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Location:

Eugene,OR,USA

Member Since:

Nov 09, 2007

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Other

Running Accomplishments:

  • 5k PR - 18:48 (7/04/08)
  • 8K PR - 33:46 (5/19/07, on trails)
  • 10k PR - I have not run a competitive 10K yet.
  • 12K PR - 50:10 (8/09/08)
  • 15K PR - 1:04:52 (3/22/08)
  • Marathon - Have run 1 trail marathon, (Grand Island) 3:55 (July 2007)
  • Ultra Marathons -
  • Farmdale 33.5 miles, 10/08 - 6:08
  • Riddle Run 28 Miles, 01/09 - 5:35 (run in 2-3 inches of snow)
  • Devil's Lake 50k, 07/09 - 6:22
  • Howl at the Moon 8 hour, 08/09 - 39.98 miles
  • North Country Trail Run 50 miles, 09/09 - 9:44
  • Farmdale 32 miles, 10/09 - 5:45
  • McNotAgain 30 Miles, 10/09 - 5:50
  • Red Rock Canyon Half, Las Vegas, 06/12 - 2:15


Short-Term Running Goals:

Keep running in the winter - 1st year in Eugene - fun!

Long-Term Running Goals:

Keep on Keeping on..

Personal:

Moved to Eugene in Autumn, 2012 - Track city USA!

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AM - There is an ultra race this weekend in Pekin, IL (McNaughton Park Trail Run). A few of the 2nd Winders are running it. I happened upon a blog of an out-of-state runner who is experienced in ultras, and is planning to run 150 miles in 48 hours or less. He happened to mention his training mileage in March, and his mileage totals for 2008. He ran 215 miles in March, and his 2008 total is 644. This surprised me - I am training for a solid 5K performance in 2008, and I am putting in more mileage than an ultra runner? It makes no sense......

PM - Weather - 57 degrees, sunny, very windy.

Ran to Busey Woods and the golf course and ran 6 x 100M accelerations on the 7th fairway. The fairway was saturated, and with each stride I kicked up mud and water, covering the back of my white shirt with slop. Ended up running 4 miles total because of the distance to the golf course, then walked 35 minutes home.

Tonight the temperature will drop more than 20 degrees, and tomorrow morning will be low 30's, snow, and 20-30mph wind. I won't be running a PR in those conditions, but I should get under 20 minutes. In normal conditions I think I could hit 19:40, but I will have to forget about time and enjoy the challenge of the weather. I should have an advantage with similarly skilled runners who trained indoors all winter.

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Comments
From Benn on Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 17:00:38

get ready to smoke them on Saturday, Will ! I'm going to go out as soon as I post this for a little jaunt in the rain myself :) It's 42 and rainy here woot!

As for training for an ultra:

Here are my thoughts - since I've been reading a lot about the ultra scene as of late. I kind of want to do a 50 m in the next year. Basically with ultra running, as I'm sure any of our ultra runners like schotz or ultrajim will attest: it's about training the body to go long, really long; Consequently a lot of ultra runners do a majority of their mileage on the weekends or on a day off from work where nothing else will get in the way. On the rest of the days, they might do say just 3 or 4 miles. So it is entirely possible for them to log say 30 miles in a week, but 26 coming from one day alone. If you look at ultrajim, Jim runs frequently into and back from work about 2x a week, and generally gets in one nice 4-5 hour run in a month. Now I don't think 600+ miles in 3.5 months is all that much either if you're getting ready for a 150 mile race, but if you're going that long there really isn't a way to train, other than just slowly build up your endurance. No matter how much training you get, basically 99.999999% of even elite runners will tackle SEVERAL walls to get through that event. So you just do what you can to slowly build up miles. Having read a few books, I've found that a lot of the ultra runners basically follow a slow buildup to where they get in a 2,3, 4, then 5 or 6 hour run in progressing, followed by at least one "night run" to retrain the body to run when it has the urge to shut down in sleep mode. I encourage you to pick up a book on ultra running. It truly is amazing. Pam Reed's book and Dean Karnaze's books are really fast reads ( I read them both within three days or so ) and full of insight into the sport. Though they are the extremists of the bunch, you'll come to appreciate their grit and determination :) Best of luck tomorrow, Will!!

Fondly,

Benn

From will on Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 18:56:38

Benn - Thanks for the ultra training information. I have read Dean K.'s book, it was quite an inspiration, and it seemed to me he put in some mega training miles (70 mile all-night training runs, etc.) What you say makes sense, every once in a while do a long long run, and the rest of the days resemble normal mileage. I am thinking about running the Clinton Lake 30 miler next March. If I don't get injured this year I just may pull it off.

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