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Location:

St Louis,Mo,

Member Since:

Dec 16, 2007

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Other

Running Accomplishments:

PRs 1986-1989

800m-1:53

1600m 4:19

3200m-9:36

5k-15:45 

I stopped running for 15 years and picked it back up again in July of 2007. PRs since then ...

1 Mile - 5:09 (Hockey Team Timed Mile 08)

5k - 18:59 (Christian Family Services Fun Run 08)

5 miles-30:31 (Glendale Firehouse Run 08) 

6 miles-38:30 (Webster/Kirkwood Turkey Day Run 07)

10k - 40:17 (Reeds Lake 2009)

15k - 1:01:21 (Meijer Festival of Races 2009)

1/2 Marathon 1:24:55 (St. Louis Track Club Half Marathon 2008)

Marathon 3:06:07 (Boston Marathon 2009 -- Only 2nd Marathon to date)

Short-Term Running Goals:

• Build back to 6 days/week consistently

• Build mileage up to 40-45 mpw consistently

Long-Term Running Goals:

 • Sub 3:00:00 Marathon

• Sub 1:20:00 1/2 Marathon

• Sub 39:00 10k

• Sub 18:00 5k

• Sub 4:45 Mile

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9:15pm, 80 degrees and very humid. 1.5 mile warm up in 11:36 (7:44s). 4.75 in 32:38 (6:52s). .65 in 5:42 (8:45s). Then 1.5 in 11:47 (7:51s). Total run 8.4 in 1:01:45 (7:21s). The speedy portion of this run was a bit of work tonight. The humidity and dinner was working on me. I just have to find a better way to combine dinner and running. 2 hours between eating and running doesn't seem to do it. I've always been one who needs to run on a relatively empty stomach.

So, I thought that maybe I was just working too hard to only be doing 6:52s. I took the car out to measure the distance. Ugh. I should have just stuck with what I had. I knew the route I ran was 5.4 miles (4.75 + .65). However, it appears that it was more like 4.65 and . 75. So this makes the speedy portion even slower. New ppm should be 4.65 in 32:38 (7:01s) and .75 in 5:42 (7:36s). This seems more accurate, because I did not think that when I eased off the pace I dropped off nearly 2 minutes/mile. But this is a big downer to some extent. I do need to consider the heat and humidity as factors, but I wouldn't say they were any different from last thursday when I was able to bang out 5.6 miles at an average pace of 6:43. The difference must be two-fold between these two runs. First I was probably better hydrated last Thursday and Second I was running about 4 hours after dinner instead of 2. Night runs are essentially the way to go here in St Louis so I guess I'm either going to have to eat very light and then again after the run, or run later. I also need to consider the possibility that I've done too many quicker miles lately. I've had to break up my runs a bit lately due to time constraints, so when I'm only going 4 miles at a time I have a natural tendency to pick up the pace. I'm curious as to how this plays into the sort of neurological stress that Sasha often talks about. I know that studies indicate that if you take 2 groups of runners and they run the same mileage/day, but 1 group does 2-a-days and the other group just 1 run, the 2-a-day group has a tendency to get a quicker LT/AT pace as a result. I'll post a thread about this on the message board.

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Comments
From Tom on Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 13:07:59

I know if I tried to do any kind of tempo run 2 hours after dinner I would be in trouble, so I would imagine you are correct that that played a role in making the run feel harder than expected. All-in-all I think it was a still a great workout.

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