Breaking the Wall

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Location:

Orem,UT,United States

Member Since:

Jan 27, 1986

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Olympic Trials Qualifier

Running Accomplishments:

Best marathon: 2:23:57 (2007, St. George). Won the Top of Utah Marathon twice (2003,2004). Won the USATF LDR circuit in Utah in 2006.

Draper Days 5 K 15:37 (2004)

Did not know this until June 2012, but it turned out that I've been running with spina bifida occulta in L-4 vertebra my entire life, which explains the odd looking form, struggles with the top end speed, and the poor running economy (cannot break 16:00 in 5 K without pushing the VO2 max past 75).  

 

Short-Term Running Goals:

Qualify for the US Olympic Trials. With the standard of 2:19 on courses with the elevation drop not exceeding 450 feet this is impossible unless I find an uncanny way to compensate for the L-4 defect with my muscles. But I believe in miracles.

Long-Term Running Goals:

2:08 in the marathon. Become a world-class marathoner. This is impossible unless I find a way to fill the hole in L-4 and make it act healthy either by growing the bone or by inserting something artificial that is as good as the bone without breaking anything important around it. Science does not know how to do that yet, so it will take a miracle. But I believe in miracles.

Personal:

I was born in 1973. Grew up in Moscow, Russia. Started running in 1984 and so far have never missed more than 3 consecutive days. Joined the LDS Church in 1992, and came to Provo, Utah in 1993 to attend BYU. Served an LDS mission from 1994-96 in Salt Lake City, Utah. Got married soon after I got back. My wife Sarah and I are parents of eleven children: Benjamin, Jenny, Julia, Joseph, Jacob, William, Stephen, Matthew,  Mary,  Bella.  and Leigha. We home school our children.

I am a software engineer/computer programmer/hacker whatever you want to call it, and I am currently working for RedX. Aside from the Fast Running Blog, I have another project to create a device that is a good friend for a fast runner. I called it Fast Running Friend.

Favorite Quote:

...if we are to have faith like Enoch and Elijah we must believe what they believed, know what they knew, and live as they lived.

Elder Bruce R. McConkie

 

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A.M. Ran with Ted and Jeff. Had a post VPB tempo - 0.5 in 2:50.  Dropped Ted off after 6, then ran 2.5 more with Jeff. We ran the last mile fast. The idea was to fall asleep burning fats during the run, then speed up without waking up the carb-burning beast. Well, this time we blew it big time with two quarters in 83, and then 77. That was like putting rooster right next to the beast's ear. After that Jeff kept going, while I eased off a bit. He did 76,77 for a 5:13 mile, I did 82,85 for 5:27. Then 2 more with Benjamin in 15:48. Did explosions during Benjamin's run.

P.M. 1.5 with Julia in 14:44, faster than the policeman. We have a friend that is trying to get a job as a policeman and he needs to be able to run 1.5 miles in 15:00. So any time Julia breaks 15:00 I tell her she ran fast enough to be a police officer. 2 with Jenny in 17:59.

Brooks T4 Racing Flat Miles: 10.50
Night Sleep Time: 7.75Nap Time: 0.00Total Sleep Time: 7.75
Comments
From wheakory on Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 16:27:51 from 134.50.89.55

Okay Sasha you have to explain this statement

"The idea was to fall asleep burning fats during the run, then speed up without waking up the carb-burning beast."

From Sasha Pachev on Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 12:24:34 from 192.168.1.1

Kory:

When you run slow you primarily burn fats. As you speed up you switch to carbs. If you could learn to burn fats instead of carbs while running the same pace, your fuel situation improves. When you run slow and then start gradually speeding up the transition to carbs is not immediate, there is a delay. This will give your body maybe a 2-3 minute window of practicing fat metabolism at a quick pace. The pace must not get too quick, this would wake up the carb metabolism and defeat the purpose of the pickup.

You can actually feel it. When you are burning more fats you feel sluggish at a relatively slow pace. Once the carbs kick in all of a sudden the pace feels a lot easier. A good time for this exercise is at the very end of your easy run, about the last mile or so. Make sure the easy run pace is around 7:30, any faster might put you in the carb zone too far. Then in the last mile, very important, do not get worked up about anything, pace, work stress, last night's football game, nothing, you must be absolutely calm, or else the adrenaline will release the carbs and you will not be relying on fats sufficiently. Start speeding up to marathon race pace, or a little slower in a leisurely manner, absolutely do not force it. If it feels too easy, you are probably not doing it right. You must feel like there is a wall that keeps you from going faster. Then in the last quarter if you want to test if the wall was metabolic, not a result of general fatigue/bad day, push a little harder. If everything happened like it is supposed to you'll be able to pick up quite significantly, and it will not feel hard. Once you've learned the feeling, it should not be necessary to do those tests in the last quarter, use it to practice burning fat instead.

From Nevels on Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 12:37:11 from 131.204.15.93

This is an interesting concept that has made a splash in the ultra world, as well, when mid-run fueling becomes more and more of a limiting issue. Many ultra runners rely heavily on specially made ultra products that tend to be glorified mixtures of sugars (fast burning carbs), and slightly more complex (slower burning) carbs. I have found (and have been backed up by several more experienced ultra runners) that if I consume a little less food during a run and start just slightly more conservatively, I have much more even energy levels throughout the day. On the other hand, toward the end of the run, if I want a quick boost, I can grab something with a high sugar content to get a quick rush and hope that I finish the race before the ensuing crash.

In any case, I think you are correct regarding starting slow and trying to increase the pace at which you can maintain almost pure fat metabolism as opposed to carbohydrate metabolism, but it can be frustratingly slow at times, and I am the king of going out too fast and flying through training runs under the premise of "train fast, race fast."

From wheakory on Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 12:53:06 from 134.50.89.55

I've actually done this on my 20 miler last week. I started out with no food before hand or during the run (no water or sports drink either). I started slow and was very sluggish then towards the end of the run I started pushing the pace and it was hard. But the last little push when I went faster was better.

If we can rely on burning fats in a marathon definitely is an advantage to not lose all the glycogen.

Also running a long run slow is good just to keep your feet out there for along time to build endurance and not really worry about the pace.

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