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Location:

Spanish Fork,UT,USA

Member Since:

Jan 15, 2007

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Age Division Winner

Running Accomplishments:

Lifetime PRs:

Marathon: 3:07:59 2013 Big Cottonwood Marathon 

1/2 Marathon: 1:24:30 2008 St. George Painters

10K: 38:39 2008 SLCTC

5K: 18:44 2009 Nestle Art City Days 

55-59 AD PRs:

1/2 Marathon:???

10K:???

5K:??? 

 

Short-Term Running Goals:

2024 plans: 

  • Work on core strength
  • Overcome lingering injuries
  • Have fun!

 

Long-Term Running Goals:

Consistently place in the top 5 of my age division as long as my body will allow it.

Beat Terry Bean at any distance at least one time before I depart this earth.

Take care of mind and body so I can be in it for the long haul. Don't do STUPID THINGS!

Run until I'm 99 with Kim by my side and remember that EVERY RUN IS A GREAT RUN!

Peace of mind by striving to live like this

 

Personal:

I've been married to the lovely Kimberly for 38 years. We have 5 great kids and 5 great grandkids.

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AM: Ran the river bottoms 5+ mile loop solo as Kim is resting her IT band. Nice fall morning this morning, warmer than the last couple of days and I was fine with just a short sleeve shirt. Legs/body feeling a little better each day and the cold is almost gone now. My HR still seems awfully high for the paces I've been running lately, but I suppose I'll refrain from arriving at any conclusions until I have a few weeks/months worth of data to chew on. My resting HR seems to always stay consistently in the 45-50 range.

Ave pace: 8:57. Ave/Max HR: 151/174 (up heartbreak hill)

Late AM: 10 minutes on elliptical plus core workout. 

So with my running being off through the summer and not running so great lately I've changed my SGM goals. Originally my gold/silver/bronze goals were Gold:sub-2:50, Silver:sub-2:55, and Bronze:sub-3:00.  My revised goals are now Gold:sub-2:55, Silver:sub-3:00, and Bronze:PR (anything sub 3:17).

My plan is to run something along the lines of the table below (from the course tool, with smoothing checked and crazy grade cutoff set to 7%). But I'll use these splits simply as a guideline to keep me in check the first 13 miles. Foremost I plan on running by feel and hopefully these splits will feel about right. If I'm still feeling good after the 1st half I'll start pressing on the downhills and if I'm lucky enough to still feel good at mile 20 I'll push for the sub 2:55. Should the wheels fall off and I don't get the sub-3 I'll TRY really HARD to be happy with a PR.


Splits
Distance (miles) Elevation Avg. Grade from Last (%) Split Time Total Time
0 5243 N/A N/A 0:00
1 5169 -1.40 6:49 6:49
2 5152 -0.34 7:04 13:53
3 5047 -1.99 6:38 20:32
4 4918 -2.43 6:37 27:10
5 4851 -1.27 6:52 34:02
6 4654 -3.74 6:22 40:24
7 4449 -3.88 6:23 46:47
8 4550 1.91 7:49 54:37
9 4598 0.91 7:28 1:02:05
10 4620 0.43 7:11 1:09:17
11 4689 1.30 7:30 1:16:47
12 4688 -0.02 7:03 1:23:50
13 4600 -1.67 6:42 1:30:33
14 4525 -1.41 6:44 1:37:17
15 4340 -3.51 6:30 1:43:47
16 4085 -4.84 6:20 1:50:07
17 3954 -2.47 6:33 1:56:41
18 3794 -3.03 6:30 2:03:11
19 3761 -0.63 7:02 2:10:14
20 3647 -2.17 6:34 2:16:48
21 3399 -4.69 6:20 2:23:09
22 3276 -2.33 6:43 2:29:52
23 3060 -4.10 6:28 2:36:21
24 2907 -2.90 6:36 2:42:57
25 2778 -2.44 6:32 2:49:30
26 2690 -1.66 6:41 2:56:11
26.2556 2694 0.26 1:48 2:58:00

 

Comments
From Andy on Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 12:00:10

You are in so much better shape than you are giving yourself credit for. Your plan looks solid. If you are bored, you can check out this weighted pace calculator for SGM and compare the two: http://www.xmission.com/~abx3/sgm_pace.php

From Tom on Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 12:20:04

Andy thanks for the encouragement and the link to the Zimmerman calculator. I've seen this one before but wasn't sure where to find so good to have this for comparison.

Comparing the 2 pacings, this matches what I remember about the Zimmerman pacing being a bit more even than the course tool (i.e. faster on the uphills, slower on the downhills). I know some people prefer running this way especially runners that are good uphill runners.

I on the other hand seem to do much better on the downhill and I tend to like to charge the downs a bit more than most runners, but also take it easy on the uphills.

I just posted my data in the sub-3 discussion forum but maybe I'll go and post Zimmerman as well.

From Kerry on Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 12:42:04

Looks like a good plan, Tom! I also tend to charge the downhills a little more, so the Zimmerman pacing never worked very well for me. As far as the HR monitor, I think you're taking the right approach. I just used it to collect data for a few races before using it to adjust my pace. I've noticed that during the marathon my HR would jump up suddenly and stay fairly high without any feelings of distress. I learned that I needed to bring it back down right away or really suffer at the end.

From RivertonPaul on Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 13:09:32

Tom, Thanks for the table, it looks like a good guideline, and saves me having to generate one :).

I agree with Andy that you are in much better shape than you might believe. I also relate to feeling like I struggle relatively speaking when running on anything not downhill.

I've also decided not to wear my heartrate monitor at SGM. In the past I've relied too much on them and freaked out when my heartrate elevated, especially on uphills.

From JimF on Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 14:27:27

Tom, looks like a good plan. I agree with the others that you are in great shape and seems like the ing aches and pains are getting better so hopefully race day you will feel great and hit that Gold goal!

From Kim on Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 14:38:31

I like your new goals! I think it's good to be realistic, which we are both having to do right now. But the thing is....I believe you are going to reach a gold plus! I just feel it in my bones! (and you know when I feel it in my bones it is truth!) I think you are going to have a much better experience than you have been anticipating! Only 9 more days till we find out.....it's coming so fast...and... yet....so.....s..l..o..w.....

From James W on Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 16:19:05

I like your plan, too, Tom. I have used the Zimmerman pacing chart before as well, and he seems to have a good formula developed specifically for SGM. I'm with you on the uphills - I plan to take Veyo and Dammeron Valley easier than indicated on his chart - probably closer to 8:00 pace on those two. I will probably be about a minute or two behind you at the half - I think I am going to try to hang with Paul and shoot for right around a 1:32 for the first half, and try to negative split. I am sure you will do well.

From Terry on Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 19:42:09

Looks like there are a lot of runners trying to break the great 3 hour mark. It sounds like a lot of fun running with this group and I plan on running with the group until I cramp up and have to slow down.

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