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Location:

Ogden,UT,

Member Since:

Nov 21, 2009

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

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Running Accomplishments:

Finished my first 100 miler in '10, the Bear 100 in 26:05. 

55K 5:13

50 mile 7:47

Big Horn 100 Mile 24:54

 Squaw Peak 50:

2009: 13:48 (140th OA)

2010: 11:06 (26th OA)

2011: 10:01 (7th OA)

 

Short-Term Running Goals:

2012 schedule:

Red Hot 50K+  (5:23)

Buffalo Run 50 mile (7:47, 1st AG, 7th OA)

R2R2R

Squaw Peak 50 mile (11:40)

Big Horn 100 Mile (DNS)

Loco

Bear 100

Chimera 100

Zion Travers (Done)

Long-Term Running Goals:

God created skis and surfboards to keep the truly gifted from ruling the world.

I've finally let go of my preconceived notions of what it's supposed to feel like to run. - Geoff Roes

 

"If I had eight hours to chop down a tree; I'd spend six of them sharpening the axe." Abe Lincoln

 

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Race: Ogden Marathon (26.2 Miles) 03:41:00

The story of this race really began on Friday night for me.  A week or so ago I got offered a spot in the Ogden Marathon, but  I had completely written off running with my friend’s # due to a strained soleus/calf  that knocked me out on Monday.  So, driving home from work at 5:30 on Friday night my phone rings and it’s the girl I was going to get an Ogden Marathon entry from asking if I wanted her packet and number?. . . . .. Hmmm?? . . ., strained Soleus felt o.k. on my walk Thursday night??? Maybe?? . . . . My answer was  “let me get back to you in an hour or so.”  Got home,  and the packet and number were already there waiting . . .dang it! More pressure! I put on my shoes and went for a walk/run on the trails to see how things felt . . .after about 5 miles I thought  “not bad, a little tight, but I could probably pull it off. 

Me being me,  I hemmed  around about making a full commitment to myself all night.  Did I really want to risk further injury for a race I had no intention of running and have not really thought about much at all?  About 9:30 last night I got my stuff together, set it out like I was doing a long run and, still not totally committed, went to bed and set the alarm for 4:00 AM. 

Alarm went off, I thought naaah, hit snooze and went to sleep.  Then the thought hit me, “if I go to the finish to watch my wife’s friends run I’ll kick myself all day for not running.”  Got up, grabbed breakfast and my gear and I was out the door, hurt calf, no taper, poor diet and all.   I had no idea what pace I could run or what to expect really, I just haven’t run for speed or on flat, smooth ground for a long time.  A good fun, training run is all I kept thinking.

I got to the start pretty late and ran into my brother-in-law at the bathroom line.  I think they could put 1000 toilets up there and there would still be a 20 minute line.  We talked, the line didn’t move, the race start got down to 2 minutes,  then 30 seconds, then me running across the field as the train of runners poured through the start.  I stood at the start line banner for a minute or so and waited for a friend I knew was running and said hi and good luck to several friends as they went by.  I jumped in with my friend and we talked and ran slow for a ½ mile or so, I sped up a little, looked back and she was gone.  Bummer,  we have run together the other two times I have run this, the 1st time she  literally pulled me to a 3:46 finish in my first, and off the couch, marathon. 

Story gets short from here out.  Felt good on the down hills at the start, no calf issues.  Running on pavement on purpose for literally the first time in a year sucked!  Sorry to you guys who like it, no offence.  I read on Davey’s report that he ran on the dirt shoulder when he could and sped up when he did, I had the exact same experience, only my experience was about 1:00 p/mile slower than his experience.  Splits for the first 8 miles were consistently between 7:40 and 7:50, which I was good with.

Mile 8-9 or so is where the story gets short.  My calf started to flare up bad after only a few miles on the flatter part of the course.  I thought,  first, “slow down”, second “stop at the next aid station and wait for you bro-in-law and run/walk at his slower pace to the half point where he had a car parked.”  By the water station it felt a little better so I kept going, then it would flare again, and I would think “ok stop” then “why not just get to the half.”  On and on like this for 4-5 miles. 

At that point, and for the rest of the race it was really in my head, I was worried about messing up my whole summer over one dumb, unplanned run.  My splits dropped immediately from high 7’s to mid to high 8’s.  Except for a few slow miles, that’s where they stayed the rest of the race.  My gate felt weird, between the knee I hurt skiing and now right soleus/calf strain, my poor left leg has had to carry my  injured right all year.  Most of my acceleration was coming from my left leg and I could feel my left hip and hamstring aching all the way through the rest of the run.  Oreo, on his marathon report, said about his ITB issues, “one leg says go the other says whoa!” Perfect description.   

I was hammered at the end.  Last two miles were rough.  Marathon’s are very hard for sure.  I’ll take 50 miles on dirt anytime, much easier.  It was good to run a couple of miles with friends along the way and see even more at the finish.  The weather was perfect, beautiful day.  I finished somewhere around 3:41, I forgot to stop my watch and haven’t seen my chip time.  I qualified the girl whose number I had for Boston, not that she would run, but she’ll have fun explaining that to friends and family for a few days.  I managed a marathon PR and hit the half at about 1:46 which is also an unofficial PR.  Given the craziness of it all, I am totally happy with how it went.  My calf is tight and a little painful and my left leg is going to be sore tomorrow, but it should all recover o.k. for Squaw Peak in a few weeks, I hope.  (oh ya, I’m OFF the wait list and in the race!)  If not , I’m sure I’ll be dumb/stubborn enough to be out there anyway.   

 

Comments
From Oreo on Sun, May 16, 2010 at 10:10:20 from 174.27.179.106

Squaw - baby!! Way to tough it out. I was happy you decided to run it.. Booth said he saw you!! Squaw or bust - my friend.

From Aaron Kennard on Sun, May 16, 2010 at 11:39:15 from 174.51.250.151

Haha ha. That was a funny report. I was really surprised to see you reporting on this since you had just posted about yoru calf issue.

Nice job on a PR despite the issues. It seems to be the general consensus among those who do more trail running that pavement running just doesn't quite live up to the joy of running on trails.

That's interesting to hear that 50 miles on dirt seems easier to you than 26 on the road. Especially since the dirt race includes tons of elevation gain/loss. Why do you think that is the case?

From Kelli on Sun, May 16, 2010 at 12:57:20 from 71.219.75.178

I think that is amazing that you two run faster in the dirt! I run on the dirt when I can, but I have to slow my pace down so I do not trip and land on my head. Very amazing!

Take care of the aches and pains and best of luck to you in 3 weeks!

From Bryce on Sun, May 16, 2010 at 17:33:05 from 174.52.190.220

Nick, Squaw for sure there will be no bust! Nice job on your painful finish as well.

Aaron, thanks for the congrats. 50 miles is easier (relative) for me because it's a different pace. Marathons (at least the whole 3 I have run) are short enough that you have to run fast (or sorta fast in my case) On the trail miles and time go quickly for me, at a marathon, or any road race, it's just hanging on from mile marker to mile marker, I'm just not that tough mentally. That's what it really comes down to for me, I get excited about running over rough terrain and very unmotivated chasing time on the road, thoug I can see how some would get very motivated by that, just not my personality. The fun part of trail running makes it feel easier and the road just beats me to death and I want it to be over. As for the elevation change, again, breaks it up, mentally and physically, which, again, comes down to keeping my wandering mind entertained. Long explantion for what boils down to me being a hedonist.

Keli,to be fair, the dirt in this case was very flat and smooth. I think my legs just liked the softer surface. Thanks for the good wishes for Squaw Peak.

From Aaron Kennard on Sun, May 16, 2010 at 17:55:06 from 174.51.250.151

That's interesting to hear your difference in thought process on road vs. trail running. Its pretty similar for me I think. But there have been many times when I have absolutely loved running on the roads. Flat and fast, and just loving it. And then lately, my perspective has shifted to loving mountain running a lot more. I think its partially because when we're running on the road, we have in our minds a recent amazing mountain run and so the comparison can make the flat road running seem like drudgery. But I wonder if changing our thoughts, perspective, and expectations can change the road running experience. I don't know...because at this point I'm pretty much just addicted to mountain running and not really jumping out of my skin to do a road race per se. But I'm going to give it a shot to put myself back into road running mindset during the upcoming bolder boulder 10K and see how it goes.

From Bryce on Sun, May 16, 2010 at 20:42:49 from 174.52.190.220

Aaron, good luck and boulder boulder, I hear that is HUGE race! I'm sure road vs trail is mostly mental and there is alot to be said about the joy in crusing fast and smooth on even terrain. Funny thing is I love road biking for that very reason, but am not a huge fan of mtn biking due to the herk jerky nature of it, cant get in a groove. Just like road vs mtn biking, I think the most fit/fast runners are probably roadies, it seems to take huge discipline and commitment to run a fast marathon. Most of the top mtn runners seem to have a much more laid back approach to training. (not that they aren't extremely fit and talented too) After seeing how fast people were Saturday, I think I may add a little more pure speed work to the mix, and in doing may find joy on the pavement again.

From jun on Mon, May 17, 2010 at 11:07:35 from 205.158.160.209

Nice job on the marathon poach. I was there pacing my mom in the half for about 3 miles. We stuck around at the finish and would have been there when you came through, but I didn't know you were running and wouldn't have thought to look for you. Nice PR. I don't need to comment on the trail/road discussion. If you've seen my temple run video you know my opinion. Ha.

From Scott Wesemann on Mon, May 17, 2010 at 12:19:19 from 66.239.250.209

Very nice race even though you didn't plan for it at all. I hope everything heals up quick for you. I enjoyed the report.

From Kelli on Mon, May 17, 2010 at 14:26:45 from 71.219.75.178

Dirt is dirt!

From Bryce on Tue, May 18, 2010 at 00:04:30 from 174.52.190.220

Jun, Thanks! I read your report on your mom's run, congrats to her! sorry i missed you at the finish

Scott, It was a fun race, thanks, right calf is pretty achey today, not much muscle soreness though, I think all will heal up just fine.

From ultrajim on Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:46:02 from 138.64.8.52

Bryce, good job on the marathon. I'm with you, 50 on dirt is easier than 26.2 on the road for the same reasons. I didn't think about running on the shoulder, that might have helped me. As I was running on the west side of Pineview I couldn't help but look up at the mountains and wish I was up there instead of on the road. Looking forward to the Timp Trail marathon this weekend and Pocatello 50 next.

From mozzer on Wed, May 19, 2010 at 02:30:29 from 67.188.156.167

nice race Bryce, I didn't realize it but we must have finished almost together, I was 3:41:15, was that you acting like an airplane as you finished right in front of me? funny, tried to catch you but my legs were done, make sure ole. Nick survives Squaw for me. Hairdog finished his first full nicely

From Bryce on Wed, May 19, 2010 at 09:37:18 from 174.52.190.220

Thanks Jim, I too thought about taking a left at the dam and heading up Wheeler's! That race schedual will keep you busy for a couple of weeks, geeze 2 marathons and a 50 in three weeks, ouch! Guess that's why you are ultrajim, good luck in both the upcoming.

Mozzer, Nick will be fine at squaw, I think I'll be trying to catch him and Booth! Nice job to you out there, you were probably ahead of me, I think the clock time when I finished was 3:43-44 or so because I started late. No airplane antics by this guy, barley had the energy to keep running at that point. Glad you guys have much more influence on the HD than I do, I tried for a couple of years to get him to commit to a full marathon. Glad he did it, and in good fashion.

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