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Spanish Fork,UT,USA

Member Since:

Jan 15, 2007

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Age Division Winner

Running Accomplishments:

Lifetime PRs:

Marathon: 3:07:59 2013 Big Cottonwood Marathon 

1/2 Marathon: 1:24:30 2008 St. George Painters

10K: 38:39 2008 SLCTC

5K: 18:44 2009 Nestle Art City Days 

55-59 AD PRs:

1/2 Marathon:???

10K:???

5K:??? 

 

Short-Term Running Goals:

2023 plans: 

  • Work on core strength
  • Lose 5 lbs
  • Overcome lingering injuries
  • Have fun!

 

Long-Term Running Goals:

Consistently place in the top 5 of my age division as long as my body will allow it.

Beat Terry Bean at any distance at least one time before I depart this earth.

Take care of mind and body so I can be in it for the long haul. Don't do STUPID THINGS!

Run until I'm 99 with Kim by my side and remember that EVERY RUN IS A GREAT RUN!

Peace of mind by striving to live like this

 

Personal:

I've been married to the lovely Kimberly for 36 years. We have 5 great kids and 5 great grandkids.

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Race: Scandinavian Festival 5K (3.1 Miles) 00:19:40, Place overall: 5, Place in age division: 2
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
7.800.002.700.5011.00

HAPPY BIRTHDAY JANSEN!  FOURTEEN YEARS OLD TODAY! 

This was a horrible race for me. Worst race of the year by far. No way to sugar coat it other than I'll do what Terry did and post my adjusted time instead of official time since the race was about .10 long according to all garmin reports and with noticing they added an extra zigzag to the race compared to other years.

So what happened? For whatever reason I always have lousy races in Ephraim, I can't seem to figure out how to race well there. Manti is just down the road 7 miles at about the same elevation and I do fine there but I seem cursed in Ephraim.

I did get some preliminary signals before the race that it might not be that day. 1) Haven't slept very well this week (although Kim has slept even worse but gave a PR effort today. Way to go KIM!!!). 2) Something I ate last night (I think it was the Wendy's chili) gave me upset stomach through the night. 3) During my pre-race warmup during mile 2 I got the flutter-bug blurred vision thing that usually means I'm going to get nauseated if I run very fast. 4) Also having to scrape ice off the windshield in late May is just plain WRONG! I know I can't blame this last one for poor running but perhaps it made me a bit grumpy. Actually the weather ended up being near perfect for racing.

OK so the plan was to mostly ignore the garmin and run by feel and/or try to keep up with Terry for as long as I could. Bad plan. Terry took off like a rocket. I stayed close behind for about the first quarter but the "run by feel" signals were all screaming "THIS IS WAY TOO FAST FOR YOU FOR A 5K TODAY". Checking the pace at this point I noticed we are running 5:30 pace. Since this is my mile pace I figured this was bad. If Terry was being strategic in trying to dump me early he was quite successful as I backed off to a pace that my body was telling me I could handle for 3.1 miles. Unfortunately today that pace was around 6:20. UGH! That should be closer to my 1/2 marathon pace than 5K pace. Oh well what do you do, this same thing happens sometimes on my training tempo runs where I just don't have it on certain days. Any time I tried to speed up I would get a wave of nausea and that horrible feeling like if you don't slow down you will HAVE to visit the bushes shortly for an unplanned/unwanted potty break.

I'll just chalk this one up to a bad day and look forward to next time. My mileage base has been great so I'm pretty sure I haven't lost THAT much fitness the last month while I've been focusing on base building and not many tempo runs. We'll see what happens at Heart of Holladay next month.

Congrats to Kim and Terry who both had great races with Kim giving yet another PR effort. This after a week of very bad sleep, no taper, and eating a kid's burger at Wendy's the night before. Guess maybe next time I better trade the chili for the kid's burger.

Hey if anyone has any other thoughts/ideas/comments on what may have gone wrong for me today I'm all ears.



Comments
From Kim on Sat, May 24, 2008 at 20:14:16

All I can say is, I wish I could call 19:40 a BAD race! I think you did great! Sorry I'm not more sympathetic when you are bummed about doing a 5K in under 20 minutes! I'm still out there running when you are at the finish line!

From James W on Sat, May 24, 2008 at 20:47:46

I vote for the Wendy's chili - chili always plays a number on me for a day or two after I eat it . . .

In any case, you kept going even when you knew it was not going to be your race, keep up the good work and the training and things will really pay off in St. George (you are now in now, right?)

From Andy on Sat, May 24, 2008 at 21:10:06

Just chalk it up to one of those days. You've already run a 10k this year at a faster pace so you know that this is not an indication of your speed or fitness level.

From Paul T on Sat, May 24, 2008 at 22:33:51

Chili the night before a race? I think I agree with James and suspect it may have played a role in your gastric distress...or it may have just been one of those days.

I also agree with Kim that it's hard to feel sorry for you running 19:40. Just last year at Nestles you were hoping to break 20:00, which will still be my goal again this year at Nestles, maybe 19:50.

From Jeff on Sat, May 24, 2008 at 23:31:50

Before reading any of the comments ... as soon as I saw "Wendy's Chilli" ... I guffawed (man I love that word). Now, I've ran plenty of training runs off a crappy meal the night before, and I'm usually one of the first to pass over some sort of lame excuse like a pre-race dinner ... but in this case I have to hop on the bandwagon. But whatever, we all have a bad day now and then. It just happens that your one bad day this month coincided with a race.

Look on the bright side, you're not going to the doctor on Tuesday to have a possible 6-8 week recovery stress fracture looked at throwing your entire summer racing season out the window and even potentially putting you under the gun for training for a fall marathon.

Give my best to Kim on a great race ... you go Girl!

From Lybi on Sun, May 25, 2008 at 00:03:24

Oh man, sorry about the bad race! I have to say that I've seen a pattern in all these race reports I read every week. Bad sleep equals bad races. PERIOD! Especially when it is more that just one rough night. Like if it is all week you are pure toast. I've seen high schoolers do okay on very little sleep, but usually not adults.

PS I am still very impressed at your time!

From Brent on Sun, May 25, 2008 at 12:14:20

Tom, nice workout race. My theory, cannot peak for every race. Good thing about running, always another day to test your training. Save it for Heart of Holladay.

Kool Aid Kid Out

From Terry on Sun, May 25, 2008 at 15:11:16

Tom, a 19:40 was a time a year or two ago I thought you may never obtain. Now it's a bad race. Thats the good and bad of this sport.

My prerace dinner wasn't much better than yours. The Mother-in-law wanted to eat at Wheelers in Mount Pleasant. So we meet them there at about 7:30pm. I had the classic, a hamburger, fries, and a milk shake. Luckily it didn't bother me. However an upset stomach can pretty much shut down a PR type effort.

From Tom on Sun, May 25, 2008 at 22:38:03

Thanks everyone for the comments and for some perspective.

Terry and Paul you're right that last year if I ran this race in this time I would have been estatic. I've been spoiled with mostly good races the last while including the 18:40 5K training run so my expectations get a bit greedy.

Jeff and Brent thanks particularly for reminding me that "every run is a GREAT run" and what a blessing it is just to be able to get out and run at all. I hope the heavens smile on both of you with regards to the injury situation and that you can fully enjoy the joys of running soon.

I'm thinking now the bad race was maybe somewhat related to the chili and the bad sleep, but more so related to some congestion in my chest/lungs and a bit of a cough that has bothered me a bit since the race. Not a big deal and nothing I'm going to lose any additional sleep over. I'll just keep with the program, try to avoid injury, and look forward to the next race and the joy of every run.

From Cal on Mon, May 26, 2008 at 00:31:27

I like Brent's theory.

There will be many other races in your future where all the elements will come together.

Just keep working hard at your training!

From Ian on Mon, May 26, 2008 at 07:44:46

I go with Brent's comment as well. If I'm peaking then I will have a good race, whatever. Chalk it up for experience and a good workout.

From Michael on Mon, May 26, 2008 at 18:14:53

The Ephraim curse - hope its not contagious. Actually I wish it was for, if I could every run that fast Id sell my soul. Anyway I still think you did great. Next race will be better - maybe there will be one in Manti!

From JohnA on Mon, May 26, 2008 at 22:50:43

I would be more interested in your prerace meal in the morning than the evening. I think that has to do with it.

5th overall is a great finish. . . sometimes we forget that this sport is about racing.

You got the hardware, for your finish, so don't feel too bad.

From Kim on Mon, May 26, 2008 at 22:56:05

Only thing is...this race doesn't give out hardware, or times, or fruit or anything else.

From Sasha Pachev on Mon, May 26, 2008 at 22:58:20

Tom - I learned to eat right the hard way just like this. When you are 20 you can sometimes get away with bad eating (although I could not), but when you are over 40 you cannot flirt with junk.

From Tom on Mon, May 26, 2008 at 23:19:34

Speaking of eating before 5Ks.....Ok night before is a no-brainer, eat good stuff, healthy, etc., easily digestable.

But what about morning of? I usually like at least something in my gut a couple hours or so before a 5K (usually banana and/or a little bread w/ honey). But I know some people who say don't eat anything the morning before a 5K. So I'm curious on the opinion of the experts....to eat or not to eat the morning of a 5K (distances longer than 5K I say you should eat but 5K I'm still open to opposing viewpoints).

From Sasha Pachev on Mon, May 26, 2008 at 23:25:23

I eat either nothing or a small snack so my body will not think I am in starvation mode. Some people run better completely hungry. It depends.

From JohnA on Mon, May 26, 2008 at 23:31:31

I run great in the morning with waking up and rolling out on the run. What gets me is when the start time get later, 8 or 9 and I have been up for several hours. I usually do a GU right before if needed. Or else I am trying a whole grain food several hours before so it does not spike the blood sugar.

Sorry they only give one medal. Not that medals are all that cool . . . but is it the principle of winning something that is cool. I like the satisfaction more than I like the medal.

From James W on Tue, May 27, 2008 at 00:05:39

I usually eat something small an hour or two before a shorter race - clif bar, odwalla bar (now my favorite - check out the berry one!). Anything longer than a 10K and I will add a gel about 15 minutes prior to the start. I agree with Sasha, though, that everyone is different. What works for one person may not work for another. You may need to just experiment a little to figure out what works best for you.

From Dale on Tue, May 27, 2008 at 00:06:51

Sounds like I'm late to the party but I vote for the chili.....The couple of times I've eaten Wendy's chili I've felt bad for the next 12-24 hours. I think that may have did you in. Regardless of that, your time wasn't too terrible which seems to indicate you've got some fast races in you just waiting to get out. Keep up the excellent training!

From melosh on Wed, May 28, 2008 at 13:03:03

Either eat healthy the day and night before or try just not eating at all cause that might help.

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