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Mountain Mist Double

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Jun 14, 2008

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I've finished a couple of races here and there...

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Maybe one day I'll be enough of a runner to run a race.

maybe not...

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My ultimate long term goal is to die young as late as possible...

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Race: Mountain Mist Double (62.2 Miles) 14:48:03
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
62.200.000.000.0062.20

I had been planning on taking it easy at the Mt. Mist 50k and just enjoying the day, so I was looking for an excuse to run slow.  At about 1 pm the day before, that excuse came.  A few of us are always on the lookout for ways to spice up races, especially races like Mt. Mist that we do every year and have courses that we know pretty well.  It is a great course with vast majority single track trails (probably less than a mile of pavement), three substantial climbs, a plethora of smaller hills, and plenty sections of ankle-breaking technical trails, so three of us came to the only logical conclusion:  we should run the course in reverse starting at midnight the night before the real race.  Like I said, having a 31 mile warmup sounded like a good excuse for me to run slow.

So at midnight Friday night (or Saturday morning, depending on how you're looking at it), four of us set out to run the course from the finish back to the start.  Rob Youngren, another doubler and a venerable trail runner, did the same double a few years ago, but this was the first time in reverse.  The course was marked pretty well will flags, but, because he knows those trails better than the rest of us and is much much faster than us, we let Rob lead.  The first 14 miles (the last 14 miles if running the actual race in the proper direction) contained two of the three big hills, which warmed up our quads nicely going down, but, as is always true in running, what goes down must come up.  One of these hills is called Waterline and has a portion of hand over hand climbing, which was interesting to go down (those that have run this will really appreciate the thought of going down Waterline at night in the rain).  Other than Waterline, the first 14 (commonly known as the 2nd half) went relatively smoothly.

At the approximate halfway point, Blake Thompson proved that he really is smarter than the rest of us and called it a night by taking the short jog back up the road to Rob and Kathy's house to sleep.  Rob and I pressed on, as did Josh Kennedy, who proved himself to be a trooper, running most of the first loop by himself.  The next 17 went by as well as could be expected; the only problems we had were the occasional bouts of windy freezing rain/sleet, which aren't problems so much as slight discomforts.  Another feature of the reverse course that proved to be interesting was the ascent up Warpath Ridge (again, other Mt. Mist runners will appreciate the thought), during which Rob smoked me and had to slow down at the top to let me catch back up.  Once at the top of the ridge, the next six miles were on noticeably easier trails, and before we knew it, we were done with the first loop in 6:51:05. 

As a side note, the wildlife was a captivating feature of the night loop.  At one point, we looked around, and with the light from our headlamps, we could see ten or twelve deer on both sides of us staring right back from about 15 or 20 feet away.  We saw a couple of skunks (thankfully we didn't excite any of them too much), and with only about two or three miles left, a coyote ran straight into Rob's leg and then back into the woods.

The second loop (the actual Mt. Mist race) started at 8 am, which gave us about an hour to change out of our cold, wet clothes and convince ourselves to do it again.  The whole second loop was an exercise in will power.  Needless to say, my "excuse" worked; I did run the second loop very slowly.  Fortunately, the actual race was pretty uneventful for me; no falls, no cramps, no turned ankles, just the ever-present mind game trying to simultaneously convince me to quit and keep going.  The only time I really thought about not finishing the double was about 20 minutes before the actual race (second loop) started, and fortunately Rob, Kathy, Blake, and Josh convinced me to keep going.  I ran a large portion of the second loop with Josh, going back and forth between who was in front (he ended up beating my by around 5 minutes), and I know that provided some much needed motivation for me, and it might have for him as well.  In any case, once I got to the "halfway point" at mile 17, I figured that I had gone that far, and since there wasn't anything really physically wrong with me (notice I didn't say mentally...) I might as well push through the fatigue and finish.  I don't know what the official cutoff time is now, but I know that it used to be 8 hours, so my goal was to finish under that, and I wasted a whole three minutes, because I finished in 7:56:57, which produced my 100k time of 14:48:03

I will go ahead and chalk this one up as one of my more eccentric running adventures, given my complete lack of planning and almost whimsicle participation. All in all, however, I'm glad I did it, and who knows what's next...

 

 

I'm a little stiff

Comments
From JD on Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 19:22:46

HOLY CRAP.

From schotz on Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 19:30:12

awesome!

From Carolyn in Colorado on Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 21:51:10

Eccentric is an understatement!

From kelsey on Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 22:03:19

i'm at a loss for words. you're officially crazy.

congrats on a good run though. but you're crazy.

From mikemac on Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 22:52:38

You are a ANIMAL!!!Awesome race report.

From Inimitable Mother on Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 23:28:53

Idiot.

From Josh Kennedy on Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 11:00:56

My ankles are still are tad stiff from that adventure. You know, it SOUNDED like a darn fine idea on Fri afternoon! I can now truly say I got that out my system....

From Heather on Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 11:32:57

So, you decided that your idea of running a 50k a week for a month or two was crazy, but running 2 50ks back-to-back was sane?

It's good to know that there is someone in town who makes me look very conservative with my running, and that whatever crazy scheme I might come up with I'll be able to find company.

From jelmo on Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 13:36:02

nice run, maybe next year you can run it 3 times.

From Eric Day on Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 13:57:59

Mentally insane!

From Eric Day on Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 13:58:14

Physically crazy!

From Eric Day on Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 14:02:15

Utter respect !

From Ericka on Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 21:34:23

I bow to you sir

From Sunnyrun on Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 12:14:38

WOW! Im impressed!

From Rob Youngren on Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 22:04:43

Thanks for keeping me company on Loop 1 John. I was totally shocked when you and Josh just up and threw down the gauntlet mere hours before the midnight start! Awesome job you should be very proud (and very sore)! So what's next?

From Nevels on Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 22:15:29

Thanks to all.

I don't know, Rob, I caught myself thinking about the triple earlier...

I know I'm not in anywhere near the shape to pull that one off (at least, not under the cutoffs), but it is something to think about for years to come...

From Josh Kennedy on Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 00:06:20

Not that I'm even considering it, but how would the Triple work? I guess start about 4pm and get done before midnight? Direction of travel is runner's discretion? Rob would have to be the owner of that rule-set.

From Nevels on Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 01:26:23

Intimidating thought, isn't it? Rob and I actually toyed with the logistics of it as we were finishing up loop 1, the thought being, as you said, start at 4pm Friday. As far as direction is concerned, I would probably do it in the normal direction first, reverse second, then normal third (obviously). All of this is complete heresay, however, because I am NOWHERE near in the shape I would have to be in to do 3 loops all under 8 hours. It would be interesting to hear Rob's take on some of the "official" logistical rules...

From Lucia on Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 15:58:46

"A little stiff"??? Wow. You're awesome man! Congrats! You should do the Hellgate 100k this December - I'll be your crew :)

From Josh Kennedy on Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 17:50:31

Actually I was thinking Loop #3 on 4pm SATURDAY, finish before midnight. Primary reason is that if the actual race was loop #3, meeting the cut-offs would be in serious jeopardy! But, just as Rob got to make the rules for our Double, he/she who does the triple gets to make the rules for that.

But I really don't know why I am discussing this, since there is ZERO chance I will ever do it. After the Reverse Double I got nothing to prove!

From Brent on Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 22:24:07

Nevels, loss for words, what noble name can be bestoyed that would be of your worthy?

62.2 miles,up and down, darkness, rocks, loose footing, lack of sleep, concentration ....

Stay Beyond Kool, B of BS rools out

From Marcus on Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 23:35:12

When I was in the Monte Sano Lodge about 30min before Mt. Mist started, I noticed dried dirt all over your calves, and soon there after I heard rumors about people that had run the race backwards already. I thought if anyone was ridiculous to do it, it'd be you.

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