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Running Accomplishments:

5K: 15:41-Portland Track Festival 2010

10K: 31:34-Linfield College (Track) 2012

10 Mile: 51:57-Pear Blossom 2009

1/2 Marathon: 1:10:42-Foot Traffic Flat 2010

Marathon: 2:29:35-Newport 2013

50K: 3:48:06-Weiser River 50K 2021

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12-hour race, sometime in 2021

100 mile race, sometime...

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Sub 1:10 Half Marathon

Sub 2:30 Marathon

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Race: Lincoln Marathon (26.2 Miles) 02:47:08, Place overall: 19, Place in age division: 7
Total Distance
27.00

Be warned; this is probably my longest entry yet. I wrote it Sunday night while the thoughts were still somewhat fresh, but now (Monday afternoon) I'm on a computer for the first time in 4 days. Here goes:


So I'm hoping this is therapeutic, or something like that anyway :)

I'm pretty disappointed right now. I just finished my second marathon in Lincoln, Nebraska and needless to say, it didn't go as planned. First, a little background; just after returning from my first army deployment in September 2003 I ran in the Santa Clara Swiss Days 5K and won the race in 16:20 or so. As I was standing around waiting for the awards I was approached by Santa Clara Heights resident George Graff. We discovered we were both in the Army Guard and he told me about the 'All Guard Marathon Team' and said I should look into running with him and the state of Utah on their marathon team. At the time I was more interested in returning to SUU and running another year of cross country and track, so I passed on the opportunity.

While on my second deployment from 2005 to 2006, my running focus changed to the marathon distance as I ran loops around the base in Ramadi. Injury prevented me from running the 2006 St. George marathon, but I ran a number of half marathons in 2006 and 2007, all between 1:13 and 1:15. I figured I could handle a marathon pretty well and was very pleased with a 2:44 at the St. George marathon in 2007. Training had been off and on throughout the summer of 2007 and most weeks I ran only 25 miles (I ran something like 10 miles in June 2007). During the St. George Marathon I ran very casually the first 10 miles, then sub-6 the last 16 and ran an 8 minute negative split and it felt so easy doing so. Anyway, I figured with some disciplined training and slightly faster opening miles I could easily run in the 2:30's in Lincoln.

After finishing SGM, I was reminded about the opportunity that had presented itself with running for the Guard. I made a few calls and the Utah team captain was happy to sign me up with the team. I continued to train with a May marathon in Lincoln as my focus. I had some great training runs. Twice I ran 20 miles at a faster pace than my first 20 @ St. George. 3 weeks before Lincoln I ran 24 miles in Cedar City (elevation 5900 ft) in 2:27, which was 6:09 pace. I thought for sure going to Nebraska, with an elevation around 1300 ft, I would run fast and it would feel easy. After a long opening, that leads me to today where I ran like garbage. Pure garbage.

I slept horrible for the 2nd straight night. After a restless night I was wide awake at 4am (3am Utah). I laid there for 30 minutes, realized sleep was hopeless, and got up for breakfast at 4:40. Then pretty much just sat there waiting for the clock to tick by and get started.

I jogged the quarter mile to the starting line around 6:30 and saw my wife. The weather, after the previous 3 days of 30 mph winds and very cold, was perfect at the start. No breeze and 39 degrees. There were 6000 runner's lined up, but probably less than 2,000 were going the full 26.2. The majority ran the half marathon. Anyway, my goal was to run the first 8-10 miles right above 6:00/mile, then the rest all sub-6 with a finishing time 2:35-2:37. These splits are coming off my garmin, so like always, they are off slightly. I'm going to just run with a $10 watch from now on :)

I started out by drafting off people for the first 4 miles. 1) 6:10, 2) 6:15 on a very slight uphill, 3) 6:34 slower, but I was drafting, so I kind of took what the group was doing, 4) 6:00, 5) 6:07 on one of the steepest hills, so I was happy my time didn't get out of control.

Mile 6) 5:39, I'm sure not this fast, but it was downhill, so easily sub 6. My official 10K split was 38:18, so I figured I was moving along nicely. Right after mile 6 we made a hard right turn and got on a bike trail for the next 3 miles. I moved up to the next group during this mile 7) 5:48, 8) 6:09 on a pretty good incline, 9) 6:04 on another climb and 10) 5:56 and feeling really good. There was some confusion at the aid station at mile 10 and I didn't get any fluids, but figured I'd be okay. This time doesn't add up from the previous one's listed, but I remember them calling out 1:01:14 @ 10 miles, so I felt like I was right on goal.

Miles 11 and 12 were both 5:58 and then the half marathoner's peeled off and the full marathoner's had another loop to go. I asked my place at the next aid station and was told 12th, so I was looking forward to moving up to a top-10 place overall. From mile 12 to 17 I ran in no-man's land, completely by myself. I could see a group of 3 guys ahead, but they were a solid 600 meters ahead of me. Again at mile 14 there was confusion and I didn't get any fluids. Here I started to get worried that the lack of water/Gatorade twice was going to cause a negative effect on my performance. Mile 13) 5:50, (Official split @ 13.1 was 1:20:26). 14) 5:26 (again, nowhere near this fast--I'm done with my Garmin on race day). The wind had really picked up at this point and from 14 to 21 we were running into a mix of headwind/crosswind, easily 15-20 mph. Mile 15) 5:49, 16) 5:49, 17) 6:00 uphill and finally caught a guy from Alabama.

The two of us ran together for 3 miles and picked off a guy, so I was sitting tied for 10th, ready to collect prize money, set a pr and cross the finish line around 2:36 and a sub-6 average. 18) 5:59, 19) 6:01 and really fighting the wind, but feeling pretty good and still joking with spectators and other runners. The pace still felt easy and very doable. Mile 20) 5:51 and a total time of 2:01:07. I was right on pace and thinking that a sub 2:40 was going to be no problem. Mile 21) 6:01, Mile 22) 6:05 and I start to get a little winded. Both of my calves were feeling like they were going to cramp and I could tell that both of my big toes had been bleeding for a few miles already.

Mile 23) 6:11 and people are passing me occasionally, guys that I had passed back around miles 8-12. Mile 24) 6:31 and I can tell I'm falling apart, but can't figure out why? I had missed a couple water stops and it was slightly windy, but I have had training runs at 6,000 ft where I have maintained 6:00/mile pace with zero issues. Oh yeah, and my nipples hurt something fierce :). So I'm bleeding out of my toes and blood blisters have developed on my nipples. Good stuff. At some point I say 'screw it' and walk for a few steps during mile 25) 7:13. When I start walking, my vision goes blurry and I start to feel woozy. I realize I can't even compute simple digits and figure out a new goal to shoot for. On a strange note, from this point on, I was craving an ice-cream sandwich something fierce! Nothing sounded more appetizing, so very strange.

Mile 26) 10:10. Yup, that says 10:10. I walked multiple times through here and people kept yelling "looking good" and other such nonsense. I had nothing. I guess I experienced 'hitting the wall' only I think I hit more like 3 or 4 walls. I was fine to walk the remainder of the race, only to realize that if I ran, I could finish the misery sooner, so I jogged it in to the finish. I could see the clock at about 2:46:47 and could have easily made it under 2:47 but I was ticked/disappointed and couldn't be bothered to exhort the effort necessary and basically walked/jogged across the line in 2:27:08. Pure garbage :)

So that was my Lincoln experience. I just couldn't figure out what went wrong, what I didn't do or what I should have done instead. Still don't know. The group I'm with (most of whom run here each year for the past 10+ years) rattled off 20+ individuals who ran slower than they usually do at this race each year, so for whatever reason times were a little slower, although I'm sure there were plenty that pr'd as well.

I took 2 hours or so to feel bad for myself, but I'm feeling better now. I was still able to qualify for the "All-Guard Team" and will have the chance to run in Detroit, Memphis, Dayton, Washington D.C. and New Orleans during the next 12 months, so that should be fun. And if I'm still in the Guard, I'm sure I'll come back next year and try and redeem myself in Nebraska.


These are my official splits:

 

  • 10K - 38:18
  • 13.1 - 1:20:26
  • 20 Mile - 2:01:07
  • Final 10K - 46:01 How freakin sweet is that bad boy?!?!!
  • Total Time 2:47:09
  • 6:23 Average pace

When it's all said and done, I guess it's not so bad to come here and run slow. If I hadn't, I would have spent the weekend playing Army in Dugway, Utah. This was better.

Y2 (120)

Comments
From dave holt on Mon, May 05, 2008 at 17:00:45

If you haven't been humbled by the marathon, you're not a true marathoner (at least that's what I try and tell myself after the many marathons that have eaten me alive!). You'll bounce back no big deal. Keep consistent in your mileage and you'll hit some awesome runs in the future.

From Superfly on Mon, May 05, 2008 at 17:12:55

A marathon is a cruel but rewarding beast. Your training has been good so you should be ready for your next one. Just chalk this one up as a learning experience. Remember fluids, band-aids on the nipples, and the fact that from 20 miles in it's a brand new race.

Still a great race and a good entry.

From jtshad on Mon, May 05, 2008 at 17:44:17

What a race report. Respect for the 26.2 mile distance is well deserved and it can eat anyone up, today was just your turn. You will bounce back and hit your expectations at one of those other races mentioned.

Band-aids or Bodyglide on the nipples. I have run a couple and forgot and the sting of the shower told me to remember the next time. I experience the redstreaked shirt at Shamrock this year, and it was not pleasant.

From Sasha Pachev on Mon, May 05, 2008 at 18:02:06

There are a few things going on here, not necessarily in the order of importance:

a) Being too stressed out before the race kept you from storing enough glycogen.

b) Missing a couple of aid stations did not help either.

c) You were really doing not that bad up to 24 through the wall, and then you were mentally unprepared to deal with it. Those last couple of miles are like being tortured by an interrogating enemy that is injecting mind-altering drugs into you in an attempt to break you down and make you talk. Low blood sugar leads to depressing thoughts. I remember getting to mile 23 in TOU in 2003, I was running well, I slowed down to 6:00 but I knew it would not get any slower, I was in the lead by a lot and headed for a 5+ minute PR, and all of a sudden this thought attacks me almost beyond my ability to resist - I just want to quit! It took a lot more effort than you would think in those circumstances to fight it off.

d) Too much VO2 Max work. VO2 Max work shifts your metabolism to be less economical. You become a 5 K runner at all costs, the type of guy that always uses Express Glycogen Mail whether he needs it or not. I cannot think of one post-collegiate runner (maybe with the exception of Josh Rohatinsky) that did not experience a spectacular crash at the end of a marathon within 6 months of graduating in spite of doing the homework of long runs and decent mileage.

Hopefully you can overcome those issues in the next race and get the time you deserve.

From Lybi on Mon, May 05, 2008 at 18:21:44

Man! 2 missed nights of sleep, 2 missed aid stations, and bleeding from 2 places on your body--I think your body just threw a fit on those last few miles. (And I can totally see its point!)

I'm so sorry you didn't get the race you wanted! The marathon is so darn long and unforgiving. Any little thing (or, like, 6 big things) can have serious consequences. I still think you are freaking amazing to have come in with the time you did under the circumstances.

From Dustin on Mon, May 05, 2008 at 23:56:57

Glen good job, don't be too hard on yourself. Like has been said, you're still learning with the marathon and when running for that long of a time, there are a number of things that can go wrong. I'm sure there will be many things you can take from this experience to help you in the future.

From Little Bad Legs on Tue, May 06, 2008 at 00:41:53

Thanks for the comments. I guess I underestimated a few things after a decent marathon 'debut' last year. I will learn from the experience and move on.

From Mike on Tue, May 06, 2008 at 01:14:43

Glen. That is a well written report and I would like to congratulate you on finishing. I have only run 2 full marathons, but by the others I have seen and from my first experience (3:57 after being at 1:34 at the half) my first and foremost goal in any marathon is 1. To finish You did this and although you did not meet your goal, you still beat me by 11 minutes! Good on you. Not to mention, you were still pretty close to your goal and were great up to mile 24.

One thing I wonder about...why did your toes bleed? I see you do alot of barefoot running? Is that because you have shoe issues? I have been blessed with a good shoe fit early and have maintained the same style for 5+yrs.

Again, congrats and keep on keeping on. Hopefully I will see you in Dayton in September (AF Marathon).

From ryan on Tue, May 06, 2008 at 22:16:52

hey Glen, good job, sorry that the race didn't go well for you at the end. i remember that you asked me what my Bad experience was in my 2006 sgmarathon. well, i had ran 3 20-23 milers leading up to the race. when the marathon came around i hit a wall at 15 miles. i could see the writing on the wall and i slowed down. i ran a 3:28 which was slower than my long training run paces. i was really disappointed. last year in 07 my long runs were shorter(13-17)with a faster pace during the middle or second half and i did one 20 miler at about 8:00 pace until the last mile. i ended up running 3:04 and never hit the wall at all. my theory is that i had ran my tank empty on the long runs in 06 and in 07 i still had a full tank. this year i will probably focus on shorter faster runs and long runs will be just that "long and slow".

From Jill on Wed, May 07, 2008 at 00:47:24

Glad you are feeling better....I think you rock no matter what.

From josse on Wed, May 07, 2008 at 17:17:54

The one thing I have learned is you can save minutes, lots of minutes, by saving seconds in the begining. If you expend to much energy in the begining you are toast at the end. It is funner to pass at the end than to be passed. But the marathon is an extreamly hard distance. Don't be to hard on yourself, just learn for the next one. Remember why we strap those shoes on everyday and pound the pavement, because we love it:)

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