • Grey Rock 50K (5/13)
  • White River 50M (7/27)
  • Cascade Crest 100M (8/24-25)

 

Long-Term Running Goals:

Find my true running potential, then exceed it.

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Woke up after 11 hrs sleep with headache from yesterday. Obviously needed the rest. Ate a bagel, OJ, banana and waited for the headache to fade. 1 hr before run, took 2 tylenol.

Felt surprisingly good (other than headache) for having raced 10k yesterday. Have never run particularly good long runs on the days after races in the past. Often struggled and other times cut the long run short. Didn't feel like that would be the case today.

Decided to run up and down Scott Turner twice (9 mi round trip 1st time, 8 mi round trip the 2nd). Outbound legs gain about 500 feet elevation total with rolling hills throughout.

Outbound trip felt good, so kept pace relatively fast with loose and easy effort. Outbound avg was 8:17/mi. Hit halfway point in w/ 7:43/mi avg pace (PMP +:32; GMP + :16). Finally shook the headache somewhere near the halfway mark. Drank some powerade at my stash at the halfway point, which was the extent of my rehydration plan.

Second trip outbound, legs started feeling a bit tired....about what I'd expected for the start of the run today, given the race yesterday, so not bad overall. Decided to increase pace/effort for second half, but stay within the easy realm (okay, so maybe moderately/hard easy, but still "easy").

Second outbound trip in about 8:04/mi pace. Still felt pretty good and loose most of the way, but started tiring the last uphill mile. Ran across neighbor walking dog in last mile, asking how far I was going. I replied "13 miles on my way to 17". On my return trip, she called out "I'm proud of how far you're running!" Now, I don't really know this neighbor other than I've seen her driving up/down the road before, so needless to say this anonymous boost helped me stay focused on staying loose and knocking out the miles. Started feeling my leg muscles the last couple of miles, and last mile I started gradually feeling like I was running low on gas (some mild brain fog). 2nd (downhill) return leg was in 7:03/mi.

2nd half pace was 7:33/mi (PMP + 0:22, GMP + 0:06). Overall pace for run was 7:38/mi (PMP + 0:27, GMP + 0:11). Great confidence booster given the 10k race yesterday, how I felt before and after this run, and the aggressive pace. Now I need to sit down and settle on a race strategy for the marathon, and let the taper do it's work, without suffering from the normal stress and self-doubt period I inevitably experience during taper.

I'm thinking I'll keep my mileage a bit higher than normal for the taper, since my last taper felt like I cut too far back and was a bit sluggish the last week. Will see how that works out.  Also put a few long run miles on my new Adrenaline shoes to make sure I had no issues.  I plan to save them now for the marathon...they felt great!

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Comments
From Paul Ivory on Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 19:21:32

Dale, you had an awesome 10K yesterday with great pace times! Goodness with those times for a 10K doesn't it predict a 3:15 marathon?

From Dale on Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 19:26:54

Thanks.

You'd think the times would, but my "equivalent time predictions" have so far fallen apart once I reached marathon distance. For my first, the charts said 3:30, and I wound up w/ 3:48. For my second, the charts said 3:09, but I wound up with 3:19. I seem to have a problem with "the fade", which I'm really trying to work on. Anyway, Seattle's got some late hills, but my 10k time does predict a 3:08, so I'm hoping some even pacing and better carbing on the run will carry the day. We shall see 2 weeks from today...

From Sasha Pachev on Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 12:30:34

Dale - it takes a while before you develop the ability to sustain the pace that your 10 K predicts in the marathon. Note that the conversion tables are developed usually from the performances of runners that have trained at 80+ miles a week for years. So you just need to be patient and take your time. However, as your 10 K speed increases, you will have a bigger cushion in the marathon for a BQ.

From Dale on Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 12:49:13

I wish patience was one of my virtues :) I know I should be happy with how far I've come on running for just 1.5 years now, and really only 1 year with any consistency, but I'm just hungry for more, faster, better.

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