Old Man Still running

The way you're going I think you'll end up passing your last years miles, even with the injury you had to deal with earlier this year. Nice job.

Nice job with the miles!

Give me your ultra expertise opinion. I am running TOU marathon, then Ogden Valley 50 miler 5 weeks later (which will be my only 50+ mile race prior to Rocky Raccoon). I am a bit nervous about going into the 50 without having done any distances over the marathon other than Logan Peak 28 miles, even though I am just treating the 50 as a training run rather than all out race.

Here is the question- do you think I should try to squeeze in a 30-35 mile run 2 weeks before the 50 miler to help transition to the longer runs? Or should I just go into the 50 miler with only marathon length training?

You are probably asking the wrong guy because your speed it at a totally foreign level for me. But here is my guess. Your current mileage base is huge. I think you would have no problem running a 100-miler tomorrow. I'm guessing however, that recovery would be faster if you were doing more long runs. Doing a 50K two weeks before a 50 isn't a problem...depends on how fast you run it. Doing it slow would be helpful....its about time on your feet. But again, with your huge mileage base, I think that is already taken care of. Holt did super at Squaw Peak 50 and I bet he wasn't doing runs longer than marathon. He also has a huge mileage base.

One week after TOU is Bear 100 in your neck of the woods. Any interest in doing some miles with me as a pacer?

More comments about recovery. My mileage base is less than yours and less than many people who do one or two 100s per year. However, because I do so many very long runs (8 100s and several 50s) each year, I can recover very fast from 100s, while others with a higher mileage base can't. I'll do Wasatch and Bear two weeks apart and shouldn't really feel ill effects at Bear. However, I don't run at the speed you do. At your speed, concentrate hard on fueling properly. Note what happened to Kyle Skaggs ten days ago at WW100K.

Davy-

Holt actually was crazier than me in his training- he was doing 150 mile weeks and 50+ mile training runs for Squaw.

I have actually thought a lot about pacing someone at Bear. I will be working the Leatham Hollow aid station that morning, but will be free in the evening and would be interested in pacing. My only concern is that there is a chance I would have to back out at the last minute if I felt I wasn't at least partly recovered from TOU or was risking injury. And I would probably limit myself to 20-30 miles (i.e. maybe Tony Grove to Logan River). Maybe 20. Would that interest you?

Jon, that would be great if you could pace some at Bear. Last year I arrived at Tony Grove at 7:18 p.m. This year it probably will be about 45 minutes earlier. Let's play it by ear right now. I haven't made any serious plans yet. Usually my brother paces large chunks of the Bear with me, but I haven't heard from him yet.