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Location:

Farmington,Ut,United States

Member Since:

Sep 12, 2011

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Local Elite

Running Accomplishments:

Not much to speak of yet.

My fastest Marathon was 3:38 (St. George); 3:36:00 (St. George 2012)

My fastest Half was 1:55 (Farmington Festival Days)

Haven't competed in anything less than a half in a while 

Short-Term Running Goals:

5K: 21 min

10K: 40 min

Half: 1:40

Marathon: 3:05 

Long-Term Running Goals:

Get my mile time down to 6 min for long distances (marathon pace)

run a 4 min mile

get fast and competitive on trails

get fast enough to be a local elite 

Personal:

married with kids.  I want my kids to see me accomplish the above goals so hopefully they too will want to be active and healthy. 

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Miles:This week: 0.00 Month: 0.00 Year: 0.00
Altra Instinct Lifetime Miles: 295.43
Altra Instinct V2 Lifetime Miles: 424.34
Altra Lone Peak Lifetime Miles: 519.15
Saucony Perigrin Lifetime Miles: 327.60
Flag Rock Summits 2013 Lifetime Miles: 10.00
Vertical Feet 2013 Lifetime Miles: 147360.00
Saucony Mirage Lifetime Miles: 249.48
Altra Lone Peak 1.5 Lifetime Miles: 255.16
Mizuno Sayonara Lifetime Miles: 46.80
Vertical Feet 2014 Lifetime Miles: 10299.00
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
39.2514.500.000.0053.75
Altra Instinct V2 Miles: 3.00Vertical Feet 2012 Miles: 411.00Saucony Kinvara 2 Miles: 25.24
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.390.000.000.008.39

I should start by apologizing for the length of this post.  After my run today I discovered something I thought was very interesting and wanted to spell it out in detail.  For those not interested in the differences between types of running shoes feel free to stop reading.  For those wondering if you should buy some Altra's, keep reading.   

It's amazing what a difference 3.2 ounces makes. I've owned a pair of Asics GT 2160's for almost a year now but I have never worn them, until yesterday.  My plantar fasciitis (PF) issues made it so that it was getting hard to run.  As I said yesterday, I'm almost certain they were caused by ramping up my miles too fast after my injury. I went from zero miles a week to 50 miles a week pretty quick, and I did almost all of it in my Zero Drop Altra Instincts. In order to remedy the problem I started running in the Asics because the PF issues seemed to go away when I wore these shoes. 

That was yesterday. Today I discovered, or more accurately perhaps rediscovered, why I no longer wear traditional running shoes. Before I went on my run I felt great.  I full of energy and ready to get out there. 30 seconds into my run I felt fatigued and wondered if I would be able to push through the miles I needed. I decided when I finished I would run a comparison of my shoes and see if that had something to do with it. As it turns out, the differences in these shoes are amazing and almost certainly the reason my run was so difficult. 

To begin with lets talk about the weight of my shoes. My Altra Instincts weigh in at 8.8 ounces. My Saucony Kinvara's are 7.7 ounces.  Even my Altra Lone Peak trail shoes and my Saucony Peregrine trail shoes weigh in at 9.9 ounces, and these have a rock reflection plate built in to the sole.  By contrast, the Asics weigh 12 ounces. 12 OUNCES!!!! That is ridiculous! The added weight makes it feel like I'm running with bricks tied to my feet, even though it is only 3.2 ounces. On top of that, the weight makes it harder to maintain proper form and results in pain in places that I have not experienced pain in a long time, like my knees for example. 

I'm convinced that most of the 12 ounces comes from the absurd amount of rubber on the sole.  This, in turn, has another detrimental effect. In my Instincts or even my Kinvara's I feel the road beneath my feet. It's not a painful thing, it's more of a connected thing.  I feel like I'm actually part of the run, like its a dance that requires skill, precision, and some level of involvement.  I feel like I'm interacting with the road rather than just moving over the top of it.  The same is true with my trail shoes when I am on the dirt. But in the Asics I can't feel any of that.  Aside from all zen of running experience, this also has a detrimental effect on my physical well being. Without being able to feel the road I am much less able to control my form.  The inevitable result of running like this is sloppiness which will, in turn, lead to injury. 

Finally, there is the heal-to-toe drop of these shoes. My Instincts have zero, which is what I prefer.  It feels more natural and absent injury I think I could run all day in these shoes. My Kinvara's have a 4 millimeter drop, which is pretty minimal.  My trail running shoes break down the same way, zero for the Lone Peak and 4 mm for the Peregrine's. The Asics, on the other hand, have a 12 mm drop, which is the standard drop for running shoes. This is the reason, or at least one of the reasons, my PF doesn't hurt when I wear these shoes.  There is so much support that my feet are hardly doing anything. But that is also the negative aspect of these shoes. My feet aren't doing anything, which is good while my PF is injured, but will end up hurting my training in the long run should I continue to wear these shoes.

I did the first 5.39 miles today in the Asics with an average pace of 9:15 per mile and total elevation gain of 454 feet.  Almost all of that elevation gain came in the last .3 when I ran up state street to my house. I then switched to my Instincts, because my PF wasn't hurting, and ran up the canyon.  In the first 1.5 miles there is 500 feet of elevation gain and then a pounding downhill run back to the start.  I managed this in 9:55 per mile. So, on a relatively flat course in the Asics I was only 40 seconds a mile faster than in my Instincts running up and down steep hills. The moral of the story, if running is always a grueling task that you have to continually force yourself to slog through, maybe the problem is your shoes. 

Altra Instinct V2 Miles: 3.00
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Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.120.000.000.006.12

Easy pace 6 around the neighborhood. wearing the big 2160's still because they're good on the PF. 

Vertical Feet 2012 Miles: 411.00
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Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
3.123.000.000.006.12

I found out how to fix the PF pain yesterday.  Two words, kinesio tape. I tried it yesterday with the 2160's and my PF's felt great.  So this morning I decided to try the Yasso 800's again with the tape on. I'm very happy to report that my PF feels just fine, even after a hard workout.

I think I might make this a standard part of my workout, even when I switch back to trails.  The speed work feels good and is kind of fun. I managed to get my average 800 time down to 3:25, with the fastest 800 being 3:19 and the slowest 3:55.  I think I could take a bit more off that time too. I may try for a second short 5 mile outing this afternoon. 

Saucony Kinvara 2 Miles: 6.12
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Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
8.000.000.000.008.00

8 on the JRP.  Taking it easy so I can push it with some Yasso 800's in the AM.

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Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
3.623.500.000.007.12

Yasso 800's on the Bountiful High track. I really like this workout.  It's hard, but at the end I feel so good. And it's fun to see how hard I can push myself. I got my average time down to 3:21 today, 4 seconds per 800 faster than Tuesday. My fastest was 3:16 and my slowest was 3:26, so I was more consistent today than I was on Tuesday as well. It will be interesting to see what I can do next Tuesday when I try again. 

Saucony Kinvara 2 Miles: 7.12
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Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
6.000.000.000.006.00

6 easy in the horrible asics. 

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Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
4.008.000.000.0012.00

I started this with the expectation of doing 10 miles at marathon pace with a mile of warm up and cool down.  At this point, I figured that marathon pace was between 7:40 and 8:00. My first mile was slow but everything felt alright so I took the breaks off. 

I started out too fast.  Maybe that's why the wheels came off at the end. I only made 8 of the 10 miles before I was forced to slow back down.  I didn't get injured or anything, I just had no gas left in the tank. My splits were 7:35, 7:45, 7:44, 7:51, 7:53, 7:40, 7:44, and 7:58.  I had a hard time keeping my pace slow enough for the first few miles, then I had a hard time keeping it fast enough. I decided at mile 6 I should take it easy for a mile and evaluate everything. Make sure I wasn't going to injure myself.  Everything checked out so I sped back up.  The last few miles of the tempo were hard and the very last planned mile didn't happen because I couldn't get myself moving fast enough to stay anywhere near my pace.  

I'm clearly not dialed in at all. Hopefully, this kind of a workout will translate into faster times everywhere though. We'll see.

 

 

Saucony Kinvara 2 Miles: 12.00
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Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
39.2514.500.000.0053.75
Altra Instinct V2 Miles: 3.00Vertical Feet 2012 Miles: 411.00Saucony Kinvara 2 Miles: 25.24
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