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Woods Cross,UT,USA

Member Since:

May 01, 2006

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Age Division Winner

Running Accomplishments:

Current Running Life:
5k: 17:50 (2010 NSL)
10k: 38:20 (2007 Des News)
1/2 Marathon: 1:23:30 (2009 Provo Half)
Marathon: 2:53:46 (2007 St George)

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Race: Park City Marathon (26.2 Miles) 03:13:00, Place overall: 9, Place in age division: 2
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Park City Marathon 2008

My main goal for this race was to finally have a race where I was able to finish strong. I started out too fast in both of the marathons I have run this year and ended up crashing and struggling the last few miles. I was really craving that feeling of pounding out some fast splits during the last 10K of a marathon. My time goal was something around 3:10 because of the nature of the course. As far as other goals that I set for the race, I wanted to finish in the top 10 overall, top 3 in my age group and move into 3rd place overall in the Grand Slam standings. Since Walter wasn’t going to be running this race, all that I had to do was hold off the guy that is 2 minutes behind me and I would move into 3rd.

I don’t have my watch with me so I can’t give any splits but will try to give an overall feeling of the race. I started the race with the lead pack but didn’t feel like I was working very hard. I kept looking at my Garmin to make sure that I wasn’t starting too fast and the pace was right where I wanted it to be. I let them (6 runners) pull away as we approached the first mile marker and I crossed it in 6:45 (about 5 seconds behind the front runners). I’m not sure why they started so slow. I guess they were just trying to get a feel for the race. Second mile had a little climbing in it and I let the lead pack pick up another 10 seconds on me. After the second mile, they decided to drop the hammer and I didn’t see them again.

A runner in orange shorts pulled ahead of me by about 30 seconds over the next few miles and I was running with a couple of other guys. I was able to put a little distance on them on the uphills and they made up the difference on the downhills. Somewhere around mile 6, I realized that I was really tense through my shoulders and tried to settle into a more relaxed pace. This helped and I started making up ground on the orange shorted runner. A guy from Boston came up alongside of me and I decided to hitch a ride with him until I got past Orange Shorts. I ran with him for a few miles and we were able to get past the targeted runner. Most of my splits were around 7:15/mile. This was just right for the steady, gradual uphill that we were running. I was feeling alright except that I was a little light headed and felt bloated. I started getting concerned that my body wasn’t absorbing and processing the Gatorade, gels and everything else that I had eaten the past couple of days. As we started the slightly steeper climb through miles 10-13 the Boston runner and a runner in a red shirt started gapping me. My hope was that the altitude would be too much for the Boston runner and I would be able to catch him once the downhill started. I hit the half in exactly 1:36:00 and was in 9th place so I felt like I was right on target for my goals.

As I started to make my way to Deer Valley, my legs started to hurt. I was wearing Zensah compression sleeves on my lower legs and they felt great but my hamstrings were really burning. I tried to focus on keeping my form as smooth and comfortable as possible but I was fighting a lot of negative thoughts. After hitting the Deer Valley parking lot we turned back towards Park City and I was happy for the downhill. Apparently the 2 runners ahead of me were more happy because they were able to gap me. As the course looped back, we started passing the runners going up to Deer Valley. This got my adrenaline going and I was able to pick up my pace. Almost every runner that I passed was encouraging which was really nice.

Ran through the open air mall in Park City then made a turn towards the one block that I was dreading the entire race. It is a nasty climb that is short but incredibly steep. When I ran this race in 2006, the course went the other direction and we came down this hill. Going up it was not going to be fun. **WARNING: If you don’t want to lose all respect for me, don’t read the next 2 sentences. As I started up the hill, I realized that walking would be faster and would take less energy. I made the tactical decision to walk for approximately 10 yards going up the hill. Now is the time that I was hoping to start hammering out some good splits. Unfortunately, my legs had different plans. As with the 2 prior marathons this year, my legs were fried and I was just hoping to maintain anything that resembled a decent pace. For the next few miles, I was averaging 7:15 despite the general downhill nature of the course (was hoping for 6:50’s). The Boston runner was out of sight but the guy in red was still there (probably 45- 60 seconds ahead of me). I was able to keep him in sight so he must have been struggling as bad as I was. Every once in a while I would consider picking up the pace to catch him but when I did it hurt too bad and I slowed down. I slowly started to get closer to him but really started to suffer the last 2 miles and wasn’t able to catch him. I think that my pace slowed to 7:30-7:40 for the last 2 miles.

Crossed the finish line in exactly 3:13:00 so I ran the 2nd half in 1:37:00. I missed my time goal and I wasn’t really pleased with how I felt at the end but I’m trying to look at things in a different perspective and not be so negative. I was able to meet all 3 goals in this race (top 10 overall, top 3 in AG and maintain my position in the GS standings).

So, I can’t figure out if I’m not cut out for this marathon thing, if I have unrealistic expectations, or if this is just how the last 8 miles of a marathon are supposed to feel and I need to do a better job at pushing through the discomfort. Now I have to try and figure out my goals for TOU and SGM.

Comments
From Tom on Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 17:18:38

Andy - PCM is one tough course even without the altitude which makes it that much tougher. I think 3:13 is a pretty decent time and you hit the 3 goals so you gotta be happy about that. Also running as many marathons as you're doing this year it's really tough to stay in tip-top race condition, all-in-all I think you're doing great. Good luck at TOU and SGM.

From Jon on Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 17:19:19

Hey, good job today, Andy. You got 9th place, 2nd in division. You ran strong. The last miles of a marathon are hard, no matter how well you prepare.

My philosophy is if walking is 80-90% as fast as running, do it (on a long race). Let's your legs and heart take a short break and wisely conserves your energy for when it can be more efficiently spent. I walked up a few hills this week in training- it's called being smart and efficient. Nice work.

From cody on Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 17:38:23

I think marathons are miserable for everyone. Sorry to disappoint. It doesn't get any better/easier. At least when you are running your best.

Good effort and way to be smart and conserve energy. Do you want some company for the second half of TOU? I was thinking about running the 5K then running up the course to run with someone to get a long run in. Anyway, something to think about....Enjoy the fruits of this race first!

From Andy on Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 17:46:21

Cody - Sounds like a good plan. I will need somebody to give me a swift kick in the *** when I start slacking off in the second half. I may not be running as fast as you want, though. I'm hoping to just sneak under 3 hours at TOU.

From cody on Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 17:59:25

Your pace would be perfect for me. Those last 5 miles are tough at TOU. It would be an honor...

From Superfly on Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 18:47:41

Park City is a tough marathon and you ran it very good today. Good job on making the top 10. Don't worry about the walking thing. Going up hills like that is hard and sometimes walking is faster and easier at the same time. Also just hang in there and you'll figure out how to close the deal on a marathon. I go into every marathon with the goal of negative splitting. It doesn't always happen but thats my theory. Just try to keep a little more in the tank for that second half and then hammer it home.

From Dale on Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 19:37:13

Good job today. Whatever gets you to the finish as quickly as possible, including walking up killer hills, if a perfectly acceptable game plan. I first learned about walking hills on my first one when I was passed by a walker while I was running! Needless to say, sometimes it's the better/faster/more efficient way.

If the looks on the ladies faces in the Women's Olympic Marathon were any indication, the last 10K is never easy. I've only had 1 marathon where I wasn't completely miserable in the final 10K and I don't know what the trick was to get in that zone....if I ever figure it out again, I'll share it!

Good job sticking with it and achieving some of your race goals!

From Michelle N. on Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 20:10:24

Great job Andy! You are a speed demon. I'm glad I was running down Hobble Creek and not up in the hills like you. I've heard PC is tough.

From TylerS on Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 23:58:41

Great job Andy! I would be very happy with that time! I am glad to hear that someone else is wearing the compression socks, I wore mine on my right calf to day and not the left. My left calf has felt great, but the right has been hurting for about a month. My right calf is not sore at all. I think I will wear them at St. george for sure. Good job on grinding out the last 8 miles, it takes a lot of heart to do that. AWESOME JOB!!!

From jtshad on Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 10:40:51

Andy, nice job on a top 10 finish in a tough marathon and moving up in the grand slam! Marathons are indeed a tricky beast to tackle and having a fast finish after 20+ miles is tough. I have only negative splited 1 race (St. George) so you are not alone. You had the right strategy, just need to keep working on finding the right combo of hydration, fuel, pace to make your finish what you want it to be.

Keep running strong!

From MarcieJ on Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 10:58:56

Good job pushing through some tough miles!

From josse on Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 13:03:12

I decided long ago that marathons are just plain tough and if I am going to run them I can not get to down on myself for not reaching what I wanted in the marathon. Because as you have found out most don't end up how you want them to, even know you have trained your brains out. I think this goes with racing in genral. So let's stay positive and look to the next one thinking that it will be the one, even if it is not:)

I think you did great!! Top 10 finish can't complain about that on a super hard course.

From walter on Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 08:48:33

Hey great race for a tough course. I was talking to Steve Olson who was up there running that and it is a very difficult course! Thats great your in 3rd now! Keep up the good work! That course scares me! I have to be in ship shape to even think about trying to grind out a good time on it. You know Steve did in the 2:30's down in SGM last year after doing a 2:50 something last year just to give you an idea of how difficult that race really is. Nicely done.

From Mike Warren on Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 09:31:22

Very tough course. Thats a great time and nice job on placing!

From Cal on Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 11:47:44

I think you're awesome Andy. This is a tough marathon and you did great!

From Huans32 on Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 13:42:09

Great job again man. You really did great. Was good to hang with you at the first. Your going to do so well at Tou and SGM. Cant wait to read the next report.

From RviertonPaul on Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 15:49:37

Good job Andy. Nice to meet you in person.

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