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Drumstick Dash 4.5 Miler

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Location:

New Palestine,IN,USA

Member Since:

Oct 23, 2007

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Boston Qualifier

Running Accomplishments:

5k - 18:59 (3/09)
4M - 25:06 (9/09)
10k - 41:01 (11/07)

Half - 1:25:58 (11/09)

Marathon - 3:06:33 (12/09)

Short-Term Running Goals:

1:25 for the half marathon
Sub 39:00 for the 10k.
3:07 marathon
18:30 5k

Upcoming Races



Long-Term Running Goals:

Break 3:00 for the marathon.

Personal:

Married, two daughters (18 and 15).  Masters runner trying to get competitive in my age group.

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Miles:This week: 0.00 Month: 0.00 Year: 0.00
Saucony Ride 5 (Red) Lifetime Miles: 372.70
ASICS Excel 33 Lifetime Miles: 152.00
Saucony Ride 7 Lifetime Miles: 249.00
ASICS DS Trainer Lifetime Miles: 212.20
Asics Cumulus 16 Lifetime Miles: 241.30
Race: Drumstick Dash 4.5 Miler (4.5 Miles) 00:29:04, Place overall: 107, Place in age division: 5
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.500.004.500.009.00

I ran the Thanksgiving race today. This is the first time that I have done a race on Thanksgiving. I was amazed at how many people come out on Thanksgiving day. They had around 2500 finishers plus at least that many walkers so there was a lot of people there. With this many people I wanted to get up front so I didn't have to fight through traffic at the start.

I had thought that going into this race that I would do it as a tempo workout but I guess the race enthusiasm was getting the best of me because I started thinking more about race pace and times. The weather was cool (37 degrees) and pretty windy with a misty rain.

We got off to a fast start and I didn't have any problems since I got positioned so far in the front. The problem was I went out too fast and hit the first mile in 6:03 which was way too fast. I slowed down and tired to get back into the 6:30 range. Even though I went out fast I didn't feel bad and hit the 2nd mile in 6:33 which is closer to what I was hoping for. I started feeling the results of the fast pace on the 3rd mile and came through in 6:39. I wanted to see if I could pick up my pace the last 1.5 miles because I started to feel a little better. I managed a 6:34 on the 4th mile and finished the last half mile in 3:15.

I was pretty happy with my time but I have to wonder how much faster I could have ran if I wouldn't have went out so fast. I have not ran many shorter races so I am still not comfortable establishing my early pace. It seems once I get past that first mile that I can settle into a nice pace from that point on and I don't vary that much. I just need to do a better job of getting out at the correct pace and then maybe having the energy to pick it up the last part of the race. Anyway when I ran the comparison calculator on my time this race was actually better than the 10k I did a couple of weeks ago. So I know that I am improving I just need to execute better in these races.

Comments
From MichelleL on Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 13:37:19

Nice job on this race, Jim.

I think that your splits for miles 2-4 show that you were not affected much by your fast first mile. Perhaps if you ran a 6:20 first mile, you could have kept right at 6:30 for miles 2-4 but you would have ended up with the same result. I think the goal is just to try to slow down as little as possible in the middle and you did that quite well in this race, especially by picking it up in mile 4. What's your plan for the Jingle Bell 5K?

From Sasha Pachev on Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 14:03:04

I agree with Michelle. Do not think "I went out too fast and blew my race". Rather, "If I could go out that fast while knowing I was running that far, then maybe I have a potential to run the whole distance like that if only I could unlock it".

In 2004 DesNews marathon I decided to take advantage of the early downhill and try to run away from the Kenyans knowing that I would not have a chance on less steep portions. They did not catch me until 9.5. I still finished decent, although I did pay for my fast start somewhat. It was interesting to here the evaluation of what happened from different people afterwards. The Americans were telling me I would have run better had I gone out slower. Mike Korir, one of the Kenyans I raced, said - "you were running so well, what happened?" Those were two different perspectives. The former was essentially calling me a loser that dared to poke his head in a place he did not belong. The latter was stating I had a potential and a right to get the stars that has not yet been realized.

So in the same spirit, here is what I have to say about your 6:03 mile - you were running so well, what happened?

From Jim on Sun, Nov 25, 2007 at 12:49:50

Sasha, Michelle,

Thanks for the feedback. You all have caused me to reevaluate my thoughts on the race. I think you are right about the early pace. It was probably more mental then physical. I didn't feel like I had to slow down I just thought the pace was too fast so I slowed down. Plus I didn't crash off of the pace since I was actually able to pick up the pace the last 1.5 miles. So for my next race I am going to trust how I feel more and see if I can hold the pace longer. I am still learning how to run these shorter races since I have not done many of them. Thanks again for the advice.

From James on Sun, Nov 25, 2007 at 19:45:16

Anytime that you race your first mile should be about 10 percent faster than what you want your average pace to be. You shouldn't always run for broke, but you shouldn't take it easy either, it is a tough strategy to figure out.

The more experienced you get the easier it is to not let yourself wuss out quite so fast, but you will always struggle with it, everyone does. Because anytime you run hard it will hurt. Good job though, turkey runs are fun.

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