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Location:

Eatonville,WA,USA

Member Since:

Nov 01, 2007

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Age Division Winner

Running Accomplishments:

Short-Term Running Goals:

Regain consistency.

Build up slowly and come out strong.

Regain "speed" (relative)

Finish WR50 again.

Improve at Cascade Crest. 

2013 Races:

  • Capital Peak Mega Fat Ass 17M (1/19) - 2:48:48
  • Yakima Skyline Rim 50K (4/21) - 7:16:20
  • Grey Rock 50K (5/13)
  • White River 50M (7/27)
  • Cascade Crest 100M (8/24-25)

 

Long-Term Running Goals:

Find my true running potential, then exceed it.

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10 x Yasso 800 Workout.  16.57 miles in 1:59:12, 7:11/mi, HR 153.  30 minute warmup, 4.02 mi, 7:28/mi, HR 140.  10 x 800m repeats, w/ ~2:55 rest.  30 minute cooldown, 3.89 mi, 7:43/mi, HR 151.

Repeat Time
Avg HR
Max HR
12:51
162
171
22:54
166
175
3 2:56
167
177
42:52
169
177
5 2:52
168
177
6
2:55
170
179
7
2:51
169
178
8
2:54
170
176
9
2:55
169
177
10
2:54
169
177

Despite the dire weather predictions, just cloudy, fairly warm (65F), and a tad humid with no real wind (nor breeze even for the first 5 or so, which made things uncomfortable).   Again, my goal was to keep the repeats at 2:55 or under and to stay consistent.  Missed the first goal, but not by much....the one 2:56 repeat was actually 2:55.66 and was the one repeat where I had to run outside of a kid stumbling around on the inside lane of the track.  I guess part of our local HS gym class is for students to walk at their own pace around the track....once.  Wow.  Average pace for all the repeats was 2:53.5, so all were within a 2.5 second tolerance....pretty consistent.  No real fade at the end, so success on the consistency front.  The first felt easy, the second not too bad, and 3-10 were hard.  Used the mental tricks (i.e. this is my last one....promise!) for the final 3 or so.  More good news....no problems wearing the NB903 trainers....no burning on the left foot like last time.  Another solid workout in the bank (and the last set of 800s before the marathon....phew!).

4 miles in 30:39, 7:40/mi, HR 147.

Stiff from the eariler workout, with some left adductor soreness.  Took a half-mile to get past a 9 min pace.  Took until 2 miles to dip under 8.  Luckily, I finally loosened up and felt much better on the way back.  These runs make you wonder why you bother when you start and answer the question by the time you finish.

 Adrenaline 8 (Blue) 358.93 miles
 Asics 2130 (Blue)  156.70 miles
 NB 903 138.72 159.29 miles

Night Sleep Time: 8.50Nap Time: 0.00Total Sleep Time: 8.50
Comments
From cody on Thu, Oct 02, 2008 at 18:27:26

So, what is your take on the Yasso's? Do they actually predict your MP? I have always found (and heard) that 1000-1600m repeats were more beneficial. What do you think?

From Dale on Thu, Oct 02, 2008 at 18:40:07

They haven't worked for me so far :). I guess if I take the caveat "if you've properly trained for the marathon" into account, they're close. I managed to average 2:55s back in March and ran a 3:08, albeit on a hilly course in heat I wasn't accustomed to. I'm pretty sure I could've been real close to a 3 hr race under better conditions. My coach thinks Yassos about 5 minutes off, so a 2:55 set of repeats equals a 3 hr marathon.

I think they (800m repeats) have some value. I know they kick the c**p out of me, physically. I haven't done much in the way of longer repeats/tempo work this buildup outside of the two half marathon's I raced, and so far I've avoided the staleness that got me last time around. My training logs show I peaked in March, which would've been great except my marathon was in May....I got really flat. So this time around I did a lot of leg speed stuff, overspeed stuff and stayed away from the longer repeats/tempos...I've got a few in sets in the last few weeks to help bring me to a peak, so we'll see if it works.

But regardless, the 800s are a good hard workout for me and since I did manage to improve some over a month ago, another (needed) confidence builder. I *hate* the track and avoid it at all costs, preferring to run fartleks instead, but every once in a while it's nice to get a more precise measurement.

A long meandering ramble indicative of low brain blood sugar from running around a track a couple of hours ago, supposedly in response to your question....

From Dale on Thu, Oct 02, 2008 at 18:44:24

Here, this 'splains it mo betta...

http://www.mcmillanrunning.com/marathonpredictors.htm

From cody on Thu, Oct 02, 2008 at 18:59:01

clear as mudd

From Dale on Thu, Oct 02, 2008 at 19:13:58

Everyone's a critic.....especially those that have way too much time on the hands while tapering....

From mattrow on Fri, Oct 03, 2008 at 09:23:43

I like you workout infact is very simular to the speed work that I did before NWP. Except I was only doing 6 reps. I was planning on working my self up to do 10 to 12 800 under 6 minutes.

This is also the workout the Allie used to get ready for the TOU, which she won and beat here PR by over 10 minutes.

I can see a sub 3 hour marathon coming your way.

From mattrow on Fri, Oct 03, 2008 at 09:25:52

did I say 6 minutes I ment 3 minutes.

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