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Hogsback Half Marathon

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Location:

Redding,CT,USA

Member Since:

May 11, 2008

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Local Elite

Running Accomplishments:

1M: 4:57.9 (May 21, 2008)

5k: 17:45 (2008)

5M: 29:11 (2008)

1/2 marathon: 1:24:38 (2005, 2008)

Grand Canyon Rim to Rim to Rim 50+ miles (2005)

50M trail race 11:12 (2005) san juan solstice 6th place

50M trail race Zane Grey Highline trail race (2006)

52M trail race bighorn trail run (2006)

Wapack 50 (2007) 2nd place

Goretex Transalpine run finisher 8 day stage race (2007)

laugavegur ultramarathon (2008) in iceland (55km) 7th place

mount mitchell challenge 40m trail race 2009 10th place
Ironman 11:37 (2001) Ironman lake placid

Easily beating Haynes by 8:45+ in back to back trail races over 12 miles! (2008) and also the marathon by less than 1 sec :)

Mohawk Hudson River Marathon 2:57:53 (2008)

Short-Term Running Goals:

Sub 2:50 marathon

Sub 1:20 half marathon

Sub 17 minute 5k


Long-Term Running Goals:

Have the courage to enter and finish a 100 mile trail race.

Sub 2:40 marathon! but i can't say i expect to ever run that fast.

Win any race with over 100 entrants in it.

Personal:

Triple majored in chemical physics, philosophy, and biology.

PhD in biomedical science

Was doing aging research but for now switching to chemistry and am planning to write a science fiction novel.

First year I have trained properly, 2nd year of being serious about running.

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Race: Hogsback Half Marathon (13.1 Miles) 01:24:38, Place overall: 5
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
1.500.0013.100.0014.60

This race was supposed to be very fast according to the website. I originally thought to my surprise that there was only a net 100ft of elevation gain total but it was instead a net 100ft loss which really doesn't mean anything on a rolling hilly course. The hills weren't substantial, there were no big climbs but the course never did seem flat. I was really hoping for a 1:23 since i thought i was in better shape than in '05 when i didn't even have racing flats. I did however come from training in CO to sea level with lots of long tempo runs and the extra oxygen probably helped me a lot. 

Haynes was there and i really didn't want to lose to him by more than a minute. His track workouts he has been posted have seemed very strong and i thought he might run a ridiculous time. Haynes already posted a good race report so i'll just say that i felt tight holding 6:15 pace for the first several miles. Not sure why my hamstrings were tight...after about mile 8 i started to not be too happy....i held on till mile 10, it was funny to pass the parking lot of a state park where i had a trail race earlier in the year...that was unexpected. Came through 10 miles in 1:03:55 with Haynes holding an even pace till then.  i needed to pull through in 20:04 for my goal time but only mustered a miserable 20:43 for the final 5k. The last mile had a miserable hill. It was odd how there was no pain anymore after mile 10, i simply was shut down. Haynes maintained his pace very well and beat me by about a minute.

 The one depressing thing was that i found a 40yr old woman ran about 5 sec faster than me last year and went on 2 weeks later only to run a 3:02 marathon. i'm hoping the marathon course i'm doing is faster. I also hope that my body is more suited for maintaining paces not close to my threshold pace of 6:10. I'm wondering whether it's best to go out in 6:45 and try to hold on or closer to 6:50....

 

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Comments
From rockness18 on Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 17:48:15

Hey, nice run. I was there and also found it to be more difficult than advertised. You guys were visible for me until about mile 6...except you all looked much more under control. Haynes mentioned the observation of running with the river for the first half (slight downhill) vs. up the river on the second half. That last hill was a bear! Good luck in Falmouth.

From haynes on Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 17:48:55

I watched the berlin marathon online and they talked a lot about how all of the world record marathons have been in slightly negative splits and it seems to be the best strategy.

Don't worry about that woman. Mcmillan is much more conservative than daniels and he puts you at 2:58:30. My prediction is right around 2:59. I am still your coach right? I didn't think 1:23 was in the cards for you. But I do think that sub 3 is (but not by much). Focus on your taper. Don't drop the workouts, but scale them back a little bit. Last workout should be on tuesday of next week probably. Do some striders at the end of some of your runs. Stretch. Don't overeat until the day before (I think a carbo lunch and normal dinner is best, but carbo dinner is fine too). Do these things and I think you should be fine. Of course I'll be there to coach you through the race as well, lol.

From bedoukian on Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 21:30:48

you'll always be my coach! Haynes forever!

I'm going to mostly follow the pfitzinger book for the last 2 weeks. He suggests for the 70mpw plan of doing 46 miles this week and then 30 in the 6 days before the marathon. He has one Vo2 max workout next week which i'll do 3x1 mile at 5k pace, 2 min rest. And also LOTS of striders. i'm going to cut down on the food intake for sure!

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