Bret

New York City Marathon

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Location:

Milton,GA,USA

Member Since:

Jul 27, 2010

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Other

Running Accomplishments:

PR's -

Mile - 4:38    (High School)

2 Mile - 10:12 (High School) 

3 mile - 15:51 (High School)

10k - 35:19 (High School)

Marathon - 2:59 marathon (London -2013)

Half marathon - 1:25:18 (Deseret News 2013)

Completed all 6 of the World Marathon Majors 2024

Completed each of the 5 majors (NY, Chicago, Boston, London & Berlin) at least twice.

8 x Boston Marathon (1999, 2000, 2005, 2007, 2014, 2020 (virtual due to covid) 2021, 2022)

13 x NYC Marathon (1997, 1998, 2010, 2011, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2021, 2022, 2023)

 

 

Short-Term Running Goals:

Sub 3 hour marathon

Long-Term Running Goals:

Continue to enjoy running and racing as long as my body permits me.  

Personal:

Old guy - (grandfather even) been running for 40+ years.  

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Miles:This week: 0.00 Month: 91.50 Year: 1815.45
Race: New York City Marathon (26.2 Miles) 03:05:52
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
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So - this was a race about what almost happened... I had decided to approach this race a little differently than my last few marathons, where I have basically tried to run an even pace from start to finish - to hopefully go under 3 hours.  This time I decided to use a strategy where I would put some time in the bank in order to have some cushion in the event of a late fade, which has happened in the last few races. 

In the first mile, it took a minute to get past the start line, and then because of the crowds (47,000 runners this year) another good 600 meters to begin running at a normal pace, which of course is uphill on the Verrazono bridge.  So the first mile was slow at 7:52.  Having met the acquaintance of a woman trying to go sub 3 just before the race, and having never run NY before, she asked if she could try to pace off of me.  Ingrid, from South Africa, was a bit panicked at that first mile, but I told her we'd make it up on the downside of the bridge and the next couple of miles.  Indeed we ran 6:16 the next mile and gradually with some really nice miles in the low 6:30's, found ourselves at around 1:29 at the half or just slightly faster.  Although at times, I felt like the pace was really pushing the envelope for me, I had determined that this would be worth the effort if I could hold out for the full 26.

The 16th mile is a climb over the 59th street bridge and I lost some time there, and Ingrid bade me farewell.  Although my split was slow, I knew I still was ok, and that the ensuing miles would get me back to where I needed to be.  Indeed miles 17 and 18 were 6:44 and 6:48 and at the time, I thought to myself, "I feel good, I should be able to do 6:45's from here on in..no problem."  

Of course I spoke to soon, because the next mile was 7:05 and mile 20 was 7:10 and although mile 21 was 6:58, as I would later find out when I downloaded my Garmin data, my average HR was above my aerobic threshold beginning at mile 18 and I had a couple of miles where my max heart rate was exceeded.  It is probably the reason things got away from me.  I think I actually got dehydrated (I did not use the bathroom for 5 hours after the race is how I have come to that conclusion) which probably pushed up my HR.   Mile 22 was 7:20 and although I tried to get it back together by running smoothly and in control, my split at mile 23 of 7:17 pretty much sealed the deal that I was not going sub 3 on this day.  So, I decided to just try to ease my way back in, hoping to see my wife Tracy, slightly past mile 25 - which happened, and since this was only the second marathon of my 21 races that she's seen, it was really great.   

So, I ended up with a high 3:05 - and though one would think I'd be disappointed, I really was pleased with my effort of trying to execute on that strategy.  In the last 12 months I have run between 3:01 and 3:06 in 4 different races.  For that I am pleased as well. 

PS - Ingrid waited for me at the finish and ran 2:59.45. 

 

 

Comments
From dugco on Sun, Nov 06, 2011 at 19:12:32 from 68.35.221.180

Fine effort, Bret. It was big fun watching your progress online. Nice to see your great attitude, and its cool that you were able to share a few seconds with Tracy and that you helped Ingrid make her goal - very cool.

From Laputka on Sun, Nov 06, 2011 at 19:35:15 from 98.202.142.68

Funny how things are relative. I'm also a mid 40's guy with a recent PR of 3:24. In my opinion, a 3:01 - 3:06 guy is one of the best marathoners in the country. If I were you, I'd also be chasing the sub 3 dragon with all my might. Congratulations and fight on!

From AZDesertmonsoon on Sun, Nov 06, 2011 at 20:25:05 from 63.224.153.115

Nice race report. I've been watching coverage of the marathon. Good luck on hitting that 3 hour goal. It sounds like NY isn't the easiest of marathons to PR on.

From Jon on Sun, Nov 06, 2011 at 20:44:57 from 74.177.82.194

Nice job- when you can finish saying you ran the best you could that day, that's the most you can ask for. Congrats.

From rockness18 on Sun, Nov 06, 2011 at 20:59:58 from 69.183.244.106

Nice run...to get a 3:05 in NY, and an easy 3:05, you're right there for a sub-3.

From Rob Murphy on Sun, Nov 06, 2011 at 23:25:57 from 76.27.122.13

Nice run Bret.

Well, we will just have to boost that aerobic threshold right? I think you will solve this puzzle. In the meantime, hope you guys had a great, irresponsible dinner in NY this evening.

From Mark on Mon, Nov 07, 2011 at 10:18:36 from 24.129.132.78

Great job on the race Bret! Going for it but not making it to me also is more satisfying than setting your sights lower and ending up with the same time. I would definitely take a 3:05, especially in NYC!! Glad to hear that Ingrid made her time, that's awesome.

From allie on Mon, Nov 07, 2011 at 13:12:49 from 161.38.218.168

nice race, bret. i think it's great that you went for it and gave it your all. hope you are enjoying NYC.

From Tara on Mon, Nov 07, 2011 at 13:24:33 from 75.169.159.43

Very nice! I am all about testing different race strategies. WOuld you do it the same over again? I always so no, but why not when the outcome is great?

From JG on Mon, Nov 07, 2011 at 13:37:40 from 71.59.27.33

Great race, running 4 marathons in a year all in the low 3's is awesome & great consistency. I am guessing Ingrid was from Atlanta? I know her & she is an amazing runner who is just starting to realize her potential! Amazing that out of 47,000 runners you would end up running 16 miles with someone I know! lol

You will get your sub 3, keep at it!

From Bret on Mon, Nov 07, 2011 at 15:04:06 from 12.130.118.146

Thanks everyone for the support and encouragement. It was a really nice weekend and a good experience - and a race that I would recommend to anyone considering it.

JG - what a coincidence that you know Ingrid who is indeed the same from Atlanta. I wonder if you were the guy she was telling me about who has increased his mileage to over 80 per week. It was a pleasure meeting and running with her. Be sure to pass along my congrats again to her. Have her join the blog too!

From Rob Murphy on Mon, Nov 07, 2011 at 16:34:19 from 205.127.70.66

That is really an amazing coincidence. We need to get Ingrid on the blog.

From Jacob Flaws on Mon, Nov 07, 2011 at 17:35:34 from 173.29.149.105

Nice Race!!!

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