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Pleasanton,CA,US

Member Since:

May 01, 2008

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Local Elite

Running Accomplishments:

1M 4:53.2

5k 17:19 Spring 2009

5M 28:52

10M 59:47 (on way to my half PR)

13.1 1:18:47 2009 New Bedford Half Marathon

26.2 2:57:55 2008 Mohawk Hudson River Marathon

 

Short-Term Running Goals:

Train for pacific crest trail thru hike 2017.

Run lots of miles and lose some weight in the process.

DON'T FALL OFF THE WAGON

Extend childhood (at least from fitness perspective) into my mid 40's

 

Long-Term Running Goals:

 

I want to beat my half marathon PR. And if I'm in shape to do that then I should be able to crush my marathon PR.

Personal:

31y/o computational biologist. Hoping to take 5 months off next year to hike the PCT.

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Race: Mayors cup (3.1 Miles) 00:18:01
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
2.000.000.003.100.005.10

Ugh.   So first of all I decided to do the 5k instead of the 8k because everybody I was with was doing the 5k and I didn't want to wait the extra 1.5 hours for the 8k when I have a med school exam to be studying for. I guess everyone has bad days, and worse days, and some even worse, and then one day you die.  This I will just file away as one of my worst races ever.  I don't have much of a reason for running so slowly.  I went out in 5:22 and didn't feel all that bad.  Then mile 2 was 6:08???!?  That has to be like 10 mile race pace for me.  I don't know what happened.  Could the course have been long?  And the third mile was only slightly faster and I really had nothing to kick it in with.  I could list a thousand excuses, but I honestly don't know what went wrong in such a big way as to make me run nearly 30 seconds slower than what I did last week on a hilly course only 6 days after my marathon.  I am gonna ask jamie what I should do.  He has much more experience than I do with this stuff.  I might take 2 or even 3 weeks off and cross train with swimming/cycling/elliptical.  Last december I spent 3-4 weeks at around 25-35 miles per week because I just didn't ever feel like getting out the door for runs.  Then in the spring I ran huge PR's.  But I don't know if that is why.  After my break, I did a spinning class, kept my mileage at anywhere from 50-65 miles per week and did workouts every week.  If any of you have had similar experiences or advice please tell me.  I am currently thinking I won't run the downhill mile next weekend because if I don't break 5 I will be absolutely crushed.  And right now I don't have much speed or confidence.

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Comments
From rockness18 on Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 14:04:56

Perhaps the distance running has slowed you down a bit. Looking at McMillan chart (not sure whether you subscribe to him or not), an 18 min 5k predicts a 1:23:12 half marathon and 2:55 marathon. All seem to be fairly consistent for your recent times. If your 5k used to be faster, I'd definitely chalk it up to your distance running. Some say it can take 26 days to fully recover from a 26 mile race. Your, what, 2 weekends removed? I wouldn't sweat it. Just my 2 cents.

From snoqualmie on Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 14:47:49

What Rockness18 said makes a lot of sense. Anyway, I just wanted to say "hang in there" -- like you said, good days and bad days. Cheers.

From haynes on Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 15:11:51

I don't have the speed I usually do, but no way that accounts for this. Last week, only 6 days after my marathon, I ran 17:34. So although recovery from my marathon and lack of speed are issues holding me from my best currently they do not explain the slow down from just last week. The only things I can think of in that regard are poor pacing, lack of taper, race course issues, or physically or mentally breaking down. I obviously haven't lost fitness since last week. I would think that being one week further away from my marathon would only help.

From haynes on Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 15:15:35

Also a girl who came with me to this race ran a 20:20 3 weeks ago and ran 21:40 today. She actually ran a workout on wednesday of 2x5k in 21:38 and 21:35 with 4 minute recovery and that was on dirt, not a track. I know the course she used and it is pretty accurate.

From rockness18 on Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 16:20:51

So it sounds to me like your suggesting it was a slow course today...if so, shake it off. You'll be fine.

From bedoukian on Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 17:09:31

hey haynes, 18:01 really isn't that terrible, wasn't it a cross country course? the dirt will slow you down. Even if it isn't, you shouldn't have been racing and doing workouts immediately after the marathon. i think taking zero days off immediately after the marathon just caught up with you. I'd take at least 2 days off from running and not do workouts for a couple weeks and see if you feel better.

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