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Hogsback Half marathon

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Location:

Pleasanton,CA,US

Member Since:

May 01, 2008

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Local Elite

Running Accomplishments:

1M 4:53.2

5k 17:19 Spring 2009

5M 28:52

10M 59:47 (on way to my half PR)

13.1 1:18:47 2009 New Bedford Half Marathon

26.2 2:57:55 2008 Mohawk Hudson River Marathon

 

Short-Term Running Goals:

Train for pacific crest trail thru hike 2017.

Run lots of miles and lose some weight in the process.

DON'T FALL OFF THE WAGON

Extend childhood (at least from fitness perspective) into my mid 40's

 

Long-Term Running Goals:

 

I want to beat my half marathon PR. And if I'm in shape to do that then I should be able to crush my marathon PR.

Personal:

31y/o computational biologist. Hoping to take 5 months off next year to hike the PCT.

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Race: Hogsback Half marathon (13.1 Miles) 01:23:43, Place overall: 3
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
1.006.007.100.000.0014.10

Not the best start to the day.  Got ridiculously lost on the way to the race and despite planning on getting there 1 hr ahead of time we got there 7 min before the race started.  I did not get a chance to use the restroom or do much warmup.  Once the race started I felt great.  The first 2 miles were downhill and we did something like 6:06 and 6:15.  There were about 5 of us in a pack behind the 2 leaders who went out in probably something like 5:20.  We were trying to hold back and did to a great extent, there was some major altitude loss in those miles.  In fact the whole first half was slightly downhill and the entire second half was slightly uphill (until the last mile which was significantly uphill).  Nothing of note happened until mile 6.  Those miles went like 6:21, 6:18, 6:24.  Then at mile 6 there was an aid station that had gu's.  I wanted one but bedoukian grabbed the one I was going for so I grabbed another one but didnt quite get a hold of it so after a few seconds of juggling it without quite getting it I dropped it and decided to stop and get it.  It took me only 20 seconds to catch the pack but it winded me a bit.  I concentrated on relaxing and once I felt good I took the gel.  That mile still went 6:24.  Then we hit the turnaround.  Without talking about it we picked up the effort a bit because it was now slightly uphill and we all wanted to average around 6:20.  We did 6:16, 6:21, 6:18, 6:24.  The pack stayed together until mile 8 when we lost 2 guys.  At mile 10 I decided to show my cards because I knew that the last mile was significantly uphill and I am a bad climber.  I moved ahead of bedoukian and the other guy with a 6:15 mile 10.  I knew that it was uphill because I was feeling good and pushing but the times weren't that good.  It felt like a training run until mile 10.  I felt like I could kick the last 5k in at 19 flat on a flat course.  Then mile 12 was more uphill and I was starting to feel my legs a bit-6:20.  Then mile 13 despite pushing as hard as I could with the other guy only 10 seconds behind me I only managed a 6:53.  Luckily he was hurting as much as I was.  When I saw the top I almost hoped that he would catch me just as we crested the hill because he was 50 something and I am 23 and I knew I had tons more speed than him.  But he didn't.  It leveled out for the last 300m and I kicked it in.  I am pretty happy with the time.  It was 65 with 97% humidity which was not even a little bit cold.  And the course was not "fast" as advertised though not very slow either.  In 50 degree dry weather on a flat course I know I could have kicked it in under 1:23.  And I am happy with 3rd place for sure.  Number 1 went 1:19 and 2nd went 1:21 so I had no chance of catching them although both blew up pretty bad.  They just had that much time to spare.  And I beat bedoukian which is always a plus.  Of course he always beats me in trail races (by more than I beat him in road races) but at least I am successfully defending my nitch.
Oh yeah, and I have a cold with a stuffy nose.  Not that bad but when making an all out effort it can't help... Man I am the king of excuses.

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Comments
From rockness18 on Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 17:20:22

Wish I knew you were there. Nice description of our course experience...definitely not as fast as advertised, yet not that slow either. I was unaware of the slower second half, especially the hill at the end, but ended up o.k. Great job!

From bedoukian on Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 16:52:59

your time is posted as 1:23:43...

my time of 1:24:38 is EXACTLY what i ran on a different course in '05. pretty lame.

way to crush me though!

From haynes on Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 16:56:40

I saw 1:23:32 when I was at the END of the shoot, and the race ends at the front of the shoot. I did not start earlier than guntime, so I refuse to add a silly 11 seconds to my time. The marathon is chip timed I think, so that is good. I won't contest that.

From bedoukian on Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 17:11:15

i believe you...it's odd that my time is what my watch read. maybe you were delusional from over exerting yourself...

From haynes on Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 17:27:53

Lol, whatever, 11 seconds. Take it. So then I beat you by less than 1 min. The time didn't matter so much to me as beating the guys in our pack. In the marathon, time matters, but only sub 3. Even if I am feeling fresh at 20 and we are on pace I think I will stay with you (that is assuming I can). I am not running 2:55 and anything between 2:55:00 and 2:59:59 I don't care about. I would rather run a relaxed 2:59 than suffer the last 6 miles for a 2:57. I really think we should try for completely even splits. 6:50 all the way. 6:50 is gonna feel comically slow but we need to just concentrate on relaxing and not using energy the whole time and we will be able to hold it or speed up at the end. What is your nutrition plan? I am doing honey (like 800-1000 cal taking a bit every 2 or so miles has worked well in trail races) and whatever they give us to drink probably every other aid station. I hope hope hope it is cold. I can't wait for the 10 day forcast, lol.

From bedoukian on Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 21:26:32

I think going out in 6:50 is a good plan. Maybe 6:45-6:50. No faster...the marathon books seem to say to plan to go out about a minute or so faster the first half. i'm sure no matter what the last 10k will be a bit slower for me and i definitely would like to have a little cushion. I'm going to probably bring 3 bags of my shot blocks along and eat 1 every 45 minutes. I missed the gu that you were trying to get at the race, it fell right out of my hand. i wonder if the calories would have helped in the end. i doubt it...i'm probably going to drink at every aid station since it's so hard to take in liquid. i wish they had water bottles instead of those worthless cups.

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