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Location:

Orem,UT,United States

Member Since:

Jan 27, 1986

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Olympic Trials Qualifier

Running Accomplishments:

Best marathon: 2:23:57 (2007, St. George). Won the Top of Utah Marathon twice (2003,2004). Won the USATF LDR circuit in Utah in 2006.

Draper Days 5 K 15:37 (2004)

Did not know this until June 2012, but it turned out that I've been running with spina bifida occulta in L-4 vertebra my entire life, which explains the odd looking form, struggles with the top end speed, and the poor running economy (cannot break 16:00 in 5 K without pushing the VO2 max past 75).  

 

Short-Term Running Goals:

Qualify for the US Olympic Trials. With the standard of 2:19 on courses with the elevation drop not exceeding 450 feet this is impossible unless I find an uncanny way to compensate for the L-4 defect with my muscles. But I believe in miracles.

Long-Term Running Goals:

2:08 in the marathon. Become a world-class marathoner. This is impossible unless I find a way to fill the hole in L-4 and make it act healthy either by growing the bone or by inserting something artificial that is as good as the bone without breaking anything important around it. Science does not know how to do that yet, so it will take a miracle. But I believe in miracles.

Personal:

I was born in 1973. Grew up in Moscow, Russia. Started running in 1984 and so far have never missed more than 3 consecutive days. Joined the LDS Church in 1992, and came to Provo, Utah in 1993 to attend BYU. Served an LDS mission from 1994-96 in Salt Lake City, Utah. Got married soon after I got back. My wife Sarah and I are parents of eleven children: Benjamin, Jenny, Julia, Joseph, Jacob, William, Stephen, Matthew,  Mary,  Bella.  and Leigha. We home school our children.

I am a software engineer/computer programmer/hacker whatever you want to call it, and I am currently working for RedX. Aside from the Fast Running Blog, I have another project to create a device that is a good friend for a fast runner. I called it Fast Running Friend.

Favorite Quote:

...if we are to have faith like Enoch and Elijah we must believe what they believed, know what they knew, and live as they lived.

Elder Bruce R. McConkie

 

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Easy run on the Provo River Trail with Ted in the morning. Averaged 7:27 pace, Garmin 305 reported the average heart rate of 119 in spite of going crazy at some point and hitting a max of 151. I never ran fast enough to get that heart rate, so I assume it was off for a small segment of the run. Felt sleepy. Getting over the cold. Apparently it is only at the respiratory level, otherwise the heart rate would have been higher.

Ran with the kids in the afternoon. Figured out a new way to motivate Benjamin - let Jenny out of the stroller at the end of his fast 0.5 segment with 0.1 to go. Today this resulted in a fit which kept him from catching her, but he ran the last quarter in 1:47 nevertheless. Afterwards we had a talk and he did some attitude improvement core strength exercises. He needs to do them anyway, and he gets in trouble enough during the day to get his fair share. I also made him write about the experience in his blog, which he did, although rather reluctantly.

Went to see Dr. Jex. He took lots of X-rays. The good news is that my neck curve has made the most significant improvement since we started the treatment. The curvature angle is now 27 degrees with the forward head tilt of 5 mm. An improvement from 16 degrees/18 mm in the beginning, and 20 degrees/9 mm about a month ago. The ideal measurement is 35-45 degrees and 0 mm tilt. So we are on the right track in the way of neck correction. The shoulder weights we added have helped a lot.

However, the lower back is still acting odd (which is the reason he decided to spend some extra time with the X-rays), and right now we have the following issues:

  • The lumbar curve is almost normal while standing up, but I lose entirely (down to 0) when I sit down.
  • The lower spine has a lateral curve towards the right. In theory, hip weights should correct it. However, with the hip weights on it becomes worse (always bending towards the right) regardless of the direction of the torque the hip weights are positioned to create.

Dr. Jex was rather perplexed by this. Indeed my lower back is both literally and figuratively is throwing him a curve. He decided to take a more thorough look at it. We are going to have even a longer research session on Thursday. I am excited about this. Finally we are getting somewhere. For a while I felt like we were trotting in place. I have always felt that a thorough research is what this problem needed. But I could never find a specialist that would recognize the need and be willing to do what it takes.

I think I have a clue as to where the whole problem came from. Between the ages of 12 and 13 I ran 4 hard track workouts a week at the Znamenskiye indoor track in Moscow (Maria would know that one very well). They were all high volume and high intensity. Here is an example of a three day segment from one week that I recall: Monday, 6000 m in 21:42 (5:45/mile pace). Tuesday, 1000 in 3:09, 800 in 2:30, 600 in 1:48. Wednesday - 600 m in 1:47, 400 m in 67, and 200 in 32. My coach loved to give us tempo runs on the indoor track which I would do usually at a pace faster that 6:00 per mile. I can only imagine what that could have done to the developing  bones and muscles - you hit a sharply sloped curve that is about 25-30 meters long that gives you a 180 degree turnaround 16 times a mile and at a high speed times and again.

So, yes, Dr. Jex is dealing with a very unusual case. Very few people get this sort of damage. And the few that do rarely even think about it, much less care to get it fixed, just happy to run where they are at if they continue to run at all. Not me. I am persistent. I will not let this be in my way. I will not give up hope, I will not quit. I'll find a way to get it fixed and run at my true potential.

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Comments
From Maria on Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 16:29:45

I'm very impressed with your tenacity. I hope you get your back fixed, but more importantly, that it gives you the improvement you expect and takes you to the next level. You deserve it after so many years of hard work.

I agree that running such high volume at high speeds on that track could have done the damage. "Spartak" indoor track was considered one of the most steeply banked tracks in Moscow. I have run on CSKA track, and on "Trudovie Reservi" track, and both were significantly less banked that ours. My back is seriously screwed up too, but I think it happened even before I started running. I've been diagnosed with scoliosis when I was around 12, and no exercises could fix it. I should have taken up swimming, and I did, for a time, but I loved running more, and stuck with it. I don't think our track did me any favors either. Last year, when I went to a podiatrist regarding some persistent calf pain, he measured my legs while I was laying down, and said that my left leg is 1.5 inches longer than my right!! I know it's not really longer, it's just my hips are so messed up (and probably rotated, too) that it creates functional leg length descrepancy. But I'm afraid to let doctors do anything for the fear that things will get worse, and I won't be able to run at all. After all, my body somehow learned to compensate for my improperly curved back. Sometimes I think it's nothing short of a miracle that I can tolerate 50+ miles a week without major problems. It's very possible I could gain something in performance by fixing the issue (assuming it's even possible to fix), but I have no elite potential, and so I think the risk outweighs potential benefits, in my case.

From Jon on Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 00:12:34

It's interesting that you think your problems stem from some workouts so many years ago. Too much running can certainly be hard on a growing kid's body. I know I was not developed enough to run 5k's until ~14 years, and would not encourage marathons until 18 years old. I took a few years off running (20-21 years old) and my body was much, much better suited to handle hard distance running with only a 2 year difference. It's kind of like wrestling or gymnastics- the kids do so much training (and trying to lose weight) that they can permanently stunt their growth. Hopefully your doctor can help you with everything.

From Sasha Pachev on Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 07:25:55

Maria:

I have suspected there was something wrong with your back. There is something wrong with being able to run 100 m in 15 s, but only 22 minutes in a 5 K when you are training for distance. It could of course be just the slow twitch dominance, but then your 100 m should be a lot faster if your back was normal. And I believe that a bad spinal curve not only limits your top speed, but also limits your ability to hold it. Again going back to the bike with untrued wheels analogy. It is hard to go fast, but it is even harder to go fast for a long time. However, if you slow down, the resistance is reduced, and riding becomes to feel more normal.

I think you might have quite a bit of an elite potential. How much I cannot tell for sure, but I would not be surprised if you ran a 2:40 marathon if you were successful in correcting your spine. You mentioned the lack of talent in your profile comment. I am starting to believe that the talent is 90% or so in the spinal shape. Slow-twitch to fast-twitch ratio is almost irrelevant for athletic talent - you just specialize in the right event for your ratio. Have you noticed how if somebody is exceptionally good in a sprint, they are often at least decent in almost any sport, and they do not have to train for it, but if someone is way below par in a 100 meter run, they struggle in almost any sport even if they train very hard? They often become distance runners because that is the sport where hard work can provide a reasonable measure of compensation for the lack of what we call "natural ability". I think it is so because the spinal shape is critical to athletic performance, and it is something that you just have, at least when you are young, regardless of how you train.

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