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I wish I could help, and please don't hate me for replying. I can't answer your question, I'm just glad to see someone using the forum. This year feels disconnected. I used to enjoy seeing your progression, PM me if you want to dialogue.

I have been a loyal Garmin user for about 16 years, having had about 5 different versions. Earlier this year I purchased a Fenix 6, I have had a so-so opinion of it. I feel the pace lags, the distance is sometimes off for out and back runs, and I have had to force reboot at least three times. Something I have not had to do with other Garmin items. As always Garmin support is being great on working with me on this. I have tried all their settings and it is slightly improved but not what I’d expect for the most expensive of the Garmins I have purchased.

So for those using either the Fenix or 945 do you think I should try another Fenix (e.g. bad unit) or switch to the 945?

So at least with running we can still get out and do what we need to do. Isn't going out on a run an expression of freedom and health?

And for me, too.

If this goes through, it works - at least for me.

Don't know if anybody reads the boards anymore... but does anyone know of a good ortho in the Salt Lake area? I have this lingering posterior tib injury that just isn't healing.

Dear Fast Running Blog Team,

I need your help and am reaching out to friends, family, fellow runners, and anyone else who may have been touched by cancer so we together can raise a minimum of $20,000 for the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society (LLS) in a fundraiser that will culminate in our team of 10 runners completing the April 26, 2020 London Marathon.

My challenge to you is to donate $26.20, or more if appropriate, to this cause and share the story with anyone you know touched by cancer.

A quick summary is below.
A news announcement from my university is here.
My direct fundraiser page is here.
If you prefer Facebook donations you can do so here.
And for those who do not know my FRB history, my blog is here.
With my final Utah race with a great team at the Utah Valley Marathon.

Quick summary:

I joined your ranks back in 2007 shortly after moving to Salt Lake City to complete my postdoctoral training at The University of Utah. During my time in SLC I got to meet a number of you in person. Obviously there has been some turnover in active members in the subsequent nearly 13 years (in fact a couple of you might not have been born)...

Why I am reaching out now, is that in 2014 I was diagnosed with leukemia, shortly after running what was up until that point my slowest marathon.

However, I was quickly cured, in remission for about 5 years. Unfortunately, not everyone has been as lucky and last November (2018) I lost a friend to a different form of leukemia. That is why at that time I switched the focus of my quest to complete the Abbott World Marathon Majors and decided to put it to good use and joined Team in Training. This way I can put my passion for running into efforts to help other with blood cancer.

Please consider donating and/or sharing any of the above links.

God bless and thank you for your time and support.

Kind regards,
Adam

Hey Donald,

I know it´s a very individual thing. My intention was to get some information from other runners about the depth and speed of breathing and how it affects running. As you see, we use very different approaches when it comes to breathing.

If we don´t "see" each other before sunday: Good luck for your marathon! You definitly deserve to run your sub3!

Martin

Martin,
I just decided to look at the forum after a year and saw this. I really like the 3 in - 2 out rhythm for most training. When I start to work harder, like lactate threshold and above, I switch to 2-2. I will sometimes do 2-2 in marathon pace training as well. Try both during a run and do whichever is most comfortable for you. At least, that's what I do.

I've always controlled my training intensities by breathing rhythms. According to german coach Herbert Steffny, my training intensities/ breating rhythms correlate like follows:

4-4 rhythm = jogging, easy runs, moderate runs, even marathon pace runs

3-3 rhythm = shorter tempo runs (threshold-pace), half-marathon races, first third of a 10k-race

2-2 rhythm = interval runs, 5-10k races

Today I once again read Daniels' Running Forumula. About breathing rhythms, he says: "When you're not breathing particularly hard, you might use slower breathing rhythms, such as a 3-3 rhythm, which is often used during easy runs but which becomes stressful at threshold-pace or faster. A 4-4 rhythm can also be used but isn't recommended because the depth of breathing consumes energy and the slowness of this rate often does a poor job of clearing CO2 fast enough from the lungs."

This made me think if I'm doing something wrong. Don't get me wrong: I am able to run the right paces for each intensity. But is it possible to run more effective by just using a faster breathing rhythm? During the last few marathon-pace runs for example, I was able to run that pace by using 4-4 rhythms, but I was more comfortable using 3-3. In the past, I just used 4-4 because I didn't want to turn that run into a threshold-run.

I would also like to know how you are using breathing rhythms for different intensities.

Thanks,
Martin