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Location:

Spanish Fork,UT,USA

Member Since:

Jan 15, 2007

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Age Division Winner

Running Accomplishments:

Lifetime PRs:

Marathon: 3:07:59 2013 Big Cottonwood Marathon 

1/2 Marathon: 1:24:30 2008 St. George Painters

10K: 38:39 2008 SLCTC

5K: 18:44 2009 Nestle Art City Days 

55-59 AD PRs:

1/2 Marathon:???

10K:???

5K:??? 

 

Short-Term Running Goals:

2024 plans: 

  • Work on core strength
  • Overcome lingering injuries
  • Have fun!

 

Long-Term Running Goals:

Consistently place in the top 5 of my age division as long as my body will allow it.

Beat Terry Bean at any distance at least one time before I depart this earth.

Take care of mind and body so I can be in it for the long haul. Don't do STUPID THINGS!

Run until I'm 99 with Kim by my side and remember that EVERY RUN IS A GREAT RUN!

Peace of mind by striving to live like this

 

Personal:

I've been married to the lovely Kimberly for 38 years. We have 5 great kids and 5 great grandkids.

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Slept in a little bit again this morning and did the run just after 9am. Plan today was to experiment with some faster miles and if everything felt OK then do a run similar to Kim's tempo run yesterday but at my half marathon to marathon pace (6:20-7:00 min pace). 

Cloudy day today, cool but very muggy. After a 2.5 mile warmup I started out trying to just run smooth and ignore the garmin and just run a pace that felt good.  Mile 1 went pretty well around 6:40 pace and feeling good, but then toward the end of mile 2 I just got slammed with a huge dose of  I think what Sasha would refer to as "severe neural fatigue". Not breathing particularly hard but almost starts to feel like hitting the wall at the end of a marathon. Finished mile 2 in 6:50, attempted to hold that for mile 3 but it just wasn't to be and I terminated the workout at about 2 1/2 miles.

Jogged back to the gym at progressively slower and slower pace, feeling just hammered for no good reason. Legs actually felt not too bad, left hamstring aches were detectable but my form seemed ok, no flapping on the ground. Pain behind the big toe went away once the run started, not as dead-legged as some times. But the nervous system was just not wanting any part of it. Perhaps trying to tell me I'm on the verge of injury so I guess it's good that I listened and obeyed. Not sure how much a factor the humidity was. Frustrating to say the least.

I did this run on Kuhni Road, same stretch of road where I was doing all my tempo runs early in the year. Looking back on the tempo runs I was doing in Jan-March I'm jealous of myself. OH MARCH LEGS WHERE ART THOU?

Interesting thing is that after I got back to gym I decided to take some of my frustration out on the eliptical and do a hard 10 minutes. Was able to get my heart rate above 170 without much trouble and the nervous system didn't seem to mind cranking along at that level for a good long while and working up a nice sweat, breathing hard, feeling like I was really working but that I could continue indefinetely. Guess it just means my running muscles are hammered or something?

If anyone has any advice what they think I should do between now and SGM to try and stay in decent shape, but not crash-and-burn beforehand and go down in flames of injury, burnout and fatigue, please do tell! I may even be sufficiently humbled that I might actually even take the advice.

Ave pace: 8:25.

Comments
From Kim on Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 15:13:13

I'm not sure what you think of my coach, but he doesn't make me do my long runs on Saturday fast. I do one fast in the week and then many easy and a long, fast but not too fast on Saturday. It seems to me that you feel like you have to have too many fast miles in. Of course I'm not a professional at this, I just know that following my coach's suggestions has really helped me improve and continue on without much injury. I know that a lot of people have told me that they would like to have my coach! He really is a great guy with a lot of great running advice for me.

From Clay on Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 15:26:29

I think this is a lot simpler than you think Tom, you are going to have more bad days running than good:-) Running takes a horrible toll on the body, at this point in your training you are feeling the affects of good hard training. This nervous system stuff is a little over the top and over rated, I think your body is just saying I'm tired.

You have to stop worrying about it and just run, everything else will fall into place:-)

Again, you have been running a lot longer than I have and I could be wrong, but sometimes we as runners just need to relax and not think so much and just let it happen... I have the same problem in golf, I usually find a way to get in the way of a good round, instead of just letting things take care of themselves, especially when I have put in the practice, and you have definitely put in the practice as far as your running is concerned.

But again, I could be wrong.

From Paul T on Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 15:37:44

I think you should listen to Kim's coach.

I might also recommend some additional time in the Zen zone. I'm no coach, but I think you've already done the work for SG. Between now and then I would suggest you get in the miles you think you need to, but enjoy them.

Throw in some fast miles when you feel like it, but at this point I think you might be taking an injury risk by forcing yourself to do hard miles that you (or your body) don't really feel like doing. It seems to me the injury risk significantly outweighs any potential benefit.

I would say just relax and stop worrying. You're already ready!

From Teena on Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 17:24:37

Listen to Kim!! My guess is that nobody knows you like she does. :)

And don't forget: you had an amazing half less than 5 days ago.

From Dale on Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 19:25:22

Watch your rest and hydration, especially if it's muggy out. Those two can really sucker you into feeling good one minute and pretty spent the next. If anything, really back off for a few days with a couple of low mileage/easy days. It sounds like you're flirting with over-training to me. I think we're all at about that point this close to our goal races and deep into a long, heavy training cycle. 2-4 easy days aren't going to kill you and will probably make you stronger at this point. Maybe throw in a few short (8-12 sec) hill sprints up a really steep hill to keep the muscles primed one day but take it easy otherwise. Then after a few days, give it another try and see how things go.

From Brent on Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 23:36:17

Tom, throw the Garmin and watch out the window for a few days and run just for fun. The zip will come back in your legs. I am always concerned at this time before a marathon, how to peak and not over train, not get injured? A couple days just off from running may do a body good.

Stay Kool, B of BS Rools out

From JimF on Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 09:53:27

Tom, I agree with what everyone else is saying that a few easy days will probably due your body good. What I really wanted to add is that you have had an awesome year of training/racing and that is going to carry you through the SGM. As Paul said you have done the work and with only 3 weeks left there is not a whole you can do at this point to add to your fitness but getting to the line healthy and strong will make a huge difference. Once you start to taper I think your body will respond and you will reap the benefits of all of your training this year.

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