overtaking haynes

M.I.T developmental track meet

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Location:

Redding,CT,USA

Member Since:

May 11, 2008

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Local Elite

Running Accomplishments:

1M: 4:57.9 (May 21, 2008)

5k: 17:45 (2008)

5M: 29:11 (2008)

1/2 marathon: 1:24:38 (2005, 2008)

Grand Canyon Rim to Rim to Rim 50+ miles (2005)

50M trail race 11:12 (2005) san juan solstice 6th place

50M trail race Zane Grey Highline trail race (2006)

52M trail race bighorn trail run (2006)

Wapack 50 (2007) 2nd place

Goretex Transalpine run finisher 8 day stage race (2007)

laugavegur ultramarathon (2008) in iceland (55km) 7th place

mount mitchell challenge 40m trail race 2009 10th place
Ironman 11:37 (2001) Ironman lake placid

Easily beating Haynes by 8:45+ in back to back trail races over 12 miles! (2008) and also the marathon by less than 1 sec :)

Mohawk Hudson River Marathon 2:57:53 (2008)

Short-Term Running Goals:

Sub 2:50 marathon

Sub 1:20 half marathon

Sub 17 minute 5k


Long-Term Running Goals:

Have the courage to enter and finish a 100 mile trail race.

Sub 2:40 marathon! but i can't say i expect to ever run that fast.

Win any race with over 100 entrants in it.

Personal:

Triple majored in chemical physics, philosophy, and biology.

PhD in biomedical science

Was doing aging research but for now switching to chemistry and am planning to write a science fiction novel.

First year I have trained properly, 2nd year of being serious about running.

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Race: M.I.T developmental track meet (1 Miles) 00:04:57, Place overall: 2, Place in age division: 2
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
1.500.000.001.002.50

Today could very easily have started one of the worst days of my life although for some reason i didn't really care. The story doesn't matter but unjustly and unexpectedly my ex-boss forced me to leave the lab and turn in my computer with my life and data and everything on it. As you can imagine that was pretty upsetting and having to deal with what is going to go down is not going to be all that nice. All of this occurred without warning only 1 hr before Haynes and I were planning on leaving for the mile race up in Boston (~1hr+) away. 

 There had been some chance of rain the day before according to weather.com so i was nervous that it would slow down my time. Haynes said he thought rain was 4 sec in a mile but i disagree. The sky was a clean blue on the drive up there. About 20 min before the race, the rain started pouring, getting my racing flats soaked, and not only that gusts of 40mph winds started. Keep in mind that my primary running goal since h.s. until i had all but given up was to break the 5 min mile. I knew I was properly trained for it, but could the elements prevent me from doing it. Haynes and I just drove 1.5hrs up here for this? Luckily the rain and wind stopped minutes before the race. The track was completely soaked though. 

 I was going to go through with this...

The meet was immediately sketchy as we started on the wrong side of the track with no mile marker. The race directors just kind of guessed but that was too sketchy and I wanted there to be no doubt that i could break a 5 min mile. We luckily found a measuring tape and measured out the extra 9 meters.

The gun went off with no warning and before i expected. We were off. I was purposely in pole position. No one looked all that fast at the meet so I led, knowing that if Haynes led, the speed would be much too fast. I felt nervous the entire first lap. Went through the 409meters in 74.7, about a 73 sec 400. No pain, surprised I wasn't challenged. The second lap I still felt nervous...the track was soaked and i was splattering Haynes who was behind me, I didn't know who else but I noticed one less pair of feet behind me as I went through the first 200 of the second lap. I came through the half way point in 2:28, still felt fine, and nervous but by the start of the 3rd lap, i began to lose the nerves, i think due to fatigue. I kept thinking, when is Haynes going to pass me. He is using me for drafting...just like last time in the 5 mile race. Haynes made a surge with about 600meters to go. This was welcomed as I now had something to focus on. I thought maybe I can hang on with him. This wouldn't be the case. Although Haynes claimed that the pace was lagging, it was not. My first 3 laps were quite consistent and lap 3 was 73.4 sec. I came through with 1 lap to go in 3:41! All I kept thinking was how much slower I could go and make my goal. Haynes was at that point 1 or 2 sec ahead of me. It was weird the uncomfortable feeling and anxiousness. I began feeling the lactic acid in my arms for the first time when Haynes passed me but it came and went. Why the arms? 

I felt like I was tanking it the last lap and was concerned that somehow i would lock up  and fail. I wasn't that pleased with my effort although could I have gone faster, who knows? Last lap was a 76+ and I came through in 4:57, 5 sec behind Haynes.

 I noticed a previous comment in his blog about how he was getting good at beating me...I did beat him by 3 min and 20 sec in the 14.4 mile trail race on sunday! In 3 trail races I have about 20 min on him while he has about 1 minute on me in 6 road races. Oh well! I guess he has a more loyal fan base than me. He's a great guy and deserves it.  

 I wonder how fast we both could have gone in ideal conditions. I think my fitness would max me out at 4:54 if everything was perfect. Tapering especially. racing the 3rd day after a 2hr trail race is surely not ideal. Nor were wet feet.  

I had a picture taken of me immediately before and after the mile. Wish i had a computer to look at it. I wish i had a video so I could see what it looked like to break the 5 min mile. I have no idea how pathetic or not pathetic my running form looks. Maybe i'll run it again but if i don't stop here, when will it stop? 

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Comments
From josse on Thu, May 22, 2008 at 11:19:01

I think beating him in the trail race is way bigger than the mile. You need to let him lead and try overtaking him next time. There is an advantage to that. Wait until the marathon, then the true test will begin and remember patiences pay off. He can be minutes ahead at half way or even 18 and you can still catch up and overtake him.

Great job on breaking 5 in the mile! You can die a happy man:) Keep up the good running. I get a kick out of reading the two of your blogs.

From josse on Thu, May 22, 2008 at 11:19:45

Is that your pic on the magazine?

From matt on Thu, May 22, 2008 at 11:31:03

thanks for believing that i'm a better overall runner than Haynes :)

Yeah that was a picture of me from 2005 when me and a couple of friends ran the rim to rim to rim in the grand canyon in march.

From josse on Thu, May 22, 2008 at 11:32:19

I have ran GC rim to rim. It was so much fun. I would love to go do it again. Although I don't know if I could make it rim to rim to rim.

From haynes on Thu, May 22, 2008 at 13:59:41

Why does everyone think that the marathon is the ultimate in running? Its not even the best test of any physiologic system. The 5k is the ultimate test of VO2max (really a slightly shorter race might be a better judge as you can only sustain vo2max pace for around 10 minutes) while the 10 miler or half marathon is the best test of lactate threshold. The marathon depends much more on overall metabolism (energy storage and use).

But anyway, matt is obviously a much better endurance athlete than I am. If that is what you think is important (which most of the running community does) then he is the better runner.

From Sasha Pachev on Thu, May 22, 2008 at 14:33:28

Congratulations on a mile PR. This shows you have some speed. Good enough for about 2:40 in the marathon, maybe even 2:35 if that really all you can do in the mile.

Haynes, Matt - the question of a better runner should be left up to racing. If you beat somebody in a race you were a better runner that day in those conditions on that course for that distance. Things could very well be different another day on another course and another distance as you have observed. Each runner gets to have his glory day sometimes if he works, and a lot more bummer days on his way to glory.

But there is little joy to be found in just running better than somebody else unless he represents a challenging and not easily changing standard of some kind. When you beat him, you feel joy. Not so much because you ended up ahead, but more so because you were able to reach a certain difficult level of performance. That also means that some days in spite of your best efforts to win you will be there to set the standard to add meaning to somebody else's victory so he can experience a greater measure of joy.

From josse on Thu, May 22, 2008 at 16:29:11

I wasn't saying that the marathon is the ultimant endurance event. I was really just trying to get the two of you going. But I think that is already there with out me saying anything. The only reason I noticed that he had beat you in races is because he so proudly has it diplayed in his running accomplishments. Really the marathon does all just depend on the day and who runs alittle bit smarter (if your trained the same). So make sure your head is on straight and your shoes are not backwards.

From Jon on Sat, May 24, 2008 at 13:19:11

Congrats on the PR!

Is that you on the magazine? If so, was that in the Rocky Mountains? It would be funny if they had a RI picture in a RM magazine.

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