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Location:

Bliss,ID,USA

Member Since:

Jan 04, 2010

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Recover From Injury

Running Accomplishments:

In late 2008 I decided I needed to get in better shape and started running again.  I ran my first formal road race ever, a half marathon, in late 2009.

(unofficial) Track 1 Mile - 7:32 (4/24/2010)  6:56 (9/27/2010)

5k - 27:31 - Riverview Run on 06/11/2010
22:39 - Gatorade Steelers 5k on 09/04/2010

10k - 50:43 - Riverside Run on 04/10/2010

Half - 2:02:58 - Just a Short Run on 03/27/2010
1:51:47 - IKEA Montour Trail Half on 09/11/2010

Short-Term Running Goals:

2011 Races:

Sept 25 - The Great Race 10k (59:15)
Nov 5 - Dirt Monster 5mi (52:59)

2012 Races:

June 8 - Riverside 5k  (27:49)
Sept 2 - Gatorade Steelers 5k (route) with Steve!  (27:39)
Sept 30 - The Great Race 10k (route)  (53:48)
Nov 3 - The Dirt Monster 5mi (52:55)

2013 Races:

May - Pittsburgh Marathon (started, but DNF about the half way point)
June - Riverview 5k  - Bummed I missed signing up for this one. It's one of my favorites!
Sept - Gatorade/Steelers 5k. (Signed up!)
Sept - IKEA Montour Trail Half  (prob not, but leaving it on here)
Sept - The Great Race 10k (My Running 101 goal race)
Nov - Dirt Monster 5mi (Gotta do it again no matter what!)

Long-Term Running Goals:

Finish recovering from my injuries and build mileage.  That is all.

Personal:

My name is Wes, I'm married with two wonderful children. The nickname BaldNSpicy came from the fact that I have been balding for a (long) while now and spicy for my love of very spicy foods (Thai and extremely hot wings are my favorites).  If eating doesn't bring me near tears and leave me sweating, it's not worth eating.  :-)

Oh, and I'm also known for my doorags.

Favorite Quotes:

"Running without hills is like motorcycling without corners." - rAtTLeTrAp

"Excellence is not a singular act, but a habit.  You are what you do repeatedly." - Shaquille O'Neal

"A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else."  - John Burroughs

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NB 758s #2 Lifetime Miles: 596.90
Brooks Cascadia 7 Lifetime Miles: 165.17
Slow milesFast milesTotal Distance
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I was reading a running book and it talked about assessing your current level of fitness/raceability.  The idea behind it is to do an assessment every 4 weeks or so.  You take your current HM pace, run 20-30 min at that pace after a thorough warm up, and note your HR for that pace at that time.  The idea is that over a 3-4 week period, with consistent training, you should be able to run at the same HR but at a faster speed.  I understand this to be HR based training, but the twist on this is that you only do this once a month or even every 6 weeks.  The rest of the training time is spent at certain paces.  So, you don't base your workouts on HR, just in the assessment.  So, I should be able to take my results from today and in 4-6 weeks, do another assessment and have it show me running at the same HR, but at a faster pace.  This way, I know my body is becoming more fit, etc. 

So, I went to the track today, warmed up for about .5 mi, then ran for about 20 mins, targeting 9:15 or so for my pace.  I was faster than I probably should have been (avg 8:55 pace).  My HR was 157 for the first mile, and 159 for the second, averaging 158.  So, it looks like the high 150s is where I'm at with my HR at my HM pace.  So, that's what I'll need to run at in a month or so when I do another assessment.  My understanding is that when I do the assessments from now on, I use that 158 HR average and then just run for 20-30 mins at that HR and then check the pace and it should be faster, showing an improvement.

I know Flat records his HR (usually just "low," not the actual numbers), but I wasn't sure if anyone else trains by HR.  I don't plan to, but this assessment was an interesting exercise.  Here's why:

The day before, I did run fairly hard, but I was surprised my HR was so high for this run at that pace and that my body felt to fatigued after just 2-3 miles at that pace.  I know my stride length shortened, but I kept a pretty high cadence.  The run started out feeling "awkward" again, but after a mile or so, I was feeling my stride again.  Keeping the pace slower was hard since my body wanted to go faster, but I kept holding it back.  I know it wants to go faster, but I don't think I can hold a 8:00 or better at HM distance, so I am trying to keep my body from running faster in my runs and focusing on keeping a consistent pace through longer runs.

I'm guessing my HR was a little elevated due to the run the day before.  Is this possible?  I know I was more fatigued, but would my HR be high(er) due to a harder run the day before?  Also, after last week's 3 miles, anything I did this week was going to be a lot higher than last week, so I shouldn't be too surprised that I'm tiring easier, I suppose.

NB 758s #1 Miles: 3.70
Weight: 0.00
Comments
From flatlander on Thu, May 27, 2010 at 18:23:22 from 198.207.244.102

Wes, just saw this. Working hard definitely affects heart rate for the next few days. I don't know the physiological reason, but if I do a really hard run on Saturday it is at least Tuesday and usually Wednesday before I start booking good paces at low heart rate. Thing is, they are usually better than the previous week absent intervening circumstances. I think the jury is still out, at least for me, as to how beneficial low heart rate training is, but I feel that you can defintely track your conditioning by tracking your pace at a given heart rate. Btw, for me low heart rate is in the 127-132 range.

From baldnspicy on Fri, May 28, 2010 at 11:23:41 from 72.77.111.90

Thanks Flat. I suspect everything you say is true. I take some meds daily that can elevate the HR some, but I don't think that is a big factor since it should be consistent every day.

I haven't focused on HR based training, but I do agree that conditioning can be tracked by pace @ a certain HR.

I may run my next half based on HR, though. I hope to run one in September, with my goal race in October. The one in September, I may try to run the race in HR zones. Start out at a lower HR (150-155 is fairly easy for me) for the first 5-6 miles, increase it to 155-160 for the next 4-5, then push it to the end in the 160+ range. The assumption being that doing 9-10 miles at a lower HR should allow me to have plenty left in the tank for that last 5k.

I could then compare that race with the one in October where I'd be running more on feel. I didn't wear my HR monitor in the last half I ran, but I may do it in upcoming races and just have it track it but not show it. I think over time, that should help to show my conditioning and what my HR is compared to the paces I'm running during the races.

Thanks for the input! I really appreciate it!

From flatlander on Fri, May 28, 2010 at 11:33:26 from 198.207.244.102

Interesting strategy, I think you will get a lot of information that way. I am so far out to sea on where my fitness level is right now that I am thinking of running UVM by heart rate. Based on some running I did in the heat earlier this week, I think I can hold 170-175 for the duration. If I get above that during the race and I have more than a 5K left, then I may have to slow down and live to fight another day. Hoping to experiment along those lines in the morning for my long run and see what happens. If I blow up in mile 12 I may not even show for UVM.

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