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Location:

Tucson,AZ,USA

Member Since:

Aug 30, 2007

Gender:

Female

Goal Type:

Age Division Winner

Running Accomplishments:

PR's

5K: 21:26 (2005)

4 mile: 28:10 (2005)

10K: 43:33 (2010)

10 mile: 1:13:35 (2009) (1:12:15 split in 1/2 marathon, 2011)

1/2 marathon: 1:34:31 (2011)

marathon: 3:19:15 (2013)

Short-Term Running Goals:

 

3:20 marathon - Eugene Marathon, April 28, 2013 (can I say I really want a sub 3:20? but I will be happy with 3:20-3:23) -- whoohoo!

Some good intermediate races 15K - 1/2 marathon, to gauge my fitness level (done this, hit a 1:34:35 1/2 marathon in March 2013, on a hilly course)

Going after my 10 mile PR in Fall 2013

Maybe some good 10K races after the infernal Arizona summer is over! 




Long-Term Running Goals:

I want to be one of those runners who is still running in their 80s (or 90s?).  You know the ones, who look all grisley and fit?  That is what I would like!  Until then, I just want to work hard and be as fast as I can, for as long as I can.


Personal:

50 year old, trying to defy gravity and time

Used to be faculty at the University of Arizona (biostatistics).  Currently manager of the statistics and data management group for companion diagnostics (biomarkers) at Ventana Medical Systems, Inc. (Roche diagnostics).  We evaluate protein biomarkers that can be used to direct drug therapy that would be most effective based on individual characteristics (personalized medicine).

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Race: Eugene Marathon (26.2 Miles) 03:30:28, Place overall: 46, Place in age division: 4
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Not quite the negative split I had in mind, but what did I know? Overall the course was ok. It was flat, but the surface was uneven and the bike lane portions were not great until the end (when I did not really notice them). Lot's of turns, there were a couple of spots in the early miles (8-12 or so) where I thought I was going to fall, lots of jostling and elbows flying in some of the tighter turns. There were a lot of marathoners that missed the marathon turn off at mile 11 (some might have actually missed 4 miles of the marathon course) - the bike path was really narrow and there was a lot of back-up caused by the marathoners coming up to their mile 15 and running into marathoners coming into their mile 11. But, all and all it was ok. I did almost do a face plant at mile 16 or so, we were running on brick speed bumps! wow. I did not see the first one and tripped as I was looking longingly at what I thought might be a bathroom.

Marathons are really hard. My legs started cramping up at 21-22 miles ... I didn't really slow down until mile 23-24, and then my gel must have kicked in because I was able to get a couple sub 8:00 miles in there. But I have to say miles 22-25 were the hardest miles I have ever run at any pace. I am both disappointed and happy with my time ... but I am very happy it is over. Funny thing that Dean said, and I agree, in his first marathon he was disappointed that his legs kept hurting after he stopped running -- usually, when your legs hurt during a race it feels so much better when you stop running -- but not today. I stopped and geez, they still hurt ;-).

Anyway -- I finished my first marathon and now I am a marathoner.

ok ... so here goes:

Raining at the start - luckily stopped raining soon after the race started - couldn't really ask for better weather the rest of the time (other than cold, wet feet and chafing due to wet shorts).

miles 1-6: 8:25, 7:41, 7:46, 8:05, 8:12 (gu)

start was packed, I didn't want to spend a lot of energy trying to catch the pacer ... so I just kept them in view and relaxed. The pacer was really not very good, he kept speeding up and then when the split was too fast he would slow down and we would all bunch up. At mile 6 I just decided to run my own race and did not follow the pacer.

miles 7-13: 7:40, 8:05, 7:57, 8:06 (hill, gu), 7:49 (13.1 1:44:55)

at mile 11 we separated from the 1/2 marathoners and we did this little 4 mile loop (on a bike path) - things did get spread out here but then we actually hooked back up with the 1/2 at their mile 11 - which was bad because all of a sudden there were a bunch of people on the bike path again who were running about 2 mins/mile slower and we had to go around them and it got pretty packed up. I was not feeling bad at this point, I wasn't actually feeling like it was "easy" but I was talking to this nice woman from Portland for a while.

miles 14-20: 8:07, 7:57, 7:53, 8:03, 8:05 (gu), 7:57, 8:01

stayed with this one group until about 18 and then I lost my Portland friend at a water stop. I was happy there were only 6 miles left!

miles 21-26: 8:00, 15:55 (7:57 average, gu at 22), 8:04, 8:27, 7:58

I really did not feel good here at all, lots of things hurt. By the time I hit mile 23 my right quad was hurting really bad and I felt pretty sick. I really don't remember a whole lot about the specifics here. Lots of guys (I remember mainly guys - I think it was because there were more men in front of me than women) stopping in this section. Dean jumped in at 23 to run the last 3 miles with me - I don't remember much but everyone was yelling how strong I looked and we must of passed 10 -15 people from 24-25 ... it was not because I felt good I was totally running on autopilot and felt really crappy. I just wanted to make it to 25 because Dean told me that once I got there I would know I could finish (I believed him). I made a pathetic attempt at a sprint at the finished and managed to pass 3 people in the 1/4 mile finishing chute, I think they had given up.

There you go. I guess I never actually "fell apart", I just did not execute things the exact way I had envisioned (who does? everyone warned me about this!). There were lots of "micro runs" (e.g., ebb and flow of the run). I don't think it ever actually felt "easy", if I had to do anything differently in my training I think I would add some much longer runs (24-26) and some longer MP runs. I think I would have been a little stronger at the end, but maybe not, maybe you just have to get through it the first time.

Thank you all for your support over the past few months and all the sweet messages today!

Comments
From marion on Sun, May 03, 2009 at 15:45:49 from 71.219.50.242

WOW Bonnie! What an amazing debut marathon! HOLY COW!!! (funny about the legs, but not really ;)

CONGRATULATIONS!!!! That is just an AWESOME time!!

From Fritz on Sun, May 03, 2009 at 16:07:01 from 65.100.192.74

Congrats on your first marathon! They only get easier from here. :)

From Bill Mandler on Sun, May 03, 2009 at 16:37:09 from 24.119.13.42

CONGRATULATIONS!!! Not too many people run a Boston Qualifying time in their FIRST marathon. WAY TO GO!!!

From allie on Sun, May 03, 2009 at 16:48:47 from 208.110.151.113

i am so happy for you, bonnie! what a great time...anxious to hear the details. yes, marathons ARE really hard...but you conquered it! congratulations!

From MichelleL on Sun, May 03, 2009 at 16:56:19 from 71.219.40.17

Great job Bonnie! I look forward to the long version of the report.

From Lucia on Sun, May 03, 2009 at 17:04:57 from 98.204.55.168

You are awesome girl! Congratulations!!! The pain is going to stop in a few days, don't worry... you should take an ice bath! It really does work! Enjoy the celebration!

From barry on Sun, May 03, 2009 at 17:13:09 from 208.98.172.42

CONGRATULATIONS, you did awesome!! Now i would suggest taking an ice bath. I think that would help with the leg pain. Also the first marathon is the ice breaker now enjoy it and have a great day!

From Metcalf Running on Sun, May 03, 2009 at 17:55:07 from 71.219.148.114

WHOOOO HOoOoO!! So cool and congratulations on your first marathon, you are awesome!!! Sorry to hear that you are a bit disappointed with your time, but I think you are fantastic!

From Mark on Sun, May 03, 2009 at 18:46:04 from 97.96.155.154

Great job! It is a wonderful feeling to get that first one done.

From Jon on Sun, May 03, 2009 at 19:07:53 from 75.169.142.109

Nice job! You are indeed a marathoner, and a pretty fast one at that! And yes, your experiences with the hard miles plus the pain afterwards are normal. Wait till you have to walk up or down some stairs tomorrow!

From JD on Sun, May 03, 2009 at 19:57:53 from 32.176.106.90

Congratulations! What a fast debut. Good job!

From rockness18 on Sun, May 03, 2009 at 20:56:02 from 75.9.135.162

Pretty impressive debut! You are quite the marathoner. Looking forward to the full report.

From Carolyn in Colorado on Sun, May 03, 2009 at 22:24:03 from 71.229.164.25

Yippeeeeee! Way to go!!! You ran an awesome race and really toughed it out. You are certainly a marathoner, and a dang fast one at that!

From Eric Day on Sun, May 03, 2009 at 22:31:04 from 189.169.220.15

Way to go Bonnie. Super!

Great time for your first marathon.

From MichelleL on Sun, May 03, 2009 at 23:12:20 from 71.219.40.17

This was a great race for you. Your slowest mile was only 27 sec off, and it was only for one mile (not a string of miles together like some of us have been known to do).

The problem with the much longer long runs in training is that they take longer to recover from and those distances increase chance of injury. It's hard to not fall apart though without training runs that long/intense.

From luzylew on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 00:14:51 from 69.169.165.206

You are a rock star. That was a great marathon, and it was an inspiration to read how hard you ran. Thanks for posting your experience. It gives me something to think about. The rolling pin and a good massage can help work out the legs, at least those things work for me. Awesome job.

From Brent on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 08:37:42 from 168.178.30.75

Bonnie, 1,000 commando points for your first marathon and another 1,000 for the BQ. Guts and Glory, way to go.

Stay Kool, B of BS Rools out

By the way, how much did the rain affect your race, wet shoes, chaffing, etc.

From montelepsy on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 08:58:46 from 155.85.58.253

Nice work, Bonnie! You probably did so well from the foundation you built doing Tae-bo, plus all the hay in your rear.

From jtshad on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 09:53:42 from 204.134.132.225

Congrats on a great marathon debut! What a fantastic time. First marathons are a true learning experience...you can never be quite prepared for miles 20-26. Way to run a gutsy finish. You did awesome!

From Barry on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 12:19:42 from 67.61.234.251

Did you try the ice bath yet?

From Burt on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 13:37:02 from 68.76.197.194

Bonnie!!!! All that hard work paid off. I've told myself that I don't really want to run another marathon unless I'm confident I can qualify for Boston. We'll see if I actually hold to that because you've inspired me.

Hay!

From Andrew Anderson on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 14:18:20 from 65.96.53.23

Excellent job! The first mary is the toughest. It's impossible to mimic the feeling of the last 10k in training. It sounds like you held it together pretty well actually. Now that it's under your belt, you'll know what to expect.

From april27 on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 14:49:48 from 143.43.10.118

Great job on the age placement--so will you run another?

From Kelli on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 15:09:48 from 71.219.98.156

Bonnie----you did GREAT! You are a marathoner. They are really hard, and no matter what, I am not sure you are ever fully prepared. Every race is different, some days you have it some days you don't! You know how that goes with running. I think the first marathon is just a learning experience and you will be amazed at how great you feel on that next one. BUT that is an awesome time---and IN MY DREAMS time!!!!

From Snoqualmie on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 16:30:25 from 67.171.56.164

Can I have your autograph? Dang, I should have gotten it while I had the chance!

Congratulations on a great achievement! You are an amazing runner and a wonderful person!

From Little Bad Legs on Mon, May 04, 2009 at 19:03:01 from 68.186.96.165

Great job!

From Bonnie on Tue, May 05, 2009 at 01:01:50 from 71.210.112.242

Thank you so much you guys. You have all inspired and encouraged me so much over the past year, I feel that I know so many of you. I really appreciate you. It is so nice when we actually do meet!

Michelle - agree, it is a fine line between training "enough" and training too "much". Basically Ritz talked about this at the expo (I got him to sign my race shirt, very cool).

Barry -- I should have taken an ice bath, but frankly, I was so cold from being wet for so long (because of the rain and water that was splashed around on the course) that I was seriously cold after I got back to my hotel room. I don't think I could have gotten into a bath of ice (I was shivering).

April -- don't know if I will do another or not. I would like to keep my options open, but right now I am not excited about the prospect ;-) (especially since I can't really walk very well).

Wow Brent 1000 commando points? that is so cool, and the most you have ever given me! Thanks.

Montelepsy - I think a load of hay is necessary!

Thanks Carolyn! I can't wait to hear about your debut, you will do fabulous.

Thanks again everyone - I will be touching base with you individually soon!

From josse on Tue, May 05, 2009 at 13:51:07 from 70.193.180.150

Way to go, this is an awesome 1st marathon. It took me several tries to get a 3:30. You ran very even and stayed strong through the end. It is hard to hold on to a pace at the end when you feel crappy. The end almost never get easier, but once in a while things align just right and we have those break through finishes. Great job on your first!!

From Bonnie on Tue, May 05, 2009 at 16:15:34 from 128.196.228.134

Thanks Josse, so you don't believe it may be my last? I am not so sure!

From Julie on Tue, May 05, 2009 at 17:02:10 from 71.35.241.219

What an amazing time for your first marathon. Great Job!!!

From Kelli on Tue, May 05, 2009 at 18:14:55 from 71.219.98.88

I said my first marathon was my last, and I actually quit running for almost 5 months. Yet, here I am.

I DO NOT BELIEVE IT IS YOUR LAST! 3:30 for a first marathon, now the learning curve is over and you are ready to rock a marathon! (Actually 3:30 is already rocking a marathon for me!!!)

From MichelleL on Tue, May 05, 2009 at 21:02:07 from 71.219.40.17

Hey even if you aren't running we'd like to hear how your legs are doing. You going to take a week or two off?

From rockness18 on Tue, May 05, 2009 at 21:14:46 from 75.9.135.162

Sasha's going to have to put you in the "Top Runners" category. Your time places you in the top 11 or 12 female runners on the blog. Nice!

From Sasha Pachev on Wed, May 06, 2009 at 15:38:34 from 192.168.1.1

Congratulations on a young lady's BQ from the first try!

I would not call a less than 1 minute positive split "falling apart". By that definition I fell apart in almost every one of my 45 marathons, including the ones when I PRed. You should expect the last 6 miles to be hard even if you are a natural negative splitter, and are actually running a negative split. A lot of times even a negative splitter will be weaker in the last miles. If he is not, he probably did not run fast enough midrace.

Some time just for fun try to go through the first half in 1:40 and see what happens. If you are not a natural negative splitter, that would produce 3:26 if you are in the same shape as in this race.

From Bonnie on Wed, May 06, 2009 at 15:44:02 from 128.196.228.134

Thanks Sasha, though I had to giggle at your "just for fun" - the last 6 miles of this race were so painful, I can't imagine what it would have felt like if I had gone out at 1:40 pace (even though my training had suggested I could) ... maybe I will try that in a 1/2 sometime. Do they really get easier or are some people marathoners and some people not? I think that my training paid off with respect to the last 6 miles - but it was a lot of training, I don't know how much more I could do to get a better time (maybe 10 more miles/week and a few more long 20+ runs). Thanks again!

From jefferey on Mon, May 18, 2009 at 00:59:09 from 67.171.56.220

That's your first marathon? You killed it!! Great run!

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