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Member Since:

Apr 04, 2007



Goal Type:

Marathon Finish

Running Accomplishments:


1 mile:  6:31

5K:  23:37

Half Marathon: 2:04

My first post-high school 5K, in which I thought I was going to die

The first time I won my age division.  Yippee!

My first half marathon, in which I attack Sasha

The time I beat my high school PR for the 5K (as a 31 year-old mommy of 3!)

My first 5K barefooted


Short-Term Running Goals:

I'm just getting back into running after a long break to have my last child.  I would like to race some 10Ks, a half, and a marathon in the next 2 years.

Long-Term Running Goals:

Be the oldest woman to complete a marathon.  Yea!  But hopefully I will also complete some BEFORE I geezer up, like, before I'm 40 for sure.  I think it would be fun to dress up really strange for marathons, like impersonating celebrities and stuff.  Except I don't really like celebrities, as a rule, so maybe I'll have to stick to the age old question of ninja, or pirate.  I say ninja. *Hyah!*


I am happily married to James W (Cool Runnings). We have 3 boys and 1 opinionated little girl.  I love reading and I'm also a news junkie.  I am a stinker.

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Hooray!  This is my first blog.  So after hosting the Sasha and Sarah and their five adorable  miniature olympic marathoners I got all inspired to run.  I was particularly pleased to learn it is weekly miles and not miles per run that really affect your health. i.e. I can run 2 miles 6 days a week and it is better than if I ran 3 days for 4 miles each. This is good.  I can do a mile in the morning--even if I am sick or sleep deprived, no excuses--and then finish off with a mile in the evening with my 3 boys.  I followed this formula yesterday and today.  I ran 11 minute miles for my runs, then 1/2 a mile with my 6 year old (Sam) and a quarter with Joey (4), and Adam (2).  I wasn't originally going to let my 2 year-old run, but he screamed bloody murder when he discovered that he wasn't getting to do what his brothers did.

I am surprised how well my boys did.  They really enjoyed it.  The key to getting Sam to run is trying to pretend that I can't keep up with him.  They are all falling asleep faster and sleeping a little longer, I think.  Major bonus.

On a personal note, we have been doing family readings together that have been helping our family feel close.  I am happy. 

For a long time I have been trying to figure out a way to enjoy spending time with my kids more.  This feels like a breakthrough.  I never knew little kids could run, too.  I think it is a fabulous legacy to give your children--health, vitality, and good habits.  Happy happy happy.

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From Sasha Pachev on Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 12:42:44

Welcome to the blog!

From Brent on Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 23:53:30

Keep it fun, running is a life change. Two of my boys have ran marathons with me. The 6:31 mile says you have the basic speed to get your goals.

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Morning mile at 11:20.

Ran a good mile with my six year-old (Sam) this evening.  I can't believe how fast he is improving!  I thought he wouldn't be able to run a whole mile yet.  He made me work to keep up.  I wonder if he was going faster than my own run.  One tricky thing is that he runs in bursts.   So he jogs a long for about half the time, and then takes off like he is trying to ditch me the rest of the time.  It's funny.

I'm going to take tomorrow off because I have a 4.2 mile race on Saturday.  Wish me luck!


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From Sasha Pachev on Fri, Apr 06, 2007 at 12:43:38

Jog a mile tomorrow instead of full rest.

From Lybi on Fri, Apr 06, 2007 at 16:55:50

Awww maaaan. Okay--I'll do it.

P.S. How's your piano practice coming along?

From Sasha Pachev on Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 10:20:26

Worked with Sarah on a few simple songs. Got to the point where I can play a note if she names it within a second.

From Lybi on Wed, Apr 18, 2007 at 16:32:48

Excellent. Keep playing the songs you have already learned to improve your fluency. Maybe when we come through Utah this summer we could stop & say "hi". You can play your best song for me.

Race: Pat's Run Tempe 2007 (4.2 Miles) 00:49:56, Place overall: 6299, Place in age division: 1035
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I was really nervous about doing this race.  For one thing, I know that I am not nearly as trained as I could be--I've only been running for about 2 months.  For another thing, I've got baggage about being in a "race" from my high school experience.

A little background. maybe . . .

I started running with the cross country team when I was a freshman in high school. I ran as hard as I could every single practice.  My coach used to say I had a lot of "heart"  (code for "no talent").  I never ever allowed myself to walk or slack off in practice.  During practices, I would outperform many of the lazier, faster runners.  At races, I would also do my very best, and always come up last--like maybe second to last, but very often dead last.  The best time I ever got was on a very weird course where many of my teammates got horrible times--very short, very steep hills, one after another for 3.1 miles. 

I was on the distance team in track. I mostly ran the mile.  One time I ran the 2 mile.  Here comes the trauma.  There were only 8 girls running and I  . . . well, let's just say that I ran that last 2 laps all by myself.  Everyone clapped and some even stood up when I crossed the finish line.  Why?  Pity? Impatience to move on the next event?  Or maybe they could tell that I really was pushing myself, even though I was alone.  I think that was the race when I decided that I just really sucked as a runner, nevertheless, I was still going to do it.  Let's keep the humiliation to a minimum, though--no road races since I graduated 12 years ago.  Today was a big step for me.

Post race analysis:

Goal #1 Complete the distance without stopping to walk:  GOAL MET

Goal #2 Come in under an hour:  GOAL MET

Goal #3 Extra Credit if I could come in under 50 minutes:   HOOOOOORAAAAY!  I did it!

Goal #4 Don't be last:  GOAL MET  Actually, I fared much better than I thought I would.  I was 6,299th out of 9,461.  If you only compare me to women, I was 2,260th out of 4,114.  Yea!  That puts me squarely in the middle.  I could do cartwheels over this, if I wasn't so sore and tired.  Thank goodness for all those out of shape ladies who were really just supporting the Pat Tillman Foundation.  Just think how well I did compared to all the people who sat and watched TV all day, though.  :)

Goal #5  Have fun:  GOAL MET!  I was running with my best friend, Shae.  We talked and laughed much of the time.  We also got into a water fight at every water station.  This, of course, was all part of the master plan to keep morale up and avoid overheating, right?  I also whooped and whistled given the slightest provocation and gave every single specatator a high five that would accpet one.

How I felt physically:

Before the race: "I can't believe I have to go to the bathroom again already!"  Dread.

Mile #1  Ouch.  Little stiff. We had been at the front of the starting line, so that whole mile was nothing except getting passed by everyone around us.  We held our pace though.  I brought up the oxygen-deprived bird story, Sasha.

Mile#2  Some long uphills.  We started to pass some people.  We did well on the uphills, I think.

Mile #3  Needle-like crampy pain on the left side of my back (this is a common problem for me these last few runs).  Feels like it is coming from between the ribs.  Slowed down a little--it went away after a good half of a mile

Mile #4  Relaxed, comfortable, some sweet long downhill.  Passed a lot of people.

The last little bit was strange.  I was saving a little bit to really kick it in the last hundred yards.  However, it was so congested at the finish line that everyone stopped and shuffled to the end.  My real time should probably be a least 30 seconds shorter.

Immediately after the race:  Pretty good, still had some energy.  Thinking "uh-oh, maybe I should've run faster."  I felt much better about my effort when I almost fainted while taking off my shoes. He he he.

Several hours later:  Tender--hip and knees complaining.  Hobbling and avoiding getting off the couch unless forced.  Still proud.

Anyway, the time to beat for next year is 49:56 (pace=11:54).

My legs felt better after taking my little boys for runs this evening.

Happy Easter, Everyone!


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From James on Sun, Apr 08, 2007 at 03:15:18

Woohoo! I am sooooo proud of my wife! Ran a great race on her birthday, no less, and did an awesome job of it. She and her best friend found me while I was waiting with Sam to do the kids .42 mile fun run, and they were totally full of energy and so happy. Now if only I could feel that way when I finish a road race . . . :)

From Christi on Sun, Apr 08, 2007 at 11:04:49

Hey Lybi! Love your blog! You are an inspiration. Keep up the great work!

From Sasha Pachev on Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 10:22:31

Happy Birthday, and good work. Now you have hopefully overcome the fear of racing. Try racing a 5 K in about two months and see if you can go under 30 minutes.

From sarah on Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 00:15:28

From sarah on Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 00:18:47

Hello Lybi...I think you did

a great job and considering you've only

been running for a few weeks think of

all you have to look forward to.

My friend and I are getting ready for a 10 mile run in June I think.

I didn't really have a good experience

with my last race because I crashed on it.

I was thinking maybe I'd run this next

one for fun....I like the water fight idea.

From Lybi on Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 21:50:20

Thanks Sarah!

It's good to hear from you! You know you are an inspiration for me to keep running. If your can run while raising 5 kids and homeschooling, and doing the whole cooking from scratch thing, and practicing the organ and hour a day, surely I can get out and shuffle a mile or two a day.

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Morning mile on treadmill at 11:15.

This evening, I tried to run a fast quarter and almost died around the 300 yd. mark.  I don't think I've ever sucked wind like that.  I've definitely noticed that my cardiovascular system holds me back much more than my legs.   I can run pretty far at an extremely slow pace, but if I go faster than 5.5 miles an hour, my breathing gets panicky.  What's the best way to strengthen cardio system? 

I'm not as sore from the race on Saturday as I thought I would be--just a little bit in the quads, and just a little less energy than usual.

Long day.  My grandpa's funeral was today. : (  I enjoyed the services, but still feel emotionally wiped out. 

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From Bill on Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 13:48:57

Sorry about your loss. welcome to the Blog!

The best way to strengthen your cardio system is to run every day. have one day off for recovery. build up your miles no more then 10 percent a week.

good luck and have fun.

From Sasha Pachev on Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 14:35:06

As Bill said, to build aerobic base you just go out and run. Distance and consistency are more important than pace.

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Yesterday I never got around to running, so feel a little blah about that.  This morning I intended to run 2 miles while pushing a cantankerous non-jogging stroller.  I made it 1.5 miles.  That's still better than nothing, nevertheless, I felt lame.  Battling a little discouragement.  Why am I so tired?  I've been getting good sleep. . . . I do have a very sore throat, but it doesn't seem to be progressing into a real illness.  Oh well, just keep on keeping on, right?  Ying and yang. 

This evening I really enjoyed taking my 6 year old for a run.  He did a good mile at what seemed a pretty confortable pace to me--probably about 12 min.  I feel so proud of him that I didn't even think about getting tired or wanting to stop. 

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From Sasha Pachev on Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 14:21:34

Good work. You should not expect every day to be good. In fact, when I start training really hard, most of the days I do not feel that good at all, before or after the run, it is just not any worse after. It is like a long unending daze, except somehow I am able to push through it when the time comes to run fast. Also, do not make up for lost days, train normally, and if the break has been sufficiently long, then resume at a lower volume/intensity and ease into it. The train is gone, and you should not try to chase it on foot, catch the next train.

From Lybi on Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 00:34:18

Ahhh the wisdom . . . Thanks Sasha. It is good to know that even you don't always feel super duper. I need to learn to slip into "daze" mode and just get 'er done.

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Half a mile with my four year-old.  He looked really comfortable.  I didn't have to encourage him to keep running at all.  His pace is getting faster, although I can't tell exactly how much.  I am just surprised how well he is doing because he's always been my little guy with the least amount of strength.  He was diagnosed with mild low muscle tone and needed physical therapy to learn how to walk (at 18 months) and jump.  Now he is able to run a good 800!

A mile and a half by my self in the rain.   Ahhhhh it was so beautiful.  You have to be in the desert to really appreciate rain.  Everything is so still and muffled by the pattering drops.  It smells good, it sounds good, it feels good (if it's not to cold).  Yum!  I actually didn't want to stop when I finished.  Let's see, the last time I felt like that during running was  . . . NEVER.   

I wonder if part of the reason I felt so good today was that I started out super slow and sped up as I went along.  Usually I do the other way around.

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Just a quick family jog to Kinkos and back.  Not too impressive.  However, I practiced the piano for 6 hours today, and if anyone on the blog can beat that, I'll eat my laptop.

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From James on Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 02:24:33

Sorry, I only got in about 40 minutes on the piano . . . but you played the equivalent of a marathon today!

From Lybi on Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 20:20:47

Thank goodness, my laptop can rest easy.

The real marathon is the concert next Monday. Ah!

From Lybi on Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 20:21:12

Thank goodness, my laptop can rest easy.

The real marathon is the concert next Monday. Ah!

From christi on Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 20:43:10

hey lybi- love reading your blog! I can sympathize with trying to be mom (mother of 2 here) & finding time to run! I've been running for 7 yrs. (since my youngest child was a baby) but at times more seriously than others. Now I try to run a race almost every month even if its just a 5k- to keep me motivated. Cool that you teach piano. I took through HS then quit, should've kept it up!

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Hey look at that.  I like green.  Especially on mile markers. 

I just finished 2 miles on the treadmill at 22:48.  I tried starting REALLY slow (4 miles an hour) and gradually increasing the pace to 6.5 miles an hour by the end.  I like the switching of speeds.  It almost feels like I use different muscles when I speed up a little, and I don't notice the fatigue.  I am pretty happy that I didn't labor with the breathing as I got faster.  I could still run with my mouth closed until I got up past 5.5 miles per hour--which was around the 1 mile mark.

You know another thing I like about running on a treadmill?  I watch movies on a little portable DVD player.   You know, the kind that you can put in your car?  Well, they fit perfectly on the little book rest on the treadmill.  One of the hardest things for me during running is what goes on in my head.  Without a distraction, I usually end up staring at the little screen, watching each .01 of a mile tick by.  Or if I'm at the track, I start doing infuriating fractions.  "Look, I've already done 3.25 laps and I'm going for 8.  That means I've only got 19/32nds left to go (get a pencil and paper--it's right) . . . now I've done 3.5 laps . . . ."  Good grief.  Talk about neural fatigue.  I've got to get some really great music to listen to--I bet that would help.  What do you guys think about while you run?

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From christi on Sun, Apr 15, 2007 at 22:27:41

Well I haven't quite made a race every month for the past 7 yrs, that's just been a goal for the last couple yrs. and there's months I miss. I like your distraction ideas that you use while running. So much of running is mental and just convincing our bodies to go along! Sometimes I like to run alone and just think- sort out my day. But often I like to run w/ people & chat. Occasionally I go to the gym where I can watch a full size movie while I run (theatre room)- but when I do this I really miss being outside. During races I use music, but that's really the only time. Anyway- good luck w/ your training this next week! I'm going out of town so my challenge will be to see if I can make myself run on vacation!

From sarah on Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 00:44:16

Hey Lybi,

You are still blogging....good girl.

Sasha is still practicing the piano

He forced me to help him last night at like 10:30 when I was desperate to go to bed after two bad nights witha very

sick baby Jacob...sound familiar?

I miss feels like forever since

we were there and we had such a great time

with you guys.

6 hours piano...did you have a rectial or something big to prepare for?

I've got to get better about blogging

again. I run every day between 2-5or 6 miles but I need to write it down.

My kids say Hi to yours...have a good day


From sarah on Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 17:43:39

I just saw your comment about me running pregnant and I need to qualify that...I was just barely pregnant and had not really started feeling sick yet. I was also younger then and in better shape. I think that was my third pregnancy and I was less stressed with only two kids. Also by the end of that and all pregnancies I did just run a couple of slow miles. I just wasn't pregnant enough for that race to slow down yet....

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Aw man!  My milage is slipping.  I'm having a hard time juggling everything in my schedule right now, but I thought I'd get on and at least be accountable.     What is a good goal for me to shoot for in terms of weekly mileage at this early stage of my training?  I want to run a 5K at the end of May.  On a good day I go about 2 miles, in general.

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From BILL on Wed, Apr 18, 2007 at 14:01:17

Hi Piano teacher.

I think you could run a 5 k right now and live to tell about it.

your running about a mile a day. I would think a good goal would be 10-15 miles a week. for several weeks. keep that goal until you achieve it.

good luck in your training. Make up a schedule and fit your runs in that schedule.

From Sasha Pachev on Wed, Apr 18, 2007 at 16:45:15

I find that other than sleep usually there are very few scheduling conflicts at 5:00 AM. There is a point where sleeping extra 10 minutes is more effective than running extra 10 minutes, but I think it starts once you run at least 4 miles a day regardless of the amount of sleep you are getting.

From Lybi on Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 02:01:36

I definitely have a scheduling conflict at 5:00 am. My pillow needs me at that time. Very important. The last time I was conscious on purpose at 5:00 am was probably staying up all night in college to cram for finals. Even then, it depends on what your definition of "conscious" is. I actually prefer to run at night since I am exhausted and good for nothing other than just going to sleep when I finish. Bad way to start out a morning IMHO.

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One mile with my 6 year old.  2 miles on the treadmill, 5-6 miles per hour.  My goal for this week is to have at least 10 miles total.  I will try to do that for 3 weeks in a row and then bump it up to 15 miles.  This is on the advice of some guy on the blog named Bill.  Which of the three Bills I have no clue.  However, any one of them probably knows what he is talking about . . . ergo I go and do.  My goal by the end of may is to run a 5K in under 30 minutes.  Half an hour to just schlepp myself  from point A to point B.

For accountability purposes I think I'm going to start blogging my piano practice.

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From Sasha Pachev on Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 15:01:17

Good work! On an unrelated note, I am missing a set of keys, and there is a possibility I left them at your house. The most likely location is under the sofa bed in the living room, or somewhere under a bed in the kids room.

From James on Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 20:54:23


We just found your keys today, and will send them to you first thing tomorrow morning. Sorry about the delay - we had looked everywhere we thought they could be, and ended up finding them behind (or under) Adam's dresser.

From Sasha Pachev on Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 21:14:52

Thanks. I am very glad you found them. No hurry - I've lived without them for the last two weeks.

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1 Mile with the Fam.  I had my 2 year-old piggy back for the last half.  Now my arms are so sore I can hardly reach up and touch my nose.  Kids are really good for cross training (he he).

1 Mile on Treadmill.  I took it really easy because I was sore and still a little weary from yesterday's run.

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2 Miles on the treadmill. I ran in the morning, for a change, and felt surprisingly perky at the end. I'm just a little tight/sore in the hips. Is it important to stretch? Before, after, or ever?

Piano: zilch

I traveled to Colorado today to see my sister's new babies. I'm going to try to run at this extremely high altitude tomorrow. Wonder what'll happen . . .

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From Maria on Sat, Apr 21, 2007 at 06:41:29

Stretching is important. Personally, I believe "after" is better than "before". Try spending ~10min. after your run to stretch, it may help with tightness.

As for altitude running, expect slower pace and getting tired more easily, especially your first run. Don't push it, and you'll be fine.

Keep up the good training! Judging by your mile speed, you can run at least 22:00 in a 5K. Just be consistent!

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Today I met my goal for running 10 miles this week, so I feel good about that. Two more weeks like this one and I'll be ready to start increasing my milage. I am in Colorado Springs right now, which is at a very high elevation, so I was expecting to feel worse tham I did. I am visiting my sister. I took all 6 of her kids running today. I like running with other people, and all my nieces and nephews liked it. My sister seemed to really appreciate it too. I would take some of them out, then come back around, drop off the tired ones and get some other ones. He he he. My 13 year-old niece did the whole distance with me, and my 6 year-old niece went a mile.

I didn't notice the elevation as much as I noticed the hills. Nothing here is flat. You either go steeply downhill or steeply uphill. I am trusting everyone on the blog that speed doesn't really matter at this point--just consistently running the miles--because I have to admit a well-trained snail could've passed me today. However, I did the distance and had fun, made some memories with the fam. Then I stretched afterwards, and it felt really delicious. I think I'm going to be an after-stretcher from now on (thanks for the tip, Maria).

I like to end with a question, because then I get more feedback. What is the most embarrassing thing that has happened to you while running? (Remember to keep it family friendly, guys!) Mine was running a track race with my shorts on backwards. I was notified after the first lap of the 1600 by a teammate. Oops. Or how about how your spit thickens when you run, so that if you try to spit it clings. Man, I hate dangling!

Piano:40 min.

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From christi on Sun, Apr 22, 2007 at 10:35:09

thanks for your comments Lybi. Yeah "T" & "A" are my kids. Its funny because my hubby doesn't like me putting names or too much personal info on my blog for security reasons. But I'm such a blabber I'm sure everyone has it all figured out. Anyway- I wrote that I ran the 5k this week faster than last week- that was a typo- my run yesterday was 1 min. SLOWER than last week. But still a blast. Ironic that we're both visiting sisters this week & running w/ the kids. To answer your question- most embarrasing running moment- when I was in 8th grade, doing the 50 yard dash- came in 1st in my heat- but stumbled at the finish and fell which caused my shorts to drag along the ground and left me scraped up and embarrassed in my undies!

From sarah on Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 00:31:28

Hey Lybi,

You are such a cute blogger...asking questions and everything...How is Colorado Springs? Your sister has 6!! Wow...I'm sure she loved it when you took them for a run and got some energy out. I think my most embarassing moment conncected with running (the spit dangling doesn't compare for me)...well it didnt' happen to me exactly while I was running but it concerned me since it was one of my kids. Did I tell you about the time Sasha had Joseph in a race when he was 10 months old. The problem was that he couldn't even WALK yet let alone run. He walked along with the help of a push toy and CRIED the entire way.

I was so embarassed as crowds of people watched and laughed at the "cute" sight...I had to fight the urge to grab him up and run away.....funny now..horrible then

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I had to sprint to the bus stop to get my son off the bus.  Does that count?

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I'm still huffing from finishing my 2 miles (incline at 1) on the treadmill.  I started out at 4.5 mph which felt really  . . . I felt like I was pounding a lot.  I had a tiny bit of pain in my knee and shins at this speed.  I ran the bulk of the run at 5.3 mph.  I finished at 6 mph which feels good on my legs--I strike more on my mid-foot than heels at this speed.  However, I definitely breathe harder.  I felt exhausted, but I was exhausted before I started.  I haven't been getting enough sleep.  Piano concert pressure--life returns to normal (such as it is) a week from today.  Yea!

Piano: 4 hours in rehearsal, 45 min. with my piano teacher, 1 hour on my own

Time to go stretch.

Oh yeah!  I have a major complaint!  I've gained weight since I started running.  What gives!?



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From Sasha Pachev on Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 18:19:43

You should expect that to a point, as fat is being replaced with muscle. Muscle is heavier than fat. I would not worry about weight at all unless it comes with a reduction in fitness.

From christi on Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 19:40:04

Hey Lybi- Yeah, I gain weight when I run too- at first, then I lose. I think Sasha is right about the muscle weight. I also really have to watch my diet when I run because I am usually more hungry & tired when I run alot and tend to binge! I like to go by how my clothes fit and not the scale so much... Way to go this week! I've been slacking. My vacation really set me back. Meeting my running partner in the morning. Looking forward to getting back into the groove!

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Nice little run on the treadmill.  Incline 1 speed 5.0 for the most part.  I REEEAALLY didn't want to do it today, but thank goodness I just did it anyway.  Remember how exhausted I was yesterday?  Well, a certain two year-old was up a  million jillion katrillion times in the night so I was in a blithering daze all morning until I got a nap after my run.  Now I feel fine.  Running 2 miles doesn't leave me tired very long anymore--maybe just half an hour or so.   Progress.

I notice that I really want to run faster when I hear a song that I like on my DVD player (in a movie soudtrack, for example).  For my upcoming race I really need to get 30 minutes of the best music for running I can find.  Any ideas?  Some of my favorites for running so far are "Walking on Sunshine" "Respect "(he he) and the theme from Crimson Tide.

Piano: 1 hour

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From Sasha Pachev on Fri, Apr 27, 2007 at 14:05:47

If a kid wakes you up, you may just as well go for a run right then on the treadmill. Idea for a song - of course, BINGO!

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On treadmill, same specs as usual.  Dragging a little. 

Piano: 80 minutes

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On treadmill, same ol' same ol'.  Except I started the run without shoes on, just for kicks.  It was cool for about a quarter of a mile.  Then my heels started to hurt.  So I shod up and finished.  But I didn't wear socks. (Ah!)  I must be craving some change.  I've gotta get on the road tomorrow.  I feel too much like a hamster on that thing.

On a happy note. . .  I now have visible calf muscles.  So that's good, I guess.

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From James on Sat, Apr 28, 2007 at 02:13:15

Ah, but a very cute hamster!

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.6 miles with my 4 year old.  He runs about 13 min/mile pace.

1.4 miles on the treadmill at 5.3 mph.  I actually was going to skip running tonight, but I couldn't fall asleep.  I had this ichy feeling in my legs.  So I am now one of the initiated . . . running post-midnight.   I think part of the reason I couldn't sleep was because I really wanted to meet my goal of 10 miles this week.  Now just one more week like this and then I can increase my mileage to 15 miles a week.    I definitely feel that running 2 miles is getting easier.  I basically feel sweatier, but not tired or sore when I finish.  BTW the high today was 101 F.  Running outside is not going to be a very pleasant option for me very much longer.  Thank goodness for the ol' treadmill.

Piano: nothing much, although I did teach my son a couple songs

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From Curtis on Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 10:45:44

Thanks for the encourgement, keep up your running, you will get to your goal. I started running about five years ago, so if I can do it so can you. Good luck.

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2 miles on treadmill 5.3 mph, until the last 1/2 mile, then 6 mph.  Felt pretty good.  Breathed pretty hard at the end.  It is very humbling to note that 6 mph feels fast to me.  Yikes.  Oh well, at least I am getting healthier.

Piano: 1 1/2 hours practice, 1 1/2 hours in concert

*Phew* Did the concert . . . it's over!.  So glad to be free from that pressure!  


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From Christi on Tue, May 01, 2007 at 09:34:57

How did the concert go? I think its wonderful that you are keeping up with that part of yourself along w/ 3 kids! That's great! You'll have to let me know how WW goes. I've often thought about joining, but felt silly because I only have about 10 to lose- but sounds like you don't have much to lose either. I'm looking at your pic- you look great! I know people who've had great success on weight watchers. My strategy for now is portion control- planning my meals better and cutting back on eating out (my family's weakness!)

From Sasha Pachev on Tue, May 01, 2007 at 22:28:47

Chrisi - no need for weight watchers. Just post your daily menu in your blog along with your workouts. Free and effective.

Lybi - if 6 mph feels hard keep it lower. Also, do not raise the incline any more than 1 percent. Higher grade makes you go anaerobic, and you are not yet ready for it. Now the time/distance on your feet is much more important than how hard you are running.

P.S. - I have been able to play some hymns without memorizing them or looking at the keyboard while I play.

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2 miles on the treadmill.  I tried playing with the incline a little bit.  I always run at an incline of 1, but today I ran with an incline of 2 for about 3/4 of a mile.  It really made me feel my legs, for a change.  Well, the good news is that I'm being consistent.  The bad news is that it makes for boring blogs.

Piano: just a little just for fun, plus my lesson later tonight with my teacher, who is a piano maniac.

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I took it easy today. I just ran with the kids around the neighborhood.  It's so nice having the Garmin so we can just run wherever we want! 

Am I the only beginning runner on this blog?  i.e. I've been running less than 1 year.  (2 months, actually, feels longer).  So far almost all the blogs I read are by people who place in the single digits when they race.

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From Bill on Thu, May 03, 2007 at 12:18:16

yea, Most the guys on this blog are freaks of nature. Real animals. They train hard and many have run for years to get to that competative level. Runners, run for different reasons. It does not matter what level your at. Just so you enjoy it.

From Lybi on Fri, May 04, 2007 at 01:46:20

Okay. Enjoying running must be a learned skill as well. So far I'm still pretty happy when my run is over. I assume it becomes more enjoyable as you get better. I know with piano it commonly takes about 3 years to get to the point where it is just amazingly fun.

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1.5 this morning on the treadmill.  .5 with my sons tonight. 

So I am fascinated with something....I keep reading blogs about how much some of you LOVE running.  I am curious (baffled really).  What is it that you love about running?  Is it the recognition/awards that you get because you are so good at it, the thrill of winning etc....or is there something intrinsic about running that is wonderful to you? 

I think what really gets me about running is the idea of progression.  I'm hooked on feeling that I am still growing as an individual.  I could do without the pounding and labored breathing if it were possible (ha ha).

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From Kerry on Fri, May 04, 2007 at 11:56:54

The title of your blog caught my attention (since we've been looking for a new piano teacher), but I just felt compelled to answer your question...

When I started running again after a number of years, it definitely wasn't much fun. I was trying to get back in shape and everything hurt -- during the run and for much of the rest of the day afterwards. It was just sheer willpower that kept me going for the first couple of months.

Then one beautiful spring morning, a remarkable thing happened. I was running down a familiar road next to a field of alfalfa and I felt like I was flying. I was moving faster than normal, but I felt no pain or stress. I heard the birds singing, felt the sun on my face and noticed that the vibrant colors of the wildflowers for the first time. I felt so alive at that moment.

I can't say every run since then has been pure joy, but I've had a lot of runs that were just as good and some that were even better. Sometimes those moments come when I really push myself, sometimes they come when I just relax and leave the watch at home. Sometimes it comes running with friends and most often when I have the chance to run with my wife.

Over the last six years or so, I've met so many remarkable people through running. It just seems to bring out the best in people. I hope you can find the same kind of enjoyment from running that I have.

From Bill on Fri, May 04, 2007 at 12:37:22

Hello Lybia, and good day!

I go by Bill usually. I enjoy racing. but I also enjoy running with a group or club. Racing can be pretty intense and not every one enjoys it. Running is a good way to meet friends that have some of the same interests.

From Sasha Pachev on Fri, May 04, 2007 at 12:51:38

Hard to explain. There is something special that you gain from pushing yourself to the limit in a sensible way. There is something special when you feel you are in control of your body as opposed to the other way around when you do not run.

From Paul Petersen on Fri, May 04, 2007 at 13:23:46

Good philosphical question. I love looking forward to things (future-oriented), and training and racing always gives me something to look forward to (ie the next race). It gives me something tangible to dream about and pour myself into. I enjoy the building process and progression as well. If you build correctly, something beautiful may result. Also, I love the people, and much of my non-family social interactions occur while running.

From Lybi on Sat, May 05, 2007 at 02:22:50

You guys are so aweome! Thanks for the feedback. It really gives me something to look forward to once I get in a little better shape.

One of the things that made me want to start running again was going to the St. George Marathon when my husband ran it. We went to the pre-race expo. I just milled around with all those athletes and I could tell a real difference in them--and surprisingly it wasn't that they all looked super athletic. They just seemed more alive. There was a fire in their eyes. Someday I hope to get that fire too. For now I'll have to be content with this fire in my lungs ;).

From James the hubby on Sat, May 05, 2007 at 02:36:12

I am certainly not the fastest runner (although I always love your compliments), so winning is not what does it for me. For me, when everything clicks on a run, there is just this feeling of exhileration, like nothing else matters but the enjoyment of the moment. Like that one time you ran in the rain and just loved it. I love you and am so proud of you.

From sam on Sat, May 05, 2007 at 13:02:11

It's a question that can be answered in many different ways and each person has their own answer, but I think we run because it is in our nature. We were born with legs and a heart and it is natural that we should use them. Although we live in a modern world with every available convenience (a world in which we don't need to run to survive), running seems to tap something primitive and deeply human.

From Brent on Sat, May 05, 2007 at 18:30:55

Running really helps me enjoy the journey of life, being outside, better mental attitude about personal challenges. For many bloggers, they are at the top in the Utah racing circuit. For me, racing is fun, but not the reason to run, I ran for 10 years without running a race. Your will understand when you go crazy for missing a day of running, it will become part of you.

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2 miles by myself outside, for a change.  Average pace: 5.3 mph.  I was a little hesistant to get out tonight because I put it off until it was dark.  Then, of course, I was afraid of being piano teacher-napped by some wierdo.   I was determined to go outside, though, to see if it was more enjoyable than the ol' treadmill.  I think it was.  The temperature was perfect and there was a slight breeze.  I ran around the small man-made lakes in my neighborhood.  There were ducks and even some ducklings, which was sweet. 

I tried to follow the ROOLS.  So I sped up a teeny tiny bit into the wind and up the hills.  AND I even tried singing BINGO in my head (see Sasha!).  He he he... all this wisdom by you experienced runners have is going to good use.  The data is conclusive:  according to the Garmin I did, in fact, run slightly faster when I was singing BINGO than not (!) even though I did not notice it at the time.  As a control, I tried singing "What a Wonderful World" in my head, but it was a little frustrating because I kept forgetting the words.  


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From Brent on Sat, May 05, 2007 at 13:33:09

"ROOLS" Wow, you are getting runner tough. The extra effort gets you fitter mentally as well as physically. I will tell kind of a funny story about one of the "ROOLS" - My son-in-law was training with us for a marathon, I had just told him the "ROOLS". We were one step out the door and he complained it was cold, he lost 10 commando points. Awarding commando points is kind of game we play to reward each other (myself and my wife Sylvia) for extra effort and being a tough runner. You get 5 commando points.

B of BS Rools out

From Brent on Sat, May 05, 2007 at 13:33:11

"ROOLS" Wow, you are getting runner tough. The extra effort gets you fitter mentally as well as physically. I will tell kind of a funny story about one of the "ROOLS" - My son-in-law was training with us for a marathon, I had just told him the "ROOLS". We were one step out the door and he complained it was cold, he lost 10 commando points. Awarding commando points is kind of game we play to reward each other (myself and my wife Sylvia) for extra effort and being a tough runner. You get 5 commando points.

B of BS Rools out

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Nice little run tonight at dusk.  Tonight I met my goal of 10 miles per week for the 3rd week in a row.  I guess I'm ready to bump up the mileage.  For the next 3 weeks I'll aim for 15 miles per week.  Do you think that's too much of a jump?  I've read about the 10% rule, but I've also read that it doesn't really come into effect until after 20 miles per week.   15 miles is just 3 miles one day, 2 miles the next, with one rest day in the week.  Seems possible.   Will I still get all the benefits if I break up the 3 mile runs into 2 parts?  i.e. 1 mile in the morning, 2 miles at night?  I'm hoping I can minimize fatigue that way.

Wow.  I saw a cool thing on my run--a big ol' great blue heron (tall water bird--like a stork).  It just stood really still and I ran within 15 feet of it!  From that distance, I really wondered who was taller.  He was huge, for a bird, whereas I am quite shrimpy for a human.   Not bad for a little fake lake in the middle of the suburbs.  I really love animals, so this was a real treat for me.  


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From Bill Cobler on Sun, May 06, 2007 at 01:23:39

You asked what I comment as... I usually use Bill Cobler, but if I'm in a hurry I just go BC. It's not to be cryptic as some have said in the past. I've read your blog several times and your comments. Keep up the good work.

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First 3 miles in a row since April 7th.  On treadmill, 5.3 mph most of the time.  Surprisingly, I felt fine.  I actually feel a little bit better now than I did before I ran.  I've felt blah all day because I couldn't drag my sorry self to bed until WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too late last night.  

According to my fancy-schmancy bathroom scale, my bone density has increased since I started running.  Cool!

One item of concern: the bottoms of my feet have been a little tender or sore or something first thing in the morning.  Is this a precursor to an injury?  Any tips?

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From Bill on Tue, May 08, 2007 at 18:39:36

what kind of shoes are you running in? maybe time to buy a nice pair from a running store. No big five or walmart specials!

From sarah on Tue, May 08, 2007 at 23:45:19

Hey Lybi...I've missed you....good girl on the three are on your way!!!

I'm feeling much better after my flu bout and have missed your comments and reading about your runs...I'm getting back in the swing of things and feel better.

Your bone density..that is really cool...

I've heard that impact sports are supposed to be good for bone density (contrary to

popular belief of the lazy non-exercising part of the country) nice to see some actual evidence.

From Lybi on Wed, May 09, 2007 at 01:08:55

Hey Bill-I have nice running shoes but they are old. They don't have a lot of running miles on them, but they have TONS of walking mileage. You're right, I need new shoes.

Sarah! I'm so glad you're feeling better. I always thought giving my kids piggy back rides counted as a weight bearing activity, so I never worried about my bone density. : ) But my dad has developed osteoporosis, so I had it measured--4.4 (I have no idea what the units are). The lowest it should be for someone my weight is 4.6. But now it is 4.8. Yea!

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One mile this morning . . . and it was like trudging through molasses.  I was a little bit sore when I started.  It was less than 8 hours from last night's run.

Then a perky little mile this evening.  5.3-8 mph.  It was so much easier tonight.  Why are all the races in the morning?  This is discrimination against night owls!  How can I protest--I know, I'll boycott the next olympics...that'll teach 'em. 

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From Sasha Pachev on Wed, May 09, 2007 at 18:20:01

The Olympic races are actually often at night or in the afternoon, which would be a reason to boycott a distance race in a hot place during the summer. If a popular marathon were to be held in the evening of a hot day, the number of dehydration cases would be much higher, and you would see more death reports.

From Lybi on Wed, May 09, 2007 at 22:26:15

Death Shmeth. What is death compared to glory?

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3 miles on treadmill.

I lost 2 lbs. this week.  This is faster than normal, but I'm sure that it will average out to about 1/2 to 1 lb. a week over the next couple of months.  First week I think I just loose some water and such.  I've gone to WW after having each of my boys.  It always works, it just takes a little time.

I can't sleep!  James has been in Boston this week for business.  THANK GOODNESS he comes home tomorrow.

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From christi on Thu, May 10, 2007 at 00:46:42

Great job on the weight loss! I'm jealous. I need to stop vacationing- always eat too much! Going to stay put for the next month and work on eating well & running! I can relate to crazy hubby schedule's & not sleeping! Its the pits!

From James the hubby on Fri, May 11, 2007 at 00:24:08

Woohoo! I am finally home! A little worse for the wear, but it is so good to be back with my family whom I love so very much. Great job on both your training and your weight loss! You know, its actually pretty inspirational to read your blog about running even when you don't feel like it (previous blogs). Don't worry, there will be times when you will really enjoy the run, and other times when you will be like "lets just get this over with". The important thing is to carry on, and the long-term benefits will be phenomenal. Love ya, babe!

From sarah on Fri, May 11, 2007 at 00:28:33

I laughed til I cried when I read your "warning" on Sasha's blog.

I don't sleep too well with Sasha away

either..a week is a long time too...I feel for you. That's why Sasha took us to Arizona with him...Thanks again for

making that possible.

I was thinking of your tomatoes that you had planted way back in April...just got mine in are garden...are you getting flowers on yours now?

BTW...I love your updated goals..I need to think about mine but keep thinking I'll probably be pregnant by the end of the summer. I have plans to run a 10miler in a month and a 1/2 marathon in August with my running buddy Adrianne.

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Yea!  James finally came home!!!  Unfortunately he is sicker than 2 pigs. 

2 Miles on the treadmill.  I watched my 2 favorite parts of High School Musical the whole time.   It's these two songs:  "The Start of Something New" and "Breaking Free".  Both of them are so appropriate for how I feel about running right now.  You should all watch High School Musical.  The first time you see it you think "Hmmm.  That was cute. Very clean.  Good Choreography."  The second time you see it, you think "Wow.  This makes me want to sing."  The third time you watch it you think "I'VE GOT TO GET THE SOUNDTRACK!!!!  I NEED THE KARAOKE VERSION SO I CAN SHOUT THE SONGS AT THE TOP OF MY LUNGS!"  The only bad thing about it is that it is so popular.  I hate things that EVERYBODY likes, in general.

Don't bother leaving a comment that High School Musical is corny because you are WRONG!  If you think that, it's only because you haven't watched it enough times yet.  Either that or you are tone-deaf.  It happens.

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From Brent on Fri, May 11, 2007 at 20:50:47

I love musicals, love to sing along, but no one thinks a should. Fiddler on the roof and paint your wagon. Your positive attitude is contagious.

Sick as two pigs? How are you doing on your goal of 15 miles this week? Keep up the good work. What is your next race? Have you got it picked on your calendar?

From Lybi on Sat, May 12, 2007 at 01:53:29

Anybody who doesn't want you to sing just needs to hear more of you! Sing out, brother.

SickER than two pigs. This is a phrase my Spanish teacher in high school for anything notable. It must have started out with "fatter than 2 pigs".

Saturday I will run 2 easy miles and reach my goal of 15 for the week. No problem! My next race is a 5k on the last weekend in May--2 weeks away. AAAAAh! I'm a little nervous. Sasha said to try for under 30 minutes. My goal is just to run hard enough that I have to puke when I'm done. Apparently that is a good indicator of effort.

From christi on Sat, May 12, 2007 at 21:16:58

I just read this and it cracked me up! Your blog always makes me smile. I've only seen High School Musical 2x. First time tolerated it with the kids and thought it was a cute kid show. The second time I was singing along. I'm hooked too, looking foward to part 2! (You have given me the courage to come out of the closet with this- hee hee)...

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3 miles outside.  I was hoping to just go out and not look at the Garmin and see what my pace naturally was, but I did peek a little.  I was really hoping for even split.

1st mile 10:51

2nd mile 10:41

3rd mile 10:55

I am overjoyed to see that I finally taught the 11:00 mile girl who was the boss, albeit she is quite a wimp, and is actually on crutches, I hear.  I tried to focus on my arms this run.  I have a tendency to leave my arms in place and twist my body to balance my gait, which probably constricts the lungs.  So tonight I tried really hard to only let them travel parallel to each other--i.e. not cross my body at all.  I think that this increased my stride a little.  Overall I am really happy with this run.  I did feel a little queasy at the start of the 3rd mile.  I've identified that pizza is the worst possible food to eat right before running. 

The most notable thing that happened on my run was that a duck flew out from a foot away and crossed right in front of me--almost collided with me.  I was so alarmed that for several seconds I found it unnecessary to breathe.  Bad duck!  On my Garmin report there was a huge spike on the pace line there. 

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From James the hubby on Sun, May 13, 2007 at 11:15:35

wow, you have done a great job this week. Not only have you increased your mileage, but you also put the 11:000 mile girl in her place. Keep up the good work!

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I was sore from yesterday's run and also have a sore throat.  Please please please do not let me get whatever plague it is that has DH James in its grip.  I skipped my run and feel partly wise and partly lame.  I missed my weekly goal of 15 miles by 2.  13 miles in a week is a new PR for training, though, so that's good.

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I like to end with a little sprint.  It gives a little tingle . . . a little.  Know what I'm talking about?  I went very slow today bc I feel a little under the weather.  I'm not going to get moaning-and-shivering sick like everyone else in my family has been.  I never got the fever.  Thank you thank you thank you.

Good news about my 5k next Friday--it's in the evening!!!  Yea!  Plus it is for a good cause--fighting melanoma.  It is supposedly flat and fast.  It will be sweltering hot.  It will be my first 5K post high school.

I've been thinking about goals.  For this race I want to beat Paul Petersen's time: 30:45.  The only difference is that his time was for a 10K and I'll be running 5.  This may sound like it's not very fair to Paul.  But think of it this way--he's been running far more than twice as long as I have and has more than twice the natural talent, plus he is a man . . . it is only fair that he should run twice as far as me for the same time. : )  If anyone else on the blog has a faster 10K time let me know--I'll beat it.  But for now, you're going down, Paul!  (At least, your time is anyway--BTW good luck in Ogden.)

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From Paul Petersen on Tue, May 15, 2007 at 10:33:06

ha ha. Thanks for the good wishes Lybi. Best of luck to you in your 5K. Keep training consistently and keep excited about it, and not only will you reach your short-term goals, but crush your high school PRs as well. Cody is a good example of this. He took a hiatus from running for 6 or 7 years, then got back into it again. Within one year of good solid training, he has exceeded his previous high school level. He's now looking at running times he didn't think possible ever before.

As far as bloggers with faster 10K times, I think Ryan Woods has run somewhere in the 29-minute range. That surely smokes any of us other guys. Regardless, after you beat all the 10K times, you can move on to my 8K PR (24:54). :-)

From Lybi on Tue, May 15, 2007 at 15:45:35

See why I love this blog!? Everyone is so positive and encouraging. Thanks Paul, you had me grinning for an hour. But that doesn't mean I'm going to take it easy on your's still going down!

From sarah on Wed, May 16, 2007 at 00:49:51

Lybi you are so funny!I think I read your blog every day for the great laugh it gives me....When I was running my first few races I think I made it a goal to not let Sasha run anymore than twice as fast as me....He loves to run the race....turn around and come and run the rest of my race with me. I always love it when he's surprised to see me (like I've been running faster than he thought I would)

He loves me...but his true wish is for us to run Boston or Chicago together and for him to tell ESPN that he can't do the interviews (you know...after he's won the race)...because he has to go and finish the race with his wife.

That actually happened when we ran a marathon together only it was in Logan...not Boston...maybe someday.

Good Luck on your 5K!!!!

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I ran .8 with my little boys (who are just getting over being sick) at 16:00 pace.  That's right, we were running, technically.  My little heart was just melting 'cuz my sweet little 6 year-old held my hand the whole way.

I was nice and warmed up, and only wanted to do 2 miles tonight, so I decided to do the rest as a tempo run.  You'll never guess!  I averaged 9:31 pace.  Yea!  It didn't seem all that fast to me.  (Remember I usually run around 11:15 on the treadmill at incline 1). I just kept thinking "I hope I'm running around 10:00--not above 11:00.  Please!"  I trumped the 10 mile girl--who is missing several toes and whose arms are tied behind her, but still.  So the bottom line is that if I were to run that pace next week in the 5k I would meet my goal.  Yippee! 

I didn't even feel any pain or anything.  I think the thing that gave me the most pause was the sound of my breathing.  In the past whenever I have had to breathe that hard in a run, I'm in pain.  So by association (like Pavlov's dog) I kept expecting pain.  The only uncomfortable thing was a little bit of burning in my lungs deep down.  It's probably because the air here is so dry.  I'm sure it is not the lack of cardiovascular fitness after sitting on my rump for about 10 years and not doing any regular exercise.   I was comforted in the knowledge that some extremely fabulous runners reportedly make strange noises when they push themselves--not naming any names . . .

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From sarah on Thu, May 17, 2007 at 00:22:09

You are going to be catching up and passing me pretty soon....too bad we aren't close enough to train together...I don't think your husband (or mine for that matter) would like a 12 hour commute just for a morning jog with a friend...sigh...

Thanks for all your keep me going...I'm going to get my training partner blogging pretty soon and I'm trying to help this lady I know start running. She already has a blog but can never get out and run because she just can't make herself get up at 6:00 to do it (do you blame her?)

If she does start blogging her name is JoJo....or a Running Mom...check her out some time...I'll keep working on her..

From Lybi on Thu, May 17, 2007 at 02:31:01

That is the eternal conflict of sleep versus accomplishing things before kids wake up. If only I could wake up a couple hours earlier, run, get readay for the day, do a load of laundry & read scriptures, my whole day would be set. . . I have never been able to do it more than 3 days in a row. Oh well!

BTW I really appreciate your comments too. I really feel like I can never skip a day of running. One day I just missed and I got several comments about it. Accountability! Wow. Plus it's fun to keep in touch.

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Very easy pace.  2.5 on Fred, my treadmill.

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From sarah on Thu, May 17, 2007 at 23:59:35

Your treadmill's name is FRED?? That's the name my friends and I gave to our monthly visitor also commonly known as Aunt Edith or something along those lines....and also someone who doesn't really come visit me much more...

From Lybi on Fri, May 18, 2007 at 00:32:00

It's amazing how many Fred's there are out there. : )

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I lost 2 lbs. again this week.  The WW lady looked at me a little strangely and said to make sure I am eating enough.  (I started out in my healthy weight range to begin with--but if it's up to me, I'd rather be at the lower end of healthy than the high end, especially for running.)  I promise I am eating well, but I need to factor my exercise into my eating plan.  I haven't been bothering to figure it out.  This next week I'm just going to try for maintenance.  I don't want to stress my body and get sick.

I bought new shoes!  They are Brookes Adrenaline GTS7.   They are supposed to arrive tomorrow.  Yay!  When I had my gait analysis done, I took the opportunity to get 2 really great running outfits.  They felt and looked perfect at the store, but I have to admit, I got home and looked at the cranberry colored one and thought holy pink!    I'm going to look like a flamingo running down the street.  Good thing I usually run when it is dark.  Hopefully it will fade a little with hard use!

.5 with my little tiny guys.  3 miles on the treadmill nice and easy.  I definitely feel I could run farther.  I'm just trying to be gradual about my mileage so I stay strong.

Good luck all you bloggers who have big races this weekend!  I am so excited you would think I was running.  Thought for the day: the fear of failure is worse than failure itself, because the fear of failure can keep you from trying at all!  You will overcome!

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From christi on Fri, May 18, 2007 at 10:29:21

In part, thanks to you, I'm going to join WW and I'm really excited about it! I thought of going to a meeting today, but I thought that might not be a good idea before the weekend? Maybe a Monday start would be better? Anyway, I'll let you know how it goes. Right now I'm at the top of the healthy range and for me, its about 8 lbs too much. I really can't go this alone, I need structure!

As far as your comment about well rounded- really I think I've just been lazy about running since the 1/2 marathon. I hope to get my miles back up next week. Have a great weekend!

From James the hubby on Fri, May 18, 2007 at 12:23:16

Great job running - you didn't tell me you did 3 miles on the treadmill. 3.5 for the day would be the longest training run you have done so far, and your longest run since Pat's run. You are doing awesome - just keep up the good work! Love you!

From Maria on Fri, May 18, 2007 at 13:12:32

You're doing great, Lybi! I think your goal of 25 min. in 5K by November is way too conservative. You're likely to break 25 much sooner. When is your next race? You may surprise yourself! And, if you keep training consistently, you'll be closer to 23min. (or faster)in November. It is a great, thrilling ride to see yourself improve every race when you first start training. Enjoy it, and I hope you catch the bug :).

From Sasha Pachev on Fri, May 18, 2007 at 14:25:59

Christi - I would attribute Lybi's success to consistent running more than WW. WW advice for her was to get fatter!

From Lybi on Fri, May 18, 2007 at 18:05:32

I think WW has helped. Exercising alone has never helped me lose weight because I just eat more--same thing with nursing a baby. Dieting alone is too depressing to do very long. Diet and exercise are the perfect combo for me. You just need to do what works for you, Christi. I'm sure you'll reach your goal soon.

Maria and James thanks so much for the encouragement! I'm beaming right now.

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On treadmill, slow.  I ran in my new shoes today for the first time.   It felt a little weird.


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From christi on Sat, May 19, 2007 at 22:57:57

Joined WW today! I'm pumped. Its nice to have a plan! Although I went to the mtg. then immediately to the lake w/ family and out to eat- then after I got home tonight figured my points- used up 13 of my bonus pts today!!!! That was a real eye opener- funny really! You'll have to tell me if you break in your new shoes OK. I ran in cushiony Asics for about 4 yrs. and loved them. But started really pronating on 1 foot- so I changed to more stable shoes- Saucony this time. But the Saucony give me a blister everyime in the same place and they are broken in. Oh well. May try to find some Asics w/ more stablity for my next pair. I think my feet are too wide for Brooks...

From Lybi on Sat, May 19, 2007 at 23:26:59

Congratulations! You are going to do so well. I usually use most of my bonus points on the weekend, too. It does take a little while to really figure out what is a low point meal that still satifies. My favorite for lunch is a nice non-creamy soup, like chicken noodle. 2 pts. for a cup! I like home-made best, but Progresso is nice to have around for a qick emergency meal.

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1 mile with my little boys nice & slow.  Then a tempo mile in 8:50.  That's a new record for me since starting up again.  I guess the 9 minute mile girl knows who I am now.  She's relatively healthy, but usually only runs on her way to the donut shop.  Ug, I'm kinda tired now.  One strange thing is that I don't think my lungs were what kept me from going faster.  My legs keep sending me question marks.  (What the heck are we doing here?  You can't be serious etc.)  Also my arms got sluggish.  How to fix . . .

Next week I'm planning 4-5 slow miles on Mon., 2 on Tues.  3, 3, 1 and then my 5K on Sat.  Sound okay? 

Tonight I exceeded my weekly mileage goal of 15 miles by 1.  So that's a new record for weekly training so far!  

Wasn't it exciting reading all those race reports today?  It is so wonderful to see the race from all these exceptional runners' points of view.  Next time I need to focus I'm gonna pretend I'm finishing the Odgen Marathon 2 minutes ahead of everyone else--just about to set a course record. ; )  Or maybe I can get the focus off myself a bit and think about helping someone else have a great last 1/2 mile.  Sasha, that was so inspiring!

Warning:  Completely Non-Running Stuff

I had a sweet little thing happen today.  I took my kids swimming at a neighborhood pool.  I was sitting there at the side of the pool and a teeny little dog toting a retractable leash ran through the fence past a bunch of other people and jumped right into my lap.  It was soooo cute!  It looked like a German Shepherd, but was the size of a tea cup poodle.  I held onto it for a little while, waiting for a worried owner to appear and collect it.  Nobody showed up so I took my kids for a little walk and carried this exhausted little pooch towards some nearby houses.  The first door that opened when I knocked had a little girl sobbing over a lost dog.  The family asked me how on earth did I know which house to go to and said that I was an angel!  Little did they know I just walked up to one randomly (or not).  It was just sweet.  The dog turned out to be a short-haired Pomeranian puppy--just purchased a week ago.  Cute!

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From James the hubby on Sun, May 20, 2007 at 14:22:17

Way to go with your training! And good job on the post-HS record on your mile. You are doing a good job of building up slowly. I know you are going to have a great race on Saturday.

From Maria on Sun, May 20, 2007 at 15:30:32

When you first start training consistently or after a long break, the lungs and heart get in shape faster than muscles and ligaments. That's why you feel like your lungs are ahead of your legs! Give it some time and be patient, and soon your legs will catch up. Keep up the great work!

From ashman on Sun, May 20, 2007 at 16:26:22

Thanks for your comments, I like the way you lighten things up on this blog.

From Brent on Sun, May 20, 2007 at 23:07:28

Thanks for your comments, congrads on your week of training. I wonder if the little girl will remember your good deed and pay it forward some day. No doubt, good deeds are contagious.

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I did it!  I woke up early and ran easy for an hour to get my longish run in.  This is by the far the longest run I've had so far.  Happily, I am less tired after this run than I used to be after running just 2 miles.  I'm so glad I made it past those first few weeks when I was just tired all the time!

I'm making everyone on this blog a promise.  Every night this week I will get my darn self in bed by 10:30.  On penalty of sniffing my husband's socks after a run.  EW!!!  (Sorry James.)


Later that night (by 5 pm really). . .  "I am exhausted . . .  All non-essential systems shutting down . . . I can hardly move . . . all energy focused to type  fdasjkajfd;k. . .things are getting blurry. . . z z z ."


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From James the hubby on Mon, May 21, 2007 at 14:05:39

Great job on your long run - I knew you could do it! I am happy to see the changes in your energy since you started running - I am certain that it has had a positive effect on you.

Maybe you should make the penalty sniffing my smelly running shorts or shirt instead . . . might be more of an incentive than my socks, which don't really smell that bad (I think) :) On the other hand, that might be enough to knock you out at night if you are having a hard time getting to bed (he he)

From Mik'L on Mon, May 21, 2007 at 21:34:07

Clyde informed me today that you live in the Phoenix area. Since I am in Phoenix, he said we should have set up a run together! Oh well! I am leaving tomorrow and I don't have a car here anyway. Thanks for the fun and encouraging comments though! Good job on getting in a good fiver.

From Mik'L on Mon, May 21, 2007 at 21:36:10

Clyde informed me today that you live in the Phoenix area. Since I am in Phoenix, he said we should have set up a run together! Oh well! I am leaving tomorrow and I don't have a car here anyway. Thanks for the fun and encouraging comments though! Good job on getting in a good fiver.

From ashman on Tue, May 22, 2007 at 08:30:59

Thanks for the encouragement. It will not be long before 5 miles will be easy like brushing your teeth. Good work Lybi.

From Lybi on Tue, May 22, 2007 at 09:37:06

Grin grin grin!

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I ran sub-6:00!  I ran sub-6:00!

You doubt?  It's true.  I was out the door at 5:50 am and ran 2 miles (at about 10:00 pace).  He he.  If I ever really do break 6 minutes for a mile, it would be the equivalent of a medal at the Olympics for me. 

I'm really happy with this run.   First of all it was a recovery run, so I really didn't push it.  I just ran normally.  PLUS I negative split it.  First mile in 10:02, second in 9:50.  Without too much effort.  Yea!  I think I just tend to run faster when I run outside than I do on Fred.  Fred is boring.   It was such a nice morning, too!  I can't believe it was so cool.  Nice.

BTW I got to bed on time last night.

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From Dave Holt on Tue, May 22, 2007 at 13:35:31

I think you're insane!

From James the hubby on Tue, May 22, 2007 at 14:57:27

If you think she is insane, I got up at 4:45 this morning to do my run . . . or maybe it's the naming of the treadmill . . .

Congrats on the run - there is no doubt in my mind you will be able to break 30:00 on Saturday.

From Lybi on Tue, May 22, 2007 at 15:00:31

Ha ha. I guess I must be in the right sport then. I guess I can't blame you, sometimes I put some rather odd things out there. In my defense, however, people who know me well do not share your opinion. I'm just SPUNKY!

From Mik'L on Tue, May 22, 2007 at 15:01:08

Ya, today would not have worked for me, but maybe next time! If James is running St. George this year(?), you'll have to come up early and do a run with the St. George Running Club girls. :)

From Mik'L on Tue, May 22, 2007 at 15:03:07

Ya, today would not have worked for me, but maybe next time! If James is running St. George this year(?), you'll have to come up early and do a run with the St. George Running Club girls. :)

From Sasha Pachev on Tue, May 22, 2007 at 17:53:21

Lybi - running 2 miles sub-10:00 on average and calling it recovery after less than two months of introductory training shows that sub-6:00 all out mile is a very real possibility in the future. And sub-6:00 for the time you start is a key ingredient to running a sub-6:00 mile. I think you might be ready for the day does not end until you've got 3 miles on the odometer. Try alternating 2 and 3 mile days and see how you handle it.

On another subject, I've got a piano question. I've been practicing about 15 minutes a day 5 days a week. I got to the point where I can do what I call pseudo sight reading. I can play the alto and soprano part with one hand after some practice (maybe a couple of sessions) for the hymns I've heard before. I do have to look at the notes, which is a good sign, I think - it means I am reading them as I play rather than memorizing. My eventual goal is to be able to play all parts of the hymns well enough to where one could sing to it. What would be the next step you would recommend?

From Lybi on Wed, May 23, 2007 at 00:57:50

Thanks Sasha! Wow, you really know how to boost the ol' morale. I needed that.

About piano. Great job! You've improved a lot since the last time I saw you. Tenancity is one of your strengths. I'll email you my suggestions.

From Dave Holt on Wed, May 23, 2007 at 11:54:13

I did mean that in a positive way! Unfortunately James, it isn't the early running that labels one insane - As a fellow desert runner, I often find the joy of the alarm waking me well before 5 to get going - it is what you do with the rest of your time that gets you there!

And Lybi: MiKL labeled ME insane, and I just don't think that is fair!

From Lybi on Wed, May 23, 2007 at 17:22:40

I think at this point I am more inclined to trust Mik'L's judgement than yours, Mr. He Who Treads On Rattlesnakes. : )

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Easy 5K  this evening outside.  30:53.  Average pace 9:58.  Felt pretty comfortable--other than that my headphones kept popping out of my ears!  I had to keep wrangling with the wires.  Evidently they were made for more manly ears like my hubby's.  I'll try a different set of ear phones tomorrow.  I am debating whether or not to use music in my race on Sat.   I had been planning on it, but I've been reading a lot of posts about ipods not enhancing races.  I don't know.  Any thoughts?

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From ashman on Thu, May 24, 2007 at 08:38:18

I say ditch the i-pod. Find your own music on the road. I have on the other hand listened to them before a run to get pumped up. just my two cents.

From Mark on Thu, May 24, 2007 at 09:11:04

I like to run 5K's with music. I think it has helped me. But make sure you get your headphones in order because that has distracted me and slowed me down before, which defeats the purpose of bringing music to go faster. I like headphones which have behind the ear hooks.

From Michelle on Thu, May 24, 2007 at 10:27:02

Hey, NIce to hear from you! I love reading your comments. It's taken me a week or two to get the courage to give this a try. So I've been eavesdropping for a bit. But you've all been pretty motivating so here goes! It's a little cold this A.M so I'm kinda procrastinating but I better get on with it before the day gets to crazy!

From Sasha Pachev on Thu, May 24, 2007 at 19:28:58

Almost cracked Paul's 10 K PR and that was easy! Benjamin did something similar in October of 2004. He ran around 30:30 in training a couple of weeks before the race - I just wanted to see how he would cope with the distance as he had never run that long before. Then on race day he ran 27:25 with the last mile in 8:20, which also gave him his mile PR at the time. He would not have called his training 5 K easy. I think it is realistic for you to expect to beat his time of 27:25.

Regarding the iPod - I second Steve's advice - find the music within yourself. One thing you may want to try - record BINGO played to the beat of 190 then listen to it right before the race enough times to make it stick in your head. The entire race do not talk to anybody, play BINGO in your head, and use your steps as the metronome.

From Lybi on Fri, May 25, 2007 at 02:03:18

Thanks for your comments everyone! I think I am going to bring my music and not turn it on unless I am really struggling with negative thoughts. Then, of course, I could always visualize Sasha running up to me and shouting Bingo in my ear, and don't I dare say no! That would really get me going.

Wow. I would really feel good about running in the 27 range. I'll do my best to prove you right, Sasha!

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1.2 REALLY  slow miles with my 2, 4, and 6 year old (the 2 year old does about .2 of that).

1.8 Slow miles on the treadmill.

1.6 pounds lost this week.  5.6 total.  So now I am finally lower than pre-running weight.  (For some reason I gained 4-5 lbs. the first month after I started running.)

I'm getting to bed slightly late, but not enough to actually follow through with the heinous consequences I set up for myself.  : )

1 easy mile tomorrow and then my 5 K on Sat.  (1st one in 12 years!)

I just have to say that I am sooo proud of my star piano student.  He just passed off his level 6 requirements for the DVMTA Achievement Day and got a huge trophy.  Good job Runner's High James!

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From Brent on Fri, May 25, 2007 at 18:53:59

Good luck on your 5K, diets are tough, thanks for your ocmments. I look forward to reading your race report.

From Heber on Fri, May 25, 2007 at 19:41:08

Good luck on the 5k. I'll be thinking about you!

From Lybi on Fri, May 25, 2007 at 23:51:16

Heber! You got my email! I'm gonna miss you all at the reunion next week. We'll survive, though. What are you up to with your running?

Brent, I'll keep sending out those ocmments as fast as I can. : )

From sarah on Fri, May 25, 2007 at 23:56:01

James said something to Sasha about running the 10 miler in friend and I are planning on running it...really slow(well I'll run slow and she may pick it up at the end...she's kind of crazy that way) I thought you guys were coming up in July for a renunion...was it June?

From Lybi on Sat, May 26, 2007 at 00:02:26

Yep it's June--what is it, 2 weeks away? Wow, Cool! I'll see you there! I'll be shepherding 3 little boys at the finish line.

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Just a quick shoe check.  I've been having some arch pain and some hip pain these last few runs.  I was wondering if it was my new shoes.  So I ran 1/2 a mile on the treadmill first in my new shoes, then another 1/2 in my old.  No question, my new shoes are more cushioned, but my arches feel a lot better in my old shoes.  I guess I'll be using my old shoes tomorrow.  Luckily I can send back these shoes for full credit through Road Runner Sports.  I'll get a new pair of Asics like my old ones.

I also went to the chiropractor today about my hip.  He did some gentle adjustments with the activator and chastened me for not doing any weight training.  He said I was a candidate for osteoporosis someday if I don't. (Jeez!  How'd he know?)  So I've gotta figure that out.  He recommended I cut back on the mileage for next week to about 10, and no running on the road or sidewalk.  Just grass, track, or treadmill. 

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From ashman on Sat, May 26, 2007 at 18:08:46

Lybi, run how you feel. If it still hurts after warm up still then stop and try a couple of days later. Anyway, I wanted to ask you a question. How long does it take for an average piano student to learn how to play Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata? This being from a beginning point with no experience.

From Heber on Sat, May 26, 2007 at 23:43:14

I've had hip trouble also. However it seems not to have anything to do with my shoes but rather with my core muscles and the other muscles that stabilize the hip like the gluteus medius. Try some core strengthening exercises and focus on your form when you run and see if that doesn't help. (The arch pain probably is from your shoes of course).

From Lybi on Sun, May 27, 2007 at 00:59:05

Thanks you guys. I actually felt fabulous today. Absolutely NO hip pain. I thank my chiropractor for that. He said my lower back was out & causing a pelvic torsion . . .

NO arch pain either today. I put a cheapo Dr. Scholls arch support in my new running shoes and felt no complaints at all from my feet.

Core muscle strength would help prevent my pelvic torsion, I am sure. I'm sure it would help if I stopped carrying my humongous 2 year old on one hip, too.

Heber, I would love to be reading about your runs . . . ;)

From Heber on Sun, May 27, 2007 at 09:50:42

Not much to read since I'm not a writer. Also I just ran the last race of the season for me (3k, 11:41). It's too hot to run anymore. I'm switching to the bike until September.

Race: Sunset Run For Shade 5K (3.1 Miles) 00:27:37, Place overall: 13, Place in age division: 5
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Ouch.  I feel awful!  So that's good I guess.  I put it all out there.  Here's how the race went down:

I felt super hot and even dry-mouthed before we even started.  It was about 95 F.  No breeze at all.

I ran the first mile WAY too fast.  I didn't realize how fast I took it out, but I started seeing spots around the 1/2 mile and slowed down.   They had big timers going at the mile marks so you could see your splits--that was awesome & it saved me.  As I was closing on the first mile, I saw 7 something and freaked out a little.  My goal was 9:00 for the 1st mile.   1st mile in 8:00.  I had lost the ability to swallow by this point.   One amazing thing that happened in this mile--I saw the most astounding shooting star of my life.  More like a flaming blue meteor, really.  I've always taken shooting starts as a good omen. 

The second mile I consciously slowed down to try not to die.   There was a prominent hill in this mile. We were to run up it and back down.  As I just started going up I saw James flying down.  He looked awesome!   I did not feel good at all this whole mile. Thank goodness for the water stations.  I really think I may not have finished the race if I hadn't grabbed 2 cups at each one.  One to take a sip from and throw in my face, and the other to soak my shirt with.  At the end of the second mile, I think my time was 17:00, so that would put me at 9:00 for that mile. 

The third mile my music carried me in.   This was the mile I had to keep brushing away the pesky little question "Why the heck did I have to take up running?!  I could be learning to cross stitch right now!"  My favorite song came on at the crucial point--"Breaking Free"  I know I picked it up when it came on, although I was fading.  I tried to come in hard.  James said I looked strong coming in.  3rd mile probably in about 9:37, .1 in 1 min. or so.  Final time 27:37.   Sasha, your ability to predict my time is AMAZING!  Within what, 10 seconds!

Recovery was pretty slow.  It took me a good 5-10 minutes to stop breathing REALLY fast, and 10-15 more, probably, to start breathing normally.  My throat still burns terribly and I have lost my voice almost completely.  Other than that, my quads and calves are a little bit sore.  HEY! But good news:  absolutely NO hip pain or arch pain.  I credit the chiropractor for the hip & some arch supports in my new shoes for the comfy feet. 

I didn't even come close to feeling okay until I took off my shoes and soaked my feet in a very cold decorative fountain and poured water bottles all over myself.  Actually, I got in trouble!  A policeman came and told me to get out of the fountain, and I was thinking "Don't you have anything better to do than tell over-heated piano teachers to stop dangling their feet in a little water?  Go keep someone from getting mugged in the parking lot, for goodness sakes."  But of course, all I said was "Yes sir.  I'm sorry."

I didn't see very many girls in front of me, and sure enough, I came in 13th out of 93 female runners.  5th in my age division.  Isn't that an improvement from my last race!?  Thank goodness for slow runners!

My pace per mile this race was 8:56.  Less than 2 months ago, my pace was 11:30 for a 4.2 mile race.  I feel really good about that.

My goals for this race were to

1.  Run under 30:40 or whatever it is, Paul Peterson's best 10K time (used with permision.)  Goal MET!  Goal smashed!

2.  Have the courage to run fast.  Give it my all.  Run 'til I yak.  I thought it was the most admirable thing ever when Ally threw up 5-6 times after pushing herself in a meet.  I mean, here she is just a teenager, and she has the courage to push it that hard.  It takes a lot of inner strength to do that.  For me, I'm going to call this goal met.  I think I had heat exhaustion.  I haven't yakked yet, but it is still a possibility.  I'm queasy.

3.  Be positive about my effort and recognize progress--don't compare myself to anyone but me.  Goal met.  I feel proud.  But I'm not satisfied . . . 

I can't wait 'til my next race!

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From Maria on Sun, May 27, 2007 at 06:39:32

Big congrats on the post-HS PR, Lybi! You did great, especially considering the heat. You made a classic mistake of going out too fast, but it's good, actually - you now know what happens when you do that. You'll learn the art of pacing with experience, but your first mile confirms what I always thought - you have good speed, just need to get your endurance up to match this speed, and you'll be flying! I'm sure you'll be faster than your HS PR, including the mile, if you keep up the training. Regarding soreness, I hope you won't ever feel it from this race, but just as word of caution - there is something called DOMS, delayed onset muscle soreness, which comes on 24-48 hours AFTER the race (or any all out effort). So your real test will be Sunday-Monday. For me, it takes 24 hours.

From Heber on Sun, May 27, 2007 at 10:07:01

Yay! Congrats to you little sis. Almost everyone goes out too fast on their first mile if they haven't been racing recently. What that means is that you could have had an even better time if you had paced more evenly. So you are probably in better shape than you think.

Muscle soreness is an interesting thing. I think it tells us when we have done something we haven't trained for. Here's something that may help. You body adapts to do the workload you train for. Workload is specific both to distance and speed. It's called the principle of specificity. So if you want to run a 5k (for instance) at a certain pace for mile then you should do some specific training for that event. Run 1-mile repeats, 3 of them since that adds up almost to 5k, at your goal pace. In between repeats you can rest or walk slowly if you want. That way your legs get used to doing that pace for 5k. As you get better at that you can switch to two repeats of 1.5 miles or 2 miles, rest, then 1 mile. But keep the same pace. When the race arrives just leave out the rest (which is easier than you would think) and you're in. Furthermore your legs don't hurt because they've been used to doing that.

From Jacqueline (Mom) on Sun, May 27, 2007 at 11:11:58

Congratulations! I am proud of you. You are an inspiration to me and to your boys. I hope you are not too sore. Love you lots. Mom

From Archie (Dad) on Sun, May 27, 2007 at 11:53:58

Good going Dear Lybi! We are proud of you. Keep up the good work. Love Dad

From Brent on Sun, May 27, 2007 at 13:20:12

Lybi, most entertaining blog description of a race ever. No doubt, 50 commando points, you could have packed it in after the fast start.

Hey, I agree, as soon as the cop was gone, I would be back in the fountain, Italians know what fountains are for.

Hey, have you started a race scrapebook? Races like yours, especially if you got pictures are great, journal you story.

Lastly, you missed out on another 20 commando points by not barfing.

Mom and Dad on the blog, runners?

From James the hubby on Sun, May 27, 2007 at 15:06:23

Way to go honey! You did a marvelous job. I know I said it last night, but just seconding what Maria said, there is no doubt that you have much more in you with some more training under your belt to increase your endurance. I also agree that running the repeats, or tempo runs at your 5K race pace will help you to get used to the pace you want to run, and will also help your legs to be used to that pace so that you are not super sore and can maintain that pace. The tempo runs have an added benefit of increasing your cardio-respiratory fitness as they are more taxing on your body than the easy runs which are designed to build your endurance. I am so proud of you!

From Mik'L on Sun, May 27, 2007 at 16:36:20

Great job Lybi! I am impressed with your time, since I don't think I could run it. Good job on meeting all of your goals too!

From Aaron on Sun, May 27, 2007 at 17:14:34

Way to go. Great report. Sounds like the foot is feeling better!

From Rebecca (sister) on Sun, May 27, 2007 at 20:26:04

Wow. Sounds like you're doing great stuff with your running. Congratulations on your first race in a long time.

From Sasha Pachev on Mon, May 28, 2007 at 17:14:24

Lybi - congratulations on a great race! Only a couple of months of training, and you are already within 4 minutes of your high school PR. That is very impressive for a mother of three young children, and shows that you have great potential. I estimate if you continue to train consistently you will break your high school PR in about a year.

The first mile in 8:00 shows that a good portion of your body is ready to run that pace the whole way. In fact faster, because you slowed down before you reached the first mile marker. It is only a matter of time before the rest of the body catches up. Just continue putting in your 3 miles of easy running a day gradually increasing as you become more fit, and probably in another 3-4 months you'll be sub-25:00, very likely even faster. No need for any kind of speed work, that 8:00 mile opener shows you have plenty of speed.

It is nice to see that your family is following your progress, and especially how many people there are to offer you support.

Regarding soreness/feeling bad/etc. 5 K is a very painful race when run properly. When I am in shape to run a good 5 K, if my goal is to minimize pain, I'd choose the marathon any day over it. 5 K has an anaerobic sting to it that just hurts.

From Lybi on Mon, May 28, 2007 at 18:40:01

Thanks for the comments everyone!

Don't I have a great family? My sister Rebecca was the first runner in my family. I never would've run in high school if it had not been for her example. My parents mainly run for office. : ) But they gave me their big hearts and so that's good for distance, I guess.

From Michael on Tue, May 29, 2007 at 11:11:24

Great attitude, Great Goals, keep going after it, only you can stop yourself

From christi on Thu, May 31, 2007 at 13:05:21

I'm a little slow- just saw your race report. Way to go! I really think you should take up writing- you have a talent to tell great stories! Love reading your blog. Your consistency on trying to run 6 days a week inspires me. Keep it up!

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Once again, I REALLY didn't feel like running today, but as soon as I got started I felt fine.  Glad I did it.

2.6 miles at 5 mph on the ol' treadmill.

I'm not really that sore from Saturday's race, except in my shoulders and (weirdly) inner thighs.  Plus my throat is still sore.  The first mile of the 5K was in a big dirt parking lot (not very scenic) and I must've inhaled a pound of dust.  Blech.


.5 tonight with my kiddos plus time spent playing tag (fartleks?)

Gotta get in those 3 miles a day.  My weekly mileage for the last four weeks has been:





So if I go 3 miles all 6 days this week I'll be at 18, which is a new record! 

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From Brent on Mon, May 28, 2007 at 20:34:02

Nice recovery run, it is important to get back to running and work out the kinks. Hope to get the Garmin delivered this week. What is your next race?

From Michelle on Mon, May 28, 2007 at 20:56:27

Hey loved your comments of the race saturday! Sounds like things went really well. When I do get ready to do my next race, I hope to do that well. You obviously had a good experience if your excited about your next race! Very inspiring! Keep up the comments

From Lybi on Tue, May 29, 2007 at 00:10:54

I think my next race is on July 4th. There aren't very many races right now here in the Valley of the Sun because it's the off-season. I'm glad I'll have a little more time to get in shape bc I want to see a big improvement!

From sarah on Tue, May 29, 2007 at 00:24:00

Congrats on your race...Sasha was beaming with joy when he told me about how well you and James did on your races. We are excited to see you both in a couple of weeks.

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Like the picture of my brother, Grant?  He's a character.  I've got family on the mind bc we are going to a fam reunion this weekend.  Yay!

3 miles outside at 10:29 pace (average).  I've decided to chuck the chiropractor's advice out the window about reducing my miles this week.  My hip feels great.  It's funny.  I think I've discovered something about hip pain and knee pain.  Follow.  I have three possible shoe combinations. 

1.) Old Asics shoes--completely worn out, little cushioning, however, the arch is perfect for me.  Wearing these shoes leads to heel pain/sore feet in the morning becaue of lack of cushioning.

2.) New Brookes Shoes.  Great cushioning, but the arch is just a little tiny bit too low for my feet.  Wearing these shoes leads to hip pain after a while and sharp pain in the arch during running. 

3.) New Brookes shoes with cheapo Dr. Scholls arch support in them: fabulous cushioning, but it makes the arch TOO high for me.  I feel like I run on the outside of my feet.  This leads to knee pain for me. 

Pain is all about SHOES! Arch too high=knee pain.  Arch too low=hip pain.  Worn out shoes=heel pain.  At least that's how it's worked out for me.  I can't wait until I get my new shoes.  Until then, I'll just keep changing things around.  Probably end up on the old treadmill in the old shoes.  That's the safest thing, I guess.  *Sigh*

Has anyone else noticed trends in what aggravates/brings on pain during running?  I mean, other than the normal . . . pain . . . that you . . normally . . . ag!  You know what I mean.  We should gather some data!

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From Maria on Wed, May 30, 2007 at 02:14:08

Lybi, try new pair of Asics, if their arch fits your foot. Shoe fit is important, and you should not have any pain from the shoes you're wearing. Brooks may not be the right fit for you. Sometimes it's hard to find the right shoe, that's why people tend to stick with one make/model as long as they can once they find it. For me, Asics and Mizuno are the best, but I also found one Adidas model (Supernova Cushion) that works fairly well. Good luck!

From Christi on Wed, May 30, 2007 at 07:53:25

Hi Lybi. I have the same problem finding perfect shoes! I'm in Saucony now but plan on going back to Asics. WW is great! I did pretty bad the first week staying in my points, but now I know why the scale has been climbing these past couple years- I was eating way too much! I like having to be more picky about what I eat. I find I'm getting alot more water and veggies and trying to eat more fiber & protein that will STICK w/ me. WW makes some OK ice cream treats as well. Lost .6 the first week and I wasn't even behaving as well as I should. Doing better this week and looking forward to losing more!

From Maria on Wed, May 30, 2007 at 10:16:54

Lybi, I'm getting intrigued with all this WW stuff! I also have another friend that was hugely successful with it few years ago. I'm not really overweight by "regular" standards, but I'd like to drop ~10lbs for better running. Problem is, I'm already at my HS weight, so I'm not sure I can lose anymore. I try to make healthy choices, but when I cut calories I get really hungry! My BMI is 21, I'm almost at a point where WW won't let me join, but I checked and they will let me in, I can lose 8lbs before I fall below their min. healthy weight. Do you think WW is a good fit for me? How do you evaluate the point value of your meal if you eat out? My husband is telling me it's a waste of money, but I don't know.

From Michelle on Wed, May 30, 2007 at 13:24:54

Ya last night after 5 miles I felt great! Now this morning after 3 miles not so "perky"! I sometimes compare it to my favorite ice cream or kryspy cream doughnuts. You eat the first one or two and they taste great! Then the next day because they were so good you think you'll try them again. But the second time they are never as good as you remebered. I'm not sure that makes sense but I'm sure there is some kindof analogy there, pherhaps no wisdom though! I do know there is no guilt with the next day running like there is with the ice cream or doughnuts! Good luck with the shoes, not enough experience to offer any advice!

From James the hubby on Wed, May 30, 2007 at 13:27:54

Remind me when I get home and I will get the return process started for your Brooks. Hurray for Road Runner Sports and their unconditional 60-day guarantee on shoes.

From Brent on Thu, May 31, 2007 at 00:03:17

Hum, how about Wive Riders, my wife loves them. They are a nuetral shoe. Good luck. RRS is great, we have sent back many shoes over the years looking for the right shoe.

From Heber on Thu, May 31, 2007 at 13:27:49

I used to worry a lot about shoes but I don't anymore. Pain comes from the way we run. Shoes can change that and so change where we feel the pain. A perfect pair of shoes might get rid of the pain. But I think it's better to change the way I run. With practice you can learn to run in a way that doesn't stress your body so that shoes become a non-issue. Did you know the best ultra runners in the world run in sandals? They are the Tarahumara indians in Mexico. They make their own sandals and race 100 to 150 miles in them. Don't try making your own sandals, that's not the point. Try to learn to run like they do.

Here are a few checks.

Can you hear your footsteps when you run? Most beginning runners can be heard coming 50 yards away. What they do is hit with their heel and then you hear the SLAP of the rest of their foot hitting the pavement. Heel striking is bad for your speed and hard on your body.

Where are your eyes focused on when you run? Most beginning runners bend too much at the waist such that their eyes are on the ground about 10 or 20 feet in front of them. Look at the picture of Sasha finishing that marathon. His upper body is fully upright. His gaze looks like it is 100 yards ahead or more. He's not looking at the ground.

So try this. Stand up straight: rotate your pelvis until it is level, chest high, eyes are looking way down the road. Now as you run concentrate on pushing your body forward compared to where your feet hit. You want you feet to hit while they are under you center of gravity. If you are doing it right then your footfalls will become very quiet because your foot will contact the ground flat, not heel first. Also let you ankle be as loose as possible. When you lift up your foot from the ground just let the foot hang. When you put it back down it will be in the right position. No dorsiflexion.

A funny thing about good running form is that it is only hard at slow speeds. When you run fast your body automatically moves into better form. So doing some strides or fartlek (or whatever you want to call short bursts of sprinting) will help train you body. To keep good form when you are going slow make sure to bring your heels up high behind you. No shuffling.

Love you,


From Sasha Pachev on Thu, May 31, 2007 at 13:54:31


I wholeheartedly agree with your husband. WW is a pure waste of money. If you cannot discipline yourself, nobody can do it for you. If you can discipline yourself, you do not need to pay anybody for it. If you are in between, learn to discipline yourself.

I would recommend eating healthy in whatever amount your sense of hunger tells you to. One problem with junk food is that it alters the taste to make you eat more than what your body requires. Healthy natural foods have a balance of ingredients that will trigger the satiation reflexes properly.

Lybi - I tend to agree with Heber on shoes. I think the more you run, the more time passes, and the more consistent you are the less a shoe would matter. However, if one shoe causes injury and another does not, by all means wear the one that does not.

From Lybi on Thu, May 31, 2007 at 16:08:34

Heber, thanks for all that running info. The truth is that I don't know very much about running form. I've seen people hunched over badly and thought "I hope I don't run like that!" Thanks for the info.

From James in Sunny AZ on Thu, May 31, 2007 at 20:00:06

I have a different perspective on WW. One of the things I like about WW is that it teaches you how to discipline yourself in terms of eating. Sometimes that is the one thing that is lacking in achieving healthy weight loss. Some people need the structure of a meeting with others to motivate them, some need the accountability to others. Personally, I used a version of weightwatchers (online version) to lose almost 25 pounds. For me, it helped me to realize what healthy portion sizes were, as we were already eating pretty healthy food. One of the other nice things about WW is that they have taken the time to set up the points system, which is based on total calories, fat calories and dietary fiber. I think the decision to use WW should be a personal one based on circumstances. I don't think WW is for everyone, but I do think it can be a good tool, if used properly.

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I ran 2 on the treadmill this morning, so at least that's good.  I have really got to develop the habit of getting it done in the AM.  It was less than 9 hours from my run last night, so I dragged a little.  .6 with my little ones tonight. 

Today I tried a new thing with my piano lessons.  I took all the students and stuck them on one day.  Back to back piano lessons from 8 am to 6 pm--stopping only briefly to eat.  All I can say is that I have a healthy respect for anyone who works 8 hours a day (or more).  I am pretty fried!  But now, no more lessons 'til next week--unless someone forgets and comes on the wrong day.  I am filled with dread every time the doorbell rings and I am not expecting someone.  Usually there is a little piano student that I had forgot I rescheduled.   I think that actually happened while you were at my house, Sasha and Sarah. 

OH!  That reminds me.  I found the mountain lion.  There is a cat on the other side of the lake (by the park) who is HUGE and tan and has been mistaken for a mountain lion several times.  But it's just a cat.  For those of you who are not Pachevs, we had an interesting morning while they were here.  Someone (3 people) wrang the doorbell and told us there was a mountain lion on our roof.  Animal control came out and everything.  But for goodness sakes!  We live in the middle of a city!  In a subdivision!  There was much drama at the time, though.  "Where the heck are all 8 kids under 8 years of age?"  It was a bonding experience.

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From Wildbull on Thu, May 31, 2007 at 11:15:26

Hi Lybia,

As a master runner I have found that a small break from running in the middle of the week has helped me recover. I started going to a spinning class a few months ago and found it to be alot of fun. We Spin with music and the instructor controls the tempo and tells us to turn up the resistance. The class lasts one hour. there is usually about 4-8 people in each class. great job on your last race.

From Jim on Thu, May 31, 2007 at 11:48:32

Hi Lybi,

Why do I prefer ultras? Hmmm, several reasons. First, not many people do them, only around 1500 people in this country will run a 100 mile race this year. Contrast that to the over 400,000 that will run a marathon and the untold millions that will run something shorter. I like to be just a little different and not follow the crowd. Second, there's ego involved. I like it when people are impressed with the running I do, even though it's slow. It's fun to be able to do something that very, very few people can do or want to do. Third, I think they are actually easier. You typically aren't running as fast as you can, thus you aren't breathing hard for what seems like forever. My heart rate typically will remain at around 80% of max for the race, with short stretches higher going uphill. Fourth, the places to run. I would never run Salt Lake marathon because who wants to run in the city when there are fantastic, beautiful trails thru gorgeous mountains, with fantastic scenery to look at. Fifth, I think of ultras as adventures. A 100 mile race takes me from 24-34 hours, that's an adventure, not a race. Sixth, the people at ultras are a completely different crowd than at road races. It's a smaller crowd and you'll see the same people at different races all across the country. Much nicer and more outgoing. We help each other out on the trail, hang out after the race and share stories about other races. Even the winners will many times hang out at the finish line and congratulate everyone as they cross. Try to find that at a marathon. There's along answer to why I like ultras better than road races. You should try one. Don't let the distance intimidate you.

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Feeling lazy today.  I've been on the blog a lot seeking motivation.  I had almost decided not to run today until I read a really cool comment by Ultrajim regarding what an ultra marathon is all about.  Thanks Jim.  You gave the final nudge.

On treadmill. 5-6 mph.  Last little bit at 8 mph.  I tried to work on my form--good posture and lead with my torso.   No pain and I felt great!


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From Heber on Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 10:49:17

Good! It takes some concentration in the begining to learn good form but soon it becomes second nature. I used to wear shoes with pronation control. Now I wear Nike Free which feel like socks. Pronation is largely a matter of form also. Try this experiment. Stand normally and notice where on your foot you feel most of the weight. Now rotate your pelvis (tuck in your bottom). Where is the weight now? It has shifted away from the inside of your foot. Pronation gone. Like magic.

Love you little sis,


From Lybi on Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 11:51:32

C'mon Heber! You should have your own blog so I can write cool things on it like you! Only it is much more likely to be something like: "Ummmm... Keep up the good work! Yes. doing what you are doing. And...ah... see if you can do it even more in the future." You're quite the expert here, bro. Leave it to you to take something primitive like running and turn it into a doctoral thesis! Just kidding. : )

From Brent on Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 21:25:23

Only a brother could give you such advice. Good luck with your new shoes. By the way, changing your form can take months, it is not easy to get away from your natural running. I have a little different approach, concentrate on being light on you feet and smooth without regard to speed. Commando points, once earned, you must do something really bad to lose them.

From michelle on Sat, Jun 02, 2007 at 00:25:10

Heck yes I would be! I thought that a 10 min. pace wasn't that great, but if your passing guys with that, thats encouraging enough for me! I rarely (basically never) see anyone running, unless it's a rare morning and I go with my husband and then I just see his dust!

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Sicker.  ER visit.

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Still sick.  Fever persists.

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Fever gone.  (Thank goodness for antibiotics!)  Weak weak weak. Knees buckle under me after walking on the beach for half an hour.

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Yesterday I returned from a very interesting vacation.  I woke up Friday with a swallowing-razor-blades sore throat, packed up and left to go to CA.  By the time we got there I had a pretty bad fever and was all but delirious.  That night I shivered and moaned all night and my fever got scary.  The next day I went to the ER.  Thankfully, I barely remember that day.  I had a pretty bad strep infection.  So it took a couple of days before I did anything but sleep and take antibiotics.  Yesterday was the first day without fever, but I still felt ridiculously weak.  

It's worse than ridiculous to haul your body hundreds of miles just so you can visit with family, and then do nothing but lay in bed the whole time you are there, but there it is.  Some of my cousins probably never even knew I was there!  On the bright side, though, if it is absolutely necessary to get sick as death, it is very good luck to do it when my out-of-state Mother is around, as she is the most nurturing soul alive.

So I ran a mile this morning at 10:10 on the treadmill.  I was surprised that I felt pretty good.  Good enough that I will probably do another one tonight.  I'm behind in my training and a little annoyed about it!  My next 5K is on July 4th and I absolutely have to take off at least a minute from my last one.  I don't know why, but I do!

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From Brent on Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 20:06:35

Lybi, good to hear you are back, I was a bit worried about no updates on your blog based on your arches and pains. Your comments are always great, if you hit the wall, its a hard way to get commando, points, at least 25. By the way, I have went off the treadmill 3 or 4 times when I was day dreaming, I have also ran right off the running trail. My wife justs laughs when I am not paying attention. Thanks for your comments.

From Mik'L on Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 21:14:40

wow- sounds pretty nasty! glad you are feeling better!

From James in Sunny AZ on Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 21:31:44

Yup, was quite a vacation. I think you just about covered everything. As far as the run tonight goes - if you are feeling up to it, just take it easy. I don't want you overdoing it after being sick. That is prime time for pushing your body too far without realizing it. Just remember the 8K I ran last January where I went into shock afterwards and they had to call the paramedics . . . "honey - remember how you asked me to take it easy? well, I overdid it, and they had to call the paramedics . . . can you come pick me up?" I seem to have a propensity for doing this. I remember another time when we were in Michigan where I got heat exhaustion and you had to come pick me up then, too. Geez, hope everyone else learns from my example of what NOT to do :)

From Christi on Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 21:41:49

Oh My Gosh! That strep infection sounds like it was horrible! Glad you are better now. Thanks for your perspective on having it all- but not right now, really helped me focus! So you're running a 5k next month? I want to do a July 4th run too, haven't picked one yet... it'll be a 5 or 10k... Keep Plugging Along...!

From sarah on Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 23:09:10

dear dear dear dear Lybi.....I missed your comments too but had no idea you were sick...I haven't even been checking the blog lately.....not to bring up any bad memories but too bad I wasn't there to make dinner and almost yell at everybody's kids....

Can't wait to see you guys in a couple of weeks...will you have time to come over...e-mail me or I'll call and we can talk about it.

From James in Sunny AZ on Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 00:44:12

Yup, was quite a vacation. I think you just about covered everything. As far as the run tonight goes - if you are feeling up to it, just take it easy. I don't want you overdoing it after being sick. That is prime time for pushing your body too far without realizing it. Just remember the 8K I ran last January where I went into shock afterwards and they had to call the paramedics . . . "honey - remember how you asked me to take it easy? well, I overdid it, and they had to call the paramedics . . . can you come pick me up?" I seem to have a propensity for doing this. I remember another time when we were in Michigan where I got heat exhaustion and you had to come pick me up then, too. Geez, hope everyone else learns from my example of what NOT to do :)

From Michelle on Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 13:06:49

Sounds like a memorable vacation... Hope you get feeling well soon. But you already sound like your doing pretty well, but you should take it easy, a 10:10 pace on the treadmill sounds really good coming off of that!

From Heber on Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 15:32:31

So sorry to hear you got sick at the reunion! Must have been nice to have Mom around.

I'm always surprised by two things when I'm sick. First it surprises me how much it sets me back in my running. The first run I can't go nearly as fast as usual. Even when we feel well we aren't totally well. Second I'm surprised how quickly it comes back. By a week afterward I'm back up to snuff.

Hope it works that way with you.

Love to you,

Your bro

From Maria on Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 19:26:18

Oh Lybi, what a nasty infection! I was worried what happened to you, seeing no updates on your blog. Good thing you're over that now. You'll pick up your training quickly, just don't force first few days while you're still weak. You're obviously hooked though, if you're talking about taking a minute off your 5K time!

From Lybi on Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 00:48:27

Thanks for the comments everyone--what a great network of supportive people!

From benjamin on Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 22:08:29

Looks like your mother wants to love you to death.

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I'm DOWN!  I think I broke my little toe yesterday.  I stubbed it just a little, but didn't even slow down bc I was in a hurry.  Later, I took the time to look at it bc it was bugging me and it looked just like a cherry tomato!  Round, red, swollen and shiny.  Since then it's become rather bothersome, throbbing and OOPS, I accidentally stubbed it again today.  Ug!  I have no patience for bones that crumble on the slightest contact with furniture!  I've never broken anything before ... Grumble grumble grumble.  Okay enough whining.  It doesn't hurt to walk on, but it does hurt a lot to have any kind of shoe on.  If the swelling is down tomorrow I'll try taping it and going for a run.  Or I could always try running on grass barefoot.  *Sigh*

I lost 1.2 lbs this last week.  So that's 6.4 lbs total in 5 weeks. 


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From Christi on Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 10:10:15

That stinks about the toe! When it rains it pours! You may be able to run barefoot on a track also. Good news on your weight loss though! I'm jealous! I've lost 1.2 lbs total in my first two weeks at WW. Its slow progress, but I can feel it is making a difference...

From Sasha Pachev on Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 11:53:40

Are you able to run barefoot? If yes, try it on grass or treadmill.

From Heber on Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 10:28:03

So sorry to hear about the toe. I broke a toe one time on the corner of my bed. It doesn't stop the running but it takes FOREVER to heal completely. What a pain.

From Lybi on Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 12:01:14

Hey Hebe! I may have lucked out on the toe issue. It feels so much better that I'm thinking it may not have been broken after all. Whatever it was, it cause a LOT of swelling, but it is almost all gone now.

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2 X 1 mile on treadmill at 10:00 pace.  Running without shoes on the first one made my heels hurt.  I felt a little more comfy after putting a pair of Dr. Scholls insert into my SOCKS!  Strange little runs.  Hopefully soon I will be able to get my running shoes over my swollen little toe!

Tomorrow we leave for a week to Utah.  If I don't blog, it doesn't mean I've given up.  I guarantee I will be running or swimming every possible day.  Maybe I'll even be able to meet some of you at the Provo River 10 Miler James is running.  Have a great week everyone!

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Travelling day.  14 hours in the car with 3 small children.  I ran barefoot at one of the rest stops along the way that had a large grassy area.  10 minutes for the mile, but it felt faster.  4,000 foot elevation difference, I guess.  Looking forward to a great week up in the mountains at Snowbird.

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This was an experiment.  I wasn't sure how I would handle running at 8,000 feet altitude.  I felt pretty good, although I went very slow.  13:20 pace for most of it.  Good news!  I was able to get my running shoes on today!  I think the toe will not be a factor in running anymore.  Yea!  So I really need to have some good mileage this week.  Last week I only had 4 miles because of being sick and breaking the stupid toe.  This week I want 18 at least.  20 would be a new record for me.  BTW we drove through St. George and I thought it was Beeeyooootiful.  All that red rock!  Amazing.

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From James the hubby on Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 13:22:21

You could always run the Provo River 10-miler with me . . . :)

Keep up the good work - your mileage will be back up in no time!

From Sasha Pachev on Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 13:28:54

I would not try to set any records this week, just be consistent, then if things go well, up it a bit next week.

From Mom on Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 16:11:07

Don't overdo it. You just got over being sick, you know. I agree with Sasha, no records this week. Love you doll. MOM

From Lybi on Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 16:23:44

Thanks Mom. Don't worry, I'm all well! Although I can fake a good fever if you will give me some more of that brownie stuff. : )

From Michael on Fri, Jun 15, 2007 at 17:19:09

Mill Creek is a nice run, me and my son ran it Sunday. Also Silver Lake at the end of Big Cottonwood is a nice high elevation flat run, its about a mile around the lake, much of it on boardwalk

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3 miles at mostly 10-11:00 pace at 8,000 ft. on a treadmill.  No incline, which I never do, but I was in a hurry!  I had to get done with my run quickly so DH could make his T time this morning.  It is soooo beautiful up here in the mountains.   Lots of little animals scurrying around on the ground, a rushing stream, and lots and lots of green everywhere.  Green is scarce in Mesa.  No joke, there are a couple of houses near where we live where the front yard is all little tiny rocks that have been spray painted green to look like a lawn.   (!?!)

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From Heber on Tue, Jun 12, 2007 at 17:03:13

Yeah! I'm the first to comment!

Hope you guys have a good time! I found that running at altitude really helped me. I ran at Camp Hinkley and when I came back I was noticably faster. Maybe the same will work for you.

Love you,


From Lybi on Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 18:18:46

May it be so! I hope I get the same effect even without running fast up here. I am shuffling rather slowly these days.

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Pain.  This morning I went up to run on the treadmill, took one look at the beautiful mountains, and went back down to run outside.  The temperature was glorious, the scenery was pristine, and the grade was evil.  The are only 2 ways to run up here--straight up and straight down.  So I basically ran up and down the closest hill several times.  I'm gonna be sore tomorrow.  I think I set a new lifetime record for breathing hard...if you don't count transition.

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From Brent on Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 23:36:31

It sounds like a great workout (10 commando points), good job with no upchucking. You missed out on some big extra commando points with the non-upchucking.

From sarah on Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 00:02:56

I'm not laughing at least not really...I am the wimpiest hill runner this side of the Mississippi...

One nice flat place to run in Utah is where we live...on the West side by the trail....I love it and still pant and puff on the tiny hills that somehow pop up now and then. You are doing guys can come by anytime on Friday...just give us a call....788-4608...should I expect you for dinner??

From James the hubby on Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 22:07:41

I guess I must be wimpier than you - the thought of running up and down the mountain roads entered my mind and went straiht back out again :) Kudos to you for being brave enough to do it.

From Sasha Pachev on Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 23:01:20

There is a nice flat parking lot over by the Peruvian Lodge in Alta. That is where I do my warm-up prior to the Alta Peruvian 8 K.

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I could bore you all with a detailed description of all the strange places I am sore today.  I think I'll skip the anatomy lesson, though, and just say that I was surprisingly not sore in my quads, but every other place never considerred is now complaining.  Are there muscles right below the ankle bone?  I think I am more sore from the downhill (down mountain, really) than the uphill.  Anyway, I ran on the good ol' treadmill at night.  5-5.5 mph most of the time.  I did a couple of fartleks, just because I was bored out of my mind.  1 min. at 7 mph, 30 sec. at 8 mph, and another min. at 7 mph.  Can't believe some of you run that fast for your recovery runs, you PSYCHOS (and I mean than in the kindest possible way).  Happy Friday, everyone. 

You should all check out Paul Potts from Britain's You've Got Talent.  He is an extremely funny looking, shy guy with the most amazing voice you've ever heard!  Made me cry.

Make sure you also view his semi-finalist performance of Time to Say Good-Bye!

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From Aaron on Fri, Jun 15, 2007 at 19:33:09

Inspiring perseverence!

Great artists are often funny looking. Janis Joplin supposedly said to Leonard Cohen in an intimate moment, "We're ugly but we have the music." (Can't think he was too pleased by that at the time, but he did put it in a song.)

From Brent on Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 11:28:04

Paul was great, Yea, I watch all that singing stuff. Love on stage performances and musicals. I never miss an episode of American Idol. Lybi, it seems you are pledging for the Psycho running club with repeats on hills, running when you are sore, you are on your way to life time addiction to running. Your blog comments always have flare and pazazz. I have a shirt the says fartlek on it, I get some funny comments.

From Heber on Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 13:39:03

You are probably having soreness in you peroneal tendons. The run the length of your lower leg and then turn under your ankle bone and attach to the foot in a few different places. I've had trouble with that myself. When running steeply uphill these tendons are stretched just at the time you are putting pressure on them. The result can be painful.

The key to avoiding this is to not let the shin and the toe get close to eachother while running. That sounds funny but when your toe is pointing up the peroneal tendons are stretched to their maximum. Long, driving steps do this. Shorten up your stride when going uphill by keeping your stride rate the same as when you are on the flat. Your body will travel slowed than on the flat but your feet will hit just as often, but they will hit closer to eachother. I think that will help.

From sarah on Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 22:17:54

Thanks for staying with was short and sweet...sorry couldnt stay longer but I think you guys will be happy to be home on Sunday....catch ya later

From Maria on Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 17:47:23

Lybi, you'd be happy to know that Paul Potts just won the competition and is on his way to sing for the Queen and more importantly, to the recording studio. I just watched the results show live on ITV1, he is amazing. His final performance is on youtube already, look it up (he sang Nessun Dorma again). Isn't it strange how people with such great talents still struggle with self confidence? I hope he starts believing in himself more after this success.

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Left Snowbird today and stayed with Sasha and Sarah Pachev.  I almost didn't run, but of course, just being within 100 yds. of the Pachevs makes you want to be more dedicated.  SO I took a nice little 3 mi. jog at night.  I did a pretty good job of getting lost.  Thank goodness for the grid system in Provo!  There are a surprising number of people outside their houses in Provo at 10:30 PM--some of them rather alarming to see.  Wildlife report: teenagers making out, strange teenagers dressed as goblins who popped out and tried to scare the livin' daylights out of me, hairy man watering lawn, guy working on truck.

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I was able to go see the Provo Riverwoods 10 miler.  It was so cool!  Sasha came in way before everyone else.  I was surprised by his incredibly long stride.  I was super proud of my DH James in Sunny AZ for coming in 1st in his age division (not counting Russian Red-heads who are overall winners).   James has a very relaxed/springy gait and didn't even seem to be uncomfortable when he came in. I was also very impressed/inspired to see Sarah come in well under her goal for the race.  That woman's got MOXY!

I stood at the finish line and clapped and hollered for just about every single soul who finished.  It was great.

.1 Little races at a rest stop with my boys.

I was absolutely committed to running as soon as we got home so I could have a new record in weekly mileage, but we got home later than expected--11:20 or so, and I was ambushed by my bed and sucked in as soon as I walked into my room.  So I got 15 miles and change for this week.  Next week I will absolutely get 20!

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From Christi on Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 19:48:25

Hey You! I was looking over your week, great consistency! (I'm still working on that, logging too many "goose eggs" as Sasha would say) Isn't the Provo 10 miler great?! I was thinking of it Sat. because I was back in SG, but wishing I was running it. I actually haven't done the 10 miler, but I have done the 10k- they used to do that on the same day as the 10 miler, but I don't think they do anymore. ANYWAY! Make it a great week!

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Good start to the week.  5 miles outside.  I haven't attempted 5 for several weeks.  It felt . . . (groan) pretty good.  I'm a little tired.  We'll have to see if I fizzle out before the day is over.  Not like brushing my teeth yet, but not as hard as running 1 mile was in the beginning.

I saw that Great Blue Heron again.  He let me get so close to him!  10 feet max.  Very cool.   He is so huge!

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From Wildbull on Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 11:05:58


Your getting better all the time. I am impressed with your commitment. From my observation and looking at your progress. You’re going to be reaching your goals very soon.

From James the hubby on Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 12:24:53

Way to go honey! 5 miles is definitely a good start to the week. Wish I could run today, but I am sidelined with the strep throat. I agree, you are absolutely on track to reach your goals. Love ya!

From Aaron on Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 12:47:50

Good for you. What'd you use for music?

Wanted to recommend a book: The Runners' Repair Manual by Murray Weisenfeld. Author's quite expert and engaging, and it's really helpful for figuring out the exact body parts causing various aches and pains (and whether you need to do anything about them or just mope).

You usually find a Wolof sorcerer in Senegal, but I met mine in Cambridge, Massachusetts, where she was in graduate school. Mangos, incidentally, are great post-running food.

From Maria on Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 18:18:26

Lybi, you're charging ahead full steam! 5 miles in a single run is very good. If you keep it up, you'll have to pick new goals pretty soon! Just be careful and don't increase mileage too quickly. Oh, and stay away from James with his strep throat (hope you feel better soon, James!).

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3 Really easy on treadmill.  5-6 mph.  I'm saving up energy for my tempo run tomorrow.  This is what I'm planning:  Wake up at  3 AM, go to a nice, well-lit straightaway that lasts forever.  Run 1 mile slow, 1 mile at 8-8:30 pace, 1 more slow.  8 minute mile is blazing fast to my body at this point, so feel free to feel very fast by comparison.  : )  Anything I can do to lift your morale . . . .  Anyway, come home and go back to bed for 2 1/2 more hours. 

3 AM may seem a little extreme, maybe I'll make it 4 AM.  To me there is no difference between 5 am and 3 am--it's just stinkin' early.   MUST AVOID HEAT.  Plus James usually runs from 5-6 and then leaves for work, so 3-4 or 4-5 are good time slots for me.  I like the idea of getting another full sleep cycle in, too.


I have somewhat to say concerning my eldest brother.  The rest of you may tune out. 

Heber, I had no idea you were so fast!  You have to remember that James' course was downhill!  You would've been right there with him, or very close.  Sounds like you are the superhero of our family right now.   It makes me proud that someone from our family of  *ahem* diminuative stature could keep up with Sir Galloping Blondeness (on a good day, anyway : )).  At any rate, if your intention is to run for years to come, and to continue in trying to be as fast as you can be, and you desire to be helpful to and be helped by other runners, what have you against joining this blog? 

Not writing interesting stuff it not a good reason to not blog.  Tons of people on this blog just write the distance and the time and how they felt.  Sometimes I write more, but it is absolutely not required!  No pressure.   Ha ha ha.

BTW thanks for all the biomechanical stuff you write about, I always try to implement it in my running. 

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From Sasha Pachev on Tue, Jun 19, 2007 at 17:48:39

At this point I would just work on getting comfortable with running 3 miles a day at an easy pace, and once you are used to that, go to 4 miles a day. No need for tempo runs as of yet. You should get as much growth as possible out of easy running in larger and larger volume before you start pushing the pace, and you normally do not max it out until you run 8-10 miles a day.

From Wildbull on Tue, Jun 19, 2007 at 17:49:04

WOW!! 3 A.M. I would step into a pot hole and fall a sleep after I crashed onto the cold hard asphalt! I need to have my beauty sleep! Otherwise The ugly in me tends to over come me for the rest of the day! Mr. Grinch! Be careful. Even in a well lit area, that early in the morning not many people are out and about. Many female runners carry pepper spray. And cell phone. Do you have a dog?

From Lybi on Tue, Jun 19, 2007 at 20:31:01

Sasha, I feel like I need to figure out what my goal pace feels like so I don't do the same thing I did last time in the race. Just 2 tempo runs--1 a week then my race on July 4th. Approve? Is the concern that I will get injured, or just that I might not optimize my training for 1 day?

Bull, thanks for the concern. Very protective. I promise I will pick up some pepper spray tonight. No dog, unfortunately.

From Sasha Pachev on Tue, Jun 19, 2007 at 21:24:35

I think you'll get more out of your training by patiently jogging and using the race to find out your fitness. Also, running at 3 AM will not give you a good indicator of your fitness. One time I happened to be awake at 4:00 AM and decided to do a run. In the middle of it I decided to do a couple of quarters at what felt like an aggressive 5 K pace. I was certain I was hitting at least 1:15 - it was 1:19, and it felt hard.

When racing, at this point I would recommend forgetting your splits and running by feel. I think in the last race you would have run about 40 seconds faster had you not seen the 8:00 mile split in the first mile, or had you not allowed it to make you think you were going out too fast.

From Brent on Tue, Jun 19, 2007 at 22:56:42

Lybi, I didn't know you and James would be at the Provo ten miler. I would have talked my wife into going. Hum, I remember, sleep is my friend, good luck with 3 a.m. I know what you mean, I was in Phoneix for two weeks during the summer and had to run at 1 a.m. and it was still 95 degrees. Good luck. take something with you to drink. I have talked to Sasha at several races and met Army runner at a 1/2 marathon.

B of BS Rools out

From James the hubby on Tue, Jun 19, 2007 at 23:44:45

OK, got the pepper spray - why don't you go ahead and run at 5 am, and I will run in the evening tomorrow? I think the 5 am time will probably be closer to the time when you need your body to be awake for the upcoming 5K anyways. Maybe what you should shoot for is a 2 mile tempo at 5k pace next week, after a good 20-mile week this week, just to give you an indicator of what you feel like you can do in the actual 5K - maybe around 8:30/mile or so, which would put you on track for a 26:20 5K. I understand the desire to test your fitness and be prepared, but I don't think you have to worry about lowering your time - the lower temperatures will help with that, plus the added fitness you have gained through consistent training. Love ya! PS, I will probably be cheering you on in the July 4 5K, although I might run it as well - we will have to see.

From Heber on Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 13:08:48

Sorry I don't blog here Lybi. I put my milage and stuff on and it has some pretty cool features (graphs, shoe tracker, list of routes) which I like. This is a better place for a literary person like you though. Your blogs are so fun to read.

Thanks for the complements about my speed.

I'm going to disagree with Sasha's comments about pace. He and I have different training philosophies. He's a high mileage guy and I'm a high intensity guy. My experience suggests that high intensity is more important. When I trained for the marathon I did was many training plans called for: I ran slow on long runs. These plans claim you can go faster in the actual race. I did the recommended training paces for my goal pace and I certainly did enough distance but I found I couldn't keep up the goal pace. In fact I tried a goal pace run before the marathon and couldn't even keep up the goal pace for 17 miles. I was used to running 18 to 20 every Saturday but that goal pace workout caused really bad pain in my legs that lasted for days. It wasn't any lack of mileage. It was a lack of training at my goal pace.

You can see why this makes sense. Your body responds to the stimulus you give it. Your body's sytems operate differently at different speeds. So if you want to race a x min/mile you must train at x min/mile. In fact my overall marathon pace ended up about the same pace as my 22 mile run a few weeks earlier, despite trying really hard to do better. My legs just weren't up to it.

A friend of mine did all his training for his second marathon at goal pace and just made his long run longer and longer until he was up to 22 miles at goal pace. He had no trouble achieving his goal and he said the race was so much more enjoyable than his first marathon where he trained slow.

Now I do all intervals all the time. Long runs are just 3 very long intervals at marathon goal pace with 3 or 4 minute breaks in between. My tempo runs are 3x2mile repeats at 10k goal pace with 3 minute breaks, etc. I never run slow except to warm up.


From Sasha Pachev on Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 15:49:57


It is very possible that your goal pace was too fast for your level of fitness, while your friend's goal pace was too slow. Training properly does not mean you will reach your goal - it only means you will maximize your potential within your current constraints - natural talent, time to train, time to rest, availability of nutrition, etc. Failure to reach a particular goal, as well as success in reaching a particular goal do not say much without knowing what the goal was, as well as some other important parameters.

A common mistake of a marathoner is to overestimate his goal pace. This frequently leads to a very unpleasant experience. Marathons tend to be overzealous cops, they will give you a $200 speeding ticket for being 10 seconds per mile over the limit in the first half, while the same mistake in a 5 K does not even get you pulled over. On the other hand, somebody underestimating his goal and starting out a lot slower may not even hit the wall. E.g. my most pleasant marathon last year was Moab. It was also my slowest. I was running it as a training run. I believe I was no more than 5 minutes slower that what I could have done on that course going all out, but that made a whole lot of difference in the experience.

Running long and slow done to an extreme can be detrimental, and where it hurts the most is in the overextending the length of the long run for your level of fitness. E.g somebody who runs no more than 6 miles a day should not be doing 20 mile long runs at any pace.

High intensity is a very important aspect of training, but it is safe to do, and most productive when you are fit for it. You get fit for it by building a base. In my experience, the base has to be at least 40 miles a week before high intensity becomes meaningful. A fast and shorter long run is indeed more productive for building marathon endurance, though, than long slow run. But you have to be fit to do it!

From Lybi on Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 17:46:46

You guys are both so awesome! Thanks for the concern with my training. I'm sure you are both on the same page when you get right down to it. Too bad we can't get you guys together to settle this over a friendly arm wrestle, though! Joke joke. I am always very happy to see comments from either of you two on my blog.

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3 miles at 3 am.  Temp was nice!  I really liked not having a lot of cars zooming by.  Saw 2 cars the whole run.  I didn't do the tempo at Sasha's request.  Plus I was reading a book about running injuries last night and it said not to try to increase weekly distance on the same week that you add speed workouts.  Anyway, I liked running way early (other than the 1st 5 minutes). The only problem was that I kept waking up all night long.  Is it time to run!?  Is it time to run!?  Plus my children woke me up a couple of times, so I'm a little tired--even though I went back to bed after my run.  I'll have to give it another try to see if it is going to work for me.   ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz.

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From wildbull on Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 10:37:43

sleep well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

From Lybi on Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 17:34:53

Wow, 16 exclamation points. That sounds serious. Tell you what, I'll go to bed an hour earlier. OK?

From Sasha Pachev on Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 17:56:20

You need to get at least 6 hours of continuous sleep, ideally 7-8. So 3 AM would be OK if you could consistently go to bed at 8 PM, 9 PM at the latest, and fall asleep immediately.

From Lybi on Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 17:59:26

OK. I'll try 9:30 pm to 4:00 am (very close!) then 5-7 pm. Plus a 20 min. nap at 1:00 pm. Good?

From Christi on Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 19:04:51

Hello Lybi! Thanks for your uplifting comments. 3am! Wow- you are dedicated. I can only get up at 6am with a partner! In St. George I can still stand to run at 6am, any later is too hot. But you do have to do whatever it takes to avoid heat- I hear you sister! Are you training for a particular race right now?

From michelle on Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 22:47:08

I can't believe that you got up at 3:00 A.M. to run what dedication! (Maybe borderline ..... yes very dedicated!) I bet you sleep better tonight! good luck with the run tonight/tomorrow whenever it is at that time of day! If I work a night shift I don't consider it the next day untill I go to bed around 7:00 the next morning but if you get up in the night and then go back to bed.... there should be a time to describe that like, I don't know, I'll have to think on that one! By the way did you go back to sleep easily or did it take a while?

From Lybi on Wed, Jun 20, 2007 at 23:25:38

Within 15 min. I was in snoozeland. I'm not nutzo! Lots of people out here run in the night. Well, at least my one marathon running mommy friend does. Hmmm.

Well, this is just an experiment. I probably would've never tried it if I hadn't said I would on this blog!

From sarah on Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 12:24:08

not running related question....I'm thinking of finding a new piano teacher for my kids...or maybe just teaching them myself since...I can play....any suggestions? What book brand do you use...we have Bastien I think...I grew up with the Pace method.

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Slept in today.  Ahhhhhhh.  All I can say is that I love my pillowtop!  3 miles on the treadmill, nice and easy.  1 mile at 5 mph, 1 at 5.3 and one mostly at 5.5.  Feel great now. 

I wonder if I'm going to show any improvement in my next race (5K on July 4th).  I don't feel like I am pushing myself.  Well, I am trying to build up a base and avoid injury.  *Sigh*

I had so much fun this morning swimming laps (in a play pool) with my kids.  They took turns riding on my back (I was doing breast-stroke) like I was a sea monster.  Good times.  I feel like I have a lot more energy in general since I started running.

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From brent on Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 23:04:40

I agree, be careful of injuries, build up slow. Just a couple of weeks ago I asked a guy if he was Tony Stewart, race car driver, it is embarassing. My advice on the 4th of July 5k, do the same as your last race, effort is what counts. Never punish yourself for time, only lack of effort. My race saturday comes with a ticket to the utah arts festival. Interesting people watching. by the way, I noticed that your goal is 25 miles a week by the end of summer. Maybe you should consider a longer run every other week to build up your base. B of BS Rools out

From Christi on Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 09:53:08

I got up at 4am this morning to run 10.4 and thought of you & your early morning(s). It really wasn't bad, felt the same as 5am. I'm sure I'll crash hard later today though! So I see you're training for a July 4th 5k, Fun! I'm thinking about doing one too, but can't get anyone to do it with me. Whaaah...

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3 miles outside tonight in 27:00 (with breaks in between).   Warm up mile (continuous) in about 10:45, strrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreettttch; then 1 mile of fartleks in 6:45 (if you only count the fartleks--there was some walking in there as well) more stretching, cool down mile (continuous) in 9:30.  I was completely surprised that my last mile was faster than my first, because my legs were totally dead.  Like trying to run on ham shanks. . . or maybe with an entire pig strapped to my back.  I guess what they say about running farleks is true--they improve your form, and help your overall running.  I'm a-gonna be sore tomorrow.  Can't wait. 

I was really grouchy going into this run, so I think I just wanted to do something a little different.  I either needed a good hard run, or a humongous brownie.  Why I chose running beats the dickens out of me. 

Tomorrow I will reach my 20 mile a week goal, so even though I'm sure I'll be sore, I've gotta get out and do 3 easy miles.  Whew!  Now since I wrote it down I know I'll do it. 

Good luck everyone who is running the Wasatch Back and other races on Saturday!!! 

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From Wildbull on Sat, Jun 23, 2007 at 14:22:51

20 miles is awesome! Super job! you should reward yourself with something that makes you smile. Like you I am going to be sore tomorrow, and I will hobble when I walk. But man can we run!

From Michelle on Sat, Jun 23, 2007 at 21:29:31

Sounds like a good run! Way to go after that goal! As for the farleks? I need a good defintion of what that is and maybe I could give it a try, for sure I could use some improvement of form and other things. I hear you all bat that word around a bit but I am a little slow on the jargon since I have no running experience or background. But definately an interesting word. Now as for definitions, humongous brownie I know the defintion of that! What were you thinking!!!???

From brent on Sat, Jun 23, 2007 at 23:44:03

Lybi, great workout, it helps to take breaks when you are moving to harder workouts. Great job. A 6:30 pace in fartleks is great. By the way, I often run better when grumppy about something.

From Christi on Sun, Jun 24, 2007 at 00:19:44

Great job! If you ran 3 miles in 27 min. with breaks- you are going to have an awesome 5k on the 4th! I'm excited for you. To answer your question about having a buddy at races- I have one partner I run with 2-3x a week. Other than that just a few people that I see around at races, etc. I should probably join the local running club, but they meet on the other side of town and I'm too lazy to drive over, when I can just leave my front door & run!

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There you have it...a new weekly mileage record.  3 on the treadmill as easy as I could make it and still (technically) be running.  Never opened my mouth to breathe the whole run, so that's gotta be easy. 

I am a little bit worried about a little bit of a sore throat that I've got.  Please not strep again!  It's probably nothing, but I know that James has exposed me again.  I've been gargling that super nasty mouthwash all evening.  Please please please . . .

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From Michelle on Sun, Jun 24, 2007 at 23:53:23

Awesome on the new weekly record!! Hopefully that sore throat goes away without any problems! Maybe with a break for sunday will allow you to rest and recooperate!

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Day off.  I'm sick again: just a really sore throat, but I really want to avoid the whole major fever, delirious part.  I've gotta be patient.  I have the whole rest of my life to run, and if there is not amazing improvement in my next 5K, I will just have to run a couple more before I reach my goal--which is arbitrary anyway!  So really there is no reason to feel bad...

I feel bad.

The good news is that I've really enjoyed reading all these awesome race reports about the Wasatch Back.  I think the people on this blog are exceptional people, in addition to being exceptional runners.  There are many examples of strong character and ATTITUDE!   Good stuff.

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From Maria on Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 17:06:47

Oh, not again, Lybi! Good call on sitting it out until you feel better. You know, sometimes, when you start training at a higher level (more mileage, more intensity or both) and start getting into better shape, your immune system gives in, and you start picking up every little bug around. So, be patient, don't go on 10 mile runs yet, and hopefully these things won't bother you too much. Don't feel bad - you'll be good as new in no time :).

From Christi on Wed, Jun 27, 2007 at 10:02:47

My advice is SLEEP! When I don't get enough sleep I start getting colds. In fact I feel one coming on! Good luck, hope you kick it fast! A few days off won't hurt your running condition...

From Michelle on Wed, Jun 27, 2007 at 19:30:21

I second the sleep advice!!! Never underestimate the power of sleep....unless it's positive strep, then sleep,antibiotics,more sleep! oh, and stay hydrated! Hope you get better quick, but don't rush it!

From Wildbull on Thu, Jun 28, 2007 at 12:05:04

I take 1000 mg of vitamin C (Emergen-C) packets. Seems to help me. Get well.

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Today was the first day my throat feels (mostly) better.   I'm glad I took some time off, but it felt really good to run again.   2 Miles on the treadmill at 5.5 for most of it.  

I had to change my running goals.  I get sick every time I push myself at all, so I'm just going to relax and jog some everyday.  Then build up so gradually that it will look like I'm not building up.  Probably won't race for . . . I dunno--long time.  It's still really good to run, even if racing is not involved.  Health, happiness--all that good stuff.

Today is our 10th wedding anniversary!  Starting to sound impressive!   James is the sweetest guy! 

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From Mik'L on Thu, Jun 28, 2007 at 19:12:11

Happy Anniversary! 10 years is impressive! I can totally understand the goals you have and there's nothing wrong with them-some of us run to stay in shape and be healthier. I figure if we start now, we should still be able to run later in life rather than trying to start later when it sounds a lot harder to get in to.

From Curtis on Thu, Jun 28, 2007 at 20:35:25

Happy aniversary, congrats on 10 yrs. My wife an I will be celebrating our 28th in a few weeks. Keep going on the running, just take little baby steps and before you know it you will be right were you want to be.

From Brent on Thu, Jun 28, 2007 at 21:26:19

Happy Anniversary, you are right on with running for enjoyment. Good to see you feel better. Enjoy the run along life and enjoy each running experience. Your right, my wife is tough, sensitive, smart, and all that stuff.

From James the hubby on Thu, Jun 28, 2007 at 22:29:25

Happy Anniversary, sweetheart! I am glad you are finally feeling better, and agree with you taking it easy for a while. Love you!

From Christi on Thu, Jun 28, 2007 at 22:48:25

Happy Ann! 10 is a biggie. Nice pic of the temple on your page (is that the AZ one?)

From Clay on Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 10:26:54

Congrats on the Anniversary, you guys are the greatest. My throat is coming around too... Keep up the good work!!

From Christi on Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 12:20:30

To answer your question about what we do for water on the run- I go out the evening before and stash drinks! I had water at about 3 miles and gatorade at about 5. Then we can use the same drinks out & back. Usually hide them in a bush or something. Crazy huh?

From Sasha Pachev on Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 21:18:02

Happy anniversary, and welcome the 10+ year club!

The first year of running you can improve very well, in fact better, without pushing yourself very much. The pushing must happen in the area of getting out and getting through the distance, not in how fast you run the distance. Also, one rule about pushing is that if you push beyond your ability to recover you break down. One way to avoid overtraining is to cut down the training. That in some cases is a necessary evil. However, before you do that you should always go through your recovery procedures and make sure they are optimal for your circumstances. Diet could very easily tip the balance between growing and crashing with the exact same training/sleep/non-running activities routine. There is a reason I will not touch certain foods. There is also a reason I will not run my regular mileage and intensity if certain foods are not available, or if I am forced to eat lesser quality foods, or if I cannot get the right amount of sleep, or if the work/non-running life stress increases to a certain critical point.

From Michael on Mon, Jul 02, 2007 at 16:33:04

Hope youre feeling better

When I lived in Arizona (and true in Utah too), the dry air got to my throat alot - it would ge dry and then often sore, best way to avoid seemed to be getting enough fluids with the dry air and heat there so I forced myself to drink more frequently

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2 miles on treadmill at 5 mph.  Felt really easy.

My friend came over with her 5 kids today.  I made crepes for everybody!  So that's 8 kids and 2 adults.   It ended up being approximately a million crepes.  I decided to try to pan flip them for old time's sake (throw them in the air without a spatula to turn them).  Well, I don't know my own massive strength, and I'm not exactly used to my new pan... and that super-heated crepe ended up flying right at my face!  I had to resort to martial arts to defend myself.  All in front of a bunch of kids, too! This is why James does most of the cooking.  His martial arts skills are superior to my own.  Plus, he seems to handle it better whenever things spontaneously burst into flames.  

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From James the hubby on Sat, Jun 30, 2007 at 16:44:27

Hee-yah! Take that, you dastardly crepe! I love reading your blog - you are so cute and expressive. You make my blogs sound like an obituary or something.

From Michelle on Sat, Jun 30, 2007 at 20:09:53

Glad to hear that your back up and running, must be feeling better if your doing martial arts in addition to running! I have to agree with your husband, you are good for a laugh! (Laughing with you, not at you!) You should write your own sitcom or something, you would be great at it!

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2.25 on the treadmill. 

1 mile at 5-5.5 mph

1 mile at 6 mph

.25 at 7 mph

I was happy to see that I could still run at 6 mph with my mouth closed.  It feels about the same as 5.3 used to feel.  And REALLy interesting to me was that 7mph (about 8:30 pace) feels as 6 mph felt 2 months ago.  So there must be progress going on here. Yea!

I must confess that I was up really late last night.  I read a rather spooky book about Vampires and I think it kept me up.  "Twilight."  Very engrossing, but extremely mushy.  Anyone here read it?  I'm still trying to decide if I would recommend it.  Delicious reading, but made me blush for fully a third of the time I was reading it.    Much like a twinky kind of a read.  May taste good when you're reading it, but probably not good to consume too much!  I'm a little bit of a book snob.  My favorite books are ones that are meaningful, like "The Hiding Place"  or "To Kill a Mockingbird."  Favorite recent book is "The Secret Life of Bees".  Ooooh  I really like books that illuminate a foreign culture, too.  "Wild Swans" is probably my favorite in this genre.  Anyway, Happy Monday.

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From Heber on Mon, Jul 02, 2007 at 18:09:20

Glad to hear you are getting faster. That's very gratifying isn't it?

Debbie loves "Wild Swans" also. If you like foreign stuff you might like "A woman of Egypt" which Debbie read a while back. More recently she read "Interpreter of Maladies" by Jhumpa Lahiri (the one who wrote "the Namesake"). It's a collection of short stories. They are mostly sad but pretty good Debbie says.

From Sasha Pachev on Mon, Jul 02, 2007 at 18:23:43

Aerobic fitness improves with consistent training. You should see huge improvements in the next 6 months. How did you enjoy the smell of James' socks?

From Lybi on Mon, Jul 02, 2007 at 21:03:02

How cool! I am just starting to read "The Namesake."

Sasha, I'm glad you reminded me. Only because of you, I will actually do it. (Athough any woman married to a runner knows the socks are not really a deterent. It's the shorts.) Lets just admit it. Man-sweat could concievably be refined into a chemical weapon. Ewww! We give up! We give up!

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Happy Independence Day! 2 miles on the treadmill in the morning. 2 quarters at 5 mph, 5 quarters at 6 mph, 1quarter at 7 mph.

Very shortly after running I was on my way to New Mexico to hang out with my family! 7 Hour drive. So glad got my run in 1st thing! I missed yesterday's run because I kept putting it off until later--then soon it was too late. I'm looking forward to running in the cooler temps here (60s in the morning--Sweet!)

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From Brent on Thu, Jul 05, 2007 at 13:34:28

Lybi,James, thanks for your comments on the race. My daughter reads a book every week, I don't get it, about fantasy type books (Mercedes Lackey). 7 hours on the road with kids, there will be story to tell about the road trip. On your treadmill run, good to pick up the pace at the end, good practice. Since you missed you 5k, what is your next race?

B of BS Rools out

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Nice little run outside this evening.  My brother-in-law and nephew accompanied me so that I wouldn't get attacked by a dog or anything.  That was nice.  I think I've discovered that I can go significantly faster for a lot longer if I increase my turn-over than if I increase my stride length.  Illuminating.

I'm struggling just a little with enthusiasm for running because I decided to stop racing for a while and be more gradual.  We'll have to see how that goes.  Maybe I can go with James to a 5K and do the 1 mile fun run or something next time.  From my one 5K so far, I think racing is really not fun at all.  HOWEVER, it is really to cool/fun to be training for something

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From James the hubby on Thu, Jul 05, 2007 at 23:59:22

Good job getting out and running. I can understand the enthusiasm bit - I struggled with the same feelings when I kept getting injured. Having to pull out of St. George two years in a row was extremely discouraging to me. I don't think, however, that your first experience with a race after starting up running again is any indication of what other races will be like. Remember how you felt when you did Pat's Run with Shae? That is probably a good goal for you right now - if you sign up for a race, don't go in with the expectation of setting a PR, just go in hoping to have fun and enjoy the race. And believe me, it is more enjoyable when the temperature is not 95 degrees! I love you tons, glad you ran with family (Mike and Allen, Kriston and Allen?)

From sarah on Fri, Jul 06, 2007 at 00:00:55

First of all THANK YOU for the sweet package we got in the mail the other day from you. I've been practicing my new prelude book which is great because it's pretty much easy enough to sightread(I'm still not super good at sightreading the pedals when I'm nervous and in front of a large group of people sitting and quietly listening to the music I happen to be playing.....)

Secondly, I am so sorry and truly sympathetic

about your lack of enthusiasm for running right now...It will come back. I think what keeps me going...besides having Sasha in house pretty much making me what you mentioned in your short term running goal...and that is my next pregnancy or just the future. I really believe that continuing to run every day (almost) is just a good game are probably just worn out from something so take it easy on yourself. I think you are so awesome.....

From Heber on Fri, Jul 06, 2007 at 12:15:48

I think I'm the same way about running. I don't like racing per se but but the prospect of doing well in an upcoming race keeps me motivated. I can't run "for my health". It's got to be competitive.

I find it helpful to choose a race fairly far in the future to train for. I wouldn't race in the summer in AZ for anything. But in the fall there will be lots of races. Pick a 5k or 10k in September or October and set your sights on it.

From Sasha Pachev on Fri, Jul 06, 2007 at 13:09:02

Lybi - I think you should continue to race. There is something about racing that I cannot explain very well, but based from what I've seen so far with myself and others, a runner that does not race does not have as fulfilling of an experience as the one that does. Fitness level or finishing time or position do not make a difference in this, it applies to everybody from the guys that lead the field to the ones who trail it.

Races have a tendency to be painful. You want to do your best, and a true best is not possible without hitting a limit of some kind, which hurts. For me lately the pain has been of a different nature - watching the competition pull away and not being able to go faster while not feeling particularly bad during or after the race. For most runners, it is a regular pain of led in your legs, feeling like throwing up, etc. But regardless, we cannot succeed if we are afraid of pain. An experienced runner likes the right kind of pain because it smells like success to him.

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Lovely little run outside in the morning with Kristina and Mr. TRYinginCO.  So nice!  Beautiful weather out here.  Plus we are out in the country, so we are running on trails shaded by trees instead of sidewalks...aaaaaaahhh.  So nice.  I want to move here!

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From Kristina on Sat, Jul 07, 2007 at 17:46:01

yea Lybi! We ran together! I'm so excited to blog now too! I had tons of fun running with you. If we could be running pals it would be so awesome. But we'll just have to be blog pals which will be fun too.

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James and I had a wonderful time running together (without 3 kids) for the first time in . . .geez, I couldn't say. I know I ran with him exactly once when we first got married, but he was really frustrated with running at a speed which I could survive (which injured my delicate running pride!) This second attempt 10 years later was much more enjoyable. I thank Sasha for teaching him the value of running slowly to avoid injury. He was bouncing at least twice as high as I was for the whole run, though, and stepping half as frequently. It was nice to talk to him. He had just finished 8 miles on his own, then we did 3 together.

I want to move here! The weather at 7:15 was PERFECT!--cool, slight breeze, neutral humidity, and scenic mountains close by.

You know what else?  I really liked the advice about continuing to race, but not that often.  I really think having a race to train for is such a great motivational tool.  I think I'll look for a nice scenic 5K in the fall, after it's cooled down a little more--like October or something.  HEY!  maybe I could run something in St. George.  We'll be there for James' marathon, maybe there is a 10K or 5Kalso?  Some marathons do have shorter races the same day, I think.  I'll have to check it out.

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From brent on Sat, Jul 07, 2007 at 18:27:46

Lybi, James, some older wisdom on spouses running together. Me and Sylvia run together once per week. My avg. pace is about 1 minute a mile faster than hers. I have made a rule, this pertains to running friends also. If you agree to run with your spouse or friends, you always run together, the pace of the slowest runner so they have a good time on the run also. Also, when running with spouses, it is important to take a few breaks during the run and enjoy the special time together running. Choose a route with good stopping places for water, shade, enjoying a view of the scenery, etc. Lybi, glad to see you are taking Sasha's advice, run a few races, it is not important to win or lose, enjoy the experience.

B of BS Rools out.

P.S. All the bloggers would miss your comments on the pursue of physical and mental improvement. There is not one runner who has not had passing thoughts of giving up running or racing in favor of ice cream or other sweet treats.

From Christi on Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 00:50:26

Hey You, how's it going? I see you have some in-laws that have joined the blog. How fun! Are you struggling with running in the heat like I am? I hate treadmill running. I'm just going to keep running at 6am I guess...

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Today I drove home from New Mexico with the kids.  I was planning an evening run on the treadmill, but it had a major issue which made it impossible.  The treadmill seemed to be skipping--the belt would slip and catch and slip and catch.  (Either that or it was trying to buck me off!)  It was good for a laugh, anyway.  I almost fell off the darn thing even at walking speed.   I hope we can get it fixed!  Anyone else's treadmill ever done this?

Anyway, I ended up outside in the heat for 3 miles.  I enjoyed this run.  I tried to focus on keeping my turnover faster than usual, and I have to say, it really is easier for me to go faster this way, rather than just pushing off the ground harder with each stride. 

My splits were:  10:05, 9:39, 9:40 for a total time of 29:25.  My average pace was 9:48.  For those of you who are not familiar with my training, let me just say that this is much faster than I usually run.  A more common pace for a 3 miler for me would be 11:10 or so.  For not much more effort!  I am really excited about this. 

OK geeks:  I've got a challenge for you.  There must be a mathematical way to find the optimal mix of stride length (x) in feet and turnover (y) in bpm.   I think the best way to look at it is to find the way to expend the least ATP (energy).  OK, so let's say that stride length varies between 2 ft and 6 ft.  Let's say that at 2 ft per stroke you expend z ATP per....oh forget it!  I can't even figure out how to get started on making this into a math problem.   But I bet somebody on this blog can. I know we are trying to optimize speed and conserve ATP.  10 points to anyone who can figure out how to make even an extremely rudimentary mathmatical equation out of this problem.  Nevermind realistic data.  20 points to whoever comes up with the best equation possible.  30 points can be redeemed for ... a snow cone?  How about status as top nerd of the blog?

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From Heber on Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 12:23:22

I'm not going to try the math but here is what I have heard. Most elite runners run with a faster turnover than less well trained runners. The good runners run at 90 steps per minute (or 180 depending on if you count each footfall or just your left). To count it out imagine hearing a waltz in your head (one-two-three one-two-three). Of course that only works if you don't pick a very slow waltz.

You are right about the turnover vs pushoff thing. Pushing off shouldn't be the feeling you feel when you run (unless you are sprinting or doing hills). Your foot should hit almost directly under you and then you should bring your heels up behind you. Don't keep your foot on the ground a long time. Watch your little boys run and run like them. Kids naturally have good form. Look at how high their heels kick up behind them when they run and how their feet hit under them rather than in front.

From Sasha Pachev on Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 14:00:11

I would not worry too much about the math so much as the feel. Your stride should feel as light as possible, and do what it takes to make it happen. Overtime as you put in the miles your body will learn the best turnover for the way it is. I think it is a mistake to aim for a certain stride length or turnover. However, for most runners the feet naturally linger on the ground, and visualizing that the ground is hot and you do not want to stay on it for too long usually helps.

From Kristina on Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 15:37:32

Wow Lybi! I can't believe you still had enough energy to go running after driving your kids home yesterday! I'm way impressed. Good job!

From Brent on Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 21:22:39

Math is too tough a way to earn commando points. Welcome back. Sasha is always right, light on your feet whatever the pace is the goal. Lumbering with a heavy footstrike is not the way, hard on the road. A few of my running buddies, we listen for silent feet. It also means less chance of injury and more longevity in running. By the way, being light on your feet is easier said than done, it often takes months or years to perfect.

Funny night at dinner. I took my two daughters to dinner. They were both showing off the "guns" bi and tricepts from working out. I had to show mine from working out the last two months. They are great girls. My oldest is an RN and the youngest is a radiation therapist.

From Lybi on Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 00:41:58

What? Am I the only one who thinks about math during my runs? Fractions if I'm on the track, calculus if I'm on the road. Yuck, you guys are right, I need to start running with my music.

From Jon on Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 00:56:04

Don't worry, I crunch numbers all the time on my runs, though usually calculating pace, etc. And for strides, you usually don't want to fall much below 180 steps per minute, like Heber said. To run faster, increase your steps per minute. When I am racing I will be as high as 195.

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2 Miles outside at night in the heat.  First mile in 9:39, 2nd in 9:56.  The heat bothered me more on this run than usual.  I felt a little sick to my tummy at the end. 

I woke up this morning feeling a little sore.  I think I should have warmed up better yestereday when I ran.  I started off fast--like 8:00 pace and gradually slowed down the whole way.  Should have done the opposite.  Oh well.  The way I feel today, I think I better take it really easy tonight--not in mileage, but in pace.  I plan tp do 3 miles tonight--stopping every mile at my house to douse myself with water.  It really helps that everyone around here uses their sprinklers at night.  It is a cardinal rule of mine to always run through sprinklers if they are on.

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From sarah on Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 23:12:22

That is sooooo exciting that you are running may ebb and flow but yay for faster!!!

From Kristina on Fri, Jul 13, 2007 at 13:12:59

Running in the heat is awful. But running through sprinklers is great. I love it. Anyway, Seth and your dad haven't been able to take apart the elliptical yet. We are both out of town now and they didn't have time before we all left.

From Seth Farnsworth on Fri, Jul 13, 2007 at 23:29:06

Hey Lybi! Did you hear we ran in the brisk mountain air at 10,000 feet today? It was awesome. I think that Kristina is progressing faster now than she did before she had the baby.

Anyway, I read that you ran in the heat and my heart went out to you. Our run was so pleasant and beautiful. I wish we lived in a mountain.

I love your goals Lybi. Kristina also wants to be able to exercise through her next pregnancy.

I also liked the bit about running through other people's sprinklers. You're lucky they don't try to charge you for the service ;)

Keep it up Lybi. We are running just barely slower than you, but if you ever moved to NM, Kristina would be an excellent running partner and I would push myself hard until I could keep up with James and that would be fun for all of us. :)

From Lybi on Sat, Jul 14, 2007 at 01:41:17

I can keep up with James as long as I am on roller blades (as long as we aren't going uphill). He he he. He once ended up pushing a jogging stroller with 2 kids and pulling his wife (I held onto his shirt) because there was a steep hill. Everyone driving by was gawking.

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I set couple of records this run: one for having the most high-tech gadgets on my person, and one for being the soggiest run ever.  I had 4 gadgets--the garmin, my mp3 player, a heart rate monitor, and I held a pepper spray thingy in one hand.  Pretty cool.  In lieu of talent, I've got gear.   Not that there is anything wrong with being speed-challenged, and it is certainly not an excuse for slacking on the training.  Right, Sasha?

I was extremely fortunate in my sprinkler timing today.  There was a long stretch of grass by the lake with sprinklers on the whole time, so I just kept running the same .33 mile loop around that one lake and completely soaking myself each time.   They were the kind of sprinklers that hold still, so if you run in the right line, you can get COMPLETELY drenched.  It was heaven.  I didn't even notice the heat.  My shoes made that squishy sound with every step this whole run.  Fun stuff.

Well, now for a confession.  I've been slipping furthur and further from my eating plan these last few...oh, for about a month, and this crazy thing happened--I stopped loosing weight.  I didn't gain any back, I think (hope).  I credit running for that.  Anyway, tomorrow I really need to drag myself back to my WW meeting, but I don't really want to because I am afraid it will be bad news.  OK.   Now that I've written it down I know I will do it--7am tomorrow, providing James is back from his long run.

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From Brent on Sat, Jul 14, 2007 at 10:32:32

It sounds like you had a kid's run today, fun stuff, don't worry about the WW if you feel and look better, muscle weights more than fat, so don't let those diet pushers get to you.

From Clay on Sat, Jul 14, 2007 at 11:53:50

I second whatever Brent said...

From Clay on Sun, Jul 15, 2007 at 00:13:27

Yes I am doing SGM this year, both my brother and I are in... Keep James in line would ya, (HeHe)....

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2 miles outside tonight.  I am crediting this blog for the fact that I got out today.  It was a small miracle.  I am learning that you don't have to want to do it, you just have to DO it.  It is easier when you want to, though.

I missed my weigh-in this morning.  Oops.  Big goal for next week is to get that done.  2nd big goal is to not miss any running days.  Alternate doing 3 miles one day and 2 the next. 

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From Christi on Sun, Jul 15, 2007 at 11:17:24

Hey You- No my DH doesn't run. Wish he did, but can't get him to. Oh well. Agree with what you said above, you just have to DO it, often I don't want to, but happy I did afterwards! How's WW going? I'm on week 8 and have lost 4 lbs. That really doesn't seem like squat- but its actually good for me! I was at a total plateau without it. At first I was only losing .6 a mtg, lately I've lost 1 lb at the last couple mtgs. I'm hoping for close to 1 lb again this Wed- BUT the Cold Stone Ice Cream BD cake I bought my hubby isn't helping!

From Kristina on Mon, Jul 16, 2007 at 12:00:40

Yea Lybi, you are awesome. I still don't have that whole running when I don't want to thing down :) I missed Saturday again. My sister cam up with her kids so Seth and I didn't make time to get away and run. Anyway, you are great for always perservering!

From Sasha Pachev on Mon, Jul 16, 2007 at 16:55:55

Lybi - first priority should be to get the run done, then weighing in. I assume your ultimate goal is to be in good health. If so, one's ability to run long and fast is a much better indicator of one's health than the weight. Weight observation can be helpful to try to figure out what your body is doing, but one should never have a particular weight as a goal of any significance. An experienced runner who has monitored his weight for years may use his weight as a tool to measure where he stands fitness wise, but if his weight is "wrong", but his fitness is at its prime, he should not worry about his weight. Weight should only be a concern when all other things have been done to improve fitness, the mileage is peaked, the training is perfect, the runner knows for sure his extra 5 pounds are really extra, and he is not hitting his top performances.

I suggest running a 2 mile tempo on the exact same course once a week, always applying the same effort, and see what time you get.

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2 miles outside at night. 10:24 and 11:12

What a break!  It actually started raining on me during this run.  Somebody up there must love me (and not want me to die of heat stroke).  This is probably the first time I've seen it rain in the last 2-3 months.   I had to stop because of a blister on my ankle (this comes from running in soaked shoes) but I felt good enough to do more otherwise--actually I had planned on doing 3 tonight.  So I'll do 3 tomorrow, then a TEMPO 2 mile on Wednesday.  That'll be exciting.   Hopefully I'll be doing a 2 mile tempo every Wed. from now on.  Let's hope I can see progress. . . Maybe I should run this first one really slow, so that I'll be SURE to see progress.  Just kidding. 

I'm excited.

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From Michelle on Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 12:38:45

Rain? I'm sooooo jealous!

From christi on Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 19:57:45

Good job! We had rain here too yesterday (along w/ power outage) it was fun to see lightening and enjoy a storm for a change...

From Brent on Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 22:20:51

I have read a few running articles: that you can add a minute a mile to your time in heat above 90 degrees. It will be interesting to see your pace in cool weather, I bet you will be surprised in the difference. What pace are you planning for your tempo run?

From Sasha Pachev on Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 23:26:07

Brent - according to the Tinman chart , which I find quite reasonable, 90 degrees makes 5:00 mile a 5:16, so a 10:00 mile becomes 10:32. At 100 degrees, 10:00 mile becomes 10:56.

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This was supposed to have been my run from yesterday.  It's been one loooooooooooong Tuesday, because *blush blush blush* I never went to sleep last night.  I stayed up ALL night reading this absolutely delicious book. 550 pages in one sitting.  Although this is probably the most irresponsible thing I've done all year, I am having a hard time summoning up remorse.  I really enjoyed reading all those hours by myself with no little boys climbing on me.  Best sleepless night ever. . . now if only there'd been bon-bons.  Just kidding!  Anyway, I didn't want to do my tempo run on absolutely zero sleep, so I'll do it tomorrow.  I'll be super happy if I am able to keep it around 9-9:15 pace for 2 miles.  Especially in this heat!  Let's take off a minute per mile for 100 degree weather, shall we?

2 miles tonight outside.  Felt rather sluggish (believe it or not!)  About 10:40 pace.

*Sniff sniff*  Feel free to chastise me.  Accountability, it's a killer!

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From Kristina on Fri, Jul 20, 2007 at 00:50:09

Since I'm a readaholic, I'd love to know what book kept you up all night. Though maybe it's not a good idea since I might stay up all night too :P

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Well, a number of good things to report today. 

First, I made up 2.5 hours towards my sleep debt last night.  That's good.  I read an article on sleep that says that your body accumulates a sleep debt over time, and it keeps track of the debt for a long time!  I should be able to make up for Tuesday's indiscretion in 2 or 3 more nights of increased sleep.  Just think about it: those of you who get by on 6 1/2  hours a night instead of 8 every night have about the same sleep debt as a person who stays up all night once a week. 

Second, I went to WW today, finally, and GOOD NEWS!  I haven't gained any weight (after 1 1/2 months of not going to meetings) so I didn't have to pay any extra dough, since I am technically at goal weight.  (I set it high so I could stop paying sooner--after you've been at goal 6 weeks, it's all free, unless you get 2 lbs. above goal weight.  I'd still like to loose a few more pounds.)

Third, I had a great run tonight.  Temp was 104.  Slight breeze.

Warm-up .67 miles at 11:20 pace.  2 mile tempo run at exactly 9:00 min. pace on average.  First mile at 8:49, second at 9:11.   Cool down .44 at 12:40 pace (this was the hardest part of the run, I wanted to stop so bad and just lay down on the pavement.)  HHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRAYYYYYY!!!!!  I'm so excited.  I had set my goal to try to beat 9:15 pace on average.  I had serious doubts as to whether I could do it.  There were several times in the run when I thought I should just stop and try again another night, but then I would look down at the garmin and I was going 8:20 or something, so I would just slow down a little bit--anything's better than stopping.  As I was finishing, I had no idea whether or not I met my goal.  I had to look at the garmin report.  I am stunned--at this temperature, with no competition, still trying to catch up on sleep.  YEA!  I hope I can beat this next week.

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From Kristina on Fri, Jul 20, 2007 at 00:52:30

Man, my sleep debt must be insanely huge. Maybe on the days when I end up not running I can justify it by paying back my sleep debt. Just kidding (though I think that is what I did the other night. Anyway, it's awesome that you had such a great run. I'm excited for you to move here :P but it's probably going to kill me to run with you :P

From Maria on Fri, Jul 20, 2007 at 04:28:38

You're doing awesome, Lybi! I can't imagine running in 104 degrees. When the weather cools off, you'll see your pace drop significantly. For now, you should go by effort more than any specific pace. Maybe you ran this too hard, because you shouldn't really feel like stopping and laying on the pavement after a tempo :). It should feel hard, but you still should be breathing in a nice rhythm, not wheezing like at the end of 5K. You'll learn what the right effort is with practice. Oh, yeah, and it helps if you sleep at least 7 hours a night (I usually get only 6.5).

From Brent on Fri, Jul 20, 2007 at 09:51:09

Lybi, If you could run a 5K in 60 degrees, lookout, 8:20 pace in that heat is tough to run. Eye of the Tiger, 15 commando points for you on the effort.

From Sasha Pachev on Fri, Jul 20, 2007 at 12:29:30

Good, now you will not be afraid of running 9:00 pace. Make sure to measure out a standard loop rather than just running by Garmin all the time. It can fluctuate quite a bit, although will usually average out to the correct distance in about 10 measurements.

The desire to quit could have something to do with the sleep debt. The lack of sleep will primarily attack your neural drive. The result will make the same physical effort that you are very capable of appear a lot harder. That is perhaps the primary reason for the third leg of Wasatch Back Relay being so hard.

It takes a while to overcome addictive behavior. Having a regular fitness evaluation tempo run will help you be more disciplined about sleep. It works much better than the scale. You will not gain any weight by just staying up all night, but the tempo run will be slower, and a lot more miserable on top of it.

From christi on Fri, Jul 20, 2007 at 12:51:05

Hey Lybi- Great job on your running. I like how you set specific goals. I still need to get a Garmin or something so I can track splits better. I know I've slowed down a lot since spring when I got some PRs, I think its because I've been working on getting in more miles and they've been slower & easier. Oh well. And awesome job on WW. I'm afraid I set my goal too high. I was at top of acceptable weight limits when I signed up, but they put me down for a 10 lb goal for weight loss, but they said to talk to them after I hit 8 because they may stop me there. But I've only lost 4 regardless. I think the last few will be SLOW! But I'm very happy with the progress I've seen so far and love reading about yours! Vacation is going great, beautiful San Jose, Santa Cruz & Folsom!

From James the hubby on Fri, Jul 20, 2007 at 15:39:47

You rock! You have more guts than me - I would not have tried a tempo run in 104 degree weather . . .

I was not surprised at all to hear that you are still on target with your weight, and I also agree with Maria - right now your tempo run should be by effort instead of time, and you shouldn't feel so exhausted after a tempo run that you want to lay down. Over-exertion, especially on sleep debt, can lead to you getting sick again. And we don't want that to happen . . . love you!

From Sasha Pachev on Fri, Jul 20, 2007 at 22:28:53

Yes, James - thanks for mentioning this. Tempo run should be done in the best conditions possible. Of course, creating an opportunity to run in those conditions usually takes some work, but it is very well worth it. And again, we have the law of camel back involved - add up little things, and you eventually break down under their weight. That is one reason I put a lot of emphasis on the details of recovery - sleep and diet in particular.

Also - the tempo run is not a race. It is a test of how fast you can go at a certain fraction of your top capability. You must feel in control start to finish. Your goals should be very approximate, and you must resist the temptation to push harder to reach a particular time goal you hoped for when in truth you lack the fitness to do it with the correct degree of comfort (or discomfort, depending on whether the glass is half-full or half-empty). It is, nevertheless, a very fulfilling experience to be able to run this way, and still beat your race pace from a month or two ago.

From Michael on Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 10:25:41

Wow running in 104 degrees, I dont like running much when it is above 85. And the lack of sleep can hurt, I know I dont get enough with the busy schedule and the fact that we dont have cooling so it can be 90 in our house so it takes me awhile to fall asleep - need to get a new swamp cooler. Good luck in your training

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2 miles outside at 10:19 pace.    Felt a little brisk.

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I ran 1.5 miles (10:25 pace) to go pick up my car from the oil change place around 1 pm.  I was intending to run another 1.5 in the evening, but it didn't happen. This was the first time I've run in the sun in a long time.  It was hot, but I also felt kinda shy because I was running along these really busy roads.  I hate it when people watch me run.  Left over stuff from high school, I guess.  I always feel like they are watching me and thinking that I am so slow!  But logically, it is much more likely that people are either thinking "man, I really need to start exercising again like this girl" or "what kind of crazy person would be running in the middle of the day in Mesa in July?"   They have a point there.

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From Brent on Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 13:12:02

Lybi, thanks for your comments about the race. it is always great to hear from you. By the way, I have one thought about your running. When I first started running I remember what a mental barrier 30 minutes of running was. If you could somehow fit in your schedule to run a longer than normal run every week or two, it may really improve your conditioning. I remember when I increased my average daily run from 4 miles to 5 miles, made a world of difference in my conditioning. It seems everyone has almost a magical point in training that when you get past that point, your level really jumps. Sasha may have some scientific terminolgy and reasons behind this barrier thing.

By the way, I did the same thing a few weeks ago to pick up my truck, it feels weird to run in a part of town that we normally do not run. I was not worried about people looking at me, I was hoping they would see me and not hit me.

B of BS Rools out

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Did ya miss me?  My kids are sick and up a lot at night with croup/breathing problems.   Also fairly discouraged about the treadmill not working, and having to try to find time to run now that James is also running in the evening.  

Tonight was sooooo beautiful.  We had a huge downpour, and it cooled everything so nicely!  I took a non-running super sweet friend with me.  We walked a lot and ran some, but she is just starting out and I don't want to push her at ALL so that she will not dread going with me.  Maybe eventually we could be running partners.  Counting chickens, I know.  I still credit her that I even got out tonight bc I am TIRED.  I'm going to bed. 

PS  Wasn't it great reading all those race reports on the 24th!  Great role models on this blog.  I love it.

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From Heber on Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 11:21:04

I missed you!

From michelle on Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 11:49:53

We did miss you! With or without a running partner just hang in there and run when you can! The cooler months are just around the corner! ( Much to my dismay!) That should make it much easier! And who could ever quit when you get nights to run in the rain! Nothin like that right!!!!

From James the hubby on Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 15:48:55

As the weather cools off, there will be much more time in the afternoon for getting out to run, and hopefully we can figure out what is wrong with the treadmill when I get home from work today. I think a little better planning on our parts will ensure that you have enough time to run.

From brent on Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 23:31:38

Lybi, running partners are great, I hope all you chickens hatch. Story on sick kids: I read that the great runner Grete Waitz, won the New York marathon several times, had sick kids and could not run. She ran in place, in a laudry basket. Now that is dedication. It did not say if the clothes were clean or dirty.

From sarah on Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 23:48:08

That's hilarious...not the part about the sick kids or the treadmill but just that right before I started reading your blog I was thinking...I've missed Libby.

From Sasha Pachev on Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 23:55:22

Lybi - good job getting out.

Brent - I've read a similar story about Emil Zatopek - running in a laundry basket. You can get a run done while watching three kids quite easily. Just go to a park, have them play, and run laps around them. I've done that a few times, one time I got in the whole 10 miles like that. Robert Yara, a 2:16 marathoner would take his kids to the track, and had them play in the field while he did the workout.

From Lybi on Fri, Jul 27, 2007 at 11:11:25

Thanks for the encouragement everyone!

Taking my kids to the park or the track is a good idea for when the weather cools off a little. I feel like I would be torturing them (and me) to go out during the daylight hours. Park equipment turns into blazing hot cooking implements this time of year.

I'll have to keep the running in a laudry basket in mind, although it boggles me a little. Wouldn't it be better to just run in place? How does the laundry basket help? It would make an interesting blog, though.

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5K outside in 21:55.  Oops, I mean 31:55.  Details, details...

Average pace 10:18.  Felt a little rough at the end.  Probably bc I am exhausted.  Sleep deprivation related to sick kids, and Harry Potter book 7.  (Wasn't it good?!  I loved the chapter about Snape the best...and Harry walking through the forest. *sniff*  What a great kid!  Anybody who hasn't read Harry Potter should read the whole darn series just so that they can enjoy the transcendent pleasure/excitement of the last several chapters of book 7.  I am not even that huge of a HP fan and I just LOVED it!)

In other news, guess what?  My fabulously mechanically-minded hubby fixed our treadmill with his bare hands!!!  He called up the customer support line.  Turns out he just had to tighten a belt in the motor.  We didn't even have to buy a part!  And to think we were getting ready to chuck it and get a new one (ouch$$$).  Yea!  It will be a lot easier for me to be consistent about getting all my runs in now.

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2 on my beloved Fredmill.  He's still acting just a teensy bit weird, but at least he works.  10:00 pace for most of it.  I slowed down once to catch my breath.  I was watching "Cheaper By the Dozen" and I kept laughing out loud while I was running.  It was great.

Yea!  My 2 year-old slept through the night.  Hopefully the croup is over for him.

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From Sasha Pachev on Fri, Jul 27, 2007 at 18:05:06

You should not have to slow down on an easy run to catch your breath. If you feel the need, you are going to fast. Run the easy runs at 10:30 or 11:00 pace instead, and try to go longer.

From Lybi on Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 15:25:01

Hey Sasha, thanks so much for the advice. Woo-hoo! Now I can feel good about slowing down a little. I am still trying to do 3 one day and 2 the next, do you think I should be trying to do 3 every day?

I'm gonna send a feedback email.

From michelle on Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 20:01:57

Glad to see you didn't stop running and that is great that Fred is back to helping you!

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I woke up with a sore throat this morning.  Probably what my kids all had.  I didn't feel sick other than the sore throat.  I hope it stays that way.  I took it super duper easy taking each of my little guys for a run.  Probably should have gone farther, but I was being conservative. 

I wish I had a dog to run with.  I don't think I'll ever have a dog, since James is allergic to anything cute and fuzzy.  I was thinking that I wish I could rent a dog just for safety while running.  Then I got the idea that there is probably someone out there with a dog that has too much energy and needs to be exercised.  So I put up signs in my neighborhood saying that I am a "dog runner".   Satisfaction guaranteed.  Very affordable rates.  He he he.     

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From Penny on Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 13:42:53

What an awesome idea. I bet you get some calls.

From Michael on Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 16:56:43

I run when I can with my golden retriever which I like when I can find a place and he loves it of course. Challenge is it can be akward at times when he is on leash which is needed in most areas so you get the tamglements or the times when he is trying to go in another direction. Running off leash is OK when you are more alone or have more open space, but you have to keep track of him. Need to either carry water or have sources of water as they need it too. He doesnt do well in heat like me (as he is old like me!)

From Brent on Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 23:19:36

Lybi, if you do get the dog running job what will be your handle? You know, like the dog whisperer? The best way we have found to control a dog running is with a "gentle leash". it goes around like a normal collor and then has a loop around the snout of the dog. Dog's are very easy to train with this leash as you can give the dog a gentle pull on the leash and it gently jerks their head, works great. I would not recommend one of those long extension leashes. If you don't get the dog for safety, carry some pepper spray. Good luck.

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I love rain!  Rain is soooooooo...dah!  Words can't describe it.  It's just a gift and that's a FACT!  I was scheduled to run with a new friend from church tonight, but oddly enough, she didn't want to run in the rain.  We're gonna try again on Thursday.  I ran with my super sweet non-running friend Holly tonight instead & she did so well!  She ran 1.25 miles and only stopped to walk once.  She's gonna be sore tomorrow, though!   Her husband asked me how on earth I got her to start running.  Apparently he loves to run and he's been trying to get her to run for years.  I think the secret trick is that I'm not her husband.  Husbands must tread very carefully when suggesting that the dear wife needs to start exercising.  : )  I hope I can run with Holly all the time from now on.  She's like a sister to me, only tall.  (He he he.  That is a jab at my nymph-like mini-sisters.) 

I felt GREAT on this run.  It was cool, and I could've run longer and enjoyed it, but I am under a time constraint.  So good night everybody! 


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From James the hubby on Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 23:53:49

Three cheers for rain in Arizona! I love running in the rain too, but not in downpours or thunderstorms - just rain. Running in the rain is somehow very liberating. Just you and the rain . . .

You are a motivation to many others, including family and friends. I'm not surprised that she would want to run with you :)

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I ran with Holly again.  She is not sure she likes running at all.  It is just pure pain and torture--no fun.  I told her I used to feel the same way!  We went 1.5 miles and raced the last tenth of a mile.  Fun.  Then I ran another 1.6 by myself.  Felt okay, it was nice and cool.  I was maybe slightly less energetic from the stress of a challenging day.

My little 2 year-old broke his arm!  First broken bone in the family.  He was very brave and sweet throughout the whole ordeal of getting it checked, x-rayed, and casted.  Just a little cuddle-bug the whole time--crying only whenever it was touched.  Longish day that ended up even longer because he had a very hard time sleeping.  We were up well past 2 am last night.  Although I am very sad he had this terrible injury, I am so grateful for all the wonderful people who helped that day.  Quick list of amazing coincidences (tender mercies, really):

1.  My friend was visiting when it happened.  She watched my other kids--no need to get babysitter.

2.  My pediatrician had an immediate opening (THIS NEVER HAPPENS!) So I didn't have to take him to the emergency room.  The pediatrician was running on time, and we were in and out in less than half and hour--amazing, no absolutely unprecedented!  The Dr. was so gentle examining him that he didn't even cry--he just winced once or twice.

3.  The X-ray place is right next door to the pediatrician's office, so I just walked over, carrying Adam.  Amazingly, they were almost empty and we were seen in under half and hour.  The tech was soooo good, and again, Adam didn't even cry.  5 minutes after the X ray was taken, a tech rushed out to the waiting room to tell me that Adam needed a splint RIGHT NOW and helped me put it on.  I was out the door 5 minutes later with the X-rays in hand and a diagnosis--mildly deformed distal radial fracture.

4.  I called the casting place and they had an opening in under and hour.  (My pediatrician had warned me that it often takes several days to get in to get an appointment.  I guess they often just leave the splint on for awhile.  Maybe Adam's injury was given priority because it was "mildly deformed"?)

Anyway, now Adam is fine, and if you ask him if he likes having a cast on he will say yes!  He is so much more comfortable with it on.   Thank goodness for modern medicine!   Every single person I met with yesterday was kind, helpful, and so gentle. 

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From James the hubby on Wed, Aug 01, 2007 at 17:04:15

You can tell her it was really hard for me too when I first started - I was huffing and puffing just running a couple of miles at a slow pace (for me - around 9:00/mile). BTW, I think it is pretty amazing that Adam's is the first broken bone in our family.

From Brent on Wed, Aug 01, 2007 at 23:04:16

Lybi, cute son, great that it all turned out. You did not tell how he broke his arm. I hope you can get Holly to stick with it, it takes awhile for the runner's high. If she sticks with it, she will be so glad.

From Lybi on Wed, Aug 01, 2007 at 23:38:47

Brent--I just bought a new organization thingy for toys from IKEA. It has bins that you pull out, but they don't slide easily. He stuck his hand in one of these bins while (he he) standing in the empty bottom drawer of our entertainment center (which is against the rules!). He fell out of the drawer, and his hand was stuck, so his forearm broke against the side of the bin. Ewww. I still feel so sad that I wasn't right there to stop him from climbing in the drawer in the first place.

From Christi on Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 11:52:22

I love IKEA! Ok had to say that first off. Just bought both my kids dressers, my son a desk & daughter a bookshelf. Cheap and works well. Anyway- your son is adorable! He probably thinks having a cast is fun for now, hopefully that won't wear off too soon. Thanks for your sweet comments on my blog, I'm feeling TONS better than last week!

From sarah on Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 23:41:43

How's adam doing today..poor baby...

Answer to question about cookies. Sasha LOVES baked goods. He especially loves my carob chip cookies which I do have a recipe for online. I make them all the time for my little and big cookie crunchers.

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Evening run. 

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2 miles with Holly.  She was very sore, so we took it very easy.  Walked a lot too. 

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Ran 2 miles with Holly at 14:00 pace (this is including walking breaks).   She ran probably 90% of the time, which I think is just fabulous for someone starting to run for the first time ever.   Then I ran 2 more alone at 10:15 pace.  For someone who says she does not want to run, she is proving to be quite dedicated--or at least open to running often.  

Holly and I went grocery shopping today.   She is trying to teach me to cook more healthy meals, or at least cook a little bit.  We happened to both be wearing skirts.  Someone stopped us in the aisle because she thought we were LDS missionaries.  Very flattering to be mistaken for a 21 year-old.  (Especially since between the 2 of us, we have 8 kids!)  Anyways, this sweet lady did not let the mere detail that we weren't actually real missionaries stop her from pouring out her soul to us and seeking comfort.  It was enough to look like missionaries, in this case.  I told Holly that we should bring BOMs next time.  I bet we could place a few . . .

If anyone is concerned, little Adam is recovering well, although he does not sleep soundly at night.  He can't really get his thumb to his mouth (he only sucks his right thumb, for some reason).  I guess that is a side benefit of the cast, or it WILL be, once he has adjusted to no-thumbville.  In the meantime, James and I are having our characters refined.

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From Lybi on Sun, Aug 05, 2007 at 11:56:58

Lybi, you could have been a cowboy (girl) in the old west telling a story around the campfire. Always making tidbits of life meaningful. Way to go on encouraging your friend Holly to run. Hopefully as her conditioning improves, so will her pace, so you two can train for maraton together some day. By the way, I am clumsy as heck, I have a few stories about my recent biffs I will put on my blog.

From Lybi on Sun, Aug 05, 2007 at 14:57:32

What? That wasn't from me! Who accidentally impersonated me? I wanna read about your recent biffs!

From James on Sun, Aug 05, 2007 at 17:46:27

I know what you mean! My little boy broke his leg a year ago today, when he was 11 months old. It didn't seem to set him back, infact he had already adjusted to the cast by the end of the first day. Little kids are pretty amazing, and they mend so quickly. Besides, you don't really want your kid sucking his thumb anyways, so it might be a blessing in disguise.

From christi on Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 00:10:04

Hey Lybi- I like how you comment on your own blog! Just kidding! That's funny about being mistaken for missionaries! Did you go on a mission? I filled out the paperwork (then got married) does that count? J/K... Wish I could have gone shopping with you, I could use the healthy shopping/cooking tips. As the new school year revs up one of my goals is to have more healthy meals together. Anyway- great job on the running and converting all your friends & relatives to run also! Love it!

From Brent on Mon, Aug 06, 2007 at 09:47:42

Lybi, me and Slyvia got quite a chuckle out of your comments on bowling pins.

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Evening.  Crappy run.  I wanted to do my 2 mile tempo run tonight.  I missed my last two bc of serious sleep deprivation related to kiddos.  1 mile to warm up at 11:15 pace.  Then I started my tempo. I started off really good, felt pretty good.  Ran the 1st mile in about 8:40.  Did not feel all that fast to me.  (My last tempo run was at 9:00 pace, but it was WAY hot compared to tonight.)  However, when the Garmin beeped the mile split, I unexplicably found myself walking.   Very odd.  I walked about .25 and then started up again.  Ran the next mile about 8:40 too, although I don't have an accurate time bc of stopping for darn stop lights. 

Well, I guess it wasn't that crappy.  In fact, it was a pretty good clip for me.  I just wish I hadn't stopped in the middle.  Maybe I'll have to try again later this week.

Holly's house is almost exactly 2 miles from my house.  I see a very good possibility for a 6 miler one of these days.  2 miles down, 2 with the Holl-ster, and 2 back home.

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I intended to run 4 miles and only got around to 2.  Holly ran a whole mile without stopping!  She is improving very quickly, I think.  Then we did pushups and crunches and whatever else we could think of that would make us sore the next day. 

Oh, my little son!  I took him to the orthopedic Dr. today.  Bad news... his little bone is in the wrong place to heal.  It is 15 degrees off.  I hadn't even realized that it was broken all the way through.  The Dr.  said it had just shifted around bc his chubby little arms don't really let the cast hold the bones perfectly still.  He said to give it one more week for it to (hopefully) straighten out.  Then we go back, and if it is not properly aligned, they will have to either rebreak it or do surgery.  I would really appreciate any prayers on my little guy's behalf!  His name is Adam.



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From Maria on Tue, Aug 07, 2007 at 17:32:34

Oh, Lybi! So sorry to hear about Adam's troubles! Where's the guarantee the bone won't shift again even if they re-break it? I would think they can do a better job with the cast, so that it holds position better, or put his arm in a sling so that it doesn't move so much. Poor little guy. I sure am hoping for the best.

I highly recommend you run tonight. Maybe it'll help to take your thoughts off the situation a little. There is nothing you can do but worry, and it won't help much. Get out and expend some energy, maybe you'll feel a bit better.

From sarah on Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 00:01:18

Yes...I second Maria's advice to try and get your mind off it for a few will help you be more sensitive to him when he needs you. I'll pray for you guys...poor little guy..

From Michelle on Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 04:08:50

Hang in there! sometimes those little bones can do some crazy(good) things too! I hope it heals up and everything turns out o.k. Did you get your 4 miles in? Going from not feeling like you've got time to the 4 miles is great!

From Michelle on Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 04:17:39

Hey I just read your comment to Christi...We couldn't hate you, your the envy of every girl on this blog...well maybe the entire planet! Does he do the grocery shopping too! That would be just too much for me to handle, maybe you better not answer that!

From Christi on Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 12:26:18

Lybi- yah, I'm hating you that your hubby cooks- j.k.! Jim cooks out of necessity- its that or he won't eat! Sorry to hear about Adams arm, I will keep him in my prayers.

From Christi on Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 12:27:53

I just read Michelle's comment about how bones can suprise you- I agree. My little niece (2 yrs old) just broke her arm a couple months ago and they thought the same thing, but after some extra time in the cast, she was OK. Hopefully it will be the same for Adam...

From Jeff on Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 13:53:37


I came and looked at your blog after you posted such a nice and encouraging comment on mine. You and your son are in my thoughts and prayers. Kids are very resilient and I'm sure he'll be fine. Please don't forget to to spend some time taking care of yourself during all of this.

From sarah on Wed, Aug 08, 2007 at 23:39:54

Yes...I second Maria's advice to try and get your mind off it for a few will help you be more sensitive to him when he needs you. I'll pray for you guys...poor little guy..

From Lybi on Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 00:11:55

Thanks guys! You are all so sweet. It really is a boost to get these concerned comments. I am at peace about it, and Adam is happy. Time will tell.

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2 Miles with Holly.  It was fun.  She only needed to walk 2 times the whole run.  See?  If you can't find a runner for a partner, take someone you like and ask them to run.  Actually, almost everyone I have ever asked to run with me has said yes.  People want to be healthier, in general. 

Wait--there was that one lady who was too "intimidated" to try running with me.  I could laugh myself right out of my chair over than one.  I am about as intimidating as a 2 legged gerbil when it comes to running, IMHO.  (But a determined 2 legged gerbil nonetheless.)

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From Holly on Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 02:32:31

You are SO much more intimidating than a gerbil when you're running! rofl That really doesn't come out as much of a compliment, does it? I only hope to gain as much as you seem to have in as short a period of time.

From holly on Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 09:46:46

OK, now I'm posting in response to my own answer. It just came out wrong! I mean, "gain as much endurance and speed as you seem to have in as short a period of time." sheesh. open mouth, insert foot. 8)

From Maria on Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 18:11:38

Lybi, do you know that Paul Potts just released his first CD in UK, and it's already topping the charts? It will be released in US in September, but you can still order it now from Amazon as an import. I listened to some extracts - all beautiful songs. Some people criticize the mixing, production, his technical imperfection, etc. But he still has that magical quality that makes you get goosebumps listening to him. He is planning US concert tour in January 2008.

From Michael on Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 21:39:31

I imagine piano teachers can be fairly intimidating runners! Glad you found someone to run with. Hope your son is doing OK

From Shauna on Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 01:49:19


Another Valley of the Sun runner-yay! Also, I took piano lessons for 10 years, and I still love to play. It's up there with running as the world's greatest stress relievers.

All of my PRs were set about two years ago, when I was either training for a marathon or had just run one. I'm hoping to get faster this year!

I'll say a prayer for your son.

From Lybi on Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 14:22:50

Maria: Thanks for the info! I'll be sure to get it.

Michael: I am NOT intimidating, but for some reason, my students do sometimes cry during lessons. OOPS! Thanks for the concern for my dear little one.

Shauna: That's so cool that you like piano too. I'm sure you'll do nothing but get faster if you continue to blog! Adam is acting very happy--we'll see what the X-rays show next week.

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Ran 2 miles over to Holly's house a little briskly for me--9:59 and 9:42.  Then I went 2 miles with Holly.  Then I stayed awake in bed giggling about a funny thing Holly told me during our workout.  

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From ashman on Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 17:04:57

Hi! Lybi it's nice to hear from you. I don't think I'll be going for an Oly run, however I'm going to train like crazy and run like heck. Maybe we'll get achance to rub elbows at St George.

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First day of school!  I took Sam to the bus stop with the other two in the jogging stroller, so as soon as the bus took off, I ran 2 miles with my littler ones in tow.  All I can say is that I have the greatest respect for anyone who runs with a loaded double jogging stroller. My arms are shaking and I am EXHAUSTED!  It was hard bc I had to fight with that stupid thing every single turn--and my normal route is continuous turns around lakes.   I'll have to change my running route if I keep up this little schedule.

2 more miles in the pm with Holly.  She is going to help one of HER friends start running.  Isn't that cool?  It's like it's contagious or something.  

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From Holly on Mon, Aug 13, 2007 at 16:12:25

Oh! I wonder if your wheels are locked in a straight position? One time when I had a really hard time turning our stroller, that was the problem. ...Or it could just be really heavy. :) What a woman to get going at 7ish like that!

From wildbull on Mon, Aug 13, 2007 at 16:43:41

rock and roll! Great work out! The next time you run with out the stroller you may run 10-20 seconds a mile faster then your normal run.

From Sasha Pachev on Mon, Aug 13, 2007 at 17:26:42

When turning, it helps if you lift up the front wheel off the ground. The kids might enjoy a bit of excitement as well. Also, go to a course where you can swing really wide on the turns. Make sure your tires are properly inflated. And, of course, adjust the pace. For you, probably 2:00 per mile on the flat, 1:00 per mile on the downhill, 3:00/mile on the uphill.

From Brent on Mon, Aug 13, 2007 at 17:44:48

Hey, have the kids push while you ride for a break. I know what you mean, I have a heavy weight grandson, when I take him in the baby jogger it is a real workout. Thanks for the comments on the race. When is your 5K? I recall that you were going to run one coming up. Are you ready?

From sarah on Mon, Aug 13, 2007 at 23:46:27

If it makes you feel better..even in my best shape (Sasha may disagree but I say that that was when Jenny was a baby and I ran 5 miles a day starting at 9:30 pace and ending at 8:30 ..whew...that sounds great now) Anyway, on Wednesdays I would have to run with Benjamin and Jenny because Sasha worked at the temple in the morning (and still does and probably still will when our youngest is 18 and I can join him there). I could only push that monster of a stroller with all that weight for 2 miles. That was it! are in really good shape if you can push those babies at all I say...the double effect makes a huge difference to us women with pratically zero upper body strength.

I'm not saying you can't train to be stronger at it but you shouldn't be surprised that it wore you out so much.

From Lybi on Tue, Aug 14, 2007 at 00:52:02

Thanks for the support everyone! I feel much better about being wasted after only 2 miles with the jogging stroller now. But don't worry, I won't give up! "That which we continue to do becomes easier, not that the nature of the thing has changed, but that our capacity to do it increases." Heber J. Grant--one of my Mom's favorite quotes. I won't be able to run in the morning tomorrow, though, because I have to take Adam back to the bone doctor (THE MOMENT OF TRUTH!!!). Hopefully he will not need surgery.

Brent, it appears that my 5K is going to be sacrificed on the altar of James' marathon training. It was to be this Saturday. But, of course, James needs to do his long run on Saturday in the early morning, which conflicts with the 5K--he was going to pace me. *Sniff* To be honest, I am a little disappointed, but I also know this is a very critical time for James' training.

I love the idea of letting the kids try to push me, though. That's the most sure way I can think of to end up in a lake.

From Michelle on Tue, Aug 14, 2007 at 02:15:22

Good luck at the doctors hope everything turns out well!

From Holly on Tue, Aug 14, 2007 at 11:23:23

Oh! I wonder if your wheels are locked in a straight position? One time when I had a really hard time turning our stroller, that was the problem. ...Or it could just be really heavy. :) What a woman to get going at 7ish like that!

From Sasha Pachev on Tue, Aug 14, 2007 at 16:10:28

Have James get there early and run the 5 K course several times, taking a break to pace you. Try to not make it too much of a break for him. I think you can run 8:45 pace, maybe even faster, which is right around his training pace.

From Lybi on Tue, Aug 14, 2007 at 17:06:21

I checked, and that race got cancelled, Sasha. But there is one next Friday night and James will be able to pace me for that one. I'm excited again.

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2 miles with the loaded double jogging stroller.  I decided I had time if I hurried, which translated into 11:16 for the first mile and 11:45 for the second.  Ah!  In order to get the first wheel off the ground, I have to jump up onto the bar and dangle there kicking my feet for a second or two.  My neighbors must get a big laugh out of my running.

Hey!  I found a race that seems like it was made just for me next Friday, the 24th.  It's in the evening, so it will be easy to get a sitter and it is very close to our home.  And since it's on Friday instead of Saturday, James will be able to pace me. Plus it is the first year for this race, so hopefully it will be small.  You know I would just die of happiness if I were to actually get an age division award.  The only bad thing is that it will be very hot, being at night, so everybody pray for rain! 

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From Christi on Tue, Aug 14, 2007 at 11:22:14

Bravo! Your arms are going to be wonderfully sculpted from all that double stroller pushing- way to go!

From James the hubby on Tue, Aug 14, 2007 at 13:37:41

Are you kidding? I'm getting a laugh just picturing your explanation! I am impressed with your ability to still run 11:30 pace with a huge double jogging stroller pushing about 70 pounds worth of boys.

From Lybi on Tue, Aug 14, 2007 at 16:41:19

Adam is fine! The Dr. said he will be just a little crooked when he first gets out of the cast, but that as he grows, it will straighten out. Very weird. However, I am relieved and happy.

And Christi, you are right about the upper body workout. My arms and shoulders are as sore today as if I had spent an hour in the gym yesterday.

Thanks James!

From Mik'L on Tue, Aug 14, 2007 at 18:27:44

I've always thought mom's have buff arms- I don't know how you can carry those heavy car seats around with the kid in it, let alone run pushing a double stroller! I guess one day maybe I'll have buff mom arms. Good job!

From Holly on Tue, Aug 14, 2007 at 18:42:15

ROFL! I love it! You're hilarious. Your effort is inspirational. And let's not forget that by 7:30am here, the sun is full-on hot, already! Let's see... I have 38 + 24 + 21lbs of girls I'd have to push to go out on my own after the bus takes off. Eek! 'Guess I'll have to get used to running first. hehe -But you go girl!

From Laura on Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 11:03:01

You are so fun, Lib!! I'd LOVE to catch you running on video camera. I'm sure it would make me laugh even on a bad mommy day!! I love you!! P.S. I'm gonna go buy some running shoes and try to get my own blog on this website. You and Kristina are inspiring me ... slowly but surely! Good luck on your race on Friday

From Lybi on Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 17:43:57

GO LAURA! My older sister, you guys, my idol all growing up (and the most common victim of my compulsive borrowing syndrome as a teenager.)

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My husband James paced me for my tempo run last night.  He was so cute.  He carried a water bottle for me, kept the garmin--so he could check the pace and tell me how much farther I had to go, AND he even resorted to singing "BINGO" to me when I started to drag.  (Chuckle)

1 Mile easy warm-up.

1st tempo mile at 8:37.  This is pretty good for me, but I can definitely see that I am not used to keeping an even tempo.  It seemed to me that we started off super slow and sped up the whole way.   Short walking break.

Next half mile at 8:27 pace.  It felt pretty hard, but not painful.  I was tired but otherwise OK. Walk.  Next half mile at 9:30 pace.  

So now I am wondering what I should set as my goal for the 5K next week.  One thing I want is to pass a lot of people.  James is going to try to keep me at an even speed, so I'll be passed a lot in the beginning, but I'll catch a lot toward the end.  I really want to experience this "hunting" feeling that some runners describe.  OK don't laugh, but honestly, when I have to pass someone in a race it has typically been a huge annoyance to me because in addition to feeling the pain of running, I feel bad for the person I am passing--like maybe their little heart is breaking because they had vowed not to let any short blonde piano teachers pass them in THIS race.   I know it is RIDICULOUS.  But there it is.  I want to get a little more into the racing mindset this time.

Anyway, I was super sleep deprived on this run.  For the last two weeks I've been experiencing INSOMNIA.  Ug.  I've been going to bed at decent hours and laying there awake FOREVER every single night.  This is very unusual for me!  I hope it goes away soon.  

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From Christi on Thu, Aug 16, 2007 at 13:56:16

I'm excited for you for your 5K ! (that was awesome grammar) Anyway- your tempo run sounds like it went well. I bet you'll finish faster than you've been predicting. Don't feel bad passing others- ITS A RACE!

From Lybi on Thu, Aug 16, 2007 at 14:11:22

You're right Christi! Lemme at 'em! I can't wait to chick as many guys as I can.... Thanks for the encouragement.

From Michelle on Thu, Aug 16, 2007 at 14:12:57

WOW! you really are fast! I don't think that I could keep up with you. And I definately think you would be the piano teacher that I don't want to pass me. But I would understand because I would realize like, Christi that it is a race! Good Luck!!!!

From Lybi on Thu, Aug 16, 2007 at 14:35:25

*Blush* Thanks, but you have to realize I ran 1 mile, then walked, then ran 1/2 a mile, walked, THEN ran another 1/2 mile. I bet you could go as fast as that if it was all broken up--probably faster--especially if you had someone to pace you. Eventually, I would like to be able to run 2 miles without stopping at that pace. Actually, I wish I could run 26.2 miles at that pace. I think that would quialify me for Boston. :)

From Sasha Pachev on Thu, Aug 16, 2007 at 15:33:22

Get rid of the walking breaks. Run slower if you have to, but finish the tempo without them.

For an encouragement, the biggest obstacle to not being able to run the marathon at goal pace is not being able to run the mile at that pace. If you can run a mile at goal pace, you've won 60% of the battle. I think with proper training you could get a BQ.

If somebody feels bad about you passing them at 9:00 pace or slower, tell them to get on the Fast Running Blog, you might still be passing them, but you would have to run a lot faster to do it.

From Lybi on Thu, Aug 16, 2007 at 16:45:08

Sasha, you just made my day! Me in Boston?!? Well, I guess the catch (and it is a big one) is the proper training thing. But still--someday, when my kids are old enough (i.e. youngest 7)maybe James and I can BOTH run 60 miles a week...

From Brent on Thu, Aug 16, 2007 at 17:59:15

Lybi, you a hoot, positive road kill, at half way in the 5K, count or have James count, the number of people you pass and the number that pass you. Positive road kill should get you something special from James. Also, this also may help to monitor whether you went out too fast. Also, as you will be the hunter and chicking guys, some comment when you pass them may be appropriate, like: looking good. It can be taken both ways. Good luck. By the way, you will not be a short blond piano teacher on race day, you are a powerful conductor of your own race.

From Sasha Pachev on Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 14:24:26

Lybi - you may be able to qualify for Boston with only 40 miles a week. Or you may be able to run 60 miles a week long before your youngest turns 7. However, in order for you to make the breakthrough you need to change the way you think of yourself as a runner. You need to learn how to see yourself where you can be without letting the reality where you currently are block that vision. E.g, you are driving from Mesa to Salt Lake, you focus more on the fact that you are traveling at 75mph than on the fact that you are hundreds of miles away from your destination.

So with that perspective, you although fitness wise you may still be a mid-pack runner, you need to drop the mid-pack runner behavior in thought, word, and deed. Never call yourself slow, never make excuses for being slow, instead take your fitness and train the very honest best your circumstances permit you.

From Michael on Sun, Aug 19, 2007 at 21:16:18

I adopted Brents suggestion of "roadkill" earlier and it has helped me. I try to concentrate on the "target" in front of me and go for one at a time and I try to not let those who make "roadkill" out of me get to me, just tell myself I can pass them back.

Sasha is right too - the less I think of myself as slow or average, the better I do. Im horrible battling the negative thoughts but Im doing better at eliminating them

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Feel really good today.  No ill effects from the tempo yesterday.  That's a first.  I got the BEST sleep last night, finally.  I had to be sneaky with my sub-conscious.  I promised myself that if I wasn't asleep in 15 min., I would get up and do laundry.  I actually laid there, pretending that it was Saturday morning, and that I really SHOULD get up and get some cleaning done before my kids wake up.  (Somehow this line of thinking always leads to falling asleep!)  Well, the prospect of impending laundry did it's usual magic, and I konked out in record time.  Quite a relief after all this inexplicable insomnia I'd been having. 

2 miles with Holly, AND her friend Paige (yay!).  We had a lot of fun talking about the funny things our little kids say to other people that embarass us.  The worst was when Sam told a sweet friend of mine that she was probably going to DIE soon because she was old.   Thanks to my Dad for teaching him about the life cycle!

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From James the hubby on Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 01:34:05

Gee,I thought it would have been the time when Sam turned around in the middle of Sacrament meeting, stuck his finger up his nose and said, "booger!" :D

Glad to hear you may have found a solution to your insomnia. Let me know how it works in the morning . . .

From Christi on Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 14:35:37

Lybi- that is so cool that you are coming to cheer us at the marathon. I'll be so excited to see you! Tomorrow I'm running a 19/20 miler- wish me luck!

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2 in the morning with the double jogging stroller.  Average pace 12:35.  I had to stop and walk 2 times. 

Good luck everyone with races tomorrow!  I can't wait to read all the race reports.

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From Holly on Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 19:12:09

Wow. You got out there this morning in the heat, again! I thought you would. hehe I took a look at the Mesa weather averages for this time of year, and our low temps are running about 10 degrees warmer so far this month. In English? Hopefully, our nights will cool off alot soon!

From sarah on Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 22:28:01

I just have to are awesome you are awesome you are awesome...okay that was enough.. I really struggled with the double stroller when I did it...although I have to boast I did once run with it for a mile...8 months pregnant. And then I was especially proud that I cleaned my kitchen on top of it. If you want a laugh go to my blog and see the discussion on what Sasha thought the smell of skunk was when he first came to America.

From ashman on Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 22:38:23

Boy! I thought I was the only weird person who ran at 2 in the morning. When I was working the grave shift at a grocery store I would run around the store at break time while everyone else smoked and drank redbulls! Its cool though, you do what you gotta do.

From Lybi on Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 00:26:29

He he. Cute. Sorry Ashman, you probably ARE the only one to run at 2 in the morning. I tried 3 AM once, but I didn't like it. I actually ran 2 miles this morning around 7 AM, but it totally should count double bc I was pushing the loaded...double...jogging...stroller... (imagine threatening music here).

From Michael on Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 21:07:14

I run at 2am everynight!

Well except its in my dreams - does that count?

We did do the Sandy Midnight race last month, and got home at 1:30, it was nice having the cooler air, but I have some trouble seeing as well as I would like

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To Holly's house for a water break and back again--slowly.  The highlight of this run was that Holly's one year-old was so excited to see me and even said my name (Yibby!).  CUTE!  The low point was a persistent cramp on the 3rd mile.  1st time I've run over 3 miles at once in a long long time.  I really need to start running longer if I am going to go for a run with those girls in St. George.  : )  

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From Christi on Sun, Aug 19, 2007 at 10:43:21

Hey Lybi- thanks for your comment! Yeah, the 20 yesterday was my longest ever- I think I'm still feeling the runner high a day later (hee hee) So do you have friends down here from the blog? When you come run in St. George I'd love to meet ya! (and hey, who says we need to go over 3 miles... wink...)

From Lybi on Sun, Aug 19, 2007 at 13:38:33

I was talking about YOU! And Michelle and Mik'L and anybody else we can coerce into going for a run. Well, I guess it depends...are you going to run the day before the marathon--specifically in the pm? If not, don't worry, we can hang out on Friday night and eat lots of spaghetti! Then any chica's who aren't busy running the marathon can go for a shortish run (4-5?) in the wee hours on Sat. At least that is my evil plan at this point.

From Lulu on Sun, Aug 19, 2007 at 15:31:51

Lybi-you'll get there. Great run. Slowly increasing the mileage is what is it about.

From christi on Sun, Aug 19, 2007 at 23:53:48

Cool! Your St. George plan sounds good to me. I'm definately up for some food and maybe a run, I'll have to figure that out as it gets closer. Its been so fun getting to know ya on the blog, can't wait to see ya in Oct- isn't this blog the best!

From Holly on Mon, Aug 20, 2007 at 13:29:55

I am absolutely thrilled that a child of mine has taken to another adult (besides their daddy and me).:D I am thrilled that I SEE another adult enough for her to do that! hehe thank you for answering her outstretched arms. :)

I think you get extra credit for the heat Saturday evening. It was over 100 degrees on that run!

From Holly on Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 02:16:11

-and another thing! Tomorrow would be a really good time to RUN to the church for Humanitarian Day at 9am! Not really, It'll be much too hot... but I dodged my visiting teachers to go, so I have to at least WALK you around there.

From Lybi on Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 02:18:59

Humanitarian Day!!!!!!!!!!! YEEEEEHAWWW. I'm there, although I'll have to diss my mall-walking budding tomorrow. Can't be expected to walk a mall when there's humanitarianismation going on.

From Holly on Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 02:33:36

Oh!! SO SORRY to the mall-walking buddy. :/ That's not nice of me! I'm a walking-buddy stealer! 'But of course, no, you can't walk a mall when there's humanitarianismphylanthropism happenning. Yay! I'd like to RUN over there (not really) even a TEENY bit before 9, if we could, so even if baby girl is tired before 9, she'll have a place to lie her head.

Girl, you have got to get an IM.

This is bad for me to steal someone's walking buddy...

From Holly on Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 02:36:07

Oh!! SO SORRY to the mall-walking buddy. :/ That's not nice of me! I'm a walking-buddy stealer! 'But of course, no, you can't walk a mall when there's humanitarianismphylanthropism happenning. Yay! I'd like to RUN over there (not really) even a TEENY bit before 9, if we could, so even if baby girl is tired before 9, she'll have a place to lie her head.

Girl, you have got to get an IM.

This is bad for me to steal someone's walking buddy...

From Holly on Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 02:41:47

Oh!! SO SORRY to the mall-walking buddy. :/ That's not nice of me! I'm a walking-buddy stealer! 'But of course, no, you can't walk a mall when there's humanitarianismphylanthropism happenning. Yay! I'd like to RUN over there (not really) even a TEENY bit before 9, if we could, so even if baby girl is tired before 9, she'll have a place to lie her head.

Girl, you have got to get an IM.

This is bad for me to steal someone's walking buddy...

From Holly on Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 02:42:00

Oh!! SO SORRY to the mall-walking buddy. :/ That's not nice of me! I'm a walking-buddy stealer! 'But of course, no, you can't walk a mall when there's humanitarianismphylanthropism happenning. Yay! I'd like to RUN over there (not really) even a TEENY bit before 9, if we could, so even if baby girl is tired before 9, she'll have a place to lie her head.

Girl, you have got to get an IM.

This is bad for me to steal someone's walking buddy...

From Lybi on Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 11:34:51

Geez, some people just can't stop apologizing...

Just kidding, every single person on this blog has probably had that happen. Don't be embarrassed. Just know that every time you click the "post comment" button, it WILL post the comment, even if you can't see it on your computer at the time.

From Lulu on Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 11:41:11

and if you "refresh" the web page to view your comment it will post again!

From Lybi on Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 11:49:49

You can say that again...

From Sasha Pachev on Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 12:45:57

One day I am going to fix this.

From Sasha Pachev on Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 12:49:10

Lybi - somehow Google Adsense figured out that you are LDS. I can tell because the ad for comes up. I noticed that ad for some reason comes up on all LDS-related content. I still cannot figure out why.

From Holly on Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 17:50:05

Ok, I know they're here, because I can see "16 comments" next to this blog, and I received the new comments in my email, since I watch this blog. -I don't SEE anything after my million replies, though!

I did it. I confess. I pressed the Refresh button several times last night, to see if anyone else wrote on this thread after me. Big OOPS. The weird thing is, it did't LOOK like my comment was still there, but it kept posting and posting. :/ Sorry. It won't happen again.

From Holly on Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 18:47:42

Ok, now I can see them.

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First, Holly totally wasted me by taking me out rollerblading at approximately 100 miles an hour for 20 min.  or so.  I am counting that as one fast mile.  My legs were a-burnin'!

Then we ran (went) 2 miles nice & easy. 

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From Paul Ivory on Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 17:25:03

Lybi, thanks for your comments on my Pikes Peak race report. I did an edit and selected the race report option.

It sounds like you are into a great family challenge with lofty goals. God bless you in your efforts.


From Holly on Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 17:43:45

THAT is why running now seems so slow to me. 8) I rollerbladed many years for fun.

It was the "nice and easy" that killed me last night. 'Just goes to show you that what you keep doing gets easier.

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2.23 with the loaded double jogging stroller.  I am very proud of the .23  because this is the farthest I have ever pushed that stubborn-spoked monstrosity of a vehicle.  I am also very pleased with my effort/time.  Average pace was 11:17 and I did NOT stop to walk other than at stoplights.  Sasha said that the stroller adds about 2:00 to the pace, so this was a good run for me.  I consider my normal comfortable pace to be 10:15-10:30, so (ug) I did my best.

Thanks go out to my coach, James, for fixing the stroller's tire at 5 in the morning!

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From Christi on Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 13:22:54

Wow! Your pace is improving beautifully. Its all about getting out the door day after day isn't it? Good job! Yeah, my poor friend Heather has a nasty sinus infection that has moved to her ears. The antibotics she was using just wouldn't do the job. Now she's trying a stronger med and laying low. She's a GO GO GO girl, 4 kids- still nursing the baby, hardworking church girl, etc etc.... You know the type- crazy like us!

From Shauna on Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 13:59:38

Good job Lybi! I ran with a stroller once, pushing my best friend's newborn, and it was HARD! Isn't it great to see your times improve?

Good luck in the 5K this weekend!

From Jeff on Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 14:17:20

Lybi-I admire people like you and Lulu so much as you train so hard and take care of little ones. Gosh, It seems at times that I can barely take care of myself. I don't know how you do it, but it is an inspiration. I agree wholeheartedly with Christi, that consistency in getting out the door every day, one day at a time is crucial, and you are doing it.

From sarah on Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 23:53:14

Isn't it fun to have Adrianne on the blog? She is so adorable in should see her dimples and a very hardworking compassionate lady. I know you'll love her. I have to also say that I'm impressed with your stroller times. Are you changing the time of day you run?

From Lybi on Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 11:03:44

Thanks for the encouragement Christi, Shauna, Jeff, and Sarah. You guys are part of the reason I just keeping trying.

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AM run with the loaded jogging stroller.  I am exhausted, as usual.  It seems that running without the stroller is just so darn easy by comparison.  Average pace for the 2 miles was 11:17.  Tomorrow, I will run 1-2 easy miles with Holly, then my race is on Friday.  It is going to be so HOT! 

Has anyone ever heard of any kind of running gear that actually helps to cool you down--not dry wicking shirts, or hydration packs--I'm thinking more along the lines of gloves that have a gel in them that you stick in your freezer.  If there isn't such a thing, there SHOULD be.  I'd buy them.  As it is, I am half tempted to carry an ice cube in each hand until it melts.   James, of course, would have to lug a fanny pack full of ice--don't know how well that'd go over. 

It is so nice of James to run this race with me and pace me.  This is going to be our weekly date--much better than going to a restaurant and consuming massive quanities of calorie dense foods.   Not that I don't like eating out.   ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.  Excuse me, I faded out there for a second.  Better go. 

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From James the hubby on Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 11:22:13

I do know of a vest that was used by some runners prior to the Olympic marathon in Athens to help them stay cool. But I was thinking I would just bring my fuel belt full of freezing cold water and squirt it on you at regular intervals, then have you chase me down . . . :) I bet you are going to have an easy time running the 5K after your legs are used to running with the jogging stroller . . . good job!

From Lybi on Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 11:29:57

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHoHOHoHO Do you have the guts to provoke the wrath of your fiery little wife? I'm sure it would make me run faster...

From Lulu on Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 11:43:00

Good luck at your race Saturday. For cooling down (men can stop reading right NOW!) consider putting ice cubes in your bra top. I guarantee that will cool your core! I have a crazy friend who stuffs ice cubes mid-race and then fishes one out periodically to eat! She's one of the top runners, cyclists, AND triathletes in this state so when you are the best, then you do what it takes!

From Brent on Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 11:59:55

Lybi, no real help here, just so amuzed with James and Lulu's comments. If you don't mind running wet, you could soak your clothes before the race. Durint the Hawaii and Maui marathon, they hand out cool sponges full of water. If you have support besides James, have a friend be ready with the soaked cool sponge to squeeze water on you. I am looking forward to your survial report, I mean race report. Good luck

From michelle on Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 14:37:29

Sounds like some good ideas! But your also very creative so I know you'll come up with a great idea. Good luck with the race! If you don't stop running with that stroller your gonna blow us all away in St. George! (I think your already faster than me normally so too late) But your also gonna have some great arms to boot! Looking forward to it!!

From Lybi on Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 15:51:51

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHa! You guys are so great! Lulu this is a whole different side to you! I am impressed. Although, I can vividly imagine going to the Doctor for frostbite in a and trying to explain exactly how it happened! No really, thanks so much for the tip. We'll see how desperate I get. Every idea is a good idea when you are coming up with options. Sponges are great too. I'm going to have to get James to carry some for sure.

And Michelle, you needn't worry about my little 2 miles a day with the stroller when YOU are the one running 6-7 milers all the time. You're gonna end up pushing ME in the stroller if you aren't careful...

From Clay on Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 16:05:21

Pray for rain, that always helps... Lybi, I think my leg is worse than I thought and I did a dumb thing last night I went out and tested it to see how it is healing, and much to my dis-liking it is the same or even worse...

I guess the ellipitical gider wasn't hurting it but the injury is not healing either so that is not a good sign, I am going to go and see an orthopedic friend of mine and see what he has to say and then I guess I will go from there. FRUSTRATING!!!!

From Laura on Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 18:37:48

Lybi, I'm finally on! Still need good shoes, but I'm gonna start blogging my walks anyway.

From Paul Ivory on Wed, Aug 22, 2007 at 21:53:13

Lybi, A group of us ran a marathon in Austin, TX in August where the temperature at the start was 104 degrees and add Texas humidity and you get the idea. We took hand towels and put crushed ice in them and folded them to fit on our head under our baseball caps. The towels extended down the back of the head to the neck, so as the ice cubes melted and cooled our head the cold water dripped down our back and it was great. We ran a course where we could replenish the ice every 2 miles. It worked great and none of us had any issues with the heat. People called us crazy for running in that heat, but it gave us a story to tell the rest of our lives. Good luck.

From crumpyb1 on Thu, Aug 23, 2007 at 10:44:05

Good Luck in your race! Enjoy all the people running around you and feed off all their energy and excitement. You have trained and you have prepared. Now enjoy!

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1 really gentle mile with Holly in the evening.  I sucked up a bunch of dirt from the air, which was surprisingly mineral-rich.  Then Holly hog-tied me and forced me to watch the TV show "Psych" with her (not really).   Well, I LOOOOVED the show, which was cute and funny.   Best show ever.  Well, I guess I may be a little starved for visual entertainment as I almost never watch TV, so I might not be the best judge.  The last thing I saw was "High School Musical 2", which was so bad it just about scalded my eyeballs.  Anyway, fun little taper day for me.  I predict that the next time I write to you I will be ... exhausted.

By the way, those of you praying for it to rain on me in the 5K tomorrow are doing an amazing job!  The rain is supposed to start tomorrow afternoon ... now start praying that I will run fast and get a good time, ok?  A 50 mph tailwind wouldn't hurt either ... probably (I am thinking of debris--ok, 30 mph tailwind).

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From Michelle on Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 09:16:44

I think that your gonna do great!!! You won't even need a tailwind, especially if it rains because you'll be so energized by that you'll pobably zoooomm to the finish and smoke all the competition!! Can't wait to read all about it!!!!!! Good luck! :) :)

From laura on Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 09:24:42

Ha, ha, ha. Thanks for the heads up on HS Musical 2. Did you hear that Lori broke her arm the other day? It's an epidemic! How's Adam's arm doing? If you get rain for your run, you'll do great!!!! Get James' MP3 player and have it play RESPECT over and over and you'll smoke 'em all!! Good luck!! I can't wait to hear how you do!!! Love ya.

From falcon on Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 11:43:00

I like High school musical but Im 10 years old. Good luck on yourr race

From Christi on Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 13:06:47

Hey, I'm with Falcon- HS Musical 2 was OK! Lybi- can't wait to hear about your 5k. You're gonna do GREAT!!!! Go get 'em and most importantly- ENJOY IT!

From Clay on Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 15:38:43

Goodluck with your race Lybi, you will do great! I will Pray for a tailwind for you, but not more than 20 miles on hour, I don't want any injuries.

From Lybi on Sat, Aug 25, 2007 at 00:20:28

Thanks guys. Okay, I guess I didn't really give HSM2 a real chance. I always say it takes 3 times of watching the first one to really appreciate it. Some of the songs were pretty good.

Thanks Clay, your prayers worked. There was a stiff wind, but it blew sideways the whole race--never really head or tail. No injuries, though!

Race: Beat the Heat Knight 5K (3.1 Miles) 00:27:02, Place overall: 13, Place in age division: 1
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I was NERVOUS at the start of the race.  I even tried to back out *blush*.  I told my beloved hubby to have a good race--I'd be waiting at the finish line.  He wasn't enthusuastic about this plan since the only reason he registered was so that he could run along side and pace me.  So the first (of many) services he rendered was to drag me to the starting line.  How romantic.

It was hot--about 103, with a stiff cross wind the whole race. The course was very flat and had a lot of gravel.

The start was notable because of the start gun, which was more reminiscent of a terrorist attack than a foot race.  About half of the runners screamed, and the rest of us gasped.  There was no "get ready, get set.." or singing of the National Anthem--just a big "KA-BOOM!" followed by a mass shuffle.

I REALLY liked running with James.  He kept me at a controlled pace from the start.  I felt really good the whole first mile.   Plus, he gave me water every 1/3 of a mile or so.  Very nice.  1st mile in 8:40.

The second mile was the hardest part for me.  The footing was very tricky because of the gravel/bigger rocks.  I rolled my ankle 3-4 times.  Plus just knowing that I still had a long ways to go was discouraging.  Second mile in 9:18.

From the mid-point of the race on, I was trying to keep track of "roadkill".  I passed a lot of people.  Probably about 20, but James and I both lost count.  Probably 2 or 3 passed me. The last 300 yards of the race was on the track, which was awesome.  You'll all be happy to know that I chicked a guy right at the very end.  As I passed him he said "good kick!"  Then, of course, I had to try to chick James.  We came in side by side, but the guy at the finish line put me first.  Last 1.1 in 9:04.   The Garmin showed the course to be short, though.  I am choosing to disregard the Garmin in this case.   He he.

Oh, I forgot to tell you...I lose a couple of commando points at the end for loss of dignity.  After the race I was sitting there on the ground (supposedly stretching my hamstrings), and I guess I left my mouth hanging open and was all slouched over and gazing off into space.  Anyway, the paramedics came running.  I asked them if I looked that bad, and they said I looked awful.  How do you respond to that?  I felt better sooner after this race than the last one, though, so that's good.  Oh yeah, and then there was the photographer who said she just HAD to take a picture of me because I looked so exhausted.  She laughed as she was taking the picture.  Anything I can do to make some random stranger's day.... I just hope they don't put that picture in the paper or anything. 

WHOA!  I finally got the race results for this race and GUESS who won their age division?!?  ME!  There were only 13 girls in my div. and I beat 'em ALL!  I actually get some kind of award!  I ran all through high school and never won anything other than 1 6th place ribbon for the mile (there were only 8 contestants.   I'm so excited!  PLUS, I chicked half the guys in James' age division.  He came in 15th out of 27.  The key to success is finding races that are not that well attended, in my opinion.  :)   Check out the age division results:


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From James the hubby on Sat, Aug 25, 2007 at 16:30:19

You did an awesome job, especially consiering the conditions. All three things (heat, wind, gravel) factored in to slow you down. Like I said last night, you just wait until the weather cools down, and you will be seeing some noticeable improvements. I am so proud of you! Love you!

From Sasha Pachev on Sat, Aug 25, 2007 at 16:40:27

What exactly did Garmin show? Also, try mapping it out on the Course Tool to see how long it actually was. Gravel is slow, about 10 seconds per mile for you. The heat and the crosswind/headwind could make a lot of difference - for example, this week I raced at essentially the same pace at a higher altitude on an out and back course, and with a 500 foot climb in the first half as I did a week ago on essentially flat course. The difference was that today it was 45 degrees at the start and maybe 60 at the finish, no serious wind, while a week ago it was 70 degrees pretty much the entire time and strong winds in the second half of the race.

With the splits you've got, though, it appears you've made some serious progress. Wait until the weather cools off, and try to find a certified course. See

From laura on Sat, Aug 25, 2007 at 17:09:50

Yeah, Libby!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can't believe how well you did considering all the obstacles you had: heat, wind, and bad road. James is right - come winter time in the Valley and I'm sure you'll be pleased with how you've improved. Ooooor, you could come HERE and race! ;) It's always cooler at my house and the accomodations are free!!

From sarah on Sat, Aug 25, 2007 at 17:33:29

Oh Libby honey....why are you was hot and flat...I think that was a good time considering all. You were probably doing 8:30 effort the whole time or faster.

Did those things really happen at the end or are you just making that up? I'm sorry....the way you put it is so funny it almost sounds like a joke. At least you didn't lose your sense of humor...So when are you and I going to start a stand up comedy show together.....we could call it...Things That Happened To Us on the Road...I think you should be very was a good job.

From Lybi on Sat, Aug 25, 2007 at 18:07:51

Sasha, I knew you would ask that. The Garmin said 2.99. I guess that is what has me a little down, because if that is correct, then the extra .1 would put me at the same exact time as my last race.

Laura, you are so sweet. I'll have to come crash at your place sometime. Choose a 5K sometime in the next 6 months and I'll make arrangements to come run it with you like James did for me.

Sarah, those things actually happened, but, of course, I have been known to make ordinary events sound a little more interesting than they were at the time.

From Brent on Sat, Aug 25, 2007 at 19:44:40

Lybi, Lybi, Lybi, great race, PR effort in the Valley of Fire, smart race, positive road kill. You are now a real runner: you don't care if someone thinks you look exhausted and need a 911 call. All that counts, you gave your best. Races are not fashion shows, no guts, no glory. 20 positive road kill points, minus 10 for some whining before the race, 20 points for terrible conditions and still giving a death defying effort, and 20 for a PR. 50 commando points.

thanks for your comments. Stay cool

From Michael on Sat, Aug 25, 2007 at 23:24:07

Congrats Lybi, glad you were finally able to get out to a race, great job with the high temps. Keep it up,hope you get to do another soon. Good commando point assessment from Brent

From Tom on Sat, Aug 25, 2007 at 23:24:38

Great job on the race Lybi! Especially in those kind of conditions! You're setting yourself up for some great PR races in the future.

From Christi on Sat, Aug 25, 2007 at 23:32:25

Lybi- First, I'm so jealous you got to run a race side by side with hubby. Enjoy that memory! You're being too hard on yourself- it was over 100 degrees and gravel for goodness sakes and 27 min is a good time and isn't that about 30 sec. faster than your last? That's great progress! You'll probably delight yourself with a cooler race this fall. Keep at it!

From ashman on Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 10:40:54

Yeah Lybi, but did you have fun? I think you were great. Anybody who goes out in a jogging stroller at two in the morning has my vote.

From Michelle on Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 16:32:19

I'm with Christi... how fun to run with the hubby! And then I think one or both of the 5k's I ran this summer were around 27 mins? But never got times on either and I can promise they weren't in 100 degree weather! As far as the ending with the paramedics... that just goes to show that you gave it your all, something I'm not sure I have completely put myself out there and done yet. And not nearly as bad as the mistake of "when is the baby due?" when it's already celebrating it's first birthday type thing, now there is something to be upset about! (Not that it's ever happened to me) But way to chick that guy at the end. My last race, there was one way anoying guy that I would have loved to do that too! That in if it's self is worth ALL the glory!

From Christi on Sun, Aug 26, 2007 at 20:38:25

Love the new pic!

From Lybi on Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 01:07:28

Brent: your comment made me smile for an hour, so thanks! And you're right, I was definitely whining, although technically the ROOLS do not prohibit whining until AFTER the start of the run...

Michael, Tom, Christi, and Michelle: What a cheering section, thanks for the comments!

Ashman: No it was not fun. But I think it was necessary. Clear message: I need to work harder, run longer. Just wait. I WILL beat my high school time even if it takes 10 years of trying!

From Lulu on Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 21:44:51

Alright Lybi, No more talk of how terrible your run was!!! Great job. Your time reflects the heat and the gravel. You won your age division fair and square and by a lot! Celebrate this one. Good luck with the next one.

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IMPORTANT UPDATE:  Guess what, I actually took first place in my age division at my 5K on Friday.  Check it out!  (My real name is Elizabeth and I am 30.)  I can't believe I ran all through high school and never won a single thing other than a 6th place ribbon for the mile (and there were only 8 people running it!)  then I join this blog and 4 months later I win a 1st place prize!!!  My basic strategy for this win was to pick a very small race (13 in my division), but STILL!  I guess everyone else was having a pretty hard time with the heat and the gravel too.  AND I chicked half the guys in James' age division (31-40), too.  He came in 15th out of 27.

So I've been thinking about improving my training.   This is what I've come up with so far:  1)  I must always have a race to train for.  I am much more motivated and consistent once I have chosen a race and set my sights on it.  (Even though I may dislike the feeling of the actual race.)  2) If I am to beat my high school time for the 5K, I have to train at least as hard as I did in high school.  Duh!  You'd think that was obvious, but somehow I missed it. 

In CC in high school, I always started from the couch and started at the beginning of the school year (none of this awesome summer camp stuff you read about on this blog).  Usually, the coach would start us off at arond 3.5 miles a day, then getting up to 5 or 6 by mid-season.  My first race of the season would usually be around 30 min.  Then next race would be 28, followed by 27, etc.  Until my last one would be around 24.   The reason I have to beat this time is that I want to prove to myself that the only thing that stopped me from getting faster was that I stopped running between seasons.  You can't reach your maximum potential in distance running after only 3 months off the couch!  At least that is what I hope.   Anyway,  I must get my weekly mileage up to at least 25, probably 30 miles a week.  So this week, I am shooting for at least 18. 

I ran at 2.36 at 5:50 this morning.  I had to be back by 6:15 so James can get to work in time.  This was a great run for me.  It was sooooo nice and cool!  I didn't really look at the Garmin, but I did push myself a little since I knew that it would have to be a short run.  But I was flabbergasted that my average pace was 9:30.   First mile: 9:45, second mile: 9:19, .36 mile: 9:18 pace.  This is really good for me, and it did NOT feel that hard.  That's almost as fast as my second mile from my 5K on Friday!  It's the cooler temps that did it.  It was probably 20 degrees cooler than my 5K.  All this makes me very excitied for fall and winter.

1.3 miles with the jogging stroller at 8 am (11:10 pace).  Ug!  Well, one day down...

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From Christi on Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 10:19:19

Yeah, wish you could have joined us in the rain this morning! I love how you broke down your goal into tangable (sp?) steps- great example to me! Your making me want to rethink my goals and how I'm going to get there. Great pace this morning too!

From laura on Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 11:10:01

Great run, Lyb!! I completely agree that working toward a race motivates you. I just decided that I'm going to shoot for my first 5K in 4 weeks, and it is MUCH more motivating to get me out the door! I'm kind of excited! Very cool plan to beat your record in HS - although I personally think you oughta "leave your past behind you" and shoot for new goals. Who wants to remember high school anyway!!! : oS

From Holly on Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 13:56:16

Wow, Lybi! Way to go! Those are lofty goals, and I hope you reach every one! Your early morning times are impressive! Cool runnings are coming for us here in AZ, for sure. I may be left in the dust, though. hehe

I personally like to "leave my behind in my past," but if it motivates you without being too discouraging, go for it!

From michelle on Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 14:17:22

Good job getting out this morning. I think that your training with the loaded stroller is paying off, without it you practically have wings!!!! I haven't got any races in mind anytime soon. I'm not aware of anything coming up. But it would be nice to have one to keep me motivated. OOhhh ya! There is a unofficial run in Oct. coming up with a few friends, gonna needs some wings of my own for that one!

From Wildbull on Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 16:57:39

first place already! Super race. Now your hooked on winning! No going back now!

From Sasha Pachev on Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 17:05:42

Note that Michelle Resendez who has run a 17:32 5000 on the track this year in Mt. Sac Relays in 80 degree weather finished your race in 17:44, interestingly enough, third overall, chicked all the men except two, and those were in jeopardy. Incidentally, she has at least 4 kids, see

This goes to show that although the course was likely short, the heat and the gravel more than made up for it. I would imagine you would have run about 25:30 under ideal conditions.

From Lybi on Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 17:18:40

And she's short, too (5'3")! Let's here it for short women with several little boys!

Ideal conditions, where can I find those? When I go to break my high school record, I'm going to take every advantage I can--cool, slightly downhill, maybe even sea-level.

From Mom on Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 18:10:29

Way to go! You are so gutsy and inspiring, you even have Laura getting into running. How are your boys doing following your example? Your whole family sings, runs and plays piano. Oh and whistles. Love you. Mom

From crumpyb1 on Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 21:58:37

Awesome, Lybi! You've already reached one of your long term goals! That's got to feel good.

Seriously, I think the stroller is a workout on top of a run. I prefer not to take my watch when I bring Will along especially after I clocked myself at a 12 minute pace. (I thought I was going fast.) 11 minute miles sound good.

From sarah on Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 23:41:03

Wow!!!!! I don't think I've ever got a 1st place must feel like a million dollars. I've got a confession to make...I'm going to start teaching my kids piano lessons. With three kids in lessons at 10 dollars a lesson we thought we'd try me teaching them for a few months and see how it goes.

I did it today for the first time and I loved it. I just take them with me when I practice the organ and they get to hear me practice..which is a lesson in itself. Then I take them one by one and give them a short lesson (don't think we'll get up to 30 minutes each for a while). The babies are always at home sleeping while Daddy works (or blogs) and everything works out. Any suggestions would be helpful but I think I'm going to really enjoy it.

From Clay on Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 23:42:06

Way to go Lybi, you are so awesome... I am so proud of you and your hard work, keep it up!

From Holly on Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 01:45:21

HOORAY! You already did it! NOW can we slow down? hehe

From Michael on Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 09:15:26

Congrats on the first place. Hey next year you will be at the young age of your age bracket and should be able to cruise to many victories

From Christi on Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 09:23:21

Lybi- You met one of your goals- 1st place that is awesome!!!! I still think the heat was a HUGE factor and if this was a fall run you'd be even FASTER! Yay!

From Mark on Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 12:00:24

Congrats on winning age group. It goes to show that it was a tough race and even though you didn't go quite as fast as you would have liked, for the conditions it was a huge improvement. You're really going to tear up the course once you get some decent weather.

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2.19 by myself at 5:50 am, 10:19 pace on average.  It was soooo nice.  Cool and pleasant.  I got to see the moon set and the sun rise.  The moon looked like a big foggy peach this morning.  I've never seen it like that. 

Operation "Get at Least one Stinkin' Mile with the Jogging Stroller" was underway at 8 am.   My boys are always trying to get me to try to pass the cars that are zooming by.  I set a new record in the mile with the stroller--10:50.

I have to say a big group thank you to everyone who responded to my race and entry from yesterday!  I am overwhelmed...and happy.   Can't wait to meet some of you guys in St. George!  Happy running everyone. 

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From Mik'L on Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 17:10:49

Lybi- I have been in outer space or something and didn't have a chance to read your race report until just now. Good job! You had a great time! Way to go with the win as well. I need a race like that to get my confidence back up. Way to go!

From crumpyb1 on Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 10:45:47

About missionary runs...

I met my neighbor, Jade, a few days after we moved here. I asked her if she was interested in running together and she said sure. Over the first couple of runs we found out a little more about each other. Jade has lived her whole life in Iowa and was a gymnist for Iowa State University. And she is very religious. Her husband's dad is the pastor at the church they go to. It's a non-denominational and it's big into fellowshiping and proselyting. Monday she asked me what makes my church different than Christians. I told her (this is the very, very short version of what I said) we are Christians and Jesus Christ is the "corner stone" of our religion. I told her we do believe in modern day revelation and that there is a prophet of God on earth today.

I blew it in some ways that I didn't take the time to share my testimony with her. I hope I get another chance.

The rest of the run we talked about who chooses the next prophet and Jade talked about how her church is creating leaders and helping people find God. There are some wonderful aspects to her church, but I think I disappointed her when I would talk about how our church believes or does the same thing.

Jade said she was looking for ways to meet people so she could tell them about her church. So when I was in a running store yesterday, I saw that they had a free group run on Sundays--open to anybody. I gave her the flier.

I hope to be Jade's friend, but I don't know how successful I am.

Today on our run, religion did not come up. Maybe on Friday I'll ask if she has any more questions about my church.

I guess as ward mission leader you could organize group runs. I think being a friend and trying to help them is a good way to do missionary service. However, I need to be more bold in saying how deeply I believe in the restoration, in our prophet, in God, in our Savior, and in the scriptures. Good luck with your calling.

So that's the "missionary runs" story.


From Brent on Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 11:37:37

Lybi, hands up in the air, way to go. I have often wondered why runners don't do a victory dance, jumping chest bumps or some other exciting exclamation of the personal victory at hand. Mostly, we are all too exhausted. By the way, as I am writing this comment, two red tail hawks are soring, looking for prey, outside my window.

From Michelle on Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 21:06:28

I guess that peachy moon was an eclipse. When I was running home from work I saw it the whole way home and never even really noticed. (I'm sure I wasn't asleep, and even if I was there are no laws agianst that right?) But then thinking back I can vaguely remeber there was something different about it!! kinda like it was in a dream or something. I don't have any races in mind right now, just enjoying getting out. These cooler mornings feel really good and so I think that it just feels good to get out and strech the legs. I definatley agree, No racing in St. Geogre.... I am the one who will be left in the dust and I see paramedics everynight at work so never interested in seeing them outside of that!!!!

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2 with Holly in the evening.   Tomorrow morning I'm gonna do my weekly tempo 2 miler in the AM.  I have high hopes that the cooler temps will yield good results.  This all depends on sleep actually happening tonight.  My 2 year-old has a tiny cold, but it kept him up almost ALL last night because he couldn't breathe and suck his thumb at the same time.  Grrrrr.  I must get more sleep tonight.   I was a GRUMP all day today.  I went to pick up my medal from the 5K this afternoon, and when the ditsy front office lady was completely unhelpful (I never did get the stupid thing) I had the strongest urge to shake her and demand it!  That's it.  I'm going to bed.

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From Christi on Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 17:32:30

Thanks for your comment about me being a good friend- I was feeling guilty for whining about walking w/ Heather today. I wish you good sleep tonight and I want to hear all about the medal when you get it! Oh yeah, my goal for the 12K Sat. is 1:04, but that's probably optimistic since I haven't done any speedwork lately... no watches are allowed on the race so I'll just go as fast as I feel I can maintain for 7.44 mi. and we'll see what happens!?

From Brent on Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 19:28:31

Lybi, the medal represents your red badge of courage. When you gave your best, you deserve the darn medal. I have quite a few stories about medals and awards at races. Often times, non-runners are putting on the race. This explains much of the problem.

From Curtis on Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 21:16:25

Thankyou for your encouragement, it was very kind. Hope you are having happy running trails. Keep up the good work.

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5K in 34:59.  Geez!  It felt really hard today.  I don't know why.  I hope I'm not getting sick.  I have just the slightest bit of a sore throat.  I'm sure I'll be fine.  I am struggling big time with everything I really need to do everyday.  I need to refine my schedule.  Might drop a few piano students, and I think I'm going to give up running at night.  If it doesn't happen by 6:15, it's not going to happen.  I'll probably give up my bookclub(s) too.  And I guess I won't volunteer as the block captain for our neighborhood this year. 

Yesterday I got my medal!  Yay!  Remember when Ashman took second in Ogden, and he said something like winning wasn't all it's cracked up to be?  Totally wrong.  It's all about the medals.  (Just kidding.)

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From Dave Holt on Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 09:52:18

Nothing wrong with taking a little pride in the hardware! Congrats!

From Lybi on Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 09:54:07

Thanks Dave!

From laura on Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 12:15:31

So, you've finally decided to join the rest of us humans and cut back your crazy schedule: 20 piano students, running, 2 bookclubs, 3 crazy boys, wonderful wife, Primary secretary, and what in the world is a block captain??? ;o)

You're awesome. Congratulations on being FIRST in your age division - Woohoo!!!!! That medal was well earned!!

From Christi on Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 12:57:47

yeah, you gotta cut some stuff out- you'll feel better! been there, done that and I still take on too much! ah well. congrats on the medal. you should start a shelf or display somewhere, pat yourself on the back!

From Sasha Pachev on Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 13:39:11

Looks like you've got a cold or something similar.

From Holly on Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 14:03:30

Oo! For slight sore throats, zinc lozenges called "Cold-Eeze" are AWESOME. In that early stage (sore throat, before other symptoms), they can often wipe out the cold entirely in an adult. It says on the box how many it's ok to take in a day, and you go by when you feel the sore throat, again. Lots of cold start there (well, and in the nose, which is not as tasty to medicate), and the zinc can KILL the germs there to help your body fight it. Did I mention they're pretty tasty? The Wal-mart brand works just as well, but they don't have as many flavors.

'Way to recognize your life is too hectic and cut back -- I need to take a page out of THAT book! :) Sarah, are you listening? hehe

From Maria on Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 14:21:05

Congrats on getting that medal!! I second Holly's comment on zinc helping with the colds. But "Cold-Eeze" lozenges never worked for me personally, maybe they have too low zinc concentration and I would have to take too many? Not sure. But what DID work great, was another zinc product, called Zicam. It comes in tablets, chewables and nasal spray, and I used both tablets and chewables. They helped significantly with terrible congestion I had. It is important to start taking them as soon as you notice any symptoms. Feel better!

From Brent on Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 14:38:37

Lybi, scrap booking is the ticket as both you and James are runners. Journaling races, pictures, etc. of your running. Medals are nice, but, it is nice to have a visual and story to remember and associate with the medal.

Congrads on the medal.

From Michael on Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 17:06:23

Yes the zinc cough drops do help. Also you seem to get sore throats off and on, I did alot in Utah too after running, and Utah is dry like Arizona, since I started drinking more fluids it has helped alot and reduced them. Of coarse you also have 3 germ collecting kids so Moms usually get what the kids carry

From Lybi on Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 11:47:27

Yea, I think that school starting up kind up stirs up a germ-fest. I got some Cold-Eeze losenges. I feel better today.

Maria: I was going to get some Zicam, but when I searched it on the computer a bunch of lawsuits came up. Apparently a lot of people who use it lose their sense of smell. Yikes! Be careful.

Laura: a block captain organizes quarterly events, like barbeques and stuff to help everybody get to know each other. SOunds fun, but I really can't add anything else right now.

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Last night I was up way too late with Holly.  We painted our toenails and watched Pirates of the Carribean 2.  Fun fun.  Plus I ate a whole bag of popcorn with minimal help from Holly.  So I wasn't feeling all that peppy this morning, but I cranked out a 5K in 33:03.  Part of it was with my son on his bike, and he had an asthma attack, so that slowed us way down for a while.

My little 2 year-old got his cast off yesterday!!!  Very weird.  His skin under the cast was all flaky and digusting, like he had leprosy or something.  Not to mention that his little arm looked quite crooked to me.  I thought something was seriously wrong, but the doctor was totally non-chalant about it all, in fact, he seemed quite amused by my mild freaking out.  Doctors!

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From Christi on Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 13:02:47

Good job getting in the 3 milers lately. Sounds like you & Holly had too much fun last night (jealous) Best wishes for your little one's arm! I hope it continues to heal correctly, I'll keep him in my prayers. Enjoy your long weekend!

From Brent on Sun, Sep 02, 2007 at 20:01:52

Painting toenails, cannot relate this to the tough as nails runner from the 5K last week. What happend to tough as nails, I guess, tough as toe nails. I have two girls, I could never relate to the girly things, dolls, etc.

Have a fun week.

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Happy Labor Day!  Hope you all get a chance to hang around and waste time in whatever way pleases you most.  Aaaaaah. 

It is official.  I am the luckiest person on the planet!  This is no mere speculation, it is a simple observable fact.  Let me lay the evidence before you...

Item #1 You know how I wrote a couple weeks ago that I really wish I had a dog?  Sunday night I dreamed someone gave us a dog and it was a very nice dream.  So I was thinking about dogs yesterday.  I passed this guy in the hall at church whose dog we had cared for while he was on vacation (and I just LOVED that dog--so cute, never barks, used to being outside all the time, plus soooo good with my little boys). 

"I love your dog!" I said in an off-hand way.  He surprised me with his response: "You can have him."   I was flabbergasted and told him that I'd give him time to think about it and talk to his family.  It turns out that they had just decided on Sat.  that they needed to get rid of him because they are too busy to play with him and give him the attention he needs.  So later this morning we are going to go pick up the cutest little dachsund in the WORLD.  I am so excited!

Item #2  Another case in point in my extreme good fortune is that yesterday at church Christine said she would like to run with me in the mornings!!!!   Yea!  I must explain.  Christine is that one lady in the ward who seems to never age, or maybe even get younger as the years pass.  She really could pass for 19, although she has 4 kids and the oldest is a senior in high school.  She ran the St. George Marathon 4 years ago and got a time around 4:15 or something like that.  Her fastest 5K (as a lady with 4 kids) is low 24 min. I think.    She hasn't been running much this last year; she just started up again 3 weeks ago.  So she ran 2.3 with me this morning, which was the farthest that she has run this month.  So this is all perfect because I think she is going to push me gradually as she gets more and more used to running.  We were running about 10:15 pace today.   She said she thought that when she was used to running she usually runs 9:30 pace or something for her slow runs.   Short story: she is really going to help me get faster.  I've always looked up to Christine as a lady who takes great care of her health, and balances church and family life really well, so I am SO EXCITED to get to know her better.   Oh, and that's the other thing.  She is constant entertainment during the run.   Our conversations go like this:

Christine: "Have you ever noticed that blabbity blabbity blabbity blah, blabbity blabbity blabbity blah. etc."

Me:  Huff huff huff "yes" huff huff huff....

So it makes it really nice, since I will have to work hard to keep up with her as the time passes, that she can talk effortlessly about interesting things.  I'm happy to mostly concentrate on not dying, I mean, my form and relaxing. 

Item #3  As if these two things were not evidence enough, one time when I was buying a pizza, the guy at the cash register gasped when he saw my driver's license.  He noted that I have 3 "7"s in my birthday and said that means I am one of the luckiest people on earth.  Not impressed?  Well, what if I told you that he was completely covered in tatoos?  There's something mystical about food industry professionals that are really weird-looking...

So anyways, if you made it this far, I should probably report that I completed the 5K after Christine was done, and that the total time was 31:05.  Yea!  Bring it on!

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From brent on Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 11:28:48

Lybi, you are not only the luckiest, but the funniest on the blog. I look forward to reading the adventures of Lybi and Christine.

From James the hubby on Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 11:41:57

Way to go honey! Glad one of us has been having some good things happen . . . you know, I bet that before you know it, you will be able to keep up with Christine in terms of conversation :) I am also excited about the dog, and think the kids will absolutely love him too. Not so sure about the tattood dude - and I thought he worked at a bread store . . . :)

From Lybi on Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 12:14:32

That was a different weird-looking food service professional, James. He's the one that said that marijuana was so great for the brain.

From Michael on Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 18:03:20

Congrats on getting the dog, now train that dachsund for a 5K. Congrats too on getting a new running partner. Too bad you werent born at 7:07 on 7-7-77, imagine that storekeepers reaction then

From sarah on Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 19:43:45

I made it all the way through your blog and loved every minute. I am soooo happy that you found a running partner that you look up to, enjoy being with and think will help you be faster. All I can say is that I HAD a running partner like that I will cherish the memory...enjoy deserve it.

From Shauna on Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 19:50:12


Thanks for the b-day wishes. I will try to keep what you said in mind as I enter the most competitive age bracket! Glad you found a running partner-that is so important. I had a running partner for marathon training a few years ago, and she has remained a good friend.

From Lybi on Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 20:08:38

I have to take just a teeny minute to say that I do already have a FABULOUS running partner that I look up to, figuratively and otherwise (Holly) but because of very busy schedules, we only get together once or so a week for running--usually in the evening. But still, now I'm even LUCKIER because I have 2 running partners!!!

From Christi on Wed, Sep 05, 2007 at 12:06:27

Sounds like you were blessed for going to church! Ok that was cheezy & "mo" of me, but true. Welcome to the world of dog owners! I'm sick today (and MAD because I need to run, but can't) So I loved reading your blog- its bringing a smile to my face. I'M the LUCKY one to have a blogger friend like you!

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31:45 for the 5K with Christine.   She made it the whole way this time.  We had a nice little negative split with times of 10:41, 10:20, and 9:48 for the miles. (.1 in :56).    I really enjoyed this run.  It was nice and cool, and we had nice conversation.  We saw a monster goldfish in the pond--HUGE--like 1 1/2 feet long and very fat, and it was gold instead of that muddy color our lake fish usually are.   Gotta get going...busy day today.

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From Christi on Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 12:00:20

Nice pace today- good job!

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1 very pathetic mile.  Not worth mentioning, except that I am very proud that this was not a goose-egg day.

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5K with Christine in 30:49.  Average pace 9:57.  This is the fastest 5K training run I've done in the last couple of months.  I loved it!  The amazing thing is that I was really really dragging when I first got up--the kind of day that could convince one not to run.  But once we got started, I really had a great run.  I can honestly say I felt better after the run than before it, and to me that is just a miracle! 

Ooh, I just checked, this is the record for the fastest non-race 5K since I started running again.  And it felt really comfortable.    I kind of wished I had taken off just 6 more seconds, though, so I could beat Paul Peterson's best time for the 10K.  Maybe tomorrow.

And one more thing.  When I got up this morning feeling like a corpse, I decided that I was going to dedicate this morning's run to all those zillions of bloggers who are sick or injured right now.  So that helped get the lead out.   Hang in there, everybody!


Later that night... 2 more miles in the pm with Holly.  She set a new record for the mile, so that was fun.  PLUS she seriously made me run fast for the last little bit.  I still say that she has a lot of natural speed, and she's not afraid to use it!

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From laura on Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 12:49:27

Hang in there is right!!! I hate this dumb hip (and knees, actually). I limped around the house for FOUR days this week; and the first day, Mike had to keep getting things for me. Ugh.

Great 5K time, Lib! Amazing to me that your race was almost 2 1/2 minutes faster. That competitive fire must burn pretty bright when you race - especially when they scare you to death with a GUN at the starting line! hee, hee.

From Clay on Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 16:01:23

Thanks for the thought Lybi, it was inspiring. I will be pulling out of SGM this week, its a medial stress fracture but I have been given the green light for the elliptical glider so I am real excited about that... Its going to be a long 6 to 8 weeks, if you know what I mean!! Happy running.

From James in Sunny AZ on Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 20:03:27

Way to go Libster! You didn't look tired at all this morning, either.

Clay, bad news on the stress fracture, but at least now you know, and you can keep up your fitness on the elliptical. Hang tough, it will be over soon.

From Lybi on Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 22:53:49

James, I doubt you could see me through your closed eyelids, buddy.

Clay, I'm so very sorry about the stress fracture. The elliptical is your friend! You'll be in great shape to run when your time is up. Way to stay positive!

From crumpyb1 on Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 22:58:46

Lybi, you have inspired me--Dedicating your runs. BRILLIANT! I look forward to dedicating my run tomorrow.

From Sasha Pachev on Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 23:45:05

My first quarter today was 2:26, and I was the one dragging the group down. My last one was nearly twice as fast - 1:23, and it felt a lot easier than the first. See training mistake #7 on the list of training mistakes above. You should never judge your condition until you have given yourself a chance to properly warm up.

From Lybi on Fri, Sep 07, 2007 at 00:59:20

Got it, coach!

From Ruth on Fri, Sep 07, 2007 at 01:04:02

Whether or not it was aimed at me, I'll take some of that support of yours for injured runners. I've got a strained hamstring with some hamstring tendinitis to boot, so my xc season just took a nosedive. Thanks!

Great job on your new accomplishments - you have such a great attitude, I wish mine was more like it! Way to be!

From Christi on Fri, Sep 07, 2007 at 09:31:56

Hey Lybi- Sounds like you've got yourself some GREAT running partners!! Don't they make all the difference?! Are you signed up for an upcoming race? If not- you should sign up! That was really sweet to mention the injured runners- Clay, Laura, Ruth & anyone else out there who's waiting out an injury- best wishes!

From Lybi on Fri, Sep 07, 2007 at 11:20:01

Ya Ruth, that was totally aimed at you too! I know how much you love running, so I can imagine the difficulty of having to wait out the healing stuff. You're gonna have a great comeback, though!

From Michelle on Fri, Sep 07, 2007 at 12:33:06

Oh my GOSH Lybi!!! You have really found your energy reserves or something!!! You GO !!!!! Those running partners you are hooking up with are really working well for all of you, if you keep up this speed and distance your gonna be doing a marathon before you know what hit ya!!!!

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5K in the morning with Christine.  I felt a little low on energy today, but still really enjoyed it.  Total time: 31:56 (10:18 pace).  I really need to adjust my sleeping schedule now that I'm running at the crack of dawn.  Naps have been amazingly hard to come by this week & I'm exhausted!

How do you like my dog?  I like him a lot.  The only real problem with him is that he is just a little too excited to see me in the morning, which has led to some unfortunate accidents.  Ew!

For the record, he is sporting headwear of obvious origins.  All part of my scheme to...try to... think like a...champion?  Yah, that's it.

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From crumpyb1 on Fri, Sep 07, 2007 at 21:47:43

I dedicated my run to Will this morning.

From Lybi on Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 10:18:03

How sweet!

PS What is the story behind the "crumpy"?

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I didn't take the Garmin with me this morning, so I just ran for 33 min.  That should be at least a 5K.  Felt pretty good.

Well, overall I'm satisfied with this last week.  I ran all 6 training days and exceeded my weekly mileage goal of 18 by a very impressive half a mile.   I still need to choose a race sometime in the next month or so...

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From Christi on Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 13:07:33

Your dog is cute! What's up w/ the ears? Did he/she get fixed? What did you name him/her? Your mileage is impressive this week- great job! Let us know when you pick a race!

From Lybi on Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 14:52:08

Christi, he has underwear on his head. All the great runners do this, I hear. (He he.) His name is Webster Sparks, but we call him "Sparky" for short.

Thanks for noticing my miles! The huge accomplishment this week was that I got up before 6 am every single day to run. That is a huge record for me.

From Cody on Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 15:03:29

I copy many of Pauls training techniques but I am afraid that this takes the cake. Putting underwear on the dogs head (just because Paul does it too) does NOT make you a faster runner. Sorry

Congrats on your mileage goal. Good Job!

From Lybi on Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 15:06:15

It really has nothing to do with getting faster--it has to do with proving my point that it actually WAS underwear, despite his denial. I mean, look at it! It looks exactly the same.

From Cody on Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 15:17:34

Do you treat your children like this too. Do they have to pay the piano with James' smelly socks/underwear nearby as a constant reminder? If so, sweet! That is the type of parenting we should all strive for.

From Lybi on Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 15:27:43

That hurt my feelings, Cody, was that your intent?

From Cody on Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 15:32:59

I guess the sarcasm doesn't come across properly. My wife says I am not funny and now I have proof. Sorry, not meant to be mean. I think I will quit trying to be funny and go back to being nerdy...

From Lybi on Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 16:21:04

Nerds are great. Don't worry, I've done the same thing lots of times. I do think you are funny as a rule.

From Christi on Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 10:37:58

I really shouldn't push the underwear topic- but I gotta know- did he get into this himself or placed there by a kid?

From Brent on Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 20:05:43

How many miles on that pair of underwear. I think the underwear should have it's own blog site and keep us updated? Please leave out any racing stripes, unless it really happends in a race.

Lybi, thanks for your comments. Every day is a fun day to read your blog.

From Lybi on Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 11:56:09

Christi--a rather...large...kid is responsible for it. The dog is innocent.

Brent! Scandalous! Double-yuck. (And also ha ha.)

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So let me explain about my dog...  I really wanted to put up a picture of my new dog, Sparky.   So, in one of those notorious attempts at being funny, I tried to make him look like the picture of Paul Peterson's dog, Gil (who could probably eat Sparky for breakfast).   Paul changed his picture recently, and now I think it's a penguin making spaghetti or something like that...I don't know.   However, I'll just take the 5th as to how the underwear ended up on the poor dog's head.  I WILL say, dear reader, that this picture is definitely on the outer limits of exactly how far I am willing to go to amuse you, so please do not expect anything else in this particular vein of craziness.  I kind of hoped Paul would get a kick out of it, too, but you must remember that the poor man runs about 100 miles a day (or something like that) and cannot be expected to read the blog of every pee-on who emulates his dog's headwear.

And speaking of peeing-on, I took Sparky on a run for the first time today.   He is not used to the leash yet, and suffers from acute I-Must-Stop-and-Sniff-Every-Bush Syndrome.  So half of the run he was dragging me to the nearest bush, and the other half I was trying to drag him away from the last bush we passed.  Well, I guess it must have been less than half, because a large portion of this run Sparky was zig-zagging wildly in front of me in an apparent attempt to get me to trip on him.   Once or twice he stopped right in front of me without warning--I had to hop over him.  I suppose if he were taller he would be a perfect training tool for a hurdler.  But being a dachshund (wiener-dog), he is really more of a speed bump than hurdle.   If ever my neighbors thought I was comical to watch before, they probably were on the floor today.   I laughed out loud myself more than once.  I had the leash wrapped around my right wrist, so of course Sparky figured out that if he went behind me and then sprinted past me on the left side, he could almost knock me down, despite his puniness.  What a great run.  I have high hopes that Sparky will become a great little training partner with more practice. I ran 1.4 with  Sparky, then another 1.3 or so alone.  With Sparky my ave. pace was 11:47, without him it was a more typical 10:07. 

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From Holly on Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 11:59:45

what a dog! well, it sounds like runs w/ sparky won't be boring! hehe i've said it before & i'll say it again -- you're hilarious. -and good job hanging in there w/ the little guy for 1.4!

From laura on Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 12:38:49

That's so funny about the headwear. I thought it was another testament to how crazy little boys can be; I never DREAMED their mother was just as silly! lol

Good job, Sparky! Keep Lybi running slow so I can catch up to her pace!! (doggy snacks forthcoming in the mail, partner!)

Why didn't Christine run with you?

From Paul Petersen on Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 12:47:57

Has Gil started a new fashion trend?? Gil is afraid of small dogs, by the way, so he probably won't eat him. But he would like to.

From Lybi on Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 12:48:16

Sparky would've eaten her. No, actually, Christine can only go on Tues. Thurs. Fri. and possibly Sat. because she has other things she has to do early on Mon. and Wed.

From Lybi on Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 13:53:42

I was talking about Christine in that last post.

Paul, Sparky would probably bark like crazy at Gil and then wet himself, based on past observation. Meanwhile you two would pass us like we were standing still (which would be likely if there was a bush in the vicinity) so the awkward moment would pass quickly. But yes, Gil is quite an icon.

From Jon on Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 14:45:00

I don't think Gil could pass Sparky unless Sparky was walking backwards... Paul would agree, too, since he describes Gil as a "lazy sack of flesh". Though Dave Nelson's sprained ankle is proof that Gil is harder to jump over.

From Maria on Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 14:45:56

Lybi, you're having way too much fun on your runs! Way to go, even with the dog pulling you in all directions :). How come I can't ever think of something to make my runs so entertaining? I don't have a dog though...

From Paul Petersen on Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 15:15:58

Gil can sprint well, but is only good for 1.5 miles before he hits the wall.

From Dave Holt on Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 15:40:22

I used to run with my dog also. Then one day she laid down and wouldn't move - not even to go back home. I had to carry her! So she hasn't gone out since.

From Lybi on Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 15:45:28

Holt--Oh nooooo! Can't say I blame her too much, though, with the workouts you put in. Hope she isn't a big heavy dog, and I ESPECIALLY hope she isn't prone to accidents when she gets picked up, like Sparky.

From Michelle on Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 20:38:21


you crack me up! How do you these die hard runners that eat, drink and sleep running to discuss dogs with underwear on the their heads and all the other crazy things that come up!!! It's great!!! Keep up the comedy relief!!!

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Hooray!  Another new (albeit tiny) record for a non-race 5K with Christine today.  30:46, which is 9:56 pace.  Actual miles were: 10:06, 9:58, and 9:45, (9:32 pace for the last .1).   Felt good...I'm happy, and as always it was a huge treat to run with Christine.  I see now the HUGE positive effect training partners can have on running performance. 

I'm starting to really notice the benefits of running in general.  I feel like I can really trust my body to make it through the day and still have energy left.   Before I started running I often would run out of energy before the day was over--and this is without even doing any kind of exercise to tire me out!  Now I am exercising, and I still have more energy.  Very nice. 

PM --One thing that is concerning me a little is that my left hip is always just a little sore.  I don't feel it during the run, but when I first wake up in the morning, and when I get up after sitting down, it hurts a little kind of like a sore muscle--right below the crest of my hip.  I need to get back to the chiro.

Another 1.65 miles with Holly and Paige in the evening.  Fun fun.  I am the one blabbing it up in this little group.  It took me fully a mile to attempt to explain the whole sniffing shorts reference on the blog.  

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From James the hubby on Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 15:10:57

Wow, you are making me jealous. I wish I had a training partner, too :( I am excited to hear about the difference in your energy level. I think for me the one missing link was the vitamins and minerals. I have decided to start taking my multi 2x per day and see if it has any noticeable effect on my energy level.

From Clay on Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 15:21:34

Good job lybi, the addiction to running is starting for you, enjoy!

From Tom on Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 15:46:37

Congrats on the non-race record and on beginning to reap the rewards of your running. Who knows down the road you may look back and find you've gradually turned into one of those crazy runners that show up near the top of the Mileage Board.

BTW the post yesterday (or was it the day before???) about the dog was hilarious. It totally cracked me up. I've taken my silky terrier with me running exactly once and that's it, due to some of the same somewhat psychotic dog behavior that you mentioned.

From michelle on Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 18:34:06

Lybi I was so glad when I started feeling that way too! I feel like it's my morning runs that energize me and fuel me for the day, also so much less groggy and sleepy too. I find when I do run at night I'm just kinda dragging through the day. I also find on Sundays when I don't run, I'm like a munch-mouth, garbage disposal eating and munching on everything. Maybe there's no conection and it's all mental but it seems to make a difference!

By the time Oct. rolls around I'm sure keeping up with you is going to be out of the question!!

From sarah on Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 19:29:39

Hey is so fun to see how far you have come since I first met you in April. You are doing awesome. That is a brisk pace..

From Michelle on Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 21:53:06

Darn those miserable hips....there seems to be a lot of that going around. When I went and got a massage today, she told me she thought mine was my piraformis muscle, I wasn't hurting at the time, so hard to tell? She did work it over a bit and tonight when I went out with McCall and just jogged easy I felt tender in the general area that my hip usually hurts, so maybe she's onto something. If that is the case, more stretching and maybe a weekly massage is the RX (more likely lots more stretching and dreaming of weekly massage, a girls gotta dream right!!!)

From Brent on Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 22:07:13

No medical advice, my hip hurts sometimes, buris sac, stretch the IT band towards the top, ice with dixie cups. This was per my physical therapist. Congrads on the PR, you will soon break 30, 29, etc. I expect you PR next summer will be down in the 26 range if you stick with it over the winter and slowly increase your running base. One question, as you get more serious as a runner, will you still be as funny? This is not a laughing matter, no funny bone, your fellow bloggers are counting on reading the adventures of Lybi.

From Lybi on Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 00:19:34

James, it is harder to find running buddies who want to run at 4:30 am, but just wait, I'll run your legs off after a little more time and training.

Thanks Clay, Tom, Michelle, Sarah and Brent. It makes me so happy when people take time out of their day to comment on my little blog.

Brent, don't worry, as long as I have something significant to postpone I will gladly spend too much time elaborating on embarrassing experiences that happen while running. Blogging is quite an effective way to procrastinate.

From Michael on Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 10:30:27

Im going through diagnosis of my hip problem, will let you know what I find out. Had MRI yesterday and started PT too, but its too preliminary and dont know results yet

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I took Sparky out again this morning.  He may have improved...a little...tiny..bit.  At any rate, our time was a little bit faster, so that's good.  First mile in 11:15, so that's a PR for Sparky.  After the next .7 Sparks fizzled out and wanted to just stop and rest.  I thought I was going to have to carry him home, but he perked up after walking a little while.   He runs twice as far as I do, with all the zig zagging.  I took him home and finished the last little bit alone.  So 2nd mile in 11:07 total.

I have heart-heavy work ahead of me today, so wish me luck!

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From Christi on Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 18:34:12

In my lazyness today I was scared to even check the blog- but your blog is too funny to not comment on! I love it! I'm just picturing you & a wiener dog running partner- too funny! Make sure its Ok that he RUNS. I have a cocker spaniel and I started running with him, then I read somewhere its better for them to walk & not run alot because of their ears- don't want to rain on your parade- probably doesn't affect daschunds anyway- just food for thought...ANYWAY- you're doing awesome with the pace & miles this week- keep it up!

From Michelle on Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 20:56:41

What is heart heavy work?

From laura on Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 22:24:00

If your heart heavy work is Sam's 1st grade - good luck, Lib!!! I know you're making the right decision. Hopefully you'll find a school that works better with him. But if your "work" is something else - good luck with that too. Love you!

From Michael on Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 13:09:42

Maybe you should get Sparky a couple of greyhounds for training partners

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Well!  Sparky did such a great job on our run today!  He seemed to finally understand that we are trying to go on a somewhat linear course.  I took him out for just one mile and we did it in 9:41.  That's a PR for him by over a minute.   He would have gone faster (especially at the beginning) if I had let him.  

Then I ran a mile alone in 9:04, which felt surprisingly good to me.  I didn't look at my Garmin and just ran what I thought was sub 10 pace--I looked down at a quarter mile and it said I was going around 8:00.  Yea!  I pushed it a little the rest of the run, but still felt quite comfortable.  .3 cool down just to get back home at 10:13 pace.

2 more miles with Holly tonight.   My hip hurt.  Darn that hip!  I think it gets tender after every time I push the pace at all.  Just have to be patient, I guess.  Run a little slower for a little longer--and get back to the chiro.

Did you notice that I changed my goals?  I want to run a Boston Qualifier someday.  That is a huge step for me to even admit that.

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From Kristina on Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 14:31:21

You got a puppy!? how cute! Dogs make nice running buddies :)

From James the hubby on Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 15:55:00

I like the short-term goals even better: "provide comedic relief for the stressed out runners on this blog." Stressed out runners?! What stressed out runners?! Are you talking to me?! :D Goals are one of those things that help us to improve. Keep working hard - you are already making big strides. Love you!

From Lybi on Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 15:58:10

Aw! I left out the most important thing--that I want to be able to keep up with you for more than a mile on your easy runs (they will be threshold miles for me). XOXOX

From laura on Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 11:58:42

Impressive new goals, Lybi! I like them. But your short term goal of providing comic relief was met the first time you blogged!!!!!! 9:04 pace - that's awesome!

From Sasha Pachev on Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 12:31:19

Very good goal. You could probably find a race where you'd win an overall award right now, although you would have to look. I've seen 5 K races where the winning time for women was over 25:00. In about 6 months, you may not have to look as hard.

As your fitness increases you need to be careful. It does not increase uniformly in all areas. E.g suppose your aerobic fitness, neural drive, and muscular strength increase, but your bones are lagging behind. If you run at a comfortable pace, pushing it only a bit, you may damage the weak bones. I would recommend not breaking 9:45 on any of your runs even if you feel good for the next three weeks. Invest the extra energy into going longer.

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Good Luck at TOU!!!!

And please don't keep us all waiting too long with those race reports.  Well, I know you'll be tired, so take your time, but just know that some of us are going to be checking the computer every hour or so. 

3.1 miles with Christine untimed.  I was taking it slower to try to let my hip relax a little.  It seemed to help, and it is feeling fine now. 

Remind me to tell you my funny helicopter story when I have a little more time.  Maybe I'll post it later today.

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From crumpyb1 on Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 16:40:00

WAIT! Lybi, did you say Twilight? Have you and Michelle read New Moon, too? I am still 12th in line at the library for Eclipse. I'd love to talk about Twilight, but I won't be in St. George. Would it be okay to do some of the talking now?

From crumpyb1 on Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 16:49:17

Have you read the first chapter of Midnight Sun on Stephenie Meyer's website? It's Twilight, but from Edwards perspective.

From Michelle on Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 17:11:28

I can't wait for St.George, it's really gonna be FUN! I've read them all, devoured the wed site, read the chapter of Midnight Sun, Yea I'm a little obsessed you could say!!!! Yes we will definatley discuss that too!!

From Christi on Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 17:30:17

Hey guys- I'm sure you saw on the Steph Meyer website that they are making a movie of Twilight? Too bad we all live so far apart- that would be cool to go see together! Have a great weekend everyone watch out for those hunky pale guys with creepy eyes...

From Lybi on Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 19:18:57

You mean my husband James? JK. I revel in the fact that if he had bronze hair and golden eyes, he would look just like Edward (to me).

Yes yes yes. I've read every single thing on the website. The only thing I haven't read is the second half of Eclipse (minus the last chapter because I couldn't WAIT to see if a certain event was going to be covered in the book or not). I lent it out since I was being poky about reading it, and my beloved friend hasn't given it back yet. Time to call her, I guess.

Ooh, I can't wait for Midnight Sun to be published. Hopefully the movie will come out at the same time as a major marathon. : ) Here'e hoping, anyway.

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Really easy miles outside with my dog  and three sons, one at a time.  Hip felt pretty good.  My weekly mileage was over 20, for the first time in several months.

So do you want to hear my helicopter story?  A couple of months ago, on one of my blistering hot night-time runs around the lake, a helicopter started circling overhead.   In an apparent effort to help me reach my max heart rate, they shined the spot-light on me and followed me around the lake for a several minutes.  Don't worry, it doesn't mean that there was some terrible criminal on the loose.  There's a helicopter pilot training school somewhere closeby.  Hey, anything I can do to help the coming generation of helicopter pilots!  Plus, I think it helped me push the pace a little.  Oddly invogorating, actually.  Probably gave a thrill to a little person who will never be hunted down by the police.  The closest thing to an illegal act I've ever done is...oh, I suppose it was the time I got caught vadalizing a car.   Well, that sounds terrible.  Let me explain...

My sweet friend had recently gone through a heart-brake of the evil dude-inflicted kind.  And naturally, on Valentine's Day I wanted to make sure she did not feel the day drag on slowly and uneventfully (as it does for about 90% of the female population). So *ahem*  I snuck over to her house in the middle of the night and wrote all over her car with white shoe polish.  Encouraging messages, you know, like "WHAT A WOMAN!" and "HAPPY VALENTINE:S DAY!"  That kind of thing.  Well, just when I was really getting into it--really enjoying myself--a cop pulled up and glared at me.  I just froze there, shoe polish in hand, scouring my brain for a logical alibi, I mean, explanation.  Well, I must've looked somewhat innocent, because he finally just burst out laughing and drove away.  By the way, if any of you ever attempt this particular little stunt, make sure to only get the shoe polish on the windows.  I guess shoe polish can sometimes eat through car paint.  (oops!)

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From crumpyb1 on Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 22:05:13

Very fun stories, Lybi. My story of vadalizism didn't turn out so well. My friends and I ended up in the back of a cop car. We were "t.p.-ing" a friend's house and neighbors called the cops on us. Our parents, who knew what we were doing, had to come pick us up, which is probably a good thing because I don't think we were going to make curfew.

More thoughts and questions on the Twilight series...

I love how Meyer knows everything about the characters. I love reading back-ground stories on-line about the characters like how Ensme and Charisle (Did I spell that right?) met and feel in love and that Rose is good at fixing cars.

Here are the questions I posted on Michelle's blog. What powers do you think Bella will have when she finally becomes a vampire?

I think part of the reason Edward doesn't want Bella to become a vampire is because he loves her as she is now. I think he loves her human qualities like tears and the fact she is alive. Will he still love her as much when she become immortal?

Do you think Bella will ever tell her dad or mom about wanting to be a vampire?

How do you think Bella will handle being a vampire? Do you think once she finally is one, she'll wish she wasn't? Do you think she'll realize how wonderful it is to be human? Or do you think her love for Edward will be enough for the transition? Will Bella be able to manage her thurst for blood?

I hope you are able to get your book back.

From laura on Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 22:28:29

That vandalism story isn't nearly as bad as the job you, Grant and I did on Seth's car after he was married. We might not have been caught by the cops, but they wasn't able to get the cream off the windshield for months! Ooops!!!

Freaky helicopter story, though. New pilot or now, that just sounds freaky out at night.

Hey, did you tell Kristina "Happy Birthday" yesterday?

From Brent on Sun, Sep 16, 2007 at 14:47:37

Lybi, thanks for your comments on the race. Hey, I want to see the Cart Wheels when you run your BQ. Next year at St. George?

From Jon on Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 11:07:10

Are you doing SGM?

From Lybi on Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 13:22:21

Jon: NO WAY! Not this year. I just started running in April. Before that I was a die hard couch potato. But my hubby James is running it, so I will see you all at the pre-race party. Leave some buckwheat for me!

From Lybi on Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 13:53:11

OK Crumpyb1, I'm going to address Twilight on your blog.

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I took Sparky for a quick .8 miles, then ran the rest alone.  It was soooooooo nice and cool today!  I think this is a record for distance on a Monday morning.  Monday is traditionally a difficult day to get out of bed for me, with all the craziness of the weekend, and such a long day of hurricane clean-up effort on the house ahead of me.   When my alarm goes off, will I  ever just get up and turn it off?  I have a tremendous internal struggle every morning that I'm not scheduled to run with Christine.  "Just 10 more minutes" I think. "NO! Get up..."  "PLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEAAASE"  "Don't be such a wuss, remember the blog." "Groan...ok."  Every time.   Oh well, at least I've been  successful at getting up every time in the last month or so. 

Sometimes I think I must be a whole difference species than Sasha.  For him, it seems that once he has made up his mind, he will ALWAYS follow through.  No missing days, no cheating...ever.   I guess I am specifically thinking about diet.  I really want to improve my diet, maybe even try vegetarianism, but that all goes out the window when I am out on the town with my girlfriends.  Oh well, several months ago I didn't have it in me to even exercise consistently, so there's improvement at any rate.

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From James the hubby on Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 14:30:16

Good job of cranking out the miles today. I better watch out - before I know it, you will be wanting to run 5-6 miles/day. As your mileage and fitness go up, your times are going to naturally come down, because will start to come closer to your potential. Now, about the consequence for staying up too late . . .

From a diet perspective, I really think that we have improved a great deal, and are overall eating very healthy. I don't think that a pazookie once a month, or some pringles once in a while constitutes a bad diet. You are doing a great job, keep it up. Love you.

From lulu on Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 15:26:58


Good job on getting out on a Monday morning! We are a different species from Sasha. We can only read his blog in wonderment! I read his top ten excuses not to run yesterday. It's a list that he pulled from the bloggers. He's been reading my blog! Actually, I find the blog very motivating knowing what I have to write. I am going to read that list periodically to see if I can avoid the excuses a bit more.

From Lulu on Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 15:29:31

Oh, I forgot... This might help with the last little bit of diet clean up you indicated you need. I think of food as fuel. So instead of telling myself I can eat whatever food I want because I run and burn the calories, I ask myself if it is the best fuel for what I want to do in the next few days. It really helps me make good decisions. I haven't eaten ice cream (which I could eat 3 meals a day) in months.

From Tom on Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 19:02:32

It seems like there are some 'species' of people out there who can set their mind to do something new and radically different from their regular routine, go cold turkey and follow through with exactness. Most people on the other hand (me included) don't do to well trying to change to many things in our life all at once. Seems like it took me about 15 years or running before I could bring myself to make dietary changes needed raise my health/fitness to a higher level. In the mean time I learned that I could run a bunch of miles a week and STILL gain 10-15 lbs over a year by eating lots of junk. Personally I think we're OK if we're a bit patience with ourselves, and not expect perfection but just improvement, and just by making small steps over time we just might look back after 10 years or so and say WOW! Look how far I've come!!

That being said I don't I could ever give up ice cream completely for more than maybe a week or 2. There's gotta be a place & time for an occasional indulgence doesn't there?

From brent on Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 20:20:24

Lybi, it sounds like just a semi bummer day. A run is the best cure. I have my best runs when rolling out of bed seemed impossible. Those are the days that are most important for me to run. Hey, think of commando points, they can be turned in for valuable runner high moments. 10 points if you get up and go next monday morning with an extra 100 for a cart wheel without crash and burn.

From Sasha Pachev on Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 20:31:30

Lulu - very good thinking. Just think about pouring in gasoline mixed with sand or something else that you think will make the engine purr in delight, but break down later for a special treat for your car :-)

From crumpyb1 on Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 21:27:25

Wow. What inspirational entries. I agree with Tom that small steps and persistence in trying to be better will create big changes in our lives. Change takes time.

Well, back to Twilight. I laughed out loud when I read that you thought Bella would eat her mom. I thought you were serious and wondered how you thought Bella would pull it off until I read the next sentence.

I think Bella will be very attractive as a vampire like most vampires are, but I don't think that will be her power. Because the Arizona boys weren’t attracted to her. Being extra sensitive to smell could prove interesting, especially in the beginning stages of being a vegetarian vampire.

Have you ever heard of the Pendragon series by DJ MacHale? During my last year of teaching my students introduced me to the series. I like it. Currently, I am reading book eight, which came out in May. Today I found myself down because I can't figure out how Bobby Pendragon, the protagonist, will beat Saint Dane, the antagonist, and save Halla (which is everything--all the has ever existed in the past, present, and the future). I was so frustrated not knowing whether Pendragon and his friends would defeat Saint Dane, I skipped ahead and read the last few page. There wasn't much hope there either. I’ll have to wait for Book 9 or 10--for closure. Seriously, I was so wrapped up in the book, I had to stop and remind myself a few times that the characters and story weren't real.

Let’s hear it for good books! Yay!

Happy Running!

From Cody on Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 21:29:44

Thanks for the comments Lybi-

That internal struggle (and the Sasha voice winning) is what causes the dramatic improvements. Keep it up and you too can crush your high school times.

From Michelle on Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 22:02:28

I missed the entry where you thought that Bella would eat her mom, where is that?

I agree with Tom, gradual steps and looking back is how I think I function, I think back to my lifesyle with our kids, exercise and eating to even 10 years ago, and I can see great improvements, so I just hope that in the next 5 to 10 years will show the same. I would be horrified to the way I used to feed my family then, and also the lack of activity then. I do wish I had more self control with sweets and ice cream ect., but I'm hoping it will come. (Then what will I look forward too?) A balance I think is the answer!

From Lybi on Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 23:37:58

Michelle it is a sad sad day when the thing you look forward to most is a lack of sweets...JK, no balance IS great.

The Bella post was on Crumpyb1's blog.

Sasha and Lulu. Just for you two I ate oatmeal today with absolutely no sugar. Fuel is disgusting, that's all I have to say about that. But I guess I will never overeat it, so that's good.

From laura on Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 23:51:30

hee, hee! Love you, Lib. Try adding fruit to your oatmeal tomorrow. Fuel doesn't have to be paste tasting, does it? I didn't know you were so into these vampire books!

From Lulu on Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 11:44:34

Lybi, Laura is right. A bit of fruit will make your oatmeal seem like a treat. Blueberries, actually any berries are especially good. Also, unless you ate a boat-load of oatmeal, that by itself may not be enough calories. Consider adding fruit and an egg or some lean protein to the meal. Anyway, thanks for having some oatmeal for me today - now I don't have to eat any (YUCK!) :-).

From Sasha Pachev on Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 13:19:17

Lulu - one way to solve the boat-load problem is instead of cooking the oats, just moisten them with something, I use soy milk, I have also used apple juice in the past. I also add raw Spanish peanuts, dried dates, and some fresh fruit. It actually tastes very sweet to me. You can always sweeten it with honey if the fruit does not cut it.

From Tom on Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 13:28:38

In regards to the oatmeal topic....besides the toppings Sasha suggested, some of the other things I've done to add some flavor/zip to oatmeal include adding raw walnuts, almonds, yogurt, raisens, shredded wheat, and (don't freak out) cottage cheese. The last one may sound a little weird but it's actually pretty good in combination with some of the other stuff. For basic sweetening honey is my personal favorite.

From Lulu on Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 14:09:53

Who knew that oatmeal could generate so much interest?! I used to eat oatmeal before running. It looks like I may have to go back to it with all these new recipe suggestions. I am going to make my lunch now and it won't be oatmeal. I do make a wicked salad. Multiple kinds of lettuce, tomatoes, kidney beans, avocado, cheese, sprouts and whatever else I throw in there.

From Lulu on Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 14:12:31


I hope you don't feel like we hijacked your blog! :-)

From Lybi on Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 15:45:47

Wow, I don't think I've ever had 17 comments before...and all this from oatmeal! Well, I am REALLY excited about the idea of putting nuts in my oatmeal because I love nuts, and we have some peaches too. MMmmmm peaches. Thanks for the ideas, everyone.

Laura--those are not vampire books. The are transcendental Calgon-Take-Me-Away, put off everything that can possibly be done 'til later, read them until you drop fine escapist literature.... Also, if you want to get to know new ladies in the ward, bring a copy of one of these books to church and ask if anyone has read them. Soon you will be swarmed with enthusiastic ladies frothing at the mouth and talking non-stop. Of course, it must be said that it is totally fantasy-land when it comes to the romance part. Not a real love IMHO. The ideal is that the couple can sit around and stare deeply into each other's eyes--for eternity...Still kind of fun though, sappy, but fun.

From Tom on Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 15:49:36

What is it with these vampire books? My wife just finished one and started another that she can't seem to put down. Should I be worried?

From Lybi on Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 15:55:51

Tom, she'll recover! In the meantime, prepare to be a little more affectionate than usual. He he he.

From Tom on Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 16:09:47


From Holly on Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 16:23:41 is a great resource for vegetarian meal ideas, and all kinds of other stuff to know if you're thinking of going veg. (i'm not, btw.)

your comments on the twilight series cracked me up. :D it's all true! unfortunately, the books were TOO far from reality for me to function while reading them, so i will just have to find other books to love. jeremy and i are going to reread "a series of unfortunate events" together, so i can remember the bad beginning, etc, before i read "the end." barbara brooks wallace's mysteries are fun, too. they're like reading dickens w/out the work.

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10:11 pace on average for 5K with Christine.  Very fun.  Now I'm all excited about trying to eat healthier.  Are eggs good for runners?  I usually have oatmeal or eggs for breakfast.

Oh, and I forgot to mention that last night I set a new world record (for me) in the getting to bed early division--8:55 PM!  This morning I woke up BEFORE my alarm went off (at 5:30).  Definitely a first.

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From Shauna on Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 16:09:07

Yes, eggs are great! They have lots of protein to help repair your muscles. I had an egg sandwich for dinner last night. The egg on the piece of whole wheat bread is a perfect blend of carbs and protein (for what it's worth, I am not a dietician!)

It's also important to eat carbs after you run. If you eat breakfast after your run, eggs would be fine, but throw carbs in there too.

From Clay on Wed, Sep 19, 2007 at 10:19:01

I agree, eggs are very good for runners. Nice job on getting to bed Lybi, I envy you. With our 5 kids it is impossible to get to bed some nights, atleast at our house it is...

Keep up the good work you are doing great!!

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I set a new record today...for the most PITIFUL run ever.   I'm talking 2 min./mile slower than my average, and I had to stop and walk after only 1.5 miles.   I have no clue what was wrong with me.  Probably due to oatmeal somehow--nothing else has changed. JK I was really down today too.  Neural fatigue?

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From Michelle on Wed, Sep 19, 2007 at 22:26:47

At least you got out, bonus points for going even when it's hard!! Good Job!

From Mik'L on Wed, Sep 19, 2007 at 23:32:53

I agree. We all have those days. You are good just to get out when you have them.

From Michael on Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 18:44:11

Try some algae and grass - I hear it works wonders

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Christine and I set another record for a non-race 5K today: 30:38 (9:53 pace).  We were surprised because we were both feeling really tired at the start of the run. 

I think yesterday's very blah run might have been caused by feeling sad about piano.  The night before I had told my piano teacher (who is AMAZING) that I needed to stop taking lessons for now.  I really just need more time with my family in the evenings.  I know it had to be done, but it was hard.  


PM I'm just leaving to run 2 more miles with Holly and hopefully Paige. 

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From James the hubby on Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 10:19:44

You go girl! It is amazing what getting up and running can do for us. I think you are starting to speed up because your fitness is continuing to improve. You are doing a great job, keep it up.

From Lybi on Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 10:48:13

Thanks, James! I think I am speeding up because I don't want to embarrass myself in front of Christine. What's the, ego, health, ego...

From Kristina on Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 14:18:09

Yes Lybi, you are amazing. Here you are getting better and better and I'm getting worse and worse. You are so inspiring! :p Anyway, I'm glad you are doing so well but if you ever move here (which I still think you should) then I've got a lot of catching up to do before then. :)

From Michelle on Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 15:16:50

Lybi !!! Look at you go! Just think what you will do under the pressure of a race! Look out!!

Sorry about the piano, that I'm sure is a difficult thing to decide. But remember to evey thing there is a season, and seasons do come and go. (Usually faster than we think! So just enjoy those little ones for now!)

From Tom on Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 15:20:40

Congrats on the non-race record! Also sorry about the piano lessons. I play the piano also (not very good though) and look forward to the day when I have time to take lessons again and put in decent practice hours. I haven't taken since college days and don't know that I will have time until I'm near retirement age. I think it's great you teach lessons though, I tried teaching my boys for a little while but I was pretty lousy at it. Thankfully there are some great teachers in our area who have been able to undo any damage I may have inflicted!

From sarah on Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 15:29:03

Thanks for the idea about the longer runs...I think you've hit on something. I was freaking out about it but I guess I'll just take raisins with me and be grateful that my legs work. I have oh so much sympathy for not being able to take lessons from an Amazing person....I was taking organ lessons from one of the best organist in the country(who happens to be in my ward and listen to every single release that I don't get perfectly)...but I told her it wasn't working out because I simply can't consistently find the time to practice and make the lessons worth her time.

From Lybi on Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 23:35:56

Thanks for the comments, guys.

Tom, I hope you are able to find time to take lessons again, if that's what you want. You know, Sasha practices the piano every single day!

Michelle, you are totally right, this stage with my little ones is very fleeting. Thanks for the validation.

Kristina, please don't be hard on yourself. You should have seen me after Sam was born. I did nothing but eat and nurse for 6 months at least!

Sarah, you do so much. I'm glad you don't have that pressure anymore! May all your appliances be healed quickly, too.

From Clay on Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 16:47:08

Lybi, you are out of control girl. It is amazing how running can energize you and make you feel so much more alive, you are really increasing your fitness level. It also helps to get the rest that you and James have been getting, and also eating healthier, I am really proud of both of you.

Oh ya, go easy on James today where its his Birthday!!!

Keep up the awesome work!

From Mom on Sat, Sep 22, 2007 at 00:23:03

So where is James' blog. I can't find it. I know he is seriously training for his marathon next month. have I just missed it? Happy Birthday James. Go golfing!

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Warmed up with the dog and then each of my boys, consecutively, for a total or 1.44.

Then I ran 3 miles alone, with splits of 10:01, 10:43, 10:15.  I don't know why my second mile is always so much slower than the rest of my run, I guess it was just a little teeny tiny bit uphill in parts, so I'll blame that. :) 

Thanks everyone who wished James happy birthday yesterday!  He's such a good guy.

Hey!  Fall is finally here!!! I would like to take a quick minute and say how GRATEFUL I am that I made it through my first Arizona summer as a runner and didn't quit!!!!  Hallelujah!  Now it seems cooler and nicer every time I go, and in addition to that, running feels so much more comfortable and energizing now than it did those first few months.  It's all downhill for the next 8 months or so!

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From Lulu on Sat, Sep 22, 2007 at 13:03:02

You have really been consistently putting in the miles. Congratulations! Sorry about the piano lessons. I only wish I could play. I actually took lessons for many years as a child, but I am not musical at all. You would never know I have had any musical training at all!

From Lybi on Sat, Sep 22, 2007 at 17:11:47

Thanks Lulu. I feel a little bit sheepish because I missed a running day yesterday for the first time in weeks, but there were extenuating circumstances. Very extenuating. Ya, that's it.

As for your music, blame it on your piano teacher. She'll never know, and anyways, I personally think anybody who takes for 2-3 years should be able to play for the rest of their life, if the teacher emphasizes the right stuff. Geez, I hope no other piano teachers out there read this and get mad. Anyway, if you ever pick it back up, I'm sure you'll progress really quickly.

From MichelleL on Sat, Sep 22, 2007 at 18:25:36

I lived in North Scottsdale for one year (including the summer) and Tucson for 2 years (but thankfully just two summers).

Surviving the summer there is just as harrowing as surviving winter in many other extreme climes.

Congratulations for surviving! Did you feel like you learned some techniques to help make your next running-summer better?

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Woo-hooo!  I shattered my record for a non-race 5K today with a time of 29:10.  That's about  a minute and a half faster than my old record.  I can't believe it!  I wasn't even pushing that hard (except at the end) and I had not been looking at the Garmin, but when I saw my 2 mile split I knew I had a chance to break 30 if I pushed it a little, so I did--but I was still SO surprised with my finishing time.  Yea!  Splits were: 9:49, 9:37, 8:55, and :48 for the .1. 

Best Monday run EVER!  I think the temperature really helped.  Today was the first day that it actually felt a little bit cold to me when I first started. 

I've been thinking about doing an experiment this week.   I'm going to try to have a no sugar, no white flour week and just see what it's like.  Is it impossible?  Is it feasible, could I do it long term?  Just an experiment...Anybody else wanna try it with me?  If it works well, I'll try to do it until St. George.

I'm going to try to reach 21-22 miles this week, which will be a new record for me.  Wish me...hmmm..I was going to say "luck", but I think "consistency" is more appropriate.  Wish me consistency, everybody.

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From Christi on Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 09:57:48

Hey Lybi! I just got back from a week out of town and was catching up on the blog. I looked over your last week. You're doing AWESOME! Great mileage and pace and yes you should absolutely pat yourself on the back for running through an Arizona summer! Sidenote- I'm not the healthiest eater, but I am mostly a vegetarian. I do eat fish, but that's the only meat Jim & I eat. Just saw that you were toying with the idea....

From Mik'L on Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 11:55:21

Good job on the run today! Have fun with the diet...I'm definitely out on that one. No sugar? That's just wrong :)

From Clay on Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 11:58:39

Great job today Lybi, and on the no sugar diet there is no way I could do that either, I am a wimp. But I will see how you do and then maybe I might try it if you notice anything good from it...


From Mom on Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 12:13:12

It is a good experiment. You actually did it for a few months before if I recall. Of course you were not running then. I am up to 7 1/2 minutes on the elliptical exerciser. I am waiting to feel more energetic. So far I am more tired at night. But a good tired. I am trying to cut down on sugar and white flour. More whole grains. I am thinking about getting some Splenda. Is that a good idea?

From Sasha Pachev on Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 12:23:49

I'll do it with you.

From James the hubby on Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 12:52:50

FYI, the temperature this morning was a balmy 67 degrees. Woohoo! It was awesome. Great job on your run, I am more impressed that you did not feel like you were pushing it really hard. There is no doubt that you will be able to run a great time at your next 5K - I would think somewhere in the low 26:00 range would be well within your grasp.

From Lybi on Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 13:03:25

For a second there, you had me scared, Sasha. I hadn't read the other comments yet. I misread your comment to think you would run a race with me. I think I would probably explode or something from effort. Or maybe pull one of these (see this video!)

From Holly on Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 14:41:30

Congrats, Lybi! I am inspired by the weather, too! It's because of my bday, you know. ;) I was so invigorated, I cleaned out my van while the baby napped (my other two girls helped), and (3 laundry baskets & one box of trash later...) I even vacuumed it.

I really feel like I need to cut out my dairy for awhile, because even a relatively small amount made me miserable Friday night. Soooo, it's not the same as your diet, but I will cut out the dairy this week. (For those who don't know, I am sensitive to milk and have mood-altering, unpleasant but ignorable physical symptoms when I have too much of it too often. Since I enjoy cheese, etc so much, I pretend I don't have this problem. >>) I've got to go to the store! lol

From Tom on Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 14:50:17

Congrats on yet another training PR. I agree with hubby James that a 26:00 could very well happen at your next 'official' 5K.

Good luck on the diet also. I've sort of been doing this diet the last month but I can't say that I've been 100%. But I do think it has helped my training and definitely helped me get rid of my "India gut".

From Lybi on Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 15:35:17

Christi: that's cool that you are a pescawhateveryoucallitvegetarian. Do you eat eggs and milk products?

Mik'L: Thanks, eating mainly algae and wheat grass is wrong, no sugar is just "mildly odd", doncha think?

Clay: this is easy compared to doing 50 min. on the elliptical trainer, so you are definitely NOT a wimp.

Mom: Great job! I'm so proud to be descended from you. Love you.

James: Thanks, I'd be faster than that if you'd just let me hang on to your shirt...

Holly: Every 15 min. spent cleaning a car is worth at least mile ;). Hey, I'll eat your dairy and you eat my sugar. Actually, it's the Pringles and bread I think I'll miss most. Be sure to eat at least one can of Pringles this week. Pizza flavor.

From Sasha Pachev on Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 15:57:10

Lybi - they actually sell a gadget that allows one runner to tow the other. I would be illegal to use during a race, but it would make for an excelling training tool, it will reprogram your mind, and then eventually the body will catch up.

Also, as your fitness increases, the cravings for bad food decrease. They say you are what you eat, but I think the reverse is true as well, you want to eat what you currently are. So with that in mind, if you want to become better, you start by eating better than what you feel like to jump start yourself.

From Holly on Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 16:12:11

We had to know that if there WAS such a gadget, Sasha would know about it. hehe! Speaking of comical runs involving a leash...8)

You may have to clarify on the "no sugar" part of the diet. You still can eat fruit and normal foods sweetened (but not oversweetened) w/ healthy alternatives to white sugar, right?

I will totally look into having a can of Pringles w/out dairy for you.8) hehe I'm not sure if there is one... Have some "cheeese!" (-wallace) for me. :)

From Michelle on Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 17:48:16

Good job on the new record! As for the diet, I'm not sure if I could handle that? Yes please clarify. Maybe white flour or sugar, I like baby steps! But keep us informed and I'll make up my mind after tomorrow! Callzee just reminded me that I'm going on a feild trip with her tomorrow. It's to Provo, like over 4 hours on the bus with 5th graders. They limited parent's to about 3, and I woke up not feeling so great after work last night today.... I think I'm gonna need all the white flour, refined sugar and anything else bad that I can think of to get through the day. Caffine, formaldihyde? (spelling) anything else you can think of I might benefit from? Oh I better feel better and get out and run today, til I'm dead so I will be in a comma for the bus ride! (I always dread this, but when it's all said and done, it's usually not too bad!) we'll see!

From Sasha Pachev on Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 18:10:57

Michelle - in 2003 after missing the Trial's Qualifier in St. George, I decided although the chances were slim, I would run a few Saturday marathons around the country to be able to live with a peace of conscience for the next 3 years knowing that I had done my honest best. To make the long story short, I found myself running my 6th marathon of the year in Huntsville, AL one week after having run another. I started out hard, was still off pace, but was hanging in there until 18. Then the wall hit me in full measure. I got to the finish, and now another marathon started immediately. My flight was leaving from Atlanta which was 3.5 hours away soon enough that I had only enough time to get changed and go. I knew that I would be drowsy, and I would absolutely have no chance to stop and take even a 10 minute nap, so to deal with the problem I grabbed lots of grapes and yellow bananas from the race, and headed for the airport (got a new PR, 3:02 from the start of the race to being dressed and driving). First hour was terrible, but after getting some food in I was fine, never drowsy. No caffeine, no junk food, stayed awake just fine, it can be done.

From crumpyb1 on Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 21:07:55

Congratulations Lybi! And I wish you the best of "consistency."

And now about Eclipse, I finished Saturday. I put my thoughts, predictions, and questions on my blog today. Check it out if you have time.

From Lybi on Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 21:19:51

I have the following things to say:

I'm sure my neighbors would love to see James dragging me around the neighborhood on a tether. I'm going to end up on Americas Funniest Videos if I'm not careful.

No sugar/white flour=no white sugar, brown sugar, corn syrup, white flour or anything that has these things in the ingredients. So no ketchup. Darn. So far, honey, fructose (fruit sugar), molasses, stevia, and splenda are ok as sweetners. (Why is honey oK? Isn't it just liquid sugar, chemically? Maybe only raw honey?)

And I haven't finished Eclipse yet. There's some controversy over some of the smoochy scenes. I've heard mixed reviews. (Did you find anything in it offensive?)

From Brent on Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 23:20:58

Lybi, your great, the PRs will keep coming. You have so much excitement in your words - No doubt, sawdust with a little salt and pepper can taste great. What will you eat for the next two weeks? What counts as sugar? frutose?

From Lulu on Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 14:26:13


I am so happy you are trying the no sugar, no white flour. It can be done. Decide you will stick with it for a week no matter how you feel or how much you want it. I did it a few years ago and now I eat very little sugar or white flour. If you do it long enough, sugar-sweetened foods your previously ate with abandon, will seem extremely sweet to you. We gradually changed our household to whole grain everything and radically reduced our sugar intake. You know what happened? We take two bites of something with sugar in it and are satisfied. We don't like regular pasta anymore because it is too slimy and bland.

Ok, you've asked some questions, that I have answers for. I have done a lot of research (reading) on sugar and its metabolism in the body. I have particularly focused on high fructose corn syrup. The bottom line is HFCS (or corn syrup as is often on the labels) is evil. When it gets into your body, it goes to your liver to be metabolized. It gets broken up into glycerides and each glyceride is hung on a three carbon backbone making it a TRIGLYCERIDE. Yes, the very thing docs look for in your blood and want you to lower because of heart disease, diabetes, etc. HFCS is in a lot of things including ketchup as you noted. It is also in salad dressing, medicine, and crackers. You will have to carefullly read labels. It is also in things that are considered "natural" even though HFCS is far from natural. One such item is Arizona Iced Tea, also Snapple. Fructose, is a fruit sugar and is usually consumed with fiber which helps mediate insulin levels making it a safer sugar to consume physiologically. Honey is mostly fructose, but also has glusose and a minuscule amount of sucrose in it.

You might consider trying to avoid the artificial sweeteners. Some are metabolized into things similar to wood alcohols in the body and some still cause insulin to increase as if you have consumed regular sugar.

After the initial shock of depriving your body of sugar and white flour, you most likely will find you are less habituated to the taste and the changes will become a habit! Good luck!

From Lybi on Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 16:09:32

Wow Lulu! What a bunch of great info...I'll never eat corn syrup again! I've already noticed that my taste buds have shifted somewhat BC the other day I ate a really good peach, and it tasted SUPER sweet. It could've been candy, it was so sweet.

So honey IS better than sugar. That's interesting, and good to know. So far I haven't even had any honey. I am still going strong eating lots of whole grains and produce. (And when I say whole grain, I mean I could plant it, it's so whole!)

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5K with Christine in 29:40 (9:34 pace).  Felt pretty good.  This is a :58 PR for Christine since she started running again.   I probably would've gone a little slower if she hadn't been there, but I was DETERMINED not to be the one slowing us down.  This is why she is so good for me. 

So I got the impression that some of you might need an explanation about giving up sugar and white flour this week.  Let me there is too much, let me sum up:  Someone at church asked me "how far along" I if I were pregnant!  Never never do this!  People should all adopt Dave Barry's rule of thumb about confronting pregnant women--unless you actually SEE the baby exiting the woman's body, you should not assume she is pregnant.  Otherwise you might drive her to weird dietary changes, yada yada yada.  'Nuff said.

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From Christi on Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 13:36:41

Ah man! I had someone ask my once if I was expecting too- NOT FUN! I totall respect the cutting back on sugar & white flour- unfortunately I'm not ready to make the commitment yet. However my son Toby is in Webelo scouts and they had to plan a week of healthy meals, we are doing it this week. This has really helped be be accountable and set a good example for him. I made bran muffins for an after school treat yesterday (you know instead of the junk I usually feed him!)

From Christi on Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 13:37:50

oh yeah, and as far as running goes (sometimes I forget that's the reason for this blog- hee hee, j/k) you & Christine are rockin' n' rollin'- what great partners you make!

From Lulu on Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 14:31:09

Congratulations on making it through your AZ summer! BTW, I think you have the most interesting blog!

From laura on Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 15:10:44

Wow, Lybi! I've been sick and felt guilty checking the blog since I couldn't run. No white flour and no white sugar. I'm VERY impressed! But I thought Mom was correct in saying that you've done this once before - at least I thought you completely got off sugar before. That's a great challenge - I'm gonna have to really think if I'm ready for that, especially with Mike's family reunion this weekend (notorious for sweets!).

From Lybi on Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 16:20:18

Lybi, best to you on the diet change. No more comments about saw dust on my part. I wish I had the will power to give it a try.

From Sasha Pachev on Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 16:57:42

I remember when I was learning to drive (at the age of 23). I thought there was no way in the world I could possibly merge on a freeway with all the traffic going so fast. What finally gave me the confidence was having seen numerous 80 year old ladies do it just fine. I figured if they could do it, I could do it. It turned out to be a lot easier than I thought.

Sometimes we make a relatively simple task a lot harder to do by talking it up.

From Lybi on Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 21:11:58

Hey! Someone impersonated me...again. Not naming any names, Brent. :) (In other words, I did not just wish myself luck on my diet change.)

So far I'm happy with the food situation. Unless my scale is broken, I'm showing a 2 pound drop in 3 days. Whoa. I want to be like Sasha's Mom and loose 11 pounds in a month. :)

Lulu, thanks so much. If I can't be the fastest, I can at least try to be "interesting". He he. I don't know, though. Some of the people on this blog are pretty darn interesting AND fast. That's where I hope I'm going.

Christi, thanks for the support. I am so excited for you & your St. George adventure coming up soon!

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Happy hump-day.  Now it's downhill to the weekend!  32:33 for the 5K and it felt a little hard, for some reason.  Undoubtedly my body wanted to take advantage of not having a speedy training partner today.   A little discomfort in my left arch.  I probably need to get new shoes.

I took a different route today through a huge apartment complex.  The most notable thing that happened was that I passed a guy with a huge black wolf!  He had to step off the sidewalk and exert considerable energy to keep that thing from eating me.  I don't think I'll run that route again!  I prefer the lakes around my house, where I see the nice old guy and the huge orange fish every morning.  BTW did you see the moon this morning?  So big and golden!  Beautiful.


PM run with little ones.  1.37 miles.

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From Heber on Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 10:58:25

About the no-sugar, no flour thing: I did it once. In fact I went off fruit and juices and honey and anything else that has simple carbohydrates. My whacky chiropractor recommended it to get rid of yeast that she thought was in my intestine.

What I found was that it made me grumpy and I really craved the stuff I was missing. But it was possible and it may have helped. I learned to each more veggies and eggs and to snack on nuts.

The idea is that we eat way to much carbs these days and that it causes weight gain and possibly other bad things. Who knows?

From Kristina on Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 11:13:28

Hey Lybi did you know they are starting to build some new houses in the back of our subdivision...he he he

You know my mom is a little bit obsessed with the South Beach Diet which is designed to help you cut out "empty carbs" and only focus on the good carbs. It actually seems like one of the better diets out there. There is a book that lists foods to avoid.

From Christi on Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 11:39:25

The Lybster! Yeah, the moon was awesome today! Thanks for reminding me. The wolf encounter sounds scary, I'm a dog lover, but I still get nervous around strays when I'm running- but a wolf- that's crazy! So you live around lakes- cool. I wanna live on a lake...(do you think I'm being influenced by my recent Powell trip?) Good job going it alone without the partner today!

From James in Sunny AZ on Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 12:52:18

The moon was absolutely gorgeous this morning. Good thing you didn't try to run with Sparky - he might have gotten himself eaten by the wolf - that dog is fearless! Christi - our "lakes" are really small, man-made ponds with sidewalks around them, kept artificially blue . . . :D

From James in Sunny AZ on Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 12:53:05

Hey, I forgot - are you still going to register for that 5K this weekend?

From Michelle on Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 14:42:00

Lybi, you are doing awesome and really increasing your mileage! In addition to some memorable experinces! (Wolf?) That's a good one to put in the memory books. Only you would have an experience like that!!! Sounds like you may be doing a 5K this weekend? Good luck if you do, you'll smash your last time with the great times you have been having the last few weeks!

From Michelle on Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 14:52:28

By the way... aren't you getting out rather early these days?

From Sasha Pachev on Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 15:19:13

You should really back off on those 5 K runs. 10:30 pace is just about right, 10:00 is OK, anything much faster is probably too fast. If you feel the extra energy and have the extra time, at this point it should go into making the run longer as opposed to faster.

Regarding carbs - you need them to run or just live for that matter. As Lulu pointed out in another post, the trouble comes not from the calories, but from the package they come with. It is all about balance. Popular American foods tend to deliver carbs in the wrong mix, while natural foods tend to have the right mix of nutrients to go with the carbs.

From Lybi on Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 16:42:49

Heber!!! How fun to hear from you again. I've missed you. As of right now, I have nothing against carbs in general. I'm just doing a little experiment with no added sugar or white flour. Some chiropractors can get really weird on you, so you have to watch 'em! :)

Kristina there are so many houses out there by you that I would love. But since the weather has turned nice again, I'm temporarily feeling happy to be an Arizonian. May is a good time to try to persuade me to move, though. :)

Thanks Christi! Your trip made ME want to live by a real lake, too. Or at least go on a trip to one.

Michelle, I'm getting up earlier than I've been since high school seminary! I am stoked because I've never had the self-control to wake up this early with any kind of consistency.

Sasha, you know your advice is like a royal decree to me, but can I present my concerns about slowing down to 10:30? 3 things. It feels a little annoying to my feet at that speed, for some reason. It feels a lot smoother to me a little bit faster. Second I'm afraid of loosing my fabulous running partner Christine with pokiness. Possibly not a logical fear. Third, in the morning I only have about 30 minutes to run before James has to leave. The only way I could go farther is to run faster. Although, I plan on adding another mile per day in the evening (at 15:00 pace) with my little ones. How about an average--3 miles each morning at 9:30-10:00 and 1 at 15:00 each afternoon. What do you think?

From Sasha Pachev on Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 18:35:40

9:30 - 10:00 should be fine, 10:00 better than 9:30, but do not try to set records on that 5 K. No faster than 9:30 until you run 24:00 in a race. But try to sneak in extra miles during the day with a stroller and street clothes on, or even on the treadmill if it still works. Another idea - bring the kids to the track, have them play in the sandbox, and loop around in the meantime. If you run only 3 miles a day, and that is the cap, then the only path to improvement is to keep speeding up, the problem with speeding up without a base is that you start getting injured, and also ultimately there is no intensity that could possibly compensate for the lack of base.

From Brent on Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 20:53:23

Lybi, wow, great advice from Sasha, it is so hard to not fun faster when you got the fast feeling. Moon was bigger this morning, like it was close enough to reach. The wolf thing, scary, I always carry pepper spray. I have never used it on people, only on loose dogs that thought I was breakfast.

From Lybi on Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 21:17:23

Brent, I agree. This is great advice and I'm gonna do my best to comply. I'm all excited now.

From Mik'L on Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 00:11:33

Lybi- You really do have some crazy experiences. Who sees a wolf on a run in the suburbs? I didn't get out this morning so I missed the great moon...but I read all about it on Chad's blog. lol

BTW Sasha, as a former long jumper, I find it offensive that you called the long jump pit a sand box! ;)

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Nice and easy 5K with Christine in 31:50 (10:15 pace).   Very steady splits 10:15, 10:14, 10:19, and 1 minute for the .1.  We got to see the International Space Station glide across the sky at 5:40.  It looked like a star except it was a little bit oblong and it was moving pretty fast.  Kerry tipped us off, so James and I were both watching for it this morning. If any of you like astronomy, you should check out Kerry's blog.  He often has cool stuff on there about stars and other celestial sights.

Run. Blog. Improve. Repeat.  Cute, huh?  How appropriate.  I like it.

Later I ran my son to school, .63 of a mile

PM 2 miles with Holly nice & easy.  We talked about Jane Austin the whole time.


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From Heber on Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 14:08:00

So are you going to run a 5k soon? If so what time are you aiming for?

From Lybi on Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 14:41:34

I think I'm actually going to run a 5K this Sat. I would really like to break 26 min. Absolutely must be faster than 27:03. What about you? Running season! Any big races this year?

From Heber on Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 18:13:12

None scheduled. My pneumonia set me back a long ways. Just struggling back now. Won't be ready for races until Halloween.

If you are aiming for 26 or 27 have you done any mile repeats at 8:25 to 8:45? That's what will get you ready. Too late now of course but if you don't reach your goal or you experience any soreness afterward then try it next time. Goal pace repeats: live it, love it.

From Lybi on Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 21:12:26

What? I didn't even know you had pneumonia! It takes a while to recover from something like that. Were you hospitalized?

Mile repeats, hmmm. I did a few a few weeks ago. So soredom, here I come, I guess.

Mom said you ran a marathon recently...true?

From christi on Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 21:59:20

Lybi- I think you'll break 26 this Sat- GO FOR IT! Esp. if its cooled down there lately, you'll probably thrill yourself with your time compared to your last HOT 5k. I'm so impressed with how quickly you have improved your pace on the recent training runs!

From Heber on Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 10:39:14

Not hospitalized. Didn't know it was pneumonia until it had been going on for two weeks. Dr gave me antibiotics and methylprednisone and an inhaler like asmatics use. The prednisone really did the trick in stopping the coughing but the side effects are no good. Had trouble sleeping all that week.

From sarah on Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 14:14:07

Lybi...way to do the miles!!! I am also SUPER excited to see you at St. George. I didn't know Jacob even had a fever...he'd been acting pretty much normal and then BAM started in on the weird breathing..I actually thought about your little boy having the penny stuck in his throat and kind of wondered if he swallowed something...asthma attack...didn't know. I'll have my kids practice for you and we'll see if they can play something for you. Thanks!!

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3 miles with Christine.  1st 10:48.  2nd 10:11.  3rd 10:11.  See?  Nice and slow, just like Sasha wants (although I overdid it a little on that first one.   He he.)

I'm still torn about whether or not to run in the 5K tomorrow.  The issue is that James won't be able to come (which means I'll inevitably get lost in Phoenix on the way there; might be too tired to drive home; no cheering section yada yada yada). 

Hmmm.  If I get more than 5 people who leave comments telling me to go for it, I will.  There, it's out of my hands now.

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From Sasha Pachev on Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 17:32:23

I'll be the first one. If we lived in Phoenix or any big city for that matter I'd get Sarah a talking GPS so she would not get lost. If you have friends who have one, you could borrow it for one night. Or, bring your Garmin with you, before you do, have James teach you how to get your current GPS coordinates out of it (James - if you have not yet figured it out, you mark a waypoint, and then look at its details), then if you are lost, call James on the cell phone, give him your GPS coordinates and he will be able to navigate you out of your predicament. Guys really like to do it. One time I was consulting for a client, we had about 7 people in the room, one guy got a call from a family member asking how to get from point A to point B, and they all forgot what they were doing, got on Google Maps/Yahoo Maps/Mapquest and started looking up directions, with each periodically shouting "I found a better route!".

10:48 for a warm-up is just fine - I often run the first mile in 8:30 or slower. To put that in perspective, you would be putting in the same effort at 10:48 as I do at 8:30 if you could race a 5 K at 7:20 pace.

From James in Sunny AZ on Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 18:35:57

I say go for it as well. I wish I could be there, but the babysitting situation looks like it did not work out. Still, I am sure you will do just fine, and are definitely on track for a big PR. We can put together a route tonight, and you can take the cell phone with you, plus the Garmin. One way or another, we will get you to the race.

From Kerry on Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 18:49:40

Go for it, Lybi! There's nothing like a race to get the heart pumping and whether you exceed your expectations or fall short, you'll be a lot better for having made the effort. We'll be looking forward to your race report.

From Cody on Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 18:58:18

Oh, its PR time...Go for it!!

From Lyman on Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 19:11:44

And I would be number now you have to do it. I promise you won't regret it. Racing will give you that sense of accomplishment a motivation to continue to improve. Go have some fun!!!

From Lybi on Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 19:20:18

Well actually, if you read the fine print, I said "more than 5". No just kidding. Sasha counts for 2. And Cody counts for 1.5 because he is a just-passing-through fast guy. And Lyman counts for 1.5 because this is his first comment on my blog. And Kerry counts for 1.5 because he is a punk. But James only counts .5 because he is my hubby and he is biased. (Sorry sweetie!) we go...I'm gonna be sore this time on Sunday.

From Dustin on Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 19:38:54

I not really any of the above, but go for it and have fun.

From James in Sunny AZ on Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 19:42:05

Well now, Dustin officially makes 6, so now you're really stuck! Can't talk yourself out of this one now, can you?

From Lybi on Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 20:12:36

Big D! You get the most votes of all--2.5. 1.5 because you are a just-passing-through fast guy. An extra .5 because this is your first comment on my blog, and the rest on the strong suspicion that you are also a punk. Sure, you seem like a nice enough guy, but just look at who you hang around with! There is strong correlation between that St. George running club and punkdom.

From Kristina on Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 21:25:35

Lybi you don't need me to tell you to go for it since everyone else did, but I'm way excited for you. You are amazing and will do great. Even if you won't have a cheering section there, you have a huge virtual cheering section waiting to hear how you did. Good Luck!

From Brent on Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 23:28:56

Be brave, be strong, do not give in to the pain, the PR is not important, the shear exhastion of the great effort will be your reward. No luck needed, you are ready.

B of BS Rools out

From James on Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 23:32:33

Just do it! You will have fun and be glad that you ran.

From Lybi on Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 08:21:18

Thanks for the encouragement, Kristina, Brent & James! Boy, now I'm glad I checked the blog right before leaving for the race. I'm stoked.

From Christi on Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 12:58:10

Ah man, I'm too late to tell you to go for it- its already Sat. am! I hope you have just finished the 5k! Can't wait to read the race report! I'm sure you ROCKED!

From Christi on Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 13:06:23

Just read your comment about my toes- yeah its a bugger. I think the deal is that the end of my toes had gotten kinda calloused, then the callouses (sp?) went away when I was swimming for a week in powell w/ no running. Thankfully they don't hurt today, so maybe a week of running broke them back in? Anyhow Steve helped me pick out my last 2 pairs of shoes, I just have feet issues I guess! Stinks! Hey- when do you get in town this next week? Can't wait to see you!

From Lybi on Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 13:35:44

Christi, we are coming in Friday afternoon. I am so excited to meet you in person! James wants to drive the course, then we might run, shower, go early to help set up for the party and stuff. Not exactly sure.

From James in Sunny AZ on Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 15:27:40

Yeah, there's that other matter of having to pick up my race number as well . . . plus I want to take a look at the stuff at the expo. Last time I was there, they had gloves on sale for a buck each, plus lots of other cool stuff. We're going to leave here early in the morning, and it is about a 7 hour drive to St. George. Looking forward to seeing everyone at the party!

Race: Moon Valley Grasshopper Bridge 5K (3.15 Miles) 00:26:31, Place in age division: 6
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Ahhhhh.  So this is how it feels to run a race without heat exhaustion.  MUCH better. 

1st mile on residential roads with lots of 90 degree turns.  8:12

2nd mile on residential roads--most of it one long stretch.  8:22

3rd mile with a little uphill and a psych-out ending (you head towards the finish line and get all excited, but you have to pass it and do another loop and come back).  Partial road, partial grass. 8:53

last .15 in 1:05 (7:27 pace)

This is the first  race I've run this year that I haven't had to lay down within 3 minutes of finishing.  In fact, I kept my feet under me the whole time.   I waited around for about an hour to get the results, and met a lot of fun people.  A lot of really good runners on this course!  Probably because it was a certified course--and very well organized, imo--chip timing and everything.  Several people were trying for the OTQ time in both men's and women's divisions.  A couple of Kenyans showed up to win the race by quite a bit.  I went and congratulated them--they were both very nice.

I felt really good this whole race.  Obviously I was glad when it was over, but I had a much better mental attitude this race.  No fear, just excitement.   I had really wanted to push the second mile, because it is usually my downfall, and I think I succeeded.   I give myself a silver medal for effort with the 26:31.  Gold would've been 25:59.  Bronze 26:59.  Post high school PR by 31 seconds.  : )

I set a new Lybi record by NOT getting lost in Phoenix, despite the city's best attempts to derail me with 2 closed freeways along my route.  Dah!  How'd they know I was coming? 

Weekly mileage record at 24 and change.  Yea!

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From Sasha Pachev on Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 14:29:19

Congratulations on a PR!

From christi on Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 14:33:44

Have you ever considered journalism as a PT job? You would make a great column writer! Great job on the race today!!!! Hope you are patting yourself on the back! I'm gonna show my ignorance here- what is a OTQ time?

From Lybi on Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 14:51:13

Christi--OTQ = Olympic Trials Qualifier.

In college my Intensive Writing teacher encouraged me to pursue writing. Maybe someday...

From James the hubby on Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 15:15:37

Congratulations, sweetheart! You did a great job. The only bad thing about this race was that I wasn't able to be there with you. Way to PR, your times will continue to drop as your fitness and confidence in yourself continue to improve.

From Tom on Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 15:26:44

Great race Lybi! That HS record is getting withing shooting distance!

From Shauna on Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 15:30:42

Excellent!!! Isn't running well in a race such a good feeling? I live somewhat near Moon Valley and saw the very cool posters advertising the race. I bet you got a great t-shirt! Your consistency in your daily runs has been impressive-a job well done. I agree on the writing, by the way!

Good job on navigating Phoenix!

From Dave Holt on Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 17:01:44

I guess it was worth racing. Good job!

From Dave Holt on Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 17:05:27

I've decided to take back my congratulations based upon your assumption that St. George runners are punks! Although I my resemble that remark, I also am quite displeased at it. ;)

And you even get the pleasure of being my first emoticon recipient ever! I may never do it again as it wasn't as fun as I had hoped.

From Brent on Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 17:18:14

Confidence is contagious, great, great and super great, runner's high at the highest. Commando points - 100 for a PR and no whining, no self-doubt, being strong.

From Dustin on Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 17:23:17

Congrats on doing the race and running well, also for not getting lost in Phoenix my sister lives in Gilbert so I understand the traffic thing. Don't mind Dave, I just told him this morning on our run that you called us St. George Running guys a bunch of punks! I know we are a rough bunch, especially the wildbull. Actually, I'm a nice guy married, 3 kids, and I even took piano lessons for 5 years, so that should count for something. Anyway, good luck to you and your husband. You guys are both lucky you can support and encourage each in your training.

From crumpyb1 on Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 17:25:52

Congratulations on a wonderful race and not getting lost and a record mileage week!

Like Christi, I think you are a great writer, too. If you wanted to pursue writing, what would you write? Columns, novels, hallmark cards--just kidding. But, I am curious.

From Cody on Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 18:14:27

Congratulations! Next time you are thinking about getting out of racing you had better up the number of comments required by 10x's as you are quickly becoming the most popular blogger. So much support! You better feel good about that.

Look at how far you have come already in your short stint of racing. Another PR!

From Kerry on Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 20:28:37

Great race, Lybi! That's what it's all about -- turning self-doubts and fears into excitement about facing a challenge.

From Michelle on Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 22:31:59

So I missed the whole drama of the race but it sounds like it all turned out great. Good job on the race!!! So it sounds like you are going to be getting into town in good time friday. I'm not sure what time we'll be getting there or who is coming with me, but ut sounds like I'd like to stop by the expo if they have some good deals. I'm guessing that anyone can buy the stuff there? Looking forward to meeting everyone, are we all going to get together and do a run or is everyones time going to be a little crunched getting to the party and pre-race hype in? Either way it should be a good time!

From Mik'L on Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 23:31:46

Good job Lybi! You are smokin on these races! I won't be able to keep up if we go for a run next weekend. I guess we need to try and plan that. When is everyone getting there/leaving?

From Lybi on Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 23:45:29

Michelle: The expo is great, we're gonna have to squeeze that in somehow. BTW I thought of you in the race. There was a girl right behind me as I was coming in named Michelle, and all her friends were yelling "get her Michelle!" It was sad to be the bad guy, but I remembered your comment about understanding the race mentality and I beat her soundly. Anybody who wants to beat me right at the end has to be willing to bleed. So thanks.

Kerry: Thanks! You are right, as always.

Cody: Thanks, Headband Man! I don't think it'll take much encouragement to get me to run the next one. This one was so great! But it WILL take much persuasion to get me to try longer races, I've decided. Possibly even a bribe. Possibly even overt coercion!

Adrianne: Thanks! My secret dream is to write music with lyrics. Don't tell anyone. He he.

Dustin, you are hitting below the belt! You know I can't say anything bad about a guy who runs AND plays piano! You're off the punk list.

Brent: 100 pts! I thought you would take off a few for the lack of cartwheels at the end. The finish shoot was really narrow. Plus Michelle would've been kicked in the face...that's low even for me.

Dave: Perhaps you will feel better about being a punk if you consider that you are a leader of the punks--like a king, almost. I know I feel better about it because I know you are a high school teacher, and there is no better purgatory for punks than teaching young punks all day. (He he he!) Thanks for the comments.

Shauna: We are going to have to get together sometime. I need someone to help me get my first real long run under my belt some time in the next few months!

Tom: thanks! I hope so. At 30 seconds per month, I'll be there by the 1 year anniversary of starting to run again. Yikes! I better step it up.

From Kristina on Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 23:48:50

Great job Lybi! The more I read your blog, the more I get excited to keep running and to get in better shape. Your race results make me excited to run a race in the future. I hope you keep getting better and better. I'm sure you will because you are awesome.

And extra congratulations for not getting lost. I got lost IN the Belen Well's Fargo parking lot yesterday. I drove around and around trying to get out and I was so confused. So you can only imagine how I would do driving in Phoenix. :)

From Jon on Sun, Sep 30, 2007 at 00:02:33

Nice race! The hard work pays off.

From Clay on Sun, Sep 30, 2007 at 00:48:09

Nice job Lybi, you are really kicking some butt... Congrats on the PR too.

From Michael on Sun, Sep 30, 2007 at 20:50:11

Way to go Lybi - good time and sounds like youre really improving great

From Dave Holt on Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 11:31:35

A king of the punks ... hmmmmm... I kind of like the sound of that!

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Well, I am overwhelmed by all the support I got for my race on Saturday.  Thanks, guys! 

I was a little sore this morning from the race--mostly in my quads and my obliques.  Hopefully I will be able to keep up with Christine tomorrow!   32:30 for a 5K with splits of 10:33, 10:44, 10:19, and :58.  Rather poky, but it was a pretty good effort for me.

So about my experiment last week--going without sucrose and white flour...  I was able to survive fairly well.  Every once in a while I would end up skipping a snack just because I couldn't find anything to eat, but for the most part, I felt fine and not really deprived or anything.  (Thank goodness I could still eat cheese--my one dietary consolation!) I was successful on all the days except Saturday at sticking to the food plan.  Saturday I drank a whole bottle of gatorade after the race, then succumbed to the temptation of pizza later that day.   I'm still not sure if I will be able to do this permanently, but I am going to try another week of it.   The scale showed a 4 pound difference after one week(!) although I'm sure a lot of it is just a difference in water retention.


1.2 miles later with the double jogging stroller. 

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From christi on Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 09:55:09

Call me Friday, I'm flexable on what time I do expo. Jim is off work that day so I think he can play daddy day care so I can be free. Are you bringing your cute boys to SG?

From christi on Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 10:04:38

"flexible" duh

From Kristina on Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 16:44:55

yea for cheese. I was just telling Seth that I eat a lot of string cheese throughout the day. Every time I get hungry I think, hmmm, I could eat cookies or ramen noodles. I think I'll eat string cheese again.

Anyway, way to go on the eating healthy thing. Eating unhealthy is one of my greatest weaknesses that I am trying to change, though I'm not sure I could ever go cold turkey on the sugar and white flour :)

From Maria on Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 18:24:34

Lybi!! I'm so late, but congratulations on your awesome race!! Way to go, girl! These days I feel like I'm constantly catching up on everyone's blogs and other things in life, and I'm always behind.

I think my very first 5K race was 26:something in '97, and 2 years later I was running 21:30. You're doing great, and you only have great times ahead of you.

From Amanda on Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 20:20:35

Hello! I saw on Shauna's blog that you were trying to say hello to me, but my profile was blank. Thanks for thinking of me! I am finally up and pun intended.

Great job on your race!

From sarah on Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 22:21:53

I don't know what time we are getting into St. George. We all need to exchange cell phone numbers so we can find each other once we get there...Ours is 372-0470. For those that want to get in touch maybe I'll have Sasha post an announcement and we'll try to do a blog wide exchange....We are so used to being connected we might go in major withdrawl.....

From Lybi on Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 22:45:43

No kidding, Sarah. I'm going to be at the blog party and be struggling with the urge to check the blog. Ha ha.

James' cell is (480)648-6623.

From Shauna on Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 22:48:20

Well, I'm just going to have to do St. George next year so I can meet everyone and join the party!!

From Lybi on Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 22:57:54

Well, we do live in the same Megalopolis...

I say you come to St. George just for the party...and, of course, the cheering ourselves hoarse at the finish.

From sarah on Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 00:33:34

I've have some advice from a self proclaimed nutrionist...meaning me...When we tried going cold turkey on a diet it did make me skinny but I was also unhappy. My unfortunatley painfully earned wisdom is to try and think about foods you would LIKE to eat that are also in your chosen diet parameters. Then go shopping and have those foods available for cooking or simply snacking on. I snack mostly on fresh fruit but there are lots of snack type foods at the health food store that aren't much more expensive than the white flour alternatives. Happy snacking....remember the word happy.

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5K with Christine.  Splits of 10:19, 9:57, 10:04, and :52.  I slowed us down on the last mile with a side stitch.  Probably because Christine was making me laugh.  Fun times. 

What a difference an hour of sleep makes!  This past week I've been going to bed around 9:30 and waking up feeling really refreshed and ready to go.  Then last night I just went to bed at 10:30.   This morning was death!  How ridiculous.  I still got 7 hours, and I never used to even get that much.  But I think I'm a little more in tune with my body, and 7 hours just does not feel good.


2 more miles with Holly in the PM.

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From Kristin on Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 09:51:04

It's true! Seth and I went to bed 30 minutes late last night and I woke up feeling awful this morning! We've decided we need to start getting ready for bed 20 or so minutes before we want to be in bed. It doesn't hurt to be in bed early either that way you can actually fall asleep by your bedtime instead of waiting another 15-30 minutes just to fall asleep.

From Shauna on Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 11:32:16

I hear you! I've been getting 8+ hours of sleep lately, and now 7 hours feels awful!

From Clay on Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 11:35:04

I know your pain! We have 5 kids ranging from 14 to 9 and some nights it is just impossible. That extra hour does make a difference, and know that Seinfeld comes on at 10 around here I am to bed at 10:30 which is a record for me and my wife.

From christi on Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 11:59:53

ok- i'm going to let you'll be my role models. 10:30 is early for me, but i know i should make it 10pm. I usually get up around 5, so I hardly ever get 7 hrs, usually closer to 6. there's just so much i like to do after the kids are in bed- i love my "me" time!

From Michelle on Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 12:14:07

That sleep sounds so good! I'm going to have to live vicariously through you on that one. After the time changes and it gets dark much sooner I start getting a little more, but for now.....

Well I told Christi that I'm headed to the expo when I get to town on Friday and then depending on what time I get there I'm not sure. But here is the cell and let me know what your up to when you get to town. I'm thinking around 1:00 -1:30 ish getting to town. I think it will be just me and the Callzee so I'm feeling a little silly coming to the party without my husband but oh well we'll survive. For now Callzee is excitted to come but when she realizes that it is mostly adults she may change her mind.

From Lybi on Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 13:25:10

You guys are funny. Ya, it'd be nice if I could hire someone to sleep FOR me, so I could do other stuff! Not getting enough sleep has been my downfall since high school. But I'm happy to say that I AM finally making progress...

10:30 used to be my goal, and I could almost never even reach it, but I'm getting better at it since I started waking up at 5:30. And this past week 9:00-9:30 has been my number one goal because I want to help James get a little more rest for SGM. At this point, I think sleeping a lot is the only thing that will make a difference for him.

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You guys are not going to believe it!  This morning is was feeling a little bit frisky.  Well, that's not quite true...more like I was feeling quite grumpy when I got up.  So I decided to do just one mile at 5K pace in the middle of my run.  My legs really liked the feel of the tempo mile.  Very smooth.  I didn't really start feeling the pace until about a third of a mile in.  Anyway, at the end of the mile I was hoping to see 8:15 or below.  (I was a little skeptical because I was afraid the lack of "race day magic" would slow me down.)  Anyway, it was 7:46!!!  That is the first time I've run below 8:00 since I was 17 years old!!!   I'm so more grumps today! Then I finished the rest of the 5K nice and slow with Sparky.

A funny thing about running that tempo mile...I reminded myself of this guy at the race on Saturday.  He was breathing REALLY hard and letting his air out with a loud "CHoooooo  CHoooooo" like a train or something.  I had a really hard time not turning around and telling him to Be Quiet!  ...tryin' to concentrate here.  But I guessed that if he was pushing that hard, he was going to drop behind soon, and he did.   But today I probably could've woke up the neighbors with my breathing...but at least I wasn't chewing on the air and sending spit flying everywhere with each breath.

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From Clay on Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 10:19:43

Congrats on the tempo mile Lybi, isn't that a great feeling... My friends can not figure out why I run and if they could only feel that feeling just once they would be hooked for life. Good job and keep up the awesome work!

From Kristina on Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 10:28:52

Wow Lybi! I'm really impressed! Great Job!

And I like the Choo Choo story. I can picture someone running like that. His cheeks were probably getting all puffy and then hollow. haha. Anyway, that was my laugh for the day. Thanks.

From Michael on Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 10:47:03

Great job Lybi, if we ever meet in a 5k with your improvement Im betting on you. Maybe you should run Saint George for fun (just kidding) - have a great time there

From Tom on Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 11:02:15

Regarding the Choo Choo and various sounds that runners make.....while running various marathons over the years it's been interesting, especially during the last few miles, to hear/see the variety of strange things runners do when they're struggling to try to overcome the 'bonk' factor. I've seen runners running with their eyes closed (OK so I've done this myself on occasion), heard them muttering all kinds of bizarre mantras (i.e. "I am fast, I am strong, I am wonderful..." or in one case I was with a guy who was mostly quiet but every so often would shout "ONE!!" and then go back to quiet for another 20 seconds or so). Some people will count ("1,2,3..." - I've actually tried this on a few occasions of pain, it maybe even helped for about a minute). One guy I was with for a while distracted himself by singing at the top of his lungs. He was NOT a good singer and I was pretty dang happy (is that cruel of me?) when he finally crashed and burned and started walking and I could leave him and his voice behind. Then there are people that stick with good ol'fashioned moaning and groaning and other various sounds of agony. Some of the sounds are down right scary if not borderline obscene. I guess to each their own. I confess there have been times when I've hit the wall where I would have tried ANYTHING to make the pain go away.

From Lulu on Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 11:12:57

My story: At mile 23+ of a marathon I heard someone near me singing all kinds of stupid songs. After tolerating several (that I don't remember) and slowing down and speeding up to get away from them, I took a good hard look at the person singing the Oscar Meyer Weiner song (over and over). They had no number and looked awefully fresh! I realized they were a bandit "running someone in." I thought, this is MY marathon so... When they started the next song, the Toy's R Us song, I said "Will you please shut up?!?!?" I really meant to ask them to be quiet, but it came out another as shut up. At least I said please...

Yeah, and they shut up immediately.

From Lybi on Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 11:17:25

Tom you made me laugh out loud! That is too funny. Especially the guy who shouts "One!" at random intervals and the singer. Ho boy!

Michael--I saw a guy at the race who looked a lot like your picture. He passed me at 1.5 miles and I was thinking "Yup, that's about where Michael would pass me. Bye, Michael."

Kristina and Clay--thanks for noticing. I am all excited, and it's really fun to get feedback.

From Tom on Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 11:19:53

Lulu - so YOU were the one who told me to shut up!! OK just kidding, I wasn't the bandit and I applaud your efforts in shutting the guy up. Among my running buddies we have a rule that anything seemingly rude, angry or obnoxious said after mile 20 of a marathon doesn't really count and all is forgiven in this case. Kind of like the stuff my wife says during labor.

From laura on Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 11:24:09

Wow! I'm sick for a week and out of town for 4 days and look at you!!!! Absolutely great job on your race, chiquita!!!! I'm so happy for you. It took me forever to read all your comments - you're quite the popular girl. Who can blame them, though. I haven't even gone running yet today and I've already read your race report and most of this week and last week. ha! I kept wanting to leave something in St. George this weekend just so you and James could find it - but I couldn't think of what or where. So . . just know that I was there a week before you and wishing you well! lol

From Lybi on Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 11:25:29

HA hahahahahahha! I am getting such a kick out of you guys--laughing out loud and everything. Lulu, you are one spunky chica, and I applaud you! Can't be expected to listen to commercials on mile 23. I'm sure I would've done the same thing (without the please maybe!)

From Heber on Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 11:30:57

Glad you liked the tempo mile! I told you you would!

From lulu on Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 11:31:43

Tom, I have that rule too. We call it Runner's Privilege. It also extends to "what is talked about on the run cannot be repeated by the listeners." I've heard some great stories running with judges and lawyers. I just can't tell you about them...

From Shauna on Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 11:33:45

Excellent job on the tempo run!! you are doing great!

When I'm doing my long runs in marathon training, I sing (TO MYSELF) "I Know an Old Lady who Swallowed a Fly." Remember that song? I had forgotten it until marathon training! Also, 99 Bottles of Beer (or pop, if you prefer) on the Wall, but that one is kinda boring.

From lulu on Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 11:42:10


Training runs are to totally different animal. Sasha sings Bingo, I sing "blown away" with Springsteen's "My Oklahoma Home" and to other songs on my Ipod. I'll have to remember the Lady who swallowed the fly. I sing it to my daughter periodically so I'll sing it on a training run with her in the stroller! Love it!

From Sasha Pachev on Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 17:06:10

Lybi - congratulations on going sub-8:00!

From Michelle on Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 17:57:59

Lybi- that's just plain AMAZING!!! I'm so excitted for you! I would just once like to see how that feels like!

From Christi on Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 18:05:14

Great tempo run! I need more of those. Loved reading everyone's stories about funny sounds runners make. At Peach Days recently I had to run to speed up and crank the IPOD to get away from an elderly guy who was making a horrible groaning sound everytime he'd breath out- thought he might kill over- but I did see him smiling at the finish. I still hear that sound in my nightmares!

From Brent on Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 18:31:47

Lybi, congrads on the tempo mile. the only way to run fast is to run fast. Da!

I think that BQ may be closer than you think with the progress you are making.

Non-runners just do not realize how difficult it is to run an 8 minute mile, tough barrier to break. One question, you may have forgotten, have you been cashing in your commando points for runner high moments? If not, you have a bank full of points to use.

From Sasha Pachev on Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 19:08:51

Speaking of which, at least 50% of the barrier to running a marathon at a given pace is in not being able to run even one mile at that pace. To BQ, you need 8:25 per mile, so speed-wise you already have a decent buffer. My predictor says if you get your 5 K down to 22:48 (7:20 pace), and train at 60 miles a week (if you train at 60 miles a week, your 5 K will come down quite a bit from your current time), you'll qualify.

From Sasha Pachev on Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 19:09:08

Speaking of which, at least 50% of the barrier to running a marathon at a given pace is in not being able to run even one mile at that pace. To BQ, you need 8:25 per mile, so speed-wise you already have a decent buffer. My predictor says if you get your 5 K down to 22:48 (7:20 pace), and train at 60 miles a week (if you train at 60 miles a week, your 5 K will come down quite a bit from your current time), you'll qualify.

From Sasha Pachev on Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 19:11:31

Ok, this is funny. I just coded up a trap for the duplicate comment, and decided to test it right here. But I forgot to copy it from my development system to the production server. So the test failed, that is why there are two identical comments. Second time around it passed, I got a Duplicate comment error as I was supposed to.

From Lybi on Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 20:28:56

Thank you so much everyone, for the encouragement and for making me giggle all day. What a great thread--my favorite ever!

From Lulu on Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 21:22:54

BTW, great job on the tempo run. It's nice to change up the pace some! Keep it up. The reason why you have such great threads is because you have great posts that get people chatting!

From crumpyb1 on Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 22:37:32

Wow! I think I added seventeen years to my life. Lybi, Tom, and Lulu thanks! It felt great to laugh. I read your stories out loud to my husband. He got a kick out of them, too.

Congratulations, Lybi, on a sub-8 mile!

From Shae Check on Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 20:17:53

Being the only person who actually knew you when you were 17, I have to say "Way to go, Idaho!" No, we aren't from Idaho, but nothing rhymes with New Mexico. Speaking of spit flying everywhere, do you remember the time you fell asleep on my shoulder and drooled on me? I probably could run with you at any time (other than you are faster than me now) and not be bothered if you did start chewing the air the spitting. Well done on improving!

From Lybi on Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 20:33:39

Shaaaaaaaaaaaaaeeeeee! I'm going to take the 5th on whether or not I ever actually ACCIDENTALLY drooled on you. Your word against mine, but I do recall you gluing an Oreo to my forehead in a fit of spontaneity. Plus there was the time you practically FORCED me to go through that drive-through backwards and nearly crash into everything.

This is Shae, my long time best friend who was the victim (if not the accomplice) of most of my mild acts of vandalism growing up.

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2.2  just below 10:00 pace with Christine and then she had to go. (I didn't exactly complain that it was shorter, though, I was GLAD to stop today.)   My tummy was complaining about the half a bucket of movie theatre popcorn I ate last night.  *Blush*  It's funny, greasy popcorn doesn't usually bother me.   But since I've been eating really well these last couple weeks (from a nutritional standpoint, anyway) I've noticed my tummy is starting to have more of an opinion about the less healthy stuff.  Jeez, give it an inch and it takes a mile!

1.5 With my boys--pushing the jogging stroller.

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From Shauna on Thu, Oct 04, 2007 at 12:45:27

I LOVE movie popcorn! I used to eat it more often, but it doesn't agree with me anymore either. What movie did you see?

From Tom on Thu, Oct 04, 2007 at 12:52:16

I'm glad to hear that I'm not the only one to experience new-found stomach discomfort after going to the more Sasha-like diet when trying to go back and eat the old bad stuff. Even with ice-cream my favorite of all I can't seem to put away near as much as I used to before starting to feel kind of yuck. It actually makes me a little sad in some ways.

From Shauna on Thu, Oct 04, 2007 at 12:59:21

You know what I'm really sad about not being able to eat as much? In-n-out Burger! I love that place-it's the only red meat I eat! But it does make me feel sick now if I eat a burger and fries there.

From Michelle on Thu, Oct 04, 2007 at 13:50:34

Well I've only been at it a few days and most of the blog stuff has been encouraging but I'm a little nervous...I love all of that stuff, should I continue?

Lybi I'm good for four or five, we can just run fast. I definatley want to shower before too, but I'm not as fast as you so don't get any speedy ideas!

From Michelle on Thu, Oct 04, 2007 at 15:51:43

Hey Lybi do you make that rice yourself or buy it, if so how?

From Lybi on Thu, Oct 04, 2007 at 16:03:16

Michelle--I have a cooking slave make it for me...Ok ok, I'll admit it, James is the cook at our house. But just make up a large batch of whatever you have for dinner (whole wheat spaghett, fried rice, soup, Pasta Salad or whatever else you can think of) and then keep it around for lunches and stuff. Good luck! BTW let's not run fast! I want to have energy to cheer like crazy. Be warned, I was voted "most enthusiastic" in high school. :)

Shauna--I saw the first "Mr. Bean" movie with Holly. She is trying to convert me to Mr. Beanism. You have to be in the right mood for old Beanie, but I was yesterday and I laughed a lot, which is better than any food, I think.

Tom--You just need to find a healthy indulgence--something you like a lot that is still good for you. And then let me know what the heck it is so I can have some!

From Michelle on Thu, Oct 04, 2007 at 18:45:38

Oh yes I remeber how lucky you are! Well when HE makes fried rice does HE use white or brown. I have a friend who avoids sugar/white flour and she stays away from white rice too.

"most enthusiastic" Gosh with a cheerleader like that maybe I should have ran the SGM!!! You may have been able to pull even me through! (He,He) Looking forward to it! :) :)

From Lybi on Thu, Oct 04, 2007 at 20:28:09

Brown rice is DISGUSTING! I won't touch it.

From Lybi's Mom on Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 09:46:11

I ran Sam to school yesterday, pushing the stroller with the 2 boys in it. It doesn't steer very good so I can see how it will develop muscles in the arms and shoulders. I kept having to ask Sam if we could walk for a little bit. He's really fast, and fit. This was my first time to run since I still walk with a limp. Today my left thigh is sore, not my right, which seems strange since my sore foot is the right one. Maybe I push off more with my left, which I guess would make sense. I also have sore shoulders. BTW Brown rice is great. Put a little wild rice and quinoa in with it, some bouillion, onions and celery, butter if you are not on a low fat diet, and you will love it!

From Lybi on Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 19:14:45

Lybi, thanks, I could here you cheering, a spock thing. It was so nice meeting you and James. I hope it happens again next year. If there was ever a way to get the high of runner's high, read the blog enties today. They are so awesome.

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Driving to St. George.  A little bit of cross-training?  I did the rock wall at the expo with Callzee.  She is a brave little chica.  It scared the heck out of me, but I did it.

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Early morning run with Michelle and Mik'l.  This was one of the highlights of the whole St. George experience for me.  They are so fun to talk to, and the pace was just right.  Made me wish we could run together more often. 

The first half was all gradual uphill, which I was not used to, but then when we came back down, I felt like I was flying.  Nice. 

It was so amazing to watch the marathon and see all the amazing PRs!  I had never really understood how exceptional the runners on the blog are!  Almost everybody who came in within 20-30 minutes of the winner was a blogger or a good friend of a blogger I met a the dinner (like Brett).  I was really proud of James for taking 43 minutes off his time after only about 6 months of base-building.

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From Cody on Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 11:00:14

It was great to meet you. Too bad I didn't get to harass or badger you. I usually enjoy doing things like that. I was more worried about stuffing my face. Oh well..

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30:06 for a morning 5K with Christ ine.  Temp was perfect at a crisp 57.  I'm on my own for the rest of the week because she's going out of town.

So I intended to write up a huge Blogger Pasta Dinner Party report and talk a lot about the marathon, but I am getting overwhelmed, so I'll just sum it up:


Meet green shorts Jon first, and his cute and very tiny wife. 

Michelle and Callzee are the ones I got to spend the most time with.  Michelle is just as sweet in person as she is on the blog, and I really had fun getting to know her.  Callzee is a talented little ru nner with a big dimple when she smiles. 

You know who I really enjoyed talking to at the party?  Ruthio.  That girl is a blast.  I thought I would be shy to meet the super speedster, but she is so fun and just really good at setting people at ease.

I also really enjoyed talking to Heather--Chad's wife.  She has a natural grace--kind of sophisticated, but without any hint of snobbery.  Very down to earth.  I thought it was really cool that she was a writer.  Everybody needs to read her articles about health in the paper--the Salt Lake Tribune, I think?

Short list of people I met briefly:

Christi--she gets the award for being much prettier in real life than her blog picture.

Brent and Silvia (they look way too young for their reported age groups, btw--someone ought to check their birth certificates!).

Paul and his sweet wife Stacy.  Both of these guys were relatively quiet (at least not boisterous) and easy to approach.  Very down to earth.  From his blog, I half expected to see Paul burst into the Packers fight song at some point.  Maybe next year, eh?  Congratulations Paul!

Ashman, J-Free (tall!)

JTSHAD (Jef f)--OK he is really nice--I have been afraid of commenting on his blog because he has a rather intimidating picture, but he's is a GREAT guy. 

Oops gotta go.  Time to take poor little Sparky to the vet for his snip-snip.  Stay tuned for reports on Clyde & Mik'L, Sasha & Sarah, Izzy & Zoey etc.  To be continued... 

Geez, I've redone this entry 2 times and lost it both times.  It must be a sign!  I'm done describing bloggers.  Let me just average it out.  The average fastrunningblogger is skinny, nice, social and STINKIN' fast!!!

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From Christi on Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 13:28:54

Poor Sparky! Actually males bounce back pretty quick. I got my puppy snipped pretty young while he was still super hyper and I thought I'd get a day or two of calm out of it- not so! He bounced right back- that's good though right...? Anyway Lybi- my time w/ you was much too short Fri. night. Sorry we left so early. Since I had 3 non- bloggers in tow I felt guilty that they were bored. I envy your Sat. morning with Michelle, Callzee & Mik'l too! I can't wait to get together again at the next race and hang out more. Love my socks-so thoughtful- thank you!!

From sarah on Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 13:51:52

I agree with many of your impressions...Paul and Stacey are very modest and down to earth people...strong in their faith and super inspiring couple...Sasha and I have known them for years actually and they are probably not going to break into song at the next party but Sasha might..maybe I won't come...hmmmm

From Mik'L on Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 14:39:21

I'm a little nervous for my assessment! It was so much fun to meet you and run together. You are so cute! Thank you so much for the birthday shouldn't have! But thanks nonetheless!

From Bethany Draper on Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 17:42:32

It was nice to meet you in person, finally. Only wish there had been more time and less of my kids ;) (love em as I do). Cody described you perfectly as the FRB cheerleader. You are so sweet and optimistic cheering everyone on.

From Michelle on Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 00:33:15

Hope sparky is doing well. Looks like a great run today, keep up the good work!

From brent on Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 11:21:20

Lybi, the comment by your mother on Sasha's blog was special. Take care, run fast and blog like crazy.

From Mik'L on Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 12:27:33

That bad, huh? Maybe Sasha is removing the bad words you are using to describe me and Clyde ;) But I really did want to hear about Izzy and Zoe...

From jtshad on Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 14:47:20

I look intimidating? Dang, that's the first time I heard that one. That's my "dang I am in pain-face" as I try to make up time on Clyde at the Teton Dam Marathon...guess it's time to change my pic.

It was great meeting you and James as well. You should be very proud of his accomplishment...keep up your great training as well. Sounds like you have a good plan with the morning/afternoon stroller runs.

From Lybi on Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 16:36:10

You guys made me laugh again! I love this blog. Yes, Sarah, I think Sasha might have broken into song if Clyde hadn't wisely kicked us out at 8 pm. That doesn't mean you can skip the next one though! Oh and I am SO sorry I didn't get to give hear your kids on the piano. Hope they weren't disappointed! I had no clue we were going to be so pressed for time this trip.

Christi--it was great to meet you, although all too short. I'll see you again, though, so it's okay.

Mik'L let me just say what I thought about you. Let's see, that you wore the mantle of "hostess" lightly and seemed very relaxed for someone throwing a party for 60 people!...that you were young and had longer, straighter hair than I had pictured you with...hmmm, that you are so cute and SWEET and what a pity we don't live closer together so we could run more often! Oh and Izzy and Zoey are cute little fluff-balls who got a lot of exercise that night wisely evading affectionate toddlers. And the little one--(Izzy?) she could fit in one hand!

Bethany thanks so much! I enjoyed meeting you two as well. Wow, I feel important to get comments even from people who aren't addicted to the blog (yet). :)

Brent--very astute. My Mom really is special.

Jeff don't change your picture--it's classic! It looks like you are thinking "no one will beat me and live to tell the tale! I'll jab him with my Vulcan poke and take him down!" He he he.

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3.5 all by my lonesome self this morning.  Christine is in Mexico and poor little Sparky is recovering from having the zippity taken out of his doo-dah. 

1.2 with the double jogging stroller to take my oldest son to school.  We are very lucky to only be .63 miles away from the school.  We've had amazing results with running him to school...let me explain....

At my son's school they have a little behavioral system based on lights.  All the kids start out with green lights and if they misbehave during the day they have to change their light to yellow, and then red if it happens again.  The amazing thing is that my little first grader has never had to change his light to red on the days that I run him to school.   But in the last 3 weeks or so, he has had to turn his light to red every single time I DID NOT run him to school.  The complaint?  He won't sit still in his chair.  So I guess I'm really stuck running him!  This is good, and I should have no problem having at least 4.3 miles on the odometer every weekday from now on.


Oh yeah, one other thing.  Don't you think that Bethany (Cody's wife) should start her own blog?  Leave comments for her on Cody's blog.  From meeting her at the party, she was extremely nice and, I think, open to the possibility of training.   She's already commenting on the blog, and that's half the battle right there.   I don't mean to pressure you Bethany  (of course I do!) but it IS much more fun to be married to a compulsive runner if you are running too.  Just start really little--10 min. of walking and jogging combo.  Plus we need more female runners, and, unfortunately, you have made a good impression on me, so now I want to be able to comment on YOUR blog.

1.3 later that night with Holly--only out of loyalty for Holly bc I was tired!  She also bribed me by helping me clean.  What a sweetie!

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From sarah on Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 12:26:37

This is going to make you laugh but I'm so excited to be the first to post on your blog..I know you don't get a million comments every day but it seems like whenever I check there are a million and I get scared off...Have a happy day...I think we should also get Slyvia to join...I almost had her hooked when I told her how fun it is to check your e-mail and actually have something happy there waiting for you.

From laura on Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 15:30:06

Hahahahaha. Poor little Sparky!! That's really amazing about Samuel running to school. What a great solution you've found! Great running, by the way.

From Bethany on Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 16:21:53

Cody's picked up the pressure too. Cody even offered to babysit (imagine!) if I wanted to go for a run. I think I could even get him to throw in the Garmin. Hmmm....

From Bethany on Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 16:22:51

PS thanks for the nice appraisal. Always feels good!

From Cody on Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 16:54:00

Beth is more likely to talk about her latest book (she is as big of a book nerd as you) than her exercise. If she joins, it would turn the blog into a book club.

From Lybi on Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 17:14:57

Oooo what kind of books do you like Bethany? Some of my favorites: Wild Swans, The Hiding Plce, Life and Death in Shanghai, The Secret Life of Bees, To Kill a Mockingbird...on a lighter note--Twilight, New Moon etc.

From Michelle on Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 18:02:57

Hey Lybi, I'm so excitted that I made your favorite list!!! You are too funny! I also love it when we talk about books on the blog in addition to running too! I must be pretty shallow because I haven't read any of those except for twilight and Co. Right now I'm reading the first in a series that Callzee read to me on the way to St. George this weekend. It's called Inkheart, a childrens fantasy, but really pretty good so far. She's on Inkspell the second in the series and that got me interested. We never did talk about the Twilight series last weekend. Too much to do, too little time!

From Christi on Tue, Oct 09, 2007 at 20:48:48

Hey guys- I was thinking about how we didn't talk about books either that night. I wish I had time to meet more people, at least you're clue-ing me in on everyone Lybi. You are so good at getting to know everyone!! I can't believe you put me down in your favorite blog list- little ol' long winded me? Thanks! BTW I'm currently reading The Old Willis Place by Mary Downing Hahn, Its a junior novel that I have to read because I'm leading a discussion group for the 4th & 5th graders at school.. but really its pretty good so far and got lots of Halloween spirit! I recommend it- even to adults!

From Bethany on Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 11:49:00

Oh, my. Books are definitely a weakness for me. I loved secret life of bees, and to kill a mockingbird. I havent read any of the others you mentioned (yet anyway!) One of my all time favs is crime and punishment and the Lord of the Rings, Dan Brown books (angels and demons, the da vinci code) CS Lewis books, I love the Bronte sister's, Snow Flower and the secret Fan...oh I am getting carried away. :) I have heard that Twilight is good, but havent gotten around to it yet. I am currently reading Gone with the Wind and it is much better than expected. (much longer too!)

From Bethany on Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 11:49:54

Sorry, that note had no mention of running whatsoever! I admire you running all by yourself. I get so bored alone.

From Lybi on Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 12:00:41

Running/reading what's the difference? A little sweat here, a few dog-eared pages there.

Crime and Punishment, eh? I've never read that. Is it by a Russian author? I better get on it.

I also really like young adult and youth literature--like the Chronicles of Narnia and stuff like that. Actually there's nothing like that, but you know what I mean. Basically anything written by C.S. Lewis is on my favorites list, too. Anybody read "The Screwtape Letters"? Very interesting...

From Maria on Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 12:24:33

Lybi, I'm so excited I made your favorite list too (although not much is happenning on my blog these days!) But how come you forgot Sarah?? I'm sure you're checking her blog often :).

"Crime and Punishment" is indeed by a Russian author - none less than Dostoevsky! We had to study and dissect it in 9th grade in school. I liked reading it, but not all the dissecting and writing a composition on it! Come to think of it, I wouldn't mind reading it again with, I suspect, a slightly different perspective than I had at 15.

From Lybi on Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 12:29:35

I read Sarah's blog every day! I must have spelled the url wrong. Let me try again.

From Stacy on Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 22:46:03

Lybi, I just might be in love. (Don't tell Paul.) I LOVE C.S. Lewis and read the Chronicles of Narnia about twice a year. I recently re-read the Screwtape Letters, too. Being on the blog is getting better by the minute.

From Bethany on Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 23:15:09

Lybi and Stacy,

Have either of you read the Sci Fiction series by CS Lewis? Out of the Silent Planet, Perelandra or That Hideous Strength? I have not run into a single person who has. Good reads if you havent.

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Yesterday was my highest mileage day so far at 6.  My hamstrings are complaining just a little. 

It's not too hard to get 5.  I just add a little more annoyance to my morning 3.1 to get it to 3.5, then take the aggravating long-cut to school with the boys to get me the rest of the 1.5. 


 (No I am not pregnant...why does everyone keep asking me that?)

I am going to run a half marathon!  Apparently there is a half in Moab in March (is that right, Michelle?) that some of the ladies from the blog are going to do.  YAY!  2 weeks ago I was uttering opposed to running any race longer than 3.1 miles.  The turning point was St. George.  It left me with a desire to run longer--and also with a desire to find excuses to run with Mik'L and Michelle again!  So we need to think of a cool group name.  (It's not a relay, BTW--just a group to either all get in or not get in.)  I kind of want to borrow Christi's blog name to call us the "Shuffling Sistas".   Everyone please leave suggestions!  No such thing as a bad idea--post ANY names you can come up with for our little entourage!  I'll add more of my name ideas later, but I've gotta go now.   By the way, who is doing it?  All girls invited!  That means YOU MichelleL!  Also Josse and Lulu and Kate--and Christi, there's absolutely no way you can get out of coming!

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From Lulu on Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 14:05:17

I've looked at the race web site. I'll consider it. I have to figure out if I can travel at that time and run at that elevation without getting sick. Remember, here in Louisiana we don't have any mountains!

From Michelle on Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 14:43:18

Well wouldn't that be fun to have so many of us there to run together. Keep thinking up great names, and I'll check the web site and see when we have to have the entrance in. I'm not sure what the elevation of Moab is, but I don't think it's that high, maybe around 3000 ft? Anyone know for sure? Well anyways I'm excitted that your in Lybi! And as far as the rest of you go the more the merrier?(sp) I'm really thinking about the half in St. George in Jan. Lybi how bout that one? I know it's a long drive and we'll take what we can get!

From Lulu on Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 15:08:13

4100 feet. Sea level to 4100 feet isn't bad if your aren't running. Training at sea level + running at 4100 feet = sick, I think. Anyone know? I know when I went from sea level to 9000 feet in May I got sick in a hurry and I didn't run.

From Mik'L on Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 15:35:07

First of all Lybi you have got to change your picture...that doesn't even look like you! (To me anyway.) I would love to do Moab with everyone, as long as you don't laugh at me when you are all done and I still have 5 miles to go or something. I may have a real excuse by then, but we'll see. And Lulu, I don't think running at altitude really makes you sick, it's just hard on the lungs! Might slow you down a bit. Although I have gotten altitude sickness before? (That's my story about fainting three times within ten minutes.) But it wasn't from running and we were really high (Brian Head).

From laura on Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 15:59:27

That's great, Lybi!!! I'm proud of you settting your sites higher! I would like to say I'd be ready for a half marathon in March, but that sure sounds like a stretch!

From Christi on Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 20:36:30

"Dashing Divas" and we could have matching shirts! Just an idea... You can have shuffling sistas if you want, but dashing would sound a little faster (like we all are- HA!) Anyway- the Moab 1/2 looks beautiful! I'm going to see what I can do. We were supposed to be going to S. CA that week (disneyland) 'cause the kids have a break from school. But we'll see, maybe I can move things around. I'm doing Painters 1/2 in Jan. for sure...

From Lybi on Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 21:10:05

There. Hope that picture captures the real me for you, Mik'L. Fainting? I've got to hear that story some time. Wow that must be some mountain!

I hope you can come, Christi and Lulu. I am running it just for completion--and as a side note, living to run again another day.

Ummm... the Painter's half is too soon for comfort. Plus I'd prefer NOT to drive on the death traps disguised as Utah roads in January.

I like "Dashing Divas". Makes me want to start thinking about a possible team uniform--we'd each need a feather boa (chuckle).

I think I'll post my name ideas on the discussion board, under "running".

From laura on Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 21:51:44

Cool picture, Lybi, but I can't tell who everyone is. I'm guessing Michelle is in the middle?

Hey, how do you change fonts and colors? Whenever I try, it always goes back to being the same black.

From Shauna on Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 22:42:49

Congrats on the new goal!

I know every time I go to Flagstaff (1200 ft to 7600 ft), my running is very adversely affected. But when I go to Prescott (1200 ft to 4500), I usually do OK.

From Stacy on Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 22:49:30

Lybi, is anyone invited to join the group? I was only planning on doing the 5 mile, though, so maybe I'll just go it alone. The one and only time I did that race I had a broken arm and ran around 1:01 for five miles. Not bad for six weeks of training, but I think I can do better. Anyway, Paul and I will both be there.

From Michelle on Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 22:56:30

O.K. so everyone can see the new picture but me, I still have the old Lybi on my screen? What's up with that?

I'm liking the "Dashing Divas" and as far as the team uniform I like that too! But someone with an actual running store will have to do the picking!

Lulu if it's any thing to consider the half in Moab is almost all down hill if I remeber correctly and the coarse is also beautiful !!!

Christi, I hate to be the devils advocate on the Moab thing, but just let your kids miss school and call it a field trip, we need your experience and spunk!!!

Mik'L as for you, there is only one way you are getting out of this!!!

So that about wraps it up... aside from us not getting in. WE BETTER! Does anyone out there have any pull with the committee or whoever decides?

Well anyone else in? (Sarah I hope your thinking about this I'm sure you've been tuning in :)

From Christi on Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 00:31:40

Love the picture! Can you photo shop me in? J/K! OK girls- you've talked me into this Moab thing. Sounds so fun, how can I resist?

From Mik'L on Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 00:32:06

I'm not seeing the new picture either??? Malfunction! Where's Sasha when we need him. I'm OUT on the boa BTW. And I'm not much of a "pink" girl either in case we start talking uniforms. I like to blend in as much as possible. I might just have to sport my SGRC top.

Stacy- Sorry, but you are in on the half now. Better get training!

From Mik'L on Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 00:32:47

Oh! I just got the new pic...cute...of you guys!

From Lybi on Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 00:40:22

Yea Christi! I knew we'd get you. Mik'L I would not be caught dead in a feather boa either. But we do have to do SOMETHING extreme.

For anybody who can't see my picture...Michelle is in the middle looking glorious with the sunshine in her hair and also cool with sun-glasses. Mik'L is on the left looking cute and friendly. I am on the right looking slightly stunned with my mouth agape, apparently struggling to inhale. Oh, and Stacy is looking wistfully toward the finish line in the background.

And can I just say...YAY Stacy, of COURSE you will be part of the group, no matter what you choose to run that day!

From Michelle on Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 09:50:58

Well I guess that I missed out on the little blog social hour last night! And I still can't see the picture. What is wrong with my computer? I'm very excitted about Moab, but we are definatlely going to miss you on Sat.!!!!

From marci on Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 16:05:28

that is awesome you are all doing will rock!!!!

From Jon on Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 16:28:59

To reset the picture you see, hold down CTRL button while refreshing the web page.

From Michelle on Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 22:21:13

I didn't do anything special, but the picture showed up tonight. I wonder why it took so long?

From crumpyb1 on Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 22:48:44

I vote for Dashing Divas! You guys make me laugh. When is the Moab Half?

From callzee on Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 22:59:36

Lybi, thanks for climbing the wall with me on Friday! That was fun. Maybe someday I'll be able to keep up with you :)

From Lybi on Fri, Oct 12, 2007 at 01:02:15

No maybe about it, Callzee! Next year you'll have to come with us on a run!

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Well, thank goodness I finally got my 5 in so this stinkin' busy day can finally end!

2 miles with my boys this afternoon.  Very slow.

2 miles with Holly this evening, followed immediately by 1 alone. 

My arch is a teeny bit sore.  Probably nothing, but I am paranoid from reading about everyone who has had PF.

Hey girls, post if you are doing Moab on the Discussion Forum under Announcements.

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From josse on Fri, Oct 12, 2007 at 22:38:43

When ever I feel anything in my arches I immediatly start grinding into it with a hard ball (I use a little happy ball massager I have that has legs so it is off the ground) You don't want plantar problems.

From josse on Sat, Oct 13, 2007 at 21:31:49

So I don't know if you have any plans for lodging but we can get a condo that fits 10 people (really 8 but we can squeeze) for 45-65 dollars for two nights. I have done this before and they are nice and inexpensive way to go and unless you have already booked a room they are usually all booked by know. So just let me know that is if all 10 of us are planning on staying together.

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Quick!  Look at the mileage board.  I'm on the 2nd page for the first time ever--combination of all the St. George Marathoners recovering, and this being my highest mileage week ever.  Might as well enjoy that little tiny perk bc otherwise I am feeling blah.   Hopefully in the next week or so I will adjust to the higher miles and not feel tired all the time.  I'll probably slip off the page once everyone has reported today's run.  Victory is fleeting.

1.6 later tonight. around  12 min. pace. 

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From Michelle on Fri, Oct 12, 2007 at 11:40:32

Hey Lybi, I've never checked the mileage board... I really need one more thing to look at and spend time on this blog! (he, he) I've already confessed to being an addict! Sure will miss you tomorrow!!!! :( :( I have thought about commenting on the discussion board, but I haven't signed up or looked into how to do it. I will soon though. How come your feeling blah? You've had a great week, one step closer to getting in shape for Moab! I'm really excitted!!!!

From Mik'L on Fri, Oct 12, 2007 at 12:29:51

Good job Lybi! I rarely check the mileage board and just noticed Clyde and I are tied this week! (Who cares if I posted today already and he hasn't!) So I can't remember where you are in AZ, but aren't you close to Phoenix? I just booked my flights down there for November 3-6. I'll be staying close to the airport in Phoenix and working down there. Maybe we could try and hook up for a run? I won't have a car so I don't know how difficult that will be, but let me know.

From Lybi on Fri, Oct 12, 2007 at 14:20:31

Yes! Mik'L we should DEFINITELY plan on a run when you come down. We live in Mesa and it only takes about 35 min. for us to get to the airport. Maybe we could try to do a long run on Sat. (anything over 5 is long). We could invite Shauna too, she lives in Phoenix! I guess it depends on when you get in...

Michelle, my body is NOT used to doing 5 every day yet--that is the root of the blahs. I had just been doing 3.1--anything over that was pure extra credit in my book.

From Christi on Fri, Oct 12, 2007 at 18:05:11

Lybi- Hey chica! Wish you could run with us tomorrow. That will be fun if you run w/ Mik'l & Shauna next month. I'm afraid to look at the mileage board- I've been lazy this week. But kudos to you!! Have a great weekend!

From Mik'L on Fri, Oct 12, 2007 at 23:24:24

Still cruisin at the top of the second page. We get in to PHX about 2 p.m. on Saturday, so maybe we could try an afternoon run? Or I have that Monday off...

BTW, Michelle and I decided tonight that you are in charge of registering our Moab group :)

From Kim on Sat, Oct 13, 2007 at 00:05:46

Hey Lybi,

I would like to get in on that Moab group if possible. Can't promise to be able to keep up with you gals, but would love to run it!

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1st Page!  I better print out the mileage board to commemorate this historic day.

This was the only 5 miler that I did all at once this week.  Does NOT feel like brushing my teeth just yet.  Ave. pace 11:22. 

This week I had 29.1 miles.  Next week I'll be trying for a perfect 30.  I'm also going to try to sleep like a champion next week--56 hours or bust.

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From crumpyb1 on Sat, Oct 13, 2007 at 12:47:40

You are doing great, Lybi! Be patient with yourself. And in no time running five miles day after day will be a piece of cake!--with no sugar or white flour.

Have a great weekend. -Adrianne

From Lybi on Sat, Oct 13, 2007 at 13:00:50

Which leaves basically scrambled eggs. I have that all the time. :) Thanks Adrianne!

From laura on Sat, Oct 13, 2007 at 17:31:09

ha, ha, ha!! Enjoy the eggs and baking powder!

1st page - great job!!! I have to admit that I DO check the mileage boards and I was very impressed to see your mileage even before I got to your blog. I shoot for not being in the last 3 (of those who logged runs that week). Is that wimpy or what!?!?

It's so fun to see how many wives of runners are joining the blog. There might be quite a group in Moab, Mrs. organizer!!!! Now don't go and get pregnant on us! (or if you do, you can run my slow pace on the 5 miler). hee,hee

From Mom on Sat, Oct 13, 2007 at 19:13:02

Great! I saw the mileage board before I read your blog. More people have added their mileage and so you are now on the second page. However your nearly 30 miles may be a PR for the week. If I were you I would run .1 before going to bed to make 30!!!

From Michelle on Sun, Oct 14, 2007 at 00:42:02

Great week Lybi!!! How ya feeling now? I hoped really pumped!!!

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Oh Man!  I skipped my morning 3 because I was up jillions of times with little Adam, who was having a Puke-a-thon.  Gross!  Thank goodness James was there to help.  Now I'll have to run tonight. 

I just ran my oldest to school and set it up with the office to pick him up on foot too.  So that will give me 2.5 miles on weekdays.  So I just need at least 2.5 in the morning alone to get to 5 every day.  That sounds like cake to me, so I am excited. 

.7 later with the boys in tow.  I broke my double jogging stroller!  It's still usable, a little, but I don't know how much longer I have until it breaks the rest of the way.  It's totally my fault, I only locked one of the side supports (on accident).  So all the pressure was on the other side. 

I felt sick in the evening--very gurgly in the midsection and nauseated.  Skipped my evening run in order to stay within 10 yards of a REAL bathroom.  But I'm bummed because now Sasha can say that I "slipped".  : (

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From Clay on Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 15:08:59

That is wierd, I was up with my son Saturday night with the throw-ups. It must be something in the air.

From Bethany on Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 15:14:46

Nothing worse than a sick kid...except staying up with a sick kid. Poor Adam! Hope he feels better soon.

You have quite the set up to get your miles in. It does make it seem easier getting a few miles here and a few miles there.

From Christi on Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 15:47:32

Yikes! I pray the rest of you don't get the bug- yuck! You are so smart to work the runs into your daily life. Great example for the kids too. You rock!

From sarah on Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 16:39:33

Hey Lybi!! So sorry about the baby...I like your new picture...where am I? Must have run off to buoy up my dissappointed husband. Aren't all the new faces on the blog exciting...Sasha and I give you credit for at least half the people here..even if you didn't get them on the blog they come back for more Lybi...

From Lybi on Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 17:28:48

Clay, so sorry, there IS something in the air, and it STINKS!

Bethany and Christi, thanks so much! Yes, I am lucky to be so close to Sam's school. It takes the same amount of time to run as to drive, because of all the kid-picking-up traffic. So it caters to many mini runs--and saves gas, too.

Sarah--wow, you just made my day! What a nice thing to say...I think the blog is growing because it is just so darn cool of a blog! About the picture, I think you were either down helping your kids or caring for your hypothermic hubby. I came back with surprisingly few pictures--wish I had more. Actually, I did not get nearly enough Sarah time this trip. Did you get my apology about the lack of piano lessons for your kids? I still feel bad about that.

From sarah on Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 17:36:49

No problem..about the picture or piano time. I'm just glad I got to see you and had loads of fun almost breaking those bleachers when we cheered for Paul! Let's just break em down in two years for Sasha when he finally qualifies....I'm trying to use the language of faith here.

From Lybi on Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 17:37:30

He will!

From Michelle on Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 23:23:38

Hey Lybi, Sounds like you have a great little running plan in place!! I hope it goes well. Hope the tummy yuckies are all gone soon, that takes a tole on the motivation department!!!

From seespot on Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 12:13:35

What an adventure for yesterday! Wow.

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FINALLY!  Christine is back.  Hallelujah!!!  Have I told you all recently how much I love running with Christine?  1,000 times better.  I thought I would struggle today because I felt pretty sick last night, but I was fine--buoyed up by the never-ending stream of conversation.  2.8 miles in 10:11, 10:02 and 9:49 pace for the .8.

Finished running to and from school--2.4 with the mangled jogging stroller.  I feel good enough that I almost feel a little like I am cheating!  Are you guys absolutely sure that I will increase fitness better by running 5 miles each day (in three mini runs) than 3.5 all at once?

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From Bethany on Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 10:23:41

A good running partner definitely makes all the difference in the world! I ran solo today and really felt it :) Nice run, I hope I can get my miles to 10 min pace! Thanks for all your encouragement.

From Mik'L on Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 17:24:42

Glad you are feeling better! Hope it sticks!

From Sasha Pachev on Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 20:30:29

The short answer is yes. Once you get used to the routine, though, go a bit longer once a week to build confidence. Start with 5, then make it 6, 7, 8.

From crumpyb1 on Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 22:00:33

Isn't Sasha amazing? I am grateful he always has answers for my questions. And I am grateful for the running blog!

Keep that mileage rolling! You can do it. And I am glad it feels like cheating. Working out shouldn't be hard, hard. I think you should be able to enjoy it.

From Christi on Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 22:32:44

I think its AWESOME that you did over 5 today! And look- even the reassurance from Sasha that its Ok to break it up into a couple runs. I envy your energy!

From marci on Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 13:17:03

wow, lybi you rock at running!!!

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2.6 miles in the morning, partly with Holly, and partly alone.  I'm gonna start bringing my pepper spray!  It's getting so dark so early these days.

2.4 Running my son to and from school.  I finally broke the stroller the rest of the way. : ( 

On my Instep double jogging stroller there is a clip-like thing on each side that I have to push down (after unfolding the stroller) to keep the stroller from folding up while running.  A couple of days ago I broke one of the clippy things off because I didn't realize I had only clipped one side.  Too much strain for one clippy, I guess.  So I've been running with just the other side clipped, and just trying to be careful with it.  He he.  Being cautious has never been my strong suit.  Without functional clippies, the stroller tries to fold up if I allow any pressure on the handle bar.  So I can't turn it by raising the front wheel the way I usually do.

So this is me.. about .7 miles from home....jogging along, pulling UP on the handlebar.  Oh NO!  Here comes a turn.  Stop.  Lift the back two wheels off the ground (not to mention the 75 lbs. of offspring) grunt a little and carry it about 3 feet to the side.  Resume running.  Definitely a good biceps workout for me!  I hope hope hope I can buy parts to fix my stroller, as it has become a rather important part of my workout plan.

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From Bethany on Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 21:59:12

Oh no! I hope you can replace them too! You have such a good workout plan going. Plus your kids are seeing benefits too I will wager. Good luck!

Pepper spray is an excellent idea. cant be too careful.

From Shauna on Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 22:52:56

Good luck with the stroller. And 75 pounds-holy workout! That is amazing!

I use a headlamp at night now on the canal or the Central Ave. bridal path, because of the unevenness of the trails. I look like a BIG dork, but it casts some light on the trail, and people can see me coming (and cars, in theory). However, it cannot ward off attackers like pepper spray. :-)

From Michelle on Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 23:15:23

Dang the stroller is out! Your ingenious(sp?) husband must find a way to rescue you... isn't that there Job? 5 miles good job today !!!

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2.86 miles with Christine--splits of 10:11, 9:55 and 9:38 pace for the .86.  I felt like I had to push it just a little to keep up with her. 

2.5 miles taking my son to and from school with the double jogging stroller.  Apparently athletic tape is not the most effective stroller binding material.  I had to almost carry the darn thing (with two of my kids in it) about half a mile.  Maybe duct tape will work...somebody call Red-Green!

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From Christi on Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 14:21:58

Wow- speedy! I'm gonna be like you today and break up my runs- not time to have 1 consistent run! Have a great day!

From Christi on Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 12:24:18

I just read this again and am laughing at the image of you binding your stroller w/ athletic tape! Probably not so funny when you are carrying the kids though! Hope you have a marvelous weekend!

From laura on Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 12:46:13

Great job getting in more mileage lately, Lybi!! Rotten little stroller; doesn't it know you're in training!!! Hope you can fix it soon or find an inexpensive one on Craig's list.

From Michelle on Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 14:18:12

All I can say is you are going to be ultra fit with the weight of the stroller you are carrying and then ultra fast when you aren't running without it! But I agree there has got to be a stronger tape than athletic!

From Bethany on Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 21:35:41

Wow, Red Green, classic show. Nice looking splits, looks like a good run(s)

I bet your arms are seeing some benefit from the broken stroller. Does that count as cross training?

From Lybi on Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 23:38:44

I say yes, because now I'm all sore.

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3.5 in the morning with Christine.  34:59 for the whole run, so about 10:00 pace. 

1.5 in the evening alone and just a titch scared of the dark.  9:37 pace.  A bit faster than usual, but I was a little anxious to get back home!

Today was my son's birthday, and I did a very brave thing.  I threw my very first friend b-day party!  Yea!  We had all his favorite buddies come decorate cupcakes and make little baggies for piñata guts.  The kids had a lot of fun...and I ate a cupcake.  I'm in trouble now!

It makes me wonder what super healthy familes do with the holidays.  We're almost to Sugar-een, Stuff-Your-Gut-Giving, and Here Comes Sugar Claus.  Any ideas how to keep the spirit of these holidays alive (especially for little kids), without dragging the poor body violently up and down the glycemic index?  I should put this on the message board, but I'm feeling shy.  You all know how shy I am (ha ha).

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From Michelle on Sat, Oct 20, 2007 at 00:55:56

So Lybi, to make a long story short... after not feeling great I went out for a small run tonight. But before I left I called my bro.- in- law for some antibiotics for my daughter Jamie for a different problem. 1 mile into the run decided that the chance of hearing from him before the pharmacy closed in 30 mins. was slim, as I realized this I was running past my daughters other doctors house. Decided to knock and hit him up. He was at the ER so thats when I cut my run short and headed to the ER. To pay back my curb side ER visit I was sent to Wendy's for fries and frosties for the ER crew. I ordered 10 frosties. After delivering them I had a taste of Callzee's and it was pretty good, but I couldn't bring myself to go back to Wendy's and order yet another frostie. So I headed straight to McDonalds for a hot fudge Sunday! Well the moral of the story I guess is.... I can't have you feeling all guilty about that cupcake and I cave at the very site of good things so don't expect any great thoughts from me, at least untill I'm off this sugar high and can think clearly! Have a good run!

From Bethany on Sat, Oct 20, 2007 at 15:06:56

You are too funny. I always enjoy reading your entries. I especially like you sugar-een etc. My secret...I cave, without expection, each and every time I am in sight of sugar. I figure, why not take the Glycemic Index for a ride?

From Michelle on Sat, Oct 20, 2007 at 17:03:03

Bethany you and I are a lot a like in that one. I ride that roller coaster entirely too often!

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5 Miles all at once, for a change.  Probably the best 5 miler of my life--49:17 (ave. pace 9:51).  Did not have a single mile above 9:55.  Christine made the difference.   This is the first Sat. run she has been able to do with me.  It is so much easier to keep a steady pace when I run with her!  Plus the time just flies by while we talk.  I think we scared off one guy who was going about our pace by discussing the *ahem* details of our labor stories.  He he he.  Another one bites the dust... 

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From Michelle on Sat, Oct 20, 2007 at 16:38:39

Way to have a ROCK"IN run today!!! A fiver with an awesome pace !!!! So does that mean you scared him off or did you actually CHICK him??

From Lybi on Sat, Oct 20, 2007 at 16:41:20

I think we made him alter his course--but we would've chicked him, we were going slightly faster. Either way we out-toughed him. Labor is not for sissies.

From Michelle on Sat, Oct 20, 2007 at 17:04:10

I say chalk that up to an offical CHICK point for you!!

From Cody on Sat, Oct 20, 2007 at 18:51:34

Whatever! I am not discounting the pains of labor, but I am disagreeing on the chick count. Grossing a guy out so that he has to find a bathroom to lose his lunch (a plausible explaination for changing course) doesn't count. Innocent until proven guilty!

I am impressed with the run though...

From Lybi on Sat, Oct 20, 2007 at 19:46:42

Better be careful or I'll sic La Leche League on you, Cody. :)

Actually, we weren't really getting into gross stuff. We were mostly talking about our amazing babies, afterall. (Adam almost died!) Much more likely the guy didn't want to have to let us pass him. Manly pride and all...I'm sure YOU would understand! He he he. It really is a pity you're so stinkin' fast. I'll probably never get to chick you--unless you happen to break BOTH legs and an arm or something.

From Mik'L on Sat, Oct 20, 2007 at 22:41:10

Good job Lybi! Just when I was feelin good about my pace you go and kick my butt of course! Now we all HAVE to hear the story about Adam...

From Mik'L on Sat, Oct 20, 2007 at 22:51:15

BTW, check out Paul's blog today and see your awesome sign and your screamin self in the background of the pic! :)

From Lybi on Sat, Oct 20, 2007 at 23:48:08

Mik'L I'll tell you the whole story about Adam when I see you in 2 weeks! Yea!

From sarah on Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 09:47:15

Sasha has officially designed the girls racing shirts. Instead of "You just got chicked" it's going to say "Don't get chicked" to at least give the poor guy some hope that he can catch one of us and pass us back. You know...Sasha wants to advertise for the blog in a positive (but fun) way. BTW you are totally inspiring me to run faster again. I slowed way down since I've been getting up at 5:45 to run with Amanda...we are both just sleepy and I've noticed when I talk I want to run slower.

Sorry this is long but I thought I'd share with you this hilarious talk on just read from Elder Ballard. He mentions the demands of motherhood and commented on how someone suggested a survival show for men. Drop them on an island with four kids each-soccer games, music lessons, no fast food...gets vote out those doing a lousy job...i think there are other ways for us to "chick" a man!!

From Heber on Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 10:21:26

Congrats on the first Saturday long run! During the winter if you keep extending that long run you'll be in awesome shape by spring!

From Brent on Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 13:08:03

Lybi, you have cranked up the running a few notches, great effort. Hawaii was better than great, what a good time to be with my spouse and kids.

From Christi on Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 13:21:17

Hey Lybi- I'm just catching up on the weekend blog. NICE RUN! That's a great pace for 5! Sarah- how do we get our hands on these shirts that Sasha designed?

From heather on Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 16:06:55

Hi gals,

Re the women's t-shirts: I guess I don't get the slogan. Is the point to inspire men to run faster b/c they don't want to get beat by a, gasp, girl? I like the "you just got chicked" better. It's funny and it's about the woman running, not the guy who can't catch her.

From Lybi on Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 16:11:50

Thanks everybody! It is amazingly satisfying when people notice a good run. I'm getting all excited about running longer now.

Sarah, that's amazing to me that you feel inspired by me--I am inspired by YOU and your consistency!

Welcome back Brent! Isn't it great to see all these new people? Bunch of running widows just got started--Kim, Stacy, Bethany, & Marci. Plus we just got this super human beast Sean. I saw him come in at St. George (3rd). He closed like a freight train! Very fun. Plus lots of others!

From Lulu on Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 16:17:26

Good job. Keep up the miles and smiles!

From Lybi on Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 16:18:08

I just saw Heather's comment. Maybe we could soften the blow to the man by putting a picture of a fluffy yellow chick with "You just got chicked." He he he. Sasha has a say, though, since he's the guy who invented the blog, and it's kind of his brand, or whatever.

One thing I need to clarify is that I know nothing about making shirts! I hope I'm not in charge of it! But if shirts ARE going to be made, I hope they end up being girl-shaped running shirts. I hate looking like a guy!

From sarah on Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 18:33:11

Sasha says the shirts will be ready in a couple of weeks. The girls shirt is already "Don't get chicked" I told Sasha that I liked the other one too but he really wants the guy to keep trying and not give up...I guess guys aren't officially chicked until the end of the race anyway. And he figures if the guy a fastrunningblog girl passes comes up to the girl that's threatening to chick him it will be better advertising than just leaving the poor fellow in the dust...maybe he'll join too.

From sarah on Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 18:35:43

Steve Hooper is in charge of making the shirts...fluffy yellow chicks is a great idea but like I said I think the first version of the shirts anyway is already in the works...

From Lybi on Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 19:24:21

Oooo! I'm excited about the shirts. They'll be great! Encouraging people (guys) to do their best is a good thing too. Just as long as we don't have to let them pass us, I'm in.

Steve is the man! I'll bet they turn out fabulous.

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I ran one mile with Holly in the dark this morning.  It was GUSTY!  The kind of wind that blows you all over the road!  The kind that reminds me of the Wizard of OZ!  But despite that, Holly set a record for her fastest mile by almost a minute, so I am super proud of her.

Then I ran my son to school, followed immediately by a tempo mile with the double jogging stroller.  I counted it as a tempo mile because I had this crazy notion to break my record for the fastest mile with the double stroller.  I'll have to check, but I think I did it.  My time was 9:57, and I was breathing HARD.  (I just checked, and my previous record with the stroller had been 10:50.  Yea!)  It was still kind of windy, and I had to finish uphill and into the wind.  Felt like I was sprinting--but only going 9:30 pace at the end.

My boys were sick of being in the stroller, so they sat on the curb and watched me finish the distance by doing laps in the cul de sac about 1,000 times.  One lap is .04 of a mile.  I did half a mile that way--at 8:45 pace mostly.  I hadn't intended to do it that fast, but it just seemed so easy after running with that honkin' stroller!

1.3 miles later picking up my son from school.

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From Michelle on Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 16:43:56

Way to get it done today Lybi! Don't you just hate running in the wind? Happy to say today was fairly windless here! I need to measure my cul de sac and check the distance, sometimes Callzee wants to just do laps around it but I always think I would feel like a mouse on a running wheel. Sounds like for you it was a pretty speedy way to get it done, so maybe we'll give it a try!

From Lybi on Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 16:48:16

It IS boring. And then I always I really need to give the neighbors another reason to doubt my sanity? But it's better that running around the inside of my house--I've done that before when I couldn't get out. Ug!

From Mik'L on Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 18:10:52

You are nuts! That is a smokin time with the stroller though! I wish I had a crazy neighbor like you to give me something to laugh about.

About my PHX trip...I get to Phoenix about 2 or so on Saturday (3rd) and have that afternoon/evening and Monday to try and hook up with you to run. You'll have to check your schedule and see what will work. I don't know if I will be able to keep up with you though!

From Stacy on Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 20:29:34

Awesome run! Your time with the stroller is about two minutes faster than my pace today. I'll get there some day.

From Bethany on Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 21:00:58

Nice job running around the cul de sac. You should keep an eye on YouTube for "crazy neighbor running in circles."

Nah seriously, nice dedication! Your boys have a great female role model!

From Christi on Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 22:04:21

That stroller is making you fast! When is your next race?

From Shauna on Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 23:34:07

Wow! Did running around the cul-de-sac make you dizzy? :-) And I don't know what was up with me this morning-I didn't know about the wind! (But I was in bed until 7:00) I guess you are 30 miles away from me-it could make a difference!

From laura on Mon, Oct 22, 2007 at 23:57:35

9:57 pushing 70 pounds in an awkward stroller!!!!!! Lybi, you're smoking! I'm jealous that you're getting a great full body workout . . . well, no I'm not. I don't want to push 70 pounds around our hills here! ;o) Hey, where are you guys going for Thanksgiving or Christmas? Isn't there usually a turkey trot in Tempe - if we're there, maybe we can race together. I'll be able to watch your back slowly disappear into the horizon while I plug along. ;o)

From Lybi on Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 00:09:02

Laura--Oh man! There IS a Turkey Trot and it is awesome. It's a 2 miler and many of our awesome cousins do it. But this Thanksgiving we're going to North Carolina to be with James' parents. Christmas I want to be in New Mexico.

Shauna--you know the biggest wind here is from my mouth...but it really was quite windy at 5:30 this morning! By the way, Sat. afternoon run with Mik'L on Nov. 3rd work for you? What time? Oh I don't know, 4:30 or so...let me know for sure so I can tell Mik'L.

From Christi on Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 10:30:02

Lybi- so where in NC is James' family? I was born in NC and have lots of family there around Asheville just north of Spartanburg (SC).. Just curious. I love NC!

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2.85 With Christine with splits of 10:08, 9:42, and 9:27 pace for the .85.  Probably a little faster than I would have liked this morning.  I should have asked her to hold up a little, but I was chicken, and she didn't respond to my subtle hint of hanging about 2 feet behind her.  : )  I'm supposed to be grounded to 9:45 pace and above on my slow runs until I can do a 24:24 for a 5K, or something like that.

1.28 With the double jogging stroller to take my little guy to school.  Can I take just a minute to say how glad I am that I started running him to school?  He is doing so well!  Usually by this time of year I have to put him on mild steroids (Flovent 44) every day to keep his asthma stuff under control.  But he is doing fine--no croup, no respiratory infection, no diff. breathing.  This is amazing for the end of October!  And his other health issue (which has been a problem forever) is getting much better too.  Let's just say he is a pretty regular little boy now!  I've gone to all kinds of specialists with him for various stuff, but none of them ever suggested running with him every day, yet that has been the most helpful of anything we've tried so far--including prescription medication.  And it takes the same amount of time as driving there; and we always talk a lot and review spelling and math facts--so he is doing really well at school.  OK, I'll stop now.  I'm just excited.

About 1.15 later today to pick up little guy from school.


Vote on names for the Canyonlands Half on the discussion board, everyone!

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From Michael on Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 16:09:39

Glad your boy is doing well. He must enjoy the stroller run with Mommy. He's probably a future Olympian

From Michelle on Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 16:12:57

Lybi, I'm so glad that your little guy is doing so well! Unfortunatley I am the "expert" on your little guys problem and if you need any med advice I can give you some great ideas. Jamie my daughter with spina bifida has battled that her whole life and they have to be very cafeful with meds at the same time being very agressive so, have you heard of mirilax ? Maybe what you have is working, and the running seems to be helping too. But if I can help I would be glad too! Great run today! You are really taking the training up a notch!

From Michelle on Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 16:19:03

Oh Lybi, BTW when I get home on the 1st, it will be first sign up day for Moab half. I can do that when I get home. Can you get the official name for our group and then sent me a comment. I think that I sign us up and then you guys look up our name and sign up individually under our group name. At least thats the way that I read it. I will plan to do it when I get home unless I hear different from you or anyone else. I hope you can round up the troops and get it figured out and I will take it from there then. Thanks!!!

From Christi on Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 16:41:51

Hey Lybi! Glad running is benefitting your family. I'm not as much as an expert as Michelle when it comes to kids & tummy problems- but Toby did have lots of issues with that as a kid. As he got older and more active it really helped and seems to get better with age. Anyway- sounds like you had a great run today and don't be afraid to speak up if Christine is going too fast, she may secretly just be trying to keep up w/ you!

From Mik'L on Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 20:47:15

That is awesome that your son is responding so well to running. I'm impressed with your split up running, I find that hard to do. Do you run in regular clothes or just hang out in running clothes all day or what? It would be nice to split it up sometimes.

From Stacy on Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 20:53:24

I had asthma as a kid (I've mostly grown out of it, but have an asthma attack about once a year now) and the best things I ever did were the things that seemed counter-intuitive. Running helps you keep your breathing rhythmic and builds your lung capacity. I didn't run when I was younger, but I did pick up the trumpet, which seemed like something a person with breathing trouble wouldn't be able to do. I think that it actually helped me to outgrow the asthma. Great job today!

From Shauna on Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 22:28:17

I'm glad your son is doing better!

I'm curious about your comment that you need to do 9:45 for slow runs until you can run a 24:24 5K. Did Sasha tell you that? That's been my approximate pace lately. Maybe I'll have to try another 5K soon. There's one on Saturday at South Mountain. Hmmmm.......

From Shauna on Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 22:31:47

Lybi, I can't find your comment about meeting up with you and Mik'l on 11/3. I think you said something about 4:30. That sounds great to me. Just so you know, I start trial the following week and might be buried at work all that weekend. BUT, as of right now, I am planning on running with you two, and I'm looking forward to it!

From Lybi on Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 23:56:31

Shauna, I had to look it up, but yes, Sasha said that I should stick to 9:30 and up, preferrably 10, or even 10:30 pace for easy runs until I can run a 24:00 5K. That seems like a long ways away, but I don't doubt the wisdom of it. I always try to do whatever Sasha advises.

And cool if you can run with us on Nov. 3rd!

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I had a really scary dream last night about running in the dark, so this morning when my running buddy slept in I took it as a sign and went back to bed.  I can't deny--it felt really good! 

2.83 with the double jogging stroller.  It was really hard today (it's always hard to me, but still!)  I figured out why at the end of my run, when the front tire started making a weird grating sound.  It was so flat that the rim was rolling on the ground--Ug!

2.17 Tonight all by my lonesome self. 

Had some pain in my femur today--or maybe it was my quads.  It caused a little bit of a limp for about 3 quarters of a mile.  Felt better as I went along.  (That means it can't possibly be a stress fracture, right?) I took it extremely slow all day.

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From josse on Thu, Oct 25, 2007 at 09:57:51

I would take a rolling pin to that quad, if it is just muscle this should help. It will hurt but do it as hard as you can stand :) and think happy thoughts.

From Lybi on Thu, Oct 25, 2007 at 10:01:30

A rolling pin! What a great idea, Josse! Last night James saw me limping around the house and absolutely forbade me from running today. :( Does that sound right to you? I am sure now that it is tense muscles in the quad causing the problem. James rubbed it down for me last night and there were several knots in the muscles.

From josse on Thu, Oct 25, 2007 at 10:05:40

I know it is hard to take a day off, I had to so this yesterday. But if you are limping a day or two won't hurt and it is better than several months off. Maybe do some cross training today and see how you feel. I would do some cold/hot on it as well.

From Lybi on Thu, Oct 25, 2007 at 10:19:08

You are a freakin' GENIUS when it comes to injuries, Josse!! Thanks for the help.

From josse on Thu, Oct 25, 2007 at 11:01:53

I have worked on them for a long time, and had many myself. Another thing is doing a deep strech in that quad. Bring your foot up to your behind as you would in a normal quad strech then push that hip forwrd for a deeper strech. Hold for 15-20 seconds and

breath deep. Do both sides at least 3 times. I think taking the time to strech is most runners down fall. I even neglegt it and know better. I know if I keep up my yoga I do better but get busy and forget to do it. I am really trying to do it know.

From Sasha Pachev on Thu, Oct 25, 2007 at 13:54:11

A flat tire in a jogging stroller can easily make your quads overwork.

From Bethany on Thu, Oct 25, 2007 at 19:34:03

You and your poor jogging strollers! Talk about double workout Lybi! Hope the quad cheers up soon.

From Brent on Thu, Oct 25, 2007 at 22:39:13

Jogging stroller with bad wheels? Maybe a cross training day or two is in order. I am not sure whether you get commando points for pushing a stroller with a flat or you were in a running daze. Anyway, be careful out there, you have a big half marathon to train for.

From Lybi on Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 00:40:01

I know it was dumb. I was just talking to my kids...and wondering why the stroller kept pulling to one side.

From Sasha Pachev on Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 11:07:33

How is the quad doing?

From Lybi on Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 12:05:26

Sasha--I'm not limping when I walk, so that's good. It does hurt to run on though, especially those first few steps. But it is getting better day by day. I think it's just a muscle spasm. I see now how people can tear a muscle while running--if they get all tense like this first. I did some walking yesterday, some heat, and some rolling pin work. I probably need to go to the chiro and maybe get even a massage, which I have never done before.

Thanks for the concern! I know you are a super busy coach, but you are a good one.

From laura on Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 10:27:06

Ouch!! I'm so sorry to hear about your quads, Lybi. I know it must be hurting you a lot since you've gone 2 days now without posting a run. I hope you do actually get a massage!! Take care of my favorite little sister (hee,hee)! Love you.

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2 Whole days off from running, waiting for my quads to return to normal.  Holy weirdness, Batman!   It seemed like a lot longer.  I guess that I really need to admit how important running has become in my life, and how grateful I am to be able to do it.

So I took a nice little jog with each of my little boys one at a time--totaling a whopping 1.5 miles (ave. pace 15:00).  It felt really good, so tonight I will do another 1.5 at around 10:30 pace or something like that. 


Later: I procrastinated my 2nd run until rather late at night.  I got all dressed and everything, went out, ran 3 steps, and froze in place.  There were some really scary looking people staring right at me, and I allowed myself to be intimidated.  My bad for putting the run off until it is so late that even (possibly) harmless teenagers take on the ominous look of escaped convicts.

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From Bethany on Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 16:54:37

So glad your quads felt good enough to at least jog. Welcome back! Hopefully tonight goes well also.

From sarah on Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 18:08:28

I'm so sorry you are's probably good to have a break but I know it's annoying when you've gotten into the habit.

From christi on Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 20:12:07

Glad you're back. Missed ya, but you were smart to listen to the body (and your instincts about running in the dark) Hope you have a fun relaxing Sat. night & Sunday!

From Sasha Pachev on Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 20:42:55

Good recovery plan. When a setback happens, the right thing to do is to gradually ease into your regular training, even though you might be feeling very anxious to push.

From Mik'L on Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 21:04:53

Glad you're back. I hope we are still on for next Saturday?

From Lybi on Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 21:19:27

Oh we're on, we may just be a little slower (sorry!). Mind pushing me in a jogging stroller? JK.

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1 Mile with Holly this morning.  She did a great job!  A new mile record for her at 11:59.   She is a really busy chica, and is going really really gradually with the running--just 1 mile 2X a week, but that is still infinitely better than doing nothing. 

I'm going to shoot for 3 miles by the end of the day.  4 Tomorrow, and 5 the rest of the week.  I should be all back to normal by Saturday--so I can run with Mik'L and (hopefully) Shauna without the lovely injury paranoia I have right now.

PM--2 miles mostly with my oldest little boy, who keeps me at a very controlled pace. 

Hey, I have a really cute picture of Mik'L and Michelle I was going to try to put in my blog today, but I can't figure out how to do it.  A little help...



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From annie on Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 12:45:19

three boys... oh my!

From Clay on Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 18:33:33

Lybi, where has you Hubby been, no posts for awhile, is he okay?

From brent on Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 20:28:01

Lybi, glad to hear of your quick recovery, Keep it fun.

From Christi on Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 21:54:54

Hey Lybi- Wish I could help you post your pictures- but as you can tell by my cruddy pic on my blog- I'm no expert!! Hope your leg is feeling better? That's great that Holly is getting out there. Does she have a blog? My sister & her should chat- my sister is having trouble finding time to get out but I've been encouraging her to just do a couple miles a week...

From Mik'L on Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 22:04:39

Not that you need to post a pic of me, but you have to post the pic somewhere on the web (I use and then right click the picture, hit properties, and copy the URL. Then when you are editing your blog hit the little picture icon and paste the URL of the picture in the box that pops up and that should do it! (At least that's the only way I've figured it out!)

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2 miles with Christine this morning.  I successfully dragged her down to 10:30 pace on ave.  Felt great, wanted to go faster.  2 more tonight and I'm home free--back to 5 a day tomorrow.   

Look at this cute picture of part of the FBR cheering section at St. George:


There!  I did it.  This technological feat opens a whole new world of possibilies for me, blogwise.


PM--2 miles completed with the jogging stroller, slow.  Felt great.


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From Mik'L on Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 20:57:45

That's quite festive! Good job getting back in to the miles so quickly!

From Christi on Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 21:33:08

Good job with the mileage today! Nice pic too- cute border & everything! Did you notice that you girls & the "fast running blog" poster made it to the gallery page of photos from this year's SGM? Thought that was cool. So do you know if Michelle is taking charge of signing us up for Moab? Isn't that deadline soon? Heather & I are in, just not sure if I should be doing anything...

From Sasha Pachev on Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 21:35:43

What are Christine's PRs?

From Bethany on Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 22:47:46

Congrats getting back up in mileage. Good luck getting your 5 tomorrow (though Im sure you wont need it.)

From Heber on Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 09:08:33

I think on a day when you want to go faster you probably should. Listen to your body and you won't go wrong. No need to drag your time either up or down to hit a target your body doesn't want. When I feel great I crank up the speed. When I feel less good than usual I slow it down.

From Lybi on Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 09:33:33

Heber, I'm going slow because I'm just recovering from a muscle strain. I agree with your philosophy about running fast and slow according to how your body feels, though. And thanks for checking in!

Sasha--Christine hasn't done much racing, but her 5K PR is in the high 23 range, her one 10K was 53:55, and her one marathon (after just an 18 week training program) was 4:15. I definitely think she has a lot of potential. Her son is crazy fast. I think he's the youngest guy on the CC team at his school, but he almost always finishes top three.

From Michelle on Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 21:31:59

Hey I'm home and just getting on to register Moab. I'll let you know as soon as I get done! As for the name I like then both! But as far as I go it's more 100% crazy, 50% dedicated but since this a team effort.... he he!

I actually am going to use the blogger one and then if we need another team they can use the second one! I'll post on the forum as soon as I'm done too!

From Michelle on Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 21:41:44

I got on to register and they changed it to open up on Nov. 15th-Dec. 15th the way I see it, if I wrong let me know, a little too much sun and a little jet lag could be affecting the brain? :) Oh by the way, oh so clever with the pics and borders... how did you do that? I'm technically challenged that would never work for me!

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Ran my son to school, then ran a couple more miles.  Had to take the double jogger for the last mile, because James had to take the car in.  12:50 (with my son), 10:20 alone, 10:23 partly with the jogging stroller, .89 at 11:20 pace with the stroller.

1.3 miles later to pick up my son from school.

I'm feeling really happy because James doesn't have to work today!  Yea!  We are gonna carve pumpkins and other fun stuff.

But I am also feeling slightly creeped out because I had to kill a bark scorpion. 

Incidentally, the first scorpion I ever saw was on my 2 year-old's back!  He came running to me saying, "a crab! a crab!" 

I said, "A crab?  Where?"

He replied with obvious delight, "On my neck!" 

Sure enough, it was the venomous bark scorpion on his shoulder blade.  I brushed it off and killed it, and we obviously both lived to tell the tale.  But this is just one more reason why I want to move to New Mexico.  NO SCORPIONS!

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From laura on Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 12:22:33

I can't believe you posted that picture!!! - not just for the technological expertise but the sheer yuckness factor!! Blek!!! (hee,hee) I hate scorpions ... almost as much as I hate Centipedes. Nothing quite gives me the creeps like those ugly buggars.

Great running. I've been such a slacker lately. But I finished that crazy, addicting Twilight series now. You have GOT to call me when you finish Eclipse. I have to talk to someone about it!! Luv ya

From marci on Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 12:25:36

you seriously killed one of those. you are an inspiration to me. I could never do that. i would run the other way!

From Mik'L on Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 12:51:46

When they get that nasty, I vacuum them up so I don't have to touch them! Yuck!

So I guess we need to start pinning down our run this Saturday! Let me know since we are in your territory!

From Heber on Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 12:56:58

You should both talk to Debbie about the Twilight series. She's big on it. Kimmie didn't like it that well though.

From Cal on Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 13:04:26

I had a pet scorpion in my office for almost a year. His name was Hobbs. That photo looks alot like him...

From Tom on Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 13:18:13

Hahaha...Cal(vin) and Hobbs...hehehe I get it.

So Lybi why do you want to move to New Mexico and not our fine state of Utah? There are plenty of scorpion-free places here you could live if you don't mind maybe putting a few more layers on during winter time running.

From Clay on Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 13:31:08

Just seeing that picture freaked me out, I hate scorpions and snakes and spiders!!!

From Lybi on Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 17:36:59

Laura, I had to do SOMETHING for Halloween! Scorpions are scarier than spiders, by all accounts.

Marci, I guarantee you could kill a scorpion if you thought it was a danger to your kid! The sting of a bark scorpion can be fatal to little ones, and people with certain allergies. It is probably about the same as a black widow--except it works through nerve toxins. I know someone who was stung by one, and they lost feeling and the use of their arm for 2 weeks!

Clay, you are right. All those things are yucky.

Cal, I bet you had a big ol' desert scorpion. They are much cooler (bigger) and not dangerous. Very interesting choice for a pet! Now the real question--did you ever pick it up? No? What kind of pet owner are you?! JK

Tom: Too many weirdos in Utah. (I'm gonna get it for that one!) Actually, I am a BYU alum. and I LOVE the mountains and weather, plus good friends. The only problem with Utah for me is that no one from my family lives there.

From Brent on Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 20:08:46

happy Halloween, scary, scary, scary, good work on the running today.

From crumpyb1 on Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 20:23:20

Lybi, thanks for the CREEPY Halloween picture and story! I was thinking if I was really cool, I'd have a digital camera and transfer a picture of Will in his pilot costume straight to today's blog. But since I still buy film, we'll have to wait a month for me to take the rest of the pictures and develop the film.

I've been thinking about adding a digital camera to my Christmas Wish List along with a Garmin, World Peace, a shopping spree to JoAnn's, a life time exemption from all race fees, a cure for all types of cancer, and more running socks.

From Christi on Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 08:30:52

FREAKY! I hate scorpions! I've seen a couple this past year in SG. Saw a huge one at 5am one morning while running in the dark- my flashlight just happened to shine on it right by my foot- yuck! Funny story about your son calling it a crab!!! Thanks for the Moab info. I just want to make sure I get a check to Michelle in the mail, but I'll just chat w/ her when she gets back. Have fun running w/ Mik'L & Shauna this Sat!

From Mik'L on Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 17:14:59

FYI, I emailed you with my info. See ya Saturday!

Christi- Michelle doesn't have to sign us all up. She will just sign herself up and name the group and then we can all go online and sign up and add ourselves to the group that she made up. Does that make sense?

From Michelle on Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 19:32:00


I'm home and feeling a little out of it! So I'll get everyone signed up but I need the official name! Well not everyone but me and then you guys can get on and sign up. I'll get on it as soon as I hear from someone!

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Look at my guys!  Halloween was good to us.

2.8 with Christine.  I would've thought that I was going sub 10 pace, but actually we went fairly slow today despite moderate effort.  Probably related to the yucky night of sleep from all the *coughing* chocolate I ate last night.  I've been off of my no-sugar diet since my 2nd son's b-day party, btw.  Time to get back on, though!  How can I gain that much in one stinkin' week?!

2.5 Running my son to and from school.  I broke the law today.  Well, I break the law everyday, but today was different because I did it about 6 feet away from a policeman (NOBODY TELL SCOTT ZINCONE!).  Let me explain...

Unfortunately, I am forced to J-walk across a 5 lane road everyday to and from school with my 3 kids in tow.  I would love to cross at the light, but there is some kind of nasty construction complication on the other side that renders it impassable.  Luckily, it is not a busy road at the times when I have to cross (and I always wait until there are practically NO cars in sight!) 

I have always been a little uncomfortable about this situation--especially because there are jillions of parents in a huge traffic jam in the school parking lot who are bored, and stare at me when I do it.  I've been a little concerned that someone would object.   So today when I saw the policeman sitting there on the sidewalk with his mototcycle right where I cross, I feared the worst.  As soon as I was within blubbering range, I immediately launched into an explanation/plea bargain of why I have to cross there.  His eyes glazed over after a few seconds, and he starting talking on his phone without even waiting for me to stop.  He never even said a word to me.  I still wonder if he was there to apprehend me, or was just  having bike trouble or something.  Anyways, since he seemed preoccupied, I just crossed the road as usual.  So this is why we pay taxes, people.  Just think about it.

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From Scott Zincone on Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 08:01:41

In my little town there has never been a problem with J-walking. Everybody just crosses wherever they want and hopes for the best. Maybe he, like me very often, was doing something really getting a list of things to do from his wife before going home. Or maybe he realized how good you are at running tangents.

From Michelle on Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 08:21:19

Lybi, what is a strassburg sock? I am willing to try anything right now?

You are having way too much fun with the pics. and they are sooo cute! I guess I'm going to have to figure out how to change and put them on without my husbands help! Looks like halloween was good to you guys! Good luck reigning in the diet. I'm not even sure where to begin with mine ?

From Lybi on Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 08:47:30

Hahahah, Scott you made me laugh. Yes, I'm sure he was doing something important. He really did seem to be inspecting his bike rather closely.

Michelle, the sock is a therapudeic device for helping heal from plantar fascitis. It is basically a long sock that has a velcro strap pulling your toes up. You wear it when you sleep. It is not super comfortable, but it really does work. James had PF really bad at one point. He used a combination of the sock and taking break from running for about a month(sorry). But he is now completely recovered. And if any symptoms flare back up, he just nips it in the bud by wearing the sock at night for a week or so. PF is one of those things that can really take you down. You might have to take a week off and swim or something. Don't worry, you'll still have plenty of time to get ready for the half! But if it continues to get worse, it could get to the point where it take a REALLY long time to heal.

From Mik'L on Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 10:56:41

Cute pic! I want to know if you dressed up for Halloween?! Funny story too. And even the best of us have to give in to the goodies on Halloween, right?! See you tomorrow!

From Bethany on Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 11:42:43

Cody used the sock too and it really did wonders. He used it on both feet (not at the same time) and swears by it.

Darling picture Lybi! You are becoming quite the expert with your blog. I love checkin it out. Plus, your little confessions make me feel oh so much better about myself (IE sugar crashes for Halloween and J walking- I didnt even know this was against the law until I was in Jr High! No one seems to care much)

From Sasha Pachev on Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 11:57:48

Lybi - I suppose you are learning that slips in diet consistency, while bad for men, are particularly bad for women.

From Shauna on Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 11:59:41

I love the picture!

What is the plan for tomorrow? Do you want to meet at Tempe Town Lake? The entrance is on the northwest corner of Mill Ave. and Rio Salado-there's a big iron sign. I'll probably recognize you from your picture, but I am 5'8", and I have long blonde hair. And, the running clothes will probably give me away too!

Let me know if that location works for you, and what time, and I'll be there!

From Michelle on Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 12:08:50

Well I ordered the sock, I'm glad to hear another testimonial. I'm sure it won't be here for a day or two, so I'm going to keep the running a little light for a bit, I think? I really don't have another form of exercising if I don't run so I can't really stop. Our gym is not a pleasant place to be and they require a 6 month membership, and swimming isn't something that I'm good enough at to call it a workout!

From Shauna on Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 15:11:14

Lybi-I just sent my contact info to your email.

From Lybi on Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 15:14:36

Mik'L I wore pajamas. Does that count as a costume? Pajamas are the best. Any day you can wear them all evening is a good day.

Sasha, you are the only person on Earth who can tell me I need to lose weight without it offending me in the slightest. So enjoy it, but don't abuse it. ;)

Bethany and Mik'L: HI! (I had to say SOMETHING!)

Shauna--I like your plan. See you there around 4:45-4:50? Email me & I'll send you my contact info.

Michelle--glad you got the sock! In the meantime, maybe you could just try to run shorter, slower, and on soft surfaces like grass.

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Ran with Christine this morning.  9:59 average pace.  I'm feeling not so hot (queasy and headache) so I am skipping my evening run to save my strength for the run with Mik'L and Shauna tomorrow.  So, taper, I guess.

I got a letter from my son's principal about jay-walking today.  She said that if a policeman were to see me jaywalking, he would give me a written violation.  Sam's principal is a dork. 

1.) Spelled my name wrong

2.) Made a parallelism error (grammar)

3.) Called the police on me before even talking to me about it 

4.) Sent a warning letter which would clearly arrive AFTER I had encountered the policeman she had called

5.) Quoted laws in the body of the text that clearly indicated that what I was doing was NOT actually jay-walking  (I guess there must be a working traffic signal on BOTH sides.  On one side in this case, there is an intersection with no light.)

6.) Apparently had not even noticed that the sidewalk and shoulder along the route she recommended was completely obstructed

7.) Most likely could not run furthur than 400 yds. without passing out

I am slightly miffed.


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From Lulu on Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 22:09:43


I would be MIFFED too. Actually, it made me miffed reading it. However, don't give that Bozo any power, forget about it and have a GREAT WEEKEND!

From Michelle on Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 22:45:15

Lybi, sorry to hear about the letter, I'm not sure if I told you but my husband is a elementry principal, he's not here or I'm sure he would definatley side with you and say that he is a dork too, I think so too! Have fun on your run with the blog girls in the morning, I wish I could go with you!!!

From josse on Fri, Nov 02, 2007 at 23:33:20

She sound power hungry, and must be trying to fill some kind of void in her life. I hope she treats the kiddies good.

From Shauna on Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 00:36:42

She's probably jealous that she can't run as far as you!

From Christi on Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 10:38:44

I just think that's plain weird that she singled you out like that. I agree w/ Shauna- probably just jealous that you are a dashing diva! I hope you Shauna & Mik'L are having a good run today!

From Clay on Sat, Nov 03, 2007 at 15:33:56

I have to second the Dork comment, hasn't that principle got anything better to do, gee-wiz... Way to stand your ground Lybi, you always have the most interesting things happen to you, it like your a magnet!!!! Have a good weekend.

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Lovely little twilight run with Mik'L and Shauna.  It was my first time to meet Shauna--what a treat!  I hope we can do this again sometime.  We ran around  a humoungous lake--crossing over it twice on suspension bridges.  It was fun to talk.  I discovered that running in really deep sand can hurt as much as a very steep hill!  Lucky for me the sandy stretches weren't that long.  Ave. pace 10:34.

James and I got up at 4:30 to watch the trials.  I was quite shaken by the death of Ryan Shay!  This is partly due to the fact that I've had to come pick up James from an ambulance after a run.  I just feel so sad for his wife and family...

Congratulations Paul and Sean!  You are a credit to the blog and to distance running!  Logan, I am so sorry it didn't turn out as you had hoped, but I am so grateful you are okay.  You have only just begun to see where your talent and dedication can take you!  Nobody makes the Olympic Trials in marathon after only 3 years of running!   It is just amazing.

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From Michelle on Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 00:20:55

Sounds like you guys had a lovely run tonight, I'm jealous! Hey we get an extra hour of sleep tonight YIPPEE !!

From Mik'L on Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 17:01:44

Thanks for the run...I had a blast! And thanks for being my chauffeur! I was glad to get a run in too. Hopefully I will see you before May (in Moab?).

From Michelle on Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 23:07:33

Hey, isn't Moab in March? I also read that Shauna said see you in May to Mik'l is that in refrence to Moab also? Just wondering!! BTW, I love your quote....I feel the exact same way!!!(sometimes I even feel a little guilty about that, but not very often, He,He!)

From Paul Ivory on Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 13:03:23

Thanks for the note in my blog. Us old guys have as much fun as you young ones. Keep up the good work as you continue to extend your running base. As long as you can truthfully say that you love to run, that is a good thing. Later, Paul

From Christi on Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 17:23:02

Hey Lybi! Sounds like you had a great (although sandy) run w/ the gals. It is wonderful how we've all met through this blog- looking forward to meeting Shauna now too.

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There.  A nice round fiver to get the week going in the right direction.  I MUST MUST MUST reach my goal of 30 miles this week even if I have to tether myself to the car and have James drive me around.  3rd try is the charm, right?  So far illness and injury have been getting in the way.  Means I need more sleep, probably.

You know what I've realized about sleep?  Sleep and eating are connected for me somehow.  If I get a really crummy night's sleep, I totally fall for the forbidden fruit (which resembles a candy bar more than fruit) the next day.  And then, if I eat crappy  (especially chocolate) I can't sleep, or WON'T just go to bed when I should.  Vicious cycle!  How do I get off?  Tonight I'm going to bed early, so hopefully tomorrow will be better. 

Can't believe how my life has changed since I started running.  I used to try to go to bed by 11:00, and I never could.  Now it is 8:45 and I'm ready to hit the hay.  I'll be snoozing in half an hour, with any luck.  Goodnight everyone!

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From sarah on Mon, Nov 05, 2007 at 23:31:38

so true so true....we are all skinny, tired and LOVE TO BLOG...right?

From Michelle on Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 00:23:42

Lybi, I think that you are really on to something. I've never really thought of it that way, but in thinking it through, it's very true! So I guess that if I work on sleep then some of the other falls into place with a little extra effort from me. I guess it's not all that easy but it does give us the upper hand!

From Brent on Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 12:34:32

Lybi, good to hear from you, 30 miles a week is a good goal. I would say don't worry about speed much when your building a base. I have been bumping my base up and have slowed down quite a bit. Not to worry, plenty of time for tempo, speed, etc. after your body adjusts to the higher mileage.

Take care, B of BS Rools out.

From Michael on Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 21:35:18

I agree with you on the sweets - sleep syndrome - if I dont get good sleep I do tend to eat more of the sweets and junk food. Im slowly improving trying to eat more fruit, honey, dates

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2.85 in the AM with Christine just a little under 10:00 pace. 

Then ran my son to and from school with the double jogging stroller at, like, 15:00 pace.  Does it still count when it is that slow?  I always tell my kids to just keep going, and if they are are tired to just slow down a little.   So we go majorly slow.

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From Michelle on Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 21:27:27

You are still putting in nice miles daily and not to mention doing a great upper body workout at the same time. I would't worry about the pace, just put in the miles and speed up when you have runs without the kids. (You know that I'm no expert, and just have to put my two cents in). Got the sock tonight, I hope it helps!

From crumpyb1 on Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 21:38:26

You are doing great! It totally counts.

From sarah on Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 22:12:01

Of course you made my favorite blog are like...THE BLOG to me. I don't think I would have gotten excited about it months ago as I did without a fun loving Lybi on there to cheer me on and up.

From Christi on Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 22:30:52

Yes! It counts! And look at you getting in over 5 miles today! You are rocking this week! BTW- I gotta tell you again- I LOVE my socks! I wear them all the time, esp. in the morning right when I get out of bed. Jim thinks they are really sexy (not!) Most of my floors are tile and chilly this time of year and they are so warm & cozy. Thanks again for the thoughtful gift!!

From Shauna on Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 23:58:44

Yes, it counts! I think it's great that you run with your kids! I counted the two miles when I had to walk the other weekend when I overheated and ran out of water!

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I set a new Lybi world record today--in the most miles run with a jogging stroller division.  Today was ALLLLL double jogging stroller miles.  1.25 miles were with only one kid, though (35 lbs.), which seemed deliciously effortless compared to both (at 75 lbs total).

I also ate extremely healthy food all day today.  Yea!  I don't think I ate a single thing today that Sasha wouldn't have eaten--other than nonfat milk.  (There really should be bonus points for drinking that watery stuff, btw.  Blech!)  Sometimes it takes me a while to get going on eating better, but once I start I'm good for a while.  So until Thanksgiving, I imagine I will be good to go.

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From laura on Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 21:42:08

Sweet!!! ... I mean ... Healthy!!! ;o)

Great running! Five miles with a stroller; unbelievable. Does that drive you crazy that you can't swing your arms? Are your arms strating to feel buff from pushing, jumping up to turn, and turning? I can only imagine!

From Lulu on Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 21:56:00

Yea Lybi! My husband and I were talking about what I would do when Bubbles got bigger. I said, continue to push her! When I went to the front door today after I got dressed, she was sitting in the stroller waiting for me! It is a precious time with them.

From Brent on Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 22:02:32

Lybi, Lulu, too cute, your kids will be marathoners some day. 50 commando points for each of your kids, young commando runners. love it.

Lybi, way to go, pushing my grandson 3 miles wore me out.

From Shauna on Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 22:07:46

Great job on the stroller and the healthy eating! The healthy eating is a daily struggle (I mean, habit), and the .5 miles in my life that I pushed a stroller (with a 10-pound baby) were tough!

From crumpyb1 on Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 23:17:56

Five miles with a double stroller? Now that's big time!

There is no reason for you to ever-ever think you are cheating on your runs. You have a "quadrupal" work out any time you push a double stroller. Way to get the miles in!

From sarah on Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 23:34:21

wow...ouch...what did you eat? I try to eat natural foods that I like and it really works pretty well..I mean as far as the balance between health and happiness. I refuse to eat healthy foods that I hate simply because they are "good for me". Remember that and you should do well with you healthy already do really well at the naturally so you shouldn't have far.

From Lybi on Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 11:00:17

Laura, it is a lot easier if I can push the stroller hard and then swing my arms for a few steps. Can't do that if we're going uphill, but that's what I try for on the flat and downhill. I've tried it pushing the whole time, and I've realized that it slows me down a lot and is..just...more annoying somehow.

Lulu, that is so cute about your little girl getting in the stroller. You are such a great role model for her!

Brent, Shauna, and Adrianne--thanks for the encouragement! It really helps!

Sarah, I ate stuff like oatmeal with honey, bean salad (with avocados!), bananas, homemade fried rice (made with olive oil) and an apple. Might have been some peanut butter in there too. I like all that stuff, especially the bean salad.

Is avocado considered "healthy" to you guys? I know it is relatively high in fat, but I've read that it is really healthy fat, and it is just SO DARN GOOD! Actually, if you don't think it's healthy, please don't tell me, because I don't want to have to give it up! :)

You might like this bean salad--it is tasty. Black beans and rice, sweet corn, diced tomato, diced avocado, onions (carmelized in olive oil), salt, lime juice, and salsa as a dressing. If I serve it to a guest I serve it with tortilla chips and add some ranch dressing.

From Shauna on Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 11:17:17

The bean salad sounds SOOOO good! I'll have to try it. And, don't worry, avocados are very good for you, even though they are high in fat. It's the good fat!

A great guacamole recipe: avocadoes (duh!), lots of cilantro, chopped onions, diced tomatoes (pico de gallo is easier than chopping up the last two), lots of fresh lime juice, dried cranberries (or pomegranate seeds, when in season), minced garlic, and chopped jalapeno if you like it spicy!

From sarah on Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 11:59:33

I think that bean salad sounds delicious..I love beans.

The only thing Sasha and I don't eat is: Red meat, white flour and white sugar. Everything else I think is a personal preference and so exciting because there is so much variety out there. Sasha doesn't like beans...I don't like nuts(too much...I like them sometimes but I prefer to get my protein from seeds, beans, dairy, meat and eggs.) Anyway, have fun experimenting with what you love, Sasha is really happy with honey, nuts, berries, dates, and I can't live off stuff like that...Everybody's body is different and they need to eat the healthy foods that they love. I could go on and on but basically what I'm saying is don't eat a cabbage broccoli salad if you don't feel like it. Give yourself some freedom to eat the healthy foods you love and enjoy it.

From Michelle on Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 12:06:06

Lybi the salad sounds great. I want more details like how much of all ingredients. Same for you too, Shauna, the guacamole sounds heavenly. That's the thing about guacamole though, what do you eat it with.... if your eating it with chips then you are getting a double wammy. The dip is high in calories, although good ones, but then you add in the chips and BANG just like that you've eaten a lot of calories! I guess some things are woth the sacrifice!

From Shauna on Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 12:06:08

Sarah, if you and Sasha don't eat white sugar, then you probably don't drink Gatorade during or after a run, right? Or eat energy gels? How do you and Sasha replenish your carbs right after a run? I started drinking 8-16 ounces of Gatorade within 5-10 minutes of any run over 30 minutes a few years ago, and it has made all the difference in my recovery.

From Sasha Pachev on Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 13:23:07

Lybi - good work this week.

Shauna - I drink Powerade and Gatorade, prefer Powerade. That would be the only exception for the no white sugar, and I do it only when I know my body is depleted.I will not eat a food that was designed for taste only,though. There is nothing wrong with white sugar in and of itself, but the problem is that most foods serve it without balance, and you never know once some white sugar was added that the food retains a proper balance. With the sports drinks, there was an attempt at least to create some form of balance. So just to be safe, I stay away from recreational foods with white sugar, fat, etc.

Lulu - we need some fat. In natural foods like avocado, the fat is presented to you in proper balance to where you cannot eat more than what is healthy for your body. The problems start when they serve you fat, especially animal fat, with numerous artificial taste enhancers that break your natural regulation mechanism. Also, there is a difference between animal fat, and vegetable fat. I can eat an avocado and run hard immediately with no consequences. With fatty red meat or butter, I would have to wait 3 hours at least, sometimes even that would not be enough, for me not to get a serious side ache if I tried to do the same.

From Lybi on Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 13:54:51

I volunteer to test the hypothesis that one can not eat too much avocado. You know, just for the sake of science. He he!

I had a friend once who would make guacamole and eat it with sliced cucumbers instead of chips. At the time I thought it was a little TOO health nut for me, but I am probably ready to try something like that now.

I've never heard of putting dried cranberries in guacamole! Wow! Sounds exotic!

As for the recipe for the black bean sald--you all need to pester James about that. I know I cooked up half a pound of black beans. That was my part of the job.

From Lulu on Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 14:34:06

Sasha says: "Lulu - we need some fat. In natural ..." How did I get brought into this? I love avocado, and Bubbles and I eat it nearly every day. It has the "good fats" (Monounsaturated fatty acids and polyunsaturated fatty acids) that I affectionately refer to as the MUFAs and the PUFAs (pronounced moofas and poofas). Very important for nervous system function! I am not known for eating low fat; that is for sure.

BTW, I never drink Gatorade, Powerade or any -ade except natural lemonade (sweetened with maple syrup - yum)! I use Hammer Nutrition products that have long-chain carbs (maltodextrin) that don't break down as quickly (read: insulin spike) and have a bit of natural sugars in them.

I am anxiously awaiting the bean salad recipe. Guac can be eaten with almost any vegetable. Celery, cucs, carrots, and got to love it on bell pepper! If you make big slices, they make a nice scoop.

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Oh!  Only 2 more days and 10 more miles and I will finally reach my mileage goal of 30, after trying and failing twice.  I'm gonna make it this time.  I can FEEL it!!!

So I am toying with the idea of eating a whole avocado right before I run tomorrow and seeing if it makes me yak.   Sasha says because it is "natural" and a vegetable source, I should be fine (trust me--he probably won't like that quote--but still).  Eating a whole avocado at once is not very natural behavior, so no points against Sasha science if I toss it.  But anyway, I'll need encouragement to try it--probably at least 5 comments.   And feel free to tell me NOT  to do it, because I hate yakking. 

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From Brent on Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 15:37:31

Wow, possible upchucking green stuff while on the run. You are a real runner, anything will be attempted for improvement. On the more serious side, moderation in change? Congrads on your dedication, the girl power of the blog is taking over. Go girls.

Syvlia suggested I sleep with the vacuum and make friends, ha ha.

From Lybi on Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 15:40:25

So that is a "no" vote, right? Sylvia won't care if you hate the vacuum as long as you do the dishes once in a while, I predict.

From Mik'L on Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 15:41:25

Why are you doing this? Did I miss that? I love avacados, but I wouldn't eat an entire one right before I ran. But then again, I don't usually eat anything before I run. You are TOTALLY going to make your mileage goal too!

From Michelle on Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 15:46:56

I agree with Mik'L, I love avacodos but usually hate things that I throw up for several months to come so I would be reluctant to risk hating the avacodo in the fututre. But then on the other hand you would be moving closer to a scientific question that needs answering? What to do....?

From Lulu on Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 16:18:33

I vote that you eat the green stuff. I don't think you will yak. I hate throwing up too. I have three avocados on my counter right now. If you do it, I will, right before my 17 miler. That said, I can eat anything right before a run. In fact, I have been known to eat my entire breakfast or a giant bagel turkey sandwich during the first mile of a run if I am running a bit late.

From Lybi on Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 16:43:17

I've said it before and I'll say it again; Lulu you are something else! Hahahaha! Love it.

From Heber on Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 16:56:34

Slice up the avocado and eat it on toast with slices of tomato. I like to sprinkle some italian dressing on for taste.

From Kim on Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 17:40:43

I'm with Mik'L, why do you want to try this experiment? I would be on the no vote! It seems to me that it could be a very ugly picture at some point! :D

From James W on Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 17:42:28

I know you are just waiting for this . . .


If you yak, I am going to make sure we have something with avocado in it every night the next week for dinner . . . J/K!

From Brent on Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 17:57:22

Lybi, if you try this feat, we need it recorded. Have James follow you with the camera so we can catch the upchucking for a nice blog picture or you can be written up in some running science journal if no upchuck. But, no commando points will be awarded for either result.

From Lybi on Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 22:39:09

Ok. I won't do it! James cut up the one avocado we had and put it in a pasta salad anyway. It was delicious!

From laura on Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 23:30:05

Hahahaha! Lybi, you're a hoot. Only you would put a yak session up for a vote! ;oP

Great job on your mileage! Get out there, chiquita, and kick some ... blacktop!

From Christi on Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 01:06:29

Wow- don't check the blog for a day and look at what I miss! All this healthy food talk is making me sick! LOL! Just kidding. I need everyone's good influence on me in this department. Look, I ran on a tummy full of pizza the other night, so I think you'd be OK w/ the avocado...BTW- I noticed your mileage is creeping up well over the 5 mile daily mark, before you know it you'll be up to 5.5, then 6, etc etc... WAY TO GO!!!!

From Lulu on Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 11:51:09

You are lucky I don't live near you. I would drop one of my avocados at your house. Then there is also the grocery store ...

Good job on your running!

From Lybi on Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 15:52:10

Hahaha! Science will have to wait, Lulu.

And thanks for the encouragement about my running everyone!

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9:50 ave. pace for my run with Christine.  Then ran my son to school.

One final mile alone in 9:55--just to get me above the prerequisite 5 a day.   Now I'm gonna stretch and go to bed early!

I read a talk by Joseph B. Wirthlin about the love of God today that really touched me.   Here's a little quote:

"Oh it is wonderful to know that our Heavenly Father loves us--even with all our flaws!  His love is such that even should we give up on ourselves, He never will.

We see ourselves in terms of yesterday and today.  Our Heavenly Father sees us is terms of forever.  Although we may settle for less, Heavenly Father won't, for he sees us as...we are capable of becoming."

This was given in a talk during which this tiny old man was shaking so bad I thought he was going to fall over.  I was distracted by this when he was speaking, so I didn't hear much of what he said.  But after reading it, I think I practically need to memorize his talk and internalize it.  

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From wheakory on Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 19:13:51

Late nights do cause you to drag when your body is tired or fatigue. The important thing is that you went out there and did it.

Sometime we don't think God loves us, but God created us in his prefect unique imagine and we are his children. We just need to have faith and believe in him and get in his presents in our prayers. That I believe increases your faith in him.

From Brent on Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 19:41:22

Lybi, read my blog about hotels at Moab, pass it on to others that may be running Moab. By the way, what will be your next attempt at eating and running? Just kidding, we are all looking for something healthy, and that will give us good energy for our runs.

Stay cool, B of BS Rools out

From Lybi on Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 22:13:32

Thanks Kory and Brent. You two are both on my short list of "nicest bloggers--male category".

From Christi on Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 23:10:09

Good job today! Thanks for that inspiring quote. My conference Ensign is still sitting in its wrapper. I think I'll find the motivation I've been lacking within it. Thanks for the reminder!

From Mik'L on Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 00:04:29

You are less than 5 miles away from your mileage goal! You can do it (tomorrow)! Nice quote too.

From Mik'L on Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 00:09:44

Are we blogging at the same time again? hehe

From Lybi on Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 00:12:24

No, I am in bed early, sleeping. Didn't you read my blog?

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I finally got to 30 miles in a week. Hooray!!! 30.7 to be exact.

Nice 5 miler today with Christine. Splits of 9:52, 9:56, 10:15, 9:37, 9:38. It felt pretty easy. The hardest part is the first little bit, when the whole run is is front of me.

Honestly, I am looking forward to just taking it easy the rest of the weekend. This last week I felt like I was constantly running. How the heck do some of you put in 2-3 times as much as this every week!?!

I think my body is holding up pretty well, but I do feel a little sore in my calves, quads, and gluts. I should probably hang out at 30 a week for the rest of this month to get used to it before increasing. Does that sound right?

By the way...if you are planning on doing the Canyonlands half marathon on March 8th, you better make your room reservations soon. There is info on Paul Peterson's blog from yesterday about cabins that sound really cool. There is also Moab Valley Inn, $107. a night, including tax.

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From Stacy on Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 14:16:33

Nice job! What's your next mileage goal?

From Christi on Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 14:59:24

Good job w/ mileage this week. I know what you mean about feeling like constantly running! Any fun Turkey Trots happening around you soon?

From Lybi on Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 16:04:46

Stacy my next goal is to do it (30) again! 2 more weeks at least. Sound boring? Sign me up.

Christi there is a great Turkey Trot here, but I'll be in North Carolina. That's going to be tricky just getting in the miles during that trip.

From Michael on Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 20:58:02

Way to run Lybi - great job in increasing your miles and being consistent. My miles go up/down like a yo-yo which probably isnt ideal for training

From Brent on Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 21:25:04

Lybi 30 miles is a good base, get use to it a few weeks before moving up, especially if your sore from the mileage. Sasha would likely have a take on your training. Good work. Some day, 5 miles will seem like nothing for you, just ask James. The awards thing today, sad event, they call out the 11 and under boys, first three, they all ran up to the person announcing, like they were going to get an award. It is one thing to disappoint adults, it is quite another to disappoint the kids. Stay Cool B of BS Rools out.

From Sasha Pachev on Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 23:07:50

Congratulations on being consistent. Yes, 30 miles a week is a healthy training volume for you right now, stay right there.

120/week feels like you are running all the time indeed, but it is a great feeling. That is what a human body is supposed to be doing. We have figured out how to produce more than enough for survival without much physical activity, which in and of itself would not be bad at all had this not led to creating a sedentary culture with sedentary expectations. So we believe the body is supposed to sit rather than run, and train it for sitting starting as early as school age, but this is not natural.

From laura on Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 23:17:07

Great job, Lybi!!!! Did you see that you're right next to James on the mileage board? How cool!

I'm bummed that I didn't get a chance to get out yesterday - that would've been finally 5 days in a row for me. Oh well. Next week - new goal! Luv ya. How did your Saturday cleaning go? Sorry I couldn't chat longer, but I'm glad I was able to get my run in!!

From James on Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 00:58:57

I think she was talking about your husband, but it was me that you were next to. Good job on the miles, I don't know about that .7 miles though. You should have rounded to 31 miles and been tied with me. Oh wait, I did run an extra .1 miles so I would still be ahead!

I don't know if I really look like Mills or not, but Paul agreed so it must be true.

From Lybi on Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 01:01:35

Doh! I better go out right now and run half a mile so I can keep up with the Billy Mills impersonator on my running blog...;)

From James on Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 01:06:17

I thought was reading "Cody mileage" when when I saw that 30.70098654329 on the mileage board!

From Jamie on Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 09:33:50

I just started playing the piano, from scratch, a couple of weeks ago and love it. I'm pretty patient and determined, when I want to be. Give me ten years and I'll have a glimpse of what you already know. I'm certain your encouragement and tips will help, if you feel so inclined...even though this is a running blog. By the way, happy running!

From Michael on Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 12:04:10

Speaking of Billy Mills, my kid (Falcon) is excited as Billy Mills will be the guest speaker at the ceremony for the kids National USATF championships in Kansas next month. He hopes to get his autograph which they said he will do - but I imagine a long line and its the night before the race so hope we have time

From laura on Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 22:27:43

Ooops. I didn't realize that "James" wasn't James W. ha, ha! Sorry James ... both of you. I didn't mean to mix you up.

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Three in the wee hours of too-early-to-truly-be-called morning. One with Holly, one alone, and one with the dog.

2 A couple of hours later with my sons in tow.

Happy Veteran's Day!

Since I'm sure you are all dying to know the ridiculous everyday adventures of my life, I will include an embarrassing story....

I have 2 rings that I wear on my left ring finger.  First, I have my beautiful wedding set, which is pretty, but not overly practical. After scratching my babies with the diamond a couple of times I decided I really wanted something less dangerous to show my marital status.  James kindly gave me a very nice ring with the center stone set down in a pressure setting for our 6th anniversary.  Very nice.  This is the ring I use for everyday.  It has 2 colors of gold and is so smooth and practical.  After missing this ring for a couple of days, I finally located the VACUUM cleaner!!! To say that it is smooshed is an understatement!  Completely crumpled, broken, and missing the center stone is more like it.  I cried.  I don't think I have a single possession that means as much to me as that ring--except my wedding ring.  For Christmas I have asked Santa to get my ring fixed--even if they have to melt it down and start from scratch!   So I have been wearing my fancy wedding ring since then. 

On my run today, I stopped to let the kids play in the park.  While I was watching them, I noticed some really strong sprinklers.  I had this FABULOUS idea to hold my beloved ring in its spray for a few seconds and let the water blast it sparkly-clean.   Who wants to wait for it to soak in one of those ring-cleaning thingies?   Well, my plan worked famously for about 1 second, after which I suddenly found myself...not...holding...onto a ring anymore.  It had shot off somewhere into the deep grass.  DOH!  I win the prize for stupidest way to dispatched several of my prized possessions within a 3 day time frame.  Don't be too alarmed, though.  I located my wedding set within 5 min., but I had to get pretty wet to do it.  Ha ha.

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From Bethany on Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 23:17:35

Oh Lybi! What a story! I cant even glad you found your wedding ring...the sprinklers...seriously?!

I did have mine cleaned by a jewler once and their high pressure machine knocked out a couple diamonds. (they replaced them) last time i ever did that! Beware!

Anyway, nice way to get in five miles- is it easier breaking it up into chunks like that?

From Lybi on Mon, Nov 12, 2007 at 23:32:22

It is the only way for me. I only have about 25-35 min. that I can run alone before James goes to work. But I do think it is easier physically. Less convenient, though. (Getting dressed, showering couple times a day blah blah.)

From Aaron on Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 00:36:44

This verse was written just for you:

From Lybi on Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 20:48:39

Thanks Aaron. Beautiful verse.

From Lulu on Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 22:20:37

LOL! You kill me! Glad you found your wedding set!

From Shauna on Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 23:49:00

Ha! Great job on the wedding ring relocation! I clean mine with toothpaste and a toothbrush between cleanings!

From christi on Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 19:29:42

Lybi- Always LOVE your stories. Still think you need to take up professional writing. GREAT job this week!

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Ran 3 this morning with Christine after a HORRIBLE night's sleep. I was in bed by 10, but I didn't get to sleep until around 2:30 am. (My kids are sick.) But my respect for Christine is such that I bounded out of bed at 5:30 to run with her. I have never ever missed a run with her. That's pretty good for me!

Now I am dragging badly...but I finally got those last 2 in.  Goodnight!

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From crumpyb1 on Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 21:29:32

I hope you were able to get the last 2 miles in.

I am sorry to hear about your everyday ring. I bet Santa will fix it. And I am so glad you were able to find your wedding ring. Phew!

From Mik'L on Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 23:05:43

I can just picture you on that ring story...classic. Glad you got it back! Good job getting out today after the bad night...that's dedication!

From josse on Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 16:53:16

I have decided not to run Moab, it's to hard to say if I will be able to leave at that time of year. sorry josse

From Lybi on Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 22:32:12

Oh man! Sorry to hear that Josse! Well, I'm sure we'll meet sometime. Are you planning on doing St. George this coming year?

From josse on Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 00:53:16

Yes, I have a garentee because I canceled my number this year.

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5K in the morning at 9:59 pace on average.  (Much better than 10:00 pace, doncha think?)

1.9 more miles this evening with my boys.  Sssslow!

My little 5 year old is having oral surgery tomorrow.  Nothing serious or dangerous, but I always feel a little scared when he has to be anesthisized.  Ug.  Here we go again.... Prayers appreciated.

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From Dennis on Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 22:45:46

Thanks for the welcome! First marathon was 2:38...but it was a painful 2:38. I hit the half in about 1:13 and I try to forget the second half most days...

From Dennis on Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 22:47:05

Oh...and I just write music for fun too. I'm sort of trying to produce the CD myself, but it's a very slow ordeal. I just enjoy the process.

From Michelle on Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 22:48:26

Hope all goes well tomorrow with little one! I undertand the anxiety it causes! Your doing great with the mileage

From Michelle on Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 22:52:18

OH! I almost forgot, registration begins tomorrow so I'll get that going...First name was what again? Fast running bloggers anonymous?

From Kim on Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 23:07:23

Prayers are sent your way!

I want in on the Moab registration. I'll keep an eye on Michelle's blog to see what we need to do.

From Lybi on Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 00:30:40

Thanks guys.

Dennis, anyone who is not in pain after running a 2:38 1st marathon must be bionic. It is an amazing time--you clearly have a lot of potential.

Michelle, ya that's the name. Kind of long, huh? You can change it if you want. Dah! I'm feeling really indecisive. "Team FBR" would be good too. I'm excited to register, although the thought of this half is filling me with a peculiar sense of dread. I really want to do well, but I don't know what I'm doing yet.

Thanks Kim! I'll change my blog title after I've registered.

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2.85 miles in the morning with Christine in 27:52.   Felt a bit brisk. 

2.2 miles tonight alone.

Harrowing day--Joey's oral surgery went well.  He really is a stinker when he is coming out of anesthesia, though.  Croaking and screaming.  What a nightmare!  I was so frazzled tonight I REALLY wanted to skip my evening run.  So I was so surprised to see how much better it made me feel.  It is a cool night--fresh from a recent rain and so invigorating.  Why is it that we (I) tend to resist what really will help us (me) feel better?

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From Shauna on Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 00:04:19

What rain?!?!? It's dry as a bone in central Phoenix! Glad the surgery went well and that you met your goal for the day!

From Lybi on Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 00:11:06

There is thunder and lightning and light rain. It's been off and on all day. You haven't had any? Weird, but I'll take rain under any circumstances!

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Register for the Canyonlands Half! 

Here is a link:

  • Click on "search for your group"
  • Search for "fastrunning bloggers anonymous" 
  • Click on "join group"
  • Accept the release
  • Enter all your info, and you're done! 

6 people per group, so there are only 2 more spots in the 1st group.  If you want to join and it is all filled up, comment on Michelle's blog.  She'll create another group just for bloggers if we need one. 

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From Michelle on Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 09:53:58

Your dedication is amazing, you finished your miles yesterday even after kid trauma... I'm impressed !*! (I didn't fininsh my run yesterday after complete laziness :(

But I'm glad you got all signed up, I can't wait for us all to get together again and this should add some spice to my training... if not I don't know what will? I think the sock is helping the foot, thanks again!!!

Oh and looking forward to this half will help the cold winter go by faster because come run time we should be out of the worst of it! yea!! (this has all kinds of perks!)

Last but not least... did you get a room arranged? I checked into some stuff down there and some of the hotels aren't even taking reservations till late Dec-Jan. I changed my mind on the cabins because I'll probably have a family in tow,but I got a room at the Ramda it's pricey ($149) a night with 2 night mininmum but I can cancel up untill 24 hours before and I'm going to keep looking for something cheeper or better suited in the meantime. I think I like the idea of staying 2 nights though, make a mini vacation out of it and relax Sat. afternoon and go to dinner that evening or something. It would be fun if anyone wanted to stick around and do that? O'well enough of my rantings for one day... Have a good Friday and great WEEKEND!

From christi on Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 14:07:32

I registered!!! Heather is registering too- then our group will be full. Bummer- I thought the groups were 10 each. I hope we ALL get in! I don't have a clue what I'm doing about a room or anything yet. The Ramada sounds OK to me, I need to look into it today! We are supposed to go to Disney the week following the race (kids are out of school that next week) So I may just be in town for a day or 2 then onto DL. When I figure it out I'll let you know. In the meantime, I'm excited!! Like Michelle said- this should add some spice to training. Can't wait to hang out w/ you girls again!

From Lybi on Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 17:25:59

Yea Christi! This time we'll have to paint our toenails. (If nothing else, it will cover up the ones that have turned black...)

I do not have a room arranged. To tell the truth I am still blundering around in indecision about whether I'm coming alone or with the whole family. Is there anything fun for little kids to do in Moab?

And Michelle--thanks for setting up the group. I am very excited to be training for this with you. Nothing gets me out the door like the spectre of a looming half marathon. Do you realize I've never done a race longer than 4.2 miles?!

From Mik'L on Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 20:28:18

Good job getting out yesterday Lybi with everything you had going on. No run today? ;)

I guess I'm not in the "cool" group but that's okay. :) Clyde is still trying to get comped in so I'm not sure how I'll register yet. Hopefully we will just all get in regardless!

From Lybi on Sat, Nov 17, 2007 at 12:14:58

Mik'L you are in the "cool" group by definition.

Paul Peterson said almost everyone gets in, so you should be fine! Otherwise we can at least egg the race directors house! JK.

From laura on Sat, Nov 17, 2007 at 15:42:54

"Harrowing day" is actually quite an understatement! You were a trooper, little mommy! And Joey deserves a huge amount of commando points for being so brave on such a tough day. You've had to do toooo many surgeries in your little family, Lybi! I'm so sorry.

I'm amazed beyond belief that you ran yesterday morning AND evening! It makes me feel even more like a slacker that I didn't exercise at ALL while Mike was gone this week. Doh! You're awesome, though!!!!!

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Yea!  I cashed in most of my commando points today for my BEST running high ever: my first 6 miler since I've started running again. 

I took it out nice and slow.  I never really looked at my pace--just tried to run easy.  I haven't run over 3 miles at once by myself for a long time, so I thought it would be hard.  Here's the wierd part-it was hard and slightly aggravating the first 3 or 4 miles, but it just seemed to get better from there.  I was still feeling really fresh around 4.7 miles so I decided to pick it up a little.  It felt soooo good.  Up until today, I don't think I've EVER understood why Sasha says sometimes says that he just didn't want to slow down.  How could you not want to slow down?  That's like saying you don't want to open your birthday presents or something--or so I thought.  So I was bopping along at a slightly faster pace, but when I looked down at my Garmin, it said I was going 2:00 a mile faster.  Wow!  I wasn't even breathing faster or anything.  It didn't even FEEL harder.  It just felt good!  I've felt like I was on death's door  going slower than that in races!  I could've gone another 2 miles, I know it!  But I promised James that I wouldn't be gone longer than an hour, so I brought her in.  But this helped to revive my enthusiasm for running, so I am happy.

59:19 for 6 miles.  Splits of 10:02, 10:14, 10:20, 10:29, 9:50, 8:21.

Oh yeah, and I had someone yell a swear word at me out the window of a car.  That's a first.  Plus, I almost got creamed by a motorcycle.  Don't pedestrians have the right of way when the sidewalk crosses a parking lot entrance?

And one other thing...I met Abdi Abdirahman today at James' race.  (Remember he is based in Tuscon.  He wasn't running--he was just there for publicity.)  He looked just like he did on TV only skinnier.  It would take a whole passle of scientists to figure out how in the heck that man keeps his jeans from falling to his feet.  But he was really nice, and confirmed that he does, in fact, eat liver for breakfast every morning.  Now THAT is dedication.  (Urp.)   I thought about asking him to join the fastrunning blog, but I lost my nerve.  Ha ha. :)

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From Sylvie on Sat, Nov 17, 2007 at 22:58:02

Wow what a day! Wish I had such a fun one. Now I want to cash in my commando points.

From Brent on Sat, Nov 17, 2007 at 23:02:43

Lybi, one of the best descriptions of runners high ever. I am so happy for you. I am sure you will earn a gazillion commando points in the years to come. Real Runner yes, real person yes, Stay Cool, B of BS Rools out.

From Michelle on Sat, Nov 17, 2007 at 23:29:32

Lybi, Sounds like the run today was awesome! Yesterday I got a peice of what you are talking about too! I don't know if I ever got going that fast but when I really got going it felt pretty good! I am a little worried about the half though... Christi is logging some super speedy times and now you? I might need to step down to the five and come in together!

From Lybi on Sat, Nov 17, 2007 at 23:30:50

Ha ha, Michelle!

From Tom on Sat, Nov 17, 2007 at 23:35:18

Lybi congrats on the great run, like Brent said I think you caught the spirit of the runners high pretty well.

Oh hey and way to get your first swear word! Maybe next you'll be as lucky as I've been in the past and get a few more surprises like getting intentionally splashed, "bird-ed", people shouting trying to startle you or throwing a drink on you. Seem like there's a lot of road rage out there and runners are a favorite victim. Maybe we should assign commando point values for all this various types of insults.

Hey James sure did great on his race today!

From Bethany on Sat, Nov 17, 2007 at 23:40:40

What an inspiration. If that isnt something to work for, I dont know what is. Nice way to cash em in Lybi! You deserve it.

From Christi on Sun, Nov 18, 2007 at 10:51:26

Lybi-The description of your run makes me want to go out and run! Good for you having such a GREAT run! (well, except for the getting yelled at parts...) Saturday when our little group ran we got honked at like 3 times and I'm pretty sure it was just to startle us- obnoxious!

Michelle- I think YOU, Lybi & Mik'l are the speedy ones!

From Clay on Sun, Nov 18, 2007 at 11:33:26

Great job on the awesome run Lybi, running can make you feel so great and then so rotton all at the same time, its a crazy sport...

And as far as the public is concerned, I once had a lady pull up along side me and lecture me on how running should be done on track and not out on the road, I thought she was kidding at first. When I found out she was serious I gave her a piece of my mind, if you now what I mean, some people just don't get it.

Keep up the good work...

From Lybi on Sun, Nov 18, 2007 at 11:59:45

Clay, you are so awesome! I hate confrontations. I thought about saying something like "Well, you smell like a dead donkey! And your momma wears combat boots!" That would've showed him. But yeah, it bites that some people think running should be kept away from the general public.

PS Michelle you are fast. Just be careful--don't try to prove that while you are recovering from injury. And Christi, YOU are the only one of the 4 of us that has run a marathon--and in very good time, too, for goodness sakes.

From Michael on Sun, Nov 18, 2007 at 20:42:30

Way to go Lybi, congrats on the 6 miles, Im going to have to increase my miles to keep up with you. Sounds like you had a great day

From Shauna on Sun, Nov 18, 2007 at 23:34:13

Great job! Isn't the runner's high the best?! And, yes, I think you are right about having the right of way when crossing a driveway. It's amazing (and scary!) how many drivers don't even look both ways before they turn. I am sure we are all perfect drivers, right?

Anyway, your run has re-motivated me after a sag in motivation last week-thanks!!

From wheakory on Mon, Nov 19, 2007 at 11:44:47

Great job on your high mile run that's excellent. Sometimes when you run faster the effort is easy. It could be do to rest the right diet, but it does feel great. I'm happy for you.

From Lybi on Mon, Nov 19, 2007 at 12:48:21

Thanks, Michael, Shauna and Kory! You know how to boost the ol' morale. :) :)

From Sasha Pachev on Mon, Nov 19, 2007 at 13:00:44

Glad to see that the mileage is finally starting to bring fruit. If you can find a reasonable 5 K some time in the near future, jump in and race it to see what you can do. Do not taper for it, though. I think you can pull off a sub-25:00.

Interestingly enough, I do not remember the last time I've heard a swear word yelled at me from a car. But I live in Provo, and run mostly on trails.

From Lybi on Tue, Nov 20, 2007 at 21:55:50

Sasha, thanks for the vote of confidence! Sub 25:00 would have me dancing on the ceiling. :) I'll look for a race ASAP!

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5 Miles at 9:52 pace on average.  (There was a 3 hour break between miles 3 and 4, though.)   I'm off to North Carolina for the week!  Not sure how much I'll be able to blog, but I hope hope hope I will still get in all my miles this week.  I am a little impatient to move to running 5 1/2 or 6 miles a day.  I am having delusions of grandeur about the Moab half in March.  :)  Happy Thanksgiving!  I am grateful for you guys!!!

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From jtshad on Mon, Nov 19, 2007 at 13:19:31

Have a great vacation in NC and happy Thanksgiving.

From Sasha Pachev on Mon, Nov 19, 2007 at 13:21:54

I think you are ready to do 6 a day when feeling up to it, otherwise 5.

From Michelle on Mon, Nov 19, 2007 at 16:13:51

Lybi, have a great time in NC! I hope you get some great new runs in... always fun t run in a new place! But most of all have fun visiting the fam and enjoy the TURKEY! :)

From Brent on Mon, Nov 19, 2007 at 19:11:05

Lybi, what are the rest of us bloggers going to do with you off line? Take care, happy Turkey Day. My thought about moving up mileage, just watch the aches and pains closely.

From steve ashbaker on Mon, Nov 19, 2007 at 20:02:20

No excuses eh..

From Shauna on Mon, Nov 19, 2007 at 22:06:31

Have a safe trip and Happy Thanksgiving! And, I think you will be more than ready for the Moab half in March. When you feel ready, just start increasing your Saturday run by a mile. With your base, you would easily be able to complete a half marathon with one 10-miler. But you have plenty of time to build up your fitness to some 12-milers and run a great race.

From sarah on Mon, Nov 19, 2007 at 23:09:20

I think you'll do great on the'll have friends there and it will be fun. Halfs are only slightly longer than 10 milers which happen to be my personal favorite. :)

From Clay on Tue, Nov 20, 2007 at 00:49:11

This will be a very boring week without your inspiration, I think you are ready for 6 miles, and take care of James over the Holiday...

From Christi on Tue, Nov 20, 2007 at 16:31:43

I LOVE North Carolina- you know I was born there right? (ha ha, I know I've told ya..) Enjoy it! And hey- I agree w/ Shauna- I would increase a few of your weekly runs first, before you demand 6 from yourself everyday. But heh- you know I'm not the expert on consistency! (LOL!) HAPPY THANKSGIVING!

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I ran with my much faster hubby James today in North Carolina.  The whole route was rolling hills.  I feel humbled!  I am so used to training on mostly or completely flat surfaces.  My breathing was still fine but my legs were spent after...oh jeez, couldn't have been more thas a mile.  (But there were a lot of really steep hills in that mile!)  So James started letting me hang onto his shirt on the uphills.  Then he would do a fartlek up to the top--dragging me behind him like a short blonde caboose.   It was classic.

Even though I really enjoy hanging (sometimes literally) with James on runs, it is a little depressing, because he has a very effortless stride, and I always feel a little pathetic running next to him.  But isn't he a sweetie to drag me along?

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From Lulu on Tue, Nov 20, 2007 at 23:16:48

I am so glad you are posting this week! Enjoy your adventure in NC. I can't wait to hear about it. Happy Thanksgiving.

From sarah on Tue, Nov 20, 2007 at 23:17:23

Sasha has wanted a harness device for years that he could hook up to me and drag me to help his training....I think all of us wives of running men understand that gap we can't bridge no matter how hard we try. Hope you are having a lovely trip. North Carolina sounds like fun!

From laura on Wed, Nov 21, 2007 at 09:25:43

That sounds awesome!! (Hee,hee) I'm glad you made it there safely! Any airport adventures (or mishaps)? Hopefully not.

If you want a workout for your lungs, you can always come here!!! ;o) I'm impressed you still did 5 miles even with hills. Good luck this week - you'll come home in even better shape!

From smanitor on Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 09:33:49

Thanks, I'm going to need luck on my 5k... I've only been running for a little over a month. I love it, but I still find it difficult to run a mile without stopping... we've gotta start somewhere, right?

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Run in North Carolina surrounded by trees in splendid color.  The hills here are REALLY steep and plentiful.

1st-14:26 with my little boy

2nd-11:46  I am feeling wimpy over the hills

3rd-11:32  Trying not to die

4th-10:09  I finally get in a groove and it's all over

I was going to run another mile later with my other son, but we didn't geta chance.    My shins were pretty sore from clomping my way down all these steep hills.

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5 Miles in NC untimed.  Beautiful landscape.  Happy Thanksgiving!

James took 1st in his age division at his race today.  GOOO JAMES!

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5 miler in the morning.  11:02 ave. pace.  That's at least a min. per mile slower than a typical run for me. These hills are really kicking my hiny!  Now I realize that I am a definite flat-lander.  What am I going to do?  The Moab half is rolling!  Dread.  I'm going to have to find a freeway ramp and run up and down it a million times once a week or something.

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We got home from NC last night at 1:30 am(!)  Good to be back, and nice to have some down time with the fam. before jumping back into our normal routine.  Here are some quick stats about our North Carolina trip:

No. of days I ran-5 (100%)

No. of hills that kicked my butt while we were there: 1,826,927 (estimate)

No. of pounds gained: 3 (blush!)

No. of falling leaves I caught in my hand while running-1

Ave. pace slow down due to very steep rolling hills-1 min. a mile

How many times more beautiful the Autumn leaves are in NC compared to Arizona-8 (at least)

Number of HUMONGOUS falling tree limbs that almost squashed me during a nature walk-1

Well, I had a GREAT run today!!!  I wanted to duplicate that great runner's high I got last Sat., so I did the same basic stats--5 miles slow and then a tempo mile.  All without any kind of refueling or rest stops.

Mile splits: 10:08 (headwind), 9:54, 9:38 (tailwind), 9:32 (tailwind), 10:09, and (here is the mile I am really proud of) 7:51.  That's 29 seconds faster than my tempo mile last week!  Yipee!  I think I could have cranked out at least one more sub 9:00 mile.  I feel fine right now.  I'm super stoked that I still had gas in the tank after 5 miles.  5 used to completely wipe me out.  Progress feels good.   As an added bonus, I had a perfect mileage week at 30 during a trip.  Take that, Ashman!  How could you doubt? :)

I'm going to get a foul for excessive celebration one of these days...


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From Brent on Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 17:44:07

Commando points, 10 for running every day while on a trip and 5 for fast happy feet. Your consistency is really showing. Good Work. Did you wonder how the Cival War was fought back in that area, you can't see more than 100 yards ahead because of all the rolling hills.

From Daniel on Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 18:13:09

Way to get out and run while away from home. I always find it hard to get out and run while on a trip. Excellent job on the tempo!

From Mik'L on Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 18:36:00

Good job Lybi! I'm still trying to find the energy to get out today :( Good job running all week and way to go on the quick tempo mile!

From Lulu on Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 23:41:17

I bet that 3 pounds comes off in less than a half a week. I think it is from the flight, ie. H2O retention. Remember, I am the Queen of Retention right now. Don't stress about that. Good job running, Girl!

From Christi on Sun, Nov 25, 2007 at 10:29:46

3 lbs? Me too! Yes- BYU DOES RULE! EXCELLENT job keeping up your miles this week! My mind took a glutinous vacation and shopped & slept all week! I'm still jealous that you went to NC- I was there last April and can't wait to go back. I secretly hope that's where Jim gets into grad school. Anyway- I'm curious to see what Mik'l puts in her Dixie Salad. The friendly lady in line at Walmart told me: fresh whipped cream, bananas, walnuts, mini marshmallows, pomagranate seeds, apples. I had no idea how much of each to throw in or how much or what she used to sweeten the whipped cream. It was OK- I don't think I did it justice and I'd like to try it again next year w/ a real recipe.

From Lybi on Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 00:14:39

Brent, I have to admit the Civil War never crossed my mind while I was there. What the heck is wrong with me?

Daniel and Mik'L, thanks for the boost!

Lulu, you always know what to say to make me smile! I hope you are right. Just water. The chocolate and stuffing and gravy and pie and ice cream and[various goodies here]...have nothing to do with it!

Christi, you are right! NC is GORGEOUS! Amazing color this time of year. Nice weather, nice landscape. That "salad" sounds too good to actually be a salad. Basically anything with whipped cream in it is yummy, I've found. And recipes are so over-rated. First, you have to walk way over to get it, then you have to keep looking at it and measuring. Bah! Give me a good experiment anytime. :)

From James W on Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 00:18:13

You can see why I usually end up doing the cooking...

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2.5 Miles this morning alone

1.25 running my 7 year-old to school.

I was looking at my monthly mileage last night. Check this out:





Nov. I am scheduled to be over 120 if I have a perfect mileage week this week.

So I've almost tripled my mileage in 5 months! I want to be up to 40 miles a week (160 miles a month) by February. So Dec. better be close to 140, I guess.


PM Ran 1.25 to get my son from school. I was running late, so I had to BOOK it!  Fastest half mile I've run in a while, although I didn't have the Garmin.  I was tired running back, and wouldn't you know it--I fell. Not a dainty little trip where I catch myself halfway down--I was all splayed out on the sidewalk like roadkill!  And right in front of the school too...all those witnesses!   *Blush*

Bedtime: 9:45

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From Tom on Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 11:35:18

Lybi nice job on the mileage! I think those high school records are going DOWN in 2008!

From josse on Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 11:37:57

Great job on the mileage. Keep it up and you will be training for a marathon before you know it.

From Kim on Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 12:31:13

Lybi, You are such an awesome little blond caboose! (Sorry, I was thinking of James pulling you up those hills a few days ago.) Way to up the mileage! I never would have imagined it was good and enjoyable to run pretty much everyday. Can't wait to see that 120! Keep on keepin' on!

From Christi on Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 13:33:38

Thanks for the motivation!!! You are doing awesome, hope I can catch up w/ you during the half at Moab!!

From laura on Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 15:31:16

Sweeeet! Nice running, Lyb. I love to see your persistence - it's very motivating! Luv ya!

From Wildbull on Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 15:58:48

Way to go girl!

From Brent on Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 18:00:19

Lybi, St.George 2008 is in your future.

From Lybi on Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 18:08:06

Tom, that is my fondest hope! I don't know why, but I have an insane desire to be faster at age 30 than I was at 17.

Thanks Josse, Kim, Christi, and Laura!

And WILDBULL!!!! So good to see you! Thanks for dropping by and don't be a stranger, ok?

From Lybi on Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 18:08:58

Hey Brent--you caught me in a moment of weakness...BRING IT ON!

From Shauna on Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 21:32:05

Great job on the increased mileage! You rock!

From Brent on Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 21:39:50

Lybi, we want more about the fall, how fast were you back on your feet and running? Did you yell I planned that? Did you cry or do any other crazy gestures. This may be worth some commando points. Falling should be embelished as with catching the big fish. No good fall comes without a good story.

From Bethany on Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 21:53:46

Nice mileage Lybi! Way to go!!!! You truly are an inspiration. Hope the fall didnt leave any lasting marks on you (other than embarassment...:) Im sure anyone who saw has forgotten it by now.

From Clay on Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 22:47:26

Im sure the fall was done with dignity and class, as only you could do Lybi...

I hope you are all right though, nice job on the mileage too.

From marciej on Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 23:05:10

Awesome on the mileage, that is so cool to see the miles go up. You will definetley get to where you want to be with the great attitude and determination you have! Sorry about your fall. We all have to get a few good ones in:)(I have supermanned it twice in a one week!)

From Lybi on Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 23:32:25

Not a very glamorous fall, but here are the gory details...

I was jogging ridiculously slow and relaxed, and I just halfway stepped off the sidewalk and my ankle totally rolled sideways. As I fell, I was thinking "That's weird, usually there is a muscle that keeps that from happening." Well, if there is a muscle for stabilizing that joint, it was definitely on vacation today. Anyway, I caught myself with my knee, which is moderately skinned, and my left hand which is mildly skinned. Who needs skin there anyway? Skin is for sissies! But, like a Nascar crash, I continued falling until I somehow ended up laying on the ground. What can you do? I actually laid there for about 30 seconds, trying to blend into the pavement and postpone facing the horders of parents and teachers witnessing my embarrassment. After a little while my little 7 year old was like "Um, Mom...what are you doing?" Rather than try to come up with a logical response, I just burst out laughing and sheepishly made my way home at an even slower pace.

I'm not hurt, just humiliated. :)

From Michelle on Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 09:49:59

Oh Lybi, Owchhhh!!! I'm sure you did it with grace like everything else that you do!

From Michael on Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 10:09:19

Take advantage of the Arizona winter weather for your mileage.

Why stop at 140, why not triple it again in 5 months - 360 miles by April

From Christi on Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 10:35:52

Well- my Dad didn't call me "Grace" growing up for nothin'! I'm pretty sure a fall is all part of the runner lifestyle. I've fallen a couple times- I always feel really cool afterwards (NOT!) Its bound to happen with all those miles you're logging. This might be good for your relationship with all those parents & teachers- they were starting to really despise your fitness, now you are back down to SUPERMOM level, not super goddess! Glad you're not hurt!!!

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3.5 miles with Christine. 9:58 ave. pace. I struggled a little this morning. My knee aches a bit from yesterday's...ahem...event, which does NOT bear repeating. I hope I didn't damage anything. This is what happens when you count your goose eggs before they hatch (into 5's and 6's).

I am skipping my run tonight because of my knee, which feels a little worse.

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From Jody on Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 11:50:16

Great job getting back out. I have only fallen once but it took me a long time to get back out and I still do not like to run on that street.

From wheakory on Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 11:54:18

Nice run. I would ice the knee and take a pain reliever and see if that helps.

From James W on Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 12:34:33

LOL! I love the new picture. Just take it easy for the next couple days, I agree with the ice, and you should be fine. Keep up the good work.

From Brent on Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 12:35:00

Lybi, no worry, just run a longer run later in the week, 8 to 10 miler. It seems you are ready to give it a try. Sorry, no commando points for the fall, hope you recover quickly. Michael kind of has some fuzzy math on how fast to increase mileage.

From laura on Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 18:52:25

Well, apparently I felt sorry for your fall yesterday, because this morning I fell down the stairs!!! Ugh. I'm SURE I didn't earn any commando points either because I just sat there and assessed the damage before I even started moving. It hurt my left foot and my left upper back.

I'm sorry to hear your knee is hurting you today - it's so unfair! You're on such a roll, and I can't imagine you giving up your mileage goal on the last few days! Good luck, but take it easy.

From Mik'L on Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 19:08:07

Wow you fell so hard you got old! That's scary. ;) Good job gettin back out there.

From Lybi on Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 19:18:53

Mik'L you always say my picture doesn't look like me. I just can't seem to please you! ;) So sorry you've been sick, get better!

Laura, that is taking sympathy TOO far! Sorry--first the fall and then your painful Dr. appt. You deserve a big treat. Go tell Mike I said so.

Brent, 10 miles? What the whoowie-hay you thinkin! No wait, maybe....eventually... Knee permitting.

Thanks James, Kory and Jody!

From Christi on Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 00:27:33

You have me doubled over with that picture!!! Too funny!

From Shauna on Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 00:32:33

LOL! Love the picture!

From Jody on Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 09:28:47


Thanks for the invite for Moab. I am interested but my husbands schedule is a little iffy. He is a sports writer for the Deseret News and covers Utah State basketball. They usually have their conference tourney that week so I will have to see. It would be a lot of fun!

From KIm on Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 17:30:32

The new picture finally shows up on my computer. I was wondering what everyone was talking about...."I've fallen and I can't get up!"

From Jody on Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 17:45:59

I just finally saw the new picture - Thanks for the laugh and brightening my day!

From laura on Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 19:03:17

Ahh! Finally I can see the new picture too. Hee,hee

From Michelle on Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 20:29:27

Oh Lybi, only you!!! Your the best! Although that photo hits a little close to home, in my profession that is never a good sight!! (he,he!!!)

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One more rest day for my knee, I guess.  Tomorrow I am definitely getting back out there, though.  I went to the chiro today and it is feeling much better.

PS I am in the depths of despair.  No not really, but I AM slightly down.  I wonder if this has anything to do with hearing my alarm go off every ten minutes from 5:20 am to 7:00 am this morning (new Lybi world record for how many times I've hit the snooze button btw).  I'm going to bed!

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3 Miles with the double jogger at a nice and easy (slug's) pace. My knee felt pretty good. I think I'm ready to get back to training as usual. I wanted to run a race this weekend, but I am not finding one that is not ridiculously far away or at a time I can go. But hopefully next weekend!

 Another run with the jogging stroller after lunch just to help my little boy fall asleep for his nap.  It took 2.23 miles to get the job done.   Better than the 15-20 min. of driving I usually do!

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From Christi on Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 22:48:59

I'm sure you're just feeling "off" from not running today. Don't be so hard on yourself- you're recovering after all... (I mean look at you in that pic, you could use some R & R!)j/k. You'll be back at it in no time (next time don't set the alarm!)

From Clay on Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 22:55:12

Lybi, we as runners tend to look to much at the short term as opposed to the long term. We run for the long term, and for a healthier life style so give yourelf a break and don't take it to seriously... Great Picture, it made me think of you crashing, in a caring way of course..

From Lybi on Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 23:00:06

This picture is a good representation of what is going to happen to me when I am in a rest home and still trying to get my 5 a day in.

By the way, Christi and Clay are responding to my Wed. entry, which I had accidentally put on Thurs.

From sarah on Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 23:31:43

Where did you find that picture you nut!! Check out Sasha's blog from Tuesday for a good laugh...

So sorry about the fall.

From steve ashbaker on Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 23:39:43

Thanks for the offer Lybi, but I have to decline and regale you and James another time. I also want to be at the top of my game when the circuit begins. Feel better soon so you can get back in the game. I like the med-alert pic. I can imagine us racing racing each other with our walkers at a FRB reunion! Corny I know, but possibly true knowing how hard core we are as runners on this blog eh?

From Lybi on Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 23:46:13

Sarah--I almost fell out of my chair watching Sasha as an elf. His facial expression--although completely understandable at the end of a marathon--makes him look like one lewd elf. Tee-hee.

Steve, I'm sure Sasha and many others here will still be racing in their 90's, at least. Thank goodness for Depends, no more need for those time wasting VPB stops, eh?

From Lybi on Thu, Nov 29, 2007 at 11:16:36

Oh geez, I wish I could edit that last comment to say Sasha looks like one "ludicrous" elf. Got my words confused.

AND I would delete the part about the depends and VPB.

From wheakory on Thu, Nov 29, 2007 at 11:50:16

Nice work out and I'm glad your knee is doing better. It shows your dedication wanting to race this weekend. I have the same frustration trying to find a race that's not too far away.

From Shauna on Thu, Nov 29, 2007 at 12:21:24

Lybi, what about the 4-mile Luminaria Run this Saturday evening? Although, Cave Creek is probably quite a haul for you! I'm thinking about running it. i've never done that race before.

It's supposed to rain here all weekend (2-3 inches!). Great for the drought, but not the running!

From Lybi on Thu, Nov 29, 2007 at 15:27:50

Ya, I saw that run, Shauna. I would've done it if it was a 5K. I really like trying to beat my last time for 5K's.

I LOVE running in the rain! Bring it on.

From laura on Thu, Nov 29, 2007 at 18:52:39

I'm glad your knee was feeling good enough to get out today! I'm sorry you were bummed yesterday. You should've called me! I had Cami's IEP yesterday and was in a mood to complain! Three people called her "stubborn" with a smirk - in the middle of the IEP! Not nice, in my book.

From Michelle on Thu, Nov 29, 2007 at 19:19:42

Sounds like your "BOUNCING" back very well!! Just a little "BUMP" in the road.... You will be back to your speedy little self in no time!!!! ( You've really got me worried for Moab, I sure hope there is someone that I can keep up with to pass the miles with!) I think that it's running with that jogging stroller that is making you a super woman!!!

From Christi on Thu, Nov 29, 2007 at 21:06:38

Bravo! Back to the 5 miles! You go girl! Did you find a race to do? I signed up for a 5k next Sat Dec. 8th. That would be fun if we did one the same day to keep eachother in check!

From Bethany on Thu, Nov 29, 2007 at 22:59:47

Holy Comments Lybi! After reading this novel, I forgot what i was going to comment on! Oh yeah, good idea getting your boy to sleep on a run. Im thinking Jax needs a little engery release with the cold weather coming on, maybe I will tweak your method. Thanks!

From Kim on Thu, Nov 29, 2007 at 23:11:58

You've got to change your picture back, this one is starting to give me nightmares! (and if you ask Tom I don't need anything to help with that! Some of his sleep problems could stem from me and my crazy sleeping!) Way to get back up and get going again!

From Lybi on Thu, Nov 29, 2007 at 23:38:55

Ok ok, I changed my picture back. Might take a while for you guys to see it. I'm excited because we're getting pictures taken this Saturday. Hopefully I'll have a new picture to put up.

Christi! I love the idea of racing on Dec. 8th. Good luck on your race!

Thanks for noticing I got out today, people. It really helps me to know that you guys are out there....WATCHING!

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119 miles for the month! A new record by over 12 miles.

2.85 Miles early this morning run Christine. 9:56 ave. pace. I felt extremely sluggish--like I was running 9:00 effort, but just couldn't seem to...wade through the molasses or whatever.

2.55 Miles tonight in the rain. REALLY sluggish. And my knee is not happy.

Part of this sluggishness is that I was up too late last night, I'm sure. I got all excited about this mopping robot I read about. I want one sooo bad!!! I HATE mopping. Mopping is my least favorite job of all time, other than scrubbing the inside of toilets. Blech. I guess that doesn't really explain why I was up late, but I was doing all this research on the internet, and of course, trying to find a good deal on one on Craig's List or ebay or something. I am STILL very excited about it. Just picture it! After dinner I'll

1.) Let my dog Sparky in to eat the big stuff off the floor*

2.) Then I'll turn on my mopping robot to get the smears and, of course, the dog slobber. He he he. Now I want someone to invent a shower cleaning robot and I'll be all set.

This is what it looks like:

I'll probably run again tonight to get to 5.

* My kids don't get their calories from actually ingesting their food, so much as just flinging it around. They probably absorb some of the nutrients through skin contact or something. Hence the extreme need for moppage, and the ensuing mop burnout, experienced by many beginning runners--or at least one.

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From Chris Weidman on Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 16:08:46

Great post - have you seen the link below? It's the next best thing and works great!

From Lybi on Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 22:20:04! All my dreams are coming true. Thanks, Chris!

From steve ashbaker on Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 00:43:10

Think of mopping as a form of cross-training. It works for me.

From Stacy on Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 15:24:41

I avoid mop burnout by just avoiding mopping altogether. I know, it isn't an option for everybody, but it works for me. The shower cleaner, though, I will look into.

From Brent on Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 16:42:18

Vacuum and mop, related? Nice mileage month during November. The sound of the vacuum drives me bonkers. Nice picture of you and James. By the way, can you ride that contraption in the picture. I sure one of your kids will give it a shot.

From laura on Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 17:35:56

I love the new picture! Does that mean you have Christmas pictures to share? Did Shea take them again? If so, she did a great job!

Great mileage!!!!!

From Lybi on Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 18:18:16

Ashbaker--anyone who wants some cross training should feel free to mop my floors. :)

Stacy--I like your style. You and I have some stuff in common here! has vacuuming robots too. You can start it, go for a run, come back and it'll be all done. But I think vacuuming is a relatively cool household chore, personally.

Laura, yeah, Shae took that one and a million others. Yippee! Time to order the Christmas cards.

From MichelleL on Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 19:16:00

Congrats on the monthly mileage record! Are you shooting for St. George this year?

What I really need is a laundry robot or disposable clothes, or maybe just a whole army of maids while I am creating my wish list, but to me laundry is the worst!

From Michelle on Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 22:43:13

I'm with "the fast Michelle" I need a laundry robot too!! That would I'm sure up my mileage a few extra 10 a week or so with the added time in my life!!

Brent- you would not survive my house, there is nothing better than a freshly vacuumed floor and I do it often, my kids hate it too. I bet when they move out on their own they won't vacuum for the first two years because they are so sick of it.

From Lybi on Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 00:19:08

Laundry's not so bad! At least you don't have to worry about splashing toilet water on your face while you do it. I like folding laundry while I watch TV or listen to my son practice piano. It's almost like a break. But I do hate it when it piles up. (The infamous "is-it-clean-or-is-it-dirty pile;" also known as the oh-what-the heck-let's-just-wash-it-again-pile." I do laundry 6 days a week, so I never have to do that much in one day. The key is to get rid of most of your clothes. :) That brings us back to the idea of disposable clothes!! Ha ha. Love it.

MichelleL, hmmmm on St. George. I am focused on the half in March, but if it goes well I might try for St. George. (Oh my gosh I can't believe I just wrote that "out loud.")

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How could this have been only 5 miles?  It felt like a lot longer.  Probably because I ate a huge meal just before I left--AND I was in desperate, fearful need of a potty for at least 2 miles.  Will I make it?  Will I make it?!?  I had to have a potty break midway through the run.  First time that's happened to me.  Not sure I like it, to be honest.

10:53 ave. pace, which is quite slow for me.  Hope I'm not getting sick.  I have a little bit of a sore throat.   

 Congratulations to all the fast running bloggers who raced today!


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From Bethany on Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 19:23:23

I have come to consider needing a potty break as a mark of a dedicated runner. Nice job ;) I wont ask the obvious...did you make it? oh, or maybe I will.

From Bethany on Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 19:39:23

Okay, my personal editor (cody) informed me of my mistake, I see that you had to stop halfway. Yeah, not sure I would enjoy that either. Nice new pic by the way! Hot

From Lybi on Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 21:22:07

I made it! I run in a CITY. There are no VPB's available without incurring significant city fines for indecent exposure. I just had to run home. Too bad I was so far away.

Thanks about my picture. Isn't James handsome... He has a Superman/Clark Kent effect when he takes off his glasses. That's my opinion, anyway.

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3.7 Miles with the double jogger. Ugh! I ran through some stinking deep mud with that thing. Almost got stuck.

Felt really sluggish yet again. I'm not sick, so what the heck is wrong with me? I got good sleep last night, too. Maybe it was from fasting yesterday. Fasting seems harder for me since I started running, for some reason.

1.3 Miles this evening at 9:16 ave. pace.  Probably in the "junk" miles range, as it wasn't really fast enough to be tempo or slow enough to be easy.   "Just want to be done running soon" pace, I guess.   Felt good not to feel like I was dragging, though.

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From Wildbull on Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 12:44:19

It was the fasting. not drinking enough of the good stuff! watch out for some of those pot holes!

From Michelle on Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 15:15:49

Lybi, I love the new pic. it looks like both of you exactly and sooo cute! I don't know if it was fast Sunday or what but I have had a few of those runs myself. My biggest problem is getting out the door, sometimes it is realy hard!

From Christi on Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 19:58:07

Great pic! You both look GREAT! Like your necklace and James eyes look so blue! I didn't want to complain about my fast yesterday- but I started feeling sick after fasting all day yesterday. I was probably going to get sick anyway- but going without food for awhile probably left me even more vunerable. So today I'm sick w/ head cold. Oh well. Good job getting out there and play it safe w/ good food & good rest!

From laura on Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 22:47:06

I say it was all due to the yuckiness of Monday!!!! ha,ha I felt out of sorts all day today and I didn't fast yesterday!! ;o)

From Jody on Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 23:55:26

The new picture is great. Fasting makes running so much harder. I always eat so late in the day and then enough to make up for two days of fasting. I end up sick most times.

From Bethany on Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 23:58:41

"junk" miles ha. I like it, though I dont buy it. At least you did something!

From Sasha Pachev on Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 12:42:55

I found in my experience that ideally you should load before the fast, not after. Avocados work very well for me. Afterwards, do not start eating a lot right away. Ease into it. Make sure to rehydrate first. Then some fruit vegetables. Then 20 minutes later the main course, take it slow, and do not pig out.

From Clay on Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 13:15:00

It could be the increase in mileage too Lybi, just realize some runs will be like this, Sasha had some good points as well. Ease into the food thing when fast Sunday comes around and make sure you rehydrate, again like Sasha said.

From MOM on Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 16:58:32

I love your new picture. Where did you get it? Do you want to replace the wedding picture of you two on the family room wall with an 8X10 of that picture. Make a good Christmas present!

From Lybi on Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 17:22:12

Hey Sasha, I haven't heard from you in a while. I am all over the avocado idea! You know how much I love avocados!

Thanks everybody for your comments! Comments make me happy, it is true. Even if all you say is "You ran. That's good." it makes a big difference to me.

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Oh boy.  I simultaneously broke my record for longest run since I was a teenager AND longest continuous run with a double jogging stroller.  11:06 ave. pace.  Splits of 11:52, 11:10, 11:17, 11:14, 11:24, 11:01, 10:11, and 9:46 pace for the .32.  The first mile I was wrangling my crazy but lovable dog Sparky--that slowed me down a lot.  The last 2 miles felt the best.  I was all excited that I was breaking my record.  The very end seemed like an all out sprint to me!  The stroller adds at least a min. per mile to my time, so I feel really good about this run.  I must say that the weather was PERFECT, the course was flat, and I only had ONE 40 pound kid in the stroller instead of the usual two.

Now if you'll all excuse me I need to go lay around and be useless as much as possible before my piano students arrive. 

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From jody on Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 17:54:20

Congrats!! Pushing a double stroller!

I am in awe...

From MIchelle on Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 18:18:23

I second Jodi! Truley borderine crazy too!! (in a good way!) You are getting better and better!

From marci on Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 19:43:13

nice run!!! and i thought pushing a 20 pound kid in a single stroller was hard.

From Bethany on Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 22:59:51

You scheduling a "gun show" anytime soon? I bet your biceps are showing all that pushing!

From Bethany on Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 23:00:21

Okay, that was a nerdy comment. But awesome job anyway!

From Lybi on Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 23:09:58

Marci--pushing a stroller is always hard, no matter how light the kid is--just having to push and not being able to swing your arms. However, on the uphills, heavy kids equal and HUGE workout.

Bethany--unfortunately my "guns" are encased in...well, they're encased. So there is not much to see just yet. Hope that changes as my mileage goes up.

From Lybi on Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 23:10:52

I meant to say, "heavy kids=HUGE workout."

From sarah on Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 23:29:20

Fabulous picture..I LOVE IT!! Especially the look on your faces...I'll take some interpretation license and hopefully not get in too much trouble. James looks like he just LOVES the hot babe in the picture with him..and the hot babe..she knows she's the hot babe...sorry..but hope that gives you a laugh!! I'm in awe also about the baby jogger run. Will you push me next time?

From crumpyb1 on Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 23:32:41

Amazing, Lybi! Congratulations on a new long run record. Don't you feel incredibly powerful? If you don't... well, you should.

From crumpyb1 on Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 23:33:34

Sarah, you are so funny.

From Lybi on Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 23:51:05

Actually, that picture was taken at my friend Shae's house, and I was most likely thinking, at the time of this picture. "I wonder what the kids are doing right now. Hopefully not knocking down the Christmas tree in the other room." Look at my face and you'll see it's true.

From laura on Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 00:11:51

SEVEN miles with a JOGGING stroller, Lybi!!! Talk about "stepping" your exercise routine up a notch (or seven)! You crazy lady - that's awesome.

Ha, ha. I have to agree with Sarah on what's going on in your mind. I've seen the fear of "what are my boys doing" in your eyes before and you definitely look more relaxed - and hot!

From Shauna on Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 00:15:31

Yes, great picture and great run! You're awesome!

From sarah on Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 08:04:26

I totally believe you Lybi but I KNOW that's what James is can see he loves's so cute.

From James on Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 10:11:01

Nice job on the long run. I am surprised that BS hasn't awarded you some of those commando points yet!

From Christi on Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 14:05:12

You're AMAZING!! Remind me which of the little guys that one is in the pic??

From Lybi on Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 15:14:10

Christi--that is my little 5 year-old, Joey. He's a charmer.

From Stacy on Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 20:14:18

Awesome job today! One of these days I'll get up to 7 miles at a time, but for now I'm going to just shoot for 3 miles without stopping. We'll see.

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Well, after my excellent long run yesterday, I thought I'd mix it up a little by having a rotten, pathetic run today. Variety is the spice of life, right? After the first few steps my body was protesting loudly. Nothing serious--just very low energy, and achy joints. So I guess I overdid it a little yesterday. Anyway, I did end up getting around the track several times---sssssllowly.

On another note, I've been contemplating switching to a sport in which I do not feel so enormously heavy compared to the average competitor, such as Sumo.

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From andee on Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 12:22:39

Okay, I'm laughing out loud with your Sumo suggestion.... I think we all feel that way at times. Thanks for the great laugh. Have a great day.

From Michelle on Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 15:23:44

I think you better stick to running, you'll never make it on the mat as a Sumo wrestler! As for the not so great run, I always chalk that up to punishment from my body for the extra miles that I have caused it to endure. I suppose in time it will cave and you'll be hitting a new record soon!

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5 Miles on the treadmill in 51:50.  I was watching "The Count of Monte Cristo".  Good flick.  Even better book.  Anyone read it?

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From Logan on Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 17:30:06

The book is way better than the movie in my opinion!

From Bethany on Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 17:36:52

I enjoyed both for different reasons. the book was a lot different than I expected. (in a good way) I would definitely read the book first!

From Bethany on Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 17:37:19

PS, Yikes Lybi! How did you manage 5 miles on the treadmill? I get bored after 3! Nice job

From andee on Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 18:42:10

Good job with 5 miles on the treadmill. Looks like you and I had the same idea today. I've never read the book, but really liked the movie. Much better than my entertainment which was "Clifford and Dragon Tails".

From Jody on Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 19:52:34

Nice job on the treadmill. I have not read the book but I loved the movie. I guess I need to read the book.

From Mik'L on Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 20:24:14

Way to go...5 miles on the treadmill is an accomplishment! I have only seen the movie, but I love it (and own it!).

From Shauna on Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 21:33:26

Do you have a treadmill at your house? I think that should be on my Christmas list!

I think I read the book in junior high and hated it, but it seems to be a book that would be more enjoyed by an older person. Maybe I'll give it a whirl again...

From Brent on Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 22:22:12

Lybi, tough as nails? A fall can't keep this runner down. Treadmill, only way, rock n roll with no sense of time or distance, don't look down. Count, the ultimate payback. Lesson from this flick, just enjoy. No time for books unless traveling or a training book (except reading to the grand kiddies, does that count?).

Stay Cool, B of BS Rools out

From Lybi on Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 23:00:44

I liked the movie because of the great actors. Especially that old guy, you know, the "real" Dumbledore guy. And I like how happy it ends. The plot of the movie is VERY simplified, but I think it really captures the message and overall feeling of the book.

The book is REALLY long, with lots of characters to keep track of. That would make it hard to read as a youngun, Shauna. But it is so well written! This book has it all. It is a page turner, with action, adventure, romance, deep themes, and a moralistic feel to it. This is the most engaging book I've ever read that is more than 200 years old. Well, darn it, I like "Pride and Prejudice" a lot too. It's tough to say.

From Lybi on Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 23:01:51

And I have a treadmill. The belt slips a little, so sometimes it tries to buck me off. I don't have to worry about cars hitting me though! Fair trade.

From Michelle on Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 23:40:33

(Laughing!!!) the image of the treadmill bucking you off! (There used to be one at the gym like that, so I can say I've been there myself!)

You have peeked my intrest, maybe I should get my hands on that book. The problem is that this time of year it's so hard to find time to read.. I've been meaning to read the last Harry Potter and many more but there never seems to be any time, untill I read the first chapter and then everything else goes out the window! I just don't think that I can get away with that right now!

From James W on Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 00:20:18

Wow, way to go with 5 miles on the ol' treadmill, sweetie! Sounds like a much better day than yesterday. Personally, I am surprised that you could handle the belt slippage (I couldn't, but I am also much heavier than you). We really need to get it fixed, I just keep forgetting 'cuz their customer service closes just about the time I get home. BTW, Count of Monte Cristo, loved the movie, I also loved the old guy (Richard Harris, everyone), and had picked up the book remembering the movie. I was amazingly captivated (ask Lybi). I highly recommend the book, it is a great read for an adult. I probably would have hated it as a teenager.

From Wildbull on Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 13:27:48

RW is about all i can read for now! The movie is great. Good job on 5 with the treadmill! let it snow!

From Brent on Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 18:01:53

Lybi, you have a good sense of humor, I like the helmet on Sammy. I'm going to give my bike helmet a try. All in fun with James.

From James on Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 18:31:15

Yes all is fun with me. Nice job on your run today and I love to see that 5.00 mile posting. I would be disappointed if you would have calculated those extra 10 steps and put 5.012928374 miles.

From Lybi on Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 18:37:20

James--Congrats on finishing your student teaching James, I just saw that. Any school would be lucky to get you. Let's just hope the school mascot doesn't get to close to you on one of your runs!

And by the way, you missed my run from today, apparently, something like 4.3233589.

From James on Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 18:46:16

Thanks Lybi, some school will be extremely blessed to have me. And the mascot only need worry if he looks like Sammy, whatever it looks like?

By the way, I saw your todays report, but from now on I will only comment on the good I see on the blog, because Dave thinks I am too negative. And you missed my comment on today.

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4 on the treadmill and a little bit more running to get my son, so that last .323357 is just an estimate based on how I felt, and the scientific analysis of how hard the breeze was blowing on my face.

I don't think I'm going to race tomorrow.  I need my energy to do ALL my Christmas shopping tomorrow.  At least that is my plan.  We'll see if I change my mind. 

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From James on Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 18:33:30

I forget how Sassy you are. I think it will soon be on, teaching the piano teacher a lesson that is! I propose a challenge to you and your other sassy, blog addict, wonderful stay at home mom, friends(Josse and Michelle L). Let the blog decide on the challenge and the prize. I will have my tag team partner Sasha on my side. Sammy better stay out of my way,(at least while I am running), and "Just Bring It!"

P.S. The challenge can't have anything to do with speed because me and my tag partner will layeth the smack down. And it can't be leaving comments on people's blogs because we will get dominated.

From Lybi on Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 18:42:02

Another side of codgerism when you start forgeting memorable things such as my oversized attitude, James.

From James on Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 18:57:57

Once again, I was stirring thing up in a polite way and did not mention "Little Man Syndrome".

From Mik'L on Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 19:45:45

Wow, this is some heated debate going on! haha NICE PIC Lybi! It looks like you! So I totally approve! Way cute. Good luck on the shopping...I haven't started nor do I want to!

From Michelle on Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 22:08:44

Yes I agree save your energy for shopping, it's rough out there! As for the pic, I agree looks just like you and if it's recent and the beautiful green back ground is current, I'm so jealous!!!

From Lybi on Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 23:41:44

Ya, Michelle, that picture's just 1 week old. Feel free to come visit for some warm winter racing!

Mik'L, I'm so glad I finally have a Mik'l approved picture! Also glad I'm not the only one who hasn't started Christmas shopping yet. Why prolong the agony?

James--(By the way, this is not the REAL James (my husband), this is Monaflash, the newly certified health teacher/animal brutality offender who wants to change everyone on the blog on HIS system of tracking mileage i.e. when in doubt, round it up.)

If you want a contest on "neutral ground," why don't we make it...hmmm...Oh I know! How about piano playing? Or maybe getting along with animals?

P.S. What the heck is "Little Man Syndrome?" (Please do not elaborate!) This is evidence of too much time spent in high school locker rooms.

From James on Sat, Dec 08, 2007 at 01:20:24

You would rather go Christmas shopping than run a race, what kind of blog addict are you?

You need to sharpen those trash talking skills, you get a little weaker in ripping me as it drags on. Don't worry you will be a pro soon if you keep jarring back and forth with me enough..

I think Sasha and I would take you in piano playing contest, especially in a contest of popularity rather than skill . I mean if you have heard Sasha play BINGO, you would know that you wouldn't stand a chance!

From Brent on Sat, Dec 08, 2007 at 19:55:21

Lybi, Me and Sammy must join the fray. When is our challenge? My piano skills stop with chop sticks. Maybe I can be the heckler, spell Bingo nothing like Bingo, while Sammy licks them during smack down. You are soon becoming a super hero. Defender of Garmin geeks and large white dogs.

Super hero points 1,000

From Lybi on Sat, Dec 08, 2007 at 22:21:32

Brent, with you on our side, there is no question we will win! You hold him down and I'll recite Pi to him up to 100 decimals. Monaflash cannot stand decimals--it's like his kryptonite. He'll be screaming for mercy!

Another possible area for the challenge: pringles eating contest. There is no way he and Sasha (who won't touch them) could eat as many you and me!

Cart wheels and singing (can you sing?) are also good possiblities for me.

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5 Miles on the treadmill, which is working beautifully thanks to my hubby James mechanical know-how. I finally finished "The Count of Monte Cristo."   52 min. for the run.

And shopping was a bear. Blech.  But Christmas is worth it!

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From Christi on Sun, Dec 09, 2007 at 23:06:28

Wow- look at your MILEAGE this week- GREAT JOB!! Christmas shopping seems to get more of a pain each year- doesn't it? Great pic once again. Your blog is always so fun & fresh!

From Michelle on Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 03:18:57

Five miles on the treadmill is quite noteworthy (SP?) I just don't think that I would have that in me!! I'm glad that the hubby fixed the treadmill that would be a terrible way to get hurt!! But I still get a little giggle thinking about you on it!! (In the nicest way!!!)

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5 Miles on the treadmill in 51:20.  Incline 1.

Caution:  Gingerbread house construction underway!   Fun times.

 I keep thinking about the Canyonlands half marathon in Moab coming up and I am really concerned (worried) about the hills.  I live in a very flat place.  I don't think that I will be able to spend the extra time to travel to a hilly course often enough to make a difference.  Please help!  Any ideas on how to simulate hill training?  I am thinking of doing hill treadmill workouts.  What incline range should I use?  Also, I can do squats and stuff to make my quads stronger for the uphills, but I am completely at a loss as to how to train downhill without hills.  Stairs maybe?  I would really appreciate feedback from anyone who is familiar with the course.  It's my first half ever, and I don't want know, die, anymore than is absolutely necessary.   I am  hoping that it will go really well, and give me the confidence to shoot for St. George this year.

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From James W on Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 00:29:09

Go Lybi! Fun times with the gingerbread house . . .

good job getting the miles in. Regarding the hills, we do have some slight hills that you can run up and down. With the treadmill, I recommend experimenting a bit. You can even go up and down during the run to better simulate rolling hills. Start at incline of 1, then go up to 2, back down to 1, up to 3, back down to 1, up to 4, then back down to 1 again. You can do 1/4 mile to 1/2 mile at each incline level. That will get you a killer workout :D

From Lybi on Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 00:31:08

The only disadvantage of doing it that way is that you can't drag me up the "hills".

From Jim on Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 10:02:11

Hi Lybi,

Since I run trails and ultras, I encounter a lot of hills and I'm a lousy hill climber. What I did this year that really helped in that department was to lift weights. For my legs I do squats, leg press and lunges. 3 sets of 10 each on the press and squat at the heaviest weight I can do without losing form. My legs didn't get bigger, but I really felt stronger and much more powerful going uphill. It was amazing to me. I also found that the weights also help with the downhill run. You're strengthening your quads and that's what gets trashed during the donwhills. Also, with downhills, I do as little braking as I can and just let gravity work. I have also done hill workouts on the treadmill. I have one called my devil workout, 6 miles, 6 mph (10:00 pace), 6% grade (666). In those 6 miles you're climbing almost 2000'. A good hill climb in anyone's book.

From Michelle on Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 10:31:34

Lybi, I can offer no training advice what so ever, but I can say this. I think for the most part the down hill is fairly gradual and the up hill sections aren't bad either. It's been about four years so I can't remember that well but I think that just doing some incline on the treadmill and maybe a little leg strenghtening like mentioned above and you are going to do fine!!

From Lybi on Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 15:06:09

Thanks Jim! I'll start doing those exercises pronto!

And thanks Michelle, that does make me feel better. All I saw was that the course was "rolling". Based on the steep rolling hills I experienced in North Carolina over Thanksgiving, I was expecting similar results: horribly slow pace.

From Sasha Pachev on Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 15:29:01

Moab is a very gently sloped course. You can train for it by running the loop on your block. Start from your house, take a left, then follow the road up, then right, right again, down, then right again, and more more time until you get back to your house. You can also do strides downhill starting at the highest point and going in the direction of your house.

From andee on Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 19:28:14

The gingerbread houses sound great - you are a good mom to put that together! I'm excited that you are doing the Canyonlands half - I've heard it's wonderful. Good luck with your training!

From Lybi on Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 15:50:17

Oh good, Sasha. I run that way almost every single day. Those count as hills? OK. I'm not complaining. When I first started training I thought they were massive uphills, but being in NC completely redefined "hills" for me.

From Sasha Pachev on Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 18:16:51

You will not see anything much steeper than that in Moab. Moab half has a rolling drop of about 100 feet with lots of mild ups and downs.

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2.85 miles with Christine early this morning in my neighborhood. Ave. pave 9:11. About 1 min. per mile faster than usual, but it felt easy and good. Christine just got back from New York, after being gone for a week or so. Before the run I decided I would let Christine "have her head", meaning I would not try to slow her down. So I just hung out with her. I was happy that I seemed to take it in stride a little more than she did today. It is a little demoralizing to always feel like the "slow one." I usually run about 8.4 miles with Christine out of my 30. I am thinking of turning these miles into "marathon pace miles" because I just hate cramping Christine's style. Ideally, I would also have 2 tempo miles (around 8 min./mile) per week, leaving about 20 miles (hopefully more) "easy" (10-10:30 pace). Does this sound like a good ratio?

Pi miles on the treadmill tonight to get me to 6 for the day. I had to stop mid-stride to get it just right. SLOW pace. I'm watching "The Ultimate Gift" on my treadmill runs. Sweet flick, so far. Can't wait to see the end.

P.S. If I do not do my 2 mile tempo run tomorrow, you all have my permission to rail on me. Tempo runs often hurt, which is why I frequently "forget" to do them.

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From Shauna on Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 21:41:11

Lybi, I used to run most of my runs at a much faster pace than I do now. However, I am ALMOST as fast in my races now as I was then, and my recovery time is almost nonexistent. For example, running 7 miles two days after a near-PR half marathon would have been absolutely out of the question two years ago. I am also running higher mileage for a more extended period of time as well. So, the moral of the story is: I think almost 1/3 of your weekly mileage at marathon pace might be a little much. Maybe you can do your tempo run with Christine (which should be 10% of your weekly mileage, I think) and keep the rest of the mileage easy.

Great job on doing the tempo runs, by the way. You are inspiring me to get off my lazy butt and start doing them again!

From Christi on Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 09:49:24

Sorry- can't answer your tempo questions. From my experience its all about getting in the miles no matter how fast. I'm curious to see Sasha's answer. But you & Christine were cruising- excellent job on the fast run & getting another run in!!!!

From laura on Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 11:08:19

Did you forget your tempo run? Rail, rail, rail!!! (hee,hee) ;oP Thanks for all the checking up on me that you did while my foot was hurting this weekend. You're awesome. I still can't decide about Moab. I know I only have 2-3 days left to decide. Ahhh!

From Lybi on Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 11:11:02

Hey, I still have until midnight tonight to get it in, Laura! And YOU are the awesome one.

From Kristina on Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 11:15:58

I like the idea of "forgetting" to do workouts. He he. You are awesome! I love reading about your improvements!

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Well, I am sure you are all impressed by my 100 yd. tempo run. The truth is, I just really did not feel like doing a tempo run! I'm going to choose to call it "listening to my body" instead of "outright laziness." Bring on the railings if you must--I'm ready for it. Maybe I'll ask Christine to run fast with me tomorrow morning. I do feel good about my 6 miler though. I think I could get used to doing 6 a day.

On a side note, I reached a new level of dignity in the running department: underarm chaffage. (I didn't say it was a higher level, just a new one.) What kind of a sport is this!? I have to type with my elbows sticking out. This is an outrage! Now I am stuck with the bewildering dilemma of configuring band-aids in a very tricky place. Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to go apply ice. 

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From Christi on Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 09:39:17

Let's rail on eachother and call it good. I was supposed to get in one more mile yesterday and blogged that I would- then didn't. Man! As far as the underarm chaffage- that does sound tricky. You'll really have to lube those puppies before your next run!! Vasoline (sp?)??!

From sarah on Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 09:41:02

I will be the first to applaud you for listening to your body. Mental health for a mom is ESSENTIAL. Running is wonderful for your body and mind but you also need to be in tune with your need to save yourself for the emotional demands of the day. Don't leave it all on the road or treadmill and be a happy mommy..GREAT JOB!!!!

From jfogg on Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 10:01:36

I've heard that chaffage is an issue for many runners...big, small, male, and female. I still think that Body Glide is the best out mess and very effective. I can't run more than 100 yards without it.

From Bethany on Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 12:22:06

Oh goody, there are more running departments than pain? Thanks for giving me an idea of things to come! (in the far far away future that is...)

Great job upping the mileage and always pushing yourself. But if it makes you feel better..."Lybi! What are you thinking? Im depending on you to be superwoman and get in those tempos! Now run!" There, I did it for you. Railing accomplished.

From andee on Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 12:43:03

Sorry about the chaffage - that is no fun at all. Way to go with a good run & listening to your body!!

From Lybi on Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 14:39:03

Well, it is official. You are all horrible at railing. (See, THAT is a railing.) Thanks for trying, anyway. :) You made me smile.

The people on this blog are all so sweet. I try to make up for it by being mean every once in a while. Hiii-YAH! Ninja-running-mommy-piano teacher on the loose.

But the good news is that you've all made me want to go run again, so here I go!

From rachelle on Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 09:25:56

My husband has always swore on Vaseline for all is runs fast long slow or whatever. good luck on healing. One day I hope to run 6 miles good job on staying consistant.

From jfogg on Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 10:20:30

Agreed. Vaseline works great...the only negative is the mess to apply it. If you could get it in a roll-on, like the Body Glide, then it would be the most cost-effective method for sure. Try the vaseline first.

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Quick 4 on the treadmill during little one's naptime.  I'll get 2 more tonight.  I'm feeling really good on this 6 a day protocol.  But now I'm thinking that my record for longest run ever is miserably short--only 2 more miles.  I really need to break that sometime soon.

 Oooo, and who suggested bodyglide?  JFogg, I think.  That stuff works MIRACLES.

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From Jody on Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 19:14:00

Great job - 6 miles a day is fantastic. You'll break your longest run record in no time!

From Michelle on Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 22:48:13

So I was sitting in my meeting today and I wasn't sure of the date and yelled out "what's today?" I thought maybe it was the 15 and we would find out if we got into Moab and for a minute I was really excitted! But then when I found out that it wasn't quickly realized that I will be out of town this weekend (breaking my only goal for the month to stay home every weekend! I forgot about the family Christmas party) so I'm going to have to wait even longer to find out! I think that I will be terribly disappointed if we all don't get in!! I signed my hubby up under Mik'L's group and he says that if they get in and I don't I will be running as him! I don't think that not doing the race will kill me, I am just way excitted to see everyone again!!! I may have to call you or someone Sat. and see it we did or not!

From Lybi on Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 23:54:11

Michelle call me! You have my number, I presume. Or email me:

And thanks for the vote of confidence Jody!

From Benn on Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 10:28:16

Sorry I'm out of the loop, but is Moab a 1/2 or full marathon? or is it a relay? It sounds like fun!

From Brent on Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 10:38:27

Lybi, now attacking twinkees is over the top. Bill Rogers would have a thing or two to say about that.

You are ready for that 10 mile run, find a baby sitter and have your hubby pace you thru the run.

Stay Cool, B of BS Rools out

From Lybi on Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 10:41:39

Benn--It's a half. (But that is 4X longer than I have ever raced before.)

If you want to do it, registration ends tonight! The real name of it is the Canyonlands Half Marathon. Check it out! I think there is room in "Brurger Time" if you want to register in a FRB group. I don't think there are any relay teams.

From Lybi on Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 10:49:25

Brent, if it weren't for twinkies there would be no hole in the ozone layer. What kind of environmentalist doesn't realize that?

From Lybi on Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 10:51:19

Also inflation wouldn't be so bad and the housing market would be better. Trust me. I have met and talked to at least one economist for at least 5 min. so I know my stuff.

Twinkies=moral and economic ruin.

From Brent on Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 11:45:27

Lybi, googled twinkees, now despise them. Problem, I will now need to carry cup cakes on my run instead of twinkees. All my running shorts have big twinkee pockets. Are zingers ok?

I will now be much richer without twinkees, live well and prosper.

From brent on Sat, Dec 15, 2007 at 10:17:19

Lybi, can't sleep at night, 1 a.m, I hope you were getting ready to run. I am surprised you did not get bomb shelled with the 5 guys in the OT and white sock for codgers from James (it likely hit home) Maybe everyone is on pins and needles waiting for the Moab Lottery results. We'll see if James reads this and gets going, if he is feeling better. Have a good running saturday. It is 13 degrees right now, me and Sylvie are trying to decide on going to the gym or bundling up and go out.

B of BS Rools out

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I knew today was going to be a zero.  I got up at 5:00 am and worked my rear off all day long and got home at about midnight and went to bed.  Pity,  It's been a long time since I missed a day.  But tomorrow I am going to attempt to run 10 miles, so I'll just think of it as a really condensed taper.  He he.

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Never at any time in my little life have I put 10 miles on these legs in one day. Longest ever before was 8 miles. Longest since I started running again was 7. So this is a record for me, but I have to admit it was not continuous. I ran two 5 milers.

First I ran 3 with Christine and finished up with 2 more with my dog. Ave. pace was 10:15 for the whole run. Just as I was bringing in the dog (he doesn't run very far--2 miles is about his limit) a man called from our church, begging for James to come help someone move. So James left and I got the kids ready for the day and did some of my Saturday chores. James got back about an hour and a half later, and I finished up with another 5.

But here's where it gets fun: Ave. pace for the second run was 9:01! That is really good for me. I think it's the fastest 5 miler I've ever done at 45:05. I never thought I'd be able to do that at the same time as breaking my record for most running in a day by a long ways. I think the reason it was faster was that I ran with music. My stupid MP3 player kept shutting off and starting over with the first song--"Eye of the Tiger." I listened to that song about 90% of the time on my run. My splits were: 9:33, 9:40, 9:20, 8:29, 8:02. I never would have believed those last two miles without the Garmin. That is my tempo mile pace! To be fair, it was slightly uphill the first half and very slightly downhill the whole second half. Plus I stopped the watch for traffic lights and to smooch, I mean, say hello to James as I ran by the park. But still!!! I am happy. And right now I'm not dead tired. Isn't that weird? Now I am starting to wonder if I might be a distance runner after all. I mean, maybe a 5K is too short of a race for me to really get into my groove, which