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Location:

Preston,Id,USA

Member Since:

Mar 09, 2008

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Age Division Winner

Running Accomplishments:


2009 TOU Half Marathon 1:25:06

2010 St George Painter's Half Marathon 1:25:24

2011 Jan. St George [Painter's] Half Marathon different course 1:25:28

2011 Apr. Boston Marathon 3:03:24

2011 May Ogden 5K 18:18

2011 July 4th 15K Freedom Run 58:53

2011 July Deseret News 10K 37:12

2011 Oct St George Marathon 2:58:18

Short-Term Running Goals:

Sub 18 min. 5k

1:24  Half

 Sub 3 at St George in Oct.

Get injury free and stay that way

Set new PRs at all distances now that I'm 50

 

Long-Term Running Goals:

17:30 5K

2:50 marathon

Personal:

I was born in 1960

I started running in 2006

I am married with a 16 year old son [that lives with my wife and I] and a 30 year old step son and 25 year old step daughter

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     My calf is still a little too sore for running. I have wanted to get out on the bike but it's been raining every day and I haven't been quite motivated enough. Today I decided I was going out rain or shine. It was actually nice when I left but started raining lightly for the second half. I got into a little mud including one spot where I came very close to having to walk. 20 miles mt bike.

     A few final thoughts on the marathon:    I'm very happy with the outcome and glad I went with the strategy that I did keeping it pretty conservative for the first 17 miles. However I can't help but second guess how it would have gone had I run those first miles at a harder effort. I could have run that first 17 miles 2 or 3 minutes faster the question is how much more I would have lost in the final miles. As it was I lost about 10 seconds per mile in the last 2 miles. In reading Sasha's reports, he feels like he runs a faster time when running harder the first part and just hanging on at the end. He claims that when running the first part conservative he still has a slowdown at the end, not as bad, but not good enough to make up for the slower start. On the other hand I know 3 different people I talked to that ran the first half at St George 2 to 3 minutes faster than I did only to finish 6 to 15 minutes behind. I was tempted to go for that 2:55 but glad I played it safe. Now that I've got that sub 3 out of the way though, I may be tempted to be a little more aggressive next time especially if my final 6 weeks of training goes better.

      Some interesting notes:     My overall heart rate was 159. The first 16 miles averaged 155 bpm. The seventeenth mile was the first over 160 and I average 162 from 17 to 24. The last 3 miles went 167, 169, and 172. My final .23 kick at 5:48 pace averaged 178 and my peak heart rate during that kick was 189 which is the highest I've ever seen it that I'm confident was an accurate reading. I had previously figured my max HR around 185. My HR has climbed about the same in other marathons at the end other than the last kick which I have never done that fast at the end. I ended up running the first half in 1:30 and the second half in 1:28:18. I checked the age graded scale and my time is equivalent to a 2:38 for a  35 year old.


Comments
From JG on Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 13:55:03 from 71.59.27.33

That is funny ... 'a little mud' ... that almost brought you to a walk! :)

Hope the calf heals up quick, my calf is the one thing that scares me in going all out in a marathon! It cramped up at Mile 25 at St. George last year, and the only way I could keep going was because my BQ was on the line ... it bothered me for over a month after the race. Inexplicably, I woke up screaming with a calf cramp last Saturday ... after a week of easy running at reduced mileage! Yeah, I am nervous!

I think you ran really smart splits at St. George, to maintain sub 7's the last 10k in that heat is awesome! Congrats again on the sub 3, with room to spare no less! With cooler temps & a good training cycle, I think you could easily nail a sub 2:55 at St. George!

From Steve Piccolo on Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 15:30:31 from 155.101.146.105

I forgot to mention, awesome job on your St. George race. That is really impressive!! And good to see you at the start.

From flatlander on Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 20:18:58 from 198.207.244.102

I think if you don't run negative splits at St. George you went out too fast. I've done it both ways now and I much prefer the results from starting out easy. Maybe on a cooler day you could push it a little more, but in the heat there isn't much margin for error.

From Dave S on Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 23:00:37 from 4.254.228.147

Thanks JG and Steve. Flat, I think you're right about that. I guess it's fun to second guess and think maybe I could go out faster and have only slightly more slowdown at the end. Definitely a bigger risk especially on a hot day.

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