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Location:

Salt Lake City,UT,United States

Member Since:

May 08, 2011

Gender:

Female

Goal Type:

Local Elite

Running Accomplishments:

Unaided -  
17:16 OktoberFAST 5K (10/11)
17:23 BAA 5K (4/12)
37:10 Memorial Day 10K (5/11)
1:17:03 Long Beach Half Marathon (10/11)
1:17:21 USA 1/2 Champs - Duluth (6/12)
2:49:01 Philadelphia Marathon (11/11)

Aided -
16:52 Fight For Air 5K (6/11)
17:08 Provo City 5K (5/12)
1:17:52 Top of Utah Half Marathon (8/11)
1:17:54 Utah Valley Half Marathon (6/11)

Short-Term Running Goals:

Run consistently as I get back to 100% health. Stay patient!

 

Long-Term Running Goals:

Have fun training and racing.

Sub-17 5K
Sub-1:17 Half Marathon
Quality for the Olympic Trials in the marathon

Personal:

I am originally from Knoxville, TN and moved to SLC with Jake in 2010. I started racing in 2011 and had some great success before a major injury hit me in July 2012. I had athletic pubalgia surgery in May 2013...then again in Sept 2014 and am still trying to get back to my old self. Although running is my true passion, I love doing pretty much anything active outdoors - backcountry skiing, backpacking, biking, etc. 

I've been running for the Saucony Team since 2011. I enjoy representing the brand and really do believe they make the best shoes :)

I work as a Quality Engineer for BD Medical in Sandy.

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Miles:This week: 0.00 Month: 0.00 Year: 0.00
Skinning Miles (1000ft ~ 2.5 Miles) Lifetime Miles: 912.35
Hiking Miles Lifetime Miles: 10.50
Total Distance
3.00

AM - 3 miles. I was going to wait until the afternoon, but I woke up early and didn't want to run in the rain this afternoon. 

My visit with Jay Dicharry was worth every penny - there's definitely a reason why he's considered one of the best running biomechanics specialists. Even more impressive was the fact that he broke his jaw in 5 places, fractured his skull, and lost ~4 teeth from a really bad fall last week...poor guy's entire right face was swollen and looked to be painful, but he was there to evaluate me nonetheless. Anyway, I am confident in him and his rehabilitation approach. It is significantly different from any other therapist that I have seen (and I have seen a lot!)...in many cases I have been told to do things WRONG for a long time. I wish I could just move to Bend, OR for the next 6 weeks to work with him, but he gave me an evaluation report, DVD with my rehab program exercises, and other handouts. Here is a section of Jay's review that sums up my problems and what I need to work on.

•    You’ve got right leg stability issues caused by instability of your spine and pelvis. Your want your deep core muscles to maintain your posture as you run, however, you over-dominate with your flexors. These muscles are not postural, will fatigue, and then you’ll flop into the opposite of flexion, which is excessive extension – which will INCREASE compression in the back – not good! The muscles in the pelvis that stabilize your hips originate at your pelvis become inhibited and weak when the core is not stable. (this is why we see your right leg internally rotate and adduct more than it should. Another reason we see this is that you naturally have a little bit of toe out. Nothing is wrong with this. But you’ve tried to adopt a standing and running posture that keeps your feet pointed straight……which causes more internal rotation in your hip! – let your feet point slightly out ad stop the madness. 

•    What to do? Fix the PROBLEM. The problem is poor stabilization of your deep core muscles. You need to spend quality time on improving this imbalance. Ensure you are feeling SPECIFIC activation of the CORRECT muscles. Its not so much the exercise, its how you perform the exercise that really matters. 

•    Fix your posture – mom tells us not to slouch, but she didn’t say to cheat your low back position to avoid looking like you are slouching. The taping we did today will make an imprint in your brain to slide your shoulders back along your ribs – that’s how you keep your shoulders where they should be. With this in place, it will be easier to find a better position for your low back.

•    Fix your hip mechanics. Your foot contacts way too far in front of your body. Let’s repeat what we said today: A Very high rate of loading placed on an unstable system = disaster. Because you have posture issues, you lean slightly forwad with an extended back (slight toilet bowl of doom posture). This forces you to contact too far forward, which dramatically elevates your loading rates. You are in the 8100 Newtons/sec range. You should be less than half this.  How do you fix it? Again, first, spend time stabilizing your spine. When you are ready for phase 2, it will emphasize good hip dominant mechanics. This combined with the C-skip and Treadmill hip extension drill will make a huge dent in you understanding how to get the right muscles involved, and how to do this when running (both easy, tempo, and fast runs).

I have Phase 1 and Phase 2 exercises that will probably take the next 2-3 months to master. Then I will most likely go see him again for a re-evaluation. â€‹His closing remarks to me - 

Getting your better movement is key. Your running form is an issue, but you can’t make good pasta sauce out of rotten tomatoes. Spend some quality time fixing your body, and lay a foundation. Sure, It will take some work and patience on your end, but nothing that you shouldn’t be able to clear up 100% and make this a thing of the past.

Saucony Cortana Gravy Miles: 3.00
Night Sleep Time: 9.00Nap Time: 0.00Total Sleep Time: 9.00Weight: 0.00
Comments
From Jake K on Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:09:16 from 199.190.170.31

I've gotten a lot of text messages while you are in the middle of PT/MD visits that have said "This is worthless, I know more than this guy does, etc"...

... it was actually a relief to finally get the "Wow, Jay is great - I've been doing everything wrong!" message.

I trust Spencer's judgement and since he thought so highly of Jay, I had a good feeling about this and I'm glad you were able to go see him this month.

Forward progress from here. Two steps forward... then two more steps forward, repeat, repeat!

From Andrea on Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:28:57 from 72.37.171.52

This is going to work.

And guess who gets to do all these new fun exercises with me?!

From Jake K on Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:36:04 from 199.190.170.31

Me! If I am going to see him next time you go up, I better get to work... otherwise his recommendation for me will be a wheelchair.

From Andrea on Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:48:11 from 72.37.171.52

We can take up an entire day at his clinic! I do think it would be very valuable for you to see him...he is very passionate about improving performance and getting the most out of yourself. Fun guy too - really into backcountry skiing and mountain biking. I told him that he could stay with us for a month, he could fix me and play in the mountains here :)

From Neasts on Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:48:11 from 174.27.229.164

I'm seriously jealous of this great resource you've gotten to see. Just amazing. "Toilet bowl of doom posture"?! And is he calling you "rotten tomatoes"? Hahaha! Combined with his knowledge, his language would kick any competitive person's butt into high gear. I'll be interested to see how you progress and what he has to say about it.

From Andrea on Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:50:19 from 72.37.171.52

Neasts - his language makes me feel like a complete novice :) I think he uses that for motivation! It's obviously working on me.

From Jason D on Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 18:51:08 from 24.1.80.94

Good news, Andrea. I am convinced part of that rotation issue in the right leg is from driving a car (causes weak glute medius, or really retunes the muscle), something you can actually feel if you correct your alignment away from the angle to accelerator wants you to. But you know, hey, English Ph.D speaking here :), not a man of science.

But I think the feedback you got points to the ways everyday movements/positions/behavior/and so on affect how we move.

What a great resource. Thanks for sharing the knowledge, and, as always wishing you the best.

From seeaprilrun on Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 18:57:52 from 68.102.189.33

This sounds so promising for a change! Yay for solutions and a plan! I am watching this with great interest--I have a close running friend struggling with "sports hernia"...he is frustrated beyond belief.

From Josh E on Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 23:18:25 from 65.130.223.132

I hope for the best for you. I read his book and this all sounds familiar. And with the customization you need to get back on the right track. He seems like he really wants to make a name for himself fixing the fundamental issues that cause each of us to struggle. Good luck in your rehab and we'll have to talk about those core exercises!

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