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Jon Allen
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Re: Provo River 1/2 Marathon route
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Reply #15 on:
August 08, 2008, 11:40:56 am »
56 mile race? Adam, maybe coming to the 16 mile trail race will help you more than a 56 mile race... you should reconsider.
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Josse
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Posts: 365
Re: Provo River 1/2 Marathon route
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Reply #16 on:
August 08, 2008, 11:45:25 am »
Quote from: Jeffrey McClellan on August 08, 2008, 10:16:28 am
The last couple of miles might be kind of confusing, so hopefully they have it marked out well, because there are a lot of twists and turns that might confuse people.
Last time he ran it this way I got totally lost and so did alot of other people. So yes I hope it is clearly marked, because it wasn't last time.
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Tom
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Posts: 150
Re: Provo River 1/2 Marathon route
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Reply #17 on:
August 08, 2008, 01:42:54 pm »
Adam I've tried multiple times to put the course in but I'm having similar problems as you. Extra miles tacked onto the end and the elevations are always either 0 or crazy numbers. So I pretty much gave up on that idea.
I also started recording elevations at each quarter mile with Google Earth but didn't get very far into that as things got busy at work. If I get some free time later this afternoon I'll see if I can finish that up at least through mile 11 and post the data later.
Are we totally OCD or what? We're probably better off just not thinking much about the race or course, leave the watch at home, take of running and have fun.
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Adam R Wende
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Re: Provo River 1/2 Marathon route
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Reply #18 on:
August 08, 2008, 02:01:03 pm »
I'm totally OCD. No doubting that. I like to think about this stuff to distract me about the race. Whenever I stall for something I try and do something related but not completely necessary. Something is finally working for me. I have a "pretty close" course and it has some elevation info. However, I'm confused by the splits. See below. The mile with a -3.6% elevation has one of the slowest miles (5:58)?! But the one with a grade very similar has a CRAZY fast mile (5:09)...
Distance (miles) Elevation Avg. Grade from Last (%) Split Time Total Time
0 5971 N/A N/A 0:00
1 5876 -1.80 6:10 6:10
2 5687 -3.59 5:58 12:09
3 5656 -0.59 5:50 18:00
4 5293 -6.87 5:43 23:43
5 5286 -0.12 5:47 29:31
6 5194 -1.75 5:18 34:49
7 5067 -2.41 5:11 40:01
8 5091 0.46 5:38 45:40
9 4911 -3.41 5:11 50:51
10 4893 -0.34 5:49 56:41
11 4780 -2.15 5:09 1:01:50
12 4844 1.20 5:35 1:07:26
13 4768 -1.44 5:09 1:12:35
13.0828 4761 -1.65 0:24 1:13:00
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Michelle Lowry
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Re: Provo River 1/2 Marathon route
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Reply #19 on:
August 08, 2008, 02:23:56 pm »
Those splits don't look like good targets. I would just take the average split you want (5:34) and subtract 15 seconds for the first 4 miles (assuming we have four miles in south fork canyon), add 10 seconds for the mile coming out of the canyon (mile 5 - I am assuming that is the spot on the highway before where I wussed out on the tempo, so it is somewhat uphill), try to hit the average splits mile 6-10, then try to hit 10 seconds over for the rest. That should be just about right. The last three miles will be tough because our legs will be tired and the miles are flat and it sounds like we'll have lots of turns in the last two miles. Should be fun!
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Tom
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Re: Provo River 1/2 Marathon route
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Reply #20 on:
August 08, 2008, 03:20:33 pm »
Dang Adam your numbers look nothing like the quarter mile elevations I get from google earth. I'll post mine for comparison, but I imagine nothing beats just running by feel and using a little common sense. Actually my real reason for posting these is just to show Adam I'm more OCD than he is.
Mile 0 .25 .50 75
0 5834 5774 5713 5671
(net drop -212 from start to mile 1)
1 5622 5630 5584 5522
(-123)
2 5499 5468 5434 5420
(-97)
3 5402 5373 5295 5234
(-205)
4 5197 5193 5191 5193
(-8)
5 5189 5194 5250 5200
(-1)
6 5188 5123 5116 5065
(-153)
7 5035 5006 4992 4964
(-93)
8 4942 4921 4917 4908
(-71)
9 4871 4851 4845 4839
(-46)
10 4825 4807 4790 4790
(-45)
11 4780
I don't know the course after this point but I'm assuming it's mostly flat from here on out.
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Sasha Pachev
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Posts: 1546
Re: Provo River 1/2 Marathon route
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Reply #21 on:
August 08, 2008, 03:23:15 pm »
For the benefit of the potentially lost souls who might stray on the "loopy" section, here is the map of the course:
http://fastrunningblog.com/course.php?course_id=271&course_name=Provo+River+Half+2008
I posted some details on the updates I made to the Course Tool in my blog as well:
http://sasha.fastrunningblog.com/blog-A-M-Talked-to-Curt-last-night-and-reali/08-08-2008.html
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adam
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Re: Provo River 1/2 Marathon route
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Reply #22 on:
August 08, 2008, 03:24:59 pm »
That sounds about right.
You'll really fly down the first four miles. The next will still be downhill but may be a little bumpy. Once you leave the canyon your momentum should be way up- then the game is trying to hold on to it the gradual down/flat last three miles.
I would do my best to run hard enough effort through the first ten to still have the mind ready to attack the last three miles (which with the turns and such will probably be a time sucker).
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Adam R Wende
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Re: Provo River 1/2 Marathon route
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Reply #23 on:
August 08, 2008, 03:49:43 pm »
Sasha, Thank you for saving Tom and I from falling into a downward spiral of increasingly pointless posts.
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Tom
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Posts: 150
Re: Provo River 1/2 Marathon route
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Reply #24 on:
August 08, 2008, 04:00:31 pm »
Yes Sasha thanks a bunch!
Although I'm still a bit baffled by the disparity in some of the elevation readings between all the maps/data floating around.
Looking forward to a jolly good time!
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