Bret

December 22, 2024

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Location:

Milton,GA,USA

Member Since:

Jul 27, 2010

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Other

Running Accomplishments:

PR's -

Mile - 4:38    (High School)

2 Mile - 10:12 (High School) 

3 mile - 15:51 (High School)

10k - 35:19 (High School)

Marathon - 2:59 marathon (London -2013)

Half marathon - 1:25:18 (Deseret News 2013)

Completed all 6 of the World Marathon Majors 2024

Completed each of the 5 majors (NY, Chicago, Boston, London & Berlin) at least twice.

8 x Boston Marathon (1999, 2000, 2005, 2007, 2014, 2020 (virtual due to covid) 2021, 2022)

13 x NYC Marathon (1997, 1998, 2010, 2011, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2021, 2022, 2023)

 

 

Short-Term Running Goals:

Sub 3 hour marathon

Long-Term Running Goals:

Continue to enjoy running and racing as long as my body permits me.  

Personal:

Old guy - (grandfather even) been running for 40+ years.  

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Miles:This week: 0.00 Month: 91.50 Year: 1815.45
Tue, Aug 06, 2013
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
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AM - so I am reasonably certain that I have tendinitis (osteitis pubis) or a sports hernia -because I awoke from sleep last night due to pain in that area. (So I did not run this morning.)  The question is what to do about it.  As with most of my injuries, I am not ready to stop training yet. It is at times painful but not debilitating - It is definitely a nuisance and chronic and at times more limiting than at others.  Thinking a course of more pointed strengthening exercises of the abs and adductors along with stretching active release for a while until it gets better ....or much worse.

  

 Noon - so of course I went out for an easy run at lunch and though I was a little tight, it was a pretty decent run - though not completely normal or good.  6 miles.  Nice day.

 

PM - tried to drive to a nearby town to use an Alter-G treadmill - but I left the office late and got stuck in traffic and the place was closed by the time I got there.  Drove back to the hotel and did 7.5 miles on the treadmill there.  First mile or so was tight, but the rest was ok.   

 

Comments
From Jake K on Tue, Aug 06, 2013 at 11:56:35 from 67.177.11.154

If it really is a sports hernia, you need to proceed with caution. Look at what happened to Andrea!

Diagnosis is usually process of elimination, but there are basically two guys in the country who specialize is that injury - Meyers in Philly and Brown in Fremont CA.

From Bret on Tue, Aug 06, 2013 at 12:01:09 from 96.45.118.12

I know! I have been looking through Andrea's blog over the last year to see what she went through. Was there anything she would have done differently? Like see one of those doctors sooner?

From Jake K on Tue, Aug 06, 2013 at 12:02:34 from 67.177.11.154

I'll let her chime in. In hindsight, yes maybe seeing a specialist sooner would have sped things up, but at the same time - no one wants to resort to surgery until all other options have been tried. And she tried EVERYTHING.

From Rob Murphy on Tue, Aug 06, 2013 at 12:18:49 from 24.10.249.165

Bummer. Hope you're wrong.

From Andrea on Tue, Aug 06, 2013 at 12:25:59 from 72.37.171.52

I sure hope you don't have a sports hernia!

I have a few items that have really helped in my recovery (and are the same for a conservative approach).

#1 Strain-counterstrain position for psoas, lay on back with feet up >90 degrees angled towards injured side until you feel the muscle relaxed and hold for 90 seconds: http://goo.gl/XJhRxg

#2 Psoas inhibition, The patient lies supine in hook lying and is instructed to dorsiflex at the ankle and push through their quadriceps as if to gently slide up the mat. The challenge is to contract the quadriceps without activating the hamstrings. If done correctly, the tibialis anterior and quadriceps are activated, while the hamstrings and psoas are inhibited: http://goo.gl/6EqADV

#3 Straight leg raise

#4 External hip rotation strengthening: http://goo.gl/BnycHq

#5 Gluteus maximus isolation exercises, make sure glute fires first then hamstring: http://goo.gl/jv4c84

These are the ones that I have seen the best results. I do the inhibition and the positional release at least 3x a day.

The psoas stretching has always caused me more pain b/c it exacerbated an anterior rotation of the pelvis and pulling on the psoas and groin. Helpful for some if that's not a problem but I would just be careful.

Anyway, might be worth trying for you!

From Bret on Tue, Aug 06, 2013 at 12:32:34 from 96.45.118.12

Thanks Andrea - my pain is generally bilateral - with lots of referred pain in changing locations. Mind if I PM you later to get some additional advice on this?

From Andrea on Tue, Aug 06, 2013 at 12:34:00 from 72.37.171.52

Yup just email me!

From Jason D on Wed, Aug 07, 2013 at 20:24:54 from 24.1.80.94

Best wishes, Bret.

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