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Location:

Orem,UT,United States

Member Since:

Jan 27, 1986

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Olympic Trials Qualifier

Running Accomplishments:

Best marathon: 2:23:57 (2007, St. George). Won the Top of Utah Marathon twice (2003,2004). Won the USATF LDR circuit in Utah in 2006.

Draper Days 5 K 15:37 (2004)

Did not know this until June 2012, but it turned out that I've been running with spina bifida occulta in L-4 vertebra my entire life, which explains the odd looking form, struggles with the top end speed, and the poor running economy (cannot break 16:00 in 5 K without pushing the VO2 max past 75).  

 

Short-Term Running Goals:

Qualify for the US Olympic Trials. With the standard of 2:19 on courses with the elevation drop not exceeding 450 feet this is impossible unless I find an uncanny way to compensate for the L-4 defect with my muscles. But I believe in miracles.

Long-Term Running Goals:

2:08 in the marathon. Become a world-class marathoner. This is impossible unless I find a way to fill the hole in L-4 and make it act healthy either by growing the bone or by inserting something artificial that is as good as the bone without breaking anything important around it. Science does not know how to do that yet, so it will take a miracle. But I believe in miracles.

Personal:

I was born in 1973. Grew up in Moscow, Russia. Started running in 1984 and so far have never missed more than 3 consecutive days. Joined the LDS Church in 1992, and came to Provo, Utah in 1993 to attend BYU. Served an LDS mission from 1994-96 in Salt Lake City, Utah. Got married soon after I got back. My wife Sarah and I are parents of eleven children: Benjamin, Jenny, Julia, Joseph, Jacob, William, Stephen, Matthew,  Mary,  Bella.  and Leigha. We home school our children.

I am a software engineer/computer programmer/hacker whatever you want to call it, and I am currently working for RedX. Aside from the Fast Running Blog, I have another project to create a device that is a good friend for a fast runner. I called it Fast Running Friend.

Favorite Quote:

...if we are to have faith like Enoch and Elijah we must believe what they believed, know what they knew, and live as they lived.

Elder Bruce R. McConkie

 

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Race: Top of Utah Marathon (26.219 Miles) 02:41:32, Place overall: 6, Place in age division: 1
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
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A.M. Top of Utah Marathon - 2:41:32, 6th place, 1st master, this was my slowest time out of the 15 that I've run it, but it was good enough for the masters course record. $500 cash prize - this is Cache (Cash) Valley indeed. 

Now details. Stayed with Steve Anderson. Placed the bottles of EmergenC mixed with dextrose on the course at miles 7, 14, 17 and 21 the night before. Then went to pick up the bib and they told me they were doing bottle service for elite runners this year. Will know better next year.

My goal was to get the master's course record of 2:42:10. It appeared maybe that the goal was too easy, but I knew it was not a given. Lately I have not been as fit for a number of reasons that I am still trying to sort out. The possibilities are the lack of fast running volume with too many miles at 8:30 pace and not enough at 6:00 or faster, or just plain getting old. During the race I knew after 3 miles that the goal would not come easy.

Mile by mile:

1 - 5:43 - felt good

2 - 5:49 (11:32) - felt harder, cause for concern

3 - 5:43 (17:15) - maybe I can get into good rhythm

4 - 5:48 (23:02) - not much of a rhythm

5 - 5:52 (28:54) - trouble ahead

6 - 5:56 (34:50)- yes indeed trouble ahead

7 - 6:05 (40:55) - got the bottle

8 - 5:55 (46:50) - actually was quite happy with the mile since I held the bottle and took sips out of it the entire time

9 - 5:58 (52:48) - still holding the bottle, drinking it slowly. Figuring it is better to run 5 seconds per mile slower now that I want to than lose 10 seconds or more per mile after 20 due to dehydration or low fuel. Learning something about fluid absorption. A little sip goes in well, the next one right after does not go. However, a minute later it goes in just fine. I think that is worth the inconvenience of having to carry the bottle for a couple of miles. With practice in training, maybe, I can learn to lose only 3 seconds per mile instead of 5, and maybe absorb better.

10 - 5:58 (58:46) - Still holding the bottle. The race is not going great, but at least I am running sub-6:00. Let's focus on the positive.

11 - 5:54 (1:04:40) - somewhere around here I decided to drop the bottle. I actually liked running with it - it kept my mind off the fact that I had a long slog ahead of me

12 - 6:06 (1:10:46) - very quick VPB

13 - 5:54 (1:16:40) - still sub-6:00

Half in 1:17:17. Realizing that there is a very good chance that my modest goal of the master's course record may not happen.

14 - 5:52 (1:22:32) - that is the time to get to 15 by, not 14! And 5:52 for that mile is not a good sign at all. But at least I am still at sub-6:00 average, and actually not feeling too terrible - just cannot go fast.

15 - 6:03 (1:28:35) - two events during this mile - grabbed my bottle, and got passed by John Heslop.  Could not latch on, not even a chance, he was actually running.

16 - 6:07 (1:34:42) - not super happy with this, but I have to take what I can get. I am actually not feeling bad, just cannot run fast. Maybe a 17-year-old spirit takes some time to adjust to a 40-year-old body and learn how to drive it? Wasn't there a movie about a mother and daughter switching places?

17 - 6:16 (1:40:58) - can I get to 20 miles under 2:01? If yes, I'll have a shot at the master's record unless I get passed by some mystery master, of course, which can very well happen at this pace. Got the bottle.

18 - 6:22 (1:46:20) - I do not really want to finish the race. But I have to find my way to the finish - with this traffic it would be faster to run than to get a ride. I do not want to run more marathons. I think I've run enough. OK, you are the first master, and you can still get the master's record. There is prize money on the line. Maybe even a course record bonus. But who cares? I do not care about prize money that much anymore, I get enough from my job. I do not care about the course record. Wait, remember what you told the first-time marathoners that you rode with on the bus? "You must have a plan when you get to mile 18. It must be a realistic plan. Speeding up at 18 is a plan that is incomplete. You must plan for disaster. You must plan for getting to mile 18 and not wanting to run anymore. Think of yourself as a soldier that has been captured by an enemy and is being injected drugs to reduce his will power and make him talk. You must make your decisions before you get there, and you must be loyal to those decisions." I remembered that my decision was to keep running at the fastest pace I could manage regardless of how I felt. I also did not want to come home and tell my children that I was headed to win some money but I dropped out of the race because I just did not want to run anymore. So I just kept running.

19 - 6:38 (1:53:58) - this mile actually cheered me up. It was uphill and faster than 7:00. Yes, I remember in 2003 I ran it in something like 5:54. But today was a different day. 6:38 contained a promise of a sub-2:42, and that made it worth running the rest of the race for me.

20 - 6:43 (2:00:39) - I was quite thrilled to be under 2:01 at 20 miles. Now just another 10 K in 41 minutes and I've got my goal. But if it is 42 I do not get it. That is discouraging. 42 minute 10 K is sub-7:00 and I am not sure if I can go signficantly sub-7:00 for the rest of the race. But I just managed a 6:43 uphill, and the next mile is downhill.

21 - 6:27 (2:07:06) - grabbed the bottle during this mile and never parted with it until maybe half a mile to go. For almost 5 miles after this I found solace in the bottle and drank my troubles away. 

22 - 6:42 (2:13:48) - that plus 7x4 gives me 2:41:48 at 26 so around 2:43:00 finish, which would not make me too happy. So I'd better run quite a bit faster than 7:00.

23 -  do not remember the split. James Moore joined me during this mile and it was a huge help mentally to have someone by my side.

24 -  13:25 for 2 miles (2:27:13) . I added 14 minutes and got 2:41:13. That cheered me up. This means about 2:42:30 for the whole thing, and by now I knew that I could find the strength to put a 20 second gap on the 7:00 pace over the last two miles, and then just sprint with all I've got and dip a little under the record. I got passed by Jason Howe which was actually good because I know had a visual target in front of me. I could imagine that he was coming back to me even though quite opposite was true, but it did not matter - any mental or visual trick at this point is good as long as it makes you run faster.

25 - 6:39 (2:33:52). I should be at the finish already. Back in 2003 I would have been at the finish a mile ago. Oh, well, at least now the record is quite tangible althought still not 100% certain. The last mile was uphill. I rarely run mile 26 slower than I do mile 25 even on equal terrain, and here I have downhill helping me.

26 - 6:22 (2:40:14). Gave it everything I had. It was not much, but enough to seal the record.

The longest 385 yards of the day - 1:18 - 5:56 pace - 2:41:32. With spectators cheering, and knowing that when I crossed the line I had the right to collapse and lay there until somebody came to carry me, the right that I should not abuse, but the thought of that privilege can release some speed, I went as fast as I could.

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Green Crocs 6 Miles: 27.00
Night Sleep Time: 6.00Nap Time: 0.00Total Sleep Time: 6.00
Comments
From Matt Poulsen on Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 18:03:13 from 98.202.242.213

Nice work, Sasha!! Great job! Congrats on the win and the course record.

From Kendall on Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 18:10:47 from 71.219.18.247

Way to pick the Masters win and CR...you'll destroy it next year.

From Jake K on Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 10:22:00 from 67.177.11.154

Congrats on the masters CR Sasha. I was looking at your history at this race - so impressive. The consistency of high finishes over the years is really awesome.

From jeffmc on Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 19:59:47 from 65.110.254.158

My first thought seeing the slow time (sorry I call it as I see it, no sugar coating here) was that the half marathon last Saturday probably took enough out of you that it cost you a few minutes in this race as your recovery was not complete.

Remaining honest, I do wish that I could race a marathon as slow as you right now. I probably couldn't even run that pace for a half with my current fitness. Fast or slow will always be relative, and you inspire people (including myself) with your consistency and desire to always do and be your best no matter what.

From Rob Murphy on Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 20:17:41 from 24.10.249.165

That's because "masters" is a code word for "slow". :-)

From Sasha Pachev on Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 18:17:23 from 69.28.149.129

Jeff - I was thinking about that too. I did not feel much pain on Monday, and was completely pain-free on Tuesday but my Tuesday tune-up workout was sub-par. I noticed that I lacked the endurance even in a distance as short as 2 miles. What I noticed, though, that if I hold the pace I start at in a 2 mile tempo run, I can hold it in any distance. If I am not holding it, I will have similar pattern of deterioration. So this performance was no surprise to me.

However, speed-wise things were not too bad, at least not as bad as the endurance. I hit the early miles under 5:50, and it was not until about 5 that 5:50 started to feel out of range. In my workout, I hit the first mile in 5:15 and it felt manageable.

So this is what I am wondering about. If you do not know the answer yourself maybe you can ask somebody you work with. You break a muscle fiber down, and now it starts to repair/regrow. What grows faster and reaches the pre-tear capacity first - myofibrils or mitochondria? I have a suspicion that myofibrils grow faster, but could not find any information about it online.

From seeaprilrun on Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 21:11:40 from 205.172.12.210

Great read on the race report, and congrats on the cash and master's record. I like the part about having a plan for mile 18.

From Dave Taylor on Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 19:17:12 from 174.23.76.202

OK that was a great story. I tried 8 hard today and was a little slower than last year but it might have been the super super leg workout from Monday, who cares, we will all go have fun at St George no matter what. And I will beat you :)

From Steve on Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 12:26:47 from 65.127.208.182

Good race Sasha. You pretty much own the TOU. It's a goal of mine to give you some competition next year on it.

From Amiee on Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 13:10:57 from 155.98.164.38

Nice work Sasha! That is one great report. It is neat to know what goes on in someone's head during a marathon so I really appreciated you honesty during mile 18 :)

From jeffmc on Sun, Oct 06, 2013 at 17:42:26 from 65.110.254.158

Sasha, I have not had the chance to ask any of our exercise physiologist which of myofibrils or mitochondira regenerate more rapidly.

I did have the chance to look up a few research papers, and from what I read I do not think you will be able to get a good answer to your question because of inter-individual differences.

What I did find is that: Training will affect how rapidly regeneration occurs. The grade of the terrain will affect muscle breakdown as well, with running economy being affected negatively following downhill running (I think due to added eccentric contraction, but I should note that this was only shown to affect runners for about 5 days). Bio-markers of inflammation show that there is more going on than simply regenerating myofibrils and mitochondria. Trained marathon runners (study done in the 80's, so fewer poorly trained marathoners back then) will still generally show myofibril and mitochondrial damage a week after a marathon and potentially up to 3-4 weeks following the race.

My general take on this is that you have a long history of running lots of speedwork/races downhill, and even recently you have run half of your tempo runs uphill, and subsequently run the second half downhill (in essence all I am saying is that you are used to running downhill). This may lead to quicker recovery following hard downhill efforts since your legs are used to the pounding and less tearing has occurred (thus the 5:15 mile a few days after the half), but may not mitigate all of the damage as it may take longer for inflammation, etc to drop to pre-half marathon levels. On Monday I can email you some of the articles that I found if you are interested in reading them.

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