How Much Discomfort Can I Tolerate?!

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Location:

Eugene,OR,USA

Member Since:

Nov 09, 2007

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Other

Running Accomplishments:

  • 5k PR - 18:48 (7/04/08)
  • 8K PR - 33:46 (5/19/07, on trails)
  • 10k PR - I have not run a competitive 10K yet.
  • 12K PR - 50:10 (8/09/08)
  • 15K PR - 1:04:52 (3/22/08)
  • Marathon - Have run 1 trail marathon, (Grand Island) 3:55 (July 2007)
  • Ultra Marathons -
  • Farmdale 33.5 miles, 10/08 - 6:08
  • Riddle Run 28 Miles, 01/09 - 5:35 (run in 2-3 inches of snow)
  • Devil's Lake 50k, 07/09 - 6:22
  • Howl at the Moon 8 hour, 08/09 - 39.98 miles
  • North Country Trail Run 50 miles, 09/09 - 9:44
  • Farmdale 32 miles, 10/09 - 5:45
  • McNotAgain 30 Miles, 10/09 - 5:50
  • Red Rock Canyon Half, Las Vegas, 06/12 - 2:15


Short-Term Running Goals:

Keep running in the winter - 1st year in Eugene - fun!

Long-Term Running Goals:

Keep on Keeping on..

Personal:

Moved to Eugene in Autumn, 2012 - Track city USA!
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Mon, May 12, 2008
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Weather - 62 degrees, sunny.

Very nice day for a shortened long run. Because I have a race this Saturday I decided to include some bike intervals in the middle of today's run, rather than have another strenuous effort later in the week.

After running 45 minutes, I stopped in at Cardinal and did my usual routine of bike intervals. The session was difficult on my breathing/heartrate, more so than usual. I should mention that for the past two weeks I have altered my breathing technique during running. If I stick with it I can expect difficulties for a few months when running beyond an easy pace. This could also hinder my races, but in the long term it may be a better way to run, so I do not mind working with it for 2 or 3 months to see if my running improves from it.

After the bike intervals, which took 20 minutes to complete, I ran another 45 minutes, for a total of 90 minutes running.

Afterward I did some stretching and strength exercises, and a 35 minute walk home.

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Comments
From Benn on Tue, May 13, 2008 at 08:11:32

Nice run. I'm curious about the "altered breathing technique". Is that like what I do? I call it concentrated breathing where I consciously exhale on alternating feet each time to avoid getting stitches when doing a hard workout. I'd be interested to learn what you're doing. Keep up the miles and you'll smoke them on race day this weekend.

From will on Wed, May 14, 2008 at 07:17:17

Benn - Good job on the biking, sounds like a lot of fun, and your quad strength is going to increase.

After reading Dulliard's book I decided to give nasal breathing while running a try. It fits in with my Zen practice, it is like meditating while on the run. I have always mouth breathed while running, however, so it is a difficult transition. But in just 2 weeks I have already seen some improvement - I ran Monday's long run with no mouth breathing, other than the accelerations at the end. I could not handle nasal breathing during the bike intervals, however. The goal is to be able to run fast while nasal breathing. The nasal breathing supposedly keeps the heart rate lower. From the tests Dulliard did, some people were running 6 minute miles with a low heart rate. I want to see if I can experience something similar. If not, I can always go back to mouth breathing.

I noticed that since I have started running barefoot, my feet have felt better, even my achilles seems normal. You may want to try some light running on grass, 800-1600m easy, in your barefeet. After a few weeks you may see some improvement with your injury.

From Benn on Wed, May 14, 2008 at 07:51:09

Thanks, Will! Yeah I think I might try light running on grass in the coming week. I think that biking is making my quads and calf muscles stronger. The calf muscles are the primary support muscles for the achilles so I suspect that is also helping to hopefully strengthen the achilles! (Better to think positive, right?!)

As for the breathing, I understand now. Sometimes on my long runs I gauge my effort by how I'm breathing. I shoot for mainly nasal breathing, but find that I relax best when using a combination of inhaling with my nose and mouth and exhaling with only my mouth on alternating feet. It's weird. After practicing it for so long now I just do it by instinct.

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