Tam's training for 3:45:00" in Feb. 2008

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Location:

Austin,TX,USA

Member Since:

Sep 11, 2006

Gender:

Unknown

Goal Type:

Unknown

Running Accomplishments:

Paul & Tam at Congress Avenue Mile: 5:46" 2004. Marathon: 3:44'

Short-Term Running Goals:

Run AT&T Marathon (Feb.18, 2007) in 3:30:59" to qualify for Boston.

Long-Term Running Goals:

Being healthy at 59... like Paul!

Personal:

Married, 2 kids, boy and girl.

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Miles:This week: 0.00 Month: 0.00 Year: 0.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
26.200.000.000.0026.20

Ran 26.2 miles in 3:45' .

After the 3M 1/2 marathon which I set a PR at 7:27" pace, I know I was in shape to run a 3:30:00" marathon or close to it. Unfortunately I was not feeling great 3 days after that. The following weekend after the 3M, it took me two and a half hours to finish our 13 miles long run! I ran the first 4 miles at about 8:45” pace then really slowed down after that. At the end I was running at 15-20 minutes per miles, almost at walking speed! My running buddies said after waiting for almost an hour they were about to drive back to look for me! During that run, I felt extremely fatigue and all my joints aches. It was not painful but just moderate aching. I still do not know why other than may be I was sick, over training, or something… But normally when I got sick it must have something to do with my allergy problem like sneezing, coughing, sinus headache, or fever. I had none of those symptoms this time. The 2 1/2 weeks before the marathon I knew something was wrong when I failed to keep up with my running buddies on every single work out! The 3M half marathon was the last “good” work out that I had before the Marathon. I tried to give myself a break by running every other day and was hoping that I would recover in the next 2 weeks for the marathon but I did not. On Marathon day, I felt OK but not great. I ran the first 2 miles at 8:43" pace, almost 1 minute slower than recommended (the first mile was very hilly). On the next 8 miles the course is flat and I ran at about 8:12" pace. Physically I felt OK but somehow the “fire”, competitive spirit, and energy level were just not there. At mile 9th, I was 3 minutes behind my MGP and the hills are just begun. They are from mile 9th to 17th. I knew then it was not my day. From there on I stopped looking at my watch and just run to finish. It was mentally then physically very hard running through those 8 hilly miles with no hope (qualify for Boston). The thought of quitting, go home and come back another day did cross my mind – several times.  The course elevation finally reached its peak at mile 17th. Still 9 more miles to go! At that point I was getting tired and I started taking a 20-30 yards walk break at water stops. The last 5 miles was hard but they are not as hard as some other work out that I had done in training. I was able to run the last 5 miles without taking a walk break, passed many people, and felt very good about it.

 

Somehow I did not feel too much disappointed about my 3:45:00 result because down deep inside I know I could have done better. My running buddy finished in 3:37’ which I think is fair given the difficulty of the course. I will have to come back and try it another time (=:

 

 

Comments
From Sasha Pachev on Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 14:17:19

Almost a PR. Can you post the details of the race so we can see what happened? From that, make a plan to try for BQ one more time.

From Maria on Fri, Feb 23, 2007 at 13:12:16

The course was a killer. They changed the course this year, from one of the fastest, to one of the slowest. If previous PR was run on the old course, then this is certainly an improvement and PR-equivalent. I watched the webcast from Austin for some time last weekend, and commentators were standing at 10 mile mark and it was HILLY there. They said there is a 2 mile uphill stretch, just in that area, and I don't know how many hills there were on the entire course.

So, good job Tam, even if the time isn't what you hoped for!

From Paul on Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 22:59:23

Tam, great summary of your experience. Learn from it and adjust next year.

From Maria on Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 08:24:30

Wow, it appears something went very wrong after your half marathon! One thing you may want to consider for your next marathon, is to run a tune-up half a little bit further away from marathon day. You ran your half 3 weeks before - I think it's a bit too close, 4 or 5 weeks away would work better. Also, the next day after the half, you felt good and ran 3x1000m at 5K pace with short recovery - that's way too much. Half marathon takes a lot out of you and you probably should have just run very easy for at least 2 days after. Then, on Wed. after the half you ran 12x300m again with short recovery, but you were beginning to feel tired already. Still, your meltdown was very dramatic. I wonder if you got low on iron or got some sort of rheumatic infection (hence aching joints). That was a very disturbing sign that it took you 2:30 to finish 13 miles. So you obviously didn't recover enough to run a strong marathon, but you should be proud of your effort under these circumstances! It's very hard to continue runnning knowing you're not going to hit your goal.

Also, try to pick a flatter marathon next time - it's hard enough to BQ without hills, so give yourself some help there :). Maybe Houston?

From Tam Hoang on Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 09:18:33

Thanks Maria. I do appreciate your comments.

From Ethan on Tue, May 22, 2007 at 02:57:37

TAM!!!

Come back dude!

Where are yah?

I enjoyed reading about your Marathon even though I was there with you. I am not sure if you told me about your 3M results, congrats on that for sure. I really felt like this new course was a lot more difficult than the last one. Even with the "improvements" I'd love to run Austin again but without a course revert it's just not worth the airfare. I think I got a 3:40. I was pretty satisfied with that considering the amount of training I had, or had not been, doing.

Come on back to the blog here and start leaving me some more motivational comments. I miss running with you and Paul and the rest of the group. You guys kept me motivated and kept me pushing myself.

I wanna run town lake and wilco and the high school track. I miss all that stuff.

Write me man,

Ethan

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